Martinez hopeful over injured pair

Time to move on; there's no room for sentiment in football.

I never thought I'd be saying that a few years back.

Besic's injury looked more serious, and I would prefer he gets another week even if considered fit; we will need Besic fully fit when Barry / McCarthy need replacing (injury, suspension, or just rest).

I would like to see Pennington and/or Browning on the bench.

Gibson sadly has picked up too many injuries for his and for our good. But I can't say I don't feel sorry for him. After all, he is "one of ours", as we always say of our players. And he doesn't intend to get injured. There is room for sentiment(ality).

Give Browning a chance at right back and move Stones into his position if he's having a bad game and give Pennington the Capital One Cup game. I agree with Jimmy with regards to Gibson; if he could find another club, I'd get rid.

We still don't know much about Funes Mori, and even though Galloway was brilliant against Chelsea; he was torn apart by Man City. And he's just back from injury, so it might make more sense to keep Funes Mori on the bench to provide depth.

Browning has experience playing right back at Anfield and at Old Trafford. He looked fine in preseason, and he has put in the early work this summer to be ready for just this kind of situation.

I don't hold the Man City game against him; it seems like it should be so easy to switch from the right side of the field to the left, but I've seen it mess up even the best defenders who get disoriented by the new field location. Give Browning a shot if Seasmus can't go... more time to heal that hammie.

A major part of that evidence would obviously rest on being able to actually get onto the field of play and perform with any degree of regularity and consistency. Throughout his career, especially during his time at Everton, Gibson has been unable to perform that fairly important/essential task. There may well be any number of factors contributing to that but all the evidence seems to highlight the primary one that he seems unable to withstand the physical rigours of the occupation for a whole variety of reasons, some of which we have little or no knowledge of, some may be of his own doing and others may well be down to misfortune. However, the fact remains that he has been unable to play anything like a meaningful role in the evolution of the team in the time he has been here and surely it is time to say enough is enough and facilitate his move to pastures new. His financial security after all should not really be in too much doubt? Surely

Everton must then be capable of nurturing and producing a young player who is able to do what the club actually pay him for and expect him to do, namely actually play? Anybody who maintains otherwise would have to point to the evidence to justify an opposing view. Football is after all a business with employees paid to do a job. If they cannot do that job then unfortunately their continuing employment becomes problematic. It is nothing to do with being "inhuman" simply an observation based on fairly conclusive evidence.

Why is it that footballers today can get away with only playing 30 games a season while others play the whole campaign because they put the extra training in?

Mollycoddled babies aren't treated this well and they don't get 㿞,000 plus a week.

It's late and I've probably missed something really obvious but where is it?

Darren Gibson plus Tony Hibbert along with Steven Pienaar take around 𧸖,000 a month from our wage bill, in return they probably average about 8 games between them and 3 goals. That’s the equivalent of getting a free contract player or a loan deal player on 䀆,000 a week. For that money, we could be looking at a top class player who can play every week.

If anyone is doubting this, I’d like to point to James Milner for one who would come into that bracket and last season Negredo was loaned out for similar wages to what I’ve posted.

Another way of looking at it is that for every game Gibson is fit for, Besic or Ledson could be blooded. Browning the same with Hibbert and Deulofeu in for Pienaar. In that respect these dead beat squad players hold our youth back.

It may sound harsh as some have been good loyal servants to EFC but again there’s another way to see it. Hibbert has earned millions and has barely played in about 4 years, Pienaar bailed to Spurs when it suited him and Gibson has had about 4 seasons to prove his fitness. With a smallish wage budget, it’s something we should look at or build on.

Martinez will know how well Stones and Jags have been playing, and he'll also be keen to keep Stones happy. If he slots him in at right back then he must have little faith in Browning being able to do the job. As well as being keen to see how Funes Mori can cope. It will also depend on the particular threat that Swansea's front men provide.

Hopefully Coleman will have recovered and it won't be an issue.

Hope I did not make it too confusing, but I had been with the grandkids most of the day/evening! This indulgence of players like Gibson however, does get to be a bit tedious! Anyway, thanks for the response/query.

Somebody said, "There's no room for sentiment in football."

I think there is room for sentiment(ality) and posted that. I And Eugene saw some humanity in that.

I also said that sadly he's had too many injuries for him and for us.