Mid-table stalemate at Vicarage Road

Hardly an inspiring warm-up for a possible reunion in the FA Cup Final. For long periods, it was an untidy and uninspiring tussle between two teams drifting in mid-table.

Lyndon Lloyd 10/04/2016 37comments  |  Jump to last
Watford 1 - 1 Everton

It’s safe to say that few Evertonians, even weighing their most pessimistic pre-season fears, could have imagined that come mid-April, Everton FC would sitting in 14th place in the Premier League. That is 14th in the most wide-open Premier League in years with the most talented group of players Goodison Park has witnessed in even longer.

And yet Blues fans have been whisked back to the darker days of Walter Smith-induced mid-table mediocrity by a run of form that has seen the Toffees beat just one team outside of the bottom three since the end of September. Couched in those terms it’s a stunning indictment of the way Roberto Martinez’s third season in charge has unfolded and the mentality that exists in his squad.

Yet again Everton not only let a precious lead away from home slip, they did so within a minute of scoring themselves in first-half stoppage time through poor defending at a set-piece. What’s worse is that they’d had a dress rehearsal for the routine that Watford employed just a couple of minutes earlier and been let off when Jose Holebas out-jumped Seamus Coleman but put a free header wide of goal.

After two awful displays and the pressure starting to mount, Martinez needed a big performance and a win today against a team on a four-match losing streak; what he got instead was a middling display lacking in guile and a result, at least, that does very little to advance the argument either way surrounding his tenure at the moment.

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The manager and his players will have been glad to have put on a better showing than they did at Old Trafford last week — not, in itself, all that hard, really — avoided defeat and could probably count themselves as unfortunate not to have won the game. That is faint praise, however, because the performance was still desperately short on quality, particularly in the final third where once the Blues were reliably prolific but now are struggling badly to create enough clear-cut chances to win games. Despite the draw, there was plenty for those who unfurled a prominent “Martinez Out” banner in the away before the game to be concerned about with regard to the manager’s oversight of this team.

Romelu Lukaku was simultaneously too isolated (again) and starved of regular service on the one hand and frustratingly ineffective with the ball at his feet on the other. His first touch, control and hold-up play, so much improved this season, was generally off today but in the areas where it counts he was consistently let down by abysmal deliveries from the flanks.

Nevertheless, the Belgian came close to registering an assist when he back-heeled into the path of Aaron Lennon with 20 minutes to go and Heurelho Gomes palmed the winger’s shot behind for a corner, was foiled well by Craig Cathcart as he tried to flick home a low cross by Gerard Deulofeu, but then spurned the chance to potentially win it four minutes from the end when he fired a rebound off the crossbar.

Had that snapshot gone in, it would have rewarded the Blues for a late push that owed much to the energy shown by substitute Kevin Mirallas but, by the same token, not many neutrals would have begrudged the Hornets all three points had Ben Watson’s deflected shot won it at the death. That it didn’t was down to a second brilliant save from Joel Robles whom Martinez owes a debt for preventing what would have been a hugely damaging fourth straight defeat.

Gareth Barry returned to the starting XI following suspension in place of Tom Cleverley as the only change to the side that lost to Manchester United last Sunday and, in terms of general organisation in front of the back four, it was a positive development. He didn’t help himself with some very poor distribution at times but the security he offers gives Coleman and Leighton Baines greater confidence to get forward down the flanks.

Not that that was a great advantage for the most part. Coleman was the more purposeful and energetic of the two bombing forward but, despite getting into some good positions, he barely put in a decent cross all game. His partner down the right, Deulofeu, was better, at least in the first half, and appeared to be Everton’s biggest threat, particularly as Lennon was largely anonymous for the first 45 minutes.

It was Deulofeu’s curling effort after 18 minutes that forced the first save from Gomes and his determination to make something happen with runs at the fullbacks that threatened to open things up. Unfortunately, the Spaniard’s end product was sorely lacking and he increasingly lost his way and with the home side having really only threatened Robles once with a rasping shot by Jurado that Robles palmed behind superbly at full stretch, it wasn’t surprising when the first period looked to be heading for a goalless conclusion when the referee’s assistant signalled one minute of added time.

A gift by Watford’s defence at one end, however, and poor set-piece organisation by Everton at the other saw the two sides trade goals in the space of 70-odd seconds.

First, James McCarthy robbed Miguel Britos as he dallied just outside his box and drilled a low shot past the stranded Gomes to give the Blues the lead in the first minute of stoppage time. Then, after Etienne Capoue’s shot had whistled just wide after taking the merest of deflections off a defender, Holebas easily rose above Coleman at the back post to head in almost on the goal line.

For those looking for more spirit and fight from Everton, the better news was that the Blues were more effective going forward after half time than they had been in the first half, even if the execution was still largely disappointing. Lennon became a more integral part of the attack and it was his shot after an excellent interception by Coleman and good work by Deulofeu that deflected wide seven minutes after the interval.

Three minutes later, Lennon skipped inside and drove another skidding low effort that Gomes got a hand to and almost presented to the lurking Lukaku before he batted it away to safety. Five minutes after that, Deulofeu raced into the clear down the right channel and was bearing threateningly down on goal when he made a mess of the final ball looking for Lennon in the centre. It summed up the Spanish winger’s rustiness and inability to translate exuberance into end product.

Mirallas’s introduction added a bit more composure in Deulofeu’s stead but while his crossing wasn’t that much better, it was his direct free kick that almost served up the winner for his compatriot Lukaku. After he’d been chopped down Watson just outside the box, the former Belgian struck the low free kick through the wall that fell to Lukaku after Gomes had stopped it one-handed but the resulting shot was too high and bounced off the woodwork.

In the final reckoning, this was hardly an inspiring warm-up for a possible reunion in the FA Cup Final. For long periods, it was an untidy and uninspiring tussle between two teams drifting in mid-table. Definitely not the position Evertonians thought their team would be in at the “business end” of the season.

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Chris James
1 Posted 10/04/2016 at 07:20:48
We're 14th and still can't defend a lead. This is Martinez's third season and we're demonstrably going backwards in virtually every department.

Not sure what else needs to be said. We need a new manager.

Anto Byrne
2 Posted 10/04/2016 at 07:52:36
We continue to play Coleman and Baines when we have better options, eg, Galloway and Oviedo. Jagielka has been a great servant but can't organise a piss-up in a brewery when it comes to being the captain.

We have two defensive midfielders all too often opting for the easy ball, square or backwards, thus allowing teams to jog back and take up defensive positions while we pass it around nowhere near the danger area of the opposition's goal.

Barkley's job is to pick the ball up and drive it forward but he gets no support and then goes out wide where two defenders wait for our winger whose final ball is woeful. I would sooner they lumped it forward Wimbledon style and push some tall timber into the box, eg, Stones and Funes Mori... even Jags. We never see it as it is so one-dimensional – if we can't get it to Lukaku, who is held up with three defenders, we have no other game plan.

This really is a piss-poor team with some very good players. How about some average players to make a very good team aka Leicester City? 11 Tim Cahills or Mike Lyons.

Under Moyes, we had an average team of players who worked hard and got results. Had Moyes had a bit more bottle, he could have really achieved but he never went for it. 1-0 up in the FA Cup final and in the semi-final over the RedShite but blew it trying to defend a 1-goal lead.

I'm sick of the hard-done-by unlucky shite. Neither Moyes or Martinez is good enough for Everton. It looks like this season is a write-off and they are holding on for a cup win but it's the Premier League where the money is and the riches of Champions League football.

Next season, we have Leicester City and maybe they will have the ambition to go to the next level. At Everton, 14th is acceptable.

Trevor Peers
3 Posted 10/04/2016 at 08:07:48
Martinez is a disaster of a manager, he has ruined a decent top 6 team handed to him by Moyes. If Kenwright can't see that and sack him after the cup run ends,or before, he definitely should NOT be the man to appoint a new manager.

He simply cannot be trusted to get it right, Roberto has so many failings as a manager, why has he been allowed to carry on for so long?

Chris Leyland
4 Posted 10/04/2016 at 08:16:37
6 wins in the league since the end of September. 5 of those wins were against the current bottom 3. If that stat alone isn't enough to see him replaced then I despair.
Gary Woodward
6 Posted 10/04/2016 at 09:32:12
Weekends have become awful. It's very hard for me to know what to add about this performance and the rest of the shite served up this season, it's all been said over and over again.

He lost the fans along time ago, the players are disinterested. I really do think things are happening behind the scenes regarding Martinez's tenure.
Alan Bodell
7 Posted 10/04/2016 at 09:38:05
I firmly believe if David Moyes had this current squad we would be at least a top 4 team, more likely top 2.
Many Blues will disagree but I'd have him back in a New York minute.
Dennis Ng
8 Posted 10/04/2016 at 09:56:48
Alan, top 2? I don't think OFM can handle a Mahrez or Vardy even if he has them. Top 4 is a stretch but more dream-able.

The silence (over the results) between Kenwright and Moshiri is what is killing us. That and Kenwright's "What a manager" comment is what is making the pessimists come out in droves.

Neil Lawson
9 Posted 10/04/2016 at 10:08:40
The consistency and depth of dissatisfaction that is being voiced on this site is overwhelming. What can ToffeeWeb do to get this across to Bill Kenwright and to Mr Moshiri? Surely they can not be oblivious to the long standing and deepening mood of gloom and despondency.

It won't happen, but oh for the courage to kick him out now and to install someone just to refresh and to organise until the end of the season... and to give us a chance at Wembley. I truly believe that the players would react and respond positively and we may just have two performances to remember for the rest of our lives.

And then I woke up!!!

James Kirrane
10 Posted 10/04/2016 at 10:58:21
It is difficult to credit the manager's thinking when it comes to team selection. Lennon has been one of our better players of late operating on the right flank, yet he was switched to the left flank to accommodate Deulofeu and was completely ineffective on the left, where he looked lost.

A much more sensible selection would have been to have picked Lennon on the right, his best position and Mirallas on the left where he operates regularly and is usually pretty effective. Square pegs and round holes. I despair.

Trevor Lynes
11 Posted 10/04/2016 at 12:00:37
Why is all the blame put at the manager's feet when it is patently obvious to me that too many stupid individual errors have been the main cause of our poor season.

I have watched Barkley closely and I reckon he is becoming a luxury player and only shows very rare flashes of his supposed potential. He has dried up as a scorer and obviously lacks stamina for a proper midfield role.

Lukaku cannot do everything alone and he must have support from one of the players at least. He plays better with Kone as now Deulofeu has stopped being creative. Personally I would rest Barkley and play a strike partner up front. Barkley is contributing very little and hardly ever closes down or chases back once he loses possession.

Apart from Stones's error we defended well and it was the attacking midfield who let the side down IMO.

Colin Williams
12 Posted 10/04/2016 at 14:13:52
Stones error! What, passing back to the keeper. That's not a error! Shit defending from the corner... Now, that's an error!

How the feck can a back pass that happens – a couple of phases before a goal be the fault for the goal. Just like saying a misplaced pass in mid-field lead to a goal being scored, rubbish! Just look at the piss-poor defending for the corner, shocking.

Mark Andersson
13 Posted 10/04/2016 at 16:31:13
James (10) why despair, why put your self in a position to feel like that. You know Martinez is a loon ball manager and yet you follow blindly hoping it will come good, but deep down you know it's not going to.

We should all be certified for following this football club, while Bill calls the shots and Martinez is manager.

Man Utd or West Ham? It won't make any difference. We do not have the mental or physical strength to beat either of these teams. Our season was over before it began for the last two seasons.

Gareth Williams
14 Posted 10/04/2016 at 16:33:02
Bobby will have to go in the summer or next season he could take us down the way things have gone this term.
Eric Paul
15 Posted 10/04/2016 at 17:06:10
Passing back to the keeper and putting him under pressure to kick the ball out for a corner (which is as good as a penalty against us) is a fucking error, and not learning from your errors (Stones) is unforgivable. I don't blame Stones as he is a young lad with no-one coaching him in the art of defending.
Jason Broome
16 Posted 10/04/2016 at 18:12:31
Everton only have one problem. Martinez. In every other aspect we are going forward.

The only thing that the board will understand are banners, boos and boycotts. Empty stadiums make headlines and negative headlines lead to reaction. Goodison Park needs a mass exodus at half-time!

I believe that Martinez will go if we lose the semi-final and I also believe that Mourinho is a realistic possibility.

Alan Bodell
17 Posted 10/04/2016 at 18:50:07
Jason, I hate the Portuguese twat but if your realistic possibility became a reality I think I could change.

Getting rid of Martinez is a definite priority first and I don't think Blue Bill has it in him so let's hope Moshiri gets his sword out.
Bill Gall
18 Posted 10/04/2016 at 18:55:15
Just watch Spurs' 3rd goal to see how building up from the back is done, from the keeper to the center half and 4 passes later it was in the back of the net – but in the opposition's goal and not our own.
Ian Brandes
19 Posted 10/04/2016 at 19:11:59
Moshiri and Mourinho are acquaintances, apparently, and are said to admire each other's abilities.

So Jose at Everton, and the chance to awaken a sleeping giant may not be that outlandish.

Phil Walling
20 Posted 10/04/2016 at 19:19:20
Ian and others, with all due respect, you are talking through your proverbial. Mourinho wouldn't touch Everton with a bargepole. He is already wedded to Man Utd as soon as they are numerically out of the top four finishers. And if they should by some miracle make the cut, he'll be back 'sur le Continent!'
Brin Williams
21 Posted 10/04/2016 at 19:20:05
Here is my post of the 28 Jan 2016 timed at 13.03.45 – this was when Mourinho was supposed to have written a six-page application for the Man Utd job.

'Neil, Excellent post mate, now please write a similar letter to Jose Mourinho explaining how we are about to get new owners and how he can take us places with the nucleus of our current squad. Tell him to write a six-page application for the job.

If the new owners have the best in mind for Everton they will have monitored Jose's employment status and the sooner they decide that he is the man to take this club forward the better.

I can think of no other manager that will put the steel back into our backbone – I admire what he has done at the so called 'big clubs' but let him now prove himself to be the really great manager that he perceives himself to be. There is a blank canvas at Everton for him to start drawing plans for immortality.

Personally I think he is a big egotistic prick – but hey haven't we suffered one of them for the past two years!'

Mark Frere
22 Posted 10/04/2016 at 19:30:35
Phil (20) – Man Utd have had the option to appoint 'the special one' in the past and chose not to. If by some miracle they decide against him again, then what other options does Mourinho have? Which teams on the Continent will really appeal to him? I certainly can't think of many.
Martin Mason
23 Posted 10/04/2016 at 20:14:50
Watching Spurs (good side) destroy Man Utd today put our narrow defeat to them last week into perspective. We have to accept 2 possibilities now and they are that we have a poor squad or a poor manager but, whatever, we are finishing in the lower half of the most open Premier League race in many years. What an opportunity and we missed it.

Martinez must go but I have a feeling that Martinez is Kenwright's line in the sand as Moyes was being his men. He is a very stubborn man. Getting Moyes back would be a betrayal for Blues who want us to progress not time travel backwards. Man Utd would be insane to give Mourinho a job and he isn't good enough for our club, he is a megalomaniac who bullies ladies. He lacks class completely and can only operate only with far higher a budget than Everton could give him.

As I say though, Martinez will stay in his job as long as we keep buying the product. When it comes to it, you only truly accept mediocrity when you pay to finance it. Sorry guys.

Philip Yensen
24 Posted 10/04/2016 at 22:27:07
I wonder if the players are in a dilemma. Perform well get a few victories and Martinez's job is safe. Lose some and just do enough and get him sacked.

These players under Koeman, Bilic or even Moyes would have more drive and energy. We have all said it, well at least 90% of the Evertonians: Martinez is the problem, full stop.
Mike Green
25 Posted 10/04/2016 at 23:11:49
Philip (#24) – the answer to that is do what they are doing – play like relegation fodder in the league and go for glory in the Cup. The Premier League trumps the Cup when it comes to business so that way they could get a medal and still get him sacked – win win. Haven't seen many of the players coming out and endorsing him, have you.....?
Ian Brandes
26 Posted 10/04/2016 at 23:53:48

There are huge obstacles to the Special One taking over at Man Utd, not least Ferguson, and others and the influence they all wield.

Concerning Everton, there is growing talk in London that he could be tempted by the challenge of making us great again. Might just be media talk, and gossip, but we have never had a Billionaire as the main man before.

And Jose does like billionaires until they sack him!

Anto Byrne
27 Posted 11/04/2016 at 06:14:57
Mourhino is a win-at-all-costs manager. If it means playing defensively to win, he would. I doubt he would have favorites or care about players' egos. I'm sure he would look at the playing list and say "What the fuck?" I think we are too nice and need a real bad ass in charge.
Richard Lyons
28 Posted 11/04/2016 at 06:30:20
Did any of you read the report about Everton fans' attitudes to Martinez and the "out" banner etc on the Daily Mail website? (I'm not a Mail reader – there was a link to it from TW.)

Interesting though, it certainly summarised my feelings about Martinez; in fact I thought the article could have been written by a consortium of TWebbers... So with any luck the message will be reaching the ears of those who make the decisions.

Paul Andrews
29 Posted 11/04/2016 at 06:43:48
Another accurate report from you Lyndon.

Confidence at a low point and no fighting spirit apart from one or two. I thought Lukaku gave his worse performance of the season; disinterested is being kind.

Barkley is having too many touches when he is in possession with a packed defence in front of him; he can have as many as he wants if he is driving onto a back four having broken the midfield line. For me he is at his best when he plays one and two touch in midfield.

What can we say about Stones. After a solid display defensively last week he goes back to the silly mistakes. We had scored in the 46th minute,and he does that in the 47th minute? Clear the lines and get the half time whistle.

Talking after the game one lad said "he is playing to orders". I'm not having that.If he is the player some people say he is,although the majority in my opinion are starting to realise the penny is not dropping with him,he would not play that pass. He can't help himself.

Looks like it will be Stones and Funes Mori for the derby game. They will be all over Stones with their pressing game, let's see if he tries the foolishness then.

Robles showed he is a good keeper with a couple of great saves. McCarthy is a poor player in my opinion, he just does not want the ball. He puts himself in positions where he can't receive the ball when we are in possession.

Deulofeu... confidence shot; Lennon ineffective in the position he played. Martinez got that wrong, worse, he didn't react to it. Deulofeu and Lennon should have been told to switch wings as the left back was there for the taking.

Another disappointing day.

Alan J Thompson
30 Posted 11/04/2016 at 08:06:36
Well said, Paul (#29); Some people have said that it was poor defending at the corner and not Stones pass to Robles that was the problem but if there was no corner then there would not have been the goal.

I thought he should have turned parallel to the touch line and somewhere in front of him should have been one of the best over-lapping full backs in the competition and also a tricky Spanish winger. Failing that, if he had hit the corner flag at their end the 40 seconds would probably have passed.

Stones is a good player in the making but he's fast becoming a goal-a-game man.

Gerald Foo
31 Posted 11/04/2016 at 12:13:33
I keep reading comments from players, fans, pundits etc that Everton is under performing this season as this is our best team in years. We should be challenging for Europe as on paper we have much better players than a lot of the teams above us.

This is total and utter bollocks. The league table never lies. Never. We are 14th because we are the 14th best team in the league. And consequently, you are the 14th best group of players.

Maybe the biggest fault of Martinez is getting these players to think that they are better than they actually are. When it comes to the crunch, we do not have the heart, desire or capability to get one over the teams above us.

The longer we think that this will all one day just 'click' into place and we become world beaters, and ignore all the hard work and commitment needed, the further we will sink and sink and sink.

So to Martinez, your entire coaching staff, and most importantly the players, its time to take a long hard look at yourselves. You think you're god's gift to football? Well, I'm afraid to tell you that you're a million miles away.

You're hurting the most important people in the world. The people who sacrifice their time, money and sanity just to be able to watch you play for 90 minutes. The fans who travel thousands of miles in the hope that today is going to be a good day.

So please, do us a favour. If you're not interested, then have the decency to leave. There is only so much more heartache that the fans can take. You're not as good as you think you are.

Craig Walker
32 Posted 11/04/2016 at 13:19:36
Martinez isn't good enough for Everton FC. Neither are most of the players.

If we swallow the hype then Barkley is a world class football talent. Baines and Coleman are two of the best full backs in the league. Baines is a set-piece specialist. McCarthy is a ball-winning centre midfield player. Deulofeu is good enough for Barcelona, eventually. Lukaku is a £70 million player. Stones is a £40 million central defender. Mirallas is class.

My view is that none of these are true. Steven Gerrard at Barkley's age was controlling the midfield, scoring goals, winning games. Barkley is too greedy and has no awareness. I would sell to the highest bidder.

Baines hasn't been the same player without Pienaar. Coleman was good 2 seasons' back getting forward, getting goals. Not anymore. He's been sussed out.

McCarthy doesn't win the ball back and gives the easy ball every single time. A glorified David Batty but with even less talent. He covers a lot of ground but achieves nothing. At the weekend he did his usual trick of scoring a goal in April/May but that will be it for the season.

Deulofeu can beat a man but then just fizzes the ball across the area, hoping someone gets on the end of it. A good winger would have his head up and put the ball where it can be attacked. My 5-year-old son has more stamina.

Lukaku has two modes: goal-getter or pudding. Predictably, he's turned into the latter mode after his Champions League comments.

If Stones was as good as he thinks he is, he'd be at Real Madrid next season. Get shut whilst we can still get a decent fee. Every performance in a blue shirt lowers his value.

Mirallas is greedy and should have been sold after the penalty fiasco last season. There was clamour for him to be played and he got sent off against West Ham. Get rid.

On top of this, we have Cleverley who offers nothing – no attacking intent, no ball-winning capabilities, no leadership, no drive, no organisation, no nothing. My mum is 77 and would offer us more in an Everton shirt.

Robles and Howard are the worst keepers in the division. Fact.

Barry can hold his head up this season but he's slower than a tax rebate, goes sideways too often, doesn't offer any goal threat and gets too many bookings.

Jags has been a good servant but doesn't offer enough leadership.

Funes Mori has done okay this season to be fair apart from the odd lapse.

Oviedo is an honest pro but is too injury prone.

Kone and Niasse are not good enough for any other premier league team. Why did we sell Naismith and spend more money on Niasse? I will never fathom that one.

Why are Pienaar, Hibbert, Osman and Gibson still at the club?

Do we really have the talented group of players that we all are led to believe we possess? Which of our players would get into the Spurs team, as an example? Lukaku, maybe. His performances over the past 3 games have been Championship standard rather than Champions League.

I think we're far closer to having to have a massive clear-out than we are to being real contenders. I don't believe the shite that Sky Sports espouse because they watched a few games 2 years ago.

Ian Burns
33 Posted 11/04/2016 at 15:19:22
Craig – if the players read this post, they will be slitting their own throats tonight!

By the way, you missed out Lennon – he will be upset to know you don't care.

Dan Davies
34 Posted 11/04/2016 at 16:55:55
Don't hold anything back Craig!
Stephen Davies
35 Posted 11/04/2016 at 17:34:59
Craig, there's a lot of truth in what you say.

Barkley for instance. Take a look at Sighurdsson at Swansea and Eriksson at the Spurs over the weekend and how much they influence games.

He's a fine player Barkley but in a football context is not intelligent enough. He disappears when we most need him and very rarely takes the game by the scruff of the neck. He flatters to deceive.

I totally get what you're saying about McCarthy. He can run around all day long but again rarely makes things happen or drives the team forward.

With Lukaku we don't always play to his strengths... he's hopeless with his back to goal. Give him a ball to run onto, put it in front of him and he will more likely score. Surely the rest of the team know that? Look at Vardy. Would he play most of the match with his back to goal?

The ball winners and play makers in that team know he's as fast as fuck and play the ball where he can run onto it and use his pace.

There has been a problem with lack of playmakers at Everton for years now. I remember watching the Arsenal game at their place in Martinez's first season. We were very very good, even out passing Arsenal... However, despite this, it was clear to see that something was missing when we got near the penalty area. No one had the guile or craft to do something different. Barkley can do it occasionally but not to the same consistency as say Courtinho, Firminho or Eriksson or Sighurdsson etc.

Lukaku has been a let down these last few days but to be fair he doesn't often get the service... give it to him and he will deliver.

If players are not performing for whatever reason then pull them... put someone else in their place. They can't expect a place if they're coasting. If they want a Wembley place then earn it.

As for the defence, they need help and if they need a specialist defensive coach then get one. David Weir, Carragher even (it's just business) or Neville (no not that one, the other one). We shouldn't be too proud when it comes to improvement.

Craig Walker
36 Posted 11/04/2016 at 17:35:00
Ian – I think Lennon is one of the few who has done okay.

Dan - that was me, holding back. For what it's worth, I was Roberto's biggest fan in his first season but my opinion of him as Everton manager has worsened by the week. The final straw for me was the capitulation in the semi-final against Man City.

Dan Davies
37 Posted 11/04/2016 at 00:01:49
Ha ha, I like it, Craig: say what you mean, mean what you say. He lost me over Xmas, think he lost the players a long time before that.

The whole squad needs an overhaul, Martinez isn't the man to be doing it, hope Moshiri thinks the same.

Jimmi James
38 Posted 12/04/2016 at 13:59:07
Gerald #31, by your reckoning then Leicester have the best group of players, sorry I don't agree. What they do have, however, is a plan to play to their strengths and they go with it, plus a manager who can change things by changing the shape of the team mid game and who uses his subs well.

On the other hand we have a Manager who hasn't a clue how to use his subs or who to use, he doesn't seem to have a plan at all but cant seem to alter the team mid game to react to the opposition. To be fair to the players, they must be given instructions pre match and they stick to it. Let's be honest the players cant just take it upon themselves to ignore the Manager and play how they want can they?

Bottom line is it comes down to the Manager who by definition cant bloody manage. lets see what he says now on Sky Sports.

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