Sunderland vs Everton

Sunderland will be well up for this but I hope the players show a bit of pride and try and win the game. Either way Martinez will be sacked after the next two games and we can look forward to massive changes at the club.

This team has been destroyed. Barkley and Lukaku should both have played their last games this season, neither have shown any desire whatsoever, but when you look around for options, there are precious few.

Barry will steady the ship if available making it a nervy night for the Makems.

The speculation surrounding the manager's position is at fever pitch. One of the players (who I won't name) was at a family occasion on Sunday and he told me it's exactly the same on the inside. The players are all feeling uncertainty over their futures because they have no idea who will be the boss next season.

I'm beginning to think Kenwright will convince Moshiri to give Martinez another chance next season.

They've all turned now, but when I think of all that gushing love for Martinez and the delusional claims made on his behalf. The old adage "you get the club you deserve" springs to mind.

People talk about protests, but Kenwright is only one of thousands to have bought the snake oil. Those who shamefully ignored all evidence and obstinately stuck to their foolish claims have been hugely responsible for the decay we have witnessed this season.

Two years of blind devotion will not be eradicated by 0.25% of the crowd protesting for a couple of minutes long after everyone's gone home.

"Oh Roberto he had a . .err drea . . .m"

Logic also says Mirallas in place of Niasse but again?

I have never in my life wanted Everton to lose but in this one I don't really care as long as Newcastle go down and RM's position becomes totally untenable.

That is a jaw-dropping stat. Those are the sorts of figures you'd expect from San Marino, not a Premier League side.

There have been so many individual stats and instances in Martinez's reign where people have said, "He deserves sacking on the basis of that alone."

Surely that stat is the most indictable of all. Absolutely shameful.

A 36-year-old who can barely break into a trot and turns like the the Titanic, he and McCarthy should be benched next season!

I'd love to see some new faces tomorrow, some youth to see who can make the grade next season.

If Martinez has any compassion he will keep the kids well away from the poisonous atmosphere. Everyone knows that Martinez is in for a rough evening. I think it would be very unfair of him to throw the kids in when it's going to be so hostile.

In a rare bit of praise for Martinez, I will say that I was pleased he completely absolved Pennington of any blame after the Leicester game.

The time to try new things was 6 months ago, if not earlier.

Martinez and his regular eleven have made their bed - they can damn well lie in it.

Our home record is totally indefensible, and if Martinez wants to defend it with our away record we have picked up 2 points out of our last 15.

Our win ratio this season in the league is 27.8%.

If they win, 45000 Makems will make the noise at the King Power last week sound like a minor disturbance.

If we win 90%+ of the 4000 travelling blues will make their way to their coaches to enjoy a bevy and hope they can get home before 2am

He is in a business that uses publicity to sell tickets, tickets for his shows, he is chairman of a premier team, if he does not know then he must be wheeled into matches and then taken out and put in a sealed room until time to come out again.

If he is that stupid not to see what has happened under this manager I cannot believe that The new investor will sit back and watch his investment go south, into the championship next season, it cannot happen, there is no return for Martinez he has had his chance and failed.

I was hoping he would be gone before tonight's match, I desperately want him gone before Saturday as I for one will leave on 78 minutes if that happens or 90 minutes if it does not.

If they want to ignore that 94% of 15,187 Evertonians, no matter how militant, have voted he should be sacked that is their look out.

I guess it depends how confused they are with Martinez's pre-match team talk, if they are bothering to listen any more. How I hate the "I" word now, sick of hearing about "intensity ". If you asked Martinez what the time is, he would probably get "intensity" into his answer. Please Go.

An away record that has seen us win a whopping THREE matches since the end of September, I bet all the top four are envious of that away record.... NOT.

A fitting conclusion to an "unlucky" season. The sooner it's over, the better.

We've got the 10th best away record in the league I'll have you know. More draws than any other team. It's our joint second worst in the league home record that's let us down - give the guy a break!

Thats an incredible stat. That really says it all doesn't it? Just imagine if they had scored just a quarter of those chances the scores would have been schoolboy football scores, dear me.

Did you ask this player did he like playing for the Manager, did he believe in his set up, was he and the team on board with him etc etc....?

This would be my team for tonight – a bit of balance, no square pegs in round holes and a chance to see two left-footed players compliment one another.

Oviedo, Besic or Stones at right back. It doesn't work but as Harold used to point out, Bobby is the most risk averse manager in the league. No point in giving Connolly or Kenny a game in their natural position.

As much as my heart wants an Everton win, my head says Sunderland will be safe from relegation after tonight.

Robles
Connolly Stones Mori Galloway
Davies Besic
Lennon Dowell Evans
Lukaku

You are right All football clubs use Social Media Monitoring Tools, My Wife works for Socialbakers and has sold the software into several Premier League and championship cubs. These tools pick up and monitor everything that is said online. good and bad. #Martinezout has been trending for 2 years and is only growing.

On another note I really don't want to watch the game, however the dark side of me wants to see if Sky Sports pick up on the 3000 plus away fans singing "Roberto get out of our club" like they did on Saturday.

Never want to see Everton lose but it has become a all to regular occurrence, so I hoping this game is the final nail in Bobby's coffin.

When you have Fat Sam saying that, not Pep Guardiola, you know your team isn't all it should be.

Lyndon (#11) – we know their are agreements in place before Moshiri completes a full takeover. The only logical conclusion I can come to is that the current manager can't be sacked until after the season ends unless that decision is unanimous. Therefore Kenwright is the problem, but I have no doubt he'll be gone after the season's finished. His position is untenable.

It's easy to get on ToffeeWeb and slag anyone off but his latest utterings fill me with dread, fear and sadness, and show how most people will do anything for money. Sad for his loss of dignity; dread, for the fact I was taken in by the man; and fear both for Roberto's sanity, and Everton Football Club's immediate future, if he stays.

How can a man say the players never let him down on Saturday, and then say that we are all in this together, in the same interview? Flabbergasting!!

I still blame the board, rather than the manager, though, because whilst tonight means nothing, unless you're a Mackem, this team of ours should be getting ready for a cup final, next Saturday. All in the name of MONEY?

Yet, it has been a great opportunity for Martinez since the Liverpool debacle to play more of the Under-21s to relieve some of the pressure from his shoulders with nothing to play for, in the Premier League. Instead, he keeps playing players who keep letting him down such as playing Oviedo at right back, when it was far better playing Connolly.

There might be investment in the club but the club does not need this money to cover witheld season ticket money in the bank.

I've said it before but, like some others, I'm fearful it's just not going to happen. How could any manager be allowed to stay after the last derby defeat? Then the first half in the semi after, just terrible.

It was the crowd that raised the team to at least have a go and then another kick in the teeth at the end. The worst season I can remember. That 68 shots stat is horrific.

Robles;
Lennon, Funes Mori, Pennington, Galloway;
Barry, Besic, Dowell, Barkley;
Lukaku, Howard (scored more PL goals than Niasse)

Yes, we have had bad luck at points, but we have also had lucky breaks. Stones has got away with three or four penalty claims at least. It's an excuse to lose one game, not for the whole season.

Martinez cannot be held liable for professional players that cannot string together a few passes, or for defenders that go walkabout and switch off during a game. He can only react for the next game (which is his fault for not reacting anywhere near quick enough, if at all).

For managers we have gone from one extreme to another, Moyes was too defensive, and struggled to get exciting, attacking football. Martinez cannot get his defense to stop shipping goals, but when the attackers can be bothered, it is great stuff.

We need their lovechild and we'll be fine. Disgusting thought, but there it is....

They have never looked strong in defence nor controlling in midfield with Barklay, Besic, Oviedo and Cleverly being stand out disappointments since the turn of the year. One never expected much from the others such as Osman, Gibson or Pienaar for obvious reasons.

I suppose to be fair to Norwich and the Barcodes, the strongest team should be selected, at least on paper, but one could argue that the strongest team has repeatedly failed to get results.

The horrible thing is we all know what sort of performance is coming tonight. We all want our enjoyment back, when we look forward to watching The Mighty Toffees.

Phil 5, the stats are wrong, it was only 59 shots and only 21 of them were on target.

Trevor 42, the season ticket money is small potatoes compared to the Sky money.

I expect a turgid boring display of football tonight from both sides but Sunderland need the points and that will probably win out.

Never want Everton to lose and I still remember Fat Sam laughing his head off after yet another foul on Cahill went unpunished due to his comments pre-match and the bellend of a ref lapping it all up and thinking Cahill was a bully and deserved the rough treatment.

Send them down, makes no difference to me, but we all know they will get the 3 points as the manager is useless and the players are already on holiday and should be fined for their absolute lack of professionalism.

Whether a resounding victory for the Blues will change the course of history, I know not, although I suspect it will be more than welcome relief for BK in his determination to see Roberto through yet another 'bad patch'.

I don't know what the answer is with the modern day player. They need toughening up in my opinion. Let them incorporate boxing into their training like a lot if sports including rugby do. A right 'ook to the ribs may wake them up.

What is frightening is Phil's comment that a victory could see Roberto still in charge next season.

It pains me to say this but I really do hope we get tonked as surely that will leave Bill with no option but to get rid of this deluded fool who will, if allowed to stay, take us down in 2 years tops. Sad times!

The most annoying manager EVER. I've never known myself get so angry by someone.

C'mon, you Mackems!!!!

I want Everton to win tonight and on Sunday, because that's how it should be, but I totally understand those that are saying if we win both matches it will give Roberto a stay of execution. I can't think of many football clubs Premier League or otherwise who would ignore the results of the team for almost two years, ignore the feelings of the supporters for almost the same period of time and carry on supporting a manager who is so obviously out of his depth that even none Everton fans are saying it.

It's depressing enough to know the club hierarchy doesn't give a monkeys whether we care or not but when some of the players take the same attitude as they have since the FA Cup semi loss, that is totally out of order and a kick in the teeth for the best fans in the game. Just hope Sunderland stay in the Prem.

Also , I have never liked Sam Allardyce and would like to turn the heat up on him, and of course if we were in New castle's position we would want and expect them to turn up so to speak.

Our players , I hope will know in the interests of fair play tonight's game is a completely different scenario to out last outing at the home of the champions - we didn't care.

Sunderland are in form and we are all over the place.
An early blues goal please.
I guess we will all know within 10 to 15 minutes if Everton care about sportsmanship - I hope whatever team is out they do !
COYB.

Let's hope he didn't hurt himself filling his own plate with food, we don't want anymore injuries do we?

I have never forgotten the integrity shown by Chelsea when, against the wishes of their supporters, they beat Bolton in 1998 and kept us up. Hope we're as honest as that.

Chelsea fans were hoping for a Bolton win to send us down.

I was doubting myself that this never happened because one of our fans were there, who stated Chelsea fans were willing a Chelsea win, maybe where he sat they were, but watching it on sky, you could see a large number of Chelsea fans wanting a different result.

I can only think this was payback, when we sent Chelsea down around 77/78, they owed it to see Everton relegated, thankfully, the Chelsea team did us a massive favour.

We do not pass and move (play statues) and the players seem like they don't care, which maybe they don't, yes they should but if they have been beaten down week after week with a system that does not work then what they are paid does not come into it (even if it should) they give a strong impression that like us they want Martinez gone, and why he has not, well I give up on that one.

How about we don't want to play for you Mr. Martinez but if we speak out we get banished (unless your Lukaku).

Whatever it is I keep hoping it will be his last TV appearance as Everton manager.

Martinez and BK have left me feeling numb. Not that interested in tonight.

Get him out now BK.

Oh, and fuck off Bill and Bob!!

Surely they can't play as bad again??

One of my sons was standing in front of the "fast pass" line near a 'thrills and spills' ride. This woman came up to him and said:

"D'yall have a slow pass for this ride? Cos I don't want to go on it at all."

That is how I feel about this evening's game. Not sure I really want to watch ... but I will. Come to think of it, "slow pass" probably sums up the manager's instructions to our team

Tonight's result, if it's a win for us, will have come far, far, too late. Martinez, has to go.

See you there.

Not only that but there'll be thousands of fans making the trip who deserve, at the very least, a shift from these players.

Finally, take it from an Evertonian living up here – Sunderland are a joke of a club and their fans are horrible, delusional cretins who focus as much of their energies hating everything Newcastle as they do supporting their own team. I hope we beat these tonight to push them down where they belong!

Anything else is just pointless!

Maybe the decision is made one way or the other but if it's not another limp spiritless display can only assist his exit.

Add I genuinely never envisaged wishing such a thing.

Saw this..

"I won't be watching this one and not just for the usual anti football reasons or me wanting to vomit everytime I see hippo head. Everton have their flip-flops on and I have the feeling they want Martinez gone."

Seems about right.

Na, He told us the players have heard nothing and that they were as eager as the fans for news. I figured that if they hadnt heard anything at all, then there was nothing to hear.

I'm probably putting two n two together and making five, but I'm worried Robbie will still be here come August.

Will find out the result on the way home. Season ended at Wembley for me.

This game I am about to watch summed up before we kick off

Looks like were stuck with Robbo, thought make me sick.