Rooney seals Everton return on a two-year deal

Sunday 9 July 2017  365 Comments  [Jump to last]

Wayne Rooney was confirmed as an Everton player again today, 13 years after he left Goodison Park for Old Trafford.

The 31-year-old becomes the sixth signing that the Blues have made for the first team so far this summer and comes on the heels of the news that Romelu Lukaku is close to securing a move in the opposite direction in what could end up being a world-record deal.

Rooney was pictured arriving at Finch Farm yesterday to tie up the final details on his move and was filmed leaving again with long-time advisor, Paul Stretford. Confirmation of the two-year deal came earlier today.

Rooney's transfer marks the end of persistent speculation since February that he could return to his boyhood club given that his opportunities at Old Trafford have been waning since he became United's all-time leading goalscorer.

His switch from Old Trafford is officially undisclosed but his value to Man Utd was pegged at around £10m, a fee that might be waived as part of the £100m package that looks to be taking Lukaku up the East Lancs Road. He will reportedly earn £150,000 a week at Everton, a salary that represents a significant pay cut but one which shatters the Toffees' hitherto rigid pay structure.

Rooney made headlines in 2004 when he left Everton in controversial circumstances as a raw but unquestionable star-in-the-making. The deal that took him away from the club he had supported and which groomed him was eventually worth £27m to the Blues while the Croxteth-born striker went on to assemble a huge haul of silverware with the Red Devils.

During his record-setting stint with Man Utd he also became the highest goalscorer in England's history, surpassing Gary Lineker and Sir Bobby Charlton when he registered his 50th international goal.

He arrives back at Goodison with a point to prove to those who argue that his best days are behind him and that his powers are on the wane. For Ronald Koeman, he will offer vast experience and valuable squad depth in an area of the field that has needed strengthening for some time.


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John Smith
1 Posted 08/07/2017 at 12:40:49
Rooney on a two-year deal.
Mark Tanton
2 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:32:17
I was originally a Rooney Skeptic, but I am changing my tune now to be honest. Imagine the influence he'll have over Pickford, Sandro, Keane and Lookman.

I can't wait to see him in blue again now and think we might have done a genius bit of business here. It's a risk but it's exciting.

Brian Hennessy
3 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:35:09
Welcome back, Wayne. Give us a year or two, 15 goals a season (including a couple of winners against our neighbours) and all will be forgiven.

Paul Lid
5 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:40:50
It's a no-brainier for me, he's still got a few years left in him easy, so bring it on, Wayne.

Give us the best football of your final few years in the game. Welcome back. 👍

Peter Murray
6 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:44:12
Once a Blue, Always a Blue!!!

Just give him a chance – please!!!


Liam Young
7 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:47:06
I have always wanted Rooney back, he has the pedigree and experience to inspire the younger lads.

I do understand the fans who still hate him for the badge kissing, but let's face it, we have him a lot of abuse for that to happen and we cashed in at a time we were still struggling.

Let's look at the present and future because it looks incredible for us blues.

Welcome back Wayne, Rooney! Rooney!

Peter Roberts
8 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:50:29
Welcome home, Wayne. This is a divisive signing and you have work to do, but I'm sure playing for us again will reignite the fire in your belly and hopefully win us some silverware.
Kristian Boyce
9 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:50:51
Time to dust off that old Puma No 18 Rooney shirt. Stuck it in storage straight after he left.

If anything, I think this is more of a business deal than a playing move for the club. He's globally known and will promote the Everton brand worldwide.

Give it a couple of weeks and I bet we'll start seeing pictures of him in his new Everton kit everywhere. I guarantee that SportPesa will be plastering his mug all over Africa as well.

Geoffrey Hall
10 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:51:56
Loving this... Sky might actually talk about us now!
Sean Bowman
11 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:51:59
I think this is a great move. Wayne will have a new lease of life and I think he will bring a winning mentality to the squad too. Even though he didn't have a great season last time, he isn't finished in my opinion.

Everyone thought Ryan Giggs was finished at 32/33. Then he had two great seasons for Man Utd after that. If Wayne can have two great seasons for us in the latter part of his career, then there will be a lot of happy times ahead for us Evertonians.

Ben Dyke
12 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:52:21
I'm pleased he's back. Its sad he had to leave to achieve the success his talent deserved. He can add some nous to our creative play and some attitude when we need lifting.

It's rumoured that he's going to be used up front and not in a deeper role. It will be interesting to see him play No 10 for us.

Joseph Terrence
13 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:53:18
One thing that can't be doubted is that he will give his all for the blue shirt. Let's hope he can stay healthy and he will improve the team.

Welcome back, Wayne!

Terence Tyler
14 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:54:53
Yes, some of the pace may be gone, but the brains and heart will still be there. No-one will mug us off while Wayne is playing.

Welcome home, Wayne!

Paul Williams
15 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:55:32
Awesome bit of business. I think he'll play his socks off for Everton.

I get the feeling this is not just about Rooney playing for 2 or 3 years but also the ticket that allows him to stay at the club beyond in whatever capacity.

James Stewart
16 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:56:38
Experience is key, Koeman is amassing a squad of captains mixed with youth which I like. On a free, I don't see what there is to lose personally.

I don't care what anyone on here has to say, the likes of Davies, Kenny, Dowell, Lookman etc will be thrilled to have someone like Rooney at the club.

Drew Shortis
17 Posted 08/07/2017 at 17:58:20
Fantastic bit of business. Reading the comments by the muppets on Twitter, you'd think he was wheelchair bound (though there are plenty of Man Utd fans who seem genuinely gutted he's leaving).

He may not have long left, perhaps two seasons, but he has so much to offer still, not just on the pitch. He's going to be motivated to prove his doubters wrong and secure his last World Cup selection.

He's clearly not just coming to us for one last paycheque as he could get a lot more in China or the US. I believe he will see the potential in Koeman's exciting young squad and want to help get Everton back into the big time.

He has a wealth of European experience and can teach the youngsters a thing or two about handling pressure, especially if we end up challenging for a top four spot near the end of the season.

He may not be the prolific goalscorer he once was, and I hope we get another top striker in (such as Giroud or Dembele) but he could well give us the edge in crucial games where his quality will show. I'm looking forwards to his last hurrah!

Steve Woods
18 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:01:39
Will he be given the captain's armband this season?
David Pearl
19 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:01:40
Yes, they will, James, Ross too maybe. Might be the biggest profile name we could of hoped for at this point in time. Then again, it could also open the door for some other names to follow soon.
John Graham
20 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:01:47
Great player but still a bit unsure what Rooney we are getting. And where we will play him.

He seems to have lost the edge over the last couple of yrs. and does tend to slow the game down a little bit. Hopefully the fact that he is pulling on a blue shirt again will give him a lift and a boost of energy for a year or two.

Anyway, welcome back to a true blue fan.

Tony Dove
21 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:02:25
This deal seems to be a Bill Kenwright-led sentimental journey rather than one based on footballing factors. We have effectively paid £10 million and bust open the club's wages structure. I also hate to think what length of contract he has.

Leaving aside the cost issues he will be good for the club's profile but, on the playing side ,is this just another one in the Ginola, Gascoigne, Sansom mould?

Phillip Mark
22 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:04:19
You know what, if we can manage to get Batshuayi or Giroud plus Sigurdsson with all the other signings we have made (maybe even a top left-back understudy to Baines) this could be a hell of a season.

I don't think Rooney will start all games, but he will inspire all those youngsters as previously said. Everton will become a global name (and maybe even get on MotD first once in a while) I can hear Z-Cars now!

Geoff Evans
23 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:04:59
The best English player in the Premier League by a country mile, for free, awesome. The blue Cantona!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COYB
Dennis Ng
24 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:05:38
Welcome back, Wayne.

On the financial details, I am cautious on giving a bench player £150k per week.

But money aside, this is a very good signing. A leader that our youngsters can look up to and develop that hawkish winning mindset.

David Israel
25 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:06:51
I will only say this: Welcome back, Wayne boy!
Roger Percy
26 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:13:15
Wazza knows his limits. Ronald will too. If he scores the winner at Anfield, I'll have him tattooed on my children's foreheads!
Dermot Byrne
27 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:13:32
My heart always rules my head. I see some great moments including the club's first goal of the season by yer man. I couldn't really give a shit about the validity of the rational arguments made by the TW statisticians and foosball professors. This is just for a bit of blue fun.
Andy Tudge
29 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:14:42
I don't know how I feel about this – it's a bit like your bird leaving you for the bigger bloke down the road (albeit with smaller balls) and then coming back when the marriage has gone stale and she needs a comforting bed to sleep in.

That said, he's still class and I would love to see him drill one past the RS at the next derby.

You also have to consider that Moshiri and Koeman are no mugs and wont be doing this to sell shirts or out of some sense of nostalgia – let's keep a watching brief and judge come October how wise a decision this is.

Brian Hennessy
30 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:15:31
I see Rom has been arrested in the States, unbelievable.
Stewart Lowe
31 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:15:41
I think he should be made captain straight away. Isn't it funny how we have lacked a decent leader in years, as the likes of Jagielka were never captains, but now we have taken 3 captain's away from their clubs in Keane, Klaassen and now Rooney. COYB
Kim Vivian
32 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:18:03
Well pleased with this. Rooney is a very determined and driven character and his desire to prove he still can cut it at the top level, the experience and player respect he will bring, and of course the commercial benefits make this a trump of a signing. I can indeed see him collecting the captain's armband at some stage.

I think he will surprise a lot of people over the next couple of years or so, and then will still have plenty to offer the club ongoing if his playing days are waning. ('Scuse the pun).

Kristain (#8) – Hope it still fits, mate... Not a dog's chance in my case.

Tom Bowers
33 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:18:22
One thing we have to remember is that very few players set the the World alight when returning for a second spell at the same club but I hope Wayne is definitely an exception.
David Pearl
34 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:18:52
Ashley Williams from last year too.

Looks like Wayne has had his hair line touched up That will make him look younger, and play better too. Obviously.

Brian Furey
35 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:21:27
Maybe he lost the edge playing for Man Utd that he knew for some time now he wanted to come back home. If he was playing well, Man Utd would not be so keen to sell him.

I think his kids are a big part of this in that he wants them to grow up remembering their dad playing for Everton, not Man Utd. He's a scouser through and through and can you imagine in 15 years his sons playing in our academy.

SportsPesa and Moshiri must be delighted as he will raise their profile hugely. Moshiri has already changed how Everton are viewed and Sky will be all over Rooney's debut and big games.

Darryl Ritchie
36 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:22:18
Not taking the goals into account, I would rather have an older, kinda chunky player who actually gives a shit, than a young ripped one who, more often than not, didn't.

The new players coming in should (hopefully} score enough to make up the for the loss of Lukaku's least that's the plan.

Anthony Hawkins
37 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:23:00
What's going to happen to Jagielka? Imagine removing him as club captain? That would be extremely harsh and only be remedied if he made a move back to Sheffield Utd. You don't just buy a new captain with the old one still there.

On the basis he is arriving, I welcome Rooney and hope to see him perform his best in Blue.

James Morgan
38 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:24:30
I wasn't massively keen at first but getting him on a two-year deal and his wages although very high, not on the ridiculous level he was on at Man Utd.

His powers may be diminishing, but as a winning and experienced creator and goal scorer who knows what it means to pull on the blue shirt, it could rub off on the likes of Sandro and Klaassen.

Ron Marr
40 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:29:06
"Foosball professors" hilarious. Welcome back Wayne! Hope you play at least good enough to make that World Cup squad.
Ajay Gopal
41 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:29:46
This is fantastic news – I genuinely think this will be a turning point in Everton's history. Welcome back, Wayne! So much to look forward to this season, can't wait for it to begin.
Stewart Lowe
42 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:33:32
Anthony (#36): I don't know why people would have sympathy if Jagielka lost the captaincy?? You hardly ever hear him screaming at players on the pitch. As much as he has served us well over the years, I have always seen Jagielka as timid, shy, rarely looks up or at the camera when he is being interviewed.

I think he was just the best out of what we had available, but what we have been crying out for is a stand-out captain who is a big voice and with a bid personality that us fan's can all see.

Peter Fearon
43 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:33:58
The only influence he is likely to have on young players is to teach them to look after Number One, find the most corrupt agent he can find and follow the money.

If Rooney really is coming back then I hope he does well because anything else would be humiliating for the club. I am one of those who believes the old banner: "Once a blue, now a red, in our hearts Wayne, you are dead."

However, once he pulls on the shirt, he's entitled to a chance to convince everyone. Right now, I'm not convinced.

Liam Reilly
44 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:36:37
Reeks of sentiment to me, but now he's back, let's see what he can do.

If he's wearing the shirt, he'll have my support.

Peter Lee
45 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:39:28
Remember when Ian Rush dumped the reds for pastures new?

I know it was only for a season, Ian didn't realise that that those Eyetalians spoke a different language, apparently, but he didn't get stick for coming back.

Geoff Evans
46 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:41:21
Still one of the best Premier League players around and definitely the best English player around. Great player, great signing.
Stewart Lowe
47 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:58:51
How could we ever blame Rooney back then for moving on? He would have won as much silverware staying with Everton as Shearer did for staying at Newcastle most of his career. Admirable yes, but you win bugger all.
John Hammond
48 Posted 08/07/2017 at 18:59:32
Seems like £150k a week for sentiments sake. Really hope he proves me wrong.

I wonder if Koeman's plan is to start him up front for the Europa League qualifiers? Anyone we sign now won't be ready, even the likes of Sandro – needs a rest, new club etc.

Paul Ferry
49 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:01:36
Peter Fearon (#42):

"The only influence he is likely to have on young players is to teach them to look after number one, find the most corrupt agent he can find and follow the money – I am one of those who believes old banner: once a blue, now a red in our hearts Wayne you are dead."

What rot!

Remember this is the same Peter Fearon who wrote not one but two articles calling for Koeman to go – before Christmas!

"In our hearts, Wayne, you are dead."

'Our' hearts?

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Peter Fearon, the spokesman of generations, the voice of Evertonians everywhere, and the representative voice of calm, cool, and calculated reason.

You ain't dead in my heart, Wayne lad, so that's at least one hole in 'our'.

David Hallwood
50 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:06:02
Peter (#42), The bald fact is that the Rooney sale saved Everton as we were going under and the money we got from the sale paid the creditors.

People get a touch jilted at the altar about it but we were in a dark place at the time.

That being said, I'm 50/50 about this one but I think the Lukaku sale is a great piece of business

Colin Glassar
51 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:12:40
I think Rooney will be club captain, at least, but I'm sure Jags would be more than happy to hand over the arm band if asked.
Jamie Crowley
52 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:16:04
This, "he's lost an edge" and, "he's not as quick as he once was" sentiment(s) baffles me.

What I saw was a player in Rooney who was Man Utd's best player on the pitch just about every time he played. I think he's still got two to three very good years in him. And he'll mitigate the lost goals from Rom leaving.

I see a player who fell out of favor with an arrogant manager, and then benched for the most part.

Remember, Mourihno let Lukaku go, and he just paid stupid money for him!

I think Wayne Rooney will be gold returning to Goodison. And I divorce all nostalgia and romance from that statement. There's still a ton of talent in that man's body, and it'll be unleashed for his Club like a tempest.

So says I!!!

Clive Mitchell
53 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:19:52
I'm not sure this is a good idea, but I agree with those who say it's exciting, it will promote the club around the world and it may inspire the youngsters. And with Barry, Rooney, Schneiderlin, Williams and Coleman around Goodison, we're not going to get bullied.
Ian Linn
54 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:24:26
Great news!
Jamie Morgan
55 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:26:01
Divided opinions now need to be put aside! I for one have always wanted him back.

But it's as good as confirmed, he's a winner and an Evertonian... so now we get behind him like we Blues always do when you put our special shirt on! Good luck and welcome home!

Simon Bates
56 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:27:16
I seriously think Moshiri has a touch of genius about him.

First, the Koeman and Walsh acquisitions: yeah, it started slowly, Walsh with Gana then Lookman, Koeman attracting Schneiderlin again, add now Klaassen, Keane and Sandro saying Koeman was a major factor in their being here, Walsh with Onyekuru and pouncing on Pickford, plus some quiet U23 signings.

Now he's adding the Rooney effect, which will be nothing but massive worldwide exposure we can only dream of at the moment.

Add to this the timing, knocking Lukaku's world reocrd breaking robbery sideways and sharing the back pages, oh how Rom will love that, showing Everton are in control of our own dealings, on our own terms.

Like I say, a touch of genius!!!
John G Davies
57 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:29:26
Wayne will give us more than Ross has given us this past season. More guile, sees a pass better and will offer more of a goal threat.

Sell Ross for circa £25 million. Pay Wayne's wages for two years out of the transfer fee and still have a £12 million plus profit.

Malcolm Stout
58 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:30:08
Well for the first time I'm glad I live nearly 500 miles away. My one or two annual visits will cease while Shrek is still anywhere around Goodison. Anybody know how long the contract is likely to be?

And I was so hopeful I would manage an away game in Europe this season. Saddest day in 40 years.

Brent Stephens
59 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:35:35
Welcome back, la! You'll enjoy the reception you get at Goodison Park!
David Israel
60 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:41:24
David 49, I couldn't agree more. Most people seem to forget the dire straits we were in, back when Rooney was sold. There probably was no other way of averting a full-blown financial crisis at Everton. I think it can be said that Wayne Rooney, however unwittingly, helped to save Everton in 2004.

Like I said elsewhere, I'm giving him a big welcome.

Jim Wilson
61 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:42:54
The bad apple has left to be replaced by a gem!

If he gets the winner in a derby, icing on the cake.

Welcome back, Wayne!

Mike Corcoran
62 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:43:50
I can almost feel the spittle hitting me from the naysayers. I never held his decision to move against him and enjoyed his successes as a boy done good.

I think he'll come back and put a bomb up the arse of the team and Goodison. Can't wait.

Eddie Dunn
63 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:46:51
I welcome him back with open arms. He is a class act and will contribute to the Everton cause, and when he bangs in his first goal at Goodison, the whole place will erupt. COYBs!
John Audsley
64 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:47:14
His sale saved the club from going under in 2004.

He will be a leader on the pitch and not accept 2nd best.

It's about time we had some guts in this team, that's more than enough for me.

Peter Roberts
65 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:47:19
This is either Koeman's Barry signing or Eto'o signing. Two old geezers, both whom most thought were done. One's been a revelation, the other flopped.

I hope Rooney is the former. This isn't a purely business deal although the commercial and profile upsides of having the England captain and all-time goalscorer are massive.

Koeman said as far back as March he'd be interested in having Rooney on the books so he must see something in football terms and I hope it works for his sake.

Eric Paul
66 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:48:57
I never had a problem with Rooney leaving – albeit two seasons too soon. What I have a problem with is the way he behaved in a Man Utd shirt at Goodison Park.

Welcome back, Wayne – albeit two seasons too late.

Dean Cooper
67 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:50:41
I think Wayne will be the last of our forward summer signings. Blue or not, he's not coming back to sit on the bench, so that leaves us with: Rooney, Sandro and Calvert-Lewin. I don't know much about Sandro, but would you rather those or Lukaku, Kone and Valencia?

I think our new three tbh, plus we've added goals to midfield with Klaassen. You can't argue that our squad hasn't been drastically improved without too much of a net outlay. Exciting times to be a Blue!

Steve Jones
68 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:57:30
Agreed Peter #64. Naturally this is a emotive issue for Evertonians and one that predates Koeman's association with the club. We're missing the fact that Koeman, without the emotive baggage, has signed off on this. He's seeing some role for the lad at least.

I'm not sure that the resources we're going to put in to Wayne couldn't be better used, but, he is a true blue, he's proven that, and he will be well placed to influence the young lads coming through.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. We really do need a pacey striker like Dembele to complete a front three now though.

Pete Cross
69 Posted 08/07/2017 at 19:59:42
Didn't we have team and club captains some time ago? Jags would be ideal as club captain. .
Colin Metcalfe
70 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:00:15
First day at Finch Farm changing room:

"Alright there lads the, The Big Man is Back!"

Turns to young Tom Davies. "Ah, mate, ye couldn't do us favour and get us meat & potato pie with chips from the canteen cud ye? Go'ed lad, here's a tener – keep the change."

Martin Jamieson
71 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:00:16
I think this is just brilliant! Thrilled that he's coming 'home'. He may be 31 but put a blue shirt on this guy with the Everton crest on the front and just watch – it'll be like he's 16 again.

Well done, Everton, and welcome home, Wayne!!

Jay Harris
72 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:04:16
I hope you're not disappointed, Jamie.

I don't know how many Man Utd games you watched last season but, having watched almost all of their games, I can honestly say when ever Rooney played he was a shadow of his former self and certainly was not their best player.

Herrera, Carrick, Mata, Blind and Ibramovic when he played were consistently head and shoulders above Rooney. IMO.

Paul Williams
73 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:04:43
Joy and sadness at this one. What could have been. The Gerard we never had. Feel like I've been reunited with a great ex lover, sex culminating in this orgasm:

And now we know we are right for each, wrinkles etc accepted but forever together for the next 40 years plus...

Mike Gaynes
74 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:05:59
Colin, you're a funny dude.
Steven Jones
76 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:08:08
Jamie Crowley (#51) – Love your post, absolutely spot on.

Wayne's thinking and touches in that Man Utd team were beyond the rest for the players speed of thinking and understanding.

Even more so, I would say that he had lost the love of Man Utd and "The Mancs" when the fans turned against him – and Alex had marginalised him a number of times, first when Ronaldo was allowed to run with the ball but Wayne was asked to pass, release and do a job down the left or right.

Then came the contract renewals and he has for a long time – probably after 2-3 years – not celebrated with their fans after a goal – he would run to a corner, look up to the sky and then back to his players. I believe he hated the Man Utd crowd.

I also believe he was in a prison – EFC were not able to provide the cash to get him out of there – Moshiri and USM have change that. Again, it is not Wayne's fault – he has got his wish.

I hope to see a rejuvenated Rooney and all that he can bring... too much to list. It is a Lawton '39 moment; it is the First World War stopping a great Everton side; it is the Heysel disaster and Kendall and the team going off. This is as big a turnaround as those moments... and this time, it is our way!!

Awesome times ahead!!! It is bringing tears to my eyes reading each post welcoming Wayne back . and hearing my son (9 years old) – who loves each signing – say "Well, if Rooney Signs – does that mean we have a party to celebrate!?!"

That's what it means all over the world for Evertonians and those that like and admire us. We are back!!!!

Des Farren
77 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:09:39
Rooney is the best English centre-forward I have seen in my lifetime. He will give his all.

Who cares if it is sentimental to want him back? I am.

David Israel
78 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:27:05
Steven (#75), That's exactly it! It may not turn out spectacularly well, but boy, is this a shot in the arm!
Kevin Rowlands
79 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:37:52
Absolutely made up with this!

Don't forget, he hardly played last season so will be coming in fresh and hopefully highly motivated.

I'd also like to think this will help in getting Ross to sign a new contract.

Eugene Kearney
80 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:41:53
Does anyone know exactly how the figures (£££) work out on these deals? Factoring in Rooney's wages, etc .

How much do we/will we make out of swapping Lukaku for Rooney?

Rick Tarleton
81 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:47:54
No, no, no. He could have come back three years ago and given us something, now he's a reserve player from another team that didn't qualify for the Champions League.

He has little to offer that will improve our quality and sentimental hogwash that many correspondents are offering won't change that. The man is three years past his prime and is hoping to be the returning gunslinger; it won't happen.

Colin Metcalfe
83 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:49:27
I think this will be seen by many as a gamble by the club and a lot of people will be interested to see how he gets on.

We have just let go the most prolific goal scorer we have had in the Premier League era and in return we get a player with his best years behind him however it is a a risk for Rooney as well , he knows very well he will have to perform and Goodison will be in his back if he doesn't!

Rooney could have had an easy last few years in the MLS or China but he has chosen to join the blues and make no mistake he will want to impress and I think he will. Yes he is not the same player but then again he not the same young kid that left 13 years ago, he has matured and brings a wealth of experience and will want to be in tip top shape as he will want to probe the doubters wrong.

I welcome him back and I believe he will be a true professional and be good positive influence and a great ambassador for the club!

Mat Smith
84 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:51:07
I don't care what anyone says, I can't wait to see him run out wearing the shirt again!

I think he'll be great role model for some of the young lads and I'm actually getting excited for the first derby – we may finally have someone on the pitch who has passion and actually wants to win it!

Eddie Dunn
85 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:57:37
Rick Tarleton, Man Utd did qualify for the Champions league, by winning the Europa League.

He is not a reserve player – he lost his place after injury... get a grip!

I think Lukaku was a reserve player at Chelsea when we got him though!

Steve Guy
87 Posted 08/07/2017 at 20:58:23
People are entitled to their opinion of course, but those going on about how Rooney is over the hill etc etc are grating on me. My opinion, to which I am equally entitled, is that his return is the best thing this Club we love has done in a decade. He will inspire on and off the pitch.

I was privileged to be in the Upper Bullens on the day he scored his "worldie" v Arsenal and have looked on in envy at his displays for Man Utd; not least his MotM v us in the FA Cup semi-final. I for one can't wait to see his first run-out in an Everton shirt again.

Graham Mockford
88 Posted 08/07/2017 at 21:04:38
Just looking at today's pics and I think he looks noticeably trimmer than I've seen him for a long time. Certainly compared to the picture on the original post


Reports are he has been in the gym every day on his holidays. Maybe we might just get a rejuvenated player. Because, if he gets even close to three years, ago it will be a great bit of business.

Colin Glassar
89 Posted 08/07/2017 at 21:05:11
Rene Muelenstein reckons Rooney needs to be somewhere where he is wanted to get his mojo back. He says Rooney has still got a few good years left in him.
Steven Astley
90 Posted 08/07/2017 at 21:18:48
If you're feeling negative about this move (which I'm not) then the way to think about it is... remember the position we were in and the quality of player we were getting when we brought Jeffers back.

Now compare that with where we are now and what we feel Rooney can still offer.

Rick Tarleton
91 Posted 08/07/2017 at 21:21:41
For God's sake, Steve, that was 15 years ago!

Do you really think that, at 31, he's still that player?

Brian Williams
92 Posted 08/07/2017 at 21:31:15
Will he run out, or be assisted out? ;-)

On a different note, it seems there's interest in both McCarthy and Barry from other Premier League clubs!!

Grant Rorrison
93 Posted 08/07/2017 at 21:40:01
Graham (#87).

Yep, his head looks in great shape on that pic. Promising signs. :P

Neil Payne
94 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:09:28
If anyone has any doubts about what he will bring to Everton watch this

Ian Burns
95 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:10:55
I have always wanted Rooney to succeed be it for Utd or England, simply because I wanted him to be successful as a blue and English. I wanted him to be seen as a world great although he unfortunately fell well short at the Messi type level.

However I don't want him back. I have read all of the reasons why he should return but for me the football reasons simply don't stack up and I fear a major disappointment when we see 5 or 6 games in, sentiment got in the way of reality.

Paul Williams
96 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:16:29
FFS wake up TW webbers. This is not about x million for a player. You cannot buy the greatest English player last 10 years now associated as Everton through and through. There is far more here going forward.
Shane Corcoran
97 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:19:40
Can't believe what I'm reading. Club captain? He's been utter garbage for the last couple of seasons. His performance for England against Iceland at the Euros was one of the worst individual performances I can remember. Nothing to do with fitness or pace. He couldn't pass to his own players.

And all this passion he has. Is that when he drowns the referee in saliva when a decision goes against him or where he gives away a foul chasing back after being dispossessed? And he's willing to get, what, £100k a week for this?

It's nauseating. I was struggling to accept but the red carpet treatment for a lad that wouldn't give us a couple of years of his career has me looking to local sport for my entertainment.

Dave Pritchard
98 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:20:40
Paul, people don't need to wake up just because they have a different view to yours.
Colin Grierson
100 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:26:20
Sam Barrett, get off the fence lad!
William Twigg
102 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:30:53
You know what, I am loving it. I think that you cannot take away that the lad is/has been world class. If he brings a winning mentality for 2 seasons to The club we will be significantly better off for it.

All-in-all, despite the general opinion that he is on the "wane", I personally ( and it is only an opinion) think it will be a fabulous signing for Everton and I can see the top corner free kick winner against the rs at Anfield, and loving it!!

Phil Bellis
103 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:32:57
Des... you old are you?

As for the prodigal... I think we are, seemingly, a club now run by professionals... Let's see what unfolds.

Not looked forward so much to a new season since we signed Bally... Bring it on!

Gary Reeves
104 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:34:27
Rooney for Barkley gives our team 10% more at a stroke, from a playing perspective. When you consider the extra know-how and "personality" I'd say it was 15%. Absolute no-brainer for me.
Steven Jones
105 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:38:35
Shane 96

"Once a Blue, Always a Blue"

"Rooney – Remember The Name"

They are emotions I have always felt – like hoping Mike Lyons would win us everything; it is the passion and hope of an Evertonian .

I have cried only three times in my life .

When Alan ball left for Arsenal and then when Duncan left for Newcastle and then when we brought Duncan back!

When Wayne signs – I will have a tear in my eye and my son will be so so proud of Everton over Man Utd and Chelsea!

Welcome back Wayne!

Michael Burke
106 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:39:30
Stewart (Stuart), I've had a beer, sorry (#46) Shearer never left Newcastle initially and he had won the Premier League with Blackburn before he moved home. No comparison.

To the other complainers, what is the issue with his age? He is 31. How can you compare that to Ginola or Gazza who were 4/5 years older. I'm their age now. There is a huge difference to that and me 5 years ago!

Eugene Ruane
107 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:41:13
Don't give a fuck what he earns.

Don't give a fuck what he cost (not my money)

He appears to be an Everton player and if that's the case. that's enough for me.

Would I have bought him?

Ummm...Probably not, but if he's an Everton player, he gets my support, unreservedly and I welcome him back and hope he does brilliantly.

Those screaming and carrying on like jilted teens sound like fucking lunatics.

Tie yourself in knots if it makes you feel better (nb: it won't) but if you want to give him down the banks, at least wait until you watched him perform (really badly) for us.

Up the Toffees!

Chad Schofield
108 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:44:43
Personally massively happy if this comes off.

Yes, his wages are hefty... But we need several leaders to compete in competitions – and he's still brilliant.

Brian Wilkinson
109 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:44:57
I would not be too worried, Rooney will be ready, maybe a little slower but still got his football brain.

He has achieved everything possible at Club and country level, the one thing eludes him is Silverwere with Everton, that will be the motivation and he will do everything possible to win something with Everton, don't write the guy off yet, he will be chomping at the bit to pull on the Everton shirt again.

The Derby this year will at least have players with balls who will not lay down.

Shane Corcoran
110 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:47:20
Steven (#104), I'm not sure how your post relates to mine but if Wayne coming back makes you shed a tear of joy then I'm happy for you.

Eugene, you'd be happy if Koeman gave me £100k then?

Who's screaming? It's all in type. I think it's a bad signing from every possible angle. Should I and others not state that or is there a level dissatisfaction that's acceptable?

Sam Hoare
111 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:53:51
It's happening so I will do my very best to get behind him but I have strong doubts about the merits of this move. It reeks of Kenwright rather than Koeman. Heart over head. Hope I'm proved wrong.

Welcome back Wayne.

Andrew Presly
112 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:57:13
The "it's not my money" thing...

If you go to games and fill grounds and make the Premier League "product" what it is, all of that is based on your money and the money of those like you, for example, me.

We all have a voice, don't silence yours unnecessarily.

Colin Glassar
113 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:57:44
Mirror reporting Siggurdsson will be signing next week for £30m. Happy days.
Andy Crooks
114 Posted 08/07/2017 at 22:59:43
I lived in Manchester in the 80s and saw Everton a lot. This is the most enthused I have been since those days. It is just brilliant and I believe Rooney will do us proud.
Colin Glassar
115 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:06:25
The entire sporting world is talking about Everton right now and it's all because of a certain Mr Rooney.
Tony Williams
116 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:14:44
Hope he doesn't kiss our badge!
David Booth
117 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:15:44

Has anyone watched him play in the last two years? And if you (obviously) have, what on earth did you see that made you want him back?

The worst, sentimental, wishful thinking.

If he'd played for any other club than Everton, none of his worshippers on here would touch him with a bargepole.

Welcome back Wayne. No-one else would pay you half as much nowadays, but have millions of pounds on us and can you pretend to be 16 again please?

Can't manage that? Never mind, get caught in possession, clench your fist and swear at the ref a lot and slow the game right down a bit more for us will you. You're a blue – albeit not for the last 13 years – so apparently that will be fine.

I used to think Michael Jackson fans were deluded...

Eugene Ruane
118 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:24:50
Shane, you sound nuts (sorry but you do).

My term 'screaming' is figurative (as you well know) so skip the semantics.

You ask 'Eugene, you'd be happy if Koeman gave me £100k then?'


If me hole, what if he scores a hat-trick against Stoke and goes on to score 30 goals?

What if...anyfuckingthing.

Andrew – The "it's not my money" thing. If you go to games and fill grounds and make the Premier League "product" what it is, all of that is based on your money and the money of those like you, for example, me.

Fine, if you don't agree, don't go.

That was simple wasn't it.

Graham Mockford
119 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:24:55
Wow some people really have got their knickers in a twist on this one.

Maybe give him a couple of months at least. It's a done deal after all

David Pearl
120 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:29:44
He looks like he's lost some excess weight in his face. He's been training a few weeks now already.

He's been used sparingly over the last year. I'm thinking and hoping he's fresh and raring to go. We have nothing else like him in the squad that can pass a ball like he can. Maybe Barry but he's deeper.

It's not all about Rooney though is it. Keene, Pickford, Sandro, Klaassen. All intriguing signings and all of them excite me. A couple more to come in.

Looking forward to the Man Utd game. We are going to beat them.

Si Turner
121 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:30:57
I am made up.

World renowned player.

Scouser & Evertonian.

Improvement on class.

Brian Williams
122 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:41:30
Does anyone know which site the leaked alleged 60,000 stadium illustrations were posted on?
Dean Adams
123 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:44:16

The Mail.

Anthony Jones
124 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:46:46
To all the yay sayers:

Did you actually watch him playing for United or England last season? He has a great football brain but his body is not what it was.

I can see the brand argument but his signing will be at a considerable cost. Massive wages. Holding an attacking slot a more dangerous player could have filled. Squad moral hit by his massive wages.

He was a great player, but I can only see him being successful as a holding midfielder now time has taken its toll.
Peter Fearon
125 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:46:54
Paul Ferry, the fact is that Koeman has actually been statistically less successful than his much maligned predecessor. Don't let the facts stop you being offensive though.

As for the "our" again it was a quote. Obviously you were too young or too high to have been there. Again. Don't let the facts....

Keith Monaghan
126 Posted 08/07/2017 at 23:48:49
Bringing him back is a big mistake & waste of the club's money.

He has done very little on the pitch in the last 2 seasons and his self-inflicted body abuse has caught up with him. His lifestyle as a so-called professional sportsman is a shocking example to put alongside our youngsters.

To those of you who say "Make him captain" – with all due respect, you must be off your trolley. We are signing the Rooney of now, not of 6 years ago -– a totally mis-guided heart-over-head signing by our Bill, just like Gazza, Ginola & Dunc (2nd time round).

Graham Mockford
127 Posted 08/07/2017 at 00:01:20

This one takes the biscuit

"His lifestyle as a so-called professional sportsman is a shocking example to put alongside our youngsters."

This will be the player who has set the example of

Winning the most outfield caps of any English player
Scoring the most England goals ever
Scoring the most Man Utd goals ever
Scoring the most Premier League away goals ever
Scoring the most Champions League goals by a British player.
Winning 5 Premier League titles
Winning 2 League Cups
Winning an FA Cup
Winning a Champions League trophy
Winning a Europa League trophy

What a fucking example that is to set to our youngsters.

Brian Williams
128 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:06:08
Thanks Dean. Looked there but couldn't actually see any plans or anything.
Paul Gallagher
129 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:25:44
Regardless whether or not Rooney delivers on the field for Everton, it's a win win for the club. Rooney's signing will enhance the club globally, a PR success. If Rooney doesn't live up to the billing, sell him on next year.

Rooney's wages would cost less than the Martinez redundancy package or the signing of Niasse. I think Rooney could be the play maker we need short term. Rooney has unfinished business at Everton, he never experience a Merseyside derby win or scored in one. He has probably dreamt off that, and winning a trophy.

Maybe or may not that still rankles with him. Maybe how he left wasn't how he wished his time with his boyhood club to be remembered most for. Or he may just want a retirement package which Everton have provided. We will soon find out.

I hope we go for Timo Werner or even hijack Iheanacho deal from Leicester,sell Mori, McCarthy, Besic, bring in a new Left back, right. Back and centre back as well. We could really challenge for 4th, if we can come out relatively unscathed from the first 5 games.

Hugh Jenkins
130 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:27:58
As many have already said, 2004 – we were on the cusp of where Portsmouth are now.

Wayne Rooney, a life long Blue, but a babe in the wood, in experience, was presented with a choice. Who first put it to him, or how it was put to him, is immaterial.

It was a stark choice. Leave Everton, the club you love – and join Man Utd, and Everton will survive.

Choose to stay at Everton now, and the club will crash out of the Premier league and may, in fact, go out of business.

As a 17-year-old, naive boy and a true blue supporter, in a man's world, with no real advice given except from your "agent", what would you have done?

His "Roy of the Rover's" performance was in him sacrificing his dreams of glory, with his boyhood club, to sell himself to the highest bidder to save his club from shame and humiliation.

He will certainly be welcomed back by me and acknowledged as the man, who's sacrifice let us hang on until Bill found Moshiri.

And now, to complete the circle and the selffulfilling prophecy, Wayne is coming home to help lead us to success, in the modern era of football.

Hugh Jenkins
131 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:33:45
Graham (#126).

Hear, Hear!

Rob Brown
132 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:34:11
Wayne coming back for free is huge for us. He might actually be a able to teach Ross how to play football. He might be past his prime, but he hasn't been playing in his true position for at least 3 years.

Look at when he was at his most prolific he had Van Nisteroy to work with.

I don't think will miss Lukaku. After all, we sold the best striker I've ever seen in the Royal Blue (Lineker), then won the league the next year:

David Graves
133 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:35:36
David @ 116,

I watched him in the FA Cup semi-final – does that count? Performed pretty well then. 10 goals last year and 9 assists. Replicates that and I'll be happy.

David Booth
134 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:40:59
He did have a good game then, David, but what a shame we have to rely on the exception to the rule: listing the occasional game where he does, rather than admitting his overall inconsistency and lack of impact?
Alastair Donaldson
135 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:42:21
I think we have to wait and see how he performs next season, but I'm chuffed he's back. He has a point to prove alright and it'll be interesting to see how Koeman fits him in, but he is quality, there's no doubt about that. A leader on and off the pitch, this is a good business decision at the very least.

The situation is far removed from 13 years ago when he was prised away by Sir Purple Nose and Stretford; of course he's not the same player but we're getting a mature pro who knows what it takes to be successful and has a great opportunity to help us back toward where we should be – challenging.

I hope he'll be with us in some capacity for many years to come.

Charlie Lloyd
136 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:55:05
I'm not completely pro this move but feel the club and people in the know reckon it's worth it so I'm prepared to give it a go.

Lets get behind this new regime. The summer activity so far must cut them some slack.

David Graves
137 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:55:18
David you implied that he has done nothing in the last two years to suggest that he is worthy of a returning. I disagree.

Lack of impact and consistency? He scored more goals and created more assists last season than anyone other than Lukaku at Everton. Hardly an exception to the rule.

David Graves
138 Posted 09/07/2017 at 00:59:44
Here's a novel idea – how about seeing how he actually performs before writing him off? I'm not suggesting that he's given the next two seasons but perhaps a handful of games might be reasonable.
Ian Pilkington
139 Posted 08/07/2017 at 01:00:43
Whilst it was inevitable Rooney would move elsewhere given the dire finances of the club at the time, I could never forgive him, an Evertonian, for choosing to play for Manchester United. When he departed, for me, it was the lowest point in all the years I've followed the club since the 'Fifties.

However, I'm glad he's back, because there is a decent chance this seemingly risky deal could actually pay off.

I do hope that Ross stays; I really can't understand the enthusiasm for Sigurdsson. He's good but at 28 he won't get any better, whilst Ross under Rooney's influence, and with Lukaku gone, could turn into a far superior player. Please spend the Lukaku money on another striker.

David Booth
140 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:06:40
David: dropped by Manchester United and dropped by England.

Rooney is on a downward trajectory and we're hailing him as some sort of messiah?

Anthony Burke
141 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:07:53
I've never held a grudge against Rooney even when he left. He's always acknowledged his love for Everton, even whilst playing for Man Utd.

I honestly believe he has so much left to offer. Welcome back, Wayne!!!

Dan Davies
142 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:10:10
Graham @ 126, why would we want such a pro at our club? You could just imagine young Tom Davies blanking Wayne at Finch Farm in disgust!
David Graves
143 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:17:17
It's disingenuous to suggest that I am hailing him as a messiah. I will however stick my neck out and say he'll get 10 goals next season.

Where else will we get that sort of return? Barkley or Mirallas? Can't see it myself that's why I think he will be an asset.

Does Rooney in the side not make you more confident? Works for me.

Anthony Burke
144 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:21:24
Lukaku leaving and Rooney joining will be a blessing in disguise guys, trust me.
Ernie Baywood
145 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:22:49
This isn't the emotional story book return. The ship sailed on that ever being a thing when he signed his last contract.

So for me it just comes down to the realities of the deal, without the emotion. £150k a week and no transfer fee for a 31-year-old who has won practically everything. Yeah, I reckon that makes enough sense for us.

I'll put my faith in the club's management that they think the player can contribute. It's over to Wayne now to show that he can get himself in good shape and give his all for the club. And, again, this seems to make sense – he will see this as a chance to make an impact at his boyhood club.

If you really wanted to see what Rooney could still do with the right motivation and desire... you'd put him in his boyhood team, right?

My money is on this being a huge success. I think he and the club will prove a lot of people wrong.

Stephen Scofield
146 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:33:42
I'm been an Everton fan most of my life (since 1991) and I'm not from Liverpool, but love the club with all my heart.

Rooney coming back is one of the best things that has ever happened to the club, in my opinion. When he left, I was upset. But I also knew the team needed money.

It's a shame he didn't come back two years ago. But I think he's been nowhere near his best in that time. However, if I was him, going back to the club I loved, I'd work my ass off like never before.

I think this will turn out to be the best signing we have made in years. His influence off the pitch alone will be enough to justify his wage. But his work on the pitch will prove those who are living in a fantastical past wrong.

He's not over the hill. He's played for a club the fans turned against years ago. When you don't have them behind you, you cannot play to the best of your abilities.

To have him and have old pinball legs going in the other direction for record money is just incredible. There are good things afoot this season and as soon as he signs, I'm buying a shirt with his name on the back.

I couldn't be happier with this transfer. And I don't think it will be the end of the spending.

Mark my words, this season will be one to remember and for good reasons.

Gavin Johnson
147 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:49:45
Welcome back Wayne Rooney. I can't wait to see him score his first goal back at Goodison.

It looks like Sigurdsson's signing next week too, and If Giroud also follows that's another 3 quality players coming in.

I do have some misgivings about playing all 3 of them in the same side. Assuming Barkley goes to Spurs, and Lukaku's already gone, we will have lost 2 of our quickest players and replaced them with less mobile players.

I really rate Giroud and think he's virtually guaranteed to get 15 goals a season, but I hope we sign Dembele or Iheanacho from City due to Rooney and Sigurdsson coming in.

Mark Andersson
148 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:53:14
Welcome back Wayne. Bill is in the theater business and this is his best show for a long time. Sentiment or not Rooney it is big business.

I watched the Rooney doc, The Man Behind The Goals: the biggest thing that came from that doc, was how influential Rooney is in the dressing room. He is back so give the man a chance.

Anto Byrne
149 Posted 09/07/2017 at 01:57:56
Hope he gets fit. 16 stone is a bit heavy and then he has a couple of dodgy ankles.

Let's see how he goes. Can't be any worse than Kone or Valencia. Think I need to buy me a shirt though.
Hasan Noor
150 Posted 09/07/2017 at 02:08:39
Pleased about Rooney's return and all the signings! If Rooney can inspire the team, hopefully we'll get at least top 4 next season!

Only concern is full back positions, with Seamus injured and Baines slowing down. Not sure we have enough attacking flair in these positions...

Darryl Ritchie
151 Posted 09/07/2017 at 02:28:08
David @139

Lukaku- good
Rooney - bad


Paul Ferry
152 Posted 09/07/2017 at 04:38:22
Peter Fearon (#124).

What a weird response.

Let me be clear. We are in the best position we have been in recent memory. Your stats point is meaningless, Mr Fearon. Your calls for Koeman to go before Xmas – Jaysus – were rightly slaughtered at the time. I raise them now to cast doubt on your judgment.

In your first post on here, you again displayed IMO a characteristic by now poor judgment.

'Facts' my ass. Let's wait and see how Koeman rates after three years, shall we. Shall we have a level playing field? I already know the answer, by the way. Until then, lone wolf we have your juvenile knee-jerk unthinking and bizarre calls for a manager to be fired four months into a season.

Quite frankly, you look silly then as you do now with this latest bit of doggerel.

Insulting? Really? Show me.

Your views with the age issue you raised seem immature, either youthful electric naivety or what in the 17th century was called the sixth age of the seven ages of man, 'Declination'.

Here's a question for you, Mr Fearon.

Do you still think that Koeman should be sacked?

Daniel Lim
153 Posted 09/07/2017 at 05:30:10
I can't imagine that some people would say that as long as Rooney plays for Everton, he wouldn't visit Goodison Park.

Did Rooney kill one of his his family members or what?

Brian Foley
154 Posted 09/07/2017 at 07:01:26
Graham Mockford (#126) living up to part of your surname (Mocking) cracked me up love it. You're right too.

I think that Rooney will be relatively 'rested' due to lack of game time and could hit the ground running, captain or not. Most posts seem to be positive here but for those who are worried think of this.

Frank Zappa sang 'You are what you is' – Rooney is an Evertonian, Neville is a Manc. They are both now (physically or mentally) back at the clubs that are closest to their hearts, glad it's not the other way around?

Kane won the golden boot because he was scoring for a club he wants to be at, Lukaku was the opposite he could have won that golden boot but he just could not be arsed and for that alone I'm gland he's gone.

At least Rooney is genuine is he still good enough, we shall have a bit of fun finding out. At least he is not our only or marquee signing, Koeman has given us plenty of options.

Phil Hendren
155 Posted 09/07/2017 at 07:06:32
Clearly I'm a sentimental romantic but this news actually makes me feel all gooey and weird inside. Okay, he's 31, so yeah, probably only a couple more seasons for him, but I've been convinced for quite a few years now that the boy would come home soon.

I've just been browsing Twitter as others said, you've either got the Red Shite making out the lad is some sort old man with a walking stick, or genuinely gutted but grateful Man Utd fans thankful for all he has done for them.

I think this move will rejuvenate the lad and more importantly give sound advice and wisdom to all the young ones in the first team and lower who are hungry for their own fairytale journey in the beautiful game.

Eugene Ruane
156 Posted 09/07/2017 at 07:21:38
David (#137),

"Here's a novel idea – how about seeing how he actually performs before writing him off?"

That's just crazy talk.

Ed Fitzgerald
157 Posted 09/07/2017 at 07:49:49
Those (most on here) who are posting on here with all the fervour of religious zealots in praise of our buying policy and in blind adoration of Koeman could be indeed be right. Personally I'm a lot more cautious having witnessed the mostly sterile quality of football we served up last season and some fairly ineffective purchases.

The thrust of this thread reminds me of the scene from the Life of Brian when the crowd all hail Brian as the Messiah, only for his mum to rebuke them saying he's not the messiah, he is. a very naughty boy.

The reality is we have sold someone at the top of their game who does the hardest job in football (scores regularly) and at present we haven't even come to bear to replacing him. Most of us would cheer Pol Pot, or an Alien if he pulled a Blue shirt on and score. It is however a little embarrassing to read the fawning over Rooney on here.

I genuinely hope he does well afte all he is going to be our highest paid player on £150k per week ffs. All we can do is wait and see what unfolds this season, perhaps, we can gauge our progress after the first five games?

To be a dissenting voice on TW in the close season is akin to being a heretic, but you know what they say about the madness of crowds.

Ian Hollingworth
158 Posted 09/07/2017 at 07:53:09
Great signing. Like him or not, you have to give him some credit as he is taking a 50% pay cut to come back home and there are not many footballers who would do that.

I also think he will surprise a few on here with his performance and that will only be good for Everton FC.

Laurie Hartley
159 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:16:20
Stephen Schofields post (#145) brought a smile to my face – it's great to see the younger fans having something to look forward to – they deserve it. Good on you Stephen- you have convinced this old dog.

I have been unsure on this one (done a couple of flips in fact) but I am, like Stephen, sure of one thing – Rooney will leave whatever he has left in the tank on the pitch once he pulls a blue shirt on again.

John Smith
160 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:27:57
If we get Sigurdsson, Giroud and Van Dijk this will be a fabulous transfer. Probably best one since the mid 80s.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
161 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:56:45
Couple of questions:

1. to those who "hope he doesn't stop the development of the younger players like Calvert-Lewin and Lookman". The question is, in the next 2 years if we are 1-0 down with 15 minutes to go, away at one of the big clubs or Anfield, who would you rather have to come off the subs bench to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and try to equalise or win? Our youngsters are not there yet.

2. 13 years since he left. Want to know how far we have travelled in those 13 years? Who left at the end of 2003-04 season as well as Wayne. Names which will fill us with dread. Nicholas Alexandersson, Tobias Linderoth, Alex Nyarko, Tomasz Radzinski (best Everton player of all time, but only if you are counting those with 2 "Zs" in their name), Steve Simonsen. And we had sold Scott Gemill and Mark Pembridge at the end of the previous summer's transfer window.

Answers on a postage stamp, which of these would get into last year's team, let alone the 2017-18? We have come a long way ladies and gentlemen.

And please don't read this list of ex-players before going to bed. I don't want to give you nightmares.

Colin Glassar
162 Posted 09/07/2017 at 08:59:51
Just read the Oliver Holt story in the Mirror on Sunday and now I'm a believer. Rooney isn't coming home to retire, he's not on some sentimental, Kenwright-inspired, journey – No. He's coming home hungry, angry and fired up. I can't wait to see him play now.

For all those with justifiable doubts, read the article.

Dave Abrahams
163 Posted 09/07/2017 at 09:11:25
Loved this kid from the moment I saw him v Spurs in an FA Youth Cup match, I couldn't believe how good he was. He came into the first team and showed everyone how good he was.

I saw him in town by the Playhouse messing around with his mates, he was in the first team but still very young; I was in my sixties, I wanted to go over and shake his hand... stopped myself and walked on by.

No Evertonian loved him as much as me, understood him when he went to Man Utd, followed his career and envied the United fans wallowing in his glory but glad for Wayne himself.

Now he is back with all the emotions that are happening with his return, hope for Evertonians and Wayne that he is a success; I can't see it but desperately hope I am wrong.

Peter Thistle
164 Posted 09/07/2017 at 09:15:10
This transfer isn't easy to accept for some. Hard to support someone loathed for so long. Not sure I could ever be a fan of him again to be honest. Hope he does well and earns our respect back.
Shane Corcoran
165 Posted 09/07/2017 at 09:31:44
Eugene, you're the one that said you'd support him because he's an Everton player. My question was: If I was an Everton player would you support me?

Simple isn't it?

Robert Workman
166 Posted 09/07/2017 at 09:34:37
As a big fan of both Rooney and Lukaku, I just wish that we could have seen them playing together up front for Everton for at least one season. What a combination that could have been!
Chris Williams
167 Posted 09/07/2017 at 09:49:24
I've read the article too, Colin, and you have to say it sounds like Wayne means it. I was impressed by the fact that Koeman was impressed by his attitude and approach having met with him in the week.

He's also been going to the gym every day too, before pre-season training, so the lad sounds like he has a glint in his eye.

Good luck to him, and by extension, us.

Could have done without the Kenwright luvvy stuff but it wouldn't be a show without Punch as my Dad used to say.

Christine Foster
168 Posted 09/07/2017 at 09:56:22
For me Rooney is everything Lukaku is not. He has a desire and love for Everton, Lukaku has a love and desire for himself and his wealth. I said almost a year ago that Rooney would come back on a free and at a wage cut because he loves the club.

You see, every minute he is on the pitch at Goodison will be a reward to him, every minute you know he will drive himself on because he is and always will be a Blue, even the Mancs understand that.

His worth to the club will not be measured in the goals he will score, it will be measured in the passion and desire on and off the pitch to players and supporters for he will give 100%. In stark contrast, remember Williams lambasting Lukaku for being a lazy arse?

He returns after winning so much, a shame we did not have the team, the money, or the vision that could have brought him success then. We do now. I for one applaud his return, the return of passion and desire of someone desperate to pull on a blue shirt again.

It's a great piece of business, maybe not in the same goal returns as Lukaku but a man on a mission for the club and its supporters. The difference is stark and clear, I would have a 31-year-old Rooney over Lukaku any day.

John G Davies
169 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:09:38
Graham (#126),

Where did it all go wrong. 😀

2nd best player I have seen in an Everton shirt. Made up he is back.

Phil Lewis
170 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:14:36
Absolutely delighted at the Prodigal's return!

No 'effin about with bit-part squad stuff please Ronald, every great side needs a leader, so give him the armband, hand him the baton and let our world class new conductor get this youth orchestra into shape!!

Everything we've lacked for decades, vision, skill, guile, aggression, determination, experience and goals all rolled into one! Never mind any loss of pace, 31 is bugger all!... there will be plenty of young legs around him to answer the call should he flag. My guess is that he will be an example to them all. Watch carefully Ross, this is how its done!

I'm off to the bookies, what price Everton for the title next year and Rooney PFA Player of the Year??!! I'll have a tenner double please!

Tony Abrahams
171 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:16:35
I can understand the people who hate Wayne Rooney because I've hated Bill Kenwright for years, and if Moyes would have stayed another year, then those pair between them would have stopped me going to my spiritual home.

I didn't want Rooney back until we signed so many younger players, especially because I believe he's wanted to come back and play for Everton for years, which is a contradiction in itself, if I hated Kenwright so much?

But it finally looks like "our great club" is moving on and hopefully back to where most of us genuinely think it belongs.

They say divide and conquer but, with everything that's going on at Everton, it really is a time for us fans all to unite again and hopefully help push The Toffees right back to the top!

Eugene Ruane
172 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:23:50
Shane # 164 - 'Eugene, you're the one that said you'd support him because he's an Everton player. My question was if I was an Everton player would you support me? Simple isn't it?'

Aren't you more like.

I thought my response to your ludicrous 'if' was clear but obviously not, so let me spell it out.

If your (or anyones) response to a counter-argument is "Yeah but what if.." followed by some absolutely insane fantasy, you'll need to find someone else to indulge you.

Ed # 156 - 'To be a dissenting voice on TW in the close season is akin to being a heretic'

Well anyone who would attempt to suppress a contrary opinion that qualifies as well-argued, informed, calm, intelligent dissent, is a fool.

As is anyone who believes red-faced, exaggerated angry venting qualifies as intelligent dissent.

There are certain unarguable realities here which it genuinely seems (to me) that many either refuse to acknowledge (coz their ludicrously entrenched position might be challenged) or they simply don't understand.

Right now, these are facts..

There has been no official announcement of Rooney signing yet.

If/when he does sign, whatever his weekly wage, the actual figure will have to be guessed at (as will who is paying it and how). I'll accept I'm wrong on this if he's photographed holding up a pay-slip that says "ROONEY. W - 150 LARGE . PAID BY EVERTON - DEFFO"

If he signs, we don't know where he will play.

If he signs we don't know how he will play.

Whether we like/dislike or trust/distrust Koeman, is (right now) of no importance because we don't get to decide who we will/won't buy, he does.

When the move was mooted, after much thought, I'd decided I'd prefer us not to sign Rooney, but if we do, (out of my/your hands).

Right now, it seems many are prepared to ignore all this simply to vent.

(and those who do are, imo, 'very naughty boys')

Jamie Evans
173 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:31:15
Whilst not enough to guarantee him a starting position, he is already the best corner taker at the club now.
Ian Hollingworth
174 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:31:29
Christine (#167) spot on and I could not agree more.

I think the doubters will be pleasantly surprised.

David Milner
175 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:42:57
I did not like the manner in which Wayne went to Man Utd, but remember he was only very young. Perhaps the villain at the time was Paul Stretford. On the other hand, we did need the money then.

Wayne has always said 'Once a Blue...' so let's give him a chance to prove that. You also always get 100%, not like Lukaku.

Wayne wants to come back to Everton & it's not about the money as he is taking a pay cut. His wages with us will easily be covered by the merchandising. Wayne is still a big name around the world & as long as the club get their finger out with worldwide distribution our income should increase by quite a bit.

Give him another chance, what have we got to lose.

Ian Hollingworth
176 Posted 09/07/2017 at 10:43:59
Right on cue, the classless Lukaku branding Man Utd fans the best on BBC Sport website.

Not even officially signed yet!

Mike Berry
177 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:00:53
Man, when that first goal goes in, the ground may cave in with the noise.

Wayne will be heralded as the messiah on his return, cant wait to see the hysteria and fun that going to be attached to this move.

Let's just enjoy the journey while it lasts, folks.

James Marshall
178 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:02:09
I'm one of the seemingly few that never harboured any sort of grudge against an 18-year-old who was sold entirely for financial reasons many years ago – No blame attributed to Rooney for that.

Also the abuse he suffered from our supporters was a disgrace in my view, and he responded the only way he could, kissing the Utd badge – those supporters giving him shit would have done exactly the same. You give it, you get it back. Suck it up.

I'm absolutely delighted he's back and always knew this day would come. It makes both commercial sense and footballing sense – he has all the experience in the world, and is still an amazing player. You watch him run himself into the ground every game.

The majority of supporters on match days will shoot him from the rafters and there's nothing the bitter TW crew will be able to do about that.

He's one of ours. One of us. The same as us. He's brought his kids up Evertonians and they'll get to see their Dad, their hero, play at Goodison and hear their fellow blues sing his Dad's name. Call me a sentimental old bastard but I've waited and wished for this to happen and here we are.

Wayne is blue through & through, no matter what anyone says. Fact. Up the blues!

David Hayes
179 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:16:45
Like most TWers I get angry at the obvious contempt the mainstream media BBC, Sky etc has for our club. When Stones was at Everton, he was described by all pundits as a disaster on legs; now at Man City same player, same level is suddenly a class act and world-beater.

Ever consider why the media don't respect Everton? Here is a clue for you, Sell off your best impact and quality players, Replace them with rejects from the same team that bought your players or from Relegated and bottom half clubs, over and over again.

Anyone noticed any of the top 4 operating in this way? Not only that we think we deserve to be at the top and can't understand how we are not.

Brent Stephens
180 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:23:27
James (#177),

"The majority of supporters on match days will shoot him from the rafters and there's nothing the bitter TW crew will be able to do about that".

Not sure you meant "shoot". If you meant "shout for him" or something similar, totally agree. Goodison Park will rock. TW isn't always representative of the wider fan base.

Phil Walling
181 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:30:32
Well put, James @ 177. Couldn't agree with you more. Some folks on here are never happy!
James Marshall
182 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:30:46
Brent, yeah I meant shout. I hope nobody shoots him, that wouldn't look good.

I'm proper excited about seeing him play for us again in anger. Rooney is a winner, with passion and the blue devil in his veins. The second coming.

Andy Osborne
183 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:33:37
As a slight aside, can anyone think of any player that we have sold throughout our history that has gone to achieve as much success (in terms of trophies) as Rooney? I can't think of anyone. I can think of many that we sold, that flopped. So is he our most successful export?
Jon Withey
184 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:34:48
Regarding us being a selling club, I can't think of many players that we have sold and missed – so it's generally been good business. Rooney was one, Lukaku will be the next.

Stones, Rodwell, Pienaar, Arteta, Jeffers, Lescott, Gravesen – all were sold when maybe we would have preferred to keep them – none of them went onto become superstars.

Andy Osborne
185 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:44:15
David (#178),

Just because a team finishes in the bottom half or gets relegated, doesn't mean they don't have good players. It means they don't have 11 good players.

In the two we have from Sunderland and Burnley, would be considered their respective teams best players. (With the exception of Defoe, possibly). And the player we are rumoured to be getting next week from Swansea, is also the best player in their team.

I have no problem with that strategy, and I don't think it is a flawed strategy. I also think that some of the "current" top 4 teams have used that strategy in the past. Lampard, Carrick, Gary Cahill, probably many more.

If you think about it, up to now, Everton players that have been sold fit that model. Fellaini, Rooney, and now Lukaku. Although I think Lukaku may have jumped too quickly, as I think we will finish above Man Utd this season.

Steve Carse
186 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:48:48
David (#178), I could have sworn that Man Utd sold Ronaldo. Another 'top 4' club, Arsenal, repeatedly lose their best (eg, Fabregas and Van Persie in the past, and Sanchez forthcoming). Spurs sold Bale.

In all instances, these clubs could only replace them with inferior sorts. All moved on to win cups or at least Champions League places.

Barry Johnson
188 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:49:45
Over-rated, over-paid and over the hill. Never get sentimental in business. Rooney will demoralise the younger players and contribute nothing to the game. Yes, he'll sell a few more shirts, but that is about it. Don't do it.
Brent Stephens
189 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:51:03
Barry, my guess is Koeman is making a rational not a sentimental decision.
Chris Leyland
190 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:54:22
David Heyes – the Red Shite are currently a top 4 club, much as it pains me to say it.

They sold Sterling to Man City. They bought James Milner and Kolo Torre from Man City after both were rejected by City. They sold Torres to Chelsea. They also bought Joe Cole and Sturridge from Chelsea when both were considered not good enough for Chelsea's first team. They bought Ings from Burnley and Benteke from Villa, both lower half teams in the Premier League at the time.

Simon Smith
191 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:57:09
Football is more than business, Barry. How is Rooney going to demoralise the younger players??? Is that the effect long term England captains have on younger players?

Stupid post!

Chris Leyland
192 Posted 09/07/2017 at 12:00:06
Jim (#186) – 'stockpiling' over the hill players?

Klaassen, Sandro, Keane, Pickford, Onyekuru – all 'stockpiled' this summer. Any of these 5 'over the hill'?

Colin Glassar
193 Posted 09/07/2017 at 12:10:22
The more I read ridiculous comments like #187 the more enthusiastic, and happy, I get over Rooney's return. He's a man on a mission and will want to prove to the world (especially his kids) that he's definitely not finished as a top, top player.
Dale Rose
195 Posted 09/07/2017 at 12:22:18
I wasn't sure about this one at first. However with the summer buys it could be inspired. He is one of those players who can step up to the plate and make a huge difference when you most need it.

He will be a huge influence on the young players and this will make a difference in some of those 50/50 games where we drew last season and should have won.

Ken Buckley
196 Posted 09/07/2017 at 12:27:41
I like to think of this exchange of players as Everton signing a world known world class footballer whilst Man Utd sign young forward who is showing plenty of potential but still raw, naive and temperamental.
Charlie Lloyd
197 Posted 09/07/2017 at 12:34:26
None of us really know how this may pan out. Only in 2-3 years will we be able to evaluate this deal. I have sat on the fence about this and I'm prepared to back the judgement of the manager who must have an idea how he's going to use him.

Saw the photos of him leaving Finch Farm yesterday and I must add he looked pretty trim and tidy. Maybe just the tonic he needs to get motivated.

Chris Corn
198 Posted 09/07/2017 at 12:52:15
David (#178), I think your argument has been countered by Steve Carse (#185) and Chris Leyland (#189) quite emphatically. This myth that Everton are the only club who sell big players is frankly nonsense.

I accept that this may not work out, but I reckon it is more than worth it. It seems to me that much of the vitriol towards Rooney is retained bitterness over his original departure. The man is one of the best and most successful English players of all time.

The notion, as I've read elsewhere, that he is another Gascoigne or Ginola type signing is ridiculous. Everton are a different club and he is supplementing other quality signings. We still are not in a position to sign those top level players, but then there are only about five clubs who can.

However these are exciting times, but as ever there are plenty of people who still want to moan and groan about who is leaving and who we aren't signing and how we have no ambition. You are quite simply deluded.

Jim Lloyd
199 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:05:16
Well, there's always differences of opinion and some of them seem just daft to me. My own daft opinion is that Wayne Rooney is a better bet for us than Lukaku is for Man Utd. I think it's stupid to pre-judge a world class play who happens to be 31, especially when the coaching staff see him as a man who will improve our team.

The worst that can happen is that he isn't good enough to get into the team on merit. Koeman will have told him straight, what standards of behaviour he expects. I think Rooney's own determination to show the world, and especially those who think highly of him, that he is good enough for the England squad and the Everton first team, will work out.

Only time will tell but I can't wait to see the lad put on a Royal Blue shirt in our first team.

Dean Peamum
200 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:07:16
I was as excited as every fan by the summer signings we made and the money we can now spend after two decades of mediocrity and lack of ambition to push on but then you’re hit by the realisation that we’re still a wee feeder club for our big Manc neighbours.

Personally I wouldn’t even have let him in the ground as a fan but he’s back now like an ex who dumped you for a richer guy who gets the best of her and then who wants to come back to you when he’s had enough and grown tired of her.

If and when he scores I’ll be happy and if he kisses the badge I’ll laugh to myself and feel sorry for the mugs who think he means it.

Linda Morrison
201 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:16:18
Dean he left the club because he was sold, as many others were, to keep the club financially viable. I remember most fans being very unhappy with the board for selling him. Unless my memory has completely deserted me I don't remember him putting in a transfer request like Arteta etc.

I think he'll get games and he has a point to prove. He has come to the club for nothing in terms of a transfer fee and Man Utd are contributing to his wages. Give him a chance.

On another matter, any idea what's going on with Barkley?

Simon Smith
202 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:17:53
Dave Ganley
203 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:18:09
I'm a big advocate of having Rooney back. The attributes he will bring more than outweigh the negatives in my opinion. I believe he has a couple of good years left in him and believe he will have a positive influence on the younger players.

He is a winner and won't accept second best. Surely that's got to rub off on the younger players especially when we go across the park.

I think Koeman will play him in a front two, slightly behind the main striker, whoever that may be. A fresh challenge for him is just what he needs. He obviously got stale at Man Utd and Maureen just didn't fancy him.

A rejuvenated Rooney could be good for both parties. He could just be the spark that lights up Everton Football club again. It's all ifs buts and maybes at the moment but it's exciting times at Everton and Rooney coming is part of that. I can't wait for the start of the season and seeing how it all pans out.

Chris Williams
204 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:19:19
Signing confirmed!
Chris James
205 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:20:20
For all the discussion before and a few reservations still, I must admit I got genuine goosebumps watching that video.

Welcome back, Wayne!

Brian Hennessy
206 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:20:26
A 2-year deal confirmed – sensible from the club.

Welcome back, Wayne!

Eugene McLoughlin
207 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:26:48
Well said Chris 204, I almost shed a tear, was unsure about him coming back but that Video brought it back!!
Mark Tanton
208 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:29:30
Jigger me, I had forgotten what a player he was. That goal at Elland Road was a belter, ending a miserable winless run since World War Two!
Victor Jones
209 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:31:05
If we ever reach another cup semi-final (and I have faith that we will), and we get awarded a penalty, a penalty that wins us the game, Who takes that penalty?

A players like Lukaku (who doesn't want to be at Everton) or Wayne Rooney? I know my choice.

Welcome back, Wayne Rooney. I have faith that there is a few decent seasons still in those 31-year-old legs. Even if it means dropping into midfield. And I have faith that Rooney will also produce a few match winning performances. And as for our youngsters, surely they will relish playing alongside Rooney. Even Barkley would relish that.

This has been a good summer so far. We are beginning to look like a solid team and Rooney is part of that – will he even be a future manager, alongside Unsworth and Ferguson? The mind boggles....

Let's rock and roll. COYBs

Stephen Ashton
210 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:32:47
Shows you how much this raises our profile, we made the headlines on bbc radio four.
James Watts
211 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:32:51
Well, he's back. Official. Let's hope he has a good 2 years in him, going to fun finding out - hopefully!
Graham Mockford
212 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:34:43
Dean (#199)

I'm struggling with this one.

"Personally I wouldn't even have let him in the ground as a fan but he's back now like an ex who dumped you for a richer guy who gets the best of her and then who wants to come back to you when he's had enough and grown tired of her."

In your analogy is Wayne a female who's dumped you for a richer guy? Or is Wayne gay?

But then the richer guy becomes a her. Did she transition after years of being trapped in a mans body? And is that the reason he got fed up.?

Modern life is so confusing.

Ste Traverse
213 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:37:15
I'm opposed to this signing as I believe his best days are long gone, however I hope I'm wrong and it works out for him and us.
Peter Fearon
214 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:37:58
Paul Ferry, I know how Koeman did with the players we had and the not very impressive players he brought in. Not great. I would like to see how he does with the players he now has after this window. I am hoping he will do better.

I still believe, however that better managers were available than one who eschews inventiveness and spontaneity for mere possession. Who looks at a player like Deulofeu and says, "We have got to get rid of him"?

Hugh Jenkins
215 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:38:41
Per BBC & Official Site – Done & Dusted – Two-Year Deal.
James Hughes
216 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:39:28
Well he is officially back so the bitching needs to stop. whoever mentioned the links MoS & YouTube, many thanks.

He appears to love the club just as much as us and wants to help improve us, not himself.

Prodigal son returns so let's kill the fatted calf, may that fatted calf be comprised of winning a derby game and a cup.

Daniel Lim
217 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:40:17
2-year contract. That's just about right. As I mentioned yesterday, help us beat the shite 4 times in a row. That's the least you can do for us, Mr Rooney!
Colin Glassar
218 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:43:29
The me-me's need to give it a rest now. He's back so get behind him and hope he's a roaring success.

Andrew McLean
219 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:45:43
Welcome back, Wayne. Absolutely loving this transfer window. Excited and looking forward to the new season.
Paul Tran
220 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:48:01
I didn't want this, but I'm feeling very excited by it right now.

I can't wait to complete my two-facedness by going berserk at his first goal!

Eugene McLoughlin
221 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:50:03
I really hope he can contribute on the pitch, I don't expect the glories of past years but hopefully that nous he has gained can help the youngsters...

Really pray he can do it, hope he has fire in his belly and is determined to play his heart out!! I still remember those goals against Arsenal and Leeds!!!! Please, Wayne, Do it!!!!!

Ernie Baywood
222 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:51:29
Undisclosed fee... I wonder if we'll ever know.

Obviously knew this was happening and I was in the 'for' camp. My reasons were purely football related, with a little bit of 'commercial profile'. I didn't care about the footballing romance side of things. And then I saw that video...

...and it just brought a feeling back to me. I was in my early twenties when he went and it was kind of the day I grew up. If a boyhood blue couldn't stay past 18 then the game didn't mean what I thought it did. Players didn't give a shit about supporters or clubs. That was a big moment for me and I've been a cynic ever since. Naivety was previously an enjoyable trait to have.

And just as I get that little reminder we have Lukaku, the epitome of that situation. 13 years on and the players don't even pretend to care anymore!

So there's no emotional welcome back to the club for Wayne from me. Between them, he and Everton killed that a long time ago.

In footballing terms though, I've got big hopes for next season. And I do still love this club, despite the self interested parties who pass through the gates.

David Ellis
223 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:51:53
Always a blue because he's always been an Everton fan. Playing for other clubs does not change that (nearly all football players play for clubs other than their childhood team).

He could have gone elsewhere and he engineered the move to us. All the evidence is he loves the club and is perfectly entitled to kiss the badge.

Whether he's actually any good as a player we shall see...fingers crossed. In the meantime we can already see the media attention far exceeds that of other signings, even if this is probably less significant than others. Let's hope its a good news story...return of the prodigal son is such a great narrative for last journos to pick up.

Justin Clark
224 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:55:52
Welcome home, Rooney!!!!
David Hallwood
225 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:56:37
Like a lot of blues I thought it was a backward step, but seeing him in the shirt on Twitter-COYB!

At the very least he won't be going to Mordor with a 'we are not worthy' attitude.

Gerry Quinn
227 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:58:30
Thank God that Wayne has taken over all of the headlines on NewsNow Everton – that other twat and his lover were all over the pages and irritating me...
Eugene McLoughlin
228 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:01:06
My twitter feed is full of Rooney's return, I've never seen anything like it concerning Everton... WE ARE BACK!!!

New Stadium, Big investments and more to come!!!

Joe Aylward
229 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:03:54
I'd rather have a 31-year-old blue born scallywag from Crocky giving it his all and with something to prove than a disinterested 24-year-old show pony who was using the club as a stepladder – the £90 million doesn't hurt either. 😀 Welcome home, lad...
Dermot Byrne
230 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:07:45
Love this but just one question. Could he have singed a new contract for no pay? Yeah...NO PAY. Worth more than a good Euro Millions winner (twice in one year). It would have not worried them one squat and the message...WOW!

Eugene McLoughlin
231 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:07:53
For Rhys, Madelaine & Bradley, do it Wayne!!!
Brian Wilkinson
232 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:08:21
Pretty sure Wayne reads ToffeeWeb, he almost word for word read my post out about the one thing eluding him is a trophy at Everton and how inspired and a will to put that right means everything to him – I'm claiming that one guys and gals.

Seriously though like my previous post, we have got a player who has won almost everything, broke countless records and some may say taking on a player who is finished, he has unfinished business at Everton.

He will be busting a gut to land a trophy at Everton, his leadership and will to win will be priceless in that Everton dressing room. Any doubters out there, judge the guy afterwards and get behind the guy.

Eugene McLoughlin
233 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:08:35
The more I watch that video, the more I am getting sucked in!!
Mads Kamp
234 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:09:13
Welcome back Wayne! Missed you. From Toffee-fans in Denmark.

Now for Sigurdsson.

Brian Wilkinson
235 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:09:19
Well said, Joe@228.
Dermot Byrne
236 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:10:40
Exactly Eugene..let's start a campaign he and all players give 2% to EitC. Their choice but let's lead the world again? Anyone with this?
Colin Glassar
237 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:13:19
The red mancs are being very graceful about this. Lots of appreciation shown towards Wayne and his contribution over the last 13 years.

There's always the usual moron like the manc fan who tweeted:

"13 years ago we took your best player and now, 13 years later we are doing the same. Feeder club - bitches!!"

Only for an Evertonian to respond:

"And then we sent you David Moyes who in six months destroyed a 25 year legacy, fool 😂"

Eugene McLoughlin
238 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:13:48
That would be something Dermot! 2% of their bonuses every year?
David Edwards
239 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:15:05
All these months looking at the pros and cons of the move and being measured and analytical and when the news breaks of Rooney's return – I'm an excitable little kid again on Christmas Day!

Bring on the new season! Best transfer window ever and hopefully not over either. Thank you Mr Moshiri – you've made a cynical old blue rather happy!

Dermot Byrne
240 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:18:02
Is it a lot to ask that players match what club puts into EitC?

How we would welcome players that signed knowing that.

Danny O'Neill
241 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:18:13
This will be interesting. At 31, providing he realises he now has to look after himself, theoretically there is no reason he can't rediscover his best; it's not like he's 36, so not a Ginola or Gascoigne type signing by any means.

Anyone else think so, but I think he looks leaner already on the photos released today? Maybe the chance to do something special with Everton will reignite the desire and hunger. That's the optimist in me now he's back with us.

Brian Wilkinson
242 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:22:16
Sigurdsson next along with others, but the icing on the cake would be ruthless to our neighbours and land Van Dijk, just because we can.
Jim Lloyd
243 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:23:25
The Man Utd fans are, in the main, wishing Wayne all the best for his return to the club he supports. They, like us, have loads of great fans and it's good to see.

Wayne will; be a catalyst for us, I can feel it. He'll be like Peter Reid and won't stand for any thing less than full blooded effort and will to win from every player who pulls on a Blue shirt. Most of all of himself.

Hurry up and start this bloody season! I second your sentiments David Edwards.

Get us going Wayne!

Dan Parker
244 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:23:25
Now it's done, chuffed! COYB!! Great mix of age and experience with Sandro and Wayne.
Colin Glassar
245 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:27:25
When will there be a proper, formal introduction to our new players like Madrid do? I bet we could fill Goodison to welcome all the new lads.

C'mon Bill, this would be right up your street.

Mike Allison
246 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:27:49
"I miss playing with Rooney. Maybe we will play together again one day. He was so powerful I was calling him 'Pitbull'. The power of Wayne Rooney is his mentality and strength and he never stops." – Cristiano Ronaldo, 2015.

Let's get that rumour started.

Dan Davies
247 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:28:10
Welcome back to Goodison Park, Wayne. Hope it goes well...!
Tony Hill
248 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:28:18
Now he is back, we must all hope that he justifies himself. It seems from what he and the manager say, even allowing for standard PR guff, that my theory of this being a Kenwright deal is bollocks.

If Koeman can help Rooney to refocus and to enjoy an Indian summer with us then we have much to look forward to.

Dermot Byrne
250 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:31:42
Van Dijk...oh just for fun !

We are now all off our heads... obviously apart from the serially miserable on TW who forget football is mainly just little moments of joy and the mostly frustration...ever for Real/Barca fans.

Seize the moment.

David Edwards
251 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:34:06
Imagine Goodison Park when he scores his first goal back! Like Latchford's 30th or the Bayern semi! Of course Hibbo's first league goal would have topped that though! :-)
Joe Foster
252 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:36:04
Get in there, lad!!!!!
Brent Stephens
253 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:37:38
Dermot, like the idea of players match-funding EiTC. Worth you initiating a thread?


Chris Williams
254 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:38:55
Moshiri: 'Delighted to Have Wayne back he brings leadership and a winning mentality to a talented young squad'

Along with Koeman's similar comments about this and how he is always a competitor.

As we can see, all based on emotion and sentiment!

Dermot Byrne
255 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:47:50
Let's get the summer over, Brent. Have set a reminder to start the campaign. Though knowing the brill folk at EitC,it may already happen. They are smart folk with their great leader now on the Board.
John G Davies
256 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:48:33
"For me he is the great English player of the generation. What he is capable of doing on the field is very special, and he is one of the few players that would improve any squad in Europe." – Barcelona and Argentina forward, Lionel Messi, 2016.

That will do me.

Dermot Byrne
257 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:49:29
In the end "all based on emotion and sentiment!" Is why we support and post!!!
Derek Knox
258 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:49:55
Good point Colin @244 but you will have to remind us all who, we have actually got, remembering, of course, there are a few young lads, and Onyekuro, who has gone to Anderlecht (loan).

By the time this goes on the site, who knows, Sigurdsson, may be included, heady days. :-)

James Hughes
259 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:50:07
Glad he is back but would still like another quality forward signed. With the players we have in the bag already and Our Boys shining in the U20's world cup we may not need any. I would like us to play safe though.

I also hope Kenny & Lookman get some game time as they look quality. As a club we seem to have a plan in place and it is looking good.

James Marshall
260 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:53:01
He looks trim, fit and slimmed down in the press photos. He must be buzzing at being back at Everton. I'm fucking delighted he's back and couldn't really give a shit for the reasons why.

The older I get the more I look at the positives in a shitty modern world, and this is glorious news. Rooney may not have the goals or pace he once had, but I tell you what, the kid can play midfield, he's a brilliant passer with range, can still finish, leads by example and will be a leader on & off the pitch.

There is literally no downside.

Jim Lloyd
261 Posted 09/07/2017 at 14:57:37
Couldn't agree more with all that you've said James

Tony (247) Well said lad.

Anto Byrne
262 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:02:43
Nice to get Wayne back – looks like he has grown up a bit. There is a nice 20 minute video on YouTube showing what we can expect. That was from the games he did play providing chances for Slatan. If we get 60 or 70 mins in a game, that will do me.
Simon Smith
263 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:03:47
He's even admitted that he's still been wearing Everton pyjamas for the past 13 years!
Chris Williams
264 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:03:53
It may well be why we support and post Dermot, but thankfully it would seem that it is not why we sign players, despite many posts to the contrary.
Jay Woods
265 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:07:29
I think he'll lift the entire squad as well as the fanbase. It has long been an Evertonian lament that the team has wobbly spine and lacks on-field leadership, so perhaps he can redress that.
Brent Stephens
266 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:07:52
Simon (#261) – "He's even admitted that he's still been wearing Everton pyjamas for the past 13 years!"

Time for the wash.

Geoff Williams
267 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:17:59
Most impressed with his interview on Sky. What a difference to that of the arrogant and classless Lukaku
Alexander Murphy
268 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:20:12
Listen, Wayne, score us winners in the derbies, lad!

Clive Mitchell
269 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:21:35
Welcome back, Wayne. You have all our best wishes. Please please, at least just once, let me see Wayne Rooney, Tom Davies, Ross Barkley and Leighton Baines play in the same starting 11.
Ernie Baywood
270 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:26:59
Geoff (#265) – "Most impressed with his interview on Sky. What a difference to that of the arrogant and classless Lukaku"

Simon (#261) – "He's even admitted that he's still been wearing Everton pyjamas for the past 13 years!"

He's saying what you want him to. No different to Lukaku at his new club.

These things have the appearance of off the cuff remarks by normal blokes who love the game the way we do. In reality, they're carefully presented statements by multi millionaire employees of massive organisations.

I'm pleased to have Wayne at the club. I think he's still able to improve us. But I won't be buying the bullshit.

I'm actually a bit disappointed in the club playing the #onceablue #welcomehome #rememberthename angle. I do remember the name – he's the boyhood blue who left us at a young age so he could have some success. We're the club who never looked like achieving any success in that period.

A good move on its own merits but the narrative that is accompanying it is absolute shite.

Clive Mitchell
271 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:31:01
You should try a bit of bullshit Ernie, keeps you going.
Jay Wood
272 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:32:14
This is going to be an interesting one to keep an eye on.

As with all new arrivals, nobody has a Scooby how anyone will perform or fit into the squad until the action begins.

The record books don't lie. Wayne Rooney ranks right up there as one of the greatest players England has produced.

The data also shows ever diminishing returns on appearances and goals (and effectiveness) in the last 2-3 years.

As I'm no Oracle, I haven't a clue whether this will prove an astute and inspirational signing, or more akin to a Gazza-Ginola acquisition.

Naturally, I sincerely hope we bask in a glorious Indian Summer with Wayne. We could well benefit from his Crocky pit bull "I'll show 'em!" belligerence. Equally, his return may prove a dud.

Ever the optimist, I'll lean to the former. He certainly adds to a particular profile type the club is signing this summer: narky winner who just hates to lose.

And that, in the final reckoning, could be fundamental in seeing Everton move onwards and upwards.

Ernie Baywood
273 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:33:23
It's the hope that keeps me going, Clive. As with the rest of our supporters, I love the club.

I just don't buy into the luvvy romantic shite. That's well and truly dead in the game. Ironically, it was Wayne's only other career transfer that taught me that!

Dermot Byrne
274 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:33:51
Chris 263: "It may well be why we support and post Dermot, but thankfully it would seem that it is not why we sign players"

We've never signed a player in our lives mate. We can express views on how we would do it but in the end we support based on emotion.

Bad singing? Waste £20m? You popping over to Citeh? Nah. Why? I rest my case.

Clive Lewis
275 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:37:13
Colin you are way off the mark, Rooney asking for just a neat and potato pie, what about the 20 b&h?
Dermot Byrne
276 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:37:20
Ernie – the narrative that accompanies the whole game is shite. You and 90% of fans know that but emotion and background deliver us to them... along with our much smaller and emptied wallets.
Sean Patton
277 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:37:30
All the good work done in the transfer market ruined with this signing. I genuinely despair at this and the the reaction to it but I am as fickle as the next fan and if he scores plenty and contributes significantly to any success then I will gladly accept I was wrong.
Tony McNulty
278 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:37:57
Koeman has known for months that Lukaku was going elsewhere.

I'm sure he has been planning for a life without him for a while.

The spine of the team now looks really strong. On the assumption that Wayne is not intended as the main striker, all we need now is the new number nine.

I am now waiting to see what Koeman he does with the money available.

Oh and welcome back Wayne. And leave your change strip of Manure jarmies somewhere in the Trafford area.

Simon Hermansen
279 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:41:02
This thread is gushing with positivity in the main but I'm far from convinced.

Yes, Rooney's return will flog a few shirts but has anyone been watching his Man Utd performances for the last 2-3 years?? He's been a shadow of the player he was, sometimes embarrassingly so.

My main memory of Rooney in recent times was for England v Iceland at the last Euros, where he showed none of the leadership or quality I'm reading about here.

I love the lad, memories of his first spell will never leave me, but sometimes you just need to say it how it is.

Hope I'm wrong...

Andy Crooks
280 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:41:33
Rooney walks out to Z-Cars. What will be on his mind? Something really special.
Dermot Byrne
281 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:41:51
Honesty Sean.

Others, if it fails, will just tell their wives "I told 'em. I did love. Honest I did. Nobody listens. I did "

Wife "Zzzzz".

Then we will get it here!

Jack Convery
282 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:41:56
In my opinion this is seriously great news.

I have posted before that I thought he would return one day. My own reasoning is that when he played in Ferguson's testimonial his head was turned. He realised that for all he did at Man Utd he was never loved and it would never feel like home. All of a sudden he was in a situation where Goodison applauded him like the prodigal son, he wore the shirt, he was back home.

We messed up his head that day and he's wanted to come back ever since. That opening game at Goodison Parkwill be something to remember – don't miss it.

Tony Stanley
283 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:42:57
I am very very happy that that Wayne signed for us.
Graham Mockford
284 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:44:45
Jay (#271),

Spot on analysis. Undoubtedly not been the same player in the last two years.

However, Man Utd despite winning three trophies in that time period, have been pretty dismal.

Secondly I'm hugely encouraged by his physical shape in today's interviews. I can't remember seeing him looking so lean. Hopefully the reports of him working out every day on his recent holidays means we are getting a player in much improved physical condition. After all his footballing ability is without question.

Colin Glassar
285 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:46:39
I think not only will he be captain but he will also manage us one day. There, I'll put me tin hat on and get in me Anderson shelter. Bombs away!!!!
Derek Turner
286 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:49:56
Hated him for years.

Roger at 25, my kids need to step up, I'm with you.

Now it's done, happy to have him back. Get the old lady singing again.

Matthew Clarke
287 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:50:23
Linda @ 200, sadly Rooney did ask for the transfer at the time but, do I blame Rooney? No, I was always of the opinion that his agent played the greatest part in his departure.

After all, it was well known the Rooney's agent lived next door to a certain Man Utd manager of the time and that they liked to play a round of golf together and, you can't tell me Rooney and Evertons name never came up in the conversation.

Agent then starts the process of unsettling the player, simple acts such as the glitzy 18th birthday party at Aintree race course with a few minor celebs thrown in to start the ball rolling and it goes from there culminating in the acrimonious split between player and boyhood club.

As for Arteta, yes he placed a transfer request as did all the decent players going for profit under the Kenwright/Moyes axis. Transfer request keeps the profit up due to no loyalty payment, simple economics and club policy with each player sold on.

Dean Adams
288 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:50:25
Brian Williams, if you are still searching:

Andy Walker
289 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:51:11
Fantastic. He will be rejuvenated now he's home.
Graham Mockford
290 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:52:22
Just to point out the 'he's here to sell a few shirts' argument is a bit misguided.

The club has very little interest in selling shirts. We have outsourced to Kitbag and we get the same income regardless of the number of shirt sales.

Dean Adams
291 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:52:53
Wayne, welcome home lad. Now show us what real love and passion can do in a blue shirt!!
Jack Convery
292 Posted 09/07/2017 at 15:59:28
"For me, he is the great English player of the generation. What he is capable of doing on the field is very special, and he is one of the few players that would improve any squad in Europe." – Barcelona and Argentina forward Lionel Messi, 2016.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
293 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:02:55
Just watched the compilation on the club's Facebook page.

The number of goals he scored from outside the area. He was never a Lineker poacher or a Latchford so playing him deeper is where he will be most suited.

And I admit, my eyes got a bit moist watching them goals go in.

Once Everton has touched you, it never leaves you.

David Chait
294 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:04:39
I can't tell you how happy I am to have Wayne return. I not a a bitter blue who can't accept we were a different club back then.

We as fans have never stopped speaking about Wayne, good or bad. Why? Because he is one of ours and always has been. I have been proud of every medal he has won and just wish he could be as appreciated as he should be by fans around the country.

Most of all I'm proud he is coming back, sacrificing millions of pounds he could have had by crossing to other countries. He has a few more brilliant years ahead of him and I have no doubt we as a team are hugely better off with his return!

Welcome home Wayne!

Rooney Rooney Rooney!!

Kevin Moorcroft
295 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:05:54
Wayne Rooney – a footballing icon! What a great move by the club, both commercially and from a footballing perspective.

Bill knows what he's doing – he got Moshiri and I know it took time but he kept his promise.

We are back where we belong! Plenty of talent now at the club. Shut the sceptics up and move on.

Brian Williams
296 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:11:56
Dean (#287).

Thanks, mate. Saw them in the end.

Jay Wood
297 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:17:09
To add to Graham's comment about Wayne's return generating more income for the club from shirt sales, I don't think you can confidently say that without knowing the details of his contract.

The last contract he signed with United in 2014, the sticking point was who held WR's image rights. For all his affiliation to Everton, his charming agent Stretford will not readily give up that fatted cow.

Jamie Crowley
298 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:18:04
The whole, "He looked awful in that England v Iceland Euros game" is complete garbage.

The entire, overpaid, condescending "it's just lil' ol' Iceland" England squad looked utter crap that day.

They were roundly beaten by a team. A TEAM of players and not 11 over-confident individuals. Iceland were magnificent that day and made a hell of a lot of very talented players look bereft of ideas; pedestrian.

Not just Rooney.

Viking clap.

Rooney will shine for Everton this season.

Steve Smith
299 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:19:42
He's only signed for the free PJ's, welcome home Wayne, Wazza is dead I hope.
Gordon Crawford
300 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:20:22
Welcome home, I hope you have a very successful time here. And I know you'll show us more passion than Lukaku ever did.

ps: Don't forget to wash your PJs.

Colin Glassar
301 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:21:01
Can you imagine what are younger players (Pickford, Keane, Davies, Barkley, Sandro, Lookman, Kenny etc ) are thinking tonight?

"Tomorrow I'll be training with Wayne Rooney"!!

Bill Gall
302 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:21:50
He may have lost some of the pace he had but I doubt if he has lost the desire to win, add this to the fearless attitude towards his opponents, he should bring out more of an attitude from the Everton players, of taking a cannon to a gun fight instead of a knife.
Tom Bowers
303 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:25:13
Most of us cannot wait to see this new-look Everton team. Hopefully all the new guys will be well integrated in the pre-season games so that Big Ron has a ready to go starting eleven that will get off on the front foot.

Where Rooney plays is debatable but I suspect in the Barkley role from last season initially with Barks on the bench if he is still around. Schneiderlin, Klaassen and Gana will have the other 3 midfield slots and the other offensive position is up for grabs depending on the formation that Big Ron opts for.

Personally, I hope another striker is brought in since Kone, Niasse, Valencia and Lukaku will no longer figure in the equation.< He may go with Mirallas or deem Calvert-Lewin ready to join Sandro up front.

Everyone will have their own choices at this stage and there is bound to be widely conflicting opinions but there has to be an air of expectancy and optimism that we haven't had for a long time.

John Pickles
304 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:25:31
One month to the gunfight, I think we've Just traded a machine gun for a penknife.

Plucky Little Everton to finish seventh.

Gordon Crawford
305 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:38:18
Wow John have a day off. Give the guy a chance. We've all been wrong about something in life, and today hopefully is your turn. :)
Brian Williams
306 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:38:44
And one man makes a team after all, John.
Sam Hoare
308 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:38:47
I loved Rooney. I remember telling all my mates about this young prodigy we had in our academy who would be playing for England soon. They scoffed.

I remember calling William Hill to get odds on him being top England scorer at the next World Cup before his Everton debut. I remember that Arsenal goal. I remember the day he left.

I've been very against this deal for the last few weeks as I wasn't (and am still) not sure where exactly he fits in with our team and whether what he brings on the pitch is worth the fuss and money. But to see him in the shirt again sent a shiver down my spine and plastered a smile across my face.

Welcome back, Wayne.

I really hope you manage to turn back the clock and prove my heart right over my head. COYB.

Graham Mockford
309 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:40:36

I wouldn't be surprised if Rooney's contract contained some element of image rights but it still wouldn't effect income from merchandise because that is contractually tied up in the Kitbag deal.

I assume a standard part of any players contract is that they participate in club commercial activities. For instance when a new kit is launched they might be one of the selected players to model the kit. He could strike an image rights deal thar means he is additionally compensated for any such promotion. But again any extra kits sold as a result wouldn't currently benefit the club.

Of course there are other streams of commercial income that could be enhanced through his acquisition such as other sponsorship deals, overseas matches, etc. He could well have struck a deal to share in this if his image is used.

Julian Exshaw
310 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:44:37
I wrote yesterday that I had my doubts. Seeing him interviewed today kind of changes it a lot. How can you doubt anyone wearing that blue shirt and saying how they love our club. Call me sentimental!!
Kevin Moorcroft
311 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:45:57
I reckon many of us will be mulling over the future over a few drinks tonight in eager anticipation!!

We've not seen activity like this for a good while and long may it happen. Sign on Sigurdsson this week and were not far away. Remember we've some very good youngsters waiting in the wings Enjoy these happy times all.

Ronald will mould em into a serious unit have no worries on that score. Great to see Big Dunc welcoming Wayne back.

Mark Andersson
313 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:47:09
Deary me, just watched the Wayne interview followed by the Rom Man Utd love-fest interview. Left a message.

Good luck, Rom. You did well using Everton to further your career. I hope you succeed with the Red Devils and win all those meaningless tin pots because you know it's all about the bling, about the bling and money... it's all about the bling, about the bling and money.

John Otway
314 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:47:41
John Pickles. Absolutely no comment apart from send my best regards to your Dad, Wilfred.
Chris Jones [Burton]
315 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:51:17
Deep down I always sensed he'd come home. He left us a young lad with fantastic promise. He fulfilled his potential, and he returns to us a winner, a leader.

I'm now hopeful he will make Manyoo regret letting him go. I've confidence in our manager getting a valuable contribution from him, on the pitch and in training. And let's not forget Wayne's vast experience – in European competition especially.

Can't wait for the season to start – and to learn who else is coming in, I fancy there will be at least one more big signing.


David Barks
316 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:51:49

Hold the presses. Are you telling me that Rooney now at Everton is talking about his love of Everton, and Lukaku now at Man Utd is saying great things about his new club. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you.

I've never seen a player talk about how excited he is to be at his new club and about all the things they're going to win and how the supporters are great. What a monster that Lukaku is but that Rooney is a Blues legend he is.

Graham Mockford
317 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:52:52

I've got no issue with either player but of course you do realise that what you accuse Lukaku of is exactly what Rooney did 13 years ago?

Adam Scott
318 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:54:48
Sam (#307),

Your view is identical to mine frankly.

Like Eugene has mentioned on this thread, it isn't my money and I will support Wayne 100% in a Everton shirt. Would I have bought him, not sure. One thing is clear, this is a Koeman signing. He wants him, and that is good enough for me.

I am a bit unsure of where he fits in. I am a bit concerned there could be flashes of brilliance that punctuate a slow demise of his professional career, but I am going to be optimistic on this one and judge him as I see him over the next few months. All of us, particularly people like me who have grown up with poor Everton teams (30) were gutted when he left. No need to drag up the past now, he is ours and we move forwards. Up the blues.

Brian Williams
319 Posted 09/07/2017 at 16:57:05
Rooney statement on leaving Man Utd:

Just want to say a massive thank you to everybody at @manchesterunited. Thanks to the boards over the years, the managers and coaches I've played under, the staff I've worked with, the team mates I've played alongside, and finally the amazing fans that I've been lucky enough to have played for. Thanks for the memories ❤️

Lukaku's on leaving Everton: 'Who would say no to the biggest club in the world?'

"Best stadium in England. The best fans. This is the perfect opportunity. I always said I wanted to play for a team that's challenging for every trophy that there is.

"I think Manchester United at the minute wants to be the dominant team, that dominant force. If you look at their history, it says enough. To become part of a club like them is something that I really wanted."

Colin Glassar
320 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:07:04
Sums it all up really, Brian. One, a classy departure and arrival. The other, a me-me, egotistical, shallow, ungrateful wannabe. Good luck Rom, I really don't begrudge you your dream move.
Mark Andersson
321 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:18:08
David Barks & Graham Mockford one comes across as being a fan the other comes across as being a hypocrite , this is the same guy who professed of being Chelsea fan and was sooo disappointed when being rejected at being sold by his now new manager.

Read threads above of the circumstances behind Rooney's sale to united 13 years ago... Rooney is a real fan of Everton, unlike big Rom who is a fan of bling and money...

Time will tell... Rooney became a united legend rerecord breaker... Rom I predict will fail... because his arrogance does not match his talent, unlike Wayne Rooney.

Graham Mockford
322 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:24:03

One was born a Evertonian, one wasn't.

One actually handed in a transfer request, one didn't.

I've got no beef with either player and now he's wearing blue I'm much more interested in how one performs.

All the faux outrage is all a bit tiresome.

Paul Jones
323 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:24:19
It's an odd one this for me. When the rumours started gathering momentum I started to think it was bad business. This transfer window has been a revelation; each new face seemingly younger and hungrier than the previous one.

And then we smash our wage structure for someone approaching 32 with a physique close to that of McGeady when he first walked out at Goodison looking like I do in my Everton top (which isn't something I'd brag about).

But then I thought - what if he'd gone to Stoke? Or to West Brom? He wouldn't be pulling up trees for those clubs but it just wouldn't have felt right.

So for that reason alone I'm accepting his signing as the right thing for him and us. And come August when I see him leading us out of the tunnel to Z-Cars (I don't think even Jags would begrudge him the armband) I'm sure I'll have a lump in my throat and a feeling that the planets have finally aligned and our star is once again in the ascendance.

Andy Tudge
324 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:25:19
I echo Mr Glassar (#319) – well surmised, one has respect for the fans and cub that have given him a platform, the other is wearing pants bigger than his balls need.

I hear the noise complaint was Lukaku shouting loudly for Pogba to put his name on the ball and cross it onto his left foot exactly where he wants it and then the said ball hitting next door's roof when it was repeatedly blazed wide.

He won't make the court hearing anyway as he never turns up when he's needed in an important event

He was always a transitional player and everyone other than Man Utd is just smiling nonchalantly.

John G Davies
325 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:25:26
Brian Williams
326 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:32:34
Graham (#322).

One actually handed in a transfer request, one didn't.

You beaut!

Geoff Lambert
327 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:36:15
The lad is buzzing. He has known for weeks he was coming home and has been working his bollocks off to get in to the best shape he can.

This could be the master stroke.


Graham Mockford
328 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:38:40

Any part of that statement you dispute?

You may also want to dial the personal insults down.

Gordon Crawford
329 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:39:51
One actually saved the club by leaving; one didn't. I wish Wayne all the best at Everton and Rom all the worst at Man Utd, except for injuries of course. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
Julian Exshaw
330 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:41:07
Are there any quotes from Lukaku thanking Everton? Just asking...
Brian Williams
331 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:41:37
Graham. If you don't want personal insults don't spout shite!

You know nothing of the circumstances of Rooney's departure and YOU are personally insulting people on here by accusing them of their feelings being "faux".

Brent Stephens
332 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:43:42
I think we demean ourselves when we start to wish the worst on somebody. It's just a game of football, after all. We're better than that aren't we?
Andrew Clare
333 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:44:28
I hope we don't hear anymore about Lukaku like we did about Moyes after he left. Scored a lot of goals but always wanted to leave us.

I will cheer for Rooney as I do for anyone that wears Everton blue but I too wonder where he will play. We really need lots of pace upfront to be effective and unfortunately Rooney doesn't provide that.

Anyway, I hope I'm completely wrong and Wayne is a great success.

Tony Hill
334 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:45:44
I see Kevin Ratcliffe also thinks this is a Kenwright deal. But if you read Koeman's comments, they are sharp and carry no illusions.

Apart from my hope that Rooney could bring about a resurrection of Barkley, my main hope for Wayne is that he can be turned into a serious passer and a setter of tempo. It's also conceivable that Koeman sees him as an out and out finisher.

Either way, Rooney must stop thinking that he has to exhaust himself in the team's cause and that he must always be involved. If he can develop the arts of patience and stillness then that is our and his best hope.

Counter-intuitively, we need him to slow down if he's going to offer something serious to us.

Graham Mockford
335 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:46:46

I love Wayne, always followed his career. Was proud of his achievements knowing where he had come from. I also never had a problem with him wanting to move. The Everton of 2004 was not really a place to be when you were the best teenage footballer in the world.

But let's not re write history here. He through his agent actively sought a move by handing in a transfer request.

The money received may well have shored up our precarious finances but let's not pretend he was dragged kicking and screaming from the club.

Tony Waring
336 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:49:35
If we "riot when Hibbo scores" what the hell is it going to be like when Rooney gets his first ?
Graham Mockford
337 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:52:10

Are you seriously disputing Wayne Rooney handed in a transfer request after Euro 2004?

Graham Mockford
338 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:55:36

Oh and I'm really sorry if I hurt your feelings. Is this where I insert a smiley face?

Jim Bailey
339 Posted 09/07/2017 at 17:58:05
Graham @327

Whether he did or didn't, if he hadn't of been sold no-one would be having this conversation as the club were in dire straits financially at the time.

And if anyone couldn't see that he was miles ahead of what Everton could offer at the time, they should of gone to specsavers.

Welcome back, Wayne.

Phil Bellis
340 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:03:41
Late to the party again, chaps.

David (#316) It wasn't what was said about their new clubs but rather the lack of anything about EFC from Lukaku.

I wonder, considering this long-felt and often stated need to play in the Champions League and the new love affair with Pogba, where would Lukaku have gone if Man Utd hadn't won the Europa Cup?

Mark Andersson
341 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:11:53
Rooney was advised by the Everton board to hand is a transfer request, as Rooney didn't want to leave but they talked sense into the lad that he was saving the club in the long run. In doing so, Everton got more money from the transfer. Simple economics. That is why he is back and rearing to go to prove a point. He owes it to his own boys..

As for kissing the Man Utd badge, what do you expect when the nasty side of football fans give anyone stick to a young man they just react in the moment... Time will tell if Wayne can make a positive contribution back to his boyhood team

Graham Mockford
342 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:22:04

Do you have a single credible source for your assertion he was advised to hand a transfer request in?

Here's how he was quoted in the Echo at the time.

Rooney said: "I hope Everton's fans will understand my decision."

"This has been one of the hardest decisions of my life but I feel the time is now right for me to move forward with my career.

"The Euros were a fantastic experience for me. It made me realise I could play at the highest level.

"To do that I need to be with a club that is playing in Europe every year. I hope the Everton fans can come to understand my decision and I hope the transfer fee Everton Football Club receive will help the club move forward.

"The Everton fans have always been fantastic in their support of me. I hope they respect my decision and I also hope that some day in the future I could be welcomed back to watch the team I have supported since boyhood."

Again I personally have no issue with his decision at the time, even listening to the quote you can hear he was conflicted but again let's not imagine he was dragged kicking and streaming out of the club.

David Barks
343 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:28:08
This rewrite of history with a completely fabricated story about the club begging Rooney to leave in order to balance the books needs to be stamped out. I have no problem with his decision to go, it was the right call by him. But do not make up this BS about him not wanting to go and Everton forcing the move. Just stop.

He left because he could, because his star had risen and Man Utd being the biggest club in the world at the time wanted him. This wasn't some sob story of Rooney being forced out, he wanted out and made it happen.

John Otway
344 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:31:35
Cripes, David. You sound like the man in the know.
Mark Andersson
345 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:44:20
Come on, boys – I know fuck-all about football. I was just yanking your chain.

But sometimes, like Spiderman, my sixth sense has tingles and my tingles tells me Rooney left as a boy reluctantly with a statement from the club to ease the displeasure of the fans and all under a cloud of not wanting to go...

But he is back and as a man wanting to prove his point. I am Spiderman and my tingles are never wrong... hahaha!

Eric Myles
346 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:44:26
David (#343), yes Rooney was so desperate to leave Everton that he waited a few hours before the close of the transfer window on deadline day to put in a transfer request?

Same as Arteta?

John G Davies
347 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:47:25
Over the fuckin moon.

Besides myself with happiness.

Feel like I've got a Yankee bet up.

Go ed Wayne son.

Mark Andersson
348 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:53:24
That's the spirit, John G Davies, love it.
Peter Gorman
349 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:55:54
I've got a lot of sympathy for those with polar-opposite views of this lad; whether he is a 'Judas' to the rabid or a 'Once a Blue' to the romantic, I understand why people think the way they do.

I am equally in two minds about what he can do on the pitch – he is clearly a shadow of his former self but he didn't actually have such a bad season last year. Sure, few goals but his general play was decent and he created plenty of chances for Ibrahimovic for one.

Quite foolishly, it dawned on me pretty slowly that we have just signed a true legend of a footballer. He is a global icon, it is undeniable. So, whether or not he produces consistently on the pitch is one thing but the stature of the club has just shot up across the world, this is something everybody is noticing.

Graham Mockford
350 Posted 09/07/2017 at 18:59:18

Again let's just deal in facts.

It is an easily verifiable fact that he handed in his transfer request on the 27th August, leaving five days for a transfer to be arranged, after both Newcastle Utd and Manchester Utd had made transfer bids turned down by the club.

Unlike Arteta, who did hand in a transfer request on deadline day after Everton turned down £10m from Arsenal.

Graham Mockford
351 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:02:50
Mark Anderson

That's a no then, other than your Spider sense?

Maybe not enough to convince me on consideration.

However I am with you in that I'm chuffed he's back.

John G Davies
352 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:03:56
And Arteta, who could not polish Wayne's boots, is treated as a hero.
John Keating
353 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:07:43
Great news and a great bit of business.

I would have given Hibbo's dog a two-year deal at £150k a week to show a bit of balls and pissed offness – I that a word? – during a game.

For years we've apologised for fouling opposition players, placed the ball for them for free kicks, clapped opponents when they've scored against us and been the most nicest team in the world. So if Wayne (or Hibbo's dog) can break that mould, then brilliant!

Eric Myles
354 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:08:04
So desperate to leave he waited until 5 days before the close of the window then, Graham?

But so desperate then to hand in a request in the previous 7 weeks the window was open?

Eric Myles
355 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:13:52
And transfer wasn't completed until deadline day.
Mike Green
356 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:14:50
We should all be pinching ourselves – and I would hope Rooney is too.

Graham Mockford
357 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:16:59

Again let's not rewrite history. There is a public record of Wayne explaining why he wanted to leave. I have quoted it in #342.

In the 13 years since the transfer happened, I have not seen one public assertion he was forced out of the club.

We have no idea what negotiations were going on between the end of the Euros when he became the hottest property in world football and when he handed in his transfer request. Unless of course you have some inside info you wish to share.

So I know it fits a current narrative to make him some sort of martyr who was cast into the wilderness, but in reality he left for fame and fortune.

And good on him I say.

Shane Corcoran
358 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:18:20
Eugene (#172), I've spent most of the day trying to come up with a comeback and I've finally got it; no, you are.

You put up a good fight.

David Barks
360 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:19:44

Do you remember that Summer? It was a foregone conclusion. I remember it quite well, being in Houston for the matches against Pachuca and America. I made the mistake of wearing my Rooney jersey and the looks I got from other Blues, you would have thought I walked up in a Gerard shirt.

It wasn't a last minute thing, it was Everton who waited until the last minute to allow the transfer – just as Moyes always did. It was always a case of waiting until the last minute and then finally giving in to the inevitable and coincidentally not allowing us time to sign the needed replacements.

Dennis Ng
361 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:22:13
Why are we arguing the things that happened 13 years ago? We were flirting with relegation at that time. The move happened and we never really looked back at the same disaster since.

We should all be invested in the future and look forward to the new team. I am cautiously optimistic as it would take a while to gel as a team and weed out duds. That comes with the territory of buying so many players for the first team.

David Israel
362 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:32:31
Jack (#281),

That has crossed my mind, too. And he was the one who asked to play in Ferguson's testimonial.

Brian Wilkinson
363 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:38:57
John g@352, same will happen with Rom, sick of hearing he gave us 4 years, only because none of the big clubs came in for him, or he would have been away quicker than a vicar fleeing a brothel raid. Certain players like Rooney, Lescott, Stones got hounded big time, but the likes of Arteta and Rom will get welcomed back opened arms.

A couple did it close to transfer deadline so fair point, but this guy has tried from the first season he joined to tout for a bigger club, at every opportunity, international breaks, like I said not even had the decency to return to Finch Farm on Thursday to say his goodbyes to his ex team mates, not one single tweet mentioning Everton Football Club or the fans that backed him.

As an ex Red once said, I would love it, I would really love it if we were successful and he falls flat on his lazy fat arse.

Gregory Kelly
364 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:45:41
Welcome home, Wayne, want my dressing gown to go with the pjs? Only been worn every day for ten years.... but never to the corner shop.
Paul Kossoff
365 Posted 09/07/2017 at 19:57:41
Here's a question lads, have many of us would have Lukaku back if he fails at Man Utd?

I'll start it off: I wouldn't.

Brent Stephens
366 Posted 09/07/2017 at 20:04:46
Does that mean you don't want Rooney back, Paul?
David Barks
367 Posted 09/07/2017 at 20:05:08

Why would we want a player if they failed? Wouldn't the better question be if Lukaku succeeds at United, would you have him back?

Andrew Keatley
368 Posted 09/07/2017 at 20:23:19
I am surprised that people are comparing the recent Rooney and Lukaku statements. Rooney has signed for Everton, and therefore has said his formal thanks and goodbyes to United. Lukaku's transfer has not yet been officially announced (possibly to allow Rooney his uninterrupted 24 hours of limelight) but, once it is, I fully expect him to thank the club and fans for his 4 years with us.

These things are all stage-managed by the player's agents/teams, and it would be one hell of an oversight to not issue such a statement once the transfer is confirmed.

Lukaku has not shown himself to be hugely sensitive to Everton in his various media interviews over the years – and while his assertion that Man Utd are the biggest club in the world (and have the best fans) might be a slightly bitter pill at this point, it'll be sweet music to Man Utd fans– who are going to be the people that he will soon be answerable to.

For the record, I am glad he is going. I cannot argue with his goalscoring record, but I feel that we will be better equipped as a team once he is gone.

Jason Barker
369 Posted 09/07/2017 at 21:19:34
Well, for me, this is an absolutely superb signing. Wayne obviously feels that he has unfinished business here or else he would have taken the American or Chinese money.

I for one, have never thought that he's on his way out yet, he's still got plenty to offer and I can't wait to see him leading the line on the way to the Blues winning the title. Yes, winning the title.

Gordon Crawford
370 Posted 09/07/2017 at 21:49:44
Graham (#335), nowhere did I say he didn't want to leave. If he did then so be it, after all he was young and petulant. But at the same time, if he hadn't've moved we may not be watching our beloved Toffees today.

We need to forgive and move on from 13 years ago. I'm all for giving him a chance. It's going to be some ride this season. :)

Brian Williams
371 Posted 09/07/2017 at 21:55:47
Gordon. You're nearer the truth than post 335.
Jerome Shields
372 Posted 09/07/2017 at 22:18:02
Wayne Rooney is not a player that a club aiming for a top 4 finish should be signing. I doubt that any other team in the Premier League enquired about him.

His performance in & since the World Cup in South Africa have not been to international standard and his Premier League appearances in the pass 5 years have been based on trying to justify the decision of paying him inflated wages.

His next move will be to America or China. The move to Everton is to give him a shop window. No way is he at Everton to improve the club. To think so is completely delusional.

He looks that he knows this and is smiling as the gravy train continues for the foreseeable future.

Graham Mockford
373 Posted 09/07/2017 at 22:18:37

Where did I say that you said he didn't want to leave?
(You see how this works!)

Undoubtedly the Rooney transfer money helped at a time of precarious finance but thinking that our club would have gone out of business without it is a bit of a stretch.

Personally I don't need to forgive anyone because I never blamed him in the first instance. He made the right move for himself and his family financially and the right move footballing wise.

Philip Yensen
374 Posted 09/07/2017 at 22:49:16
The only good thing in bringing Rooney back to Everton, is even at 31, he has better legs than Barkley. A better football brain, better work rate.

I still don't see the sense bringing him back. We'll see...

Gordon Crawford
375 Posted 10/07/2017 at 00:39:30
You got me there, Graham. :) I don't think it is a stretch to say we would have went under. But as I said, that was 13 years ago and it's all irrelevant now. I hope this year we smash the top four. and I believe that Rooney could help do this. :)
Stephen Scofield
376 Posted 10/07/2017 at 00:40:08
And before we forget. He was FREE! Unreal when you think about it.
Steven Jones
377 Posted 10/07/2017 at 22:42:39
Jerome – you are delusional.

Steven Jones
378 Posted 10/07/2017 at 22:49:25
Wayne is a different class to any signing we have done. He may even set sail to re-write the record books once again.

This man is Billy Boots and when back at EFC he will come out flying. Yes, there at defenders and people who do not believe, but hey-ho – this man creates miracles, even if there is a slide on his physical skills.

The sharpness – the brain and the touch is still sublime, let's hope – and it is a hope that his talent in the ball turns into goals; that would be wonderful .

But just to have our boy back – to have the guile, the sharpness of thinking, and the confidence will do this side well!

Jerome Shields
379 Posted 10/07/2017 at 23:34:31
Steven Jones,

I hope you are right; I have been a supporter of Everton since the 1960s. While I agree with you that Wayne Rooney has great skills which he will never lose, his physical fitness to get the space and time to apply these skills in the Premier League has been found wanting for sometime.

Also a lot of Man United supporters have been disappointed at his lack of effort and commitment to redress this short fall ,though he has been fortunate with injuries. As Johnny Giles said, "I had the privileged to have good skills, but always throughout my career I worked hard to show them at the highest level, unlike other players." Compare Rooney to Ronaldo.

Everton have always achieved as a tight team,when they are not dependent on a individual player. Rooney as a saviour is not going to happen,under the present Manager. Rooney was also fortunate he was a member of a good team under Sir Alex.

Is he worth the wages he is going to get? Does he think he is going to turn the clock back? Is he glad that Everton exist and sign him? What other team wanted him in the Premier League? Have we all heard the same template from various players, been rolled out by the Everton Official Website. Does he think about China and USA.

Good Luck, Steven, this season, I hope you are right.

Jerome Shields
380 Posted 11/07/2017 at 15:15:09
Hope you are right, Steven. I have supported Everton from the sixties and the only player who returned to greatness was Andy Gray, who never gave up.

Rooney has the skill, but his fitness and ability to get time and space has declined below Premier League standard.

Can the Manager build a team to progress? This is a question which has not been answered yet. Rooney is also very dependent on the answer to this question.

Will Rooney be happy to let the funds flow, that he is accustomed too, and shop window himself for another pay day.

Last week Johnny Giles said, "I was given great skills and always tried and worked hard to perform at the highest levels of performance, others didn't."

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