Season › 2017-18 › News Sandro secures Sevilla loan move Lyndon Lloyd Tuesday, 30 January, 2018 62comments | Jump to most recent Confirmed Sandro Ramirez has been handed a route out of his frustrating spell at Everton with a move back to La Liga agreed. The striker will join Sevilla tomorrow, initially on loan but the Spanish club reportedly have the option to make the move permanent in the summer for €9m. Sandro was a potentially exciting acquisition for £5.2m from Malaga in July last year but he has found the transition to the Premier League difficult, not helped by the Blues' poor form. He hasn't seen action since before Christmas and has since been dropped entirely from the first-team squad by Sam Allardyce. Everton will receive a reported loan fee of just €200,000 but could make a small profit on the 22-year-old if his switch to Sevilla goes well. Reader Comments (62) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Nigel Munford 1 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:22:13 And we're still 9th, amazing but true. Michael Lynch 2 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:28:35 Ah well. He looked good on YouTube, even better than Niasse in fact. Memo to our Director of Football stop scouting players on YouTube. Hugh Jenkins 3 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:30:28 Watch him go in the summer for 9M then turn into the new Messi.... LOL. James Flynn 4 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:30:38 I hope he kills it there. So, we give him another chance with us.No problem with players coming into the Premier League and having some shock at the pace and physicality. Just the way it is.But La Liga is no joke either and this 20-year old Sandro did the business there.So, knock em dead at Sevilla, Sandro, then c'mon back. Minik Hansen 5 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:32:06 If Sevilla can use him, so can we. I don't get it... I will do if we get him back in the summer or make money on him. Maybe Everton need a couple more Latino players, so players like Sandro can settle more. Drew O'Neall 6 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:37:21 They've set the permanent option price way too low and in fact shouldn't have even included it in the deal. Jim Bennings 7 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:46:37 People can forget seeing Sandro play for Everton again.He's not going to want to return to Merseyside once he's got used to the life in sunny Spain and Seville is a beautiful place for it!!Just about getting as much as we can for him now. James Marshall 8 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:48:54 He was never going to settle at Everton it's best he leaves for himself and all concerned. He's a young guy, Spanish, living in Liverpool where the weather is shit and the football is equally as shit.Good luck to him. He has talent. Bob Parrington 9 Posted 30/01/2018 at 22:53:40 So, losing track! How many salaries off the books, both long and short term, would this make in this window if we also include Henen to Sunderland? Jerome Shields 10 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:10:54 Starting to feel that Allardyce is reducing the wage bill and Everton's future with it. He is putting a bigger effort into that than addressing weaknesses in the team. James Stewart 11 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:12:15 Stupid. Loan... okay, fine, but permanent for 9M, why agree to that? He will obviously do well there. Mike Gaynes 12 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:14:59 Loan: good move.Option to buy cheap: Bad mistake. Major talent, should be nurtured, not sold.Memo to Michael some people actually watch La Liga live, not on YouTube, and 16 goals in that league ain't no web video invention. This kid can play.. Brian Williams 13 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:18:45 Where is the 9M permanent deal mentioned? I can't find it anywhere on the OS. Gavin Johnson 14 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:19:30 Bob (#9),That will be Sandro, Mirallas, Lennon, plus Klasseen and Besic should be going to Napoli and Boro respectively. There's also youngsters like Henen and Walsh. In terms of money saved that must be somewhere in the region of 𧹈k a week. Weren't Sandro and Klaassen on a bout 𧴜k a week each. Plus loan fees in Sandro and Klaassen's cases.I think the issue here is that we need to get the aforementioned off the books so we can meet Financial Fair Play rules if we decide to bring someone else in ourselves, more so than a big cost cutting exercise.Glad Sandro got the move. 𧶀k loan fee is way off the ٠m we reportedly wanted but we should double our money on the ٣.2m outlay if he gets his scoring boots back in the more conducive surroundings of Spain.Fingers crossed a left-back or a fast midfielder who has the ability to link up play will be brought in tomorrow. I have a feeling we'll bring in the kid from Anderlecht. Bob Parrington 15 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:27:36 Thanks Gavin. Awful thought is I had already missed Mirallas from the list. I agree with your thoughts of kind of players to bring in but still nervous about our current central defender options. Tom Bowers 16 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:31:27 There has to be a few more departures, loan or otherwise and quite honestly they will all be glad to go permanently as Allardyce has already determined who is squad will be.However, come the end of the season I am sure others will be gone because I cannot see some of them getting any better.For most of them, they have had more than half a season to show their worth and failed miserably.The big questions surround Seamus, Baines and Funes Mori as they get back in from injury and whether they will strengthen this porous defence down the line.Yes, other positions are also weak in front of the back four so we will have to wait and see what Allardyce does between now and next season. But certainly what he has is rubbish at the moment despite the big wage players and promising young lads who have disappointed this season.. Derek Knox 17 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:40:38 Jim Bennings @7, spot on there, I don't think we will see him back to be honest, it's a pity really, but he should have taken that charlatan Walsh with him.Louie Walsh, Tommy Walsh, or even Ruby Walsh would have fared better than he has done, with a pin and a piece of paper. (sand paper, a map of the desert, in Tommy's case) He has, with the exception of Jordan Pickford, been a party to all recent transfer dealings, which have all been over-the-top prices, for less than mediocre players.He should be pilloried in Bramley-Dock, for his activities in the transfers, what a waste of space he has been, and good oxygen for that matter. I exclude Walcott and Tosun in the above, but having said that, a temporary reprieve, as the jury is still out, as they have been installed in a shambles of a team at the moment.The one bit of fresh air that emerged from all this, was the prospect of finally getting rid of Schneiderlin, alas that was short lived, not for sale, I think most would gladly see him go for nought. Kieran Kinsella 18 Posted 30/01/2018 at 23:43:20 Gavin (#14), You forgot Barkley. Plus Gethin Jones left and he was curiously in our Premier League squad along with Sam Byrne while Garbutt was excluded. Mathis — another Director of Football summer signing, is off on loan to Northampton. Grant would've been but for administrative ineptitude. David Reid 19 Posted 30/01/2018 at 00:01:50 "There are more ways than one to skin a cat," & so it is to win a football match. Whichever way you choose you need to assemble the right tools to complete the task. Sandro's 14 goals in La Liga, 2 goals behind Griezmann, 1 behind Morata & one more than Neymar... unfortunately, that's not our way. Gordon Crawford 20 Posted 31/01/2018 at 00:20:37 He ain't coming back. I would expect him to blossom and produce the goods. They will play football unlike us. We are truly brutal to watch and have got worse. Anthony Dwyer 21 Posted 31/01/2018 at 00:35:40 I'd have preferred to see him loaned to Newcastle to see if he adapted to the Premier League.I don't think he will play for us again; also, I don't think he was ever given a chance. Si Cooper 22 Posted 31/01/2018 at 00:39:47 If we are sending him back to Spain, there can't be much expectation that he would have ever adapted to the English game. ٧ million as the option for Sevilla to make the move permanent in the summer seems cheap the way transfer fees are rising all the time now. If he performs at all well for them I would have thought we would be asking 㾻 - 20 million minimum. He must have made it clear he has no intention of returning to us no matter what. Iakovos Iasonidis 23 Posted 31/01/2018 at 00:41:15 Good for Sevilla but not good for Everton? Jesus wept... Gavin Johnson 24 Posted 31/01/2018 at 00:45:26 The Guardian are saying 9M (٥.8M) buy option. He'll probably score every other game now knowing our luck. I'd totally forgotten about Barkley, Kieran. Must be cos I've been trying to erase the lil' bonehead's existence outta my mind. Colin Glassar 25 Posted 31/01/2018 at 00:53:55 If I played for Everton, I'd probably want to leave as well. David Barks 26 Posted 31/01/2018 at 01:06:20 This is very depressing. Ron Marr 27 Posted 31/01/2018 at 01:19:35 Send Kenwright, Walsh, Allardyce et al to Azerbaijan Rovers. Bill Gienapp 28 Posted 31/01/2018 at 01:27:22 Sevilla wants Sandro. Napoli wants Klaassen. But by all means, let's just write them off and keep insisting they aren't good enough. SMH. Andrew Presly 29 Posted 31/01/2018 at 01:33:46 Should've been a loan to a PL team to see what he's about, not this kind of deal which would've been there for us this summer too. Tony Everan 30 Posted 31/01/2018 at 01:34:01 Sounds like he has made it clear he wants out. ٥.8M is nothing these days so we won't see him again.I wish him well and will follow his progress. I still believe he will come good with a bit more maturity. Chelsea will probably sign him from Sevilla after the Euros in 2 years time, for 䀆M. Gio Mero 31 Posted 31/01/2018 at 02:13:26 Good deal for us. We made a profit if we get to sell him which shouldn't be too difficult anyway. He was neither the cause of our problems nor the solution. Si Cooper 32 Posted 31/01/2018 at 02:37:22 Not much of a profit Gio, and we supposedly got him at a rock-bottom price. In fact, if you look at how transfer fees have continued to grow it's almost like just recouping the outlay (ignoring his wages for the last 5-6 months). Have you seen anything of Tosun that convinces you he is worth 4 times as much?Looks more shambolic than good business to me. Andy Codling 33 Posted 31/01/2018 at 02:56:50 Brilliant, not given anywhere near a chance and has been deemed not good enough. Cuco Martina, however, is deemed good enough, this is why we are shit. Terry White 34 Posted 31/01/2018 at 03:45:38 What a load of rubbish, Andy (#33). Tom Dodds 35 Posted 31/01/2018 at 04:43:06 What club in the Premier Leaguewould set an option to buy clause on a striker from a decent European team,that when first bought was considered a right fuckin 'nick' by the rest of the European football fraternity?How fuckin' bottleless to not even see how well he does for the rest of the season there first???I now sincerely believe that Les Patterson, the 'other' Australian ambassador, would do a far better job running our club than this board. Mark Andersson 36 Posted 31/01/2018 at 06:01:21 Is there any good news lately???You know that thing that Everton are really good at like gifting a opposition player a goal who has never scored in his career or some team has not won in 20 games then win against us.Well Big Sam has saved many a team's bacon from the drop zone... but you know he is gonna take us down! Paul Mackay 37 Posted 31/01/2018 at 06:11:45 James (#8), He's a young guy, Spanish, living in Liverpool where the weather is shit and the football is equally as shit.Because no young Spanish players or players from "hot countries" have ever excelled in Liverpool?It's irrelevant. Brian Porter 38 Posted 31/01/2018 at 06:27:56 Great deal for Sevilla; crap deal for Everton. When was he ever given a run of games to allow him to adjust his style of play to suit his new club and his teammates? It was as if he was expected to hit the ground running in Koeman's pathetic attempt to produce a team. The lad was never given a fair chance to prove himself in an Everton shirt and will now probably go on to become a real superstar and we will wonder why we never utilised his skills when we had the opportunity. Gio Mero 40 Posted 31/01/2018 at 06:44:38 Si @32 Nope I haven't. We'll lose money on that one.I'd like to put on record I couldn't care less about somebody else's money anyway. It would be nice if we'd spend it wisely though. Anthony Hughes 41 Posted 31/01/2018 at 07:27:56 A shame, like Klaassen he was never given a good run of games to get up to speed and at least have a proper look at him. If he was struggling then why wasn't his situation managed? We've got a manager on £5 to 6 million (I know, I can't believe it either) why didn't he try to manage and help him? Ben Collins 42 Posted 31/01/2018 at 07:29:09 No where else is reporting of a transfer fee at the end of the loan, just a straight loan until end of season. It seems he will be back, hopefully with goals to his name and more confidence. I agree that going out to Spain is hardly adapting to English game though. Amit Vithlani 43 Posted 31/01/2018 at 07:53:32 Staggered to read his puported wages.Add to that the fact that he did not set the world on fire, and it might have been a source of friction in the club.All ifs and buts however.The fact is I hope he is a success at Sevilla but am afraid this one may come back to haunt us ie, right player wrong time (eg, Materazzi, Dacourt, Newell, Keown). Liam Reilly 44 Posted 31/01/2018 at 08:38:39 No chance he's coming back and this one will undoubtedly come back to bite.We can't even get a fucking shot on target at the moment; have apparently no interest in looking for another striker this month, so what do we do: we sell one of our options! Jim Bennings 45 Posted 31/01/2018 at 08:40:12 Let's hope we aren't having a similar discussion regarding Tosun in the summer!?If he doesn't start banging them in soon, I think patience (not something that's ever been in great supply in football at the best of times) will soon wear thin come Springtime.But the thing is really, when you pay biggish money for a striker to solve a lack of goals issue, you kind of need him to be scoring sooner rather than later... Tommy Coleman 46 Posted 31/01/2018 at 09:07:33 So he can't get into the Everton squad but can get into a Champions League team. Work that out. We'll get to see him against Man Utd next month. We should be keeping these young players and wait for the right manager to get the best out of them. Tony Everan 47 Posted 31/01/2018 at 09:16:01 Jim, Tosun needs better service. I think tonight we will put on a good display and he will open his account. It will be a novelty tomorrow reading some happy posts. Sam Hoare 48 Posted 31/01/2018 at 09:18:27 If that buy-out price is true then its way too low. Spain U21s main striker who did brilliantly in his first full season in La Liga should be worth twice that. Minimum.I'm pleased that he has a loan move but as others have pointed out its crazy that the likes of Napoli and Seville are chasing players who we have decided aren't good enough for our astoundingly mediocre first team. Neither Klaassen nor Sandro have been given enough minutes to bed in properly and have fallen foul of the bizarre logic that players with more Premier League experience will naturally fare better, a logic that Schneiderlin has single-handedly proven wrong this season. Victor Yu 49 Posted 31/01/2018 at 09:29:12 My Sandro prediction:- Score 8 on loan with Sevilla this season- Signed by Sevilla permanently in the summer for 9M- Scores 20 next season- Off to Atletico Madrid for 25M next summer- Becomes a regular Spanish international- Off to Real Madrid or Barcelona before the end of his career James Ebden 50 Posted 31/01/2018 at 09:34:05 Am utter joke. He's finished for us. He needed to go to a Premier League club to improve. And 9M is pathetic in today's market, we should be demanding 20M+. Chris James 52 Posted 31/01/2018 at 10:13:04 To be fair he has been given some games and never looked up to the pace for me. Whilst the technical quality is high in Spain, there's a massive gap in pace and physicality between La Liga and the Premier League and clearly its proved a step too far for Sandro.Ultimately, and especially now we have 5 centre-forward options (Tosun, Rooney, Walcott, DCL and Niasse) I don't see the drama here. We took a punt at a crazy cheap price, it didn't work out but we've let the player head back home and look like making a small profit. Seems pretty smart operating to me, Anthony Hughes 53 Posted 31/01/2018 at 10:58:31 Looking at the five strikers Chris lists above hardly gets the juices flowing. Rooney's best days as an out-and-out striker are over, Walcott at 28 years of age has never held down a centre forward position. Calvert-Lewin whilst keen and young but the jury's out on his goalscoring, Tosun could be anything and that leaves Niasse who gets the goals but is pretty much a poor footballer. George Cumiskey 54 Posted 31/01/2018 at 12:48:01 Sam Allà ardyce is doing exactly what he was brought in to do, cut the wage bill and get rid of a few fringe players.He was also tasked with keeping us up by playing any type of shit football necessary and boy is he doing that. He's already said about keeping clean sheets no mention of attacking and scoring more goals than the opposition.This dinosaur is not the manager to take the club forward and if the board can't see that we are in for a long miserable future. Phil Walling 55 Posted 31/01/2018 at 13:44:14 The Cumiskey shout above is dead on the button. Moshiri wrote this season off with the appointment of Allardyce who he saw as the Club's immediate saviour.Just what the moneyman will do when we are again seen to be in danger is anybody's guess. But he keeps saying he 'get's Everton' so all should be well.Not without a left-back and a few goals it won't, chum. Villaland beckons and Bramley Moore Dock may soon offer the only option for escape ! Alan J Thompson 56 Posted 31/01/2018 at 14:24:34 This lad looked like he had some ability on the ball but we get shut while retaining the likes of Schneiderlin. The best that can be said is that it is a matter of opinion but most certainly, not mine. Tony Waring 57 Posted 31/01/2018 at 15:28:29 #52 - I watched Valencia v Real Madrid a few days ago. Was it slow ? Was it hell; I was exhausted sitting in my armchair. Full blooded, fast and skillfull. Footy in Spain is not slow and its certainly not as boring as watching Everton ! Tony Waring 58 Posted 31/01/2018 at 15:38:01 Forgot to add it's also pretty physical... not unlike the Premier League in fact. Jerome Shields 59 Posted 31/01/2018 at 17:58:45 Agree with you totally George (#54). I can't see any change tonight only confirmation of Allardyce running Everton into the ground with Moshiri thinking everything is going to plan. Jack Convery 61 Posted 31/01/2018 at 20:44:17 Good luck Sandro ! John Clowes 62 Posted 01/02/2018 at 11:30:52 It was a shame he didn't work out for us following all of the hype when we signed him.From what I've seen (which admittedly isn't a lot), the only way he would have worked out was if we went with two up top and he played alongside a target man, looking for knock downs etc. He was never going to work out as the main striker on his own. I can't really see how he would fit in playing for the team either now or in the near future. Such a shame after all of the hype but it's good to get rid of his high wages (which wasn't his fault) and to make a profit on his transfer fee which will go in the summer transfer kitty. John Davies 63 Posted 01/02/2018 at 19:20:51 Good luck to the lad. Hope he does well. Was never given a chance here but then with the shite football Allardyce wants to be played he will be better off elsewhere. Barry McNally 64 Posted 03/02/2018 at 13:30:15 Did anybody see Sandro in action for Sevilla today? Kevin Naylor 65 Posted 03/02/2018 at 14:54:09 Dont know how he played but was pulled after 66 mins in a 5-1 defeat. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads