Sam Allardyce will never gain the full support of Everton fans, according to former Blues forward Kevin Campbell.
"I think Sam Allardyce has done the job he's meant to do by coming in and solidifying the club but taking it forward," Campbell said.
"I don't think the fans really take to him. I don't think they ever will and I think there's going to be a change in the summer because Everton are a year behind in their game plan.
"They really need to get somebody in there, get the plan in place and get that recruitment drive going. It might take some drastic measures to rip things up but if that's what has to happen, that has to happen."
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1 Posted 03/05/2018 at 10:00:33
He inherited a squad who under Koeman and Unsworth had taken 12pts from 14 matches and were playing with no confidence and were shipping goals to beat the band. A continuation of that rate of return would have seen us finish with around 33 points. Southampton are in 18th position with 32 points presently and have 3 games left. I realise any new manager would probably have come in and lifted the points per game ratio but you get my drift.
Allardyces Everton have taken 36 pts from their 22 games and if this had been the return from the start of the season we would be finishing with around 62pts. To put that in perspective, Arsenal have 57 from 35 games at present.
Im not saying we should keep Allardyce for next season because I don't think the style of football is going to get any better. Nor do I think he's a drawcard that can help to attract the type of players we obviously need.
I don't believe, however, that he deserves the level of vitriol that is quite evident on toffee forums and at the grounds. He was hired with the remit of steadying the failboat and limping to relative safety. This he has achieved and with a points per game ratio which had it been from the start of the season would be competitive with Europa League chasing teams.
Im not thanking God for Sam Allardyce, but I don't think hes the devil hes portrayed as either.
2 Posted 03/05/2018 at 10:10:40
3 Posted 03/05/2018 at 10:19:07
4 Posted 03/05/2018 at 10:50:23
This was never ever going to be a long term plan where Allardyce was going to build a dynasty over 5 or 10 years, he knew that and we knew that.
I still say to this day that the man really culpable for this is Farhad Moshiri.
Nobody can blame Allardyce for wanting a big contract and no matter what people will throw at him, he will walk away this summer and say hes done his job plus a little bit more by finishing potentially 8th.
I cant really be arsed with the animosity club that currently exists with Allardyce, hes done no worse than keeping Koeman nor has he done any better if we finish 8th.
I dont want nor expect him to stay but thats down to Evertons board to sort out.
I just hope Moshiri gets this next crucial decision right because we cant keep going through managers after the financial backing the last two have had.
If its Fonseca, Silva or Howe or someone else I just hope we arent hearing the same abuse aimed at them after three months that Martinez, Koeman and now Allardyce have endured.
The next plan has to be viewed as a longer term strategy where the manager has patience from both fans and board to make his own mistakes and learn from them.
6 Posted 03/05/2018 at 12:10:04
He has thicker skin than a rhino and played a blinder by getting an 18 month contract.
7 Posted 03/05/2018 at 12:44:58
8 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:10:00
No credit from me, no pat on the back. If he had gotten on with the job and showed so class, instead of being crass then youd still want him removed but could muster a ‘okay fella thanks for that.
The guy Im really gunning for is Moshiri, I dont care even if the man is monied to the hilt. He has made a string of poor decisions.
If he has any sense he brings in the DoF that can take away the pressure of appointing/sacking a manager and misjudged musing with Jim White.
If he continues to bumble along then the irony of Everton finally hitting the rocks when ‘we have money will be a fitting epitaph.
9 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:20:30
Clever recruitment of players and a good manager. They are in a champions league final now.
If Allardyce stays it says everything I need to know about Mr Farhad Moshiri and his so called project. Allardyce simply cant stay.
10 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:24:58
11 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:28:14
If we can tread water in 6th,7th,8th season on season I honestly believe he would be happy with that.
12 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:35:23
13 Posted 03/05/2018 at 13:58:51
If it helps to get FS launched I am for it..This for me is very much a case of no decision being worse than a bad decision
14 Posted 03/05/2018 at 14:15:08
His functional football would have suited the England job, he lost that option as we all know.The expose of him needs no explaining,the fact that it was along time 'friend' and journo that blew his cover speaks volumes.
The football he has us playing is the worst I have ever seen ever. The man needs to exit with dignity. I don't know him, but have the feeling that will need to be mansplained to Sam.
15 Posted 03/05/2018 at 14:25:39
16 Posted 03/05/2018 at 14:36:45
Unfortunately there is no proven candidate out there at the moment to move the club forward so face the fact that we have to bide our time to get the right person even if it means living with Allardyce for another season.
Jumping full tilt in hiring the likes of Fonseca or Silva etc. who really do not have really proven records is not the answer.
17 Posted 03/05/2018 at 15:16:38
18 Posted 03/05/2018 at 15:40:06
19 Posted 03/05/2018 at 15:41:36
20 Posted 03/05/2018 at 15:43:44
“Well done Liverpool FC champions league final
Now can our board realise this is where we want our club to be
Anything below first is a waste of time
Show us some ambition please
Nothing but the best”
21 Posted 03/05/2018 at 16:14:18
Well we still (just about) have a better history and prestige than them so he is definitely not good enough for us
Best of luck to all brave enough to organize and partake in the protest for Saturday night, I am hoping the fans will join in harmony to give Fat Sam, Kenwright and their like the proverbial middle finger.
And every other pundit/supporter of lesser Clubs who feel we should know our place. They are concerned solely with selling a product and can fuck right off.
22 Posted 03/05/2018 at 16:22:01
We need a new manager, investment in at least one or two top-quality players, new permanent revenues (or any forays into the top 4 will be fleeting) and an overhaul of training and backroom staff.
I can't see it all happening at least until we move into the new stadium. Whenever that may be.
As Phil says, 7th-ish it is then.
23 Posted 03/05/2018 at 16:41:29
24 Posted 03/05/2018 at 17:14:22
But not in the media John, where they all think we are lucky to have him. What is wrong with wanting the "in your face" Everton Cambell remembers, never mind the school of science?
Why should we accept this shifty arrogant git who got sacked by England after a matter of days for ethics which are more than questionable and who uses tactics out of the dark ages.
25 Posted 03/05/2018 at 17:21:35
I've been demanding that for 30 years and it's never even remotely looked like happening. No harm in demanding though, that's the easy part.
26 Posted 03/05/2018 at 17:44:17
Whilst the media are happy to defend him, Campbell has just seized on the fans ill feeling thats been there for months, its now at a tipping point, hence my disdain for him jumping on board. Savvy? Yes, very much so but just a personal PR move IMO.
Much like the lords and dukes who waited to see which way the war was going until they declared their Colours.
Just a fair weather type is our SuperKev.
27 Posted 03/05/2018 at 17:47:14
28 Posted 03/05/2018 at 18:11:49
They buy the club and if they're crap we're stuck with them, that's the difference between success and failure. We've been badly run since Phil Carter was chairman.
29 Posted 03/05/2018 at 18:19:33
Who else would have recommended this?
30 Posted 03/05/2018 at 18:40:12
31 Posted 03/05/2018 at 18:49:18
32 Posted 03/05/2018 at 19:09:33
At the moment we have outsourced almost all of our functions and lack enough marketing, media and communications staff to do the sort of job Liverpool, the Manchester clubs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham demand. The club also does not offer the staff salaries available at those clubs.
One of the things that Denise Barret-Baxendale has shown in her work with Everton in the Community is an ability to organise that highlights what seems to be lacking in the rest of the club structure.
Hopefully Moshiri will soon complete the restructure, recruit the right number of high quality staff and this will boost turnover, raise the profile of the club and raise expectations.
33 Posted 04/05/2018 at 05:36:20
I think a few of us have short memories when it comes to Moshiri. He came in a got rid of that fraud Martinez, which was 100 percent the right thing to do, then he appoints Koeman and Walsh, which at the time every fan to a man was made up with.
He then gives Koeman and Walsh a couple of hundred million(including players wages) and they proceed to waste it on absolute dross. They never addressed the issue every man and his dog could see which was a striker with a track record, pace and quality in wide areas, and quality cover across the back 4. Instead they collected number ‘10s with no pace and further unbalanced what was an unbalanced squad in the 1st place.
Then we give it to Unsie after probably not pulling the trigger early enough on Koeman, and he proceeded to make us look like the dog and duck for a few games; the highlight for me was an away thumping at prolific Southampton.
At this point we quite rightly in my opinion had to find a stopgap manager who could steady us and try and drag us out of the shite that Koeman and Walsh left us in. Allardyce was a no-brainer in this regard, and hes done exactly the job he was tasked to do. The football is shite, and hes a bit of nobhead but did we really expect anymore given what we all know about him?
The real baddie in all this Koeman. That thumb headed idiot has left us with a bloated squad of players who are all on megabucks and will be very hard to move on. In my opinion he goes down as the worst manager I have seen at Goodison, and I include mike walker in that. The only decent bit of business he did was bring in Pickford and possibly Siggurdson.As for the rest- Keane, Williams, Martina, Klaasen, Sandro, Bolasie, Klasic, Schneiderlin, Rooney etc, they are all not the right players and probably were never going to be.
As far as the future goes, I would like to see Allardyce move on, but who comes in I have no clue. There is nobody on the horizon that I think would be a good fit. The Fonsecas and Silvas of this world are as bigger gamble as unsie was for me, so maybe it means we have to sit tight and wait. Personally (again a huge risk) I like Arteta. Was a brilliant player for and by all accounts is developing into a great coach too.
But please lets not slag off our owner. He put his faith in Koeman who looked like he would be the man, gave him hundreds of millions and backed him to the hilt. Now hes trying to pick up the pieces..
34 Posted 04/05/2018 at 06:35:11
From the very beginning I and a small minority were speaking out against Koeman's appointment, based on his appalling man-management record at three of his previous 4 clubs which had seen him sacked from two of them, and leaving the other 'by mutual consent.' All the warning signs were there if Moshiri had bothered to carry out full due diligence prior to his appointment, but he was I think, blinded by Koeman's playing record rather than his record as a manager.
As for Walsh, once again, not all of us wanted him, and certainly weren't convinced by the need for a DOF, and still aren't. Please don't put us all into the same camp when it came to those appointments because it simply wasn't as unanimous as you think, in terms of our acceptance of the pair.
35 Posted 04/05/2018 at 07:26:05
36 Posted 04/05/2018 at 16:35:03
In general I hate generalisations.
37 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:30:20
38 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:30:21
39 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:43:07
40 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:44:46
41 Posted 10/05/2018 at 10:48:36
What complete shite!
42 Posted 10/05/2018 at 11:31:17
If you don't go to the game - - that's your choice and prerogative - - - I don't say you should feel ashamed for that - - its up to you - - but never ever criticise me (or others) for going to the game or ask me to be ashamed.
43 Posted 10/05/2018 at 11:51:34
Hear hear, mate.
44 Posted 10/05/2018 at 12:01:50
I have never missed so many games in one season since serving in the army in the late fifties, and I go to matches because Everton are playing and I'm an Evertonian.
Having attended matches at Goodison since 1948 and going to a fair share of away games, I have been disappointed, [many times] but never ashamed of being an Evertonian, and if I can regain my fitness I shall be in the Park End in August.
The expression 'Hope springs eternal' may mean nothing to you, but it's what keeps loyal supporters attending games, and 'Once a Blue, always a blue' applies to thousands of 'Loyal Evertonians'.
45 Posted 10/05/2018 at 12:08:43
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