Koeman: Is the nomadic Dutchman ready to make his mark?
Despite being tipped as a future Barcelona or Arsenal boss, Ronald Koeman has been described as one of the most underrated managers in Europe. As he stands on the brink of replacing Roberto Martinez at Everton, is he finally ready to fulfil that rich promise at the top level?
It's been more than three weeks since the curtain was mercifully brought down on Roberto Martinez's tenure as Everton manager but while there has been plenty of fevered speculation in the media, the Goodison hotseat has remained unfilled as the club has taken stock of another miserable season and carefully assessed their options for the future.
According to increasingly well-placed reports in both the British and Dutch press, the interim period looks to have been a necessarily patient one as Farhad Moshiri and the Board have waited for Ronald Koeman to finish the season with Southampton, hold talks with the south coast club over an extension to his current contract, and take a post-season holiday to the Caribbean. Now he is on the verge of becoming Everton's seventh “permanent” managerial appointment of the Premier League era.
In the immediate aftermath of Martinez's sacking last month, Koeman was immediately installed as the favourite to replace the Catalan following simultaneous reports in almost all of the national newspapers that he was the man that Moshiri had pin-pointed as the man to lead Everton forward.
That's not altogether surprising given that Koeman has been mentioned frequently as a potential successor to Arsene Wenger at Arsenal, the club in which Moshiri held a stake before he bought his 49.9% position in Everton. With suggestions that the club could finally be taking positive steps towards resolving its long-standing stadium issue, perhaps with an enticing waterfront location back on the table, and the likes of Koeman and Unai Emery in the frame for the manager's role, the Iranian-born billionaire appears to be applying the Arsenal blueprint to his new project at Goodison Park.
Indeed, if there is any truth to the speculation that the Gunners' hierarchy had earmarked Koeman as a potential successor to Wenger, Moshiri could be effecting quite the coup if he has tempted the Dutchman to Merseyside by selling him on the ambitious plans he has for Everton.
That Koeman is talked about in those terms — he has been mentioned as a future Barcelona manager as well, despite his challenging spell at Valencia — is testament to his standing in the game, albeit one that is based as much on his potential at the top level as it is on his stellar playing career. The Zaandam-born coach, the son and brother of fellow Netherlands internationals Martin and Erwin Koeman respectively, has already helmed eight clubs in full-time roles since retiring as a player but while he has a significant trophy haul from the Eredivisie, he has yet to taste sustained success in one of Europe's top leagues.
As part of Johan Cruyff's "Dream Team", Koeman became a playing legend at the Nou Camp
A versatile defender as a player who came to embody a powerful combination of sweeper, deep-lying playmaker and goalscorer, Koeman made his name in his native Holland, particularly after moving from Groningen to Ajax in the mid-1980s where he won the Eredivisie title in 1985 before moving on, somewhat controversially, to rivals PSV Eindhoven the following year. That brought him three successive championships between 1987 and 1989 and a European Cup.
It was the recognition he earned there and on the international stage for the Netherlands — he was an important member of the Dutch side that won the European Championships in 1988 — that earned him a career-defining transfer to Barcelona and a reunion with Johan Cruyff. Barça's “Dream Team” of the early 1990s would win the Spanish title four years in succession between 1991 and 1994 and the European Cup in 1992 when Koeman famously scored the only goal in extra time.
A shining example on the field, Koeman's leadership off it was recognised by Cruyff early in his time at the Nou Camp when the manager instructed Ronald to room with a raw 19-year-old Pep Guardiola on away trips. Manchester City's now new manager would recall the influence of one of his early mentors, describing Koeman as “one of the best players to have passed through this club. He was one of the first central defenders who was more than just a defensive player, and he was capable of playing in finals as if they were friendly matches — without nerves. He was great at getting over pressure.”
It was no surprise that Koeman moved into management not long after hanging up his playing boots and undertaking assistant manager roles under Guus Hiddink for the Dutch national team and at Barcelona under Louis van Gaal. He took his first post at Vitesse Arnhem in 1999 and led them to Uefa Cup qualification under difficult conditions before moving on to his old club Ajax in 2001.
There, he steered de Godenzonen to the Dutch title twice in three seasons and helped bring through some of that club's — and indeed Holland's — most recognisable players from the past decade, including Rafael van der Vaart, Wesley Sneijder, Nigel de Jong, and ex-Blue Johnny Heitinga but he resigned in 2005 with Ajax well behind PSV in the race for the title and out of the Uefa Cup.
"Koeman was very nice to work with, could be very easy-going. But you could feel his ambition. That's one of the beautiful things about football, there isn't one law, one truth. Maybe Koeman has the capacity to achieve similar things to Van Gaal, but in a different way."
David Endt, journalist and former Ajax general manager
If Koeman has developed a reputation for being somewhat nomadic, it's largely down to the fact that, due to ambition or circumstance, his managerial history shows he hasn't stayed in one place for longer than three seasons. His three assignments following his departure from the Amsterdam Arena, however, were particularly short-lived.
He spent just one season at Portuguese giants Benfica, leaving after managing them to a third-place finish to take up an offer to manage his former club, PSV. He won the Eredivisie title in his only season in Eindhoven but it was a championship his team almost spurned after a collapse in form in the second half of the season and, facing criticism from the club's owner, he moved on to succeed Quique Sanchez Flores at Valencia in the summer of 2007.
It's his chastening experience in Spain that is one of the chief cautionary examples supporters cite about Koeman in the context of the Everton job, not least because he managed to take a team from near the top of the league to 15th and was sacked just days after winning the Copa del Rey following an awful run of league form. A win percentage of just 18% in La Liga and a poor showing in the Champions League were enough to have him dismissed with the locals declaring him a disaster.
Dressing room strife, a loss of respect by Los Che's players for Koeman's tactics — one player complained that the manager's preferred 4-3-3 formation had the team "running round [like] headless chickens" — and Valencia's general off-the-field chaos (The Guardian's Sid Lowe described the conditions as being akin to walking into a viper's nest, where the “president and shareholders are always at war, creating tension and instability”) left him in an almost impossible position. In retrospect, it feels like a poor fit all around; Koeman's desire to oversee a fertile youth development system couldn't be sated at the Mestalla and the club just wasn't stable enough, particularly for an outsider managing in Spain in his own right for the first time.
Koeman wouldn't work for another year until he took the reins from Van Gaal at AZ Alkmaar in 2008 when the elder manager was appointed as Bayern Munich's head coach. He was gone from AZ Stadion by December that year, however, and would spend another 18 months out of the game before completing the same hat-trick of the three big Dutch clubs as he had as a player when he was hired by Feyenoord as replacement for Mario Been.
With words that will resonate with Evertonians, he described the Rotterdam club as “a real people's club — there's always something going on. But it's a club with good organisation, a talented squad and ambition. The latter is very important: I am a no-nonsense figure and completely suited to the playing style and vision of the club.”
Initially hired on a one-year contract, he ended up staying for three seasons, turning Feyenoord's fortunes around in impressive fashion by shoring up their defence, getting them back to playing attractive football and leading them back to the Champions League in his first season. He wasn't able to bring the title back to the club, losing out each time to Frank de Boer's Ajax, but he announced his intention to leave in 2014 to pursue his next challenge.
That was when he answered Southampton's call following the departure of Mauricio Pochettino who had been lured away by Tottenham Hotspur and the bright lights of the Capital that summer. However, he would find himself in charge of a squad gutted of some of it's best players — most of their stars left for big fees for Liverpool, Manchester United and Arsenal — and widely tipped for a relegation battle in 2014-15.
Defying those pessimistic predictions for the Saints that season, Koeman's impact was as impressive as it was rapid. Quickly helping to bring in talented or hard-working players like Graziano Pellà¨, Dušan Tadić, Shane Long and Ryan Bertrand to plug the gaps and implementing a fresh 4-3-3 line-up involving two wide players and Pellਠas the target man, he had Southampton up among the early pace-setters in the Premier League within weeks of his appointment.
It was a pace they were ultimately unable to sustain but Koeman still steered them to seventh place and Europa League qualification in his first season and, despite seeing midfield linchpin Morgan Schneiderlin and fullback Nathaniel Cyne sold last summer, has just gone one better by finishing sixth, just three points off the top four. In that time, he has taken his teams to places like the Emirates, Anfield, Old Trafford and won with the kind of fearlessness that Martinez could only inspire at Goodison for a brief spell in 2013-14, while recording handsome home wins over the biggest teams in the Premier League.
Ronald's move to St Mary's stadium has proved to be a very good mutual fit for many of the reasons why he struggled to make his mark in those two brief spells on the Iberian Peninsula but was so successful in Holland: the northern/western European playing style, perhaps being one; a productive youth academy being another. Saints are a club renowned for a youth system that had produced gems like Gareth Bale and Theo Walcott and while the likes of more recent graduates like James Ward-Prowse aren't yet pulling up trees at the top level, it continues to be held up as a model for other “second-tier” clubs to follow.
Ironically, it is a dip in the quality of the current produce from Southampton's farm of youngsters that is believed to be one of the factors behind Koeman hedging over signing a new contract with the south coast club. Indeed, he wrote a column for De Telegraaf this year that pondered whether he had taken the club as far as he could without significantly greater power in the transfer market. With the Saints on a sell-to-buy footing that has seen come of their most bankable stars sold over the past two summer transfer windows, they have had to rely on their academy and targeted signings but Koeman expressed his disappointment earlier this year at the level of talent waiting in the wings at the club.
Finch Farm, on the other hand, could prove to be a gold mine for the next Everton manager if David Unsworth's confident recent claims are an indication. The likes of Tom Davies, Kieran Dowell, Callum Connolly and Jonjoe Kenny have all demonstrated their readiness for first-team action and there is yet more up-and-coming talent from the Under-21s and Under-18 setups that haven't yet been given their opportunity to shine at senior level.
Koeman might well be handed a significant budget by Moshiri if he does indeed become the next Everton boss but there will be plenty for him to get his teeth into in terms of youth players if that is where he likes to put much of his energy. And yet he would arrive at Finch Farm facing a significant rebuilding job on a first-team squad that could see departures in the double figures this close season.
A number of ageing or fringe players like Darron Gibson, Leon Osman, Steven Pienaar and Tony Hibbert are reaching the end of their contracts and are unlikely to be retained while others, like Aiden McGeady, will almost certainly be moved on. Then there's the issue of Romelu Lukaku, who appears to have made up his mind to go regardless of who replaces Martinez, and John Stones who could yet be lured away by one of the so-called big four from Manchester or London.
Much of the scouting and player acquisition at Southampton has been credited to Les Reed, the Saints' director of development, his scouting network and recruitment team and it's the stability and success of that setup that makes some observers of that club confident that it will be able to weather any storm created by Koeman's potential departure.
Koeman will undoubtedly have played a significant role on that team, however, as the purchase of the likes of Virgil van Dijk (a Dutch international) and Tadić and Jordie Clasie (acquired from the Eredivisie) might suggest. And while Southampton have thrived under that model, Koeman has worked in the traditional sole manager role before and would be quite capable of building his own squad without a technical director in place if need be.
"He was an amazing player who played for big clubs, so he's got this experience inside him. He can read the game and can identify a good player. But what I like about him is that he's a calm person and good with human beings."
Morgan Schneiderlin
If reports that Moshiri is planning on restructuring the management team at Everton by bringing in a director of football for the first time are true, though, that could end up being a moot point. That hire would replace the outgoing Kevin Reeves, credited with leading the scouting of signings like Ramiro Funes Mori, Brendan Galloway, Mason Holgate and Matty Foulds, and become a more permanent appointment that would oversee the academy, recruitment and overall strategy and be more impervious to the comings and goings of the head coach beneath him.
With all of Koeman's experience and know-how, he would be an integral part of all of those processes, however, even if his attention would be more on the day-to-day coaching, tactics and team selection. Martinez's players looked like strangers at times this past season so the introduction of the Dutch style of coaching — four-a-side drills based on rehearsal and repetition, designed to increase the number of touches players receive, moving to eight-a-side and finally full 11-a-side games once the passing interactions have become instinctive — could only be a good thing to see focused on at Finch Farm.
If there's a balance the club now needs between the defensive pragmatism of the David Moyes era and the more reckless, attack-minded Martinez experiment, the younger Koeman brother would seem to be the closest fit. While an Emery or Pellegrini would bring Latin or southern Continental flair to Goodison Park, Koeman's more rounded approach is probably better suited to the Premier League and, as such, he represents a safe, reliable option who could almost guarantee progress on the last two seasons. And, again, he won't ever have had the kind of transfer war chest as he stands to receive under Moshiri.
Certainly, the kind of football on which he was raised and which was implemented by the successful teams in which he played — his pedigree is similar to that of another candidate for the Blues' job, Frank de Boer — would be welcome at Everton. Founded on solid defending, Koeman likes his teams to pass and move the ball quickly and attack at pace and, as Pellà¨'s success shows, he isn't averse to using a typical English- or Dutch-style, muscular centre-forward as the focal point of his attack. It looks increasingly like he won't get to work with Lukaku if he takes the job — you'd think he would be the ideal mentor for Stones, though — but if he is able to draft in exciting players of Sadio Mané's ilk, then there will be less reliance one striker at Goodison going forward, which can only be a good thing.
It's not all positives, of course — no managerial candidate is without his flaws.
His management style is not suited to all tastes — Tadić has reportedly become disillusioned with what can be an authoritarian and demanding approach — but after the collective lack of discipline and focus exhibited by the Blues' players over the final quarter of the 2015-16 season as Martinez's rein finally collapsed, a man who can restore order and inspire confidence is exactly what is needed. He may be “a calm person and good with human beings,” as Schneiderlin once described him but he can be no-nonsense as well.
Meanwhile, when you consider how well his team has done in the league, his record in cup competition since he arrived in England leaves a lot to be desired. He was unable to take Southampton past the fourth round of the FA Cup, losing to Crystal Palace in both seasons, while the Saints were eliminated at the fifth round stage of the League Cup in 2014 and 2015, with this season's 6-1 home defeat to Liverpool particularly alarming. In Europe, they couldn't get past the final playoff round, falling to Midtjylland.
Ultimately, however, while he has moved around a lot as a manager, it is Koeman's vast experience gleaned from coaching in three different leagues and having played at the very top of his profession that Everton would be acquiring. When they look at the final Premier League table from this past season and as they look ahead to the Europa League, Saints fans might not agree but Everton could represent a massive opportunity for him to finally settle into a longer-term assignment, particularly as he will be getting in on the ground floor of Moshiri's ambitious project.
That combination of Moshiri's resources and Koeman's steady hand and own drive has the potential to be the catalyst that Everton Football Club has been crying out for through the frustrations of 21 trophy-less years. A proven winner as a player and manager with a demonstrable record of progress made in England, the man from Zaandam could be just the man to help return the Blues to contention among the Premier League's elite.
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2 Posted 04/06/2016 at 03:03:16
I am guessing that you thought there wasn't much chance in us getting him by the fact it has taken until now for an in-depth article on "Big Ron"?
If he can have the same impact with us as he did at Feyenoord then he'll do for me...
"turning Feyenoord's fortunes around in impressive fashion by shoring up their defence, getting them back to playing attractive football and leading them back to the Champions League in his first season".
I liked that bit. It sounded very good!
3 Posted 04/06/2016 at 04:20:51
As long as the overall management policy creates a clear control of the team by the coach, that the scouting system is allied to the teams existing needs and future growth model, that the director of football is focussed on the future direction of the club in general overview areas and the youth system as currently structured remains then we should be in good shape.
All the names in the frame, Whether Koeman, Emery, De Boer, Monchi etc., work for me and I think that Moshiri is one extremely smart gentlemen who we are lucky to have at the Club. Well done BK in that regard at least.
Underlying all the above is the importance in building for results long term and the ground move. The funding structure for the the new stadium is a massive parallel project in itself. One where the balance of location, design, program, cost investment model, social context, all need to be carefully balanced.
Times are looking good!
4 Posted 04/06/2016 at 04:36:36
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8 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:18:14
9 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:22:49
10 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:36:04
The Dutch have this reputation for being laid back and friendly, which is true, but if things aren't to their liking, they're very quick to tell it like it is.
I think we could do with some straight talking from the dugout right now!
11 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:41:23
At last - after years of stagnation it looks like Everton are going in the right direction. I would be very happy with Koeman as I would have been with FDB (who may well end up at Southampton). I have been impressed by the way Southampton have coped with the losses of some very good players.
I have faith in Fahad Moshiri, he seems to know what he is doing, this appointment is no Moyes or Martinez, this is serious.....so let the Good Times Roll!
12 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:45:46
When Koeman dropped Pelle, who was in scoring form, because of lack of effort / poor attitude in training.
That's how it should be!
13 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:50:12
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15 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:27:34
I'll be rereading that a number of times, well done and thanks.
16 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:55:16
But I'm certain we've appointed the right man. It looked like it was going to be him or De Boer all along.
So hopefully he ll be in it for the long haul and get us back playing the kind of football we deserve while being hard to beat. Something that's been sadly lacking for two seasons under the previous possession-ased dross we've had to endure. Onwards and upwards now!
17 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:06:29
He was a great defender but also a cynical cheat. I like that type of pragmatism and it has been sadly lacking in Everton where as a professional footballer you are paid to win, not to be a doormat. There's only Cahill I can think of in recent years who had a similar mentality.
Anyway it's a done deal, welcome to Everton, his first job will be convincing Lukaku to keep his gob shut and allow the club to extract the highest price for the useless lazy knob.
18 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:15:46
19 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:24:01
Allied to that, there is no doubting his playing career was that of the highest calibre and he seems well thought of within the game. If indeed he becomes our new manager I for one will back him unconditionally.
UP THE TOFFEES.
20 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:26:13
Slightly related: here is a picture of a young Koeman wiping his ass with the shirt of his opponent, German Oliver Thon, after the Dutch defeated them in the semis of Euro 88.
21 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:45:16
Koeman is a big forward in manager to what we have installed before. He has many attributes that will enamour himself to the fans. There are a couple of things, time at Valencia and PSV missing out on the title to Ajax, that may be considered black marks but the positives outweigh the negatives.
Plus if it is true and it was always Moshiri's main target that he may get what a statement of intent.
22 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:53:55
I don't think you can really claim Koeman has no ambition when most of his recent statements to the press regarding his Southampton future have contained explicit references to that very same thing:
"It is all about ambition. I hate to stay in a situation where there is no ambition."
23 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:03:11
Sorry, I just don't see him as an improvement and am still hoping it doesn't happen.
24 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:07:43
I've been in a foul mood this morning, giving the wife the full Wendy Torrance treatment for disturbing me when I'm trying to write (well, not full treatment. I draw the line at a fireman's axe being brought into play), and generally just stomping around in a right sulk.
Your arse wiping intro has cheered me up no end.
26 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:21:55
What strikes me is that this is very good fit at this time for both parties. Everton need someone to turn around their fortunes and rebuild the senior squad, whilst having an excellent youth set-up and plans for growth and a new ground. Koeman has experience in turnarounds, but wants a club where that can be balanced by greater ambition and bigger budgets.
In this sense, the appointment may be transitional for both. Koeman can prove himself with that bigger budget by getting us into the top 6 (and hopefully a cup win), making himself sellable to Arsenal or Barcelona.
Everton can demonstrate that they are a plausible vehicle for a really top manager to take us even further. This may strike some NSNO fetishists as too modest an ambition, but I think this is where we are and I'd be happy with that.
27 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:53:47
28 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:10:08
Now that Everton are 'going Dutch', do we only have to pay half his wages?
29 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:17:44
6th isn't really mid table security, is it? 3 points off a Champions League place?
And If you're going to use the "this seaon's Premier League was shite" argument, we finished 11th in a shite season.
Let's give him a chance and slag him when/if he fails... now there's a new concept for some contributors to ToffeeWeb.
30 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:18:59
Who'd have gone wild over the appointment of Ranieri before last season?
31 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:31:54
32 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:40:42
The London sports journalists, Sam Wallace at the Telegraph in particular, will have to come to terms with fact that Mr Moshiri has turned us into a major force again after years of stagnation.
I'm confident Ronald Koeman will prove to be an excellent choice.
33 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:25:03
Giant step up from the last guy.
34 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:08:55
We missed out on Bilic; Klopp would have been good; Mourinho was never going to happen and we could have ended up with Rafa. For what managers are out there, he totally fits the bill and his mouthwatering salary is not hugely more than Moyes was on so no issue there.
If he's half the manager he was as a player, then I'll be happy. Saw him play in the flesh once for Barca. He was awesome. Bottom line is whoever you get is a risk and whilst for some it may not seem an overly adventurous appointment the risk shouldn't be great. And he clearly has pedigree.
35 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:19:27
However, there is always a dark side to the good news; now I'm already worrying about how I am going to pay for my season ticket when we move to our new stadium on the banks of the Mersey. I'll get the money somehow!!!!!!
36 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:57:25
The alarm bells rang when I read about his time at Valencia, sounds mighty like the criticism Roberto received on here and elsewhere last season! He's also flitted about somewhat, but there can be various reasons for that.
At the risk of boring everyone, I repeat any manager we appoint will have a very much greater chance of being a success if top quality players are bought, not just good players and hoping to get lucky.
37 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:03:07
I'm not totally thrilled by the appointment, but let's face it anything is better than Martinez...those moaning about him, fancy Bobby back??
I feel much more enthusiastic and excited now; good youth, decent new manager, new owner, etc. Could be good times.
Those who are moaning about his appointment, who do you expect a club who have just finished 11th, not won a trophy in over 20 years and have a tired old ground to get as manager? Just intetested. And if the better managers said 'no', who do you want, Moyes? Howe?
38 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:03:24
Erik,
Thanks for that picture! A pity it wasn't Klopp's shirt. Unfortunately, he was only pub-player standard.
39 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:29:32
However, the flawed Ranieri has proved very recently that if the chemistry between manager and players is right, there is no barrier to what can be achieved.
Unlike his immediate predecessors, Koeman had a stellar playing career so he has 'done it' as well as supervised others in pursuit of honours.That must be a plus point for Moshiri's preferred candidate.
Forever the cynic, I would urge fellow TWers not to judge the new man on the basis of his first half season as with fans' early love affair with Martinez but the portents are encouraging this time and, at the very least, there is a feeling that Moshiri's due diligence has gone a little deeper that a quick call to Peg Leg Dave !
He'll do for me!
40 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:42:39
Next season-top six.
Following season-top four.
41 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:44:19
Brian,
6th isn't top of the table and isn't bottom either so by default isn't it middle of the table? We could divide the table into four zones so 6th is now top of the upper-middle table or top of the lower- upper table (take your pick). No matter what you call it, it isn't bottom three, so I am happy.
42 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:50:13
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44 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:11:45
1. There are very credible reports, that Arsenal were beginning to line him up as the replacement for Wenger ... you can't get a much higher recommendation than that!
2. It seems that Moshiri only ever really had one target; Koeman, and he's gone out and got him ..... now THAT is impressive!
45 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:18:14
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48 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:33:33
'It seems Kenwright only ever really had one target, Martinez. And he went out and got him. Then, THAT wasn't so impressive !
The proof of the pudding is ALWAYS in the eating .
49 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:41:28
Brian williams note the the OFM finished 5th his first season which was one place off the champions league and the manager before that actually finished 4th. I repeat again - there is nothing Koeman has achieved as a manager that gets me excited for the future. He's quite possibly a dutch version of David Moyes who, unlike ginger, had a great playing career.
Note: I'm not slagging him off - just reminding everyone that actual managerial achievement is hardly stellar. If 6th place finishes are a great yardstick then Moyes was already good at it. I just think this is two steps back in our so called ambition.
50 Posted 04/06/2016 at 18:36:56
Exciting times though and he is I feel as likely to do well for us as any other candidate. He must be given time though to rebuild a side that didn't achieve its potential, which has a lot of players past their best and yet a crop of youngsters coming through who could be good enough to make us the best. 3 years at least, not to win silverware but to see the type of improvement that will have us competing at the very highest level.
I hope that Moshiri will find a good role for Unsy with a view to him being the next head coach.
51 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:02:38
This to me feels like the formation of the Premier league in 1992 with the newest and biggest TV deal in it nascant days. We thought we were big, had the trophies in the bank to say we were big and were left at the gate staring at the other clubs backsides We never acted big, suffered, trying to play catch up for 25 years. We are 'caught up and have never had a better chance to act like we are a player in the big league.
Should Koeman fail I would say he gets a second season, but only under clear targets, then I'm afraid move on. Spurs acted this way for years, and I like many scoffed at Levy for his short termist attitude. I idled away on my Everton morals feeling well smug, but my team were anything but. Ah'em Look at Spurs now?
I'm excited by the change in modus operandi more than the new man himself, because it if all goes tits up we won't hestitate to move on and that to this Evertonian is progress
NSNO! UTFT!
52 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:08:10
Keep Unsy with the kids. :0)
This preferred 4-3-3 seems a bit mythical to me. From all I've read Koeman will play a formation that suits his players and the situation.
That flexibility is fast becoming my number one factor on whether or not a man can actually coach.
Managers trotting our their 4-2-3-1s or their 4-1-4-1s every single stinking game - no matter what the landscape is - is brainless. And whereas that brainless trotting hasn't been 100% of the time the last decade, it sure as hell has been the majority of the time.
Coaches who adapt their philosophy and formation to the players they have and subsequently the opposition are "smart" coaches. Coaches who have their philosophy and formation and place the players inside of that system no matter if it's a good fit or not? No. And thank you very much Mr. Moyes and Mr. Martinez for teaching me that - as well as the hundreds of TW contributors screaming at me as I defended Roberto past his due date.
I'm looking forward to watching this man handle the team and tactics.
The future is bright.
53 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:20:16
Kendall
Erm Katterick
Koeman......
54 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:28:15
But in the mire of ignorance...this guy would be great to me and right for a mid table team with new money, plans and aspirations. This will not all happen by Xmas.
55 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:31:12
56 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:46:46
I have never really liked orange ..... From the packet. It just is too sweet and does not really have a surprise element. A bit like Shane long.
57 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:13:35
58 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:16:01
Having read this article and following a lot of what Erik Dols has been saying on the Dutch contingent over recent weeks, I feel a lot more comfortable with this potential appointment. I feel properly informed and although I agree that any and every appointment is a gamble I get the feeling this is one gamble we are taking with a proverbial ace up our sleeve.
59 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:31:24
A lot of people on here said they would have any of 3 FdB, Emery or Koeman. So let's be happy that Moshiri wanted one of the 3, and has hopefully got him.
The exciting part for me is what will follow. Will it be Monchi, then the stadium announcement. And then the biggest part of the jigsaw. What calibre of player will be added to the squad and how many.
60 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:48:40
61 Posted 05/06/2016 at 00:40:31
62 Posted 05/06/2016 at 05:00:52
Eric (#55); I think the four divisions were top and bottom of the top half and top and bottom of the bottom half. And that's about the top and bottom of it!
63 Posted 05/06/2016 at 08:13:01
He'll also do for me.
64 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:03:18
Let's all hold our judgement on the new man until he is well into his second season - always assuming he's not a Mike Walker, of course.
As if !
65 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:16:18
Osman
Hibbert
Mcgeady
Gibson
I expect lukaku to be sold... he had his best game of last season against Southampton but I don't think for one second koeman will tolerate his attitude. If as lyndon says - koeman likes a hardworking target man then lukaku is not that man. I think koeman will go for vincent jansenn who I think fits the bill perfectly.
I expect stones to be excited about working with one of the most expressive ball playing centre halves of the modern game. I recall him at Goodison in the ECWC in 1995 and he just pinged balls all over the place. Was a joy to watch.
66 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:22:46
Koeman's agent now saying his earlier remarks were exaggerated and NO agreement on compensation is yet in place.
Could we all have got carried away ?
67 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:48:26
68 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:50:50
The agent never said that there had been agreement between the clubs.
The quote from the agent was "We have reached agreement with with EFC and now itis between the clubs) I would see that as to a) if the club would hold him to his contract or b) could agree things like compensation and who else Koeman might want to take with him to EFC.
This feller on squaker Rah Mahil has just took part of a quote from the agent re the clubs discussions and a bit of lazy journalism followed.
I don't see Moshiri messing things up. It will always be up to Southampton to ok the deal or hang on to him until his contract runs out. I can't see that happening but you never know
69 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:14:25
But I bet Saints, home or away, are our first game next season!!
70 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:31:25
71 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:50:49
72 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:51:41
73 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:17:51
My own take on the situation as it stands at the moment is that there will be some people at the Emirates who are probably fuming because Koeman was their intended target to succeed Wenger, they also have better links with Southampton than do Everton and if they are really intent on keeping Koeman as their number one target, they will do all in their power to scupper any deal with Everton.
I won't be at all surprised if Koeman does not take up the vacant managers position at Goodison in the coming weeks - it would be a blow to the Everton hierarchy, but they'll just have to move on to their next suitable target and I really hope that if it comes to pass that Koeman doesn't arrive, that it is somebody of equal standing to Koeman who takes up the reigns at Goodison Park.
74 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:28:32
You should be an FBI profiler lol.
It was the Moyes discipline which was sorely lacking during the Martinez reign. Looking forward to some quiet Dutch Authority.
75 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:40:43
We will remember the day Mr Moshiri came to the club as the day it all changed.
76 Posted 06/06/2016 at 09:18:17
77 Posted 06/06/2016 at 09:50:34
I am not too bothered the amount of clubs he has, I think he will have learned something for every experience and as a result getting a more well-rounded manager. He has a great emphasis on youth, and I am sure he will be looking to combine that with the resources he has now. Looking forward to the summer ahead, item number 1 is a goalie.
78 Posted 07/06/2016 at 04:10:58
79 Posted 09/06/2016 at 19:06:56
Koeman never wanted to come here in the first place. Moreover it continues to drag out. Scrap it and go for a manager with proven experience at both local level and, more importantly in terms of Everton's aspirations, European level,. i.e. Pellegrini.
80 Posted 12/06/2016 at 14:01:41
81 Posted 12/06/2016 at 22:23:11
82 Posted 14/06/2016 at 09:51:44
83 Posted 14/06/2016 at 10:03:02
84 Posted 14/06/2016 at 10:15:23
85 Posted 14/06/2016 at 10:19:59
88 Posted 14/06/2016 at 10:29:02
Aww well, Koeman was who Moshiri wanted and I trust the man to do right by us.
Welcome Ronald. Good luck you have my full support.
89 Posted 14/06/2016 at 12:02:36
90 Posted 14/06/2016 at 14:58:23
I'm not interested if youngsters don't come through or the style of play, winning trophies is ALL that matters.
91 Posted 14/06/2016 at 00:16:16
Well done! Onward and upward. COYB
92 Posted 15/06/2016 at 04:20:28
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