Coleman feels fans' frustrations

Your return is the best thing that has happened in this miserable season.

Off thread but I just heard supposedly strong rumour that we are lining up Wenger as our next manager.

No! No!! No!!! He's past it.

After Saturday's performance and conduct, even if he does play again, he must be stripped of armband duties surely!

Next Saturday at home to Brighton will be the acid test of actions speaking louder than words, but I am not holding my breath.

The fans are feeling very patronised and players stating the obvious but still producing the same results just won't cut it anymore, I'm afraid.

It was a slap in the face going on a “holiday” to Dubai for some training and what has it reaped other than two more away defeats to pretty ordinary but harder working teams than ourselves!! That's the biggest issue for me.

Clubs like Brighton, Burnley, Bournemouth to name a few might not have as illustrious a history as Everton but the players at those clubs seem to actually want to play for them. You watch them and they sweat blood for the shirt and wear the badge with burning desire.

I've never been so embarrassed by a bunch of Everton players that just look so damn rudderless and leaderless once it sets foot out on the pitch. My question to them would be:

Do you all want to play for Everton Football Club??

Do you all care enough?

Actions on the pitch, wins and points and getting out of this season still in the Premier League is poor reward.

Brighton are playing well Stoke are improving, the trap door is opening, and I for one have no confidence in them piss poor players getting us out of it.

It's one thing lacking quality but lacking will, fight, desire and pride in the jersey is truly disgusting – this bunch haven't showed any of those things.

Repay us by giving winning performances in the next two games... what about the rest of the season!!!!!

Just a bit of fuckin effort over 90 minutes would be nice!

They're not playing well, but there's no motivation. Anyone in any job would be affected by that.

Mr Moshiri should tell the players the truth. Give it to them straight and give them a reality so they can concentrate solely on their football.

Tell them that Sam Allardyce won't be here after May.

Tell all the players that the ones who let their standards slip, they will be out too.

Much would be learned in these last 9 games about characters and commitment.

Time for the club to get wise soon before this season is lost. We've had two last-day sink-or-swim games in the 90s – this time, there's no guts or fight in this team.

You could see it when Burnley players were busting a gut, some of our players just went through the motions.

Ferguson use to examine a players character as much as his ability. Do they hate losing, like Peter Reid did? How many in our squad hate losing and rip in to their teammates at half- or full-time.

I would prefer to go to battle with team mates of limited quality but know they will give it all.

Quite rightly a lot has been said about Lukaku 's departure but the key player for me leaving has been Barry.

Look at our midfield: we have energy in Davies & Ghana but no general who can manage a game. Sticking Rooney in and expecting him to do that is just naive.

It is a specialist position and we do not have anyone who can play it, not even an "on form" Schneiderlin can do it as he doesn't have the mettle.

The hope is that our home games with the Goodison roar and a bit of luck get us the points we need plus the deficiencies of those below us because I do not want to be playing Moyes in a 'must win' last game of the season match with this lot.

Kids go on the pitch at the age of 11 and don't need motivation to want to make themselves heroes so why the hell do our players continually need wet-nursing and fail to do the basic minimum of actually just damn-well running and walking off at the end with dirty kits and sweating?

We are a huge club with a small mentality both on and off the field and, until that changes, we will always be fighting with the likes of West Brom for Premier League mediocrity. Just not good enough. Change of manager needed then root out the garbage we have in our squad, of which we have a lot.

The decision-making and the lies about ground moves have made me fall out of love with the club. In life, you should try to be the best you can be – and this goes for football as well... aim high.

We don't have a winning mentality at this club and it starts from the people at the top. Liverpool, Man Utd, Barcelona, most top teams that have won things keep some legends on because they have created their own dynasty at the club, they have set the example.

Can someone tell me why Duncan Ferguson is still here? He was never good enough. He carried the fight at a bad time for the club; that's about it.

Franny Jeffers left when he was a decent player – showed the club no respect – why's he back here?

Wayne Rooney is finished; you will get the odd glimpse but, if he was anything like the player that he has been, he'd still be up the M62.

David Unsworth, John Ebbrell, Phil Jevons – all these ex-players who are now coaching or playing have either shown the club no respect when it mattered... or were simply not good enough.

We are meant to be ambitious – shouldn't we be trying to create a winning mentality and forgetting the last lot because they weren't good enough???

Now, we are hearing more lies about the new ground again; this will fall through, as they all have over the last 15 years!

All this has contributed to me never going to spend a penny on the team I love, because the people at the top will not kid me. Nil Satis Nisi Optimum is our motto – unfortunately, the people at the top wouldn't know the meaning of that!

I see the press is speculating that we need Wenger as manager, now there's a man who picks three number tens most weeks, and hasn't got a clue how to coach a defence. Just what we need.

I've had it with senior EFC pros giving us excuses and promises. They should either name names – exactly who is it you think let us down. If that can't happen, then keep silent but sort in out at the training ground. Mealy-mouthed apologies are useless and insulting.

Williams and Schneiderlin have been two of our worst players. Their Everton careers should have been over a long time ago. However successive managers have given them plenty of chances.

If either had been a youth team player you would say shown some promise but not yet ready. Pull them out get them a loan somewhere for experience. But there not!

Coleman wasn't ready at 22 but a good loan move that suited his play as a roving wing back gave us all a chance to think he'll do. He's turned out top notch due to his spirit and desire as much as his ability.

I'm actually nervous another team will take him from us in the Summer now he's proven his fitness, but I hope I'm wrong.

We need to get the Bristol City left-back (Byrne?), fab player.

You could probably count on three fingers who looks anywhere near pissed off that we're garbage. The club is rotten from top to bottom. Something is drastically wrong.

Talk of Wenger, fuck off. Talk of Arteta, fuck off even further. I, like every Blue out there, don't have the answer to who to get, but this current crop of clueless management needs to be fucked off pronto.

Come the weekend and The Old Lady will be toxic once again if we roll over and have our tummies tickled as usual. Something needs to happen asap. As for our motto, well, that means nothing to any of them.

This team are lacking balls; some know they are finished, others are waiting for the new manager, but all of them seem to think they have enough points to avoid a scrap. Wake-up, fellas, because every other side in the mire is improving and there are two relegation spots up for grabs.

I certainly don't want to be feeling sick on the final weekend.

Sam is rolling out Seamus because he's probably the only one who can't be blamed for all the shit that has gone with the past 29 games.

The good attitudes in the squad will obviously see who's taking the piss out of them, the fans, the club and football itself so any of those tossers deserve a good slap minimum.

The only problem is that the only firebrand mentality we seem to have who cares is Rooney, a washed-up liability if he's playing anywhere but as a forward. And no, we've got nowhere near the talent to carry him in that role in any event. 𧵎k a week allegedly. The mind boggles.

The jury is out on any of our so-called top youngsters. I've heard fans on here comparing Calvert-Lewin with Kane when he was coming through; there are comparisons to be made – but not with Kane, more like Rodwell and how he vanished.

I would maybe keep 6 of that squad for next season, and that's at a push; the rest would be shown the door but who would take them? Its a huge job and its gonna take time.

I'd still be surprised if Calvert-Lewin really makes it as a top Premier League striker, I just don't feel he has the footballing attributes even at nearly 21. He may become a competent striker at lower Premier League or Championship level but you won't be challenging the top six in this league unless you know what you are doing .

I'd spend the summer bringing in some players that were like Carsley, Cahill, Stubbs, Distin etc back in the day, guys around 24 to 28 years old already functional in the English league with strong characters.

They don't need to be massive mega signings either, there's plenty of players busting a gut at small Premier League clubs that would improve on what we are currently being served.

I personally think Everton would have fared far better this season with a few canny signings, maybe a year long contract for John Terry partnering Kurt Zouma who went on lone to Stoke but has apparently been one of their best performers, or maybe Harry Maguire?

Xherdan Shaqiri instead of Klaassen or Rooney would have made more sense to me, a strong running player who has scored 7 and created 7 goals this season and is surely destined for better things than Stoke. Pursuing Jamie Vardy instead of the nonstarter that was Giroud, Vardy arguably more suited to altering the dynamic of a slow pedestrian team?

Back up players could have seen Callum Wilson or Josh King brought in or maybe a couple of others who work their tits off at the likes of Bournemouth and Burnley. Ashley Barnes looks a handful and Chris Wood looks far more threatening than watch the likes of Calvert-Lewin amble around tamely.

It's what we need to do this summer to just get ourselves performing with a bit of pride again and get back to basics which is what Everton have lost now, a work ethic and a desire.

Don't spend another summer just throwing massive wads of cash on every man and his dog.

It looks like the manager is adopting a couldn't care less attitude because he's getting most of the blame even though he has adopted a squad, with too many players that don't really care

Ask Unsworth, even ask Koeman, maybe it was Ronald's attitude which started it, but I thought it even started to affect Walcott during the second half on Saturday, although that's just my own opinion.

If the players don't care enough, then no manager in the world will fix it. Not unless he's given carte-blanche anyway with everyone working towards his structure, but the players are getting it way too easy, because they know that the fans despise the current manager.

Calvert-Lewin is a matter of opinion. But stats up until Allardyce dropped him showed that he was as good as any striker in the Premier League at winning aerial duels. I think he's very good in the air, he clearly has pace. He is wiry, tough and strong for his age and build. I think he'll fill out some, but hopefully not too much he loses that speed. His passing is not very good at times. But he has neat little flicks and tricks. This side of his game will develop with age.

Not every striker is a goal machine. You need lots of different types of striker. I'm surprised Allardyce benched him, and played Niasse. Of the two, I'd say Calvert-Lewin right now is a much better footballer, and that's his actual ability, not potential. Niasse has the striker's knack of scoring though.

Calvert-Lewin has scored a lot of goals in the youth levels. He has been prolific and this just needs time to manifest in the big leagues with confidence. Harry Kane can attest to that. Sure, if Calvert-Lewin reaches 24 and there's still the same issues, then draw conclusions but you can't say that at 20 years of age.

As for sending him off to the Championship, as I said before, he's as good as anyone in the air, and therefore is of use to us. Tosun is the better striker (I say I more in hope than assessment), but he's completely different to Calvert-Lewin. Calvert-Lewin is a good alternative and an option off the bench. What we need to stop doing is playing him on the wing. He's not a winger. He's fast but he's not got a wingers ability. He's wasted out there and not learning to be the player we need him to be. Also, have you noted that our best form has come with him leading the line and we've been on a rotten run with Tosun or Niasse up top?

Jonjoe Kenny should be good enough for a loan to a Premier League side, but what if Coleman gets injured? He's already picking up knocks, and at 29, age will be catching up with him. I'd rather have Kenny on the bench and ready to come in. I'd also rest Coleman in the cups, unless it's a big game. And make sure we aren't putting too much on him too soon.

This talented trio, and Holgate, and Lookman need games. Games now, and for us. We've largely gone with alternatives and it's not worked. So why not give them games?

As for Jonjoe Kenny, he has escaped a lot of flak purely because he is local. The boy wouldn't get near a start with Leicester, West Ham, Bournemouth etc. He might develop, but a loan to the Championship would be perfect for him.

Tom Davies shows promise and with an old head next to him giving him advice, he may come on, but at present he just isn't good enough.

The best of our youngsters is at Forest, and the only others I would have in the squad are Baningime and Evans.

They are even seeing the new manager doing it now, for whatever reason. Possibly because it comes naturally to him, or maybe because he knows he's not staying, so he's just copying the squad of players he's inherited.

A talented coach or manager, would be able to work with these youngsters, but we have definitely got to get rid of the players that don't really care first.

Would it be a nail in the coffin or could it be used as a cosmic kick up the arse to everyone at the club to get their act together and start working hard?

Not that I would want It by any means… but relegation has had a positive effect on many teams in the past. Obviously not all and would depend on what is done and what changes in that time but in theory it could be the wake up call we need. Or the beginning of the end... who knows?

If we were relegated would depend entirely on the largesse of Moshiri and getting at least one managerial appointment right to get back. Long odds.

Some athletes are super fit and still quick over 30. I mean, at 35 years old, remember Distin? How about Cristiano Ronaldo!?

Vardy seems like one of these that will still be blisteringly quick in two years time, unlike Rooney whose bit of pace he had 10 years ago has evaporated completely now, or other pie-arses over 30 like Williams.

I'd much rather we had bought Vardy last summer and us had a better season going forward than waste a season on kids nowhere near ready. It's okay saying they are going to make mistakes but that shouldn't be to the detriment of the team.

"Jamie Vardy likes to party"...

If he was to be a DoF, then surely The Arse would have first dibs.

Go crack some heads together, we don't want the players telling us how hurt they are, we want them to show us.

It's bad enough listening to Mr Anti-football fobbing us off with hot air. Please, don't you start.

Ashley Williams is one of the first candidates. He needs flogging for ٠ million max to a Championship club, which is where he belongs. The lard arse can look like a hero sitting deep, defending his penalty area, and getting no higher up the pitch in that division – which is all he's good for and is capable of.

http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/moshiri-interested-in-arsenal-manager-wenger-replacing-allardyce-at-everton-4222452

The lads we have brought in apart from a couple have been shite. The Managers we have had / are shite. No one knows WTF we are doing. Not the team, not the board, not the back room staff, not the DOF, not the manager. We are a club in crisis. We all need to do better and if individuals are not thinking that way there is no room at Goodison for them.

That's what you need to say and don't worry if you get fined or suspended, we will march on Goodison in support of you. Baines said it at Man Utd under Martinez and we all agreed with him, which is why Martinez couldn't do much about it, other than to try and say he had been misquoted haha.

The club needs a leader – you are that leader – Evertonians will follow you all the way make no mistake. You get EFC like we do – that's why we expect better.

Well said, Seamus.

Captain Seamus for sure Mike @1. Hell, Seamus for President!

It's time for some of them to step up now but I am not sure they have it in them.

"Fuckin bad news when the commentator of the Palace V Man Utd game states Palace had an off night when they lost to Everton, shows how little people think of us!!!!!"

Yes, and looking back to "yer history" means nothing. As does "getting Everton". We delude ourselves thinking that we're anything special. Pains me to say it.

Like you said, what the commentary said, it's embarrassing being an Evertonian these days. We have no identity and have become a nothing club. Worrying times.

But, like the majority of posters on this article, I'm sick and tired of hearing it and not seeing any actual improvement on the field.

A couple of seasons ago when we beat Sunderland, they interviewed the lad Duncan Watmore afterwards. This was early in the season and by no way a nail in Sunderland's coffin yet, but the young fella was almost in tears and you could see how much he was hurting. I've never seen that reaction from any of our players in the 16 years I've followed Everton. You could mute the tele when Jagielka is talking and just play a recording of any of his post-match interviews and they'd sync up perfectly.

Go through the squad and we haven't got anyone with that character.

Seamus comes closest and must be permanent club captain.

Refund the fans who traveled and witnessed the performances at Burnley and Watford. Talk is cheap and so is the financial outlay to the management and playing staff to do the right thing.

I find it an obscenity that Allardyce is the Everton manager in the first instance – but worse that he clearly sees his future as elsewhere and he is seemingly unchallenged when he abdicates responsibility to the players.

The vast majority of fans, a tad over 15, are desperate to see him and his staff gone and the atmosphere on Saturday will be toxic.

Show some humanity and refund those who earned their money and wasted their days supporting the team they love.

It would be one less thing to despise the twat for.

This season Rooney has contributed too but neither are consistent in their fitness, play or communication.

Keane tried to in a few preseason friendlies but then has stunk the place out and has shut up.

Pickford will give the odd shout now and again but the rest only use their voices to moan.

It's not going to be easy but our next big signing needs to be a quality player but also a leader. A mean streak, kick-ass giant of a player for now, not 5 years!

Don't tell us how you're going to change the world. Just do it! Less time speaking to journalists, more time on the training ground.

Actions, not words, win matches.