Martinez: I understand fans' frustrations

Apparently, the fan pressure at Everton is no different to what he experienced at Wigan. Well it wouldn't be, would it when you are at the arse end of the table ?

All the blame is on the team, he is culpable for nothing... and him and Kenwright speak every day – so there !

Now where have I heard that before?

You have no idea how much we are hurting and have been for 2 years now. If you did understand then you wouldn't keep insulting our intelligence with inane nonsense week after week after week when assessing the latest catastrophe on the pitch.

If you did understand us then you would have made damn sure the players put maximum effort in every week instead of letting them coast week after week. And if you did understand us then you wouldn't rebuke one of our own when he had the temerity to finally speak the truth, something that has been sadly lacking from your mouth ever since you were so fortunate to join the club.

Evertonians are born not manufactured and you were most definitely manufactured. You understand nothing!!

He's an embarrassment, and full of his own importance, and Kenwright needs to pull the finger out.

"We are still involved in two competitions." What? FA Cup and the EPL? I thought every team in the EPL at the beginning ot the season was involved in the EPL still. No effort required at all just ask Aston Villa. When were the knockout rounds? What does 14th place get?

Never mind, he did it again. Back out onto the ledge.

It's actually getting to be quite funny now. I almost feel sorry for him.

Hoping against hope for a decent result tomorrow, i.e. a win. (Remember those?)

God only knows what the atmosphere is going to be like on Saturday if it's another reverse.

COYB

He really has no comprehension of what is expected and thinks just staying in the Premier League and winning the occasional game is satisfactory. Sorry, Roberto, you are a nice guy and nice guys finish last.

If they get a point at Palace, it won't be because of anything he has done.

We're a dignified club. He's the Everton manager. We have a semi-final next weekend too.

Hello?

Anybody there?

Bueller?

Even if we went on a miracle run and won all our remaining games, I still would not want this demented fool over us.

Martinez out now

Oh yes there is, Roberto, and it lies firmly with you.

I know Wigan is out in the sticks but this guy is surely from another planet.

Just look up Chris Sutton's various outpourings, or the TalkSport phone ins etc. And virtually every person says Everton are punching well below their weight, especially in a season where Leicester will likely finish top of the pile.

Go through the teams side by side, and see how many Foxes would get in our side. Sad it may be, but there is a tipping point for everything, and I fear Roberto is past the point of no return with ours.

I swear I will not get angry about this. I promise I'm not dreading the match tomorrow and smug arsehole Pardew's self satisfied face. I won't want to dislike the approach up to Goodison on Saturday, stomach in knots fearing deja vu all over again. Z Cars the highlight of the afternoon..

No such thing as blame my arse!

Prick!

Just don't understand why Kenwright can't see it and 40,000 fans and the media can. I was there with 13-16,000 crowds when Kendall was under pressure of losing his job in 1983.

It was never ever this bad with all support polarised against the manager. Martinez is no Kendall.

Unless Everton Board change him, nothing will change for our club apart from being in reverse. The longer this idiot is in charge, it will be just as detrimental to our great club as when we were banned from Europe in 1985... This time it's in our hands.

Please please sack him now.....!!!!!

"There is no such thing as blame". Yes there is and that is you. You are entirely responsible for this mess as you are the manager.

The campaign will end happily though for everyone once you have fucked off from the club.

I just wish Martinez would read this and recognised his time is up and realised that his brown shoes are made for walking... away.

Who or what will save us from this nightmare that is spiralling out of control.

How many Everton players would get in the Leicester team, you might ask.

I can think of four Leicester players that would be in most teams' starting lineup in the league.

What a ridiculous statement. What the hell is there to fight for in the league campaign?

As a unit their defensive back 5 currently puts ours to shame with the mids and strikers also doing their bit. Five clean sheets in a row is it now?

They are top of the pile and rightly so – you cannot win the Premier League by flukey results. Hope they do it as they deserve it more than Spurs imo.

It becomes ever more risible as the end of tenure approaches, like a form of death throes as the victim – by that stage a figure of ridicule or even pity – clings desperately to the delusion that hope remains.

Either that or I am trying to rationalise the ramblings of a man totally detached from reality.

Roberto Martinez will start next season as manager. I will rant and rave but my wife has suggested yoga. (Actually, her words were, "you are going to give yourself a heart attack if you don't start acting like a grown man, you are really getting on my nerves.) So, let us win a few games.

We're all trying even, especially Roberto. Some big games coming up.

You're pretty much spot on in your comments. His last few press conferences have seen the assembled journos 'circling for the kill'. Like a pack of wolves they can smell blood and the questions aimed at him are more pertinent now than they have ever been during his time at Everton.

Hence the almost blunt 'Where do you think the blame lies'? He's not daft though, he would have been privy to the sound advice provided by his 'trade union', the League Managers Association, who will have told him to 'see it through to the bitter end', and Everton are contractually obliged to compensate you heavily if they decide to sack you.

The odds are he'll stick it out to the end of the season and then we'll see who really wears the trousers now at Everton.

That was the day I started doubting Roberto. He'd been caught with his pants down around his ankles.

He may be sacked if we lose tomorrow. If Kenwright and the Board cannot see that this man is out of his depth then I really do despair.

He hasn't a hope in hell of winning the cup and personally if he does I still want him to do one!!!

I honestly don't see this as a 'phenomenal moment', as someone else said it's getting funny, this is probably my way of coping with this psychological whirlpool.

I dislike going to the match all due to him, this saddens me. Not arsed about tomorrow's result, I only care about going to the match a week Saturday.

How I echo that!

Smith and Moyes both outstayed their welcome by a few years and they never got this vitriol and constant abuse.

I want Leicester to win it to give all other teams hope, but with our squad, this is truly a season squandered league wise. And any new found money next season will pale into comparison against the really big spenders as they buy back their birthright from the Midlands upstarts.

Although, thinking back, I said that about the Catalan's appointment!

MARTINEZ OUT!!

He doesn't have a clue! Just one more thing in a season of nearly total cluelessness. Made that last word up, but it fits.

Damian (#58), you are so right. Someone at work told me we were playing palace tomorrow. I used to name our next five fixtures, can't be arsed. How the hell are Bournemouth, West Bromwich Albion above us in the league. He should be sacked on that alone.

Mr Kenwright you are to blame and no one else. You and you alone were lazy in recruiting a new manager. A manager that relegated a club after years of struggling at the bottom of the league. On what basis did he get a club like Everton to manage? At least Moyes went on to manage the most successful team in Britain. Martinez will be lucky to manage in the Championship.

If we finish the season badly, next season under Martinez will be a relegation fight. No form, players leaving, and no confidence. Look at Leicester City, finished last season on a high and continued it!!

Martinez out? NO, NO, get the pair of the fucking loonies out of the club NOW, before we all go fucking mad. Listen to me I'm already half way there.

However, say, he nearly gets the rabbit out of the hat. Three league wins, and, a brutally unlucky semi final.

Oh no you don't!

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I had recourse to this method about this time last year and it worked for me.

I do hope you are right in your predictions. Eugene's pitched forks and flaming torches post has been niggling at me for a couple of days.

Up the Blues!!!

Just the 3 semi finals (2 FA & 1 League Cup) in the Moyes' 11 year tenure. Let's get him back. Another few near misses by 2028 under Davie and we can all die happy?

Or we could lose our next few league games. We could get stuffed in the cup semi-final and we could be down to our last couple of league games and Martinez is still waffling about finishing strong. I give up.

But the saddest , frustrating thing of all no matter what happens for the rest of the season, Martinez will still be at Everton at the start of next season. You see we don't sack managers. Smith and Walker were poor but they never had the players that Martinez has to work with. All hypothetical, I know. Shame on Martinez for wasting this opportunity of getting the best out of this so called "best ever squad".

Shame on Kenwright also for allowing this nonsense to fester for about two years. Check some of the first seasons results and performances as well. Not really as good as what some supporters think. A few very good wins but a lot of scrappy draws and one goal wins. And home defeats to Sunderland and Palace. The signs were there, right from the start. I want more from Everton FC.

Just a last comment: When Moyes, Smith, Walker, Harvey, Kendall, Lee, Bingham and even the great Harry Catterick were all going through lean times... when some of the football was not great I still cared. I was there, supporting. Believing. Not giving up.

I am finding it very hard to care what happens to Martinez's Everton. I want us to be safe I want us to win the cup but I also want this season to end. We are going nowhere under Martinez. And the sooner our new 49.9% man sees that the better.

Martinez out.

I hate "breaking up", it's painfully, messy and frankly........ just fuckin scary.

I'd LOVE Roberto to just sort out our defensive frailties, but I believe that he just won't. He never, ever will.

I have an ex who was just fuckin adorable, utter sex kitten, but day by day she was/is utterly bewildering. In our early days together, I was in utter bliss. Eventually I realised that the cost of our continued relationship would be my dignity, all the very things that add up to me being me.

Clearly, I would not accept that. It was bloody painful.

Roberto, if you walk, then I'll respect that, but I'm really sorry Roberto, it's over.

I tend to side with #2. He thinks he can hoodwink us all with his Martinez gobbledegook double talk and hasn't realised we've all seen through his lies and smoke and mirrors philosophy (well, most of us have). I just want to see the back of this man who has poisoned our club with his failed tactics, ineptitude and downright lies. The man is clueless.

Someone posted earlier asking why Moyes didn't suffer this degree of vitriol, simple answer, he didn't try to make us believe we were world beaters while overseeing a catastrophic plunge into the lower reaches of the Premier League.

You clueless fuckwit, I despair I really do, this fella is so effing deluded its beyond belief. Surely the only reason he's still here is because they can pay him off less the worse we finish, maybe? I don't know, but I can't think of any other logical reason.

Would you want to win the cup if it means Martinez is manager next season? Yes or No?

It does appear that the goodwill is well and truly exhausted among the fanbase – not just here on TW. Best we can hope for is that behind the scenes that Farhad Moshiri has already decided his fate and is waiting for the summer to install a replacement. The only justification I can find for leaving Martinez in place to the summer is that a replacement has been identified that is unavailable until the end of the season (Pellegrini??).

I just don't listen to him anymore, I prefer to judge him on what I see out on the pitch, it's less stressful and confusing. Although the conclusion is the same: Martinez out!

Roberto however is just an arrogant idiot

No such thing as blame my arse!

Prick!"

I have no need to add to this.

This season is beginning to have the feel of the Moyes season when we finished 18th, enough points with 7 games to go and lose them all.

It's quite odd now, as when there were the arguments about Moyes there was a clear split in opinion, now it seems that 95%+ want Bobby gone.

I have never called for a manager's head, but I did after the Watford game... Fuck it! I was screaming for it at the final whistle against West Ham.

I think strong drink may have been involved!