De Boer 'would take Everton job' if offered

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The De Boer twins in their playing days for Ajax
Ronald de Boer says that his brother, Frank, is keen to talk to Everton about the managerial vacancy at Goodison Park.

The younger of the Dutch twins is leaving Ajax after six years in charge of the Dutch giants and is looking for his next opportunity, having been linked with roles in the Premier League before.

Having led Ajax to four successive Dutch titles, De Boer has been considered by Liverpool, Tottenham and Newcastle over the past couple of years but this is the first time he has been free to take any job offered to him.

Ronald says that his brother hasn't yet spoken with Everton but admits that Frank would jump at the chance to manage in England. A potential opening for him at Valencia has now been filled leaving the Toffees as the highest profile job available for De Boer to take his next managerial step.

“Frank is keen,” the elder De Boer told the Liverpool Echo. “If he has a chance to be in the Premier League, then he will want to take it.

“Everton are a big club and it would be a challenge, but I know for sure he would take the job if offered. But that's up to the management at Everton. He is probably on their list.

“He has to wait and see what the management does at the club, but I hope he will get the job.

“Frank is more than capable of managing at a club like Everton in the Premier League. As a player and a manager, he has enough experience. But he hasn't spoken to Everton.”

Elsewhere, a reported candidate for the Goodison hot-seat, Swiss coach Lucien Favre, has been unveiled as Nice's new manager, ruling him out of the running.


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Chris Watts
1 Posted 24/05/2016 at 16:55:16
So the club haven't spoken to him yet? That seems odd. De Boer sounds hungry, I like the fact he putting his hand up.
Daniel A Johnson
2 Posted 24/05/2016 at 16:59:45
He's still completing an over seas publicity tour with Ajax which he was contracted to do as manager of the club after the season finished.

Once thats done and dusted he's free to do what he wants which includes coming to Everton FC for an interview if short listed.

Daniel A Johnson
3 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:03:28
Would still prefer Koeman and I would take his lack of interest in the Everton job with a pinch of salt as I imagine he doesn't want to burn his bridges with his current employer. Plus Everton would have to ask permission to even talk to the guy as he is under contract.
Paul Kossoff
4 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:04:37
Silly season for us, seems every five minutes I look on here a new headline about a new manager.

I just showed the Koeman rumour to my son, I said to him this has just been put up, then I look again and here's another one. When will it all end?
Iain Latchford
5 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:04:47
Surely he's coming in for an interview at the very least?
Ian Burns
6 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:05:05
What on earth is this board doing? They haven't even approached one of the best candidates out there who has made it clear for some time he is available and wants to manage in the Premier League? I thought Moshiri would have been pro-active - it seems BK is hanging his tongue out for Moyes. Can somebody kick this board in the derriere and get this guy in whilst we still have some semblance of a reputation left!
Brent Stephens
7 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:07:29
Ian. Ur guessing!
James Watts
8 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:08:40
So they haven't spoken to Frank, but they've spoken to David ... oh gawd ...
Iain Latchford
10 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:11:06
The Ajax tour of China ended on the 19th. I'm hoping he's coming in for an interview later this week and is currently preparing for it. He'd probably want a few days to put everything together. These days it's not uncommon for people to do pretty snazzy presentations which can't be knocked up overnight.
Paul Kossoff
11 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:17:34
Hold on lads, De Boer is not the right man for us, says soccer luminary Ian Holloway!!! Apparently he told ' soccer luminary ' Alan Brazil that he is not sure De Boer is the right man for Everton, stating the reason as ' I'm not sure'. So that's that then.
Jackie Barry
13 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:33:45
Oh bloody hell, not Moyes, please for the love of....
Steve Bingham
14 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:33:49
Still not sure about this thread . I would prefer someone with experience in the premiership. However I suppose if he does get the job and this time next year we are looking forward to using our passports to support the boys then I for one will be shouting from the roof tops how great he is ! . Strewth I am that shallow I guess .
Jackie Barry
15 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:34:33
You mean like Moyes experience ?
Mike Mulhall
16 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:38:11
Frank seems a little too desperate for me, sort of like he is out on the pull and making it blatantly obvious he wants the girl so much that it puts her off
Duncan McDine
17 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:40:12
Well the bookies clearly have no inside knowledge after all... FdB has been massively fancied by them until this interview was published. Dropped from 1:2 on to 5:1 now. Pellegrini favourite now... Lets hope they've got that one wrong!
Jackie Barry
18 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:43:41
Well give me Pellegrini over Moyes any day of the week. Moyes is the worst nightmare possible scenario.
Andrew Lightfoot
19 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:44:33
Christ, a young, hungry manager with big name reputation. What are we waiting for?!
Rob Young
20 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:46:41
His brother is like Lukaku's dad.
Don't like it.
Robby Burns
21 Posted 24/05/2016 at 17:56:41
Please, please not Moyes
James Morgan
22 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:01:55
Colin Glassar wherever you may be,

You expected him here this week, does this still ring true?
I can't bear the thought of Moyes again!

Derek Turner
23 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:02:56
Thats just what I was thinking Rob.
Karl Meighan
24 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:06:15
Why are interviews needed surely talks are all it takes and the board should need no more than two targets and be confident enough to get there man and back him.

Lets hope De Boer don't end up at Watford and we get Moyes but would anyone be suprised.

Danny Broderick
25 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:24:40
Pellegrini is a pub team manager. We need much better than him.
Tony Draper
26 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:34:27
TBH I'd like any one from:
De Boer

None of them would leave me feeling disappointed, although the order of preference shifts according to what I happen to be reading at the time.

One candidate, however, does stand apart for me and just the sight of his name gets a fool blooded reaction from me:
david "Dreary MacDreary" Moyes

But with Kenwright still deep in bromance, I have this chilling feeling.........
Please, please, a BILLION times Farhad, exclude this most unambitious failure.

Colin Glassar
27 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:34:54
James, my short list is now down to FDB and Pellegrini. According to reports in Chile, Pellegrini wants to know how much he will get for transfers before he commits.

Out of the two, I'm more inclined towards FDB but as they say, ABM!!!

Richard Leeming-McHale
28 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:36:38
Looks like its happening, but still prefer Emery
Andrew Lightfoot
29 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:39:16
I imagine Ronald would be Frank's assistant, so I don't have a problem with him being the mouthpiece just now.
Nick Entwistle
30 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:39:21
Would take Moyes before FdB. I know no more about FdB than recent articles on this website, but in a league no stronger than the Scots Prem, he had accusations of non progression, and his European record is beyond woeful. May as well get Ronny Deila.

I see Bielsa's drifted and Flores has come up quickly.

Mark Ryan
31 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:39:39
Why does anybody feel it is worth mentioning our past manager as having a chance.? He has no chance of getting the job. No more than you or I. Moshiri is a businessman, not a Theatre impressario like BK who wears his heart on his sleeve. Even BK would not have Moyes back.

Everyone needs to just relax. We will get it right and FDB is the right man for us.
Mark Frere
32 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:43:44
Rob (20) - not really, FDB isn't contracted to any club, unlike Rom.
Colin Glassar
33 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:50:23
Danny, in what sense is Pellegrini a "pub team manager"? Did you ever see his Villarreal or Malaga teams play? Despite playing in a 12.000 cap stadium in a town of 50.000 people he put them, not only on the football map, but at the top of European football.

The football both teams played was sublime and innovative and they (Villareal) were worthy winners, Colina or not, when they played us. As for his time with City? Well league and cup winners which ain't bad for a "pub team manager". Yes, I know he had millions to spend but, unlike his previous clubs, he didn't choose which players city bought.

If, and it's a big if, Pellegrini takes over at Goodison rest assured that we will have an excellent manager who will do his talking on the pitch. Let the rs and the two manc teams have their sideline clowns, I'll be more than happy with our "pub team manager".

Minik Hansen
34 Posted 24/05/2016 at 18:57:19
I suspect it's in the bookies case, he isn't approached yet. The bookies need other candidates to make some money. Am I far off here? :)
Anto Byrne
35 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:02:05
With the special one going to United and a shopping list as long as your arm for players I can see that working out.

Be a few players with their noses out of joint. Great team harmony.

Colin Glassar
36 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:09:39
Oh, and I forgot Danny, he earned a historic points record with Real Madrid until Mourinho bettered it. So, he's worked with nobodies and galacticos and has been successful with both.
Colin Metcalfe
37 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:25:52
It's a toss up between Emery or FDB for me as for Pelllegrini I am really not sure , if a manager can't get his team up for a 2nd leg champions league semi final at Real Madrid then I really do doubt his motivational skills ! However on the flip side to that I remember many Leicster City fans and pundits being a bit " under whelmed " with the appointment of Ranieri last year .... Funny old game isn't it
Shane Corcoran
38 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:27:17
I hope it's De Boer mainly because I hope it's not Pellegrini, it won't be Koeman and I'd lose the will to live, figuratively speaking, if Moyes is appointed.
Dan Davies
39 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:29:21
I don't understand why some people are so against Pellegrini, he's a decent manager and a step up from previous managers we've had.

I find myself defending him but I'd be just as happy with De Boer or Emery, I just think some of the comments on here about him are quite disrespectful and unfair.

Ask yourself this- if Pellegrini is so shite, then why did 'moneybags' Man City give him their managers job in the first place?

I think we could do alot worse than Pellegrini.

Paul Hewitt
40 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:30:12
Offer the guy the job, he wants it so just get on with it.
Joe O'Brien
41 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:31:29
There's no panic I don't think. He'll get his interview. Going by the media they have been interviewing candidates, prob one a day, so if think he'll be talked to this week. As it was pointed out he's just finished with ajax so prob wasn't a chance till now. I'd be happy with koeman ,Emery de Bore in that order. Pellegrini no for me and no point mentioning any others. All the rest a big no from me
Tony Abrahams
42 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:33:41
Exactly Minik.
Andy Crooks
43 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:33:45
Shane, if Moyes is appointed I will not be responsible for my actions. In fact, I can see the comments of my friends and neighbours. " No one ever imagined that he was capable of such a thing," "He kept himself to himself," Something most have driven him over the edge,"
Paul Tran
44 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:44:30
Thing about all this is I'm getting the impression we're doing things properly. No words spoken, then Martinez is sacked. I suspect nothing will be said until the next manager is unveiled. I like it that way. I don't need an official commentary every day, just a proper process, a well informed decision and significant financial support for the new man. Leave all the speculation to the media and bookies.

Andy Crooks
45 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:44:49
Joe,if Everton have been inteviewing a candidate a day I will be astonished. It wouldn't surprise me if Royle, Unsworth started the season. It would be cheap and the " the Everton way," I know we all hope and expect Mr Moshiri to throw money at us but there is no evidence yet that it is going to happen.
Don Alexander
47 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:55:18
The board have to look at the squad, a squad full of non-leaders, and then decide who they want to trust as manager. If they do the right thing and make it plain that the usual suspects; Hibbo, Pienaar, McGeady and many of the other peripherals are definitely not going to be here next season they need to authorise the new boss to replace them as soon as possible pre pre-season, and I don't mean with like-for-like either. I mean with quality, young, ambitious and hard-nosed. That might just persuade some of our younger talent, and I include Tom Davies among them these days, to stay for another season.

And that might encourage one or two expensive players to then sign up.

So, as I've said before, the board (and please God Mr Moshiri really does have football nouse) need to get the right manager. The next 20 years could be dependent on it, unlike when the Catalan Clown was appointed.

Daniel A Johnson
48 Posted 24/05/2016 at 19:59:01
The lack of movement does suggest that the sacking of Martinez wasn't planned and was a spur of the moment thing and has caught the board on the back foot.

If Watford and Liverpool can get their man in quick why are we stalling?

With so many of our players looking away it would be good to send them to the Euros with the knowledge of who's in charge.

I believe the club don't have a clue who they want. Hence the Moyes could very well happen.

Kev Johnson
50 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:00:50
I'll say this , if that bastard of a board even consider taking Moyes back, that's it for me. The Mancs will have the 2 best managers in world football. Is it me, or does suspicion arise when he knocks Villa into touch? Is he waiting for something? Don't go back Everton, only forward !
Helen Mallon
51 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:09:25
If Moyes is taken back as manager I will not go the game again.
Aidy Dews
52 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:13:12
Pellegrini a pub team manager? Jesus Christ! He's a good manager and we'd be stupid not to be keen.

Frank de Boer as always been my first choice and I don't mind Koeman or Emery either and if it was one from those four then I'd be more than happy and positive that one of these would be able to kick us on.

Vinny Garstrokes
53 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:16:38
I was listening to Paddy Power on talksport on the way home this evening and he said that Steve Bruce was shorter odds that Moyes!
Barry McNally
54 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:18:52
He used to manage Real Madrid, not Real Ale Madrid!
Mark Ryan
55 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:27:10
Blind will leave Utd after him saying in his post FA Cup interview that he wanted LVG to stay. Maureen won't like that. Mata will be gone and we'll lose Stones. Straight swap for the pair of them ....and we'll have FDB.
David Benson
56 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:28:21
I would be happy with FDB, Koeman, Emery. We need a guy who best meets all of these requirements:

1) gets the team to be more than the sum of the parts (which to be fair Moyes always did),
2) has the immediate respect of the players,
3) can attract new players,
4) buys well,
5) gives youth a chance
6) brings a good coaching team
7) is a winner

FDB and Koeman would attract new players with their reputation as players, Koeman has bought OK at saints but questionable earlier career, not sure about FDB. both have brought in young players, FDB probably edges it here. If FDB brought Bergkamp and/or Stam I imagine Barkley/Stones/Lukaku would possibly stay longer.

Added to that his obvious enthusiasm for the job, it's FDB for me. Proven winner as player and manager, and he turned down the neighbours.

Paul Setter
57 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:42:08
I've got a funny feeling that dour Dave will be next man in charge. I've thought it since he pulled himself out of the running from Villa.
Kieran Kinsella
58 Posted 24/05/2016 at 21:44:45
Nothing like a little hyperbole to get ToffeeWeb going. If Pelligrini is a pub team manager what is Neil Warnock?

I'm of the same opinion as Paul Tran that we should wait and see. Nothing was said about RM despite all kinds of hysteria on here but he was sacked. I'd rather do things quietly than be like Man UTD and have our new manager find out he got the job when his wife reads it in the paper.

Chris Corn
59 Posted 24/05/2016 at 22:07:45
Love the way people expect the club to give them daily updates on the manager situation then start acting like lemmings because we haven't appointed anyone yet. The season still isn't over.
Ernie Baywood
60 Posted 24/05/2016 at 22:11:39
I think we underestimate the value in someone actually wanting the opportunity.

Let's get him in.

Barry McNally
61 Posted 24/05/2016 at 22:31:49
In Pellegrini's one season at the Bernabeu he had the highest ever points tally at the club... although they lost out to Barcelona for the title.
Bob Heyward
62 Posted 24/05/2016 at 22:41:58
Nearly three weeks since we moved to end Martinez's reign...and still NOTHING.

It took Manchester United 48-hours to sack Van Gal, and start negotiating Mourinho's contract. So, sound preparation and planning sees United ensuring minimal leadership vacuum. As a case study in how to replace a manager who was obviously going for months, top marks to United.

What about us and our replacement of a manager who – for months – was obviously on the way out? Well, nearly three-weeks later after he was potted, we still have no appointment. Just 'short lists' and a power vacuum. Great. It's the exact opposite of United.

What on earth was going on in the Board room these past months? Is 'succession planning' a mystery to our leaders?

The overall result? Well, right now a certain Portuguese manager is well ahead on his planning for raiding our squad of one, perhaps two players. And us? Well, we're finalising the short list before interviews commence. Maybe Jimmy Martin can spare an hour to convince Stones, Seamus, Ross' and Rom of our exciting plans for the future.

It's starting to become a bloody scandal.

Eric Holland
63 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:02:18
Chris, "The season still isn't over"

Yes it is!!!

Ian Jones
64 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:05:45

Oh no it isn't. Technically still the Champions League final. :) so all eyes on Zidane and Simeone. They are up for interview next week.

Martin Faulkner
65 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:27:21
Can we please stop comparing the Dutch league to the Scottish league?
Here are some facts:

Dutch Uefa Coefficient: 35.5
Scottish Uefa Coefficient: 17.3
Dutch TV Deal €63m per year
Scottish TV Deal €15m per year

The Scottish league is far inferior to the Dutch league in terms of Uefa standings and Revenue, that is a fact. It could also be argued that the Dutch league is miles ahead of Scotland in terms of Tactics, Technical ability of players & youth player development.

My 2 cents, FDB would be a good choice as would Koeman, Emery or even Pellegrini. Just please not a return to Moyes KITAP1.

David Edwards
66 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:27:52
David #56 – Well said... My view too. I think the enthusiasm FDB has for Everton (although I'm cynical enough to see it is the best job on offer around Europe at present for him, if PSG is not in the equation) is a definite plus. He is keen to do well in the EPL and that's worth something.

He edges Koeman and while Emery looks great, the away form in La Liga worries me, albeit slightly. Pellegrini would not be a disaster – but is fourth on my list. Moyes – I wish him all the best, but no thanks, and as for Hughes, O'Neill, Howe etc... Well, we need to realise that we are moving forward with new investment, and we can aim higher than we might have done a few years ago.

As for Benitez (or the FSW) – never in a million years, despite his obvious ability). The 'small club' comment has a real mistake on his part – and sadly one he cannot return from.

FDB for me - sure it is a risk - but let's give it a bit of 'Carpe Diem' to go with our NSNO!

Stephen Ashton
67 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:38:28
Lucien Favre has gone to Nice.

Need to sort this out quickly before the genuine talent has been snapped up and we are left with a choice between Moyes, Howe, Hughes and Dyche.

Stephen Ashton
68 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:44:13
Koeman signed a new two year deal at Southampton. On the plus side Valencia have appointed Neville's assistant, not Phil.
Andy Crooks
69 Posted 24/05/2016 at 23:47:49
Chris (#59), I haven't seen a post with any Evertonian expecting an update nor any lemming-like nonsense. Just people giving opinions. The season is over for most Evertonians.

By the way, WHEN do you think appointing a manager might be important?

Tony Draper
70 Posted 24/05/2016 at 00:01:14
Dear Frank de Boer,

Quick tip. When you ring up Everton, just ask "Is Mr Kenwright available?". If they say "Yes", just say "That's fine, I'll call back later, thanks."

Gavin Wadeson
71 Posted 25/05/2016 at 01:03:17
It is crazy that people are slating Pellegrini...

He won the Premier League!

John Critchley
72 Posted 25/05/2016 at 01:32:21
In the words of Frankie Howerd (to Moyes coming back) "Nay, Nay and thrice Nay" watched my 1st game in 1976 and if he came back then never again would I set foot in the old girl till he'd left, backward step big time!
Alan J Thompson
74 Posted 25/05/2016 at 04:20:44
I'd support Everton regardless of who is appointed manager but I would hope that the proper KPI's are written into the contract and particularly those concerning termination.

When is Champions League Final as I'm still hoping, as delusional as I am, for Simeone, there has to be some reason for the delay.

As for De Boer, would someone advise our Board about e-mails, texts and Agents as it won't matter if he's in Holland, China or the South Pole. Unless of course we're using the "stop at a winner" system, in which case those interviewed can be ruled out and those who've found other employment have ruled themselves out.
Eric Myles
75 Posted 25/05/2016 at 04:50:37
Bob #62, I was thinking the exact opposite about Utd. They've had months to talk to Jose and still haven't sorted anything.
Helen Mallon
76 Posted 25/05/2016 at 05:35:34
Please not Moyes
Phil Jeffries
77 Posted 25/05/2016 at 07:04:19
There are 2 things that are nailed on so far and that De Boer wants the job (yet to be interviewed) and Mourinho is no longer in the running. Everything else is guess work. The press are as much in the dark as we are. Likelihood truth is that Pelligrini has been interviewed and Koeman will probably stay at Southampton. Rumours regarding Moyes, Emery and evry other manager are totally pub talk. The club are taking their time on what will be a crucial appointment. I am only this calm because Moshiri will decide the appointment, not Kenwright. If BK was in charge, Moyes probably would have already been in the hot seat. Is he even being interviewed? NOBODY KNOWS!!!!!! So let's just wait and see. De Boer, Pelligrini, Emery or Koeman are all vast improvements on Martinez and all better managers than Moyes. Let's see who we get. There may yet be a twist... and no-one has even mentioned LVG yet. Only mentioning it as he is the only manager without a job yet to be linked! COYB
Phil Jeffries
78 Posted 25/05/2016 at 07:11:44
Reason to settle down and trust Moshiri;

2013 odds for next manager - BK majority SH
Martinez 7/4
Lennon 3/1
Neville 6/1
Mackay 8/1

2016 odds for next manager - FM majority SH
Pellegrini 7/4
Emery 5/2
De Boer 4/1
Koeman 5/1

With the ground move now looking likely thanks for Moshiri's guidance and business knowledge, I feel that he will choose wisely. Especially with the fact that his Everton 'business' venture needs a manager who can be trusted with the keys to his war chest. In Moshiri we trust.

Gary Ashworth
79 Posted 25/05/2016 at 07:33:33
Looking at the list of candidates rumoured to have been linked to the vacancy.

In the "No, not for me" category:
David Moyes, Eddie Howe, Mark Hughes, Andre Villas-Boas, Sean Dyche, Alan Stubbs, Martin O'Neill, Quique Sanchez Flores

In the "Aiming high" category:
Jose Mourinho, Ronald Koeman, Unai Emery

In the "I believe to be fictitious media rumours" category:
Marcelo Biesla, Jurgen Klinsmann, Roberto Mancini, Michael Laudrup, Joachim Low, Mark Warburton, Rafa Benitez

In the "Likely candidates because they're currently available" category:
Manuel Pellegrini, Frank de Boer

The wild card
Lucien Favre

I do believe Ronald Koeman was top on the list, but unless there's problems behind the scenes at Southampton, I can't see him leaving the club. Unai Emery has an impressive record, but only really with Sevilla, which if you take away the Europa League it's not that impressive. I liked the idea of believing Jose Mourinho was a vlid option, as it gave me the feeling the club was aiming high for once.

Stuart Mitchell
80 Posted 25/05/2016 at 07:55:13
Lucien Farve gone to Nice, so can cross him off the list.

Frank de Boer really seems to want the job, I think we should give him a shot.

James Welford
81 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:02:52
De Boer for me. Young, hungry, wants the job

Or Korean. But I prefer to see De Boer come over and being his Dutch colleagues.

Pellegrini... Too old, wants to stay in the northwest. Is that a reason to employ someone?

Go Dutch or Unsy for me. ABM.

Eddie Dunn
82 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:03:41
Pellegrini has a wealth of experience and as Colin said, he had Valencia and Villarreal playing some marvellous football.
It would not be quite so exciting to appoint him rather than a new kid on the block like DB, but with his know how it would be the safe option.
Pellegrini knows the Premier League, is aware of football matters in Latin America, and has a proven track record in Spain.
DB has done well in the Eredivisie but what does that mean?
Iain Latchford
83 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:32:04
It looks like Koeman and Emery will be staying put, so as far I can see it's a race between De Boer, Pellegrini and, dare I say it, Moyes.

Moshiri will be aware that Moyes isn't a popular choice so I think that rules him out. I'm warming to the idea of Pellegrini. I'm hoping that when Ronald de Boer said that his brother hadn't spoken to Everton he meant that he hadn't been interviewed yet, rather than we hadn't made any contact at all. That would be worrying.

Thomas Surgenor
84 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:45:59
The biggest positive I've taken out of the last few days is that the Valencia vacancy is now filled.

This means we are the highest profile job available (assuming Jose to Utd is a done deal). We now hold all the cards!
Instead of begging a manager to come to us, we should now see a few cvs begging us to give them the job.

We can now pick and choose.

Erik Dols
85 Posted 25/05/2016 at 08:48:10
Gary Asworth (79) I see were you're coming from but just like to add that Emery not only had an impressive record at Sevilla. Sorry to be pedantic.

Before Sevilla, he finished 3rd back to back with Valencia, despite his best players (Villa and Silva) being sold. Before Valencia, he was at Almeria, which he managed to get in to the Primera Division for the first time in their existence and in their first season, finished 8th, their highest ranking as to date. And before that, he managed tiny club Lorca, with whom he gained promotion to the second highest league for the first time in their history and the next season, they finished 5th, their highest ranking ever.

He has done exceptionally well at every club he managed. But all these clubs are in Spain, and that's the risk. To add on this, I am omitting his only period outside Spain, which was at Spartak Moscow. He was fired there within months because they were mid-table... And to be fair on him, Spartak never pulled back since then and are a mid-table team, so it is questionable if this was his fault anyway.

Brin Williams
87 Posted 25/05/2016 at 09:45:08
MR 55 - 'Blind will leave Utd after him saying in his post FA Cup interview that he wanted LVG to stay.'

I would like to see Blind at Everton but aren't you being a bit short sighted thinking he will leave MU.?

Lennart Hylën
88 Posted 25/05/2016 at 10:36:16
Go for Manuel Pellegrini. He has a proven track record, win rate 51.7%. He won the League with Man City and two League Cups. Not a bad record during 3 years. I think he has got more experience than Frank de Boer.
Kim Vivian
89 Posted 25/05/2016 at 10:39:08
Thomas - we won't do any begging or get anyone '...begging us to give them the job...'

A professional application from , or indeed approach to, the right credible person will do nicely, thank you.

(Simeone next week anyone?)

Iain Latchford
90 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:04:37
The only way Simeone is coming to Everton is if we're about to announce something huge like Usmanov coming on board, new stadium, £200+ to spend on players etc.

Unlikely, but I'm trying to be optimistic.

"Nothing will be the same" ?

Martin Swindley
91 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:08:15
It's a one horse race.... De Boer!

Always has been and it was never going to be anyone else! Only delay was his end of season trip to China with Ajax.

Rumours have it he is in London with his brother finalising things.

Brian Harrison
92 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:16:13
Seems like the list of possible managers is shrinking by the day, Emery is staying at Sevilla, and its reported this morning that Koeman is about to sign a 2 year deal to stay at Southampton.
So it looks as if its between FDB or Pellegrini or Moyes.

Well I certainly don't want Pellegrini with his hang dog look and his droning voice. He had unlimited money at City and Mancini had left him with his 2 best players Aguero and Silva. He managed to win the league with the last kick of the season and this year got into 4th place on goal difference. He would probably bring with him Demichelis to replace Stones and his trusty winger no goal Navas.
So its either FDB or Moyes, and I know its massively unpopular but I would choose Moyes all day long. I always say never go back but if we are left with the choice of the 3 I have mentioned then I would have him back.

Bobby Thomas
93 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:24:37
Can people stop mentioning Simeone?


Kim Vivian
94 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:27:04
Shame that "no goal Navas" contributed to our semi-final loss with a goal though!
Nigel Gregson
95 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:27:24
Why has no one mentioned Louis Van Gaal as a contender yet ? He'll be available, has a winning mentality and pedigree.
Sean Lennon
96 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:29:16
Colin Glassar has nailed it for me. I don't see the animosity towards Pellegrini, his record is there for all to see; believe it or not he was a manager before City. The only issue I can see is that he's not a "young and vibrant" guy to lead this new revolution at our beloved Everton.

Well, think back to the pivotal week of the derby and semi-final, and think how much that hurt! Back then, we would have had literally anybody else.

I do like the idea of FdB because he seems to have an energy about him that I think we didn't have under our last manager (not difficult, I guess). People are saying that he has no Premier League experience which is a good point, but spin that round – a different approach could be what we need. Last season we were so obvious in our "Premier League" ways, it was frightening.

For me, either of those two would bring very different managerial styles to Everton and I'd be happy with either. Lets not mention Mr Moyes just yet though, right... right?!?

Brian Harrison
97 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:37:46
Kim 94

I think Navas has scored 4 in 99 games.

Iain Latchford
98 Posted 25/05/2016 at 11:58:18
Ajax have now appointed a new manager. No mention of whether Bergkamp or Stam will stay as assistants or not.
Kim Vivian
99 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:02:59
Typical though, isn't it? That was my drift, Brian.
Mike Hughes
100 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:08:47
It's all speculation and nonsense at the moment.
So - just to add to it (:)) - I see that Jose Mourinho is still not officially the Man U manager yet.

Maybe this is because we secretly have spoken to him.

We've offered him big money and transfer funds; shown him the plans for our shiny new dockside arena and the new pie and pint half time offer.

He realises that we are a sleeping giant and also have a 100% winning record in European finals (unlike some - snigger).

Man Utd's offer just isn't doing it for him by comparison ...

Right now, he's scratching his chin, weighing all this up in the OT boardroom and the thought running through his head is, and the Blues are a better class of fan as well. I can't stand Mancs. Scuffy, ugly, gets. I think it is clear, Jose, that the future is bright and blue. I'll look good in that new kit. Of course, I'll look good in any kit but...

Kev Nulty
101 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:24:42
Whoever it is... don't give him a bleeding 5-year contract until they have properly earnt it!
Phil Martin
102 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:30:38
I think, while this next appointment is crucial for the club, I don't believe this appointment necessarily has to be the man to stick with us for the next 10 years.

The days of managerial dynasties are all but gone. IF we get someone who wins us a trophy or two over the next 4-5 years and leaves us as Champions Leeague qualifiers (at least once), then that would be an unequivocal success. It would also leave us in a far better position to find his successor who may be younger, but also (and more crucially) out of our reach currently. Who knows... by then we may be able to attract the likes of Simeone and Mourinho.

With that in mind, I don't have a problem with Pellegrini. His record with clubs operating below elite level is exceptional (domestically and in Europe). He also has Premier League winning experience. I think he could be the "safest" bet and an excellent choice of manager to begin the rebuilding job.

James Stewart
103 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:40:08
I have concerns with the Dutch candidates:

De Boer, big gamble, he's won nothing during the last 2 years with the biggest team in one of the weakest leagues in Europe. Hardly inspiring stuff. Similarities to Martinez's possession style are also a big red flag.

Koeman, a mixed bag, touted for bigger things but then so was Martinez not so long ago and look how that turned out. Europa finish with Southampton yet won nothing. How is that any improvement on Moyes's achievements with us? His team were also taken apart by us under Martinez early in the season and even in the return fixture they could not beat us when we were in mutinous free fall. The question should be is Koeman really good enough for us not the other way round!

So what does that leave you with? Well in my opinion we want a proven winner and if you look at Mancini and Pellegrini they have the 4th and 5th best win ratio in the EPL, behind only Sir Alex, Mourinho and Ancelotti. That cannot be ignored, Mancini would be my preference but Pellegrini is a good option with Bielsa an exciting wildcard.

Denis Richardson
104 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:48:04
James 103, to be fair anyone we put in will be a gamble. However, I'd rather someone who as played at the top level and won things as a manager, all be it in the Netherlands.

I'd take that anyday to another Martinez or Moyes type appointment whereby we're basically allowing them to train as a manager and neither played at the top level under some of the games best managers. Someone like FdB and Koeman would also immediately raise the profile of the club and command respect from the players.

Whether it works or not is one for the future but I want us to at least appoint a 'Name' in footballing terms and make a statement that we're serious about moving forward rather than just staying in the league and maybe scratching the EL places.

Andrew Clare
105 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:50:52
I see Andy Gray is touting Moyes for the job, saying that he had a fantastic 11 years at the club.

Is he kidding? People have a low opinion of our club. I was going to say ex-players but then I realised that I'm talking about Andy Gray. He is an exception and shouldn't be counted. It is sad though that people look at us and think, Well, Moyes would be a good choice because he could get us into 6th place."

Kenwright and his low ceiling has really brought us down.

Iain Latchford
106 Posted 25/05/2016 at 12:56:15
Early bird season ticket offer ends at midnight tonight. Expect Moyes to be appointed tomorrow.

(Is there a cooling-off period?)

Roberto Granelli
107 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:07:50
You just have to look at the Champions League semi-final, to see the reason why Pellegrini would be the wrong choice. Man City produced a timid, unconvincing performance, that reminded me of the way Moyes would have approached it.

He didn't really produce enough in his time at City with the resources available and clearly is in the Martinez school of poor defence management.

Sean Lennon
108 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:27:08
Roberto @107 I think with regards to the Champions League Semi Final display, it could have been "one of those games" or think about it, Pellegrini already knows he's out of a job, so motivation for himself and the dressing room is naturally going to be lower, ive a few City fan friends and they have pointed out that the fortune of City falling off coincides with the Guardiola announcement.

I will say this though oh how I would love to be writing about Everton and Champions League Semi Finals.

Terry McLavey
109 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:31:26
At least they think we're a big club, that's got to be a plus!

We need someone that wants to make us bigger and return us to our rightful place. Perhaps he's the one?

Phil Martin
110 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:34:36

City lost to Real, arguably the 2nd best team in the world. Hardly a hanging offence. Plus how many Champions League semi-finals has Moyes ever reached?

Mike Moore
111 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:34:47
I've got a sickly feeling about Moyes... he's turned down the Villa job, surely he was asked about the Celtic job but obviously didn't fancy the gig, is he waiting for Everton??? God I hope not!
Jackie Barry
112 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:37:56
Dang, the Premier League and two Football league cups, I wouldn't mind Pellegrini bringing that to our oh so recently successful club! I wouldn't mind De Boer either. What I don't understand is why anybody would like to have Moyes back?
Sean Lennon
113 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:48:45
In the interest of discussion, and putting to one side the way Moyes left, Moyes stabilised Everton, brought players we hold in high regard now, all with a £4M budget, isn't there a case for "imagine what he could do with this squad and a transfer budget"?

I'll be hiding behind my office chair, and in the interest of full disclosure I'm for FdB or Pellegrini.

Mark Cooper
114 Posted 25/05/2016 at 13:53:09
Talksport banging the Moyes drum all day, nearly wiped out my car shouting at the radio listening to Phil Neville. I am reaching the point where anybody but that twat, please.
Dan Davies
115 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:00:37
Phil@102, I was thinking along the same lines, we could use Pellegrini to bring in a better class of player and get us challenging near the top of the table.

Throw in a cup to keep us fans happy, a few eyebrow raising signings to get the club a higher profile across Europe and then say three years later we might be a better proposition to the elite managers.

Saying that if Moshiri springs Simeone on us, out of the blue, I'd be over the moon ha ha! All former managers need not apply. No offence Joe Royle!

Kieran Kinsella
116 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:03:05
Moyes is a mechanic not an engineer. He can rig up a lemon he can't build a Ferrari. He spent a tonne at Sociedad on duds. He took Man Utd from 1st to 8th.

Look at his big-money signings at Everton: Bily, Wright (shame it wasn't Billy Wright), Beattie. Yak and Johnson started okay until he turned them into wingers. Heitinga, a CB on huge wages, played at RB or CM.

James Marshall
117 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:04:34
I still can't get my head round all the talk of Koeman, Emery and Favre – all 3 have jobs already, yet De Boer is the one who doesn't have a job at the moment (or won't very soon once his final commitments to Ajax are done) so surely he's the outright favourite along with Pellegrini and (heaven forbid) Davey Moyes.

Personally I think the Moyes talk is a nonsense, that will never happen as long as Moshiri is around – despite Bill.

Also reading about Giggs this morning too – really?

As for the gripe about no Premier League experience – so what? It's still 22 blokes kicking a football about.

Kieran Kinsella
118 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:06:38
Moyes is like the mingling girlfriend who dumps you at High School when you've a part time job at Tescos and runs off with another lad cause he works at M&S then you win the lotto and she comes crawling back.
Phil Jeffries
119 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:07:54
I think Pelligrini is being remembered only for what he did at City. This guy have won titles in 4 different countries and managed River Plate, Real Madrid, Villareal and Malaga. At the last (lesser) two on that list he still had them finishing in CL places. Moyes can't even get close to this guy. Either Pelligrini or De Boer for me, if Emery is now out of the running.
Kunal Desai
120 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:10:21
Just my hunch, but I think De Boer will be installed as our manager just before the Euro's kick off.
James Marshall
121 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:11:56
Having just read a bit more on this thread - people seem to have quite curious reasons for not wanting certain managers, one of which was even the way Pellegrini speaks as a reason for him not being the manager.

As Phil says above, it's surely a 2-horse race between Pellegrini and de Boer now - and I'll be happy with either.

Mark Cooper
122 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:16:06
So you won the lottery Kieran #118, any chance of a loan to repair my car?
Also have you got that minging birds number? ....hold on though, she doesn't look like Moyes does she?
Kieran Kinsella
123 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:25:15
Worse than Moyes Mark
Kieran Kinsella
124 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:26:46
Now the Guardian have Giggs as our mgr
Denis Richardson
126 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:29:00
Sean 113 - I point you to exhibit A: 10 months as Man Utd manager.

(Moyes also broke our transfer record 3 times so he didn't exactly have pennies to spend, whilst himself being paid £4m a year during his last 5 years with us!)

Shane Corcoran
127 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:38:10
Kieran, read the article rather than the headline.
David Barks
128 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:39:14

There are plenty of valid complaints about Moyes. But trying to say he had money to spend, sorry, no. The financial situation of the club during his tenure was completely different from today and he was not given money to spend.

Tony Draper
129 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:42:35
Kieran @124
NO "The Guardian", has not listed Giggs as the next Everton manager, infact, the article is –a bloody good laugh at crap journo's.

Have a look here:

Sean Lennon
131 Posted 25/05/2016 at 14:52:10
Denis I think your exhibit A: is literally a different playing field and as David @128 says, the financial situation is hugely different now.

Appointing Moyes would be a huge step back, however, I guess I remember Moyes tenure in charge a little different to those that see it as a huge disaster.

Jason Broome
133 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:13:05
James Marshall @ 121

I agree, and why are we so slow in everything we do at board level? Koeman, Emery... Why are we chasing ghosts?

We knew that Martinez was gone months ago so why are we only now 'comparing the'

And why have the club not squashed the Moyes rumours. Moyes had a lot of money, high profile players and the Champions League... and failed miserably at United! He chokes when forced to play big so why entertain his dithering ego when we have an opportunity to 'play big!'

Pellegrini is a world class manager who has won the Premiership, among other trophies but some would have you believe that he isn't good enough because his hair is grey!? or He couldn't overcome Real Madrid in the Champions League semi final so he isn't good enough for us... really?

City murdered us in the League cup, qualified for the Champions League reached the semi final in said cup and would have won the Premiership had the manager not been compromised by his board.

Pellegrini is up there with the best and his history is rich. He is a major step up for a team seen by many to be living in the (30 year) distant past.

Pellegrini is settled, has a reason to prove a point, likely to stay loyal and capable of taking us 'ALL THE WAY!' Why is this so hard!?

Transfer activity has started. High profile players and managers have other high profile offers. We need to get a move on and install him or a like for like before opportunities are lost.

Mark Cooper
134 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:19:20
I think I'll give her a miss then Kieran, thanks. Back to PoF for me HaHa.
Kev Nulty
135 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:23:30
We could do a lot worse than Moyes; he looked proper gutted after the derby debacle... maybe we should give him and Rhino a chance.
Patrick Murphy
136 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:26:21
Jason (133) As far as I'm aware nobody at Everton FC has confirmed or denied anything about a potential manager, whether it be Moyes or anyone else. The journalists are having a field day because they know about as much of what is happening as we do. I don't see SSN even mentioning potential Everton managers. The written media however are having fun, linking names with the vacancy and then writing headlines such as XYZ snubs Everton FC when in fact we don't even know whether the club are actually looking at those managers. The summer transfer window doesn't officially open until July 1st, but obviously that doesn't mean that players won't agree deals with new clubs before that date.

I agree it's frustrating having to wait for news and how I long for the days when we could put the ball away for a few weeks during the close-season.

Brian Wilkinson
137 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:38:02
We need to bring Milik in before we get screwed by Ajax if fdb is our next manager.
Jay Woods
138 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:43:50
Jason Broome, Pellegrini is world class? Since when? Did you watch City's pathetic display away to Real Madrid a few weeks ago?

For me, not wanting him has nothing to do with this age. It's to do with his abilities, which certainly fall far below "world class".

Jackie Barry
139 Posted 25/05/2016 at 15:52:10
Wow based on one game.
Mark Murphy
140 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:02:04
"The younger of the Dutch twins"??? How's that work then??

Btw – I hope we sign him and soon before he gets the hump at our indecision seeing as how he has made it clear he wants to join.

Dave Abrahams
141 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:08:15
Mike (111), Moyes gives nearly everyone a sickly feeling.
Jason Broome
142 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:13:04
Jay Woods @138.

All due respect, but you just confirmed my post.

and I quote from earlier...

"He couldn't overcome Real Madrid in the Champions League semi final so he isn't good enough for us... really?"

Silly comments of people not doing any research or not even reading posts before commenting.

Now I guess you are about to go away and read up on something, so that you can write up on something to justify the silly post.

Personally I wouldn't bother, but... over to you.

Tony Draper
144 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:24:13
Jay @138
Let it go mate. Just take a breath, walk away and learn from your defeat. Otherwise, you're emulating our recently dismissed manager.
Alan Holman
145 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:32:09
Phil Neville has just said this "It's time for me to leave Valencia and grab hold of other opportunities that are going to come my way. I wonder if he will be rejoining Moyes, to reappraise there roles as the dynamic duo.
Iain Latchford
146 Posted 25/05/2016 at 16:59:48
Giggs, Neville etc could well end up at Villa or Derby. They're not coming to Everton I'm sure of that and neither is Moyes.
Linda Morrison
147 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:08:56
I think this is just dragging on too long, before we know it players will be off to the Euros. The new manager will have a lot to do in a very short time, players are already being lined up by other clubs and as usual EFC are stagnating.

As for Koeman, even if he deemed to come to EFC it would not be for long as he wants to go abroad.

I think it will be De Boer, he has expressed an interest and is keen.
Failing that Unsworth and Joe Royle for the first season.

Ian Burns
148 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:08:57
Don't like what is happening out there!!

Neville leaving Valencia; Moyes turning down the Villa job and not wanting the Celtic job. Each of our fancied managers (at least on TW) are slowly being taken up; Favre (Nice); Emery staying; Koeman staying; Mourinho going head to head with Chelsea for Stones; Chelsea refusing to give into EFC's asking price of £65m for Rom – we are slipping down the pecking order here.

Players are already being touted about and we still do not have a manager – not even a "solid rumour" if there is such a thing! Getting worried now in case it is Moyes...

I might just go over to Holland, pick up De Boer and stick him in front of Kenwright & Moshiri – "He wants the fucking job, give it to him"!

Paranoia – me? No chance.

Linda Morrison
149 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:12:35
Ian, you've made me laugh at that post. Don't worry – it won't be up to Kenwright or Martinez would still be in charge!
Frank Crewe
150 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:13:58
As far as I can see all that's happened so far is that the managers we have been linked with have all got longer contracts and pay rises. Glad to see someone is doing well.
Daniel A Johnson
151 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:16:38
Pellegrini is a proven Premier League title winner and a Champions League Semi-Finalist. His CV blows Frank de Boer's Dutch record out of the water, yet no-one seems to want him.

I think he did very well with the way he handled things and kept Man City in the top 4 and the Champions League Semi-Final considering he was told he was being replaced at the start of the season and therefore had no real authority over the players any more. He also beat Klopp at Wembley, don't forget, in the Cup Final.

He's based in the area and is available / out of contract. It's a no-brainer for me. Koeman doesn't want to come, and De Boer is a risk.

Underneath the calm grey exterior of Pellgrini is a bloody good manager.

James Hughes
152 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:49:52
Jason @142. Your post was not confirmed by Jay and your earlier post was just opinion not fact. You need to back those claims up.

I would take exception to:

Citeh murdered us in the semi-final, at the time time everyone was giving us a beating. – Did you watch the Real Madrid Game? Not one shot on target registered by them on the night

Also,, he had £0.5 BILLION worth players at his disposal and scraped 4th and the Capital One Cup.

So please don't accuse others of not doing research if you just post "Pellegrini is up there with the best and his history is rich." Because that tells me fuck all. (Oh and my hair is really grey.)

Iain Latchford
153 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:51:22
We've a lot to thank Pellegrini for. If hadn't been for City, Liverpool would have won the league a couple of seasons ago. City scored 151 goals that season. Also, guiding Malaga to 4th in the league then the Champions League Quarterfinal is very impressive.

He'd have money to spend at Everton and has already won the Premier League and both cups. Think about it.

David Connor
154 Posted 25/05/2016 at 17:59:14
FFS, I cannot believe they are even considering Moyes after the way he left our club for Man Utd. Can you imagine how he would have felt letting a player run his contract down in order to leave on a free transfer.

I for one will not set foot in Goodison again if he comes back. What a bunch of fuckin gobshites we have running our club. Needs a bloody good clear-out.
Gavin Johnson
156 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:03:39
It's starting to look like a 3-horse race between FdB, Pellegrini and the Moyesiah. I'd prefer the fat Spanish waiter over Moyes and that's saying something.
Chris Wilson
157 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:21:01
Has Pellegrini been linked with any other teams besides us? Seeing as Farve is off the market, and Koeman and Emery might be immovable objects?
Colin Glassar
158 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:26:37
Pellegrini has to be the obvious choice. He knows the league, he's won the league. He lives in the area and has let it be known he wants the job if he is given the funds to strengthen the squad.

I'm not against (new) foreign managers per se but Pellegrini already knows our players and would fit in seamlessly whereas a new manager (to the league) would need time to adapt.

Richard Reeves
159 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:35:17
I still think FdB would be the best choice and did before all the other managers had ruled themselves out. Why do Everton take so long in these things?
Robbie Muldoon
160 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:40:41
Pellegrini the man who can only just about boast a managerial honors list after stints at Real Madrid, Malaga (when they went money mad), and Manchester City.

Roberto Di Matteo's trophy cabinet beats his.

After all, Pellegrini only got his hand on a Premier League title because of Gerrard's slip.

He has handled rich owners money for many years now. He's definitely the easy, uninspiring, safe appointment.

Robbie Muldoon
161 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:42:01
153 Ian Latchford: Don't forget to thank him for beating us in the Champions League qualifier too!
Jason Broome
162 Posted 25/05/2016 at 18:42:08
James Hughes @152.


Gavin Johnson
163 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:04:37

I don't know about Pellegrini now. He was my 3rd choice a few weeks back but it's alarming how City capitulated towards the end of last season.

I know the announcement of Guardiola's arrival is mitigation. But that all said, the City players didn't seem to go beyond a canter in the semi final of the champions league. If you aren't going to be on your A-game for a game like that, when are you?!

He's also spent a hell of a lot of money and while he'd have a lot of money to spend for us, it will still be short of the money he's been used to at City and Real Madrid. A club where he also won nothing. I know he did well at Villarreal on a relatively small budget but that was about a decade ago.

I agree that he's looking the likely name because he lives in the area, will be available and apparently wants the job.

He's definitely a good manager. He just seems a little too safe. Nothing wrong with that. I can just see a bigger pay off from getting someone like De Boer, or Bielsa in, even though there's more risk. But if it has to be safe pair of hands. Give me Pellegrini over David Moyes.

Iain Latchford
164 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:09:57
The ref beat us Robbie. I went to the home game and Villarreal were very impressive.

In all seriousness keeping a star studded side in the top four isn't as easy as it looks. Just ask LVG, Mourinho or even Wenger. Pellegrini has done that (along with winning it). He knew he was losing his job months ago and still managed it. Don't get me wrong I think City could and maybe should have achieved more but I'd settle for what he won there in the last three years.

Colin Glassar
165 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:26:29
Gavin, we could go on endlessly about the pros and cons of each and every candidate and never agree. The fact remains, we will soon have to name a new manager. I imagine stances will be taken, camps formed, knives sharpened etc..... I can't wait!!
Mark Murphy
166 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:30:40
"The younger of the Dutch twins"???

Still don't get it but, as I said earlier, I'm in favour of Frank de Boer.

Gavin Johnson
167 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:38:18

If we have to go down the sensible route I think I'm edging towards AVB who did a decent job under difficult circumstances at Spurs without little thanks. He wasn't spectacular but he's young and has something to prove.

De Boer if we have to go for a league unknown.

Chris Wilson
168 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:46:22
It just seems that Pellegrini's strongest reasons for wanting the Everton job is that he wants to stay in England and doesn't want to leave the Manchester area. Not really inspired by a manager who just likes the convenience.
Phil Martin
169 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:53:54
@Gavin his record at Real in the league campaign was more than respectable. He achieved their then highest points total in their entire history. However he later admitted his frustrations in being unable to sign his own players. You know the Real model, they give the coach the players and ask him to make a team out of what's hardly a stick to be beaten with.

I guess the fact people are reluctant to trust a coach who's won every domestic honour in England (and very recently) - with the Everton job. Is a great indicator of how far we've come.

Colin Glassar
170 Posted 25/05/2016 at 19:54:33
I like AVB as well Gavin, but I also like FDB, Koeman, Emery, Mancini, Pellegrini, Sanchez Flores etc........
Colin Glassar
171 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:03:13
Not only that Phil, he was well loved in Madrid and the fans were furious when he was sacked. He's also universally liked, and admired, at city.

This guy might be soft spoken but he's no mug.

Gavin Johnson
172 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:05:39
AVB is definitely in the B-list of candidates for me Colin. My preferences would be Koeman, Emery, followed by FDB. It sounds fickle but Franks moved into 3rd place. He ticks the box's on paper but the unknown factor and talk of possession football niggles me.

I'd forgotten about Mancini. He could be worth a shout.

Grant Rorrison
173 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:10:40
Warming to the idea of Pellegrini. Could just be the thought of Mickey Moyes coming back.

Gavin Johnson
174 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:15:48
Fair point Phil. Don't get me wrong. I'd be happy enough if we got Pellegrini. I'm probably focussing too much on how City were playing towards the end of last season and the money he's spent at most of his clubs. He's got a decent record. Football can be fickle and it's easy to forget what a managers done after a relative baron spell.

Tbh, I've never really warmed to the guy. I find him to be mardy bugger like Wenger when he loses. I guess it would be an improvement on losing by 2 or 3 goals and everything being rosey in the garden though.

Frank Crewe
175 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:23:37
How do we know Moshiri is looking at any of the guys who have been mentioned? Maybe he's looking at someone completely off the radar. After all who had heard of Pochettino before he took over at Southampton? That move didn't turn out to be too bad. Maybe we should stop thinking european and start thinking global.
Edward Wallis
176 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:27:01
AVB - absolutely no way....dour, boring football. a proven failure in a competitive league. ie EPL..No backbone.

Pelligrini - I want to back but I think he is on downward slope now in career. Their are 9 clubs who are going spend big this season adding to better sides than us. So application, team spirit is going to be important for us... Peligrini is not that sort of manager imho.

Need someone with fire in the belly. FDB is young and had a great playing career, give this man the job....wanting to manage us + ambition + Elite club playing career + served apprenticeship... THIS is a great combination for a manager to have. NSNO
Mark Fitzgerald
177 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:30:08
Starting to look like we'll soon be down to two candidates for the job; deBoer & Pellegrini. And it seems, as Colin has said, that opinion will be split.
One is the young(ish) pretender: a respected and successful former player and a multiple title winner of the Dutch league in his first managerial stint. Now seeking a new challenge, available, and making it clear he fancies the job.
The other is the elder statesman: a manager in several countries included a stint as boss of Real Madrid. Three years managing in the PL garnered him a title win and two league cups. Also plenty of European football experience. Also available.
To me, either is a step up. That said, either is a risk as is any managerial appointment.
Funnily enough I was excited when I first heard rumours of the former but as we get closer to a decision I find myself more and more drawn to the experience and stability of the latter.
Whichever it is, I'll be praying to the footballing gods that we have finally found the right man to lead us out of the footballing wilderness and back to the summit of domestic and European glory. Ok, ok, I got a bit carried away with the last bit......
Phil Martin
178 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:38:51
Agree that Pellegrini isn't the perfect candidate, but I don't think there is such a thing. I also don't believe the guy we appoint now is necessarily the man who leads us to Champions League glory. First things first - let's qualify for it and win some domestic silverware in the meantime. Pellegrini's track record suggests both objectives are within his power.
Tony Draper
179 Posted 25/05/2016 at 20:43:03
I don't bet, so, it's finally dawned upon me that I don't need a favourite candidate. Farhad, Ecclescake and "The Pantomime Dame" get votes, I don't, so the deed is out of my hands.

My response to our actual appointment (in order of disappointment) will be categorised as follows:

1) Jubilation bordering upon disbelief.
2) Impressed.
3) l need serious persuasion, and fast.
4) Why ? Why ? Why ?
5) Riots in L4 4EL.
6) Sweet baby judas, not Moyes !

Betwixt levels 3 and 4 my pitchfork ignites !

Level 5 I activate my "Lord Summer Isle" Special moves.

Level 6 I wee in Moshiri's shoes.

Colin Glassar
180 Posted 25/05/2016 at 21:34:39
Good point Frank, it could be Avram Grant.
Gavin Johnson
181 Posted 25/05/2016 at 21:44:50
Or Bruce Arena. Wonder what he's up to these days.
Kristian Boyce
182 Posted 25/05/2016 at 22:00:20
Since Christmas City weren't great in the league, but this was about the same time the rumours of Pellegrini being replaced by Pep started. Before Christmas, City were still favourites for the league. I think the Pep rumours affected both manager and team. He was pretty much dead man walking from that point on.

My one concern about Pellegrini is that on a fitness level, many City fans had the same complaints about their players, as we did with ours. They felt they weren't fit enough during games and this caused the wide ranging injuries they had all season.

Neil Ryan
183 Posted 25/05/2016 at 22:05:40
I don't know if this has been mentioned on ToffeeWeb yet but Lucy Meacock of ITV Granada reports posted this on her facebook page yesterday:

Many thanks for the support my friends. Looks like the North West is landing all the best football managers for next season (including a very interesting appointment at Everton)! This is the region everyone will be watching.

Flooded with comments she goes on to say that they know who the next Everton manager is but can't divulge as yet, but she has said it's not Moyes. This was posted yesterday and am amazed it's not gone too far on the web as yet. Link here and scroll down a bit:


Soren Moyer
184 Posted 25/05/2016 at 23:15:52
Pellegrini, FDB or Emery. Just pick one. And please do not even mention the M word. Surely his name is in the mix as a joke!
Mick Davies
185 Posted 26/05/2016 at 02:50:53
Everton have been talking about appointing a Director of Football lately, so how about Pellegrini in this role – with his PL knowledge – and his protege De Boer? I'm sure that would please the vast majority, especially if Bergkamp and Stam jumped aboard.
Jay Wood
186 Posted 26/05/2016 at 03:12:39
Neil @ 183

Thanks for that Neil. I hadn't had a sniff of this.

Intriguing, teasing, or a journo trying to make out they know more than they actually do?

Tony Draper
187 Posted 26/05/2016 at 10:49:26
Mick @185
That is a very compelling idea !

Bloody hell !
Someone at L4 4EL get this lad on the payroll !

Brian Williams
188 Posted 26/05/2016 at 11:08:33
Just read that Neil, thanks for the heads up on it.

If...and it's a big IF, the club HAS got someone already it may explain the total silence and lack of concrete info on who's been interviewed etc.

Have to say though this is like being an 8 year old waiting for Christmas to come and worrying that it might never!!

John Critchley
189 Posted 26/05/2016 at 11:44:35
But if she claims to know who it is why all the secrecy?

Imagine if it got announced who the new manager was at the Tony Bellew fight! A bit of high end dramatic entrance Kenwright style, loads of limelight for him?

Ray Roche
191 Posted 26/05/2016 at 11:55:03
Thanks, John, that's just killed my appetite....
Daniel A Johnson
193 Posted 26/05/2016 at 12:02:01
My mate has heard from someone who works in finance/payroll at Goodison that Pellegrini's details are now in the payroll system.

Don't shoot the messenger but looks like it could be him......could also be rubbish too.

Ken Buckley
194 Posted 26/05/2016 at 12:02:59
Pellegrini to head up the project.

The team to be built and qualified for Champions League to coincide with the opening of the new waterfront stadium in three years time.

Well that's what I was told!!

Daniel A Johnson
195 Posted 26/05/2016 at 12:08:02
Tony Draper
200 Posted 26/05/2016 at 13:00:28
Daniel @195
Myself and others have already stated numerous times that the article for which you have spotted the headline and then clasped your fainting wrist to your forehead as you collapse "Kenwrightly" to the floor does not suggest that Giggsy is a nailed on. Quite the reverse !

Read the bloody article, it's taking the piss out of shit journo's mate.

Read it ! ('Cos you clearly haven't so far).

Robbie Muldoon
201 Posted 26/05/2016 at 13:00:38
According to the Echo the interviewees have been Unsworth, Moyes, and Pellegrini. It's all looking a lot clearer now... They had feelers out for Koeman. He decides to stay put. They moved for Pellegrini, sat down with Unsworth to thank him but inform he will not be staying put, and Kenwright had to offer his David an interview as he probably promised him he was always welcome back in the future if he wanted it too.

All the rest have been paper speculation.

Absolutely astounded about no approach for De Boer.

Shaun Traynor
204 Posted 26/05/2016 at 19:01:57
What if we are waiting for after the Champions League Final and making an approach for Simeone? I'd love that!
Mike Owen
205 Posted 26/05/2016 at 23:27:09
I would take the Everton job if offered.

Although you'd probably want me out at Christmas, despite my win at Anfield.

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