Report claims Everton to hold talks with Emery

Sorry about that folks, but you have to take the rough with the smooth!

Not a bad choice if he gets the job, but still would prefer FDB.

"He entered the room like a latter day Zoro, he had me at the first flutter of his eyelashes." etc etc

That lack of pre-planning asks serious questions, in my mind, of how clued up our Club's leaders were about what was happening on the pitch and in the dressing room. As time goes by, I'm eben starting to think that Martinez's sacking was some sort of knee jerk attempt to avoid fan protests - how else can the ineptitude of leaving our ship rudderless when our best crew want out be explained?

Now we have a power vacuum at the Club at a critical time, with serious questions starting to emerge over what the Board were thinking in March and April.

Let's hope we can bring this one home.

For those that point to the away record this year he has drawn quite a few not lost them and played weakened teams due to the prioritisation of the Europa cup but if you look at his longer term record he has been consistently good in a league dominated by Real, Barcelona and Atletico.

It's a funny old game though, isn't it?
Since RM's sacking barely two weeks ago, the place seems to have been reinvigorated with new youngsters, a new stadium and high profile managers associated with the Club.

Let's hope they don't disappoint us.

Koeman is still my favourite and it's unlikely to happen, but if it was to I'd be worried he'd walk out the door as soon as another offer came along. It seems to be his way and he doesn't seem like he'd offer the longevity of De Boar.

Emery is really growing on me. It's hard to break the monopoly in La Liga and it seems to me the only thing that's stopped him is lack of finances. To win the Europa 3 times running show that he is a top, manager. Winning a cup is our realistic route of success and he trumps De Boar in this respect who has worrying won no cups apart from the Dutch charity shield.

I think it's easier to see how De Boar would improve the side. I'm sure we'd see more of the likes of Davies and Dowell next season under his stewardship. I'm positive that we would also mine the Dutch league for some of the best talent including some unknown gems. This is very appealing for me.

I'm not sure how Emery would translate his vision. All I can see, is his record which is very impressive apart from an unsuccessful stint in Russia. I think this should also be taken into consideration. Could he adapt to the Prem?! I hear that he speaks English so that is encouraging.

I'd be happy with any of the 3 but I honestly don't think we'll get Koeman now. Between Emery and De Boar I think that FDB is the safest option but I think the gamble on Emery might just be worth it.

Koeman is still my favourite and it's unlikely to happen, but if it was to I'd be worried he'd walk out the door as soon as another offer came along. It seems his way and he doesn't seem like he'd offer the longevity of De Boar.

Emery is really growing on me. It's hard to break the monopoly in La Liga and it seems to me the only thing that's stopped him is lack of finances. To win the Europa 3 times running show that he is a top, manager. Winning a cup is our realistic route of success and he trumps De Boar in this respect who ha worrying won no cups apart from the Dutch charity shield.

I think it's easier to see how De Boar would improve the side. I'm sure we'd see more of the likes of Davies and Dowell next season under his stewardship. I'm positive that we would also mine the Dutch league for some of the best talent including some unknown gems. This is very appealing for me.

I'm not sure how Emery would translate his vision. All I can see, is his record which is very impressive apart from an unsuccessful stint in Russia. I think this should also be taken into consideration. Could he adapt to the Prem?! I hear that he speaks English so that is encouraging.

I'd be happy with any of the 3 but I honestly don't think we'll get Koeman now. Between Emery and De Boar I think that FDB is the safest option but I think the gamble on Emery might just be worth it.

Need to practice my backflips now

All kidding aside, I have reservations about Emery because of his shocking away record in the Spanish league.

Colin, 'De Bore' has just left the club.

I honestly keep changing my mind so its a good job the decision isn't mine to make!

My main wish is for someone to get the workrate and teamspirit back into our club.

It makes a refreshing change to see some of the names linked with the vacancy and it is a million miles away from Everton being linked with the usual suspects on the managerial merry-go-round.

Whoever we end up with at Goodison, we all hope and pray that the chosen one delivers good attractive winning football, but right now I'll settle for the winning element.

If the appointed manager gives us a team that competes in every match and aims to win every match then most of us will be happy, whoever it happens to be in the managers seat.

#EmeryIn

He demonstrated he knows how to set up his team to actually win trophies while staying up the top end of the table. He has not spent massive sum to do this and I read that he has shown a profit on his transfer dealings.

He motivated his team to march all over Liverpool in the second half of the Euro league final.
The football his team produced was good but most important to me it was winning footy.
His ticks most of the boxes for me.

This guys away record isn't good enough.
This guy doesn't speak english well enough.
This guy was sacked from this or that club.
This guy has no premier league experience.
This guy once managed Liverpool.
This guys national league isn't good enough.
This guy doesn't bring through youth players.

FFS there is no such thing as the perfect manager. Each guy has pros and cons and as long as the guy we eventually pick hopefully has more pros than cons and he can take the club to the next level then that's the best we can hope for. But if all we are going to do is accentuate the cons while minimising the pros we'll never pick anyone.

When I replied that he wins things it cut no ice. Anyway, the great thing now, is we're looking at managers who have a record of success. I think we'd be very lucky to hit the jackpot first time. But if we can attract competent managers with an international reputation, then at least we are breaking away from the "plucky little Everton, punching above their weight" rubbish.

It took Man City to bring in number of managers before they started getting successful, so it might be the same for us. What I think will be brilliant though, is that our pulling power will increase, for both managers and players.

Whatever manager we get, and the lad who whupped Liverpool would do for me, it will take time to build up a squad of players with that winning, aggressive and skilful football. But I think and believe, it will come.

Emery has definitely risen to top of my list and seems a great option having brought a lot of success to teams with very little money. He plays good football and can change approach mid match.

He's young, well respected and just bested Klopp with room to spare. Get him in!!!

You've made several statements now about Usmanov taking control of Everton. Have you any evidence of this?

I really hope this is true but what is your source for these claims? Are you going off credible evidence or are you just surmising and joining the dots together that he (Usmanov) is a business associate of Moshiri and he doesn't look like he'll get control of Arsenal any time soon.

Simeone and Mourinho were fantasies and until hearing of this report I had also written-off our chances of getting Emery.

This guy took Valencia into the Champions League three years in a row, a feat they have not achieved since. Not to mention all the Europa League wins.

His record is absolutely remarkable.

More likely that he will want a crack at the Champions League again before moving on (if he ever does). If Atletico can get to the final, then he probably thinks maybe us with a few additions.

FdB it will be I feel.

Spot on.

Well said.

Give me a player who can play a simple ball, who can tackle, and a player who can at least hit a shot on target, I do not ask for flash or arrogance, just simple basic football.

Lots to ponder which is why the Club are rightly taking their time.

It probably means nothing. I mean, you can get a quote for Slippy at 100/1 for the EFC job on PP (hell will freeze over). And Roberto Martinez is 20/1 for Barca (is there a parallel universe?)

Keith #68 (Apologies in advance)
I'd be a tad wary of making friendly jokes about people's names on TW (or variations of their names).

You have to ask, will they take it well?
Orville they take offence?
(Probably best to duck the issue all together.)

"but their are several itk Arsenal and Everton fans on twitter that are convinced it's happening."

On Twitter, must be true then.

Dominic:

"Didn't win an away game in the league last season, doesn't rate Del Boy. Had my fill of managers who have glossed over league form with cup success thanks. prefer de boer. Winning titles is an achievement that relies on consistency, turning up and getting stuck in week in week out."

Why on earth do people keep banging on about that he hasn't won a league away game? Forget that he has an incredible record with every club spending pretty much nothing and often having to sell. As well as having promoted several clubs, he had Valencia (who were in a financial mess) finishing third every year and then won three Europa Leagues on the bounce playing some tremendous football.

FdB managed in a league of poor quality. Not that difficult to win the league with Ajax. And he is into 'posession football'

Can people stop boring us with the away record thing. Sevilla finished 7th, won the Europa league and were cup fialists. Are Everton fans who support a team who haven't won a trophy for 21 years and finished in the lower half of the table for two years think this is 'not good enough'? Deluded.

We will be 'increbily lucky' if we get him, but prob. have no chance as he is bigger than us. FdB is desperate after throwing away the league title.

There's no guarantees of course and Mourinho/Guardiola could come and it not work but this guy is a proven winner at more than one club who is now one of the most sought after managers in Europe.

Getting this guy would be a coup and could well usher in a new era of Everton being taken seriously. Even if it doesn't work out it shows off the sort of people we want and can get. Proven, repeated winners.

Maybe because they make up half of your fixture list? Why should it be dismissed as though it's irrelevant and not sufficient enough to raise even the slightest doubt about his suitability for the job?

Anyway, if I remember rightly Damian, didn't you recently deem away games to be of great enough importance to scream the house down about Martinez being a big meff because he thought we'd done well at opposition grounds this season, even though we had only managed to win a measly five?

Also, how is De Boer in any way a "desperate" man? He's walking away from Ajax out of choice, not being chased with a load of snarling hounds at his heels. He clearly must have confidence in himself and a belief that other clubs will soon come calling (if they haven't already). Not like his reputation is in fucking tatters is it?

As for Emery, very highly regarded in Spain, I believe he would actually be able to recruit some top Spanish talent, maybe even some of his players at Sevilla, personally he ticks all the boxes for me.

I mean, who the feck does he think he is and why on earth would someone like that be good enough to manage a team that has finished 11th two years running?

They had a man advantage since the 36th minute and spent much of that time passing it around the back. And then they got caught out multiple times and counter attacks with their defense out of position. Twice Neymar was in on goal and wrongly flagged for off side.

Barcelona had to change the way they played after going down 10 men, but we're still the more threatening. Then they also lost Suarez and took another dip. But still Sevilla couldn't threaten their goal much, with one shot hitting the post.

I didn't say anything about putting them to the sword. I said they didn't look solid defensively deposited having a man advantage.

Again, they were playing against 10 men most of the match and Suarez had to go off injured too. Have you been watching the match? And regarding Lukaku, I said he's a very good striker that has only entered his 20's and will only get better. Never said world class, not once.

But I agree with the match commentators who say Sevilla through away their chance with 10 men, they didn't threaten enough. And there was no reason you should be caught out on the break like they were when you have a man advantage. Unless, which it most likely is, the team was just too fatigued.

I was impressed with how he managed the match. His passion on the sideline was great to see, seems to feed the team much like Simeone. And I really liked the way he communicated with his players, especially after they had that penalty denied. He immediately starting screaming at his players to focus and move forward. But, there was also a lot of backwards passing for the sake of it. I just honestly don't know if that's how he usually plays or if he did that against Barca in an attempt to keep the ball from them. But damn Messi is so good.

Sevilla finished 7th, not the worst league form.

Kevin, wait and see what happens. I'll take my hat off to you if it happens though!

"Not for me. Should be appointing a manager who has actually won a league title or at least come close to it. Unai is a tremendous cup manager. Is that what we need. Roberto did ok in the cups."

Steven S, sorry I forgot we frequently win so many titles that we do indeed need someone 'bigger' than a 'triple Eutopean trophy winner' And you're compating Emery to Martinez, are you MAD?

People seem to think we're Barca. To be honest we'll be lucky to atteact Steve Bruce (joke).

How about we try to go for Pep? He's won 'titles', that Emery fella is shite.

The commentators also stated the two Barca players at the back were Man of the Match candidates!!

Also, the guy's agent was rumoured to be in talks with Milan. He apparantly is not, and has not, been happy with Sevilla ownership for some time. In his press conference after the Final what the hell was he supposed to say about wanting to stay at Sevilla?

Judge him fairly, on the merits. If you do then right now de Boer lags behind in credentials. His four titles are even below Bruce Arena, who has won five MLS titles between two teams while developing (finally) such talents as Donovan, Beckham, Keane, De Jong, Van Damme, Cole, and Gerrard (personally, I doubt he will ever amount to much though) that others in the Belgian, Dutch, Irish, and English football worlds couldn't. (Humour intended).

Regarding Emery not wanting to leave Sevilla because of Champions League next segason, I don't think this will effect his decision, if we do approach him. He played champions league last season and finished third in the group, hence being bumped down to Europa League again. I think if he stayed at Sevilla, with a tight budget, he will probably end up performing the same in next seasons champions league.

The fact is that Everton, just like many other clubs in the Premier League, are very attractive to managers. We can pay top wages and give a sizeable transfer budget, and the league is the most televised on the planet. What better way for an ambitious young manager to showcase his talents, and to make themselves candidates for the (current) glamour clubs. After all, that's what Koeman (Aresnal) is doing with Southampton, and what Martinez (Barcelona) was trying to do with us.

An earlier post said that the next manager won't be the one to deliver champions league qualification, or a title, I tend to agree. But if we get an "Emery" or "de Boer" then in three of four years time we will be a better team, have a youthful squad, hopefully in the top four and be in a much better position to attract the "Mourinho's" and "Guardiola's" of the world.

So appointing a new guy now will not see him assessing our playing options unless it's from YouTube clips.

Personally I'm happy that the Club are taking their time to review the available candidates and interview them, if press reports are to be believed, rather than pick a name out of the hat.

Shows a bit of professionalism for a change.

I suspect he was forced to give up on him as the team were plainly not behind him.

This is so typical of Everton. Meanwhile, Man Utd had Jose waiting in the wings for months for their position to become vacant.

Seville – GA 50 GF 51
Ajax – GA 21 GF 80

No contest !

Tapping up managers whilst they are employed I am assumed is still frowned upon by the football heirarchy. Mourinho was not employed so Man Utd were free to approach him. As for Pellegrini, I am sure many clubs were alerted to his position and started a process!

Nice rant. But it's 'whose', not 'who's' ...

I remember well the issue over Sven-Göran Eriksson.

People are always getting names wrong here. Gravesen was perhaps an understandable error but you could've picked a pretty good starting XI of erroneous surnames (Lakaku up front, natch), and if De Boor wasn't available to manage them, perhaps bring back Moyles (that one I could never understand...)

Moshiri is a self-made billionaire; he will have the final say on who spends his money, so (for me) I will just trust his decision as he will have specialists advising him of who to employ.

Interesting point – but too simplistic to draw a conclusion.

Don't we have to take account of the respective standings of those clubs within their own leagues – not to mention the quality of the opposition?

Ajax are historically the major football club in the Netherlands. Their peers are PSV and Feyenoord. Nobody above those 3.

Sevilla are competing against two of the richest clubs in the world in a more competitive league.

This is not a 'knife to a gunfight' defence. But it is relevant when looking at the bare stats.

The Daily Mail – who are usually there or thereabouts – have us speaking to Pellegrini. Looks too much like an autopsy for me. If Usmanov is really coming, I think we should move mountains for Simeone.

Money talks... I hope Usmanov is packing his bags at Arsenal.

Two words of caution: Juande.....Ramos. Won two consecutive UEFA Cups with Sevilla, Copa del Rey, Spanish Super Cup, and finished 3rd in the La Liga.

Then he went to Spurs and look what happened....

Eric (#114)

"What's with all the rush to get a new manager in? What will it achieve? Most of the players are now off with their international squads preparing for the Euros, those that aren't are probably on a beach already.

So appointing a new guy now will not see him assessing our playing options unless it's from YouTube clips."

Are you joking? When a person gets a job there is often masses of preparatory work to be done before meeting the players. Relocating to start with. Plus getting to know his staff (Unsworth et al), his environment (Finch Farm & Goodison Park, etc), local geography, getting to know 'who is who' (Emery is hardly likely to know who Tom Davies is, is he?), meetings about finance and potential new recruits... The list is endless. You seem to think it's about casting an eye over the first team, there's far more to it than that for goodness sake! The sooner the better, I think.

Thomas (#117)

Answered my own question:

Seville – GA 50 GF 51
Ajax – GA 21 GF 80

No contest

Perhaps there are other 'factors' involved... standard of league?? And tell me what did Ajax win this season, Europa League? Oh no, sorry... that was, er... Sevilla. It'd be a bit like looking at the stats of a Celtic manager, FFS.

There are several stories in the Spanish media telling us how many the top players (Ronaldo, Messi ) scored against Sevilla

Yes he is currently playing in a three team league but EPL is a six team league (at least). Would 50 goals conceded be OK?

In EPL league placing is too important to neglect for cups, so no sacrificing league for Europa here.

Frying pan & fire comes to mind.

We need a tactically flexible, experienced disciplinarian to take over now. Koeman is the only man for me.

Where else is there for OFFM to go but back to Goodison Park? He's made it clear he wants the job. I fear that Kenwright might insist that Moshiri consent to his reappointment to make up for having to sack Martinez, which we know BK wouldn't have done given half a chance.

I can just picture a horse-trading scenario, where Moyes, being thick as thieves with our chairman, phoned Kenwright to say he'd be interested if the job became available. Who knows what sort of heart-on-his-sleeve emotional commitment Kenwright might have made to Moyes and himself to make up for having to relent on sacking Martinez?

Pure speculation, I know, but until we appoint a proven manager that isn't Moyes, I'm going to assume the worst. That way, if it does happen, I won't be quite so disappointed.

Anyway, I watched Emery's lot last night vs Barca and Weds vs the other shower. And I have to say I was quite impressed. Barca are ridiculously hard to play against and only these and Atletico have come anywhere near stopping them at the top of their game.

I also like this guy 'cos it sounds like he doesn't take any shite of lazy twats like Deulofeu, and would show them the door. However, if we were to go after Emery I would seriously be looking at bringing Monchi over with him. His work behind the scenes at Sevilla has been unbelievable, and the profits they've made on transfers quite incredible whilst maintaining success.

Get on with it, Everton!

"Emery is Martinez II. The last thing we need is a leaky defence - Sevilla conceded 45 the previous season too."

Did the goals conceded include the ones on the way to winnig his third European trophy on the run? 'Martinez Mk II' - compare their records ffs. What an idiotic statement.

Mark

"Where else is there for OFFM to go but back to Goodison Park? He's made it clear he wants the job."

Firstly just call him 'Moyes' ffs. So what you're saying is that because nobody else wants Moyes and he wants the job is that it means he'll get the job? Very clearly and rationally thought through there. I agree, I can definitely see Moyes coming back as wanting a job normally means you get it.

Can you honestly say you're 100% convinced Kenwright might not lead us back down that route? If so, I'll have some of your optimism medication please.

(I am not on any medication.....yet)

TUT!

That's right Iain, tempt fate.

Oh, please, please, no !

Me "Shall we do this?"
Boss "No"
Me "Ok"

Brian (#119) – can you stop writing for The Daily Mail. I hate that fucking rag.

If in 2 weeks time (and I pray that things don't take that long) TW is ablaze with the sheer delight at the quality of our new boss, then I'd not be invoicing L4 4EL for the bitten nails and sleepless nights.

Right now Everton's decision makers have possibly the best window of opportunity in decades.

Finance.
Fresh thinking.
Fresh impetus.
New manager.
New players.

Even if we do win something next season, we will have waited 22 years since our last chunk of silver, so a week or two more to secure the best manager and only the best manager ? I'd consider that a very important signal indeed.

Fingers crossed mate.

Moyes is not coming back.

#JustHireEmery

If true thats atrocious.

We've just had one manager who got us to two semi finals and yet we were horrible in the league.

It is 1 season, sure, could have been better, but (1) Sevilla is still 7th (2) excellent home record (3) remember the shiny cups? Some fans are desperate for any form of silverware and that would have brightened everyone up at least.

My main fear is that he would not be interested but if he even turn his head towards us, we should throw everything we've got at him, within reasonable terms of course.

Whoever the next guy is, I'm not expecting a miracle, a good improvement every year till we get to the top would be ideal. I would not want us to become a "hire or fire" club, just more ambitious and ruthless in determining our direction forward.

We haven't.
I haven't.
But, when we do, then I WILL !

I mean you would have a manager who brought success to a club who hadn't won the cup for over 100 years but he brought success. He will have quite an able team behind him. Couple that with Overmars who is said to be very astute in spotting talent and working well in the transfer market.

Mick 162, would be good to have Emery to make a statement of our ambitions. Many will say its for money but he's been smart so far in his career except for Moscow and will know that here, he has a better chance of winning bigger things.

Some of the fans are also favoring Delboy over Emery, but that will change when we start winning games.

Likely he's done his homework-that Koeman in 2008-09 left a mess of an almost bankrupt Valencia for Emery to clean up after him. Emery did this by developing the talented youth to succeed while selling off the likes of David Villla, David Silva, Roberto Soldado, and Juan Mata to reduce Valencia's massive debt. So what Unai Emery did for Valencia, its a cinch he can do for us.

Now I feel safe in knowing that whether it is Frank or Unai becomes next our manager-I'll thank Moshiri for it.

A Board votes by the number of Directors present (or with proxy) and is not determined by shareholding. However, Boards can be appointed by shareholders (at an AGM?) voting by shareholding and can therefore vote people onto the Board in order to control the Board.

Have we actually approached any one yet? As we aren't the only club looking to upgrade, the manager we want will soon be gone.

According to well known 'ITKs' on another forum, the board are going all out for him. Lets' see what develops this week as I think the new man will be installed by next weekend.

'ITK' people aren't always in the know. Case in point, the Echo mentioned in the midst of an article yesterday that Everton have already been in contact with FDB and talks are ongoing. They didn't say "according to The Mirror" or "according to rumors" they just reported it as fact. So given their geographically and historically close relationship with the club you'd assume it's true cause they are 'ITK.'

Meanwhile in the same timeframe FDBs brother who is presumably 'ITK' is saying there's been no contact while the club he's technically still employed by are suggesting he's going to Lazio.

On ToffeeWeb we've had self proclaimed 'ITK' sources tied to Finch Farm saying its Moyes while others say it's Capello. Who knows what's true but clearly they can't all be true or be 'ITK'.

Did you see the other big coaching news in the Daily Star? In their words "Nonce Johnson puts together perv 11." They have such a wonderful way with words.