Rooney nearing DC United switch

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Updated Wayne Rooney's proposed move to Major League Soccer is edging closer, although sources in the US say it might not be concluded as soon as a Sky Sports report suggests.

The 32-year-old has been the subject of interest from the MLS club for the past year and they stepped up their efforts to lure him across The Pond towards the end of the season just gone.

According to Sky's sources, Rooney is to agree to a £3.8m-a-year package that would see him make the switch, with no transfer fee involved but DC agreeing to paying a significant portion of the wages due for the remaining year of his Everton contract, and that it could be wrapped up by Monday.

The agreement also leaves the door open for Rooney to return to the Blues as a coach afterwards, with the assumption being that he would use some of his time in the United States to earn his coaching badges.

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It was the Liverpool Echo's understanding that Rooney was due to sit down with new Everton manager, Marco Silva, and Director of Football, Marco Brands to discuss how much he could expect to be involved in the Toffees' team next season but, if Sky's information is correct, that now seems unlikely.

The Washington Post also claim that negotiations have advanced but don't believe a deal will be done in the next few days. They cite the need for DC to hammer out terms with Everton over the final year of his contract at Goodison Park.

The former Manchester United and England star is said to be hurt by a willingness on the part of the Blues' hierarchy to allow him to leave this summer rather than provide him assurances of regular game time in 2018-19.

After an expensive but unproductive transfer spree last year, Everton's major shareholder, Farhad Moshiri, is believed to be looking for more efficient use of the club's money this time around and could see little value in retaining Rooney on a reported £180,000-a-week salary if he is to spend most of his time on the bench.

Rooney rejoined the Blues after a 13-year spell at Manchester United and finished his first season back at Goodison Park as the club's top scorer, despite not finding the net at all since the New Year.

Assuming everything is signed and agreed with regard to his contract with DC United, Rooney's transfer would not become effective until 10th July when the MLS transfer window opens, although he could begin training with his new team at any time before that.

He would be able to apply for a work visa to play in the US in the interim while also finding a house in the Washington DC area. He could then make his debut on 15th July when DC take on Vancouver Whitecaps.

 

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Victor Yu
1 Posted 01/06/2018 at 07:33:20
I thought we were going to get $12M for him. Now it has become a free transfer.
Steve Ferns
2 Posted 01/06/2018 at 07:41:02
“Rooney is to agree to a £3.8m-a-year package that would see him make the switch with no transfer fee involved but DC agreeing to paying a significant portion of the wages due for the remaining year of his Everton contract”

In other words, we get no fee and have to pay some of his wages for the next 12 months.

Is this the best deal for us? Why should Rooney expect us to pay him for another year? Once a blue always a blue, eh Wayne? But you’ll still come back to be a coach? That’s nice of you, we’re really grateful.

Paul Birmingham
3 Posted 01/06/2018 at 07:54:21
Lessons to be learned by the board. It looks on face value, that EFC has no benefit from this potential transfer.

Hopefully under Marcel Brands, the club will become more astute and commercial, in business, including the Bramley-Moore Dock project.

I anticipate plenty of transfer rumours now, incoming transfers. Let's see what happens the next week.

Liam Reilly
4 Posted 01/06/2018 at 07:57:10
What's this: more sentimental nonsense?

No transfer fee AND supplementing his wages is utter madness; I'd say there's a number of bottom half Premier League clubs who would pay significantly for his services.

The more things change, the more stay the same.

Victor Yu
5 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:06:52
If we are paying part of his salary with no transfer fee, then I would rather have him coming off the bench for 20 minutes every game.
Ralph Basnett
6 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:07:00
His salary would be £3.8 mill per year?

No transfer fee but DC are paying a significant part of his wages?

£3.8 mill divided by 52 is basically £75k which is equal to half of his salary?

DC are not paying a significant part of his wages – we are both paying half!!!!!!!!

Yet another transfer coup by Everton - is it no wonder clubs overcharge for our targets, under offer for their targets and basically take the piss!!!!!

Hopefully, Kenwright goes and Brands et al get to grips with our transfer fiascos sooner rather than later.

Brian Ronson
7 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:19:45
I was hopeful when I heard that Wayne was going to MLS, it was because he had enough insight to realise that he is not quick enough to play in the Premier League anymore. (Man Utd realised it which is why they were happy to offload him.) But no, it's because Wayne is "hurt" that he won't be guaranteed first team football!

Not only is he delusional, the fact is it was a mistake bringing him back in the first place and so the deal is a case of damage limitation. When a player has a Contract, any move has to be based upon a willingness of the player to move.

As to him being guaranteed a coaching role? Surely that is up to Marco Silva to assess whether he wants him in that role? Wayne isn't an Everton "legend". He was perfectly entitled to leave Everton for Man Utd when he did, but the Club owes him nothing.

Lenny Kingman
8 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:36:06
He won't last 5 minutes over there. Certainly won't see out the proposed contract length whatever that is. I see an Ian Rush situation were he simply could not adapt to the new environment far from home.

How ever long he lasts he can't lose because he will just boomerang back here and sit alongside his alter ego, Big Dunc, in the pitch-side stand.

Jamie Evans
9 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:39:43
Why should any player be 'assured' of game time.

To me, it's very simple. If you perform well, then you are selected. If you don't, then you are not.

With the mileage on his clock, surely he must know that it's horses for courses throughout a season.

Martin Nicholls
10 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:46:37
I agree with most of the comments above but hope that it is Man Utd and not us who are left to top up his wages from DC United. My understanding was that they agreed to pay part of his wages over the two-year deal with us – hopefully any such commitment is transferable!

As to returning as a coach, what qualities has he exhibited to even consider that as an option? He left us once to protect his own interests and looks like he's looking to do so again. "Once a Blue" to become "Twice a Blue"? If so, hopefully it'll not become "Three times a Blue"! Let's not paraphrase the Lionel Ritchie song!

Geoffrey Williams
11 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:52:32
If the salary details are correct, it would suggest the club are very keen to get rid of him.
Mark Dunford
12 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:55:22
Just hope the reported detail of an apparent on-going commitment for Everton is wrong. It is quite probably the right move for all concerned. He tired badly towards the end of last season though his goals were valuable in the first half. Penalty at Liverpool and goal of the season against West Ham were obvious highlights
Jim Bennings
13 Posted 01/06/2018 at 08:57:09
All leaves me feeling a bit sour this Rooney move to a non-entity league, in which DC United are a terrible side may it just be added!

I could understand even if he wanted to join a leading passionate South American club like Boca Juniors or River Plate for example but DC United!!

I am quite shocked by Rooney wanting to walk away from us again so quickly. I thought this was the 2-year spell, the homecoming for putting the past to rest and rebuilding bridges and he wanted to “achieve something “ with his boyhood club?

It would be interesting to see if we ever find out his motives for leaving. He's only 32 so does he genuinely feel he can't contribute to even 20-25 games next season?

He doesn't need the money, let's be brutally honest, and he could have seen out next season with his beloved Blues guiding younger players and being the leading example and adding a touch of class to cameo performances.

Leaves a bitter taste – especially knowing this deal has nothing at all beneficial to Everton Football Club.

Kenny Smith
14 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:04:01
None of us know the true details of any transfer. He came as a makeweight in the Lukaku deal on massive money yet Man Utd were reported of still be paying a significant part of his wages.

There's too much money in the game now so it's easy to hide who is being paid what by whom and the true value of players. Good luck to the lad but I for one want to return to the days of Alan Harper arriving on a match day in a Ford Orion sponsored by Ian Skelly. Proper footy.

John Wells
15 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:09:54
It's been pretty shit, Wayne, to be honest, and it's sad that you, as a once brilliant player, are whinging about wanting guaranteed playing time... fuck that! You, like everyone, need to earn your minutes, set an example.

Just go!

Jim Bennings
16 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:09:56
There's also no getting away, whatever way you look at it: for the second summer running, we are selling off our top scorer!

Might be an odd way of looking at it but Rooney's modest total of 10 still outdoes anything the others could muster.

You may argue Tosun would be a 10-12 goal striker if he'd been signed last August and had the full season behind him – but that's hypothetical.

Steve Ferns
17 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:14:49
Kenny, I forgot all about those sponsored cars! That takes me back to the 80s and seeing players, and my mates saying they’re sure it’s him cos it says his name on the car!
John Wells
18 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:14:57
Good point Jim (16) but I think Tosun will have a lot better service from the word go next season, as would Rooney.

I acknowledge my problem is that he wants guaranteed minutes, no way. We pretty much all have played some type of sport at sometime, how did we make the team? By working our socks off!

I want another striker to play with Tosun but not Rooney, that attitude should be out of this club. Silva apparently has a reputation for rewarding hard work on the training ground which I love to hear; young lads working their socks off knowing they will get a chance.

Steve Ferns
19 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:16:02
Yes, John. Two 40-minute training sessions at full throttle. He also has a tendency to give the players no time off! He'll have them in everyday when he needs to. The players won't know what hit them.
John Wells
20 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:30:26
Steve, that is music to my ears! It is soooo badly needed too.

Great posts on Silva, by the way.

Adam Scott
21 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:42:29
This is damage limitation really. Always thought this supposed transfer fee was lost in translation. The fact we will l at him go and retain some liabilities says it all.

It wasn't a good piece of business. We all knew it at the time. Everton went for it as a diversionary tactic with losing Lukaku.

I don't think Rooney has the game or physical explosiveness to be an impact sub. We may just have to get what we can on this one I

For me, hopefully Bolasie and Williams follow him out of the club. All three take big money and are not of the ability for this club. I would take any semi-reasonable offer for any of them. Below this are a raft of players – Keane, Schneidrlin, Klaassen, Funes Mori – who I would also sell for the right money.

James Flynn
22 Posted 01/06/2018 at 09:59:36
I'd be curious to see what his endorsement deal is with DC Utd or the league itself, separate from his wages. They do that over here.

As far as eating some of his wages, he wouldn't be the only one Moshiri might have to do that with, if we're to cut down the roster.

I'm definitely in the group saying we have to get in a centre-back and a left-back. Beyond that, I wonder if Silva's first season remit is to "make do" with what he has while he and Brands sort out our current mess of a roster.

Jer Kiernan
23 Posted 01/06/2018 at 10:05:25
Please be gone.

Such a backward-looking transfer, hopefully the last dying embers of a sentimentallity that is both counter-productive and nausiating, After Kenwright goes in August, this will be the last of any such deals, I hope.

I don't have a lot of good things to say in Koeman's defence but I feel he was overuled by our theatrical leader on this one; Sigurdsson was his man.

This was Kenwright and a kid who had sold out to big money trying to grasp a hold of something that means more than money, but time and tide wait for no man, and nor should our Club; onwards and upwards with the new Manager & DoF please

The most shocking thing for me is the fact that he was one of our better players this season... says it all.

Mark Tanton
24 Posted 01/06/2018 at 10:24:30
Well what a waste of time and money that was. I had my reservations, but it was exciting seeing him in blue again. Should never have done it though, he offered very little. He wouldn’t have the required pace for Silva’s set up anyway.
Trevor Powell
25 Posted 01/06/2018 at 10:27:06
Hang-on, our leading scorer, how many goals in real play and not penalties? I really get fed up with leading scores tables not including penalties. He scored three from the spot and missed others until normal service was resumed with Leighton Baines. So, it was really a seven-goal Premier League haul for this season.

Hardly inspiring and worth the money he has been paid for 2282 minutes of play ie one real goal per 326 minutes from England's greatest striker! Compare to Tosun @ 5 ie a real goal per 198 mins, Oumar Niasse @ 8 per 135 mins per goal.

Ian Burns
26 Posted 01/06/2018 at 10:32:42
Steve (#2) – not like you to show your sarcastic side! Well said – and whilst I am writing thanks for the regular insights on Silva's coaching and putting his achievements into perspective. You have eloquently put his case forward over the recent period and it has been the "go to posts" – well done.

As to Rooney, why do we need to keep a coaching role open for him? I think it's time we moved on.

Brian Williams
27 Posted 01/06/2018 at 10:40:24
I prefer to look on the positive side of this. (Look up 'positive' some of you.)

It appears that he/the club realize he can't quite cut it any more in the Premier League so he's going. I get the feeling the message may have been conveyed to him before Silva arrived but after Allardyce was fired, if you know what I mean.

Rooney's leaving could be construed as the beginning of the end of sentimentality signings and a more professional approach (if you wanted to see the positives).

Oh, and we won't be paying £75k a week to him for the next year, IMO ;-)

Tony Everan
28 Posted 01/06/2018 at 11:13:55
Wayne will want his full contracted wages whatever. How will the £8M pa be split?

Man Utd £2M; Everton £2M; DC Utd £4M? We may never know.

I can see his game time being drastically reduced next season. So, if he wants to play football, moving would be best for him.

Steve Ferns
29 Posted 01/06/2018 at 12:28:43
Thanks Ian. It seems to me that limited footballers, particularly central defenders make the best managers. They need to read the game in order to supplement their technical deficiencies. Central defenders learn from a young age to read the game in order to work out when to attack the ball and when to drop off. Players like Rooney tend to make bad managers / coaches. Just look at the great Diego Maradona. They have natural technical ability. They have great vision. This is not something that can be taught and they don't understand that others fail to see what they see or how to get their vision across to the players. The players who have to think their way through games are the ones who can then make the step up to manager. I think there's also something to be said for hunger, particularly if the manager has unfulfilled ambitions. of course there's always exceptions to the rule, such as Zinadine Zidane.

James Flynn, Marco Silva belongs to that breed of coach that believes they can develop players without dipping into what (the new Chelsea manager?) Maurizio Sarri calls "the refuge of the weak", the transfer market. When you buy a player you're trying to get a player who is a little bit faster, or a little bit more technically gifted than what you have. I believe Silva will be concerned at Baines' injury record, diminishing pace and stamina, and so a left back is going to be necessary. They will have concerns over the pace in the centre of the defence, as they will want to play a high line, otherwise you cannot play a pressing game. Then there is the critical area of the "spring". Silva's sides counter attack at rapid speed. In order to effect this, we need someone to be on the ball in the middle of the pitch, immediately when we win the ball, and this player needs the ability to hit accurate 40, 50, 60 yard passes. Schneiderlin could do this, but has shown few examples of it recently. Where Schniederlin falls down though, even on form, is he takes too many touches in doing so. Even Allardyce, who similarly liked to get the ball forwards quickly, was unable to get the midfield to do so. That's why I think Silva will turn to someone he knows well and knows he can rely on, William Carvalho. The other area that Silva will give Schneiderlin a big X, other than his attitude, is his lack of mobility. Silva would want Schneiderlin to be moving into attack.

I'm sure the club want a world class striker. I fail to see anyone the club can easily bring in, without spending £75m+, and would want to come. So I think it's likely we persevere with Tosun, Calvert-Lewin and Niasse, who each offer a different option to Silva.

John Kavanagh
30 Posted 01/06/2018 at 12:59:39
Never supported his return. It all smacked of going back to the retirement home days of Gazza and Ginola. The first thing Moyes quite rightly got a grip of, so good on Brands and Silva for already making it clear there's no guaranteed playing time, no matter who you are. Same goes for Schneiderlin, Bolasie and Williams.

How would we use him as a coach? Parade him in front of all the youngsters, point to him and say "This is what you'd look like by 30 if you don't look after yourself". Scare tactics can often work on young impressionable minds, but some of the mums and dads might complain we are frightening their kids.

Jamie Crowley
31 Posted 01/06/2018 at 13:00:34
Victor at 5:

If we are paying part of his salary with no transfer fee, then I would rather have him coming off the bench for 20 minutes every game.

100% spot on.

Phil Sammon
32 Posted 01/06/2018 at 13:27:10
Steve (#29),

If we start the season with Tosun, Calvert-Lewin and Niasse I can't see us getting any higher than the year just gone. I like all 3 of them... but would they get a sniff at any other decent club?

Maybe Tosun will lift in his second season.

Dave Lynch
33 Posted 01/06/2018 at 13:42:43
All as Rooney has ever done is cost us money for no return.

We sold him on the cheap, missed his best years and brought him back finished on high wages.

He has been bang average or worse since his return and we are still paying him big money.

I would argue he's been nothing but a leech on the club.

John G Davies
34 Posted 01/06/2018 at 14:01:16
John (#30),

Or we could use him as inspiration to the youngsters. Something along the lines of:

"If you work hard and apply yourself, you could have a career like Rooney. You could go on to break the England records, you could go on to break the records at a world-famous club. In fact, if you achieve 50% of what Rooney has, you will be remembered as a top player"

Guido Blumberg
35 Posted 01/06/2018 at 14:26:33
Everyone criticizes Wayne Rooney but who made more goals than him in this season? Who can claim that Cenk Tosun or Oumar Niasse will score more goals than Wayne in the next season? Who can say that a striker will arrive and score more goals in the next season?

I think Wayne Rooney deserves a little more respect even though his level was not what we expected.

Drew Shortis
36 Posted 01/06/2018 at 15:13:43
We can't afford to be sentimental about this. The new manager needs to be able to build a team to fit his plan. If Rooney fits his system then great, I think he can still do a job for us, but if he's not going to have a regular place in the first eleven then better to free up the wages for someone who will.

Having a frustrated Rooney around the team will not be good for him or for the manager. Given the choice between Wayne & Sigurdsson in the Number 10 position, I'd pick Siggy as he creates more.

It's a shame how things worked out, but we have to look to the future now. The wages we'll save could pay for one or two younger & fitter players.

Andrew Keatley
37 Posted 01/06/2018 at 15:27:02
The Rooney return smacked of desperation all round.

Desperation for Rooney to find a club at which he might actually play some football, having fallen sufficiently far down the Man Utd pecking order that he was now surplus to requirements.

Desperation for Man Utd to move Rooney on. I believe that Man Utd even agreed to pay a significant portion of his wages, such was their desire to get him out of the door.

Desperation for Everton to make a major transfer splash, especially with Lukaku leaving and our inability to attract a major name at the top of his game; so we settled for one of the biggest names in football who was at best now five years past his prime, and at worst a complete liability.

Desperation for Kenwright to bring Rooney back – in the hope that it might undo some of the scorn fans had with him for allowing the prize jewel of English football to fly the nest at 18 years old.

When it was confirmed that Rooney was returning my head said that it was going to be a disaster, while my heart hope that he has something left in the tank. He's been on fumes for years now. At 18 he looked like he was going to be the brightest star in the football galaxy; by 28 he was a supernova.

Steve Ferns
38 Posted 01/06/2018 at 15:38:23
Phil, this is where the new head coach earns his money and coaches the team into a better unit. Think back to last season, how many crosses were sent in for Calvert-Lewin to attack? The lad is decent in the air and he scored 3 headers, which was something like 1/3 of his total goals. He wasn't missing headers, he just simply did not get the service. If we coach the team to play to strengths, then we can get Niasse in behind to show his pace, Calvert-Lewin to show his aerial ability, and Tosun to show his finishing. Suddenly there's goals and they look much better players.

Too much last season was down to individuals, ie, Rooney, Sigurdsson, Niasse, Walcott. There wasn't many good team goals, just lots of individual ones.

Roger Helm
39 Posted 01/06/2018 at 15:43:06
Jamie and Victor – well yes, but if we have him coming off the bench for 20 minutes each game, we will have to pay him 100% of his salary, won't we? I actually don't think that is a bad idea; he is one of our few players who knows where the goal is, so bring him on to goal-hang for the last 20 mins, if we need a goal.
Michael Kenrick
40 Posted 01/06/2018 at 15:44:14
Sorry, Trevor (#25) but all goal stats the world over include penalties without distinction. That's not going to stop you calling it different, I know, but a goal is a goal...
Steve Ferns
41 Posted 01/06/2018 at 15:46:57
Hey Michael, what's your thoughts on the new regime? Any chance of an article from yourself?
Paul Thompson
42 Posted 01/06/2018 at 16:09:25
When this was first mooted, there was delight that we were getting a £10m transfer fee. As I said at the time, this is smoke and mirrors. It was always about the wages.

Man Utd paid a sizeable chunk of his wages last season – otherwise, we couldn't have afforded Wayne. The £10m was disguised wage transfer.

Now it sounds as if his wages will be divided between the three clubs. On the positive side, this will free up money, not lose it for us.

As for the playing side, I enjoyed having Wayne back, at least for the first half of the season. Change of regime at Goodison means best for all concerned if he moves on. Why don't we bury any residual hatchets and wish him the best?

Gavin Johnson
43 Posted 01/06/2018 at 16:16:11
Decision makers at the club must really feel Rooney is on the decline if they're allowing him to leave on a free and pay a third of his wages, with Man United and DC United paying the rest.

I don't mind giving him a free transfer but we shouldn't be paying him to leave.

I think I'd keep him for the remaining 12 months and have him as an impact sub as an attacking option. He looked okay in the first half of the season. The midfield experiment looked a masterstroke against West Ham but he just looked old an past it against the better sides.

That all said, club hierarchy might have been considered this and it might be Rooney who's pushing this move because he knows he won't be starting games next season. In which case, he shouldn't be milking us for wages once he leaves.

Steve Ferns
44 Posted 01/06/2018 at 16:22:39
Gavin, I think it was clear to many that Rooney was unable to run a game by the end of the season. Instead he had moments and sadly those moments were less and less frequent. His passing was erratic. I would like to think he was just carrying a knock, or it was down to Allardyce's tactics. However, when you consider what Silva will be trying to do, I just don't think there is room for Rooney.

Had he been consistent with his passing, had he been able to stroll around the pitch like Pirlo and effect the game, regardless of his lack of pace, then I think we'd take a chance on him.

Instead, he can't play up top as he can't press, and the striker initiates the pressing. He can't play wide due to a lack of pace. He can't play deep as he lacks the energy to go box to box for even 60 minutes. Which means he can only fit in as a number 10, and sorry Wayne, but that's Gylfi's job now. So perhaps he can sit on the bench and be backup, but clearly he doesn't wish to do that, and it makes no sense to pay someone £150k a week to sit on the bench.

Gavin Johnson
45 Posted 01/06/2018 at 16:32:03
Totally agree with every point you make, Steve, but we'll still be paying him £75,000 a week to play for DC United. Neither scenario is great for us. Out of the two I think I'd keep him for another 12 months but it would be purely as a sub and playing in cup games, Rooney still has the ability to affect games.

Let's be honest, though. Would Rooney accept that arrangement? Probably not. That's his problem. It shouldn't be ours having to subsidise him getting first-team football elsewhere.

Paul Kossoff
46 Posted 01/06/2018 at 16:32:40
I would have liked him to stay as a player-coach and eventually manager, he's a Blue so would want to succeed, but why does he want us to pay him still? Surely he doesn't need the cash. I'm surprised we agreed to that to be honest. Unless he was told he wasn't wanted and is a bit peeved.

Once a Blue, Wayne... remember that!

Pete Clarke
47 Posted 01/06/2018 at 17:51:49
He will take over David Beckham's role in the sale of American male beauty cosmetics... NOT!!!

Obviously hasn't looked after himself (or agent) so looking to boost the financial coffers. Big mistake bringing him back.

Michael Lynch
48 Posted 01/06/2018 at 17:59:33
Astonishingly incompetent piece of business by our club.

If he really thinks we're going to give him a coaching job after a year of pissing about in the States on Everton's dime, he's either a twat or the board are twats. Probably the latter.

He must really love the club to keep taking its money for fuck all.

Colin Glassar
49 Posted 01/06/2018 at 18:05:30
I think we’ve been disloyal and disrespectful to him. It wasn’t his fault he was sold a false dream. He wanted to come back and we’ve behaved like a bunch of amateur pricks.
Jay Harris
50 Posted 01/06/2018 at 18:08:35
Time to close the door on this ridiculous episode orchestrated no doubt by Kenwright.

Could you ever see the RS bringing Gerrard back on £180k a week and the effect that has on other players? IMO that was half of the dressing room issue.

As for coaching, you lead by example — smoking, drinking to excess and getting involved with ladies of the night is not the way to get the youngsters to behave professionally.

Bye, Wayne... you left your best in Manchester and brought the baggage back to the Blues.

Keith Monaghan
51 Posted 01/06/2018 at 19:09:57
Jay @ 50 – absolutely spot on – let's get rid quick & never take him back.

Colin @ 49 – the least professional of all was Rooney himself – his behaviour has stunk for years & he's not what we need round our young players.

David Booth
52 Posted 01/06/2018 at 19:17:26
Why on earth would we want him back as a coach?

What promising signs has he shown that he would make one, or that he is sufficiently intelligent, intuitive and innovative enough to be one?

Most of those who now realise what a folly it was to bring him back in the first place 'because he is a blue' have come to their senses. What a predictably nonsensical, costly and embarrassing decision.

But it still amazes me how many times some of you have to be bitten to finally become shy.

Hurry up and naff off to DC, or wherever else you can still massage your ego by being a big fish in a small pond Rooney. And good riddance.

You've proven to be as true a blue as the likes of Fowler and McNanaman.

Just go, for Christ's sake – and don't come back!

Andy Crooks
53 Posted 01/06/2018 at 19:44:57
Michael, I echo the view of Steve Ferns @ 41. You and Lyndon provide a breadth of opinion. I have no doubt that you have influence and your turning against Allardyce was a game changer.

I suspect that you will disagree with that but had you and Lyndon argued that Allardyce see out his contract or, in fact, been neutral, you would or could have been a rallying point for those who feared change.

The first piece I ever wrote on this site, many years ago, was titled "Does ToffeeWeb matter"? I suggest it does. Anyway, I'd like to hear from you and, also Paul Trail and hopefully Ken Buckley on this.

We get comprehensive and diverse match reports, so why not on this important issue?

Kieran Kinsella
54 Posted 01/06/2018 at 20:18:15
Problem with super sub Rooney is that he earns £150k a week. So, if we try and sign anyone decent, their agent will say "You pay your sub £150k a week, so my client wants £200k.”
Jerome Shields
55 Posted 01/06/2018 at 22:29:42
Rooney, as I predicted, is haunting the place.

He should have never been bought in the first place. He was finished at Man Utd. His agent couldn't believe his luck when the sentimental Everton tosh became a reality. A 2-year contract and Everton's highest paid player.

Rooney was one of the central malaises of the last season and quite frankly behaved badly. Not fit to play in the Premier League and not part of next season plannings. We don't need a cart horse in the midfield.

The transfer to America was part of the plan at the end of next season, but it's obvious his unprofessional approach to fitness means he needs to get to America this season, while the last vestiges of value as a professional footballer are evident, to get him to 35.

These are the reasons that the DC transfer is as it is, and Rooney is playing the press to try to put pressure on Everton. He has only his name to offer now.

Get rid to Buzzard Point at a least cost as possible. It was one big mistake in the first place.

Peter Thistle
56 Posted 01/06/2018 at 22:35:58
It sounds like terrible business but, as long as he's gone, it's worth it. Over paid and beyond past it.
Phil Sammon
57 Posted 02/06/2018 at 00:25:43
I don’t dislike Rooney, but I’d be tempted to play hard ball. Tell Wayne he’s not in our plans and that he’s free to leave. If he wants to stay then ban him from Finch Farm.

He’s had a year at the club and it’s not worked out. No need for him to fleece the club he ‘loves’. If he wants to play that game then he can spend his final year in obscurity.

Ian Bennett
58 Posted 02/06/2018 at 08:33:02
What a shit deal.

I'd be keeping him and tell him he's a bench player. If he wants to play, he can leave on a free - but we won't cover the wages.

I don't see the point in paying £75k a week for a player not at the club. We have enough squad that aren't in the starting XI, so I'd be getting rid of those first – Williams, Besic, Mirallas, Klaassen, Garbutt. And keep Rooney as an impact player who can play two or three positions. He might still win a number of points if used sparingly.

Paul Ellam
59 Posted 02/06/2018 at 09:42:56
So, this deal seems like we will be paying towards his wages and get nothing in return. I'd rather keep him here and use him for us, not some insignificant American team.

He wants certain guarantees though appearance wise which we correctly cannot give him. Caught between a rock and a hard place really – the Everton way!

Ash Moore
60 Posted 02/06/2018 at 19:33:19
Strange one. I wondered in an earlier thread how DC United could afford his wages. Ho hum.

It's a strange one. Moshiri must dislike Wayne, big time. Why else would he literally pay to get him off the books? I don't buy the "he blows the wage structure" argument either. What players demand in wages is more about their market value and the size of the club they play for, not Wayne Rooney.

What a waste for Everton, he was one of the best players in the world for a long time. Just not when we owned his registration.

Peter Mills
61 Posted 03/06/2018 at 22:09:43
I would like Everton to move Wayne on at the least cost to us.
Dennis Stevens
62 Posted 04/06/2018 at 15:23:12
According to the beeb:

New Everton manager Marco Silva says the "door is open" for Wayne Rooney to stay, despite his talks with DC United.

Rooney, 32, has spoken with the Major League Soccer side, but has a year left on his Everton deal.

In his first news conference as Everton boss, Silva said he had a small list of 'big name' transfer targets but had not ruled out Rooney staying on.

"Rooney is a club legend and we need to understand everything," said Silva. "The door is open every time for him."

Dave Abrahams
63 Posted 04/06/2018 at 15:47:34
Marco, has Kenwright been down your ear already?

Start has you mean to go on, Marco, and give him a wide berth.


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