“All You Need is Just a Little Patience…”

I would like to add passion, commitment and vocal support to a little patience.

COYBs!!!

And the title says it all: patience.

I truly hope all Evertonians – especially the ones with the most effect in and around your beloved city of Liverpool – give this man as shit-ton of rope.

We simply have to be patient with Marco Silva. This is a project, not a three-month trial. We have a young, hungry, well thought of manager who will need time and patience to grow this Club into what it is capable of.

The beast sleeps no longer. But it may take some time to slowly awake from a long nightmarish slumber.

Patience.

I have a really good feeling about our next new direction. It seems like Silva was prepped well for his first interviews and seemed to know already that the type of football we all want to see is "entertaining" and without the nervous tic of the ball being constantly passed sideways and backwards.

I wish Silva and Brands only the best for a quick and lasting impact on our club. Listening to Marco's interview, I couldn't help noting that 'important' is now the new 'phenomenal'!

A "three-month trial" gets Silva through August. Sounds about right.

Some folks here may not be willing to give him even that long.

If we don't like the way the managers looks, speaks, dresses, combs his hair etc...we should be able to vote him out.

Whatever you do Marco (and future Everton managers) don't read TW. It could be bad for your health.

I thought we were trying to cut down on the excessive spending? Haven't we wasted enough money on long-term managerial appointments?

Also: "...and Manchester United did under Sir Alex Ferguson before the Heysel ban took hold." ?? Shouldn't that read: "...and Manchester United did under Sir Alex Ferguson during the 1990s."? As Ferguson arrived at Old Trafford during the ban & won his first piece of silverware there at the end of it, enabling Man Utd to play in & win the European Cup-Winners Cup.

I have been reading many good pieces about Marco Silva recently. Notably Lyndon's piece a few weeks ago.

He's got a lot about him. Past players he has managed rate him very highly.

This is where the penny dropped for me that this guy might just be that extra special coach. Maybe this guy has the potential to win everything, he certainly thinks he will, and maybe he can take us to the promised land on his way there.

Silva & De Boer have very similar playing styles so I just hope his man management skills allows him to get this new ethos over to the squad quickly.

After one interview? Give me a break. And more importantly, give our new manager a break and get behind him.

I remember Martinez's first interview well. He had a cheap Swiss Tony suit on and him and our Chairman were practically necking the gob off each other whilst promising the Champions League.

Marco Silva had some training gear on yesterday, I think, which is a good start in my eyes.

Good luck to our new manager. You know what you have to do.

Targeted and measured recruitment is the line for me.

There have been many failings at the club but the fact that we failed to get a striker in after selling the Premier League's second-highest scorer was the biggest. Playing half a season without a left back a distant but significant second. Thirdly hiring about six No 10s.

Whatever the politics or communication failures at the club were that should never have happened and must never happen again.

Marco Silva will know where we are deficient. Marcel Brands must get the agreed players in efficiently. All the time pruning where required.

The reality is the “recruitment season” starts now, Brands is the main man for this period. Next season will be shaped by Brands' achievements over the next 10 weeks.

Well, sorry but no. In the same way as many didn't want Allardyce and would never give him a fair shot then I feel the same about Silva.

He wasn't good enough at Hull (where he got them relegated), he wasn't good enough at Watford (where he was sacked only last season) so why is he suddenly good enough for us?

Don't give me excuses about us having better players or being a bigger club or having more money to spend now. If he was good enough he would have done it at Hull or Watford before.

Robert Martinez and Mike Walker Mk II. We will be languishing around the bottom 3 come Christmas and he will be out of the door. Mind you at you at least you will all have had some of the entertaining football you are obsessed with as we lose each game 4-3 or 3-2. Results matter not how pretty you look while getting them.

I think it bodes well when so many of his ex-players are suggesting that he will be a 'great fit' at Everton.

Get rid of the dead wood.

Bring in hard working, skilled and determined newbies, whilst offering the talented youth a chance.

Make Seamus captain.

Show respect, commitment and passion for our club; try and develop us into the best we can be – and you'll be loved Marco.

The optimism vibe is beginning to quiver.

COYB. 😀

I just hope those of us who seem to make a point of expressing deep reservations on anyone before they're even appointed will allow them three transfer windows before getting on their case because I have a feeling there's more than a few at Finch Farm who are quite beyond being improved by even the best coaching unfortunately.

It could well be the right time to make Seamus captain.

Jags club captain!

I am crying out for a manager with the right balance of pragmatism and ambition – who will make sure the defence is drilled and prepared but have a plan to do more than simply nullify the opposition.

He should also be flexible enough to change approach to suit the circumstances – recognise when plan A is bust and adjust. I hope Silva will be that manager.

It's no good going over Marco's pluses and minuses. We have who we have. I don't care whether he gets 'Everton' or not. He's here to manage the team not wallow in nostalgia. Kites don't fly with yesterday's wind.

However, he comes across a passionate man so Bally's Everton magic will touch him eventually.

Having endured the experience of the last two managers, we, like Icarus, have come crashing down to earth for daring to fly too close to the sun. I like to think I am a realist and pragmatic. I will still, however, have my Everton hopes and dreams.

I would be pleased if he puts a balanced side out on the pitch. That they are fit enough to play and last for more than 90 minutes. That they have some urgency about them, not headless chickens. That their passing triangles move the ball forward not backwards or sideways and that when an Everton player passes the ball it goes to another Everton player. That he gets some neck supports for them so their heads don't keep dropping. That our younger players and those out on loan can see that they will have opportunities here. That more talented players will see us as a place to progress and that this is the place to be.

I want the world to see that the Phoenix is rising once again. I want a lot more for my club and team but I'm trying to be realistic.

There's nothing more to say or do, let the games begin.

Jaime 18 hits the nail on the head. I am totally unsure why Victor sees shades of Martinez. Apart from an Iberian name and an unremarkable playing career, I see no similarities at all.

I think and hope this is a turning point. The Watford debacle has seen his stock drop, but I have confidence. At the time, I questioned why a guy of his reputation went there anyway. Palace were an infinitely better option of he wanted to jump straight back in.

Like Steve Ferns has pointed out, this guy is lauded by players and peers. His work in Portugal and Greece really deserved him a better gig than Hull. What he did when he got there was nothing short of remarkable. To get them to 34 points on the back of losing key players, replacing them with the likes of Matkovic and Niasse, speaks volumes. A coach who wants to make his name at Everton. He will get my total support and time.

My own expectations for next season:

1. Finish in the Top 7 with a point difference of not more than 6-8 points from the 6th place team.
2. Have a positive Goal Difference (this for me is a real indication of progress).
3. Beat Liverpool in one of the derbies
4. Beat one of last season's Top 6 at their ground
5. See the nucleus of a young dynamic team emerging with a signature playing style and a good team ethic
6. Get into the semi-finals of one of the Cups
7. Don't get beaten by more than 3 goals in any match
8. Get down the average age of the starting XI to 26 or less.

Who knows, I might be pleasantly surprised?

Patience is most definitely the key and I'm sure Silva will be granted such, as long as we can get a sight of the direction he and Brands are taking us. We will need to see in the short term, a little more courage, attacking intent and signs that some of those who didn't turn up for the last manager at least showing up for this one.

Optimism with a dose of patience is the order of the day.

It's reported that Rooney was on anything between 𧵎k to 𧵬k a week, because some soppy bastard wanted to 'bring our boy home' and atone for flogging him 13 years ago to the first buyer who could save his empire from crumbling. That's three first-team players' wages, for someone who is clearly finished at this level. Bill has always been professional at one thing, spending other people's money. I'm pleased to see Moshiri has cut that little fairy-tale short. Another plus.

Then we come to the DoF, he's held Walsh to account. The worst thing to ever happen to this club. Over 𧶲M since his arrival, and we've ended up with a decent goalie. What a colossal fuck-up he was. He wouldn't even get his old job back as a PE teacher after the mess he left here.

I am optimistic, because Moshiri could have hung on to Sam Allardyce. It's cost a lot of money to get rid of our last three managers, so fair play to the man. He's leading this club from the front at last.

What are you doing posting on this forum? You are in the wrong place.

Balanced, realistic targets? A reasoned approach? Go away you fool. Most on here will hound you out like the softie, tree hugging, herbal tea drinking liberal you clearly are.

But well said. Couldn't have put it better myself.

Also: "... and Manchester United did under Sir Alex Ferguson before the Heysel ban took hold." ?? Shouldn't that read: "... and Manchester United did under Sir Alex Ferguson during the 1990s."?

No. Read it again. The reference to the timing of Heysel was its impact on us – not the Mancs.

As long as we're playing good football come October and November, I can accept 2019-20 as the season we look for a move upward.

I can remember in 1985 Shadow Chancellor Roy Hattersley taking the piss out of Tory Chancellor Geoffrey Howe in the House of Commons:
"The Chancellor is strutting around as if the UK were the Everton of world economies, whereas we are more like Stoke City" or words to that effect.

Let's hope for kinder opening fixtures than last season so that he can build up some brownie points.

The gap between us and 6th needs to be closed. Chelsea and Arsenal also have big summers ahead of them, both could easily slip down the league.

We all know our issues on the pitch, unbalanced squad not enough goals or even quality players in certain positions. I don't think those issues can be corrected without transfers.

We need an efficient transfer window focused on quality. Keep Jim White out of the picture until the deals are done last summers dealing made us look like right mugs.

I do feel optimistic about the appointment given the alternative was Big Sam for another year. His team's like to attack with energy so let's hope for more of the same.

Watford were good to watch early last season though they did look dodgy at the back. Our home game against them was my game of the season drama until the last kick.

Silva likes his sides to play the ball forward when at all possible. He gets his sides to pass the ball ahead of the receiver so as to build up forward momentum.

De Boer, on the other hand, plays things very slow and methodically. His style was so dour, boring, and ineffective that he was told very early on in his short tenure that he'd have to change his methods and style.

We are not waiting on them coming off there extended holiday (like Koeman), away at the World Cup (like Martinez) or sorting out things from a poolside, not as hot as Dubai, as Big Sam would have done over the Summer with another year of his contract to run.

A short holiday maybe, we are not that bad.

The main thing is that there is an atmosphere conducive to preparing a squad for next season and we have a well directed transfer window.

Most important of all – Good Luck to Everton.

Lyndon, surely Guardiola doesn't belong on this list?! He played for Barcelona nearly 300 times, he played for Spain 47 times, he won the European Cup, La Liga 4 times! Oh, and he was captain of Barcelona also!

Apart from that, good article!

Welcome to the jungle.

Alternatively if you worked in the volatile football management/coaching arena, were you can be summarily sacked after 6 poor results, I think you might want the security/continuity of at least a 3-year deal.

When you have impatient shotgun owners (not too mention the fans), this is the inevitable result.

1. A brand of football I can watch without throwing up

2. Finishing above any one of the following: Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal

And point 2 for me is important. Arsenal will be in transition, Chelsea is frankly a bit of a mess, and I'm praying Pochettino upsets the Spurs applecart and leaves for Real Madrid. We need to penetrate these media favorites / top 6. If we don't, the footballing world will keep telling us we're delusional and belong with Leicester, West Ham and Burnley.

And that is annoying as hell.

So first part of plan, Koeman and Walsh failed badly. To be honest I never expected that pair to be so poor. Neither, I suspect, did Farhad or many on TW.

I think this sharp businessman learned that the club needed bigger organisational changes after those two as well as a second go at changes in coaching. Good business people learn from experience.

The change in powerbase is crucial and I think the first person Silva thanked being Farhad and not BK speaks volumes.

I think the "sweet old Everton with a long history is over and expect some tough company management and coaching.

When we hopefully move to new stadium some will be sad but I recall the thrill of our groundbreaking new Main Stand at Goodison. In those days we took risk.

I think we may be about to take planned risks again and I love, just love that.

Vacancy: Long running soap based in Manchester. Older nice-man character who campaigns for retention of cobbled streets. Former actors particularly welcome.

COYB

Arsenal– new Manager with big shoes to fill and they're not a patient lot in West London

Spurs/Liverpool – be surprised if Madrid don't go for Pochettino or Klippity; which will hopefully unsettle them both

Chelsea – Can't imagine Roman is the kind of guy to take his visa refusal lying down; will be an interesting watch. They won't be cheap if he decides to sell and that could hinder their involvement in the transfer market

United – Mourinho is already complaining about his transfer budget and distancing himself from his players after the FA Cup Final. Not a heavenly match, that one.

Opportunity Knocks!

I wonder, however, whether most fans would be truly satisfied by some of those items.

Based on all of these managers and what actually happened – apart from Silva of course – is that we have spent millions on paying each of them off. Money that could have been better spent elsewhere.

Silvas past history indicates his future may be similar to his predecessors.

I hope like all Evertonians that Silva is the real deal and he produces the goods we all crave for.

Silva's ToffeeWeb agent, Steve Ferns, tells us that we will see Silva's attributes almost immediately, before Christmas I think he said.

That being the case and the fact it appears he has been after this job since the Club initially approached him last season you would imagine he is well versed on our weaknesses and strengths. Plus the reported conversations he has had with Brands indicates he has arrived more or less up to speed.

Why would he need further support/confidence from the Club? He has been courted for 6 months !

We were told by the many experts that Tuchel and Emery wouldn't come to us as they were at a different level. Well it seems both these two superstars were only given 2-year deals but we give our second-level boy a 3-year contract.

If he was so determined to come here he should have been given a 2-year deal with 1-year options, in my opinion.

Once bitten, not trice bitten, twice shy.

I hope the training will show in better endurance and stamina on the pitch as in my view the last few years we look knackered after 30 mins and the top 6 can do intense press and fast flowing simple football for most of the 90 plus injury time.

It would be nice to see some flowing football next season, as last season, was dire..

Promise and hope and hopefully some magic, and good times ahead for EFC.

It could all be solved so simply as well, but Moshiri just can't see it... sigh.

On a brighter note... thankfully Big Sham has gone. We might see some decent footy for a change.

It looks increasingly likely in speculation, that he would like Carvalho from Sporting, but I can't see him leaving for anything short of 㿅M.

Let's hope he can rebuild a team for next season but he will have to reduce the current numbers drastically; let's also hope there are a few gems in there too.

Oh, and by the way, that is not a place at the top table, it's the bloody chair at the top of the table – bloodied by all the victims we will tear apart in getting there, including the media. Let's not forget how we have been treated by the so-called pundits and journos. When we are back on top, just tell them all to go do one – that's me being polite, by the way.

Great read as always, Lyndon.

I just now went back to have another look, and so many totally decent posts were just gone...

Oh well, never any bookmark for The Sun, and I'll keep the Echo for the headlines, but not for honesty!

Farhad Moshiri could indeed have kept Sam Allardyce on as the safe option but he didn't and I too respect him for that. He obviously thinks Marco Silva is the real deal and has backed his own judgement with more money.

Jack Convery (#53) – good post – and Lev Vellene (#54) – My dad (God rest his soul) told me in the 60s that "they" didn't like us. I have come to realise over the years he was 100% right.

There is only one way to silence them and that is on the football pitch – and when we do... do it again. That is why Goodison needs to get behind our new manager.

Looking forward to the new season with hope.

Up the Blues!

Everton reminds me of the ancient alchemists and more recently apothecaries. The disease is identified, the cure is sought, you mix your folk knowledge of herbs and remedies in a pestle or crucible and mix and /or heat until the elixir flows and hopefully it cures the illness. If it fails, you clear out your vessel and start again.

I think this is exactly what Mr Moshri is doing. Hopefully, having cleared out his crucible this summer and having filled it with Brands and Silva, the winning formula is found and we can feed it to EFC, returning EFC to the health it enjoyed in the mid 1980s.

From there, the patient will go from strength to strength, to be become the biggest, strongest and most robust patient ever – seeing as patience is the theme of your article.

Marco Silva's in-tray: what is lying in wait for Everton's new manager

I'm not quite sure where Silva's high standing comes from. In England he revived Hull City, but not enough to save them from relegation and as for his sojourn with Watford perhaps we'd better draw a veil over that. However, let's give him the support and hope he can begin the process of making us look like a top six team in a season or two and possibly a top four team in the long-run.

It depends a lot on who he can bring in, but equally depends on who of our dead wood he can send on their way. Let us hope he is our best manager since Kendall Mark 1, because frankly all who succeeded Kendall after his first spell have been at best disappointing and at worst appalling.

Patience is not something the new regime will get. They may be new, but many Evertonians ran out of patience a long time ago. You will of course know this. You are unquestionably right to call for it, but you ain't going to get it.

If we didn't know what Koeman was bringing, we very quickly found out and, after the disappointment of seeing Martinez get himself all tangled up in his own philosophy, I found myself calling for Koeman to be removed about a year before he was actually sacked.

Those calling for a manager to be removed are generally perceived as negative, but I swear, I can't think of anything more negative than supporting and persevering with something/someone which is clearly not working.

Allardyce was different; we knew what we were getting and the lack of patience was, in my view, born out of frustration at the board's lack of imagination.

Silva wouldn't have been my choice, I said so before his appointment, so I can't deny it now, but I do feel a sense of excitement now he is here. As the Irish say about horses who are untried in a particular grade – He could be anything.

The patience you are calling for will depend on the expectation of the individual. Those who expect us to climb 3-4 places will have their patience stretched if we aren't up with the leading pack early doors.

As someone who believes we need to get to the next level before we can think of getting to the "next level", I don't believe the big boys need worry about our points haul come the end of the season.

My expectations are that we will see a club heading in the right direction with a coach who fancies himself, a team which will be pleasing to watch, playing with cohesion and passion... confirming ourselves as seventh best without doing any of the above will simply leave me cold.

Leaving aside the points haul, the very least I expect to see will be signs that we are improving our image as a club by wanting to win football matches again, against everyone, and I am putting all my support behind this new team to achieve this.

Patience? Being as I set the bar relatively low, I feel I am entitled to be less patient than those who set it high. If I don't see an improvement on recent performances and attitude, I'll be screaming the fucking house down long before the kids are buying pumpkins and wearing witches hats.

My remit for the new season is...

1. Win a derby... with style.
2. Don't get twatted... in any game.
3. The lads give everything, show a will to win, and bust a fucking bollock in just six games & bag us that Trophy! ... yer know the one we throw every season, that the RedShite have won eight times... I repeat, 8 fucking times!!!!

Then and only then... it begins, Blues.

Realistic, achievable aims first!