Silva: I need stability as much as Everton do

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Marco Silva has responded to questions over his commitment by insisting that he came to Everton with stability and longevity in mind.

The Portuguese faced the television, radio and press media for the first time since being confirmed as the Blues' new manager alongside Director of Football, Marcel Brands, at Finch Farm today where the pair spelled out their immediate priorities.

Silva deflected questions over the circumstances of his eventual departure from Watford and joked about trying to sign Hornets forward Richarlison for his new team but he wanted to make it clear that he is prepared to stay at Goodison Park beyond the three years covered by his current contract in order to make what he describes as a “big project” a success.

Since leaving Estoril after three years in charge, the 40-year-old has not spent more than a season at any of the four clubs he subsequently managed, although there were, arguably, mitigating or understandable circumstances in each case.

He was sacked by Sporting in his home country after overseeing just two league defeats and guiding the Lions to triumph in the domestic cup, officially because he refused to wear an official club blazer in an earlier round of the latter competition.

Recent incidents at the Lisbon club and the allegations made against its controversial owner Bruno de Carvalho have put a new perspective on why Silva was fired, not least the suggestion that he had already lined up a replacement.

Silva spent the following season at Olympiakos, winning all but two games and running away with the league title by a margin of 30 points, but was dismissed during pre-season of the following summer because, as the owners put it, they saw a change in his behaviour. Silva was said to have been approached by Porto and had his head turned in much the same way as it appeared to be by Everton last autumn when he was still at Watford.

That apparent flightiness was put to him during today's presser and again during the breakout interview with the print media and on both occasions he stressed his desire and need to stay put for a few years.

“I joined not for one, two, three years but for something more,” he said in the televised portion of the press conference. “It's a big project, a big challenge for us as a technical staff as well.”

Asked if he would be looking to move at the first sign interest from elsewhere, he restated his case.

“The answer is no. I know what you want to ask. I understand. When you talk about people you are talking about our fans? Yeah? OK. The answer for them is clear — no.

“I am here, I enjoy now, I am here clear. Stability is something the club needs. I need it as well, for my career.”

 

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Minik Hansen
1 Posted 05/06/2018 at 01:35:29
At least it's his second job in the same league. With our history, there is something worth fighting for and possible to achieve once again with Moshiri (and Brands highly possible). This World Cup will demand our patience, at least there's lots of football to watch.
James Hill
2 Posted 05/06/2018 at 01:53:35
Hope this guy's the real deal. We have had too many false dawns.
Andy McNabb
3 Posted 05/06/2018 at 04:51:02
What seems now like a thousand years ago, I wrote on ToffeeWeb, urging caution regarding the appointment of Martinez.

My reaction to Moyes as manager – cautious optimism, as something really needed to change.

Martinez – why did we want someone who had just overseen relegation at his previous club?

Koeman – what was all the fuss about? He hadn't don't anything and had more clubs than Tiger Woods.

It is easy to be a nay-sayer and I have no desire to be right but I have a very similar feeling re Silva. For my concerns, see a mixture of the above.

Please may I be wrong.

Alan J Thompson
4 Posted 05/06/2018 at 05:32:04
I sincerely hope he is successful enough to raise the interest of other clubs.

Now... onto Day 2!

Brian Murray
5 Posted 05/06/2018 at 05:59:12
Andy, you may be right about our new coach but the difference this time (I hope) is that he has to run by Brands all or most of his calls so it might be a great mix. On his own he already has indicated to be a bit naive with his Rooney "club legend" rubbish. Plus we only need a few players. There is no way he or anyone can get a tune out of the one-paced losers we have at the moment, Lookman excepted.

On a slightly different note, why all the cloak and dagger over August 1st and Bill's hopeful step down? Make our summer complete after the Bale and Karius show and just make the announcement.
Jerome Shields
6 Posted 05/06/2018 at 08:20:05
Andy (#3) I have the same concerns. But I think the Board or someone has taken the precaution of a 3-year contract, lower fixed wages with incentive payments and the appointment of Brands in a role that is skewered towards day-to-day football management.

The fact that they have made the contract 3 years in my opinion is telling. Everton is a 5-year project, the first 3 years will be building a competitive side. It's only after 3years that they will move to the next level and be competitively consistent. At the moment, Silva was the only candidate for the job and at that level the only suitable candidate. In 3years, hopefully Everton are at the higher level and either Silva or a candidate at the higher level can take them forward.

The combination of Brands and Silva should attract the better players, which have been reluctant to buy into the Everton project under the last four Managers. This will be the first test. The other test of the internal sorting out of the club and squad will only become apparent as the team evolves over the next season.

I think that Moshiri has learnt a very costly lesson over this past two years. The caution taken reflects this. Mr Bill's influence is on the wane; he was always too much of a supporter, like the rest of us, he has also learnt that there are no quick solutions. Lyndon's "Patience is the virtue" now needed. Your caution is wise.

David Ellis
7 Posted 05/06/2018 at 08:48:47
Minik (#1) – his second job after his first job in this league... ie, his third job in the Premier League (in 18 months) (Hull, Watford & Everton).

Andy (#3) – I see a pattern here...maybe you are a consistent cautious optimist and your feelings have no bearing on the likelihood of success or failure of any managerial appointment?

For what its worth I was more optimistic about Moyes than I was about Martinez or Koeman. I was even more optimistic about Smith. So who the hell knows eh!

On Silva I am at about the same optimism level as I was about Moyes – actually its quite a similar punt – young manager who has done well at lesser clubs/leagues. If he stays 11 years then maybe that'll mean things have gone well.

Ash Moore
8 Posted 05/06/2018 at 10:23:56
One positive – you have to take your team on a good run to get tapped up! If he wins the league and then fucks us off for PSG or similar, well, at this stage, I've got to say, I'll take it.

All jokes aside, Silva has the reputation, rightly or wrongly, as a flake. Only he can change that.

Frank Wade
9 Posted 05/06/2018 at 12:51:31
I was neutral on this appointment, but was impressed by the press conference yesterday in how he and Brands outlined their approach. All sounded so sensible. I was hoping for Frank de Boer two years back, so understand my limitations in assessing managers.

I am happy we are going with Silva as he had the Steve Ferns stamp of approval and Steve knows his stuff.

Look at Mourinho's post title winning part season at Chelsea and the same for Ranieri at Leicester as examples on how tight the margins are between success and abject failure. Important issue is how the players respond to the new regime.

Jamie Crowley
10 Posted 05/06/2018 at 13:15:56
This man needs to stay put for his own career – he states as such and he knows it. If he can't show some degree of stability he will become less marketable.

I'm happy with Silva's appointment. I desperately wanted Martinez at the time, and as far as I'm concerned Roberto's appointment worked out fine. I'm hoping Marco can give me a 70+ point season chasing down the top 4 watching some wonderful football the way Roberto did in his first season.

And for the broken record types who want to say, "he ruined Everton" and, "he couldn't defend" and, "exciting football? All we did was pass the thing to death" just save it and don't bother.

Marco's the man. I believe there's going to be a few seasons akin to Roberto's first season. Something about Silva gives me hope and excitement. I can't explain why, just a gut feeling.

The future is on the up.

Peter Gorman
11 Posted 05/06/2018 at 13:34:47
Seeing is believing, his track record suggests it doesn't take much to turn his head.

But for now I suppose he has the benefit of the doubt.

Steve Ferns
12 Posted 05/06/2018 at 13:42:35
Peter, he was at Estoril for 12 years – 9 as player and 3 as manager. He was fired from Sporting. He left Olympiacos for Porto and didn't get it. He left Hull for Watford, and he wanted to leave Watford for us.

Olympiacos have a lunatic in charge, he'd won the league by 30 points, there was no topping that season. Porto are the best run Portuguese club and you can't blame him for wanting that job.

Hull went down and he wanted to be in the Premier League. Watford was the Pozzos, and they broke promises and sold players without his consent (if rumours are believed).

Tim Locke
14 Posted 05/06/2018 at 14:48:25
I have confidence in brands. Hang onto him and we will be better off.

Silva I am less excited about, I am happy to give him time to build and show a difference. I want to see passion, I want to see a manager who knows how to manage, make changes, win games and play football. Next season if fine to get his feet under but he has to show a plan to bring on the some players I will be happier than having Sam there.

I think brands will make a call on progress in 2 years and if nothing will push to get someone in. World Cup and then bring on the start of the season.

Robert Leigh
15 Posted 05/06/2018 at 17:32:26
Delighted with this – wanted Marco in since November and to be paired with Brands (though I know little about our new Dutchman) looks a dream.

Also very pleased they're looking at our own players before deciding what they need. Too many clubs sign players for the sake of new faces, and though we undoubtedly need some, we have some good players returning from loans who need evaluating (Dowell, Besic, Lookman, Robinson, Sandro).

Look at Chelsea – they signed the left wingback from Roma for over £30M, when they have Kennedy returning from a loan at Newcastle; where he thrived starting week-in & week-out.

I'm not saying we have that level of talent out on loan, but why buy a Kluivert or Lozano if Lookman and Sandro fit the bill?

Peter Gorman
16 Posted 05/06/2018 at 18:20:45
Steve, you've been a strong advocate for Silva and I've appreciated your detailed arguments but his 9 years as a player at Estoril hardly counts; make it 3 years as manager.

The reason giving for him leaving Sporting makes no sense, he quit Olympiacos for 'personal reasons' when the going was good, his spell at Hull was brief as could be and Watford allege he lost interest (or some such guff). All in all, there are grounds for suspecting he may not be here for the long haul.

I hope I am wrong as you've done a good job of arguing he should be.

Gerry Quinn
17 Posted 05/06/2018 at 18:29:50
Remember this tosser?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5808947/Aston-Villa-suspend-CEO-Keith-Wyness-missed-tax-payment-HMRC.html

Steve Ferns
18 Posted 05/06/2018 at 18:34:33
Peter, Silva was sacked by Sporting for reasons that make no sense. There was a 400 point document given by their lunatic owner. If you don’t know why he’s a lunatic then google him and see all the stuff he’s been up recently.

Silva was outspoken at Sporting. He is not one to toe the party line. He will be honest and say what the club needs and what it needs to do. The fans respected him for that and some thought he was a voice for them.

The owner wanted the guy from Benfica, Jorge Jesus. You’ll recognise him, he’s the Portuguese Barry Manilow lookalike who’s been around for what seems like forever. He won the league with Benfica and joined Sporting within hours of Silva being sacked. Despite being brought in to bring glory, he’s still to win the league or cup, with only a league cup (which doesn’t give the winner European qualification) to show for his efforts.

The personal reasons given for leaving Olympiacos were reported to be him wanting the Porto job, but the current Wolves Manager got the job and won the league.

And yes, 9 years at the club as a player doesn’t show loyalty as a manager, but it does hint at a bond to Estoril that saw him stay for three years, even when he had the chance to leave earlier.

I would hope he can develop a bond here that would keep him here if bigger fish start to circle.

John Keating
19 Posted 05/06/2018 at 18:41:34
Jerome (#6),

I mentioned in another thread about Silva's 3 year deal which I find too long. We have been severely bitten with our last 3 managers regarding contract length and the cost to the Club to pay them off.

I would suggest we have employed a second tier manager. If top guys like Tuchel and Emery can be offered and accept 2-year deals, then we should be following suit, possibly with one-year options.

If, as suggested, Silva wanted the Everton job, then I'm sure he would have accepted similar deals to other top managers.

Emery also has a rebuilding job at Arsenal; he seems happy enough. Silva's track record doesn't show well for staying at clubs, though it is argued it's everyone else's fault but his. Regardless, in my opinion ,we should be more careful with these contracts.

David Barks
20 Posted 05/06/2018 at 18:45:45
John,

So three years is too long but two years would be just right? It's one year difference. Also, a two-year contract would mean they would have to renegotiate immediately following this season, assuming he does well, otherwise he'd be a lame duck.

John Keating
22 Posted 05/06/2018 at 18:57:47
David. Martinez had only been here a dog's watch and they bumped his contract to 5 years.

Steve Ferns reckons this Silva is so good we will see a transformation almost immediately. If that's the case after the first season roll it over to another 2 years and so on.

As I mentioned I would have thought, based on our past history, if top managers like Emery and Tuchel accept 2 years why not this guy.

It pisses me off that these guys can cock up and walk away with more than me and you will both earn in a lifetime. Let's see how good he is and remunerate him on success not on status quo.

It might only be a year of a difference but it might increase his motivation to succeed and earn himself a better deal.

Steve Ferns
23 Posted 05/06/2018 at 19:07:10
John, he had an instant impact and instant results at Estoril, Olympiacos, Hull and Watford. Sporting did have a decent start but they were better at the end of the season. So yes, if he’s going to do well, it should be evident by Christmas.
John Keating
24 Posted 05/06/2018 at 19:21:10
Steve, I sincerely hope you are right.

My point in contract length is to reward Silva at the end of the season with a year option on his remaining one year, and so on. It seems to me contracts are not worth the paper they're written on until it comes to pay off time.

David reckons a 3-year deal is only another one extra on my preferred 2-year deal. He is of course correct but where does it end? Well, he has a 3-year deal, let's just give him another one making it 4? Some say our plan is a 5-year one, so, do we give him a 5-year deal ?

At this time, everything is supposition and we all hope Silva can turn us around, but, if it does go pear-shaped, this time let's try and not get ripped off again.

Steve Ferns
25 Posted 05/06/2018 at 19:30:33
John, he could have a 2-year deal with an option for a third in our favour. You don't know the terms at this stage.

Martinez got a new deal after an excellent first season. Few were bemoaning it and it's only with hindsight that it's criticized. I'm sure if Silva has us in the top 5, we'll be offering him a new 5-year deal.

Koeman was wanted by Moshiri and so had him over a barrel. Allardyce was surely hired with one eye on firing him so the terms should have been easier for Moshiri to swallow.

I don't know whether Silva would accept a 2-year deal, I suppose we won't find out.

Jamie Crowley
26 Posted 05/06/2018 at 19:44:50
Robert @15,

You mention some of the returning players and cast-offs in Dowell, Besic, Lookman, Robinson, and Sandro.

I for one think Mo Besic is going to get a real opportunity to prove his worth with Silva. I could be 100% wrong mind, but he lit the place up at Boro and he's a ball winner who I think might do well under Silva?

We'll see, but Besic is one player who I think has been thrown on the scrap heap a bit early. Steve Ferns will know better than I, but everything I've read about Silva's approach fits Mo pretty well if he played in a holding role?

We'll see.

Lookman needs to come back for sure in my opinion.

Ash Moore
27 Posted 05/06/2018 at 19:59:08
I thought Bobby Martinez was fantastic, and absolutely what this club needed after the Moyes years. The double over Man Utd was the highlight of the last 10 years probably.

Speaking of Moyes, if he gave the "I should never have left" interview, and turned up at Goodison as a spectator, would all be forgiven? In all that time with us, did Moyes end up with any Everton blood?

It's no secret that our better managers "get" this club, and what it's about. Martinez for me has come the closest to "getting" Everton. The problem is Bobby gets everybody. Koeman, Allardyce, Walker, Moyes, Smith....an Evertonian amongst them?

Kim Vivian
28 Posted 05/06/2018 at 20:05:54
Jamie – I hope you're right about Mo. I have always liked him (from before he joined us actually). Enjoyed his highlights and can see his weaknesses but I really do think there is potential in there.

A fighter for sure.

Jamie Crowley
30 Posted 05/06/2018 at 20:30:23
Exactly Kim. Taking everything out of the equation sans this:

Would you rather watch Schneiderlin go through the motions, or watch a 100% hard as nails effort from Mo?

Many will say Mo's not good enough. But when you have a dead season like our last one, give me players who will fight like rabid dogs.

Mo is one of those players. I hope he gets a new life under Silva.

I get the distinct feeling Marco is going to have a lineup full of hustlers. Gueye, although passing is an issue, covers a stupid amount of ground. Siggy runs constantly, Besic is an effort-beast. I think we may see a team at the start of the season that on paper isn't as "talented" as many people's "top pick line-up", but one that will do exactly what Marco wants and tells them to do.

And that will mean work your socks off. It will also mean for the first time in quite a while I expect to see a "real team" instead of 11 dudes tossed together with some obscure metric or reasoning.

For the first time in quite a long while, I'm excited to watch us play again under Silva.

Tony Abrahams
31 Posted 05/06/2018 at 20:48:54
That sounds good to me Jamie, let’s hope you are right about how we are going to play, because if the team works it’s socks off, then the Evertonians will really respond, and going to Goodison will become a lot more enjoyable once agin!
Paul Birmingham
32 Posted 05/06/2018 at 20:52:16
Early days, but it seems like the club has a DOF and first-team coach who appear to get on and will work and plan the club's playing strategy.

It's early days, but good signs, and whilst Silva wasn't my first choice, he kept stum for 8 months, and now it looks like the club are working as a club and not on fairy tales, as often in the last 30 years.

Let's see what summer brings in.

.

Tim Locke
33 Posted 05/06/2018 at 21:10:54
Steve Ferns - I can only believe you mean Christmas 2019.
Jerome Shields
34 Posted 05/06/2018 at 23:10:28
John (24). I see where you are coming from. A shorter contract, with an option, would have been better for the reasons you suggested. The Board has made an unbelievable mess of the previous three Managers' contracts.

We all know that the revitalisation of Everton, given the self-inflicted problems, is a 5-year project. Poor planning and contracts have got us to where we are now.

Maybe the Board is like those (I include myself) who hope that Silva is going to be the 'one',after the disappointment of the other so-called 'ones' who were going to make Everton into a top 4 side. But this isn't the way to think when you are running a football club.

I do have concerns regarding Silva and the Board, but I do see a plan trying to be implemented, which is a welcome change. Hopefully the unprofessional Everton Board don't derail it.

Robert Leigh
35 Posted 05/06/2018 at 23:11:10
Jamie and Kim - I'm on the same page as you both with regards to Mo.

I think he's got his confidence back, had a great run in the team at Boro when they were chasing down the top 3/4 in the Championship – built for this upward fight we find ourselves in.

We can't be a team of headless chickens for sure, but if we were it'd be better than watching what we have the last few months.

And Lookman starts for me for the first ten games, regardless of how he does. Look at Richarlison under Silva at Watford, Mola can be that guy and then some.

Don Alexander
36 Posted 05/06/2018 at 23:31:56
Besic has thrived only in leagues appreciably less than what the Premier League demands and he is now 25. That said, some div extended his contract to 2021 so, as far as I'm concerned, he'll be one of the main ones that Silva has to work his alleged coaching magic on.

Great if he can, but I ain't holding my breath, and that's with reference to Besic alone by the way. If he goes, I suggest we'll be paying any leeway in his salary until 2021 as well. Sigh.

Matthew Williams
37 Posted 07/06/2018 at 15:53:04
Kenwright has been Chairman since 1999. In that time, we have won nowt. Then he brings in Moshiri and my fellow Blues think we will progress by breaking the glass ceiling of the Premier League, enter the top six, then top four and be regulars in the Champions League... Then what? Win it... jeez.

The Premier League placings are not the route we should take but Moshiri can't see it. Never a mention from him about the two domestic cups or from our new gaffer or DoF it seems. Sad as that is our best route to silverware and global success. The world only notices winners, not who comes 4th.

The only person who will benefit from incremental placings in the Premier League will be Moshiri as, over time, his stock will increase but our trophy cabinet will still be bare.

At least I'll know by mid-September if our new managerial team has Wembley earmarked this season... but I am not hopeful.

Prove me wrong, please Blues.

PLEASE.

Jay Harris
38 Posted 07/06/2018 at 16:36:18
What I can't understand is why contracts aren't performance-related.

Let's say a basic pay of £2m a year with £0-3m a year add-ons based on league placing and cup appearances.

A specific clause for termination due to non-performance following a series of warnings.

It never fails to astound me that managers can fail spectacularly and walk away with millions, straight into another job.

Brian Harrison
39 Posted 07/06/2018 at 17:07:32
Jay,

The same reason that players don't fancy performance-related pay – because if it doesn't work out they want their contracts paid in full to the end of the term. So Martinez walked away with £10 million and no doubt Koeman pretty near that figure and Allardyce £6 million after 6 months in the job.

Like all transfers, be it managers or players they want a minimum of 3-year contracts, and clubs are quite happy to agree them till things go wrong then as Everton have found out it gets very expensive.

Moyes had a 6-month contract at West Ham because it suited him as well as the club, and let's not forget Moshiri only wanted to give him 6 months originally but Allardyce turned it down as he knew Everton were desperate to get him. He probably knew if he signed a 6-month contract he would be sacked at the end of the season as he was but this way he walks away with £6 million instead of nothing.

Jay Harris
40 Posted 07/06/2018 at 17:15:14
I guess, as long as the media millions keep pouring into the clubs, they will continue to give it away, eh, Brian?
Brian Harrison
41 Posted 07/06/2018 at 17:34:16
Jay,

You only have to look at what has happened at Aston Villa – they spent money they didn't have, gambling that they would get into the Premier League, which would have enabled them to pay off their debts. But they lost to Fulham in the playoffs and now owe the taxman a considerable amount of money.

I remember reading Alan Sugar's autobiography and he said when he was chairman of Spurs, all his business acumen went out the window. The manager kept saying, "If you buy me so-and-so, we will win the league" Then, when it didn't happen, he was asked "Well, buy me these 3 players and we will definitely win the league." Again, it didn't happen.

Seems even the cleverest of businessmen lose all control of their faculties when they get involved with football clubs. Beware Mr Moshiri, you have already listened to Martinez and Koeman and are still no nearer winning a trophy.

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