Everton duo watch on for England opener

Mind you, the same could be said for Sterling (done nothing much for City and hardly played), Lallana and Henderson (largely average performances in an ultimately underwhelming season), Wilshere (not played a bloody game!) and Sturridge (also crocked and temperament issues). Cahill has hardly been a tower of strength in an out of sorts Chelsea side either and the least said about the desperate attempts to shoe-horn in Rooney the better.

When you see the likes of Drinkwater left behind (and Vardy behind Kane on the bench tonight), it does appear that who you play for matters more than form - so if Vardy wants a decent crack for England he should definitely join the Arse!

England deserved to win but didn't have much to beat and failed again.

Lallana was poor as was Sterling but both stayed on the field and will probably both start against Wales.

Agree on your points re Sterling and Wilshere though. I think Vardy could have started ahead of Sterling and England could have played two up front.

Am I alone in this?

This squad has some good, young players but the manager is in the pockets of the richer clubs and the media. Until we get a manager with balls who plays the in-form, fit players we will win nowt. Woy out!!

David, I can see us getting two more draws and being eliminated on three points. Roy will then get another two years to "prepare us" for Russia.

Not sure why there's so much anti England sentiment on TW, it's curious.

Btw the scenes of violence are shocking.

I went to Bordeaux with the Royal Navy years ago, French Algerians attacked us with stanley blades, almost causing a diplomatic incident. Needless to say, it was hushed up on both sides and we swiftly sailed, never to return. I feel for the poor bastards out there, even if they bring some of it on themselves.

Win/lose/draw, England's results mean absolutely nothing to me (nor do the results of any other national team).

I might add that I hope all those shaven-headed, fat, tattooed wools who were sitting in the street in Marseilles singing 'stand up if you hate the French' get everything they deserve.

Compared to EFC it might as well be hockey or Grand Prix or cricket. I really don't give too much of a shit.

I might watch the odd game but that depends on whether there's anything better to do (clean the fridge? Weed the garden? Treat our Dixie for fleas?)

I do enjoy the after-match phone-ins though. They are often close to the hilarity / histrionics of a rs defeat.

We also clearly have more than our fair share of bell-ends supporting the national team judging by what is happening in Marseilles.

I think I'll cheer Wales on - at least they've won their first Euro match - more than England have apparently (ever).

Did I hear the TV commentator right during a brief attentive moment? After England scored did he really say 'justice for the England 11'?

More importantly these days, I fully agree with Eugene Ruane at #21. "Fans" chanting that sort of shite are surely "Brexit" supporters.

Drink-water doesn't even make the squad, Vardy doesn't get a minute. But Sterling plays despite being awful all season, as does Lalana, Cahill, and even Milner gets brought on. And that's why England will always fail, because we go off of reputation and club instead of actual ability and form.

I also still remember the semi-final between the Germans and Italy. Amazing stuff, 4-3 or something to the Italians.

Over the years I've watched a handful of games, and got to the point of actively supporting the opposition. I remember laughing at that Robinson air kick.

Now my kids (though not English born) consider themselves England supporters so I've been dragged back in with them, and actually thought I could get on board with this young team. But today was the same failings as always and both goals did nothing to me. At best, I'm a neutral.

Sterling just isn't a footballer. Incredible that the RS got so much for him. The centre forward taking shit corners just highlights the lack of technical ability in the team. Alli was completely ineffective tonight but stayed on. Rooney did well but came off just when they needed his experience. Two old fashioned headers of the ball at centre back, two athletes at full back who struggle to play football.

Rose and Walker are like Ashley Cole if he'd been no good at football and turned to lifting weights as a hobby.

The only negative I felt was that I could completely understand Ross not coming on because I wouldn't have trusted him at 1-0 either and I might be his biggest fan. Somehow, Everton and England need to unlock what's within him because he's the best technical player in the country.

I'm just glad there were no Everton players on show for the media to blame after that game, although you won't hear a word from the media against any other players.

Though Lallana was good first half, but bit quiet in second. Walker was excellent throughout. Pity we did not win the battle to sign him when Ginge was in charge.

I'm not making excuses for our thugs but the other lot are just as guilty. As for the French police.........

Everton first, England last every time

It's great (every couple of years) to have completely stress-free football.

A chance to watch games with a more analytical eye.

With Everton, certainly at the time I'm watching, I know I'm seeing the game a different way.

Every throw-in is 'our-ball!' every foul against us committed by 'a fucking animal' every foul we commit is due to a 'diving cheating twat' etc.

With international tournaments, you just calmly think 'it was a corner/foul/free-kick/pen' etc.

Obviously it's the genuine passion that makes football what it is, so as nice as the break from the lunacy is, come August I'll be gagging for the real thing once again.

On the pitch, Roy's tactical ineptitude and conservatism repeated by keeping Kane on and not using Vardy, trying to shut up shop etc. That was a pity because there were some good signs in the 70 minutes. Rooney looked good in midfield and the two full backs were excellent.

Final groundhog, a minority of tanked up morons behave like idiots then whine about the nasty police.

Welcome to another international tournament.

Yesterday I enjoyed the Wales game more that the England match and like others have mentioned even had a chuckle when Russia scored imagining the commentators desperately scouring the pitch for Baines or Jags to blame!

On another note – I don't understand the comments re Lallana, I thought he played well in the last two games. "Justice for the England Eleven" though? Not just tasteless it was cringeworthingly sixth-form smart-ass commentary!

However, when Ireland, north or south play, I feel the same. I feel no jingoism whatsoever, just wanting lads who are getting what I dreamed of doing well. I felt like that about Wales yesterday. If Barkley or Stones had played I would have cheered on England. Where on earth do those fanatical England supporters come from? This is a genuine question.Is it a north south divide?

Rooney is a Manc now. "Mad for it, don't steal my hubcaps", etc. Milner is Hodgson's never-tiring but not-very-good ferret. Sterling runs like a freak. Lallana joined the dark side. Delle Ali is decent but he is keeping Ross out of the team.

I have to wonder how much the hardcore England fans really care about their respective clubs. If you can forget completely about rivalries that run from August to May every year as soon as you see the 3 Lions, you have a powerful mind.

What were them subs about? How the fuck were they going to change the game. As soon as I seen the team, I knew we would struggle.

It is common knowledge that Russian hooligans have been dying to test themselves against our lot for years now. They tried during the last euros but the Polish and Russian authorities were all over them and nothing came of it. Hopefully, the guilty will be caught, tried and jailed and the keys thrown away.

The next games are relatively close to each other so unless the French take measures I can see another battle brewing.

We will only see a solution to this problem when a team or two is thrown out of the competition. I fear for the World Cup in Russia in 2018 - in fact I fear for the rest of this Euro competition unless urgent action is taken such as a points deduction or preferably a straight ban.

"Ultras" attacking people who had primary school kids with them ?
Fuckin' Rock 'Ard !

Are you really conflating a Saturday night in Leeds with a sustained and systematic attack by organised thugs on mainly innocent English fans ?

Also ,French Police have to deal with ruthless French Public sector workers erecting barricades, setting fires, and perpetrating a dearth of civil unrest measures to make their point, but hey ho, it's quaint and tranquil over the channel.

Won corruptly.
Hosted by an openly racist homophobic state (in direct contravention of FIFA policies).
There will not just be organised attacks, there will be kidnappings and murders possibly including officials and players as well as fans.

Blatters corrupt legacy.

Thought Perisic looked useful for Croatia earlier. Always liked him as a the person to fill our left wing spot.

Hodgson has his favourites and they are in the Sky six.

And with Russia kicked out of course. It's not like the awarding of it was shrouded with squeaky cleanness.

The only player who should be of interest to us so far is Milik.

Thought Yarmalenko wasnt that good today drifting in and out of the game.

No standout keepers so far either except for Neur of course.

Playing out from the back is all very well but... keeper, quick throw to full back, square pass to CB or other FB, who is then under pressure, so back to keeper, who then kicks it long or out.

Free kick... good chance to get the ball in the box... but NO – square pass or backwards... half-a-dozen passes to get back to square one.

Seems a bit of Roberto has rubbed off on the Hodge...

Oh and buy Milik quickly and try and beat Utd to Embolo (£15million, an absolute steal).

I support England and want them to win but I have nowhere near the pain or pride relationship that died in me after Euro 96, the last tournament when I thought just about the best group of players we had played to their potential.

I am embarrassed by the team for which I place a lot of blame on what I see as a manager who fails to instil passion and belief and I am embarrassed by a number of so called England 'fans' who think they are so superior and can chant obscenities about other nations, fans etc...

Yes, England played fairly well in the first half but the manager then had no clue how to keep it up in the second half. Poor against a poor side.