Koeman aims to bring Dutch style to Goodison

What I think will be the major change that will be apparent, is our attitude; and also our approach to every game. Ronald Koeman is setting the scene for our players...and they better react!

Roll on August!

With a manager now that commands respect and believes in discipline, doesn't butter players up and shoots straight from the hip and says it how he sees it, has that work ethic, organisation and has his teams fit, this will all be a great benefit to the club and it's what we need after the last 2 seasons!

And I'm liking what I'm hearing when it comes to the likes of Barkley, I'm liking the approach he's wanting to take. He knows Barkley is a good player but he still thinks he needs to improve and get better. He won't wax lyrical every week about him and massage his ego, if he's played well he'll say so but if he's not and hasn't pulled his weight, then he'll tell him, even drop him sometimes no doubt and after the past 2 season I think this is exactly what Barkley needs to kick on now, a bit of tough love. He was given a platform to come in and just play but now hopefully he's going to learn how to become a top player, learn his role, work for the team and be rounded off.

And looking at Koeman's track record with CB's in the past few years, the likes of de Vrij & Martins-Indi at Feyenoord, Alderweireld, Fonte & van Dijk at Southampton, he can clearly pass on his wisdom and get the best out of those types of players and IF we can hopefully keep Stones, then I'm sure he will learn a great deal off of Koeman and start to really show his true potential. And I'm sure he'll work wonders with Funes Mori aswell has there's a decent CB in there aswell!

It feels like it's gonna be exciting times finally at Everton. We have a world renowned manager that is well respected and well thought of in the footballing world, who is a good manager and has his teams playing a good brand of football who is a straight talker and seems to take no shit and also has a great eye for a player and I'm sure he will build us up and put us right back on the map of English football!

Silver.

He is willing to make Ross a better player; this is highly welcome.

Let the game start!

I really hope John Stones sees the benefits of working under Koeman; Ross along with the other players will benefit enormously I am sure - but I am also just as sure that Lukaku will go no matter what RK has to say to him.

Bring the new season on!

If the latter two leave, they will have to contend with high media scrutiny over big transfer fees on incomplete talent. John Stones had a difficult season, but can you imagine his confidence if that had happened at Chelsea with a £40m+ fee? Professionally they'd benefit from another year, and could see that improved contracts could be a decent compromise to give it another year. Both have time on their side for a 'big' move.

Sunday's see us linked with Schneiderlein which I guess is dependent on Matic moving to United. I'd be happy with him. He's a decent player that would cement one midfield berth and would make us harder to beat having played brilliantly under Koeman. Sign another and that puts a big question on the futures of McCarthy, Barry and Besic. My guess that all 3 could be gone over the next 12 months.

"I like to play attacking football and to press the opposition, to make it difficult."

It may be the Dutch style but it also sounds very Harry Catterick and Howard Kendal to me. I think we are in for some good times ahead.

So, until he's seen the players, weighed up whether the're staying or going, then I don't think we'll be seeing a lot of action until the players come back. But I think the preparation will be well underway.

For me, the whole midfield needs a re-think. We can't have 2 centre mids whose sole purpose is destruction. We can have 1 maximum. McCarthy has the engine to burst forward more, I'm hoping Ronald addresses this. Likewise, I don't want to see Barkley trotting around overweight with no thoughts of defending. He needs to get properly fit, and do some of the basics a bit better. The wide positions should take care of themselves, between Lennon, Deulofeu and Mirallas, as long as they are fit.

If we can just sort out our centre mids, press teams a bit higher up the pitch and push the defence up a bit higher, we'll have a decent season, because the other thing that was apparent last season was that we were way too deep. Oh, and we need a good pre-season, as I'm sick of seeing millionaire footballers who are not fit enough to play for 90 minutes!!

As much as I liked Roberto I now feel like the cheated husband who was the last to find out about his wife's extra-marital affairs. I feel very angry with him now.

Also I'm worried about how the club is suddenly willing to throw millions about, whether thats for Martinez and Norman's compensation, huge salary increase in the managers position, then all the talk of bumper contracts for many of the players. Add to that the potential DOF position which would need another big salary. Soon Kenwright will be demanding a multimillion pound salary for the chairman's role....

He was always my first choice from day one. I believe Ronald will be the man that makes us a force again. COYB.

Now he's with us he's got a bigger budget, good academy and a massively underperforming squad that he can mould. If the like of Stones and Lukaku leave (I want Stones to stay btw) I trust him to replace them or evolve the style of play to suit players he brings in.

I think we're all in agreement we were one dimensional the last 2 years here's to 16/17 season seeing us adapt to playing teams with a Plan B and C.

COYB

Only once the pre-season matches are under way, and more importantly when we have played half-a-dozen or so Premier League games, will we know how Ronald is going to shape his team and how his players are reacting to their new boss. Add to that the inevitable changes to the playing staff and we could be in for a rocky ride at the start of the season or we might be fortunate and everything falls into place - who knows?

Incredibly Ronald is the oldest manager to be appointed by Everton FC which is a good thing because that experience will be invaluable in the coming months. Oldest Boss

Like many others, I'm not that interested in philosophies I'm only interested in seeing a team that represents the supporters on the pitch and broadly reflects the values of the club but most importantly a team that shows us that they care and that they want to win every time they take to the pitch.

At least 31,000 fans have backed the club with hard cash and they and everyone who supports the club deserve to have a team that they can be proud of and hopefully Ronald is the man to provide such a side, but words and charm offensives won't matter a jot if the results are not an improvement on the last 18 months - we've been down that road far too often in the last 20 years.

So, they've listened to what the fans want - damned if you do, damned if you don't !

Martinez spent a lot of time building up the young players confidence but I think a bit more structure and discipline will do Ross some good - a base to express himself from.

I wonder if he'll agitate some of our current squad, e.g. Lukaku - it might have to be the price paid for progress.

Losing Lukaku could definitely affect our league-standing - but I don't see that Stones has had much affect on our last season.

I'd happily sell-to-buy both of them if it meant a more cohesive team.

Bye bye side ways passing, bye bye doing nothing off the ball.

With Koeman shit is shit and he will tell you to your face.

Some of these players are due a rocket and they fucking know it.

Rocket Ronald will light a few fireworks and if any of the soft lads don't like it they can get out of goodison pronto.

Welcome to the new era boys pre season will be a shock to the bloody lot of them.

I like the fact that he has said its time for Barkley to step up to the plate as an international player and not be assessed as a young player any more.

I just remember the wave of positivity that arrived with Martinez - we "loved his positivity" and demanded a better approach than the "Moyes misery".

Don't tell me I'm being negative. I'm just yet to be impressed. I desperately want him to do well for us but I was told on TW that I just had "pre-wedding jitters" when I expressed concerns re Martinez' appointment.

Good that he has time to address the squad situation well before the season starts and nice we have someone who isn't simply trying to escape a team he got relegated but let's see what he can do before we start salivating. The higher we build them, the further they fall.

Sod philosophies and five year building plans, lets judge the new regime on what they achieve. Points on the board and seats in the stand is all that matters. Talk, as always, is cheap !

Attacking football, defensive solidity, being the boss of our stadium, pressing, high tempo, not pkaying keep ball (RM's fave), playing the best 11, hating losing, being positive but hard when he meeds to be...could he sound any better?

Excited!!!!! I'm starting to love the man...

I can't help thinking that, when Funes Mori returns, he is going to be 3 times the player he was before he left and possibly captain material!

I guess he's saying the right things, but they're only "I believe in defending well, attacking well and winning" when it all comes down to it.

Yes that beats "I don't believe in keeping clean sheets and set pieces aren't important" but it's not exactly ground-shaking.

And you can't possibly be really called Everton Wint... can you?

1) dismiss existing manager who was not delivering the required results and performances
2) appoint credible manager with the potential to improve results and performances

Moshiri still has to show his hand on retaining and recruiting players as well as revealing concrete plans on the stadium issue.

As for the manager and coaching staff, I think I'll wait and judge him on results and games played then any soundbites offered in the closed season.

Will be curious to see what moves we make this Summer and how he judges the likes of Mori, McCarthy, Deulofeu, Mirallas etc.

A GK is the obvious need and after that much will depend on who Ronald rates and who sticks around.

I would be happy to see 2 or 3 really good players come in rather than 6 or 7 good ones. Reckon Ronald can get a lot more out of the current squad.

Wasn't it mooted early on, the plan was for him to follow Moshiri to EFC?

Would prefer a German philosophy meself.

If you like German, I believe one Premier League side has a German manager.

As the situation deteriorated and Roberto's ramblings and general mumbo jumbo worsened there was obviously no way back. However it is only now that the combination of hindsight and enthusiasm for the new manager is starting to bite.

RK has to say something to the media, and here he has not put a foot wrong. Also, whether consciously or not he has put Roberto's performance in the spotlight and the shade at the same time!

The real gulf between what Everton should have been, what they were, and the complete balls up he made of managing the club's team interests will become apparent very quickly. For me the question will be the balance RK manages to strike between re-invigorating the already excellent squad, the burgeoning U 21's and selected use of the mid to high end of the transfer market. Some task but I think Everton have got the right man for the job.

By association, Roberto may find it very difficult to be taken seriously in the UK in the future. Every man and his dog (except BK) new how badly under-performing for the last 2 years, and with RK at the helm, if we do as well as we could then this really could be a surprising season!

The Germans are probably more superior in terms of organisation and discipline (what would you expect), but the Dutch over the years have probably had more flair.

Either way, both have it right at grass roots which is where we are screwed. Go to any Dutch or German village (yes village) and compare the facilities to the mud patches our kids still play on to this day. And we wonder why we lag behind the other leading football nations.

Dutch is fine with me.

It's also not beyond the realms of possibility that Moshiri, if Everton's ground move is completed, could cash in his chips at Everton FC and return to Arsenal in a few years time.

No concrete or even paper-thin evidence for any of the above scenarios but no less plausible than any others suggested.

Usmanov and Moshiri weren't happy with the Kroenke acceptance of a top 4 finish every season and have greater ambitions than that. Let's see what happens.

As for German vs Dutch managers, I can't think of any German manager who's been successful in the Premier League... didn't Magath get relegated with Fulham? And as for the clown across the park? Well the verdict is still out on him; I hear there are problems in Mordor between Klopp and his transfer committee.

The reason why I'm excited is quite simply Koeman is a better manager than Martinez. Its a step up. Martinez wasn't a step up from Moyes, more a sideways move with different style of football.

So I don't understand why everyone's saying be careful about Koeman, because Martinez also said the right things. Koeman is a lot better than Martinez, simple. That's why I'm excited, and seeing him in the press conferences saying all the right things can only help.

Would it make it more of a discussion point if Moshiri and Usmanov had been partners for years? (They have, dude.)

I checked him out on Wiki... maybe you should; it's a very interesting read...

I was thinking more in terms of philosophy, not individuals of the nationality, with a cheap dig at the Dutch for not qualifying.

Danny knows it; the German national side is full of quality youngsters who know they need to perform or they are out. Result of giving opportunities to players at an early stage, something I hope Koeman does. I am happy to indulge him for a while in that regard, irrespective of results, so long as there is evidence of progress.

On a side note, just watched the full press conference with big Ron and thought he handled the media with class, especially regarding his former employers, the Everton players under transfer speculation and his opinion of our playing squad. In essence he said, these are things I would rather discuss with those concerned than with outsiders. The way it should be.

Whenever I saw him play he exuded strength, class and even arrogance but boy did he earn the right to do it. I hope he shows the squad the same "Kean M.O", and has no time at all for wimps.

Where did you get this from please?

I was thinking about the Rom situation last night, especially in view of RK's comment in one of his appearances saying "you don't sell your best players".

If you remain objective about it Lukaku is undoubtedly one of our best players (he's one of our only strikers for a start) so it makes sense that RK's told them to forget it.

I'm sure he will be looking at strengthening around Lukaku rather than looking to spend time and money replacing him, and given he's still got three years to run on his contract we're not compelled to do so either.

I'm almost 100% certain that Stonesy and Ross will stay. Rom as well although by default.

I'm sure that Ross will knuckle down and improve or at least go back to his form of Martinez's first season.

Lukaku – I'm not convinced he even thinks he has to improve his abilities. I would love him to stay and try to get a top four or five finish, but I think his dad's got other plans for him.

The being successful in the Premier League thing doesn't wash with me personally. I would argue most top German managers have never felt the need to "prove" themselves in the self-proclaimed best league in the world (4 European Champions in 24 years since the Premier League's existence hardly constitutes dominance). Whereas managers from Erd Divisie may see the Premier League as a step up, perhaps those in the Bundesliga don't.

Splitting hairs but Dutch or Deutsch fine with me.

I agree with your overview. I am very excited by these statements from Koeman, but I was equally upbeat with Martinez's opening utterances too. Most of us were, I remember.

I think we are talking about a manager with experience and gravitas now though – but it'll be how he builds his own squad and stamps his authority tactically in that first month or two.

This will be the true measure of how far this 'project' will take us to the silverware we crave. If he can give us a real boost over those first two months, we are going to be near the top come the end of October. After the Spurs match, I see every other match as very winnable!

I will ask him to email it to me and post it. He is on holiday at the moment with his lady,not sure she would be pleased with him talking football on a romantic break but you never know.

For me, I just loved what he said above. Watch out everyone, "Elvis is back in the building".

Koeman - and don't get me wrong I'm happy about his appointment - will be judged by the results.

Football, like sales, is a results driven business, live or die by the number, dutch style, complete football, total football, shit football, nobody gives a fuck so long as you are winning, I'd take shit football 1-0 victories all day long.

Your mentality of being accepting of 'shit football' and taking '1-0 victories all day long' and your proclamation that 'nobody gives a fuck as long as we're winning' is the polar opposite of what myself and I'm sure many others are trying get away from.

Well, I care... and I would guess that, if not all, the vast majority want attacking football. I want to see us 'bossing' matches at home. I want to see a squad all playing for each other, the coach and ourselves. I want 3-0, 4-0 uncompromising, clinical dissections of anyone who's in front of us and a fucking lot less of people like you and your 'small potatoes' thinking.

"I'd take shit football 1-0 victories all day long" – your 'potato' ambitions remind me of someone... are you David Moyes?

Very encouraging to hear what he has to say; no shite, just honest talk. And the fact that he's actively working playing and non playing staff so early in the summer rather than doing media work for ESPN!

Perhaps we may win something this year with a fit team who believe in the manager and who believe in each other; a piece of silverware would be nice to mark the 30th anniversary of our last league title.

1. Win the League Cup.
2. Win at Anfield.
3. Finish in a Europa League qualifying position in the Premier League.

Not asking for too much from a Gaffer on ٣-7 million a year!.

Damien Wilde, I wanted De Boer cos he won a League title as a manager of Ajax, then he did it again, then again, then again! I'd be happy if any boss at our great club could win 4 derby matches on the bounce!.

Me, I'm cautious, that's all. Unless we win at Anfield I doubt we'll win anything meaningful EVER again. We can only hope and dream...

We've literally been there, seen it and done it; wins you nothing and has negatively impacted on the mindset and expecation levels of a generation of Evertonians. We then had a manager who placed far too much emphasis on the style he wanted to play and seemingly prioritised performance over results.

So results first; yes. But not at all costs (subtly different). Style yes; but combined with substance and a desire to win

If we're going to rise to heights we have previously occupied, amongst other things, we must believe like, behave like and think like a big club once more.

Danny, the sun is shining blindingly and it's all hanging over Goodison Park right now for the first time in decades. I want this to be a time when I can talk with some conviction about almost anything related to our club because I have complete belief in Koeman and Moshiri. I want it to be a time I can enjoy and talk about what I want to see happen in the future knowing there's a good chance it could.

I don't want to listen to those (who thankfully seem to be in the minority but who I still find disproportionally annoying) bang on about what they're prepared to settle for....ouch!

It's over! Those days are gone! It is a new dawn, not another false one and it's happening right now and just how cool is it that this has come about, eh?

I wonder what we'd be talking about if BK was still the main man and no Moshiri in sight...no money would have meant we'd be advertising Lukaku and offering his agent an extra 5% if he guaranteed to get us our 㿈m back. Instead of talking about a 21st century spanking new riverside stadium we'd probably be having a whip round so we could get some urgent pointing done or ask for volunteers from our brothers and sisters in the building trade.

And then, the new coach. Ahhh possibly having the choice between Neil Warnock and a semi-retired circus monkey looking for a less mobile and more settled position. You can imagine the questions...can the monkey talk? No but he's very tactically adept and he'll work for Green Shield stamps. Can Warnock juggle 3 coconuts like the monkey? No he can't do anything as well as the monkey.

Gutter level ambitions will take us to the gutter and to paraphrase you Danny, without believing, behaving and thinking like a big club, we never will be.

Likely I had been drinking when I made that post – don't get me wrong, I want to see good football too but, for me, the results come first.

So, which game did you enjoy the most and have the most pleasant memories of, the 0-1 at Newcastle where we slugged it out and scored in the last minute, or the 3-3 against Saints (or Chelsea; take your pick) – plenty of goals, end-to-end, last-minute action.

I preferred the Newcastle game.