Richarlison nears big-money Everton switch

Monday, 23 July, 2018 188comments  |  Jump to last
Richarlison has successfully passed a medical ahead of a proposed move from Watford to Everton which is expected to be finalised on Tuesday.

The Brazilian forward was pictured today arriving for his physical exam after the two clubs agreed what seems to be a deal that could be worth £40m.

Richarlison was signed for the Hornets for around £11m by Marco Silva who persuaded the 21-year-old to come to the Premier League over Ajax in the Dutch Eredivisie last year.

He scored five times in his debut season in England but struggled for form as Watford's form collapsed, leading to Silva's dismissal as manager at Vicarage Road.  


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John Smith
1 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:13:08
Looking forward to see him being signed and seeing him play. Not for the mooted 50, more like 30 or so, with 10-15 in addons.
Paul Rimmer
2 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:18:36
After the debacle of last summer, the last 3 signings seem to be astute. Welcome to Everton la.
Simon Smith
4 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:21:44
Get him in, bring in Digne and Mina, add a surprise and sell some deadwood and we can all look forward to a new chapter under new management.
Michael Lynch
5 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:25:46
This is true Paul. Walcott is a class above everyone else in the squad, and Richarlison has the potential under Silva to be one of the PL young players of the season. This is more like it.
Fran Mitchell
6 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:29:19
Should be the first of a few, I expect another 3 incomings with about 4 outgoings.

He should provide something different to our attack, either from wide or down the middle. Has skill, pace and a work-rate that should see him become a fan favourite.

Hopefully the club will firmly state that Lookman is going nowhere.

A front 3 of Lookman - Richarlison - Walcott would indeed have pace and potential for goals. With Tosun and DCL offering competition. Niasse as an option on the bench. With further competition from Evans and Vlasic.

A central midfielder with vision to feed this attack needs to be looked into.

Jamie Evans
7 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:33:40
Ricky or Charlie ?

What do we call him ?

Mark McParlan
8 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:38:35
£40million+ (or £50million if you believe the BBC) for a winger that hasn't scored a goal since November? Hmm.
Pat Kelly
10 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:46:13
Welcome Richarlison Andrade
Stephen Davies
11 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:48:28
the figure is around 35m with add ons. To put it in perspective
Oxlaid Chamberlain was 35m and Tosun 27m
John Wignall
12 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:50:26
50million a lot after watching last season and pre season get him signed up and a center half and midfield genral
Mike Gaynes
13 Posted 23/07/2018 at 15:54:35
Fran #6, Richarlison isn't a striker, he's a left wing. Uses his pace and dribbling skills out wide.

I believe his arrival could well mean Lookman's departure. To my eye Richarlison is the better player -- more skilled, pacier, stronger.

And Tosun isn't "competition" for anybody. He's the starter. Nobody else in the club has his first touch, his composure in the box and his eye for goal. That takedown-touch-shot off the post against Porto was silky and well beyond anyone else we have. Unless we're in the market for a striker (and there aren't even any current rumors to that effect), you're going to see #14 up top this season.

Aidan Wade
15 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:09:25
What has he done to inflate his price from £11 million to £40 million in the past year?
Martin Berry
16 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:22:01
He will be a signing that has the faithful drooling. We will have real pace on both flanks, we just need a ball winner in midfield to make those passes... Aaron Mooy next, please.

As for Lookman, Leipzig say that he wants the move; if true, no use in keeping players who don't want to play for the club. That said, he is a talent but will he physically develop enough to survive in the Premier League? I have my doubts.

Liam Reilly
17 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:25:47
£30 or 50 Million; it's just crazy money for 'potential'.

Silva must really believe that this kid has all the tools to be the next Neymar to be shedding out that much cash.

Joao Moutinho is finally on his way I see... to Wolves. A couple of years too late, I suspect, but will be interesting to see him in the Premier League as we were linked so often with him.

Mike Gaynes
18 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:32:17
It isn't him, Aidan. The entire player market has gone batshit crazy.
Alan Smith
19 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:37:49
Good potential. At the moment the three behind the striker look like being Richarlison, Sigurdsson and Walcott.

Very decent to decent enough but not top 6 quality. Surely a world-class left-footed winger or attacking midfielder and a striker better than Tosun is the least we should demand after the departure of Rooney and Lukaku?

Our leading scorers the last two seasons running have left. That's not what we were told would happen under Moshiri's tenure. As for Brands,he couldn't find a better player for £35-50M?

Not only do we need the striker and another winger or attacking midfielder, we need two central midfielders and a left-back and at least one centre-back. If they aren't top drawer then Silva will struggle to reach the 8th that Allardyce did, IMHO.

West Ham, for example, could field Yarmolenko, Arnautovic and Anderson behind a striker.

They have Wilshere too. Is Lanzini still there?

Fran Mitchell
20 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:39:07
Martin: Leipzig say he wants the move.

So we should just bend over and let then have him?

He's got 3 years in his contract and in a key stage. This year could be a big year for him, he ain't gonna deatroy his career. Also, look at Richarilson's fee. All Lookman has to do is string together 10 decent performances this season and we'll be able to sell him for £40M+ in a years time, so sell him for £15M now? Absurd!

Steavey Buckley
21 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:41:28
Just 4 more signings: A left back, centre back, midfield player and a striker. After 3 dismal games when Everton just scored one goal against the mighty Bury.
Sean McCarthy
22 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:47:03
Distinctly underwhelmed
Mark Taylor
23 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:48:31
I am not at all in favour of this signing, it looks like we are getting ripped off and we should not be dealing with basket case club owners who in legal dispute with both us and Silva- that just sounds like a bad idea. All the more so if Lookman goes for far less than we pay for Richarlison, because the latter looks no better to me, both are basically 'potential' not 'actual'.

But he's here, so I'm hoping Silva's judgement is better than the jokers we've had overseeing transfer policy in recent years. No doubt Moshiri would be hoping so too. Too many more cock ups and we will be in a lot of trouble financially and therefore on the pitch.

Conor Skelly
24 Posted 23/07/2018 at 16:55:38
Big no from me. Like I said in another post, he isn't what we need.
Fran Mitchell
25 Posted 23/07/2018 at 17:01:02
Comparing to West Ham: Yarmalenko and Autnatavic are very inconsistent and lack pace, and both will soon be 30.

Lanzini is crocked.

Richarilson has potential and has proven he is capable last season he burned out - he played something like 70 games in 2017 with no break.

The lad is rated by both Silva and Brands, has pace and skill and looks to be a hard working player too. All attributes that we want in an Everton player. At 35 million, he is basically standard fee for any PL player nowadays.

From what I have seen, he could play down the middle as well as out wide. For this reason I think an attack of him, Lookman and Walcott could really offer something. Bags of pace with potential for players to switch positions, causing nightmares for opposition defenders trying to mark them.

Denis Richardson
26 Posted 23/07/2018 at 17:05:32
Looks like he’s here so fingers crossed he’s worth it.
Brian Harrison
27 Posted 23/07/2018 at 17:09:16
I think we should wait till he signs and plays a full season before jumping to conclusions as to whether its a good move or not. I think we need to trust Silva and Brands that this is a good move for Everton.

I was listening to Tim Vickery, a journalist based in Brazil, and he said this kid hasn't had a break in the last 15 months, he played in the Under-20s World Cup then went straight from that to Watford. Yes, he ran out of steam towards the end of the season, but let's remember, this is a very young man who changed continents –not only clubs. How often have we seen seasoned internationals move to the Premier League and struggle in their first season?

Maybe Silva plans to play Richarlison up front with Lookman and Walcott on the wings. Now what a pacy front 3 that would be, something that would allow us to play in the style that Silva wants. A fast counter attacking team a bit like our neighbours, and it seems to work for them.

Dermot Byrne
28 Posted 23/07/2018 at 17:14:20
I think we may see a different approach to attack...Jesus we need it.

We need to be able to play through the middle as well as just traditional wingers crossing to a big centre forward. Above all we need players to make runs forward and someone having the nerve to actually take the risk of passing to them rather than checking back and passing it backwards or sideways. I think Tosun has the close control needed and this guy the pace. The passes? Umm.

It is also about a strategy that means players change positions during a game. Swap roles so the opposition defence does not work us out after 10 mins and then shut up shop as we pass side by side I of them. Be clever.

May take a while but imagination is needed.

Michael Hughes
(South Wales)

29 Posted 23/07/2018 at 17:33:53
And here's our new signing, just stepping off the London-to-Liverpool National Express, looking around for someone who was supposed to meet him at the station, but there's only a taxi driver with a sign saying Charlie's Son.

Keep your ticket mate, you may be able to claim it back on expenses. Good luck, and put some bloody fire into this team!

Ian Bennett
30 Posted 23/07/2018 at 17:42:19
£35m plus £5m for winning the Champions League, the Premier League and best new stadium.

It's £35m then...

Dan Nulty
31 Posted 23/07/2018 at 18:07:18
To those concerned about his drop-off in form. He was 20, the Brazilian season started April 2017 I understand, he had the U20 World Cup June, arrived in July 2018 mid-season for him, scored 5 in first 12 games then dropped off. No wonder given he'd been playing for months already, apparently. A gamble but he could come on leaps and bounds having had time off this summer.

Fingers crossed

Gary Carter
32 Posted 23/07/2018 at 18:09:48
Fran Mitchell, proven in the Premier League until he burned out?!?! He burned out after 10 games!

Totally unbelievable that we've paid £40million plus add-ons.

And what's Brands's role in this? Isn't he supposed to be unearthing new young talent not players already found out in the Premier League and already managed by our current manager... sad times.

Silva – Poor mans Martinez.
Brands – Walsh Mk 2

Fran Mitchell
33 Posted 23/07/2018 at 18:36:57
Dan, the Brazilian league actually starts in January/February as the state championships and sometimes the Brazilian Cup come before the start of the Serie A (Brasileirão).

I read that he played nigh on 70 games in 2017 without any breaks, for a 19-/20-year-old, that is a lot.

He then came to the Premier League, a huge jump, started off flying. He then went on to become the most fouled player in the Premier League last season, showing that his prominent rise was noted by Premier League defences and he became a marked man. As Watford struggled for form, he also waned but continued to work, made the highest number of shots (albeit with low success rate – showing both the limited opportunities created and his tiredness).

Look at Harry Kane, best striker in Europe quite possibly, but was visibly tired after a long season and very ineffective both at the end of the Premier League campaign and in the World Cup (despite putting goals past Panama).

I by no means think this is a guaranteed star in the making, but he has the attributes to be a good player, wants to play for Silva, and both Silva and Brands want him. And we got him, despite Watford quite clearly not having good relations with us. This is something new for Everton, something to cheer for once.

Pat Kelly
34 Posted 23/07/2018 at 18:39:59
Still no sign. Must be the longest medical on record.
Clarence Yurcan
35 Posted 23/07/2018 at 18:44:27
I read an article (I believe it was in the Daily Mail) that the actual fee for the player is around £30M, the rest is "hush money" to Watfrod to resolve their dispute against us re: Silva.
James Stewart
36 Posted 23/07/2018 at 18:45:59
Great news, spells the end for charity cases like Mirallas, Bolasie, Klaassen et al. The whole squad needs culling.

No problem with the fee, he's miles better than what we have on the left.

Bill Gienapp
37 Posted 23/07/2018 at 19:05:45
Like most, I initially balked at the fee. And I stand by my original point, which is that the club should be doing a better job of identifying players like these when they're still cheap. Hopefully Brands will have more of a long-term impact in that regard.

However, at the end of the day, I want to see us signing players who will improve us on the pitch, and I strongly feel that Richarlison will do that. That was the problem last season – it wasn't the amount of money spent, it was the lack of on-field impact.

Mal van Schaick
38 Posted 23/07/2018 at 19:26:20
We’ll get the money back on the name on the back of the shirt sales.
Adam Carey
39 Posted 23/07/2018 at 19:26:40
I think we all jump at the fee, but sadly the inflation from £13M to £40M is down to the free spending fools at PSG who paid £200M for Neymar, and then lodged £140M for (I think) Mbappe. You could argue they were both realistically worth half the fees. Totally distorted the market. That said, it got us £80M+ for Lukaku.

£35M plus add-ons seems more palatable. Hopefully he flies here. We will love him if he raises the pulses darting down the left before cutting inside to shoot at goal. If he fails he gets sold on and we take a hit, just like Man Utd did with Veron, Liverpool with Carroll, Chelsea with more than 1 and Man City with most. That's the crowd we want to be part of.

David Reid
40 Posted 23/07/2018 at 19:38:48
If Silva prefers to play 4-3-3... who would you choose to be the in the starting XI v Wolves?

Pickford or Stekelenburg

Coleman or Kenny/Martina
Jagielka or Williams/Pennington
Keane or Holgate/Browning
Baines or Digne*/Robinson

Besic or Schneiderlin/Connolly
Sigurdsson or Dowell/Klaassen
Gueye or Davies/Vlasic

Walcott or Mirallas/Bolasie
Tosun or Niasse/Sandro
Richarlison or Lookman/Calvert-Lewin

Not included are: McCarthy, Williams, Baningime
* not signed yet.

Who would be a manager?

Derek Knox
41 Posted 23/07/2018 at 19:43:54
Pat @34, he's checking out all the chippies to see if they do a Brazilian Special with Fried Rice!
Tom McEwan
42 Posted 23/07/2018 at 19:48:01
Now that depends on which 4-3-3 you are talking about, David. Apparently there are several variations on the philosophy...
Tom McEwan
43 Posted 23/07/2018 at 19:54:09
Adam @39, with all due respect, mate, the inflation regarding Richarlison, is all down to the 'free spending fools' at Everton. Does absolutely nobody here see any parallels with last summer?
Brian Wilkinson
44 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:10:14
Pat @34, he had his medical earlier today, the cameras were at our local medical centre in Newton-le-Willows at the Pall Mall medical centre; I can assure you the medical went ahead there with photos of him entering the centre.

Most likely be at Finch Farm now discussing terms, but once again rather than rumours, rest assured his medical took place.

Clive Rogers
45 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:15:46
There is an element of risk with every signing, but this is the type of signing I like to see. He's young fast and has scored goals in the Premier League. He may have tailed off somewhat at Watford but his potential is enormous.
James Flynn
46 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:29:38
Great signing. An exciting one.

This kid or Lookman on the left flank? No comparison.

If we can land the LB and CB we're rumored for, we will have a complete team.

Except what to do about Schneiderlin? He's no good.

But Richarlison? Nicely done.

Frank Crewe
47 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:37:09
If I was picking a 4-3-3 with our current squad, including Richarlison I would go with

Pickford
Coleman, Keane, Jagielka, Baines (Digne if he signs)
Davies, Gueye, Sigurdsson.
Richarlison, Tosun, Walcott

With the right service, I think Tosun could score 15 - 20 goals. Our weakness lies in a lack of a dominating pacey centre-back (maybe Yerry Mina could solve that problem if we could get him) and lack of craft in the midfield.


Darren Murphy
48 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:38:38
Could be worse, Fat fuck wanted Troy Deeney in this summer...

Personally I'll never think these fees are worth it as wouldn't anyone with half a brain, unfortunately this is the way till otherwise said and I believe he's a good upgrade on the shite we have.

Something with Ric, Theo and Lookman up top with Tosun and hopefully a decent midfielder pulling a decent pass with slow Siggy and we'd be okay. Obviously signing the two from Barcelona is key if the Tierney deal is dead.

It's not all bad.

Darren Murphy
49 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:40:30
@Frank...kind of what I am thinking man.
Peter Morris
50 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:47:06
Have we got Elstone back to lead the negotiations?
Brian Williams
51 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:53:42
If he's still getting nearer the lad must be hopping it ffs!
Phillip Warrington
52 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:55:42
A new manager and, once again, nothing changes; we pay double for a player because his ex-manager knows him. Why can't we go to Brazil and pay £11M for the next above-average Brazilian player?

I look at Wolves' signings – whoever they have got doing their transfers is who we should have. The money we have wasted snap-buying players without any thought to structure or longevity to the club is unbelievable and just makes you wonder if we will ever become the club that could lift trophies again.

Karl Meighan
53 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:56:50
Agree with Clive@45 if we end up paying 50m then its safe to say he has produced the goods.

Sometimes things look great on paper but football doesn't work like that, last season I applauded the Club for spending big and all the buys seemed like improvements.

Fat Sams 2 signings apart only Pickford convinced, as ever its on the pitch we as fans need convincing, we have to give the new boss are backing and trust and hope he has a eye for a player Koeman never had.

Geoff Lambert
54 Posted 23/07/2018 at 20:58:38
Passed medical signs in the morning. SSN
Philip Bunting
55 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:11:58
Off topic a little but did anyone read that Wolves are to sign J. Moutinho for 5m. Yes, he's 31 but if you got 2 seasons out of him he could pull the strings in any midfield anchor role. 5m sounds rediciously cheap.
Michael Lynch
56 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:18:10
Red Echo confirmed he's passed his medical and there's just paperwork to finish now. Oh, and the price seems to be £40m now. Except on Sky of course, where it's £150m plus Pickford and two of the Toffee Ladies. Do the Shite actually own Sky or is it just coincidence that they're massive bellends?
Mike Gaynes
57 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:19:36
Certainly looks like a bargain, Philip. Partnered with Neves he'll give Wolves a very capable midfield.
Andrew Ellams
58 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:20:37
Michael Sky inflate every price so they can add them all together on deadline day and tell how the Premier League has spent a gazillion this window – like this farce is something to be proud of.
Darren Hind
59 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:24:16
Anyone think we'll finish above the newly promoted Wolves?

I won't be rushing to get that bet on...

John Otway
60 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:27:12
Yet again, shame on you, Darren Hind.
Darren Hind
61 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:35:54
John Otway.

The shame is yours, lad. It's a simple point, but you seem to be struggling with it.

Loko Sanchez
62 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:43:36
Richarlison, Niasse and Walcott. Finally. A front three with pace and natural desire to actually move with or without the ball. These are players who can make things happen on their own and will not be isolated during games like Tosun or Calvert-Lewin. Good signing.

Lee Paige
63 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:44:30
Wolves are like QPR a few seasons back – everyone was saying, "Ooh look at these – they are going to ruffle some feathers."

Yeah... but it never happened.

Ernie Baywood
64 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:52:33
Like most, I'm not convinced by the transfer fee but it's not like I ever think "wow, that's good value" when we sign someone.

Suspect he's got the tools to become a bit of a fan favourite. Young, quick, hardworking. Let's get past the fee and look forward to seeing him.

Peter Warren
65 Posted 23/07/2018 at 21:57:09
Darren - I think we’ll finish above Wolves quite easily
Brent Stephens
66 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:01:08
Darren (#59), "Anyone think we'll finish above the newly promoted Wolves? I won't be rushing to get that bet on".

Does that mean you predict that we won't finish above Wolves? Or does it mean you don't know?

Darren Hind
67 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:01:25
Get yourself around to the bookies then, Peter. You'll get decent odds. I've just checked and Wolves are literally half the price of us with three high street bookies – Hills, Ladbrokes and Coral.
Michael Lynch
68 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:01:43
Wolves may well get off to a flyer, but will probably fade. Pity whoever gets them in the first couple of games... oh.
Lennart Hylen
69 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:02:45
Why buy a winger for £40M who is not proven quality!?!

We have Lookman and he has proved himself in the Bundesliga. A total waste of money as we have Walcott, Bolasie, Mirallas (if he shows the commitment) Vlasic, Sandro, Sigurðsson and a few youngsters to fill at right-wing and left-wing.

There are other places that are more in need of strengthening: left-back, centre-back and a striker with a proven record. I cannot see Everton beeing a free-scoring side this coming season.

Andy Crooks
70 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:05:55
Darren, I will offer you £20 at even money on Wolves. Winnings to a charity of our choice.
Hugh Jenkins
71 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:07:11
Darren (59). We will finish above Wolves. Every year, one of the newly promoted sides gets off to a flyer until the "rest" suss out their modus operandi and then they start to lose and drop down the table.

I fervently hope that at last, we have a manager that brings that little bit of magic with him and that, notwithstanding what happens in any of the "friendlies" between now and August 11th at 17:30, we will see the type of Everton team we have been hoping and praying for ever since Moyes first arrived at Goodison Park.

I believe we will see a team with attacking flair but being solid at the back.

I expect us to win many more games this season, far more comfortably than we have previously.

I still think it will take two or three more transfer windows before we can establish ourselves as a definite top 6 side, knocking on the door of the top four, but, after many trials and tribulations, I do believe that with Moshri, Brands and Silva, we are getting there – at last.

Time will tell and it may all, once again, end in tears and recriminations – but for now – believe!

Paul Tran
72 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:10:06
Darren (#59)

Yes. Please tell me where you can get that bet and the odds. I suspect we'll be large odds on, but if we're not, I'm going in with my wheelbarrow!

David Israel
73 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:15:35
Gary (#32), Marcel Brands's brief is to be a director of football, and that does not just involve 'unearthing gems'. He's not the chief scout.
Darren Hind
74 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:20:46
It's pointless giving it large on a website. If you guys think it's a certainty, go and buy yourselves a shed load of dosh.

Right now on Oddschecker we are 200/1 to win the title with the three bookies I mentioned. Wolves are 100/1. Logic would suggest they will give you better than evens if you go for a "Match Bet"

That's all you have to do... Fill your boots!!

Paul Tran
75 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:24:19
I'll try a couple of them tomorrow, Darren. I have got form on this, with profitable mad EFC bets last two seasons. You even offered me better odds on the first one!
Darren Hind
76 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:27:10
You do indeed have form, Paul, especially for putting your money where your mouth is.

Good luck!

Paul Tran
77 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:29:01
Cheers, Darren, I'm curious if anyone will give odds on that. My best footy bet was nothing to do with Everton. If we ever meet for a pint I'll tell you about it, but not on here!
Steve Ferns
78 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:35:11
Joao Moutinho is one of my favourite players of all time. I've followed him ever since his Sporting side battered us and he was pulling the strings, and as I got drawn into supporting Sporting by my Portuguese friends. He did the dirty on Sporting and joined Porto, although this is more readily accepted by the Portuguese than if he had joined arch rivals Benfica.

After a good few years there, he was signed by Claudio Ranieri for Monaco just after they had come back up from Ligue 2. He had an instant impact, and the following season he was reunited with his old Sporting manager, the brilliant Leo Jardim. He was at Monaco for 5 seasons, and had 4 great ones.

Last seaons he looked in decline, and it was not the same Moutinho in the World Cup. For me, he looks done. That's why it's £5m, but rest assured, he'll be on mega wages. I think a peak Moutinho would have been one of the best playmakers in the Premier League and he would have been able to stand up to the physicalities of it. Now, he's too old, too slow, and too frail.

It's a curious signing because for me, he's a very similar player to Neves. Now, if only we could spend £50m or so getting him to come here, he's exactly what we need and a great age too.

As for Richarlison. He has played as a striker and was such in the U20 World Cup that he starred in and Everton won! He's not a winger, he can't play in midfield, but he can play on the left of a front 3 as a left forward. I believe it was the shift in tactics by Garcia that required more defensively from Richarlison that had a massively negative impact on him. Silva knows this, and Silva will play him on the left of a front three.

Do we need him, definitely. He's exactly what we need. Mirallas has been in the side at left wing in pre-season and Ricarlison is a massive step up on him. He's also better than Lookman at the current moment. Bolasie looks gone. Therefore, we do need a left winger, and I think anyone watching the Porto game would agree that we need more quality in the final third and he brings that.

Who was left winger last season? Well a combination of Calvert-Lewin, Bolasie, Sigurdsson and very rarely Lookman and Mirallas. We'd all love Lookman to slot in there, but is he good enough to do so, well it seems Silva is not so sure. Is Bolasie, Calvert-Lewin and Mirallas what we want for the coming season at left wing? Not for me, I'll take Ricarlison, Malcom, or some other young player with a lot of speed and a lot of skill.

Is the price right, no, I think not. But, if the manager knows that he has a set pot, and that pot is reduced significantly by this signing, and he still wants to proceed, then we should back him.

Kase Chow
79 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:37:49
Darren, where can I bet that Everton will finish above Wolves and get decent odds?

I can’t believe that you’re even questioning whether we’ll finish ahead of Wolves!!

John Malone
80 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:43:25
Steve (#78), great post, mate, some really good poin's which I fully agree with.
Jerome Shields
81 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:47:37
There must be some compensation to Watford involved. He is never worth 35 million. There is no other competition for his signature. He is a big risk for Silva to take on. I am sure he has potiential, but he is going to be under a lot of pressure.
Brian Wilkinson
82 Posted 23/07/2018 at 22:51:20
Darren, for a top half finish, Everton are 2/5 on, Wolves are 11/10 against.

I need more than a wheelbarrow if I can get odds of evens or above, for Everton to finish above Wolves.

Danny Baily
83 Posted 23/07/2018 at 23:02:15
If we stopped paying over the odds for bang average players in positions we don't need to strengthen, then our odds might improve.
James Flynn
84 Posted 23/07/2018 at 23:03:44
Lennart (69) – "Why buy a winger for £40M who is not proven quality!! We have Lookman and he has proved himself in the Bundesliga. "

Last season, one showed quality in the Premier League!!!!!! The other was not played, or played and then sat, by 3 managers at Everton. You're not alone in this Lookman hallucination.

Let's get him off the books and then all his Evertonian followers can rant on Leipzig fan sites at his diminishing playing time there. Really, don't sign Richarlison, we already have Lookman out on the left flank!! Goodness.

Lookman belongs over here in MLS, where he'd do well. He's an MLS-level player. Richarlison is a genuine Premierl League talent. Let's see how it plays out.

Leave it alone about Lookman, for God's sake. He's not top quality and never will be.

Michael Lynch
85 Posted 23/07/2018 at 23:07:16
Daily Star have the fee at £35m plus add-ons now. The rate it's dropping, I reckon it will be announced as £20m by tomorrow.

Great news is RS twts like Steve Nicol are sticking their beaks in now, which will make it even sweeter when Richarlison scores in front of the Kop, drops his kecks and moons the fuckers.

Darren Murphy
86 Posted 23/07/2018 at 23:51:10
Hang on a fecking minute. I'll be now known as Murph or Dazz please as on the live feeds.

Don't worry, Mr Hind, your essays bored fuck out of me anyways, son. ;)

Darren Hind
87 Posted 23/07/2018 at 23:53:03
Brian Wilkinson,

We are literally twice the price of Wolves. With the bookies I mentioned, that's not an opinion, it's a fact. The odds are still on Oddschecker now.

There are an awful lot of people who think it's far from cut and dried, including the leading high street bookies.

If I was as convinced as you. I would shop around and take the best odds to buy this "free money" those awfully generous bookmakers are offering you. I'm not... so I won't.

Brent Stephens
88 Posted 23/07/2018 at 23:54:31
DM !!!
Laurie Hartley
89 Posted 23/07/2018 at 23:55:06
My gut feeling is this lad is going to prove a real live wire.

As Mike Gaynes has suggested above I also reckon he will play on the left of a front three which includes Tosun and Walcott.

They will be a handful for any defense. We need Mina and Digne now and we are set.

Don Alexander
90 Posted 24/07/2018 at 00:13:53
Steve (#78), don't take this the wrong way mate but if Moutinho is one of your "favourite players of all time" it just shows me how much football has declined as an entertainment entity.

But you are far younger than me, so I "forgive" you. Ha-ha!

As and when we sign him maybe Gladwys Street can bastardize Diana Ross (and there's a thought!) singing "Rich-arl-ison, he is so grand. Make this team a better one, if you can!"

Mike Gaynes
91 Posted 24/07/2018 at 00:19:26
Steve (#78), spot on. Just a difference in terminology... you say left forward, I say left wing, but yes, that will be Richarlison's spot to lose.

Regarding Moutinho, my hunch is that Wolves are gambling that his dropoff last season was more about that nagging ankle injury than an overall decline. He did that ankle last summer for the second time in a year.

Yeah, he's almost 32, but he may still have something left... seems like a decent punt, as you lads would say.

Steve Ferns
92 Posted 24/07/2018 at 00:27:37
Don, don't mistake favourites with being the best mate. My all time favourite Everton player is probably Anders Limpar, but ask me on a different day and I'll say big Nev. Limpar certainly wasn't the best, but he was in his pomp when I was 16 and he played in my position and had a swagger about him I really liked.

Joao Moutinho isn't better than Xavi, who is the master of his position, but is someone I just really liked. He's also from the Algarve. Some players just grab you, for some reason, and you just really like them. Moutinho is one of them for me.

And yeah Mike, it's important to stress that whilst Allardyce had Everton visibly defending with a line of five across the middle, Silva's 4-2-3-1 will defend in a 4-3-3 shape with the two wide men ahead of the line of the middle three, we saw Dowell dropping into that three when we were defending last night.

As for Moutinho recovering, I hope so, but he does look too lightweight right now.

Gavin Johnson
93 Posted 24/07/2018 at 01:32:26
Personally, I'm excited about this signing. I grumbled on Friday about the fee but it's looking like £40M and while still a little steep, it is much more palatable than £50M.
Jimmy Digney
94 Posted 24/07/2018 at 02:31:12
What do big clubs do?
Brendan Woods
95 Posted 24/07/2018 at 05:25:31
I think we need to relax about the inflated fee, Watford's compensation claim re: Silva will magically disappear after pay overs for big Richie.

I believe the tail off in his form later in the season was blamed on the Brazilian schedule leading right into his move to the Premier League so he hadn't had any off-season time off in a year and a half or something ridiculous like that. I'm optimistic that he'll be a good addition.

Digne too, I've seen him play during his Roma stint and really rated him, I think he's ideal for our needs – someone that can push Baines, adequately fill in as often as needed and make the role his own by the end of this season pushing into next season.

Victor Yu
96 Posted 24/07/2018 at 06:14:12
Surely that will be it for Lookman?

I don't see how he can get into the team this year (I doubt he would want to warm the bench after doing well in Germany last year).

Alan J Thompson
97 Posted 24/07/2018 at 06:48:20
Interesting that Richarlison tired after 10 games as he had played a full Brazilian season then straight into Watford's side. It doesn't really matter how true that is but I believe the Qatar WC Finals are to be held in November, 2022. Doing away with FA Cup replays might help but it looks as though there won't be any European style mid-winter break.

Oh, a Brazilian Special with Fried Rice, is that the one you always find a hair in?

Jerome Shields
98 Posted 24/07/2018 at 06:48:57
I still think Everton have two problems:

1. Everton is not seen as a destination for quality players;

2. The contracts that were agreed with the existing squad in some cases are a barrier to Everton progressing.

Lenny Kingman
99 Posted 24/07/2018 at 07:34:02
The first part of his name will certainly apply to him personally. Hopefully he can make us rich on the pitch too, and not turn into that charli bit.

Brazilians in blue will always be given a warm welcome at Goodison. Legendary status may await for this big South American. Need a few more quality purchases first though.

Simon Smith
100 Posted 24/07/2018 at 08:41:16
Fee is irrelevant...
Does it affect us? No!
Is he a young, exciting, skilful player that has proved that he can cope with the premier league? Yes!!!
He will be awesome for us. Having Richarlison, Walcott and Tosun is a huge improvement on what we started last season with!
Hugh Jenkins
101 Posted 24/07/2018 at 09:22:25
Gary Carter (32)

Gary Carter - Job's comforter - LOL

Paul Mackay
102 Posted 24/07/2018 at 09:58:19
Just seen his highlights reel on you tube. It wasn’t that great! Potential sums it up.
Jay Harris
103 Posted 24/07/2018 at 10:25:07
For all the positive posts about him I'm not sure he is better than DCL.

I watched him miss 3 or 4 sitters against Chelsea last season when Watford were hammering Chelsea but somehow managed to lose the game.

Reminded me of when they somehow managed to lose 3-2 to us.

I hope I am wrong about Silva and Richarlison but nothing I have seen to date convinces me.

Mark Taylor
104 Posted 24/07/2018 at 10:30:18
While I'm happy to give Richarlison the benefit of the doubt and believe in Silva's judgement until evidence exists to the contrary, I'm less impressed by the argument that fees are inflated by Neymar etc so we should have to put up with spending £40m plus on a largely unproven player.

That only makes sense if our revenues are commensurately inflated or we have an owner with unusually deep pockets and ideally, a pet sponsor willing to overpay a la City. But we do not. Our revenue is not 'inflating'.

Nor does the argument that this does not affect us fans because it is not our money. Maybe not, but we will certainly be affected of we do end up over stretching our finances. There is a long list of formerly great clubs who have gone down the plughole and I don't want Everton to join them. All of us have a vested interest in our owner getting bangs for his buck.

Kevin Gillen
105 Posted 24/07/2018 at 10:32:47
In my book this is a great signing and a very positive step forward. This lad has been touted as the next kid likely to be a big noise with a top six club. I hope he makes a big impression. Congratulations to Everton for going for him. I think it spells the end for a number of others mind. I am really impressed that we haven't waited until the last minute or until we have sold some of the obvious players surplus to requirement. One or two more and I'll be very happy.
Mike Benjamin
106 Posted 24/07/2018 at 10:44:51
The lad has got qualities that we don’t have elsewhere in the squad, left footed with pace and tries to beat a man. Constantly last season we were all saying how unbalanced we were with little on the left. This signing will solve that which will give extra space for whoever plays on the right. Even if Lookman stays he is not a lefty. Personally I would like to see him given a go through the middle so with Walcott on the right we would have pace and pitch. On a separate note, the Daily Mail are reporting that Usmanov is looking to sell his stake in Arsenal, now that is an interesting development.
Nicholas Ryan
107 Posted 24/07/2018 at 11:16:09
One of my colleagues at work is an avid Wolves fan [season-ticket holder]. I asked him the simple question: 'Will Wolves finish above Everton this season? 'No' he replied, both swiftly and emphatically! There you have it!
Drew O'Neall
108 Posted 24/07/2018 at 11:20:22
My concern here is Everton pay their record transfer fee on a player who’s motivation appears to be in direct relation to Marco Silva’s job satisfaction.
Mike Gaynes
109 Posted 24/07/2018 at 11:30:52
Mike #106, sorry to disappoint you but Richarlison is NOT left-footed.

He's a right-footed left forward, like Lookman and Mirallas.

Steve Ferns
110 Posted 24/07/2018 at 11:57:01
Mike, dunno if you've also been studying him carefully. He is very right footed as you say. For Fluminese, he appears to have played across the forward line as he is popping up in the middle, on the right and on the left.

What I see is a very quick player, very skilful with the ball at his feet and able to beat a man and cause havoc in defence.

What I also notice though is he seems to be a one trick pony. Similar to Mirallas, he loves to run at the right back one-on-one and always cuts inside onto his favoured right foot. He does this everytime in the videos I've seen. Like Mirallas, he never goes outside, and then he does, he does a little trick to cut back inside on his right. So, I've not seen one attempted cross with his left.

He also seems to be quite individual, in that he's got the ball and he's going direct for goal, and he's drawing players to him. Now when a certain no8 used to do this for us, he had the ability (which sure he didn't always do) to play a pass through the defenders and create goals for others. This is something we would need Ricarlison to work on, getting in the final third, running at players, drawing the defence to him, but then being able to play the striker through on goal.

And I am sure, from what I have seen, that he is very capable of being a number 9. The problem for 9s is that they are very back to goal, limited space to run into and so a lot of his game is lost. If he drops deeper, from a wide position, then he has a lot of space to race into, and that's why he plays wide, he plays on the left, so he can cut inside and then has his right foot to get a great angle on goal.

Something else that is of great interest is that most of his dribbles end the same way. That is he beats a man, sometimes two, but it's cut short as someone else clatters him. Most of the stuff on YouTube is him running at speed, amongst 3 or 4 guys, and beating a couple of them as someone desperately fouls him.

You see where I am going with this, he will win us a lot of free kicks on the edge of the box on the left side, 30 yards or so from goal. Yes, Sigurdsson territory.

Michael Lynch
111 Posted 24/07/2018 at 12:04:13
So we're paying £40m to replace Mirallas?
John Daley
112 Posted 24/07/2018 at 12:05:52
My memory may be a little hazy but I find it hard to believe Richarlison 'starred' in the under 20 World Cup when Brazil failed to even qualify.

As for him 'shining' in the Premier League last season and bringing quality/goals/assists in the final third? The arl arse that we just binned off to America scored over twice as many despite blowing chunks like an ale house arrow-chucker and creaking about in defensive midfield for half a season. The oft criticised Niasse and Calvert-Lewin both out scored him. Tosun equalled his total despite starting only 12 games and receiving less service than Bobby Sands.

People are talking about the lad like he possesses bags of skill, vision and is prone to looking up more than that white suited little fucker off Fantasy Island who used to point and squel "The Plane! The Plane!", when, previously, he's played more like a permanently head down pygmy hog with a bit of pace. His decision making has been absolutely terrible nearly every time I have seen him and his initial, brief, period of decent form came to a shuddering halt well before Silva left Watford.

He is going to need to seriously step up all aspects of his game, to levels he has never previously looked like attaining, to justify the ludicrous fee being reported.

That's a hell of a lot of pressure to heap on the shoulders of any player, never mind one of tender years who, when taken off against Chelsea six months ago, had more wet tears rolling down his cheeks while slumped on the bench than Ron Burgundy after some scrote wellied Baxter off a bridge.

Amit Vithlani
113 Posted 24/07/2018 at 12:25:42
John’s post - a comeback one hopes!?
Tom Bowers
114 Posted 24/07/2018 at 12:30:00
I think all those who are at the club this season need to prove themselves and that includes Silva.
People like Lookman and Davies who burst on to the scene have yet to prove they are consistent enough at the Prem. level.

Others still hanging around like Bolasie and Mirallas have shown little or nothing in the last season or so although Bolasie was getting over injury.

Peter Mills
115 Posted 24/07/2018 at 12:36:15
John#112, next time I need some chips urinating upon I’ll give you a shout!
Steve Ferns
116 Posted 24/07/2018 at 12:46:28
What comeback is needed Amit?

We cannot buy a world class player. Richarlison is a poor-man's Neymar. But even Neymar has a long list of flaws, and where we signing him people would be readily pointing them out.

I highlighted some flaws with Richarlison myself. The fact of the matter is we need someone on the left. We have Bolasie, Calvert-Lewin, Mirallas, Sigurdsson and Lookman who all figured at varying stages on the left last season. If we talk about actual ability right now, then none of them are good enough for us to take the next step to 6th, and I don't think they are good enough (as first team players) for us to get 7th.

Is Malcom a better bet? Well maybe so, maybe not. I could give you a list of issues with him too. Who else then? Some good names have been mentioned, but again they are not the top level player we want to get us to 6th or better.

So we need to sign someone young and full of potential. John D doubts Richarilson has that potential. Fair enough, John might be downbeat, but he's an astute guy, and his observations are warranted. However, I think Silva is best placed to be the judge of his potential.

This signing is massive to us, but it's massive to Silva. He knows how much is in the transfer pot. We suspect that it's not much and maybe £50m is half of it, gone on one player. Would Silva really waste half of it on Richarlison if he did not think he was good enough now, and for the next 3-5 years that he envisages managing us for? Brands is said to have rated him in his PSV days, so they both appear to agree here.

Is John right the fee is ludicrous. Sure, he's not exaggerating. It's more than an eyebrow raiser. But, we have to let the new manager have this one, and he has to get it right.

Marc Hints
117 Posted 24/07/2018 at 12:53:43
why is it taking so long to sign him?
Geoff Lambert
118 Posted 24/07/2018 at 12:59:06
Marc. Because it's Everton !
Duncan McDine
119 Posted 24/07/2018 at 13:00:21
John Daley - posts like that are part of the reason why I can’t drop this bad habit of checking TW every day! Nuff respek for the Anchorman reference
Iain Johnston
120 Posted 24/07/2018 at 13:10:12
Steve, Malcom signed for Roma yesterday.

I was hoping there was more to that one as I think we're desperate for a few decent left footers in all areas.

Rob Halligan
121 Posted 24/07/2018 at 13:11:10
Here's one to shock you all. Everton allegedly linked with Lukaku

https://www.footballfancast.com/premier-league/everton/lukaku-could-be-the-perfect-long-term-replacement-for-baines-at-everton

Danny Halsall
122 Posted 24/07/2018 at 13:14:34
How long does it take for the club to announce a signing. My word, I’m sure it is the same for all fans but always feels like it takes us longer than every other club!
Steve Ferns
123 Posted 24/07/2018 at 13:20:59
Iain, Malcom is right footed, and primarily played on the right. Edit: He also appears to be about to sign for Barcelona now, and not Roma!

The players out wide are not quite as wide as you might think. Walcott is a perfect example. He loves to play up top, and I think we'll see him be a lot more central, and then the width on the right will be from Coleman, who will be outside of him.

If you think of the pitch in lanes, with the outside lanes on the flanks, and the central lane for the solo central striker, then a lane between the fullbacks and the central defenders then that's five lanes. Usually the wingers and the fullbacks operate in the same lane, and the fullback overlaps. Silva has the wide forwards operating in this lane between the fullback and the central defender, meaning there is room for Coleman to get past Walcott. It is actually encouraged.

This means, don't worry about the lack of a left foot on Richarlison, he should have Baines or Digne or whoever getting past on the outside and providing the extra width and the left foot needed to get the ball across. This is why I had initial doubts over Baines' ability to get up and down. He's shrugged off those fears by looking extremely fit in pre-season (although he took a knock against Porto), the doubts over his injury-proneness will continue though.

Iain Johnston
124 Posted 24/07/2018 at 13:46:10
Sorry Steve I beg to differ, even Girondins own website has him as a lefty.

I suppose in some ways it's a bit similar to an advanced inside right or left position giving the player the opportunity to move further inside or a little wider?

It was mentioned during our initial link to Malcom that he maybe looking at creating a bit of a bidding war with the Italians.

Steve Ferns
125 Posted 24/07/2018 at 13:51:34
Iain, he appear right footed to me, he plays on the right wing and moves the ball with his right. He does hit shots with both left and right, so I bet he's proficient with either peg. Due to his proficiency with his left, I was expecting him to play on the left wing.

If it turns out he is actually left footed and prefers to play right wing to cut in on his left, then pushing him to left wing wouldn't have worked, as he clearly wants to play on the right. The only way we would have made things work would have then been to convince Walcott to go over to the left instead.

There was mention in the Echo that we were never really in for him, so maybe it was all agent driven to secure this move.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

126 Posted 24/07/2018 at 14:02:36
Given Richarlison's very public medical in the city yesterday, I think it's reasonable to conclude that this is a done deal and the lad is going to sign.

John @ 112 expresses some of the disquiet I have about this deal.

John rightly corrects those claiming the player shone at the FIFA U-20 WC last year which England won: Brazil didn't even qualify.

I have written elsewhere that my brother-in-law follows Fluminese and so I keep half an eye on them. Before Richarlison's move to Watford I have no recall of him at Fluminese. None. Not a single minute. He just did not register on my radar as a player at all in his brief 1.5 seasons with Fluminese.

Yes, his YouTube reel shows some nice goals, but - remembering YT videos pick out the very best of a player - how much of the reel is taken up with the player starting mazy runs from the half-way line, only to fall over, be fouled or shut out without any end product?

Yes, apparently he initially 'wowed' UK audiences in his first dozen games. I wouldn't know. I don't make a point of watching Watford. The only game in the UK I've seen him play in was in the roller-coaster 3-2 game at Goodison in which he scored and played well. Thereafter, as widely acknowledged, his form fell off a cliff.

I went to a 'do' here in Brazil on Sunday and asked several of the gathering about their views on the two Brazilian players we were linked to during the week, Malcolm and Richarlison. The former is viewed as someone who will naturally progress to Brazil's national team in the coming years; the response to Richarlison was 'quem?' - 'who?!'

My disquiet on this deal is two-fold:

1) Malcolm is a player who first broke into a strong Corinthian side at 17. At 18 he was a near regular as they ran away with the Brazilian title in a record-breaking points tally. At 19 he moved several thousand kms to Bordeaux to an alien culture and environment and wasn't daunted or fazed by that. He has stepped up, performed consistently and met every challenge thrown at him in his young career. Richarlison's career projectory doesn't come close to Malcolm's.

2) Malcolm looks to have gone to Roma for £32 million. The numbers for Richarlison vary from £30-40-50 million. The first is proven quality. The second is barely displayed potential. I know which I would have preferred to take a punt on.

I endorsed the summer shake-up at the club in all aspects. I expected a more level-headed and less exuberant 'throwing of the cash' on player recruitment. So I am genuinely puzzled as to why Brands and Silva are making Richarlison the first high profile - and very expensive - transfer they broker.

Because in spite of the claims by some, there are better deals being concluded for considerably lesser prices of proven footballers, rather than on mere 'potential' based on barely a dozen games.

Steve Ferns
127 Posted 24/07/2018 at 14:09:24
Good post Jay. Malcom is set for Barcelona though.
Denis Richardson
128 Posted 24/07/2018 at 14:47:19
Erm - he signed yet? Thought the medical was over and pen to paper was going to happen this morning.

Good post Jay - can't say I'm convinced he's a £40m odd player. Also, as you point out, Brandts was/is supposed to be in charge of recruitment which would hopefully mean recruiting new/fresh relatively unknown gems to the club. Making the first headline signing being someone from the previous managers club just seems odd, if not also a little lazy.

Early days admittedly and I look forward to Richarlison being in the team, just wished we hadn't/didn't spend so much on him. At least if he performs we'll get our money back, unlike Klaason, Bolasie and Schneiderlin,

Marc Hints
129 Posted 24/07/2018 at 14:57:30
oh yes thanks Geoff :)
Mike Benjamin
130 Posted 24/07/2018 at 15:21:10
Mike#109 and Steve #110. Actually he is comfortable with both feet, e.g goal with West Ham and assist v Newcastle. so can go either way, which is even better
Bill Griffiths
131 Posted 24/07/2018 at 15:31:40
Denis(#128), I read somewhere that Brandt's tried to sign him when he was at PSV so not such surprise.
Derek Taylor
132 Posted 24/07/2018 at 15:40:52
Mike @130. He may be able 'to go either way' but 5 goals and 5 assists in 38 games for Watford tells me he doesn't do it very often !
William Cartwright
133 Posted 24/07/2018 at 15:54:32
Well he's passed the medical . . . . . Wonder what BK thinks of that . . . . .
William Cartwright
134 Posted 24/07/2018 at 15:54:32
Well he's passed the medical . . . . . Wonder what BK thinks of that . . . . .
Derek Taylor
135 Posted 24/07/2018 at 15:55:29
Kenwright is taking his time to put this one to bed. Although hints in some quarters that clubs can't agree on timing of stage payments. Nothing changes !
John Pickles
136 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:00:17
Is there anyone nearby who can pop in and lend them a biro, they must have lost the one they do the signing with.
John Kavanagh
137 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:12:22
Still no announcement of signing. Maybe Watford are having a last minute try-on for another £10 million from the biggest mug punters in football. The one thing we desperately need is a player of quality and consistency, not the occasional YouTube special. It is Richarlison's drop off in form for Watford that concerns me even more than the grossly inflated fee for a player worth £20-£25 million tops; even in today's inflated market.

I hope I'm wrong but Richarlison's stats scream inconsistency and lack of heart. Although this means he will shoe-in perfectly in our present spineless squad, I fear we could be spending £40 million plus on the Brazilian Marcus Bent. Praying I'm wrong and that Silva is right. Otherwise we will be the new Leeds quicker than you can say "Championship".

Clive Rogers
138 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:18:42
I’m not sure Kenwright is involved in transfers anymore. Get the impression it comes under Brands now.
Derek Knox
139 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:27:44
John@137, I tend to share your trepidation about Richarlison, in the times I have seen him he has looked good, without being spectacular.

Nothing however to suggest the fee being talked about, even if you take the lowest ones (£35M) to me, it still represents a hell of a gamble.

Maybe, he will play better in the months to come, someone mentioned that after seeing him play, he tends to have the same M.O. and can be easily countered and nullified.

I hope for that sort of fee we all wrong, and he proves it, but only time will tell.

Mike Benjamin
140 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:28:35
derek#132. A lot better than what we already have. How many of our players last year got 5 goals and 5 assists?
Rob Halligan
141 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:34:43
Haven't we, in the past, tended to announce transfers late afternoon? If so, expect an announcement at 6pm.
Ed Fitzgerald
142 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:36:47
Mike@140

DCL has 5 goals and 6 assists in 43 games

Steve Ferns
143 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:40:12
Ed 8 goals, 7 assists in 44 games, if you count PL, FAC, LC and EL.

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dominic-calvert-lewin/leistungsdaten/spieler/306024/plus/0?saison=2017

Denis Richardson
144 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:40:35
Mike 140 - how many of our players cost us £40m.

Even Niasse got more goals.

Denis Richardson
145 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:45:32
Bill 131 - hope that’s true, otherwise not sure what Brandt is being paid for. He must have research on dozens of players so doesnt need to start from scratch.

18 days to go till KO and still no new defensive signing Baines, Jags, Keane and Coleman it’s looking like in back 4 come 11th August. Worrying.

Hope Keane rediscovers his Burnley form and not his Everton form.

Amit Vithlani
146 Posted 24/07/2018 at 16:52:00
Steve @ 116. My hope for a “comeback” was...literally a coming back by John (not comeback as in hoping for a “retort”). John had not posted for a while, and I was hoping he was back posting regularly.
Mike Benjamin
147 Posted 24/07/2018 at 17:23:22
Ed@142 and Steve@143. So relatively speaking on goals and assists DCL was on a par with him. What would we get for DCL? Denis@144 - Sigurdsson and given what we paid for Klassen and his contribution, then £35-£40 would be a snip. Why don’t we trust the judgement of the new manager to put a team together that will at least entertain us more than last season, or the one before that and so on.
Len Hawkins
148 Posted 24/07/2018 at 17:37:25
Imagine yer Ma knew this bloke and she called him Uncle Marco and Uncle Marco said to you don't worry lad I'll see you right for work. So good as his word Uncle Marco nips round on his way home from work to tell you be there at 08:00 in the morning (don't sweat kids I know 08:00 is in the middle of the night but you'll get a 09:00 start) and there he is to meet you. You work with Uncle Marco for a few months when Uncle Marco gets offered a job 200 miles away and off he pops so you've got a gob on yer Ma's got a gob on the only feller happy is yer owl man. You lose interest in your job and long to be back with Uncle Marco and yer Ma can come and stay and see uncle Marco again, then Uncle Marco gives you a bell come on I've got you a new job oop north your happy yer Ma is happy uncle Marco is happy the only one not happy is yer owl man. Your dreams come true you are back with Uncle Marco and yer Ma is shopping for new lingerie. The End.
Jimmy Hogan
149 Posted 24/07/2018 at 17:38:23
Amit, #146. Holiday?
Steve Ferns
150 Posted 24/07/2018 at 17:44:04
Len, you've brought a smile to my face on what has been a very dark day for me. Thanks so much for that.

Amit meant John, Jimmy. And I agree. I don't always see eye-toe-eye with John. But he is an astute observer of the game, sees things from a different view to myself, and makes me think again. I enjoy those kind of posts.

Peter Warren
151 Posted 24/07/2018 at 17:45:21
I’m just not that excited, whilst his teammate Dacoure always struck me a excellent. Obviously Silva and Brands think otherwise and are much more qualified than I (although I think I could have down better than the last couple of management teams!)
Terry Smith
152 Posted 24/07/2018 at 17:49:10
Just seen Malcolm has agreed to join Barcelona. Which looks like Mina will be pushed out due to the rules of non EU players. I hope we can get him in at the back.
Julian Exshaw
154 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:01:08
The official announcement of the signing is dragging on a bit, isn't it? Does anyone smell a rat?
Michael Lynch
155 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:02:57
The other good news about Barca nabbing Malcom is that it will shut up those dozy RS who keep banging on about how hilarious it is that them buying the second-rate goalie Allison for stupid amounts of money allowed Roma to stop us buying Malcom ha ha etc etc.

Tony Everan
156 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:03:26
Why can't we ever get a signing over the line without any stress? It's all been supposedly done and dusted since the weekend – he had his medical yesterday lunchtime, and still nothing.

Are we getting screwed for another couple of mill? Watford's owners making us squirm? Player demanding free Ocadoes for the duration?

Something must be going on behind the scenes, it just ain't normal.


Gary Carter
157 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:10:52
I see Malcom has gone to Barcelona.

I wonder if we really did try and get him or it was just journo pie in the sky???

Dermot Byrne
158 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:21:54
Is it just us or do all fans listen to rumours and think our club is pissing around getting a deal over the line?

I think it is probably the same for all fans out of top 6... and maybe same for them too.

Brian Wilkinson
159 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:23:48
One consolation guys, after all the mocking of our neighbours giving money to Roma to buy Malcolm, nice to see he has agreed a deal with Barcelona instead.

Our time will come if we get Ustinov and the new ground.

Hope I am still on this earth if and when it happens.

Rob Halligan
160 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:32:29
Completed!!!
Terry Smith
161 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:34:17
Jim White tweeting that it's all done on a 5-year deal.
Roger Sunde
162 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:36:09
Well, since he's Brazilian, there's probably a work permit that needs to get accepted.

They'll probably announce him when they get that sorted.

Denis Richardson
163 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:41:45
Mike 147 - listing Sigurdsson on his own is out of context.

Re the new manager, I'm not going to put my trust in anyone until they've actually proved themselves. Why should I trust Silva and expect he'll be a success when he's won fuck all to date? Right now I'm neutral and simply hope things get better. However, none of Silvas recent premiership managerial history point to the fact he's suddenly going to pull up trees at Everton. I put my trust in Koeman, someone who had actually won major honours before, and look where that got me.

Martinez was a bullshitter and crap, Koeman faded (not replacing Lukaku and signing Rooney obviously had a major impact). Less said about Allardyce the better – embarrassing 6 months of the clubs history. 5 years and 3 managers since Moyes who each haven't worked out. Nope, not trusting anyone until they've actually done something.

I really don't understand the blind faith some people have in Silva. I truly hope he takes us places but I'll wait and see before making a judgement.

Mike Gaynes
164 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:42:16
Brian, Ustinov passed on some years ago. Great actor.
Steve Ferns
165 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:42:21
You know it'll be a 5-year deal just so we can spread the fee over the life of the contract. Giving 5-year deals everytime is what got us into this wage bill mess!
Brian Williams
166 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:46:18
Dermot (#158).
It's EXACTLY the same with all clubs mate. When I worked away, I had mates from just about every club in the Premier League and the Scottish Premier League and they ALL went on fansites that slagged their own club off, right, left and centre.
Negativity is NOT unique to Evertonians, let alone ToffeeWeb.


Amit Vithlani
167 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:50:19
Mike at 164, I see you are a man after my own tastes. I much preferred Ustinov's version of Hercule Poirot to that played by David Suchet.

I also love this quote from him:

"If the world should blow itself up, the last audible voice would be that of an expert saying it can't be done."

Steve Ferns
168 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:50:59
Denis what exactly had Koeman won that Silva hadn't?

Is there a magic line that separates winning the Dutch league from winning the Greek league, so one counts and one doesn't? Isn't the Portuguese league above the Dutch league in the co-efficient? if it is (can't be bothered looking it up) then Silva won a trophy there too.

Regardless, I'm sure Silva will win you round. I prefer to give every manager my trust until he does something (at Everton) for me not to trust him. Even Allardyce, albeit through gritted teeth.

It's Everton, we all want Everton to do well. That means being the 12th man and all that. I'm sure everyone through the turnstile at Molyneux will be behind the team, and of course everyone at Goodison for the Saints game.

I didn't want us to sign Sigurdsson, especially at the expense of losing Barkley, for that astronomical fee and I don't want us to splash £40-50m on this lad. It seems far too much. But, I will certainly enjoy what he brings to the squad, just as I enjoy watching Sigurdsson do his thing.

Dermot Byrne
169 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:52:23
Thank god, Brian!
Brian Wilkinson
170 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:52:28
Mike @64, love it – easy typo: Usmanov has billions; the other did the voice of Dr Snuggles, among films as well; easy mistake.
Mike Gaynes
171 Posted 24/07/2018 at 18:55:45
Had to tease that one, Brian.

Amit, actually my favorite Poirot was Albert Finney in Orient Express, but Ustinov was classy as well.

Bit of bad news, gents... L'Equipe reports that Lyon may pip us for Mina. He reportedly wants Champions League footy and is willing to take less money to get it.

Robert Leigh
172 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:07:37
Anyone else think we are announcing three at once? This is taking an age so wouldn’t be surprised to see Mina and Digne at he same time
Daniel A Johnson
173 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:09:16
Beginning to think that this guy's medical involves him jogging from Vicarage Road to Goodison Park.
Mike Benjamin
174 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:10:45
Not blind faith, Denis (#163), just faith. What exactly is the alternative? He has been appointed our manager for the forseeable.
Darren Hind
175 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:12:09
JD @112

Where the fuck have you been, lad?

Jon Withey
176 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:16:07
Sky Sports saying Richarlison done.
Jay Harris
177 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:29:38
It's a done deal and boy have we been done.

£30 to 40M for someone who is yet to put his marker down in football.

Usmanov must be on his way, the way we are throwing money around.

Dermot Byrne
178 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:34:17
Bloody bloody something.

Welcome young overpaid lad.

Jimmy Hogan
179 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:48:27

I think he stopped trying because Silva knew he was coming to Everton from day one. He was angry at Watford for setting too high a price. And the new coach was an inferior coach to Silva.
Brian Wilkinson
180 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:49:57
At least the money is being splashed out now for a change, none of this trying to save a couple of bob and losing out on a deal.

Gone are the Days when we offered a lower bid, after a players club had already accepted a higher bid.

Gone are the Days when Bill attended the players medical, stood on his foot then said look he’s limping scrap the deal ( ok I made that one up)

It is not our money, only time will tell if we have been ripped off or not, but let’s not worry about Moshi splashing the cash, makes a change having some money to spend.

John Kavanagh
181 Posted 24/07/2018 at 19:52:46
We have been absolutely screwed. I feel like letting down the tyres on the Watford board's caravans in revenge. Anyway, best of luck to Richarlison and I hope you earn every penny of your transfer fee.
Joe McMahon
182 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:04:47
Is it correct that Watford paid just £11 million for him last year?
Mike Gaynes
183 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:07:13
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11447594/everton-complete-deal-to-sign-richarlison-from-watford-on-five-year-deal
Derek Taylor
184 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:11:58
Brian @180 : 'Moshiri splashing the cash' implies it's his to splash. In truth it's the Club's money he's spending and there will be a day of reckoning. There always is.
Jimmy Hogan
185 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:15:56
Now on the OS...
Paul Tran
186 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:16:38
The video's on Twitter. He's ours. Now who's next?
Brian Murray
187 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:17:26
He maybe a signing as inspirational as Andy Gray but Marco and Co can dress it up all they like.... When your vision is as big as your ex-player, it's a terrible lazy signing. But good luck, Ricky — prove us totally wrong.
Jimmy Hogan
188 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:17:54
Sorry. I meant Lyndon has confirmed it.
Derek Knox
189 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:18:59
Joe@182, that is correct, or possibly £11.5M, what a bargain we've had, wait a minute, where's that calculator? 😮
Brian Harrison
190 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:22:56
Joe 182

Yes Watford paid Flumenese £11 million for Richarlison, just like we paid Barnsley £3 million for Stones and sold him for £50 million, bought Lescott for £4.6 million and sold him for £24 million.

It's called talent spotting small clubs take a chance on a player he becomes successful and a rich club gives you 10 or 15 times more than you paid for him. This has been going on for decades and I tell you in 10 years the £500 million player will be bought.

Mind, look on the bright side: we could have bought a 33-year-old for £102 million and give him a 4 year contract at £26.5 million a year.

Joe McMahon
191 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:31:48
Brian (#190), yes, that's is another way of looking at it. But we undersold Lukaku by several million, and took back Rooney on £150k per week. Then paid £45M on Sigurdsson, £25M on Keane, £25M on Klaassen. Add to that the crazy wages we are paying this overpriced crap. We also lost out on £10M selling Ross just a few months later.

Using Ronaldo as an example isn't really the same, Juventus have already sold more Ronaldo shirts than Everton would shift in years.

Derek Knox
192 Posted 24/07/2018 at 20:33:55
Hope he's brought his boots with him. Will he be eligible to play against Blackburn?

If yes, maybe we can get an idea of what he brings to the table.

Glad we have made a significant signing, with more to follow, left-back and centre-back?

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