Unsworth says it's too soon for talk of relegation battles

The board must widen up and get real to the decay of this club and appoint a new manager asap else EFC will go down, as this team of professional shirkers and cowards V aside of a few who prove they care, must be shipped out, retired, contracts terminated, sacked etc. Bring back all the players on loan in January and start 2018, with some fight, passion and belief.

The club is dying and the patience of supporters whom have put up with loads of despair and bad news for donkies years, have genuinely had enough.

Sick is not the word any more, and decisive action is needed this week.

Six points in the next two games will go a long way to settling everybody down but can we say with any certainty that this team are capable of winning either or both of these upcoming matches?

If this week doesn't motivate then what on earth will. They'll be playing in front of full houses. Moyes in the mixture and two teams who will also be fighting for survival.

âš½ GET BEHIND 'EM, LADS âš½

8 months and the players aren't arsed under Koeman.

5 weeks and the players aren't arsed under Unsworth.

The times and names differ, but the players don't.

No attacking threat at all in either game and 9 goals conceded . Could have been a lot more too if they were more clinical.

We need a manager in tomorrow, to give us any chance against West Ham.I hope when Moshiri said it was close on Friday he meant it.

The delay is costing us points.

Oh boy.

True. But let's get this fellow away from the first team.

And when Kenwright escorts him out the front door, slam it shut behind them.

I'm not saying Unsworth should have got the job permanently. One championship for the sprogs does not a talented manager make, but our board have fannied about for over a month now in seemingly pursuing and being rejected by every type of manager, or their present employers for those not recently sacked for incompetence, or worse in Allardyce's case. Across the media we are described as a shambles. Not "close to" Farhad, but "a shambles" right fucking "now".

You personally Mr Moshiri have shown yourself by the club's boardroom misconduct to be either incompetent, emasculated or frightened, or all three. For the owner of our club even one out the three is a disaster.

Now is not the time to piss about, we need players on the pitch who care. I would certainly include Rooney but play him deeper and I would bring in Sandro because for all his faults he certainly puts in a shift.

Yet, here we are & still no inkling as to whether the Board have actually made any progress at all towards making a permanent appointment. How long now, another week? Two?

It's far too soon to talk relegation, we are still 4 points off 9th. If things are still dire, we could spend £100m+ in the window and buy some better (we hope) players in January and ease our way out. Things need to turn around and turn around fast though. And for that we need the new manager in place by next weekend, if not by Wednesday.

This the most talented, highest paid bunch of losers I've seen for quite a while. Unfortunately, they're our "bunch of losers".

I can't see anything changing before January, new manager, or not. The next window is going to be our most important one in the Premiere League era. If we blow it, relegation WILL be discussed. Big time!

We spent circa. £143M and recouped around £90M leaving a net spend of £50+M. If we had sold Ross for around £30M that would probably fitted the ffp framework. Let's be clear. No one is going to get a load of cash to improve our squad without selling first. Whoever comes in will have to wheel and deal to change the playing staff.

Also some of the fee is add-ons so we can subtract that. Same goes for all the other big fees. It's easy to get around FFP just ask PSG and Man City.

Also name one team punished and their punishment. I'll give you a clue: FFP punishment Now would you risk breaching FFP to stay up if that's the punishment?

Not sure whyy Moshiri and/or Kenwright just didn't re-sign Moyes with the same terms as West Ham! O'Neil, Pulis forget it... Unsworth is using the same team Koeman and Walsh assembled (not his) and now whose authority has been undermined by the board.

We're in real danger, especially if we're arrogant enough to believe it's too early to worry.

The managerial appointment is crucial, but it's well over due. I'd like to give Moshiri credit given his credentials that the FFP stuff is lip service and we have structured deals in such a way or are prepared to simply absorb any action... But the hash made in the window and appointing Koeman's successor is not filling me with confidence.

This club needs a change and to get back to basics. There's no room for sentiment now and if that means Unsy, Ebbrell and Duncan moving on then so be it.

These are desperate times despite what Unsy says. No team that's conceded 28 goals at this point has survived and that says it all.

Martin O'Neill is said to be in pole position (lucky him!) but is 15 years past his best as his most recent Ireland selections and tactics told. Although, he does travel with that master of management Roy bloody Keane!!

I know it's becoming an obsession with me but I just can't help thinking we are following the Villa pattern to a tee and with a football ignoramus like Moshiri calling the shots we shall surely finish up in the same place!

I, like many on here, have no idea what to do next. All we can hopeful is that the terrible twins at the helm get it right /strike lucky for a change but for sure they better hurry up about it!

The players and coaching staff should be ashamed of themselves the way they have shaped up this season – it's unacceptable. Pull your fingers, out for god's sake – our supporters deserve better than what they are getting at the moment.

Like him or not, David Unsworth is not up to the task of managing EFC, regardless of the situation. People can go on about the quality (lack of) and age of our squad but the one thing any good manager should be able to do is to get the players to put in the required amount of effort into each game. This has obviously not been the case.

He did inherit a shit situation but there has been little upturn in results since he arrived. In fact, we can be grateful for getting 4 points from Watford and Palace purely down to being massively lucky. We should have come out of both those games with 0 points!

The one main 'unknown' admittedly is what the effect of the obvious rift at board level between Moshiri and Kenwright is having on the club in general. This is outside of the manager's control but footballers talk and in the football community it must be an open secret that all's not well behind the scenes at Everton. Wonder how much of a negative impact this is having on the manager search.

The whole club has been a slow car crash for so many years, I'm getting the horrible feeling we're now running out of road, fast.

He will probably see 𧴜 million wiped out of the club at the next January sale. He will want a Director of Football who works with a manager directly on player purchase, team set up and planning the just in case scenario... Doing what every other business does... operational and strategic planning.

Right now we need to get out of the crap... quickly! I said a while ago one has to be pragmatic, that future planning is great, but tomorrow needs fixing today. We ARE are a high risk of relegation, THAT comes first.

Whatever or whoever is needed to fix that even short term is demanded. We do not have the luxury of a foreign coach given time to find his feet in the Premier League. Direct situational experience required. I would take Big Sam right now till the end of the season and start again.

Make no mistake, the blame for where we are is with the previous manager, the management of the club and the players... in that order.

I think this will be Kenwright's last season... it should be.

The money lost from broadcasting Premier League will be a massive impact and the heavy contracts for the luxury players. I think if Everton go down, it will take years to get back to normal.

The Board, like many of our supporters, thought we could and can just amble merrily along getting hammered every game and "just sort it out in January" Deluded, totally deluded.

I cannot believe that anyone, watching us game after game is still under the impression we are not in deep shit and well in a relegation battle.

Moyes will sort West Ham out. Woy is slowly sorting out Palace. West Brom are acting while we and many of our supporters think we're okay until the last 10 games or so until the end of the season.

One deluded posters said we should leave it until then and if we are still in trouble then bring Big Sam in then! Unfuckingbelievable.

While we still have supporters believing we are not in trouble then we are in trouble!

I have defended you as a true blue – albeit an incompetent manager – over and again but you too are now as deluded as that buffoon Kenwright. Fuck off both of you, please.

Fuck off and take the rest of the under achieving parasites with you.

The 28 goals conceded stat is frightening. Our goal difference means we are a point worse of as no one has a goal difference worse than ours. It will get worse as I cannot see us thumping anyone all season to get some of the difference back.

Kinell Geoff, were all angry, pissed off ,worried etc etc but that's OTT

When ginger comes to town on Wednesday and demolishes this disgrace of a team maybe even Unsworth will wake up.

I was talking to Andy Carroll in the car park, and he basically just said, "We were told just to bomb your area with high balls and you will fold."

God fucking help us on Wednesday if Moyes follows suit.

However, as we are all aware, that would, once again, merely be papering over the cracks.

We have an aged (not ageing defence), and even when Coleman returns, we have no left back cover for Baines (who is now, regrettably past it), one recently signed replacement centre half (who's confidence is now apparently "shot" and is considered too slow), another on long term injury and two who are also past it.

Our first choice defensive midfielders offer little protection to our aged back line and do not appear capable of playing together effectively.

Finally our forwards are either inexperienced, past it, or all want to play in the same position.

This is not a mess of Unsworth's own making.

Equally, in my view , it is not a mess that any manager is going to be able to resolve without access to new players in the January window.

The most recent transfer window has been ironic in the sense that we had more money to spend than any time in the recent past, yet we have bought new recruits in all the wrong positions and not addressed the shortfall in the positions where we did badly need to recruit.

This was added to by the fact that Koeman either didn't realise, or didn't care that these mistakes were being made, compounded by the fact that so many of our younger, but very promising players were allowed to go out on loan (eg, Galloway – who had played very well at left back in recent seasons), but failed to register the one other established left back on our books (Garbutt) in the first team squad.

If we do get into a relegation battle, these will be the factors that caused it, not Unsworth.

He is making the best of a very poor hand that fate has dealt him.

Speaking of the January window, one of the first things we need to do is get back as many as possible of our loanees as most do not seem to be getting any playing time in the clubs thy have gone to, yet Browning and Galloway were both regulars in our first team for some months in recent seasons and neither let the side down.

Sounds ridiculous I know, but we have been trudging along as a football club for 30+ years now and I just wonder how much more do we have to go through before we get a proper management team in and we rediscover the spring in our step.

I personally don't know where I stand in this one. My heart says a big no, but my head is not so sure.

This is all hypothetical of course. But I just wondered am I alone in thinking this?

NO! A thousand times no. And hypothetical anyway. We don't choose if Everton go down. And if they do go down, "they" might remain.