Season › 2017-18 › News Dowell on target as England triumph in Toulon Saturday, 9 June, 2018 72comments | Jump to most recent Kieran Dowell scored the winner as England U21s beat Mexico this evening to win their third straight Toulon Tournament. Jonjoe Kenny and Callum Connolly were also named in the starting XI after also being involved in the semi-final, in which England beat Scotland 3-1, but Tom Davies is again on the substitutes' bench. Roberto Alvarado gave the Mexicans and early lead but Dael Fry cancelled it out later in the half. Dowell then turned the match on its head nine minutes before the break with a lovely side-foot finish from near the penalty spot. Superb work on the left from Arsenal winger Eddie Nketiah created the chance for the Everton man to pass the ball inside the post. Dowell looked to have carved out the goal that could have made the game safe for England when he laid the ball up for Tammy Abraham but the young Chelsea forward somehow put his shot into the post with the goal gaping in front of him. Reader Comments (72) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Harry Wallace 1 Posted 09/06/2018 at 17:31:51 Interesting to see they picked Dowell ahead of Davies. Maybe Dowell is good enough for our first team next season? Michael Kenrick 2 Posted 09/06/2018 at 17:48:04 Mexico score after just 2 mins! Eric Paul 3 Posted 09/06/2018 at 17:54:04 Is it on tv anywhere Bobby Mallon 4 Posted 09/06/2018 at 17:55:16 Forget our youth not good enough but some players Michael Kenrick 5 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:05:05 Live on Freesports, Eric. TVplayer.cpm Derek Taylor 6 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:06:10 Showing now on FREESPORTS, Sky 422 James Flynn 7 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:08:19 Fry in the 32nd minutes. 1-1 James Flynn 8 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:08:20 Fry in the 32nd minutes. 1-1 Derek Taylor 9 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:09:20 Now 1-1 ! Eric Paul 10 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:10:24 Thank you Michael Kenrick 11 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:12:10 Sheepish celebration of that gift from their goalie. Connolly involved down the right, but these Mexicans are very tricky and dangerous. Derek Taylor 12 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:12:10 Dowell puts England ahead. James Flynn 13 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:12:40 36th minute, Dowell from in close. 2-1 Michael Kenrick 14 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:13:00 Brilliant work from Nketiah to set up Dowell (#7) with a wonderful pass just inside the post. Jay Wood[BRZ] 15 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:13:21 Get in Kieran!Involved in the build up and clean finish. 2-1 England. Michael Kenrick 16 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:17:07 Only 40 mins each way... WTF? Anton Walsh 17 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:18:53 Dowell scores a nice goal to go up 2-1. Derek Taylor 18 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:58:14 Wonderful work from Dowell for 'glamour boy' Abraham to waste! Michael Kenrick 19 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:58:42 Astounding miss by Abraham after a fantastic run and feed by Dowell. James Flynn 20 Posted 09/06/2018 at 18:58:52 65th minute, should have been 3-1 Real nice work by Dowell came to nothing as teammate missed a sitter. Jay Wood[BRZ] 21 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:01:55 Beautiful play by Kieran Dowell to lay it on a plate for Abrahams...Oh dear! What a woeful miss.The Everton boys playing very well. Anton Walsh 22 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:03:13 Dowell deffo has the skill but needs the mindset to go with it. It's hard for a cultured leftie to look like he's giving 100%. Derek Taylor 23 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:04:58 The French haven't marketed this tourney too well. There's about a dozen spectators — or am I exaggerating? Big Rugby Union town is Toulon. Derek Taylor 24 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:15:50 The kids done great! Championes! Dennis Stevens 25 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:17:32 It's the altitude, Michael – I believe they'replaying quite close to sea level. Danny Broderick 26 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:18:05 Does Dowell look like he's ready to step up next season? Jay Wood[BRZ] 27 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:18:14 And once again England wins a trophy, thanks to a winning goal by an Everton player.I hope Silva and Brands are watching this. Maybe, just maybe, we have a few squad solutions already on the books. Michael Kenrick 28 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:19:08 Well done, lads, and especially the Everton Trio, with a lovely winning goal from our very own Kieran Dowell. Derek Knox 29 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:19:14 Well done to the team for a win, especially the Everton contingent. The winner by Dowell, who played well throughout. Dennis Stevens 30 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:19:24 Absotively, Jay! Michael Kenrick 31 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:20:08 Jayzus... how many trophies? Bridge and tiddlywinks pots as well!!! Derek Knox 32 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:23:51 Does this mean we have 3/11 of a Trophy already ? Derek Taylor 33 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:24:02 Do I get one for most posts, Michael ? Derek Knox 34 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:27:47 Michael, there's even a Silver Teapot for the best tea lady! Brian Cleveland 35 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:30:25 Why were Lookman and Calvert-Lewin not involved in this tournament? They're still the right age aren't they? Gavin Johnson 36 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:35:21 Does this mean we get the ubiquitous calls for Dowell to get a run in the 1st team now?Didn't see the game. Did anyone notice where Dowell was playing. Was he out on the wing or in a No.10 role? Kunal Desai 37 Posted 09/06/2018 at 19:43:05 Should be in the matchday squad from next season. Certainly used as a substitute to start with and then ease him slowly into starting matches similar to Davies. Peter Gorman 38 Posted 09/06/2018 at 20:08:17 Brian, that question has been asked at the start of the tournament and I think the best answer is injury. I've no details myself.Well done to the team. Steve Ferns 39 Posted 09/06/2018 at 20:23:13 Calvert-Lewin missed the last few games with injury, he has still not recovered or Everton asked for him to be able to miss the tournament recover at the club and get a full pre-season in. No idea on Lookman. Mike Gaynes 40 Posted 09/06/2018 at 22:12:44 Steve, Lookman took a thump on the thigh in Leipzig's final league game and eventually came off early in the second half. I've read nothing since, but he may be nursing an injury. Peter Mills 41 Posted 09/06/2018 at 22:55:13 I was once fortunate enough to have a long chat with Kevin Sheedy, and I asked him how he dealt with the stick he got from the terraces (loads, from our own fans). He said it never bothered him, because he knew he had the skill to produce a moment of brilliance that could change a game. I wonder whether that is inate self-confidence, or something instilled by a manager or coach? Kieran Dowell seems to be a similar type of player, can he withstand the pressure exerted on him by all of us, especially if he appears to be a “lazy†player? Phil Smith 42 Posted 09/06/2018 at 23:03:42 Our youth isn't good enough, Bobby??? Only won the U17 and U20 World Cup, U19 Euro and this tournament 3 years in a row! Gavin Johnson 43 Posted 09/06/2018 at 23:05:26 Anyone know what position Dowell played in tonight? Andy Williams 44 Posted 09/06/2018 at 23:20:53 Brands saying that Lookman is going to be in the squad for next season and that he tried to sign him for PSV. Peter Gorman 45 Posted 09/06/2018 at 23:27:59 Gavin, Dowell played the Number 10 role behind the two strikers. Ed Prytherch 46 Posted 10/06/2018 at 04:14:51 Dowell had a good game and he contributed when the Mexicans had the ball. On one occasion, he lost the ball then won it back again. He looks to have improved in that respect. His touch was superb. Martin Berry 47 Posted 10/06/2018 at 09:06:32 We all know that Kieran has the ability but he needed to grow into a man to able to deal with the physicality. Hence the move on loan to the Championship. Whether he is quite there yet, the next season will tell. I really hope so as he could be a very special player. David Ellis 48 Posted 10/06/2018 at 13:54:22 I think he may have more "upside" than Davies. Davies grew into a man quicker, but I'm not sure he has sufficient touch to really make it to the highest level. Dowell has the touch... hopefully he can get the physicality he will need. John G Davies 49 Posted 10/06/2018 at 15:08:53 Ivan Lendl on being asked how come Andy Murray chose him as coach. "There isn't a lot he needs ability wise but he lacks one thing. I can teach him how to be a bastard."Keiran has got a lot of ability but to take the next step he needs the above. Gavin Johnson 50 Posted 10/06/2018 at 17:04:22 Thanks Peter. I was curious whether he'd be playing behind the striker or out on the wing. Most of the time I've seen Dowell he's been out wide. Andrew Clare 51 Posted 10/06/2018 at 17:16:45 I just hope Everton persevere with Dowell. He is a class player without doubt and as mention above if he can get that ruthless streak he will go all the way.As a pure football talent he is worth a place in the first team squad. James Flynn 52 Posted 10/06/2018 at 18:11:31 I'd say Dowell is the goods. He's yet only 20, we need to keep in mind. Another season on loan to the Championship and let's see what happens.I'd add this about our youngsters. Kenny, Connolly, Dowell, Lookman, Davies, Calvert-Lewin, Holgate. I know I'm forgetting some, but that's 7 off the top of my head, who have been in and around the first team. So far, these kids have come thru winning things, Club and country, still so young. And they are talented.I'm of a mind that this next season will be about Brands and Silva actually finding a team out of the current mess. If, by January, we're seeing a fit, battling, cohesive team, I'll be happy regardless of where we finish. If that happens, I believe (these and other of our youngsters) will be ready to do battle in 19-20 and 20-21 and we'll really be on to something exciting when headed to Bramley-Moore Dock. Sam Hoare 53 Posted 10/06/2018 at 19:49:50 A lot to admire about Kieran but at the same time he was unable to get into a mediocre Forest team towards the end of last season, new manager there didn't fancy him.As said above he needs to find some grit and consistency to add to his talent. David Silva is a superb ball player but he also works unbelievably hard and is much tougher than his stature suggests. He could probably use another loan in the Championship to show that he can be productive consistently and fight hard for the team at the same time. Phil Smith 54 Posted 11/06/2018 at 03:54:43 Yes, James, you're forgetting young Beni an' all. He didn't look out of place in any game I saw last season. Lev Vellene 55 Posted 11/06/2018 at 06:17:32 Didn't Forest also make some permanent signing for his position in January? I seem to remember from some match reports I read that Dowell was used more on the left side from then on. And people here say he's better on the right side when not a #10... Did anyone pay more attention (or at least have a better memory) than me about this? Sam Hoare 56 Posted 11/06/2018 at 07:18:43 Yes, Lev they made some new signings but also Kieran's (very high) levels dropped and they had a new manager who was slightly less inclined to carry ‘luxury' players. Doesn't mean that much and Neil Warnock didn't give Barkley much game time on his Championship loan for similar reasons but he turned out okay.It will all come down to whether Silva & Brands think he is ready or not but, if not, then he'd be better off getting 30-40 games next season in a decent footballing Championship side.I've read that there's a high correlation between successful development and how many first team games young players get between 17-21 which is a crucial stage of progression. Gavin Johnson 57 Posted 11/06/2018 at 08:42:03 What's Joe Anderson smoking?! Just tweeted that Dowell reminds him of a young Bryan Robson. WTF?! lol Dave Abrahams 58 Posted 11/06/2018 at 09:11:44 Gavin (#57), that tells you more about Joe Anderson and his football knowledge, Robson and Dowell were polar opposites as young players, so there is a massive improvement in Keiran's tackling and work rate needed before he can be compared to a great talent like Bryan Robson. It doesn't mean Dowell will not be a good player for the Blues. Gavin Johnson 59 Posted 11/06/2018 at 09:32:02 I know, Dave. That's what made me chuckle. Talk about chalk and cheese. If Kieran had half the battle in him that Robson had he'd be in and around the first team now. Dowell's defo got the skill and ability, but he's lacking in fight and temperament right now. John Raftery 60 Posted 11/06/2018 at 10:11:15 Kieran Dowell? A player who can pass the ball quickly and accurately, a player who can dribble past the opposition, a player who can cross the ball at the right pace and trajectory and a player who can score goals inside and outside the box. Not our kind of player at all. Steve Carse 61 Posted 11/06/2018 at 11:08:56 It's difficult to compare Dowell with anyone in the modern game. Going back some, he reminds me of Le Tissier, and maybe Stan Bowles. A bit of the Devonshire about him too. He's the sort of player that Scotland used to produce in big numbers but who subsequently failed to show the strength and work rate to make it in England. David Ellis 63 Posted 11/06/2018 at 11:15:53 Bryan Robson??? Great player but totally different style to Dowell. His speciality was arriving late in the box and scored a lot of goals as a midfielder. Tim Cahill type of player.I like the comparison to Stan Bowles, here's hoping Dowell has half the talent... a flame that flickered all too briefly as many did in the 70s with all that smoking, boozing and chip-buttie eating they routinely did. Martin Reppion 64 Posted 11/06/2018 at 11:34:14 I like the references to Stan Bowles and other 70s legends. Wasn't Bowles the one who was thrown out of gambling rehab for offering to bet on how long he could go without betting?I've only seen a little of Dowell play, but the consensus is that he is the Sheedy/Brady type player, which managers often mistrusted because they prefer work and team ethic to flair. (Insert your Gordon Lee quote here.) But when players like Brady, Tony Currie etc turned up playing for the opposition, the fans always wished they were playing for us. We've had so little to cheer recently, we are all grasping at straws and hoping for something special. I really hope this lad will become that player. And more, I hope he does it playing for Everton. Tony Abrahams 65 Posted 11/06/2018 at 12:03:24 I haven't watched much of Dowell but, if he's not your typical English type player, then it might be better to keep him next year rather than getting him out on loan again, and especially playing for a manager who doesn't play his type of game?He's 20, get him around the first team squad, and see how it goes, because not many play every week now, and it just might be better for him to have 10/15 games for Everton next season, rather than 25 somewhere else. Dave Abrahams 66 Posted 11/06/2018 at 13:45:50 John (#60), yes he can do a lot of the things you mention and he looks very good doing them, he also drifts out of the game for long periods, sometimes doesn't come back, rarely goes looking for the ball. For a big lad he doesn't relish tackling an opponent, so although he can do all the things you say unless he learns to do the hard work as well he will struggle to consistently get a game for whoever he plays for. I've been saying this for three seasons now, it's constructive criticism to help the lad. He can get to the top of the ladder or he can be an also-ran; I sincerely hope it is the former. Martin Nicholls 67 Posted 11/06/2018 at 16:40:04 Dave (#66) – at 5ft 10ins and (at a guess) not much over 11 stone wringing wet, I wouldn't call him "a big lad"! In fact, he's only marginally taller than Kevin Sheedy, a player who he does have similarities to.A mate of mine met Leon Osman at a function around five years ago and when asked to "name names" out of youngsters at the Club who he thought might make the grade, Ossie specifically picked out Kieran Dowell. I've taken an Iinterest in Dowell since then (another mate knows him) and (as others have said) if he could just get a bit more "devil" in his play, he could be top class. Gavin Johnson 68 Posted 11/06/2018 at 17:21:42 Kieran's never going to be a Robson type player. If we're going to make comparisons he reminds me of someone like Le Tissier or Hoddle. He's got a bit to go yet before he gets to that kind of level though. The Guardian are saying we're making an opening bid for James Maddison. If that's the case, he'll be contesting Sigurdsson for the No 10 role so it seems likely that Dowell will go out on another loan. John Raftery 69 Posted 11/06/2018 at 17:41:42 Dave (66) I saw Kieran clatter an opponent near the end of the Under-23 match v Athletic Bilbao 18 months ago. I agree however that tackling isn't his strong point and that to get to the top in the modern game he will need to work hard. But within the right coaching regime and assuming the player has the appetite, instilling hard work should be the easy bit when a player is blessed with such a wide range of skills as Kieran obviously is. Martin (67) He actually looks taller than 5ft 10ins. I know that is the height quoted in the media but those sources are not always accurate. The Sky Sports Football Yearbook has had Seamus as 6ft 4ins for several seasons. Jay Wood[BRZ] 70 Posted 11/06/2018 at 20:19:21 There is often a tendency for folk to focus on what a player doesn't have (in the beholder's eye), rather than highlight what he does have. And what Kieran Dowell has is innate football skill in abundance which cannot be coached.He has exquisite technical skills. Excellent close control. Can run at pace with the ball. Comfortable with both feet. Capable of an explosive shot with both feet, be that a moving ball or a still ball from a free kick. His stamina seems much improved: in the recent Toulon Tournament, England played 5 games in 12 days. Kieran's time on the pitch was thus:1) Full 80 minutes vs China;2) Subbed at 66 mins vs Mexico;3) Given a breather and came off the subs bench vs the weaker Qatar for the final 18 minutes;4) Played the full 80 minutes vs Scotland in the semi-final; 5) And the full match vs Mexico in the final (where, of course, he scored the tournament-winning goal).In the final, he produced the single most exquisite passage of play from any player on the pitch. Not his goal, but the chance he set up for Tammy Abraham.I don't exaggerate when I say Kieran was Neymar-like how, in the congested heart of the Mexican penalty area, he retained control, weaved his way past 3-4 Mexicans at close quarters, and still found space to lay it on a plate for Abraham... who woefully missed.Last pre-season, he impressed as much as anybody before (disappointingly, for some) he was loaned out to Forest. He was doing very well at Forest before a change of manager saw him out of the team.Now I'm old school and like a blood-curdling tackle as much as any 'traditionalist'. But increasingly the importance of that side of the game is rapidly diminishing.The most appealing – and successful – modern day teams are constantly on the move and the ball with it that there are very limited opportunities to get a tackle in.I would hope Marco Silva brings some of that style to Everton. And if he does, it won't be a hairy Orc that fits best into that system, but players with the skill and ability of Kieran Dowell. Lawrence Green 71 Posted 11/06/2018 at 20:47:04 Jay (#70),You are so correct about folks looking for short-comings in players, when in reality there isn't a perfect player on the planet. I was very annoyed when Dowell was allowed to go out on loan as, from the pre-season, he looked the part, helped by scoring a couple of great goals. Every player, young or old, has room for improvement but, as you say, if the basic talent isn't there in the first place, there is little chance the player will become better. Dowell seems to be a level-headed lad and doesn't appear to shun the hard work; it's just that, unlike Davies, he appears to do things with an easy-looking style. Davies and Dowell do have a chance of making the grade, although I'm not as sure about Davies as I was 18 months ago. I watched the Scotland side in the same tournament and came away wondering what all the fuss was about in relation to Fraser Hornby? He's a big lad and looks powerful, but I didn't see anything in his performances which made me sit up and take notice, unlike Dowell who I've been impressed with most times that I've seen him play. Peter Gorman 72 Posted 12/06/2018 at 00:43:13 Bravo, Jay. Simply bravo.I was just on the verge of citing that exact same bit of skill against Mexico but you've said it all, except maybe the bit about Dowell anticipating the short pass and charging forward to intercept the ball before his mazy dribble.Focusing on his strengths; there is a great player there - as folk like Dave have long pointed out. It is now up to our club to develop him. I'll happily admit I would consider it a comparative success if Silva only manages mid-table this season but gets the side playing attractive football whilst incorporating and developing the talents of Dowell, Davies, Connolly, Beni, Kenny, Calvert-Lewin and Lookman. We'd reap the benefits for years. Ed Prytherch 73 Posted 12/06/2018 at 02:26:50 Dowell = Barkley + Brain Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads