Season › 2017-18 › News Inconsistent selections and unimaginative tactics – why I have no faith in Sam Allardyce at Everton Lyndon Lloyd Wednesday, 7 February, 2018 18comments | Jump to most recent ToffeeWeb's Lyndon Lloyd shares his views with the Echo on Allardyce, Cenk Tosun, Eliaquim Mangala and the need to resolve the recruitment issues at Everton. » Read the full article at Liverpool Echo Reader Comments (18) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Andy Williams 1 Posted 07/02/2018 at 23:24:44 Well said, Lyndon. Very good article. Hope our magnificent board reads it. Chad Schofield 2 Posted 07/02/2018 at 23:37:29 Great article. Very balanced, fair on what is a very disappointing season on so, so many levels. I hope we rebuild and focus shifts away from what we'll achieve next season, to some respect by that I'd rather we don't just keep exactly the same personnel and continue sacking people as soon as things go slightly awry (but Koeman and Allardyce need(ed) to go). Jack Convery 3 Posted 08/02/2018 at 00:16:12 If I wasn't a cynic I'd say we are being taken for a ride and EFC are being set uo to fail. Its the only explanation that fits the facts. We are shite. Ray Smith 4 Posted 08/02/2018 at 02:27:50 After the Leicester game I was mildly taken to task for having a glass half empty and for wanting jam on it!Then came the debacle on Saturday evening.Problem I have now is the half empty glass broke when I dropped it, and as for wanting jam on it, I'd settle for bread and dripping!I was prepared to support Sam at the start, but his constant criticism of his players publicly leaves me somewhat non-plussed.Time to go Sam, your not the man I thought you were. Shallow, despite the outward persona. Brian Porter 5 Posted 08/02/2018 at 06:43:50 Well said, Lyndon. An excellent article that I think sums up the feelings of most of us. I haven't been posting as frequently as usual on TW recently, purely because my mood has shifted from one of elation at the dismissal of Koeman, to mild despair at the appointment of Allardyce, to one of complete numbness combined with anger to see what Allardyce has turned us into.This should have been a landmark year for me, as I celebrate my 60th year as a supporter of Everton FC. Instead, I find myself in a state of apathy, no longer expecting the team to win games, whoever the opposition. Football shouldn't be like this but it is what Allardyce has reduced it to. Whatever damage Koeman wrought upon our club has been compounded by Allardyce, who has showed himself to be an even worse tactician and man-manager.As I celebrate my 65th birthday, I do so having pledged not to watch another Everton game as long as Allardyce is our manager. How sad that this has come to pass, but unless a large number of us take a similar stance, I fear the board will continue to oversee the absolute destruction of the club I have loved since I was a boy of 6 years old. No more, I just can't take it any longer. Keith Harrison 6 Posted 08/02/2018 at 08:21:24 Sums up the situation perfectly. Well done Lyndon. Jim Bennings 7 Posted 08/02/2018 at 08:38:34 Let's get things nice and clear.Everton will never have a truly good team under Sam Allardyce.His record as a manager is that of a troubleshooter, a survival kit backpack that you go to when you are sinking in quick sand.He is a manager that gets small clubs stable but never big club with bolder ambitions on to the next level.The football is totally dire, the West Brom game was the most outrageous game of “football “ I have ever witnessed from an Everton team, 90% of the time that round leather thing was in the air.The trouble with Allardyce though is he's not even doing what he came to do, all full of big promises on “I'll restore the confidence and get the defence stable again.He opened his big trap way to soon after Chelsea in December by saying “I've got the defensive side nailed now, on to the attackâ€.Ever since then our defence has been ripped apart, that stupid public statement smacked of Allardyce basking in his own self glory, and it gave the players a platform to switch off and hit complacency. It was a very naive statement from a man his age and of his experience.He's failing what he came to do!! John G Davies 8 Posted 08/02/2018 at 09:11:35 Perfect summation of where the club is at the moment Lyndon. Dave Abrahams 9 Posted 08/02/2018 at 09:30:19 Read the article this morning in the Echo; it says, Lyndon, what a good percentage of Everton fans are saying or thinking, very good. I hope someone of importance reads and acts on the many good points of view.I mean someone of importance, not impotence, we've got an awful lot of them. Lawrence Green 10 Posted 08/02/2018 at 10:47:41 Lyndon certainly expresses the frustrations of many Evertonians in this article and in 'A Path Through the Gathering Gloom'. I think what irks me most is that nobody at the club seems to be taking ownership of what happens out on the pitch or at Finch Farm. It's all very well spending money albeit in an overly inflated market and persuading 'talent' to sign for the club in the first place, but there's far more to making a successful team than that. Nobody can dictate results as it is a sport after all, but surely somebody can set out an ethos for the squad to adhere to, rather than drift from game to game, hoping something clicks and then, even when it does, it's ripped up to suit whoever we happen to be playing on any particular day. If the manager is given the role of setting the standards of the squad, surely the owner/board should dictate what is and isn't acceptable as far as what the fans see on a match day. It's not enough to try and make Goodison a fortress, it's as important that away from home Everton also show off their skills and ability in order to gain points and raise their profile. Watching Everton become an also-ran, make-up-the-numbers type of team is bad enough, but to do so whilst they have displayed so little style, passion and energy is soul destroying. Somebody at the club must stand up for what the fans want and everybody at the club should desist from distancing themselves from the issues surrounding the first team squad if somebody was to take ownership of the issues, then we might see a solution to some of our failings and we could then begin the long hard road to recovery, if someone doesn't take ownership we will drift towards the path which Sunderland and Aston Villa supporters are all too familiar with. Jim Bennings 11 Posted 08/02/2018 at 11:25:41 Lawrence GreenYou make a fantastic point there, mate.It's one thing spending money on talent or an extra 㿔 million on someone that should be worth 㿀 million but is that how you build “a teamâ€?It was never ever great under Moyes, let me make that clear, but when we had our good seasons, we had a unit, the players blended into a team, and the likes of Cahill, Arteta, Pienaar, Carsley, Yakubu, Saha, Fellaini etc. The defence knew itself, there was stability of Jagielka and Lescott, then Distin and Jagielka with Baines and Hibbert at full back, later on Coleman.Everyone knew the team, there were tweaks here and there but the team and unit remained largely the same.Now you look at Everton and not one of us would even get close to naming the starting eleven for Saturday, it's different players every week, most in unfamiliar positions. Derek Knox 12 Posted 08/02/2018 at 18:08:09 Well in Lyndon, I just hope Sam reads the Echo, or any of his backroom staff, or are they all blinkered?I certainly hope we see a better and balanced team selection for Saturday, from what I've seen of Palace thus far, they are no mugs, a bit unlucky and lacking goals. Karen Mason 13 Posted 08/02/2018 at 20:50:57 Great summary well articulated and accurate as to how most of us True Blues see things. Some of Allardyce's comments have proven beyond doubt that he is not the man for us. But then we all know that. <:>His public castigation of the players after the Arsenal game was a disgrace. If the team was disorganised and ill-prepared, that, surely, is his responsibility. He has abdicated responsibility for every bad game. To publicly state that the preparation for that match was to watch the Swansea vs Arsenal game to show Arsenal's weaknesses, and therefore play the same game plan as Swansea, is incompetence on a level I can't even express. Does he not think that the Arsenal coaches would also have shown their squad the video to correct their mistakes? Also, why are we copying another team's game plan? Why are we not creating a game plan that maximises the skills and talents that our players undoubtedly have? It's little wonder the players have no confidence or motivation to play. Man for man, the players are all capable of so much more, but are clearly being stifled by a clueless manager. There are no excuses now. We have strikers, we have speed, though the decision to put Lookman out on loan and keep Bolasie is a mystery in itself. We have defensive mid-fielders and creative midfielders, we have young legs and some old heads. So where is it all going wrong? We need a manager with more vision for our squad. I'm a hopin' and a prayin' that Allardyce is replaced by or before the end of the season. In thinking about who I would like as a replacement... would Arteta be an option? Just thinking that he ticks so many boxes. He's played for us and knows the club well, loved by the fans, played in the Premier League, coached at Arsenal – consistently top 6 team – and now working with the best in the business, who he must be learning from? I know it would be a gamble because he has never managed – per say – but whoever we take is a gamble. Perhaps there's nobody bet-ter... than Miguel Art-eta...??? Peter Lee 14 Posted 08/02/2018 at 21:34:08 Given the players available since he arrived what imaginative solutions in terms of personal and tactics in particular games would you have advocated with any expectation of better outcomes?The GOOGF answer of "well they couldn't have done any worse" isn't allowed. Peter Lee 15 Posted 08/02/2018 at 21:50:02 Given the players available since he arrived what imaginative solutions in terms of personal and tactics in particular games would you have advocated with any expectation of better outcomes?The GOOGF answer of "well they couldn't have done any worse" isn't allowed. Pat Waine 16 Posted 09/02/2018 at 10:22:51 Sam Allardyce is a short-term stopgap. Everton under Koeman have damaged their reputation internationally. Under other managers we have done poorly but we never had the money Koeman had to spend. Top 6 spenders in Europe over the past few windows and we look like we need about 8 players. My view is that Koeman wrecked the club from top to bottom. Koeman must have agreed with the idea of bringing in Walsh which has not worked. Most of the flops he brought into the squad he knew what he was getting before he purchased. Klaassen is a case in point and Martina he knew well. Everton have needed a left back for years now as Baines has slowed down and picked up injury after injury. The centre-back position is fundamental in any Premier League side and it is still not solved after Koeman bought two centre backs. The keeper, Rooney and Sigurdsson look like the only 3 buys that have a hope of working out. It will take years to solve the mess Koeman left behind. Karen Mason 17 Posted 09/02/2018 at 15:13:08 Hi Peter Lee, to answer your question – my tactics for any of the games would not be to fly the white flag even before the players walk out, by playing with almost a 10 - 1 set up, which is what I have seen for most games since Allardyce came. Little wonder the players have no confidence, as he is virtually saying to the opposition: 'We can't compete with you.' With a plethora of midfielders at the club, and lack of strikers which is what he inherited, I would always opt to press the ball higher up the pitch, and not defend so deep, inviting teams onto us, which in turn makes ball retention all but impossible. Playing 5 across midfield, given our personnel, would seem a better option to me. Press and win the ball higher up the pitch, less disjointed from defence to attack with 5 in midfield and more ready support for a loan striker. Ball retention should also improve. If mistakes and loss of possession happen higher up the pitch, you at least have a fighting chance of recovering. Mistakes made when you spend 85 minutes defending in your own penalty area, are almost always irretrievable. This would not be my ideal line up with strikers at my disposal, but for what Allardyce inherited, it would be. For me, deep defence is never a successful tactic and many a team, who have been winning a game have lost in the end, because towards the end of the game, they defend toooo deep. So doing that for 85 minutes, for me is a non-starter. So judging by your question and tone of it, you agree exactly with what Allardyce has done and don't believe it could be improved upon. If that is the case, please don't apply to be our next manager ! Bear in mind, I am only a fan, and not being paid zillions to do the job. (However,my qualifications to express my distaste of his tactics are born out of extensive experience in hockey – which is the same as football in terms of tactics and game plans and my experience is at both club and international level.) Jerome Shields 18 Posted 10/02/2018 at 13:51:34 Totally agree with this article. Big Sam's attack on 15 fans on the internet, Lyndon needs a cut of point, so he can sleep. The actual figure is 30, 000. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads