Lukaku talks up potential PSG link

Sell him for as much money as possible, and as soon as possible......

Silly boy, you are still under contract for another 3 years. Everything is in the hands of EFC, you just remember that.

Rom won't be easily replaced so I'd keep the big mouthed bugger but someone at the club has to tell him to keep his trap shut or else

It's a well-honed process: Agent-organised interviews, normally abroad; claims of being "misquoted", then involving family members; in this case, Lukaku's father. This latter ploy worked particularly well for Fellaini.

The next stage is to bring your dissatisfaction on to the pitch. In the latter part of last season, from his "I want Champions League experience" onwards, Lukaku just ambled around, his major contribution being to miss two crucial penalties, arguably costing us those two games.

Not only is this selfish and greedy (it all means "I want more money") but surely it has a detrimental effect on team morale. What do loyal players like Baines and Jagielka feel when they regularly read such nonsense?

Koeman must get shut asap at the highest price. Otherwise, it will drag on and on.

And am I alone in being sick of this word "project" in the context of football? It's all you ever hear from foreign players these days, as if a football team is something that exists as part of an educational qualification.

That will leave no time for a replacement; so the I suspect we'll see early business if he continues to mouth off for mid forties. That, or the club take a firm stance and hold him to contract.

His agents press release if that happened, would be something.

I watched the same match and actually thought Embolo looked good.
It was a dull game where both teams were clearly playing for the required point to send them through the group stages, but his obvious strength and energy was a plus. His movement was good and he seemed to keep the French defenders on their toes.

I am not saying he is on Lukaku's level, but if we got £65m for Rom and spent £20m or so on Embolo and, say, Janssen or Milik. I would be happy.
2 moitvated, promising and potentially prolific strikers in exchange for 1 and some change.

If he stays with an inflated new contract, I think it will only alienate him further. With three years left on a contract, it should not be reviewed, never mind improved, whoever it is. And if big Ron is the man we think he is, Lukaku could well see a lot more of the bench in future...

He has no touch on the ball and no feelings for club or supporters. Go before team building starts.

You do not hear such things from JS camp and yet he is just as likely to leave given the two Manchester clubs are looking to take him if paper rumours are to be believed.

Colin - 6 - I agree with your comment re Embolo - he did not impress me at all. What top striker is out there good enough to replace Lukaku who would come knowing we don't have European football to look forward to?

I'd have to ask him what has happened to the plan to go to Juventus Rom? Or was that just your dad's idea? Or more likely is it because you had a go against Italian defenders last week, did nowt and don't fancy it?

Does this mean you now have your heart set on earning a fucking fortune playing for the only strong team in a very weak league, scoring loads of goals against poor defences, winning almost guaranteed easy trophies and being certain of Champions League football every year? You could get that playing for Celtic.

Hmmmm!

Cut off our nose to spite his face? I think it would do too much damage to the team, having such an highly self-centred, opinionated fool, moaning every day at the training ground.

I wish I could be honest and say I hope Lukaku's goals win Belgium the tournament, but I would actually prefer Sweden to knock them out after reading young players talk about themselves with such fucking big egos.

The next part of the 'project' is the most important, Rom; prove you're not a flat-track bully, and go and bully the best defenders?

Mr Koeman should pay whatever it costs to get the Dutch lad (Janssen) in – this lad will run through brick walls and has skills, finishing and aggression.

I wish Lukaku well in his career because he has produced the goods for us, but each time he opens his gob, his dignity rating takes a plunge.

He's had a decent start to his career, but he talks like he his the next Maradona or Messi.

A 23-year-old who has had his own way right through life but, to reach the top level, you have to be able to do more than talk a great game.

The obvious quote has obviously made me feel sick!

He's a first class tit. Do one, you arrogant, narcissistic, condescending prick. You're a lazy get with a poor attitude and I don't want this at our club, even if he does score a lot of goals – we're not the Red Shite.

I don't care how good or bad he is. He's played 20 minutes of football for Everton since January and single-handledly cost us a chance of a cup final place.

One arrogant self-important, big-headed fucker. Shut the door on your way out. Gobshite.

You can't improve on what he hasn't got. He's 23 for Christ sake, coached since about 9 – if he ain't got now, he ain't going to get it. He will score some spectacular goals and will make some spectacular misses but that's all strikers: great – he is not.

Damian#34.

Do us a favour. Tell us what you really think of him...

...but what a knob.

Chris #8 – I think his rhetoric is changing – over the weekend when asked about moving to Juventus he seems to have kept it down to being focused on playing for the national team at Euro 2016 and for any further comment to speak to his agent. So – yes, I think on face value someone has had "a word".

Everton is a great football institution.

Unless these quotes from football magazines are lies, it seems our 23-year-old record signing has said "I will go to a club .........."

My interpretation of this is that he doesn't think Everton is a good enough "project" for him. That being the case, I am going to exercise my right as a longstanding fan of the club and take umbrage to that statement. In this little blue duck's opinion, he is not good enough for us. His heart isn't in it.

Everton Football Club has been through the good times and bad times in my 55 years as a fan and I am convinced that we will manage perfectly well without Romelu Lukaku. The chemistry will be better.

Get rid.

You're supposedly an intelligent man so if someone asks about your future just say I'm contracted to Everton blah blah or put a transfer request in- that should piss your 'super' agent off losing all that money. But he is a super agent so he'll be able double your money.

Koeman may interest him with his 'NEW' project for our club.If he signs a couple of top players and we reach Europe then Lukaku may want to stay.He is under contract and it is in his own interest to play well and attract other clubs.Suarez stayed at Liverpool longer than he wanted and they made a lot of money when they sold him on their terms.If Lukaku wants away he must put in a written transfer request and in the meantime continue to play as his contract stipulates.

No real point comparing him with Suarez as he is simply not in his league

The only time I have been to Mordor, other than derbies, was when an RS uncle took me to see them in the old Div 2. I think he was trying to convert me, god forbid! I live to see the day they are back where they belong.

As for the other teams. I don't think Chelsea will pay that on principle, and I can't see United going in for him with Mourinho at the helm.

I would hope that Koeman can persuade John Stones to stay. As for Rom. He's gone from hero to zero for me and can go as far as I'm concerned. The only circumstance in which I'd like him to stay is if John Stones is sold. I wouldn't like two major exits this summer.

You're right, he's not in Suarez' league. He's actually far better and been far more successful at his age than Suarez was during those same years. He only just turned 23, which means he has 7 years until he even comes into the prime of his career.

So yeah, he can keep scoring against those "second rate" teams, just as he did this past season when he scored against Leicester (league champs), Chelsea, City, West Ham, Southampton and Liverpool. He can score a brace against Ireland, while Ibrahimovic can't even get a shot on goal never mind score in his first 2 games.

I trust RK to do the right thing for Everton after he meets him once Belgium are out.

Fact is that we will not find a more reliable, young scorer of goals in Europe. We can take a punt on someone and it might work out but right now we have something that most teams want. Someone that has consistently scored at around 1 every 2 games.

My message to Romelu:

"Stop talking about other clubs. You are under contract at Everton. You're ambitious? Fine. But so are we. Give us one more season under Ronald where you buckle down and work hard for the team (not just yourself) in a way that will make the big teams really want you. If after that you feel this team and manager can't give you what you want then by all means go with our blessing, please do so discreetly without shouting it all over the press. Show a bit of class, it goes a long way."

If Lukaku, had a tenth of Suarez's natural aggression, and desire, he might just reach the very top. For me he's a man child, who I think will probably peak around 26 years of age.

Once he loses that quick powerful burst, he will start to regress, especially considering he doesn't really have a stand-out quality, in his over-all game.

This might change as he develops, but from the way he talks, I doubt this very much, because he already talks like he's a legend.

"He's not in Suarez' league. He's actually far better ."

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Lukaku will never be in the top league of strikers.

"He can score a brace against Ireland, while Ibrahimovic can't even get a shot on goal never mind score in his first 2 games."

That settles it, Lukaku is a far better player than ZI has ever been.

You keep loving the guy that is maing a mug of you.

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Roger Lukaku

Lukaku's just turned 23 and from what I can see has scored 119 goals across 278 games over 8 seasons. This gives him a goal per game ratio of 43%.

By the end of the 2010 season, when Suarez turned 23, he had scored 126 goals across 204 games across 6 seasons, which gives him a goal per game ratio of 62%.

That makes Suarez almost half as good again as Lukaku, at the same age, from a goal scoring perspective. If we had a comparison on assists I imagine Suarez would be in a completely different county.

So back to the full quote: "He's actually far better and been far more successful at his age than Suarez was during those same years."

See how the context changes when you don't cut off the second half of a sentence? It's funny that way, although I understand it makes your argument much easier to do so.

So, lets look at the two players through their first 22 years. Since Lukaku just turned 23 last month, you can't really include a year of football that he has yet to play. And saying he's played 8 seasons of professional football?? So you're saying he was playing regularly at the age of 15? Hmmm.

Well lets look at the players during those first professional years, from the age of 19 - 22, so 4 seasons. The age of 19 is when Lukaku was loaned out from Chelsea at a teenager to West Brom.

Lukaku scored 17 for WBA, then 16, 20 and 25 in his three seasons here at Everton. For a total of 78.

Suarez, starting in 2006 was at Nacional. He scored 12. Then moved to Groningen, scoring 15. Then on to Ajas where he scored 22 and 28 in two seasons. For a total of.....77.

Last time I checked, 78 > 77. And I do believe that we would all agree that the premier league is a far more competitive and difficult league than the Dutch league, yes?

So continue your mocking all you like. But what you'll notice is that when Suarez turned 23, he scored 49 for Ajax, then moving to Liverpool where as we all know he only got better. It's funny how players continue to get better from their early twenty's into their mid and late twenty's.

I recall Barkley doing that quite a bit, as well as McCarthy and our defenders doing so in our own half. The entire Everton team didn't chase down the ball because Martinez had them in a system where they say off. Did you not notice all 10 outfield players the past two seasons constantly standing off their man and just letting the opposition take the ball forward? Criticizing Lukaku for that makes no sense.

Of course he needs to work on aspects of his game. What 22 year old has ever been the finished article? In fact, what player isn't always needing to improve something?

Again, he only just turned 23 and has done nothing but get better year after year, which is why this talk about him being average and we should just get rid and bite whoever a hand off that offers a decent amount, that's just idiotic and an emotional response to a player who is looking at his options. If you had no emotional connection to this club and had to sit through the past 2 years of a garbage manager, while the Board seemed quite happy to just see how things went, would you not be thinking the same?

Of course we don't like it, of course I'd prefer if he just would give a standard "not thinking about any move right now, focused on the Euros" answer to the media. But, he is just turned 23, how media savvy and mature were you at that age? And I'm looking forward to seeing what Moshiri and Koeman plan to present in an effort to get his to stay. Because if they really do spend the money that's being discussed, there is every chance that he could be a 30+ goal striker next season. And it makes all the sense in the world for Everton to be the one to benefit from that, instead of getting a sum of money that will be spent with no guarantee as to the success of that replacement.

The aggravating point is that his UCL talk has continued thus far, a big distraction for us with RK's appointment just days ago.

Similar to saying Lukaku's replacement is a gamble, Lukaku might not fit well with RK's tactics. Unlikely but possible. I'm not against us keeping him but someone from the club needs to make a stand against Lukaku's non-stop cries to want to go to a UCL club. If PSG pay the money we want, there is no debate, but until then, someone at the club needs to remind Lukaku, his family and his agent of his contract with us.

For us, we need to get capable strikers in quickly to pair up with him or to replace him. Nothing works as better leverage than having a capable replacement coming right through our door and telling Lukaku he's making a mistake wanting to leave so soon.

To be honest, why are we having an in-depth analysis of Rom v Suarez 17-22? Pointless.

Rom is a good goalscorer, but if he can't trap a ball at the age of 23 or put a shift in he never will; he isn't 14 (all this 'he's reeeaallllly young' crap). So he'll be a very goid player, but not a 'top' one like Aguero, Suarez. And as he is being arrogant and mugging us off, I want him gone. If you want to start a Rom fan club, go for it David.

If you want to knock that on to next season (when he'll have a full year playing at 23) I'll have a spreadbet with you - £1 a goal above / below 49 goals and we'll see where we end up.

Lukaku should get better, that's the normal order of things but if you're forecasting he's going to be as good as Suarez in four, five, six years I think you need to put your pint down and get some fresh air.

Lukaku turned 23 after the season, come on now. Suarez turned 23 snake in he middle of the year. As I said, Lukaku's next year will be when he is 23. It's not that complicated.

And tell me this, do you think that the Dutch league is equal competition to what is faced in the Prem? Do you maybe think the level of competition while playing at Ajax is just a little bit less than what Lukaku has faced?

You're right, Suarez's early stats are clearly skewed by operating in the inferior Dutch league. I mean, we all saw how he struggled when he came to play in the Premiership didn't we...

Lukaku won't ever be good enough to tie his shoelaces.

At age 24 Suarez had already scored over a 100 goals for Ajax, won their player of the year twice in consecutive seasons, been awarded Dutch Footballer Of The Year, (single-handedly) got his national team to the last four of the World Cup, and won Player Of The Tournament at the Copa America. 

Lukaku is going to have to go hell for leather over the next year to eighteen months if he wants to keep young Louis' achievements in sight. 

As for looking further ahead, if he doesn't up his game drastically, Rom's part in this whole Godfather Part II style portrayal of two men at the 'exact same' stages in life is going to go to rat shit quicker than Michael Corleone's 'family' rhetoric after Fredo sat himself down in a rowing boat for a bit of night fishing with Al Neri.

Don Louis' deeds include being crowned:

PFA Player's Player Of The Year

FWA Footballer OF The Year

Premier League Golden Boot Winner

European Golden Shoe Winner (not once, but twice).

Can anyone suggest, with any confidence at all, that young Capo Lukaku is going to go on to claim even one such award? 

"And what about Suarez often getting suspended and unable to contribute at all to his team, something he was criticized for often by his Ajax manager. Lukaku has played in just about every damn match.."

Well, what about it? Despite his abhorrent actions and feral fairground worker face, I don't think Suarez could ever be accused of a lack of effort or simply downing tools in a game the same way Lukaku did during the closing stretch of this past season. If he had have flew into a rage, lamped someone, or come over all Cannibal Holocaust on his closest marker, racking up a subsequent ban, at least then Rom would have had a justifiable excuse for going missing for a couple of months. Whilst he may have physically plonked himself out on the pitch for "just about every damn match", he certainly didn't put anything approaching full effort into all of them. 

On the question of when they were promoted perhaps I should have been more explicit about when I started watching the Blues which was 1961/62 season - the season they won the seconds division.

As for seeing them relegated - I don't think I will but I do live in hope that I will once again see us hammer them at Mordor and maybe even PSG in the Champions League.

Everton flex their new financial muscle in a quiet yet forceful manner by securing the services of one of the best managers in the Premier League, much in the way Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea do. Lukaku's agent suddenly starts spouting that Lukaku may stay this season.

Top and tail is that the whole exercise by Lukaku's agent is to get his client a bumper pay rise – it's simply business. As a cash-rich club, we now need to adopt a cash-rich mentality and that means having to deal with bellend agents talking up a deal for their clients.

Lukaku is a young lad who unfortunately (a) has a wanker of an agent, and (b) an even bigger wanker of a dad, both permanently in his ear. My son is 21 and daft as a brush but benefits from wise counselling of his family; Lukaku doesn't have that luxury and so believes the hype being drip-fed to him.

I for one would like to see him stay and am sure Koeman will knock some sense into him and his daft advisors. If he doesn't, he will go for a big transfer fee and crash and burn somewhere.