Koeman: I still believe I can change our situation

It's just awful st the moment; dreading the derby and God knows it'll be a cricket score when we eventually play at Wembley on that massive pitch against Tottenham unless this is sorted out.

Having said that, at least he showed that he cares in this interview. And that he understands what an utter shambles the last few weeks have been.

Is it possible to organise a "petition" for fans to sign - RK has got to go. Get Unsy in there to save our season.

He would be the best paid tea lady in the universe but it would save sacking him.

Then promote Unsy to the top job.

Inevitable.

This is a slow burning catastrophe and the sooner Koeman goes the better. Whether the squad is good enough to avoid relegation is now in dispute but unless he goes it is inevitable.

Supporting Everton has always been up and down but this truest is the low point - we're in a black hole and yet again need a complete rebuild of the squad, new manager, new ethos. Utterly depressing.

Can you imagine the shite he'd serve up, he'd give tea ladies a bad name.

Best get rid now.

Didn't O'Neill get relegated or something similar? I do not think MoN is a good progressive choice. Ideally someone who can come in with a long term plan and turn it around quick.

I fear that this is going to be a long and testing season, and it will take a lot to get these players to function. I think as a group of players they are bang average, only Rooney who had been a top player the rest just journeymen players.

Whenever and whoever we appoint as the new manager he has a massive job on his hands. I would also suggest that this board cant get the next appointment wrong otherwise we will definitely be looking likely to go down. I know the cry used to go up this team is too good to go down, well I have seen better teams than this go down.

https://thesefootballtimes.co/2017/04/11/making-a-manager-the-rise-of-ronald-koeman-from-the-ashes/

Seems Koeman either gets it right or very, very wrong

What Everton now need is people in charge who care about the club, not a chancer who merely regards it as another project

I have often disagreed with Tony Marsh, but you know what, his anger is justified. Something stinks, putridly stinks about our club.

First of all, the organisation and tactics of the team will have to be overhauled and new players brought in January with this in mind. Also the players that Koeman brought in will have to be sorted out accordingly (some are not suitable) and the existing Everton players that have been below the standard required for at least two seasons need replaced.

Our new owner hopefully has learnt by the expensive mistakes he has made and has the wisdom to apply the above changes to safeguard his investment. That's how serious things are and how bad the damage Koeman has done to Everton Football Club.

Both Moyes and Martinez build on what was there and did maintain the Everton Culture to some extent; Koeman tried to build god knows what, but has damaged Everton in the process.

Over to you, Mr Owner, the Future of Everton is in your hands, and may your god be with you.

Not having a striker is Koemans get out and that is Walsh/The boards fault.

Will he go?

Doubt it, not yet.

Can't believe these idiots in charge went into the season without a proper striker, what made them think that was a good idea?

Set of fuckwits.

Name any redeeming play in the whole season from game one pre-season. Rooney and his goals are th only thing that has made me smile. We've been awful and scraped a win against Bournemouth Stoke and in the Europe league qualifiers.

Then there is the weird formations. No width again from July. No pace. Truely depressing stuff. We are the definition of relation fodder.

Different right backs every game, playing in the same criminal formation with nobody infront of them and asked to defend against 3 or more players when we don't have the ball.

Koeman still don't know his best team and formation fuck me its like watching kids, they just follow the ball. Arsenal missed and or Pickford saved three great chances before Rooney scored today.

Strong nowhere on the pitch, out fought by Arsenal, its shambolic. Every team in the Premier League I can make a case for or they have strengths, we have no pace lack strength, leaders and leak goals galore.

It would be a start to play players in positions they are familiar with with keeping clean sheets the aim.

We don't shoot. Whether or not you have a Lukaku, if your cultured midfielders or left backs (Sigg, Baines) don't shoot on sight, you won't get goals. Rooney is our top scorer. Quel surprise.

The one touch passing triangles under Moyes and Martinez have gone.

No pace down the flanks.

We keep changing formation.

RK must go now. Last season was disappointing given we had no cups and Lukaku and Barkley papered over the cracks. Now we're just about the worst team in the Premier League.

For those of you saying Tuchel...err he fell out with Dortmund for exactly the same reasons we dislike Koeman. For those of you suggesting Big Sam...no. Moyes...he knows the club but not many of the players now. So I reckon a backroom staff sort of arrangement to keep us up and then Sean Dyche in the summer.

Was it NOT your decision to leave Gana in and switch to a 4-4-2 at halftime?? It completely left Gueye exposed and he was a red card waiting to happen! Midfield overrun, two men in the center of the pitch, one of which was fantastic in the first half, but surely on a yellow and with his style of play should have been withdrawn?

Your direct decision was the reason we looked shite in the second half and went down to 10 men!

He's completely delusional!!! STFU already and just go!

He keeps not starting with Tom who will chase up the pitch and upset the opposition hence we end up being penned back so players like Gana get cards.

We're in trouble now because next match we have no defensive midfielders.

Where are all the posters complaining of negativity now? Without change the rot will deepen and drag us down.

Like him or not, the club has no choice.

Against a team like Arsenal who moves the ball wonderfully (it is beautiful at times tbh), don't you minimally clog the midfield to attempt to mitigate that?

And if you're going to keep Gana in the game on a yellow, why in the hell do you open up midfield by REMOVING a midfield player in a 4-4-2, leaving TWO midfielders, one of which is known to go in quite hard, quite often - ON A YELLOW?!

I personally love Gana. I think he's a great little tough player. He was, in my opinion, superb in the first half. He was completely put in a terrible, no win situation by the manager second half.

But as Ronnie says, those types of decisions aren't in his hands...

I realize you're basically agreeing with me and you recognize a recurring theme with a solution to the problem - a high-pressing Davies relieving pressure from Gana / whomever is sitting deep.

I'm venting. Why?

Because I absolutely fucking despair!

The man must be gone tomorrow.

If things haven't turned around by the time Watford roll into town I expect Rhino to be in charge.

Mind you, Watford are no pushovers either. How sad that I'm worried about a home game against Watford!

Like Lyndon's excellent piece more recently about Koeman - Phil's piece articulates the 76% of us who see where the club is going unless Moshiri acts now! He's a prog rock fan too - so he's okay with me anyway (McNulty that is, not sure if Moshiri likes any Gabriel-era Genesis!).

Seriously though, if the 24% who have decided that keeping with Ronald is still the best option ( and I appreciate the thought of a Moyes return us a touch uncomfortable) - please tell us why we are bring too premature and need to be patient? I'm at a loss!

I agree with you. If we're going to be losing games, I'd rather we do it under Koeman. There's no point bringing in Unsworth yet. What a sad way this whole sorry affair has me thinking.

What is clear, we need to drastically change it. More of Mirallas in central positions, more of Lennon when he is fit and pick a team of aggression and pace. I think so many players are being overplayed at the moment, older ones too, it is untrue.

I am probably stating the obvious, but we need to act quickly, we are relegation fodder imo.

Like I've said before - There IS no good time, not Wed, not Leicester, none. The 'good' time to get rid has past, there is only what took you so fucking long.

And then there's the 'being Everton factor' they haven't even started looking. I'll wager a pound to a piece of shit that they haven't anybody on speed dial they can say to 'Did you see the result? are we still on? yep, good, give me a day and I'll get back to you'

The side has stunk the place out week after week. There have been one or two games or parts of games with positives - away to City, Niasse's cameo, the rally against Lyon - but for goodness sake we've beaten Stoke and Bournemouth and didn't deserve either. Koeman is the man who has failed to keep Lukaku, ruined Barkley, frozen out McCarthy and Deulofeu and brought in the likes of Klaassen, Sigurdsson and Ramirez who'd get beaten up in the under 20s. This is the man who whined on about 'productivity' and said it wasn't 'a priority of Everton' to give Ross a new contract when Ross was creating goals and chances galore because he has pace, the strength of an ox and football talent to burn. And Koeman brings in to replace him people who'd get blown over in a stiff breeze. This is the only Dutchman I know of whose English isn't brilliant, the only manager who has to have his brother working for him, the only person on the planet who pronounces 'half' to rhyme with 'golf'. For god's sake he's managed to make Roberto Martinez's recruitment look phenomenal.

With Ramiro injured it was obvious to a dog that we needed a new left back, two cente holfs and a striker to replace the incredible sulk. We get one out of four and a job lot of No 10s who make Eden Hazard look like Patrick Vieira.

There isn't a single positive about him or his time at the best club in the world and he needs to be gone NOW.

We have only played 9 games, and Ron will be gone soon, with enough time ahead to recover. We have a rich owner which means we should still be able to compete on a reasonably level playing field with other clubs at the high end. If Watford and Burnley can, then so can we.

We have a very good squad if not great, with many players, possibly too many, who have proven themselves with us or other clubs and who should and will come good sooner rather than later.

We have a plethora of young talent in and around the club, the likes of which we have never had before; Kenny, Davis, Walsh, Lookman, Oneyekuru, Dowell, Calvert-Lewin, Holgate, Garbutt, Galloway . . . . . . and we still have Ross . . ?

We have players to come back from injury, Coleman, Bolasie, Mori, McCarthy, as well as players who have to rediscover form, who may well do so if managed correctly.

We have the new stadium (land) waiting in the wings.

Do you honestly think the Club will let that awful prick Koeman derail the aspirations of thousands and the invested millions? Absolutely no chance. Koeman either goes as soon as the replacement plan is organized, or he comes to his senses and turns it around (which I doubt will happen). If he doesn't then a new manager, preferably Unsy when the time is right, will provide the professional service they are paid to do. Give Moshiri credit, we all make mistakes from time to time, its just that at his operating level, and in the public eye its not as simple as changing an ill-fitting pair of shoes . . . . . .

It's a win win situation, just a bit more stressful than the norm, but certainly more interesting.

Keep the faith, COYB.

8pts from 9 games. 40pts the accepted tally which gets you safety.

32pts from 29 games required. We have to win 1in3 games for the rest of the season.

Can we see this team under Koeman achieve that? Absolutely not.

The sad fact is any, and I do mean any new manager will pick a team and stick with it. In no more than a month the side will look better, more cohesive and harder to play.

Why has this fella not even tried to do that? He has chopped and changed, never given any changes chance to take root, strengthen and grow.

Basically he thinks hes too clever, often changing to outsmart his opponent. He has shot himself in the bollocks.

The issues are self inflicted in my opinion.

Quite amusingly as Koeman gets the bullet, Ross will be saddling up his white charger.

Assuming we lose all the rest. Basically we have to average about a draw every game.

Jeez - we're discussing the maths of avoiding relegation...,"32pts from 29 games required. We have to win 1in3 games for the rest of the season."

Assuming we lose all the rest. Basically we have to average about a draw every game.

Jeez - we're discussing the maths of avoiding relegation...,,,1,04:53:52,,81.108.253.187,ok,19747,10/23/2017 04:53:52,Overdrive,reader,, 861968,35690,toffeeweb,23/10/2017,Will Mabon,stevesunbury@gmx.co.uk,"We have a TW article about possibly recalling Onyekuru from loan.

Meanwhile this morning, there's a rumour that he may be sold for a double-the-money profit. Strange rumour.

It's all going tits up for sure.

The money in the game these days - we should be well on the way to a new state of the art stadium, with the most expensive tickets being less than £20 - should be the same for every team. Feel for the fans who give up their hard earned and their time to watch this. Bad enough in another country on a dodgy stream...

But you catch my drift, Everton under Koeman have no scrappers for a fight.

A soft touch at home and excruciating away from Goodison.

The main ingredients for a relegation battle.

No need for excessive doom nor misplaced optimism; a simple look at the table tells the facts as they are right now.

Martinez was sacked for that total.

I think that would be the top end of our points this year, based on that a new man who can concentrate on stability and bedding the younger players, with emphasis on the fa cup or the season will just implode.

Grim times.

Had me laughing out loud, that one. Probably the only smile I'll crack all day, mind you. Cheers!

I've been saying for months that Koeman would do to us what he dd to Valencia, that is, take the team from a position near the top of the league and turn them into relegation fodder. He's used the same tactics with us, both on and off the field, as he did in Spain, before he was sacked.

Let's not forget, he was also sacked from his next job at AZ, after 7 defeats in 15 matches, then walked away from Feyenoord after failing to win the Dutch league. I was then surprised to see him turn up at Southampton and was dismayed beyond belief when he was announced as our replacement for Roberto.

His only real success as a manager came at Ajax, who were so far ahead of the rest for n Holland that Ronald McDonald could have won the league with them.

Since then it's been a liturgy of sackings and walkouts. So why did Moshiri think he was the man for us. He's a fraud, a serial failure, who will take us into the championship if allowed to remain in his job.

Is anyone doing the maths for Moshiri? Does he not realise the amount of points we now need just to achieve safety in the league? Next week could be a week too late. For God's sake, he must get rid now!!

Everton have been a constant state n the top division of English football since the year I was born. I do NOT want to spend my old age watching us in the championship or lower as we struggle to regain our top flight position.

The proud history and heritage of Everton F C demands that Koeman is sacked, this very day, or we will be facing dire consequences. I take no pleasure in being proved right about Koeman but just hope the club do the right thing while there's still time to save ourselves from disaster

Is a change of manager going to make any difference before the January window. We need to replace Williams with a younger, faster player and bring in a top target man up front, clean up the cluttered midfield etc. Busy window coming up, eh?

Who will be the manager to do this?

Giving Koeman more time will be a foolish act on the part of the board. Everyone knows that he will ultimately be sacked and any delay gives his successor fewer games to turn things around.

You advocate playing either Garbutt or Galloway at LB. Garbutt failed to hold down the position at loans with Wigan & Fulham over the last 2 seasons and his performances for the U23s this season have not been encouraging. Galloway is on loan at Sunderland for the season so isn't available. And by the way he started the season in the LB birth lasted about half a dozen games and was dropped. He can't even make the bench now. The current LB there is Oviedo. Also, Tyias Browning can't get a game there.

It's not the answer to simply promote all the youth players like Feeney. I have wanted the inclusion of Kenny for a while but watching him yesterday was hard. Here was a promising young player who was played in a team bereft of confidence and it showed. It badly effected him. Where was the tough tackling overlapping full back who graced the U23s as they won their league last season? Nowhere to be seen. He didn't show for the ball and didn't get close enough or track runners. I'm not really blaming Kenny and I really hope he'll get further chances but that's the problem of bringing young lads into this septic environment. Our focus should be on the seasoned pros who earn the big bucks and have mostly been shocking. They need to quit the talking before games and actually just do it on the pitch like they give a damn.

This different rightback every other week is as silly as Koemans wingback system with a back four.

To many youngsters may do more harm but if the promotion to first team is earned then whoever it maybe should be eased along to help and improve us. The way Davies was used last season and in his correct position should be a template.

An oversight on my behalf, even if we wanted Garbutt in, he can't play until January as he isn't registered.

I can't argue with what you have said, but it does highlight the lack of options and the desperation of the situation. Any alternatives?

Is the Board going to act? How can he possibly stay on? Unless the club cannot afford to sack him ?! I wonder if the same gormless prat who 'negotiated' Martinez's contract has again merrily accepted the clause ensuring full payment to the end of the contractual term, regardless of being dismissed for failing to perform...

I have only the sliver of hope of a quick sacking and the new manager bounce to look forward to now. Mind you, if that new manager is Moyes, I will officially give up on Everton and start supporting my local team Oxford United instead.

My best hope is that he will last until we've been knocked out of the Caramac Cup, and been defeated by Leicester.

So, our search for a new manager will begin officially on Monday 30th October. I really hope they are already talking to Tuchel or Ancelotti...

Ha!

Apparently we do now.

I wonder if Ross Barkley is knocking on Kenwright's door and asking him if he has a pen?

Good to see Everton catching up with modern football. Managers are expendible: give them 18 months but keep hiring and firing til you find a Pochettino.

Unsy, as interim manager, for me