Digne completes Everton transfer from Barcelona

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Updated Lucas Digne's move from Barcelona to Everton was finally announced today after he signed a five-year deal with the club.

A fee, reported to be worth around £20m, is believed to have been agreed with the Spanish club a few days ago and the 25-year-old used the time to mull over a decision between regular football at Everton and the prospect of playing second string at the Nou Camp.

Having been left out of their International Champions Cup game against Tottenham, Digne was given permission by Barcelona to fly out from Los Angeles on Sunday and he underwent a medical yesterday and finalised personal terms at Finch Farm today.

Digne will wear the number 12 vacated by Aaron Lennon last season and will provide long overdue competition for Leighton Baines at left back, although he is also capable of playing on the left side of central defence.

The fullback wrote a heartfelt thank you to the club he will be leaving for his two seasons there, describing his move to Barça as being "a dream of a child".

He wrote: "I want to say thank very much first to the club that has given me everything since I arrived ... the City of Barcelona, that will always stay with me, for I have l lived and for people who are amazing at all times. And last my companions that before being the best players in the world are amazing people who help you always."

A one-time team-mate of Idrissa Gueye at Lille where he began his career, Digne was signed by Paris St Germain in 2013. He played 29 times for them over the next two seasons before being loaned to Roma for a season where he attracted the attention of Barcelona.

The Blaugrana acquired him in a £13.8 million deal in 2016 whereupon Digne signed a five-year contract and made another 29 appearances over the following couple of years.

Capped 21 times by his country, he was on the standby list for France's ultimately victorious 2018 World Cup squad.  


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Colin Glassar
1 Posted 30/07/2018 at 07:51:27
Could this mean Bainsey moving up as a wing back and this lad part of a back 3?
Marc Hints
2 Posted 30/07/2018 at 07:54:56
Fantastic signing, let's hope now we get a decent centre-back and a quality midfield player and with Lookman and Walcott back for Wolves hopefully be a better team. My team for Wolves assuming we don't sign anymore than a new centre back.

Pickford
Colman Keane [New Centre Back] Digne
Gueye Davies Sigurdsson
Lookman Tuson Richarlison

Dermot Byrne
3 Posted 30/07/2018 at 07:56:03
He would be worth a couple of quid just to occasionally adopt the stance on the picture! I could hear Jags asking "What's up Lucas?"
Jerome Shields
4 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:03:15
Good. Now we need Mina and Tierney.
Jim Bennings
5 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:04:30
I very much doubt it Colin.

Baines will probably play fewer games this season now, the body can’t take a toll of 30-38 games anymore.

Now we just need to hurry up and conclude the Mina deal.

Mark Tanton
6 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:05:01
Silva and Brands seem to have an idea who they want and what their role will be. Not like Koeman and Walsh’s Brewster’s Millions approach. Full backs are so crucial to SIlva, both in attacking play and defending.
John McGimpsey
7 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:08:37
Any team with Davies near is certain for doom. I think Digne will and should come straight in, Leighton is finished defensivley I think.

Why are these transfers taking so long is a mystery, but that's Everton, I suppose.

Michael Morgan
8 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:25:57
I'd like us to try this:

Pickford
Coleman Mina Keane Digne
Gueye Sigurdsson
Walcott Lookman Richarlison
Tosun

Subs:

Stekelenberg
Kenny
Holgate
Davies
Vlasic
Calvert-Lewin
Niasse


Mike Kehoe
9 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:26:08
Hopefully the good work will continue and more quality signings will follow and reassure those who appear to be panicking about getting twatted in friendlies and bemoaning the sacking of Lardiola: that his tenure was cruelly cut short before he could deliver his vision.

The fact is he had no vision beyond a defensive setup and working on set pieces. Silva has a style and philosophy that will improve the players but will require some time and patience so please lets not have any more "come back Sam all is forgiven" shite.

The size of the task of sorting out this foul shambles left behind from Koeman and Allardyce is epic and moving on Klaassen swiftly and at not too much of a loss smacks of competence, very much a stranger to these parts in recent times. If they can now get rid of Williams and Schneiderlin, I will be delighted.

In the darkest days of Allardyce's tenure, when we shipping 5 in London and gifting points to Burnley after getting out foxed by Dyche, many of the more sage TWs were desperate for better and realised the scale of the problem: it is obviously going to take time, money and savvy.

Allardyce would have delivered a team that would survive the premier league: of this I have no doubt. It would however have been an embarrassment playing anti-football with a team full of expensive mercenaries with a manager with zero respect for the fans or club.

Before the start of the Premier League era Everton were more successful than Man Utd. I remember Everton winning everything and being feared, regularly winning derbies in style. To get anywhere near that again will take a near perfect storm of fortunes and hard work.

We've had so many false dawns of late but two quality signings is a good way to start. More to come please.

Paul Mackay
10 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:29:22
I think this guy could be first choice with Baines as back up not the other way round as is being reported, why else would he want to come unless he has been given some reassurances around game time.
Andy Williams
12 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:43:17
Let's hope it's today so all the clickbait on NewsNow can stop luring me into another story about him nearly signing.

By the way, does anybody know why Holgate hasn't been playing?

Jim Bailey
13 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:43:30
Good signing by all accounts. Just as important for me though is who we offload. I can't wait to see the back of Schneiderlin and Mirallas.
Iain Love
15 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:48:15
At last a new left back, 2 seasons too late mind.

Mina and Zouma next would be nice, then a Loftus-Cheek as the cherry on the top.

Christine Foster
16 Posted 30/07/2018 at 08:54:19
Mike Kehoe (#9),

As painful as it was, Allardyce did what was asked of him got paid off and is gone. But his observations on the squad were spot on.. it was the legacy of Koeman that Silva is dealing with, Allardyce just worked with what he had. Silva is planning for a squad in his vision rather than a disaster recovery plan!

Truth is, both Allardyce and Silva inherited a shambles of a squad but its Silva who is rebuilding a team. Thank goodness because whilst Allardyce can be called pragmatic (dour) Silva is more charismatic and adventurous..

To those calling for Allardyce to return? No.. sorry.. he did what he does best because we were in the worst state I have ever scene my club on the pitch, but once out of danger we move on.. so should everyone.

Victor Yu
17 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:00:34
Martinez had a plan to move Baines to the DM role. Would it still be an option?
Mark Tanton
18 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:03:37
Here is the sentimentality creeping in again - no Baines should not remain first choice left back, he should make way for the younger man.

And no, he is not a central midfielder either, let's stop bending over backwards to accommodate him shall we? Phase him out.

Jagielka for the knacker's too please. Imagine if we had had Gerrard and not Liverpool – he'd be a 40-year-old goalkeeper.

Drew O'Neall
19 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:05:45
I wonder if the urgency around replacing Baines, who in the scheme of where our squad needs most attention is actually not first priority (it is probably second or third to be fair), is because we have an exit route planned ie the mooted MLS offer from earlier in the summer.

If Baines doesn’t exit there is no guarantee Digne won’t be playing second fiddle HERE or fitting in somewhere else.

I hope Brands is working on a plan B and C for centre back if this Yerry Mina thing doesn’t come off because we cannot go in to the season without more pace and agility in the centre.

Andy Williams
20 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:09:16
Victor. That's exactly what I have been thinking. Could do a much better job for us there than Schneiderlin. It would also place less physical demands on him.
Andrew Ellams
21 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:11:49
The issues with Baines moving into the middle is the defensive side of the game is not his strongest and he's never been the strongest physically. We need some muscle in the centre of the field.
Drew O'Neall
23 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:18:11
Just one other point, I remember Silva quoted as saying there is an order in which the digning’s must occur.

I just wonder if we can’t complete big money signings, the kind which operate on a short negotiation cycle because we blow away competition with a big cheque, yet so they don’t light up the eyes of agents and chairmen negotiating the more delicately balanced signings of players like Digne who we’ve managed to get for reasonable money.

There will be a well thought out strategy which Brands will be working to and paying over the odds probably comes las - I hope so anyway cos we’re still short.

Davie Turner
24 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:18:33
I still think Baines, and indeed Jagielka, have a role at the club but neither should be first choice now. If they happy to support the squad and come in for games here and there they both still have quality, let's face it last season Jags was our best centre half and that isn't his fault.

I have seen both get stuck and suggestions they should be shown the door but I think they could be valuable as Silva builds his team and both have been great for the club, age had caught up but they deserve a bit of loyalty back.

Mike Allison
26 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:22:25
Michael, 8, I quite like your team but it's an end-of-home-game, chasing-the-victory type of line up, I wouldn't go with it from the start.

I think we need that No 8 where you've put Sigurdsson as a priority signing, but I've no idea where we're going to get one from of the requisite quality. Any name I can think of as good enough is unlikely to come.

Mike Benjamin
27 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:22:26
Drew@19. The reason left-back is a priority is because we have no other naturally left-footed player in the squad. The issue with the centre-backs and centre-midfield is that the players we have are clearly not good enough but at least we have bodies who can plat there.
Andy Williams
28 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:23:10
Andrew. He is a thousand times better than Schneiderlin defensively.
Mark Tanton
29 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:23:47
Central midfield is hardly a retirement home for players whose legs have gone. Ridiculous suggestion.
Stephen Brown
30 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:28:52
At a time of year when every player under the sun is linked with a transfer in the red tops, two players I’ve not seen mentioned are Schneiderlin and Williams!

Prepare for both to be in the match day squad v Wolves!

Derek Taylor
31 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:29:03
None of the line-ups mentioned impress me. A failure to address the glaring absence of a constructive midfield as well as the on-going striker problem will leave M&M longing for the next window. And the tactics introduced by the new manager spell DISASTER.

Anton Walsh
32 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:30:07
Just read a report he doesn't give much going forward but is very aggressive in the tackle. Have we just signed Hibbo's love child from a long ago stag weekend.
Neil Pickering
33 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:32:05
Digne aside, we still need to buy 2 centre backs, 1 defensive midfielder, a striker and a wide player. Thats 5 more players in the next 10/11 days and I think there is no chance of that.

Strap yourselves in and be prepared to be bottom half of the table at least till the next window opens and we can who we need, coz if we have to rely on Keane, Schneiderlin, Bolasie, and sandro being around our 1st team then we are well and truly fucked people.

Michael Morgan
35 Posted 30/07/2018 at 09:59:00
Mike @26,

We should be chasing victory right from the start. Imagine them 3 all with pace, interchanging positions and Sigurdsson just behind them setting them off in attack, Gueye and the defence breaking up attacks and getting it to Sigurdsson.

Are attack has been too slow and predictable for a while now, I'm sick of sideways and backwards passing whilst defences reorganize and then break with ease.

I agree that we need reinforcements in the way of a proper box to box midfielder. But I think Silva's already been told that he will only be allowed the LB and one CB. You never know though, if there's enough going out before window shuts, they might allow a 4th, i'd even take a decent player on loan for year if their wasn't enough in the kitty to buy.

Andy Williams
36 Posted 30/07/2018 at 10:04:47
Mark. That's exactly what happened to Lahm. When he started struggling at Bayern at fullback - because he had lost so much - Guardiola moved him to CDM. I shall pass on your derision to him.
Victor Yu
37 Posted 30/07/2018 at 10:09:20
I believe Digne was waiting for a better offer. He joins us only because there is no team interested other than us.

Mark Tanton
41 Posted 30/07/2018 at 10:23:37
I know Lahm did it. If you really think Baines can be a Premier League central midfielder, I respect your view. It takes all sorts, I guess.
Jer Kiernan
42 Posted 30/07/2018 at 10:28:34
This looks like good business I will add to above sentiments would love to see us pull a pacey CB out of the bag we cannot have 2 x CB with all the pace and grace of movement of a garbage barge(Keane like Klaassen we will have to bite the bullet on) At least Jagielka has some experience to bring to the table

Definitely get shot of Mirallass and Schneiderlin aside from their dismal performances on the pitch I would say in the dressing room their influence is corrosive, would be a good marker for Silva also to send out a message that we have no room for the these types.

I was a bit unhappy with the selection process (or seeming lack of) in appointing Silva, however,I am right behind him and no matter who came in this is a mammoth job, And after watching the pre-seasons I almost feel sorry for him, I will do my level best to back him and review at seasons end some of the utter dross in the squad is breathtaking on review

Some good football and a Europa League place would be a great season for me. I would love to see some youth blooded too (Holgate, Kenny, Baningime etc)


Andy Williams
43 Posted 30/07/2018 at 10:32:01
It does Mark doesn't it? And what a boring World it would be if it didn't. I know it doesn't make for great forum fodder but I don't proclaim to know everything. It is amazing that with the amount of people who do on this site that all OFMs haven't just read the dogma presented on here adopted all the solutions and lead us to everlasting victory. What fools they are.

Baines is intelligent, has a decent pass, and can put a tackle in. That range of attributes immediately gives him more to offer than most of our MFs. If you think otherwise that's no problem. I don't think I could trust my foresight enough to call your opinion ridiculous though. Takes all sorts though.

Ernie Baywood
44 Posted 30/07/2018 at 10:43:11
Replacement should have been here at least a year ago. But better late than never. He's certainly a credible signing.

Think back to when Baines was signed. He was clearly the best left back at the club but it took some time to take Lescott's place (even if that was more about Lescott struggling to establish himself at centre back).

I'd still start with Baines and take the view that Digne needs to take his place.

Kase Chow
45 Posted 30/07/2018 at 10:51:38
Victor #37

I fear you are correct. We are such an unattractive proposition that ppl just don’t wanna come

‘Agent, tell me about Everton’?

‘Well they’re a mid table club that have flirted with relegation and gotten into Europe in equal measure. They’ve had 5 managers in 3 years but they have some money to spend. Basically, go there, get yourself a fat wage packet and move on in a couple of years if you do well. If not then you’ll be on a massive salary anyway. Let’s put it this way, if you have any other decent options then steer clear but if not then go for a year or 2 and then move on’

Paul Mackay
46 Posted 30/07/2018 at 10:59:10
Or go and play in the best league in the world, for a team that has money to spend and a new stadium on the horizon, a new coach, a team on the rise. Go and play more regularly than you have been and get yourself back in the international team.

In any case, does any player look beyond the next couple of years?

Karl Meighan
47 Posted 30/07/2018 at 11:10:30
Baines seems to be taking stick here, I would be interested in seeing results before and after he was injured as well as seeing Digne play a few games before I replaced him.

I hope this lad can play centreback as imo there are far poorer players in the team that need replacing before Baines.

He has never been the best defender Baines and the goals conceded cannot just be put at the defenders door. Your supposed to defend as a team and the cover given from 2 defensive midfielders and the wide players over the past couple of seasons has been shocking at times.

Peter Gorman
48 Posted 30/07/2018 at 11:27:54
Mike Kehoe @9

That is all very well put. Silva and Brands have joined an utter shambles of a club with a disinterested and lazy bunch of donkeys in the team.

Richarlison may have cost a ransom but he has already shown glimpses of what we saw at Watford, most importantly a hunger to impress. I could not give a tinker's cuss if we match the 'achievement' of 8th this season so long as the never-achievers in the side (we all know who they are) are shipped out at whatever loss and replaced with more players like Richarlison who actually desire to play.

It will take time, work and a stupid amount of good fortune but we need to get on with thinking long-term. The perfect storm may get worse before it gets better but for the first time in a long time I'm seeing shades of a plan.

Paul Tran
49 Posted 30/07/2018 at 11:33:19
I'm not sure that Baines is getting stick. It's the simple realisation that time is catching up and he needs replacing. I hope that Digne is good at stopping crosses from their source. That's the one thing all our full backs have been poor at and it's been costing us goals for a while.
Jay Harris
50 Posted 30/07/2018 at 11:33:24
Baines has been amongst our best performers preseason but age is bringing on him being prone to injuries.

Replacing him has to be done.

However it is a sad indictment of our MF that he would be better than any of them.

Our most pressing need is for some strength and goals from MF.

Davies has gone backwards and always looks as if hes been out all night. scneiderlin has improved but is far too slow and Gueye has a great engine and tackles well but questions about his passing and goalscoring let him down.

As for CBs we don't have any synergy there. Keane is used to a deep well organised back 4 that doesnt open up. Under Silva his lack of awareness is very exposed as we open up play. Williams has never looked like the CB he was for Wales and wansea and along with Jags is now too old for the prem.
Personally I would have retained Funes Mori until we get the quality CBs we need.
Holgate is the only one that gives me hope but he is too inexperienced without a quality partner.

Martin Berry
51 Posted 30/07/2018 at 11:42:32
What I like is that we will have real quality down both flanks.
I realize that the centre of defence is being addressed sooner or later, added to that a midfielder who can spray a decent pass to these flanks and then we will be going somewhere.
Nicholas Ryan
52 Posted 30/07/2018 at 13:07:22
Lucas Digne is saying that Barca is a brilliant club; he'd wanted to be there since he was a child; and it's not like a football club, it's like a family...'

Just one problem, Lucas; it's a family that doesn't want you in it!

Amit Vithlani
53 Posted 30/07/2018 at 13:13:03
1. I know nothing about Digne, but I can say this much, to sign a French International from Barcelona must have meant there was something about the club that he liked. The doom merchants on this thread - Victor & Kase - need to consider that Digne could have sat on his arse on a fat contract at Barcelona if he had no ambition. No body can blame you if you don't get ahead of Jordi Alba, can they? At Everton, he has more to lose - his rival is a 34 year old with plenty of miles on the clock. I think he has put his career at risk and deserves some support for joining us. There is no tangible proof that he was waiting for offers, other than a speculative report in the Red Echo. This may come as a shock to you, but sometimes the news papers do not have the full facts to back up a report.


2. Baines in midfield? I will go out on a limb and say yes, what a fantastic idea. I do not think he could do a Philip Lahm, as he is too one footed, but on the left of a midfield 3, in a 4-3-3 or 5-3-2, he has enough skill and vision to make us hugely potent on that side of the pitch. Also, I would rather have Baines in a midfield 3 then Gana and Schneiderlin in a 4-2-3-1 any day of the week, and twice on a Sunday. Find a spot for him I say, if we have no better options than a Gana-Schneiderlin axis.


3. I hope we take a leaf out of England's book and look at the importance of set pieces, especially if there is a concern over a lack of goals from general play. Baines and Siggy could alternate duties, just as Baines and Arteta did, as set-piece takers, and we were a tough side to defend set-pieces against. It was also the way we used to get results against the top 4: KITAP1 worked perfectly in those games if you had a set-piece routine that works. I would not have Baines in the side purely for set-pieces, but if we find a spot for him in the team, say in midfield, then I hope we go back to using his dead ball delivery, which is still amongst the best in the league.

Lennart Hylen
54 Posted 30/07/2018 at 13:20:32
What is lacking and has been lacking for so long? TEAMSPIRIT. The one for all and all for one spirit. Just look how long teams like Iceland have gone in world football with just teamspirit. Everton today consist of individuals but football is a game played by a team that work together.
Derek Knox
55 Posted 30/07/2018 at 14:01:26
Lennart @65, very true there. I can only surmise that the ridiculous amounts of money, being paid to these footballers these days, has a got to be a major factor.

I remember when a professional footballer would roughly earn about 3-4 times that of a Tradesman. In many cases they are 'earning' (?) 3-4 times the Tradesman's Annual income equivalent, in a week as opposed to a year.

Let's face it, there is no such thing as loyalty anymore, and contracts only work in favour of the player, oh, and of course his agent.

I do despair at times, yet I still love watching football. I'm not sure that anything can or will change, but football is changing, and not for the better.

Steve Brown
56 Posted 30/07/2018 at 14:18:51
This is a positive and cost-effective transfer — more like this from Marcel Brands and we will be getting somewhere. But it's a strange situation when fans might be equally excited by the departure of certain players as they are with new arrivals.

Williams, Mirallas and Schneiderlin have to go as their attitude and application stinks, Jagielka needs to move over to the coaching staff and Pennington, Bolasie, Browning and Galloway just aren't good enough. Scary who we have left with the transfer window closing soon.

Mike Gaynes
57 Posted 30/07/2018 at 14:27:26
Delighted with this!

Colin (#1), yes, I'm certain that's part of the plan. Digne played that role often at Barca with Jordi moving up the touchline.

Paul (#47), couldn't have said it better.

Paul (#50), yes he is.

Brian (#58), good sense as always.

Nicholas (#62), you're wrong. Barca would be happy to have him stay as a reserve, he's done well in the role. Digne's missing out on a World Cup winner's medal is what has pushed him, reluctantly, to depart in order to revive his international career.

Amit (#64), thoroughly agree.

Mike Gaynes
58 Posted 30/07/2018 at 14:31:25
Derek (#67), it's in every sport, not just footy, but I choose to view it as the natural order of things. Old-time athletes also didn't generate the incredible amounts of revenue that professional sports produce today. Nor were franchises back then worth hundreds of millions as they are today.

The athletes, with their short careers, have every right to claim their share of what they are producing for club ownership. And the loyalty thing cuts both ways, because I don't see much club loyalty to players most of the time either.

Susong Hermawan
59 Posted 30/07/2018 at 14:35:54
Aah Yesss, welcome Digne!
Mark Taylor
60 Posted 30/07/2018 at 14:36:51
Digne looks to be a good buy at a reasonable price in a position where we urgently need another body and have done so for over a season.

If we end up with replacing Lookman with Richarlison at a net cost of around £25m and presumably far higher wages, I'm not inclined to think that is good business, however well the latter has started.

As we all know, a first choice CB is mission critical, without which we will leak goals like there's no tomorrow or alternatively be forced to play 10 in defence as we did under Allardyce.

In an ideal world, we would also buy a midfielder able to operate alongside Gana.

Soren Moyer
61 Posted 30/07/2018 at 14:49:03
We should go all in for Rondon. 2 centre-backs, and a decent box-to-box midfielder.
Dominic Tonge
62 Posted 30/07/2018 at 14:55:31
Rondon?

Sorry but, for me, there's not enough goals in our team as is – adding the goal scoring prowess of Solomon Rondon, who is known for bringing others into play rather than scoring goals, is the opposite of what we need. Also, it sends out an awful statement of intent. I'd hope he is not the calibre of player we will sign.

Nathan Osborne
63 Posted 30/07/2018 at 15:01:58
My team to play Wolves:

Pickford
Coleman Holgate [new CB] Digne
Baningime Besic Sigurdsson
Walcott Tosun Richarlison

Bench: Stekelenburg, Kenny, Baines, Davies, Gana, Lookman, Niasse, Dowell

Besic actually showed some promising signs in the first two pre-season games, unlike any of our other central midfielders; however, the quality still isn't there and a signing is needed.

Keane, Williams, Scheniderlin and Sandro all need to go, as there is no future for them.

Digne is a great signing and will replace Baines effective immediately. Now we just need to get more of these quality signings so we can challenge for a top 6 spot.


Andy Osborne
64 Posted 30/07/2018 at 15:17:37
Nathan (78) I'd probably go Gueye instead of Besic. But not much between them at the moment.

[Now stop typing on ToffeeWeb and get to bed!!!]

Soren Moyer
65 Posted 30/07/2018 at 15:29:00
Dominic, I meant as a backup for Tosun as he doesn't cost a lot of money.
Mike Gaynes
66 Posted 30/07/2018 at 15:31:05
Nathan, Holgate and Beningime are not healthy yet.

And Besic instead of Gana??? No thank you!

Anthony Flack
67 Posted 30/07/2018 at 16:40:56
Rondon played well against us but so did Mike Milligan . enough said

Surely one of the youngsters should be considered back up for Tosun

Jer Kiernan
68 Posted 30/07/2018 at 16:42:59
Have to laugh at the amount of proposed starting 11s I have seen this month on TW that contain a back four with [New CB} instead of either Keane or Williams ??

It is a damning inditment of both

Its like any fucker but them will do thanks, And to be honest I tend to agree with it, I will be sad to see Lookman go but a new CB (who can actually run) and shipping Schneiderlin ( at any cost ) and Mirallas will outweigh the disappointment

I think Brands and Silva are working hard in the backround but as i stated this week getting rid of some of the deadbeats will be as much a challenge as adding to the squad

William Gall
69 Posted 30/07/2018 at 16:54:52
10 days to go, still only speculation and rumors for positions that should be prioritized,that is a central defender and quality midfielder.
Stewart Lowe
70 Posted 30/07/2018 at 16:57:36
Don't forget guys that Klopp hasn't won anything yet and will have been Liverpool manager 3 years this October. He has needed the time to build what he needs and play a certain way. He has had 5-6 transfer windows to get where he is now. I admire what he has done and hope we can emulate that. Thankfully, as long as Guardiola is City manager, Klopp won't get a look in.

But Richarlison and Digne will be the first attacking minded players into Finch Farm as we begin our building process. It was a necessity to play as many of our squad in pre season, but I'm sure Silva already knows that there are 6-12 players that physically or mentally unable to play the game he demands. Richarlison and Digne are grafters as well as creative, the more like that two the better.

Mike Gaynes
71 Posted 30/07/2018 at 17:02:38
Jer #86, just because we think they're deadbeats doesn't mean Brands and Silva think so.

Most new managers won't come in with preconceived notions about the players available to them. They'll say "past is past, show me what you've got" and give them a clean shot at a squad place.

We all want to see the backs of Mirallas and Schneiderlin, but during our last purple patch in Feb-March-April 2017, they were two of the best players in the side. And Silva is obviously willing to write off last season and wipe the slate clean.

Let's see what he decides.

Jer Kiernan
72 Posted 30/07/2018 at 17:16:42
@Mike
89Fair point you may be right, we will see

I am sure Silva is aware of their awful performances last year not to mention their lack of discipline when the Club was really struggling for form

I would make it a point of running both out (or through) the door to lay down a marker to the rest and show that there is no place for their likes about the place

Saying that with the new breed of managers/players it is all about making them feel loved !! So whos to say, Either way I think if he does show faith in either or both it will be misplaced and he wil have missed an opportunity to send out the right signals

Mike Gaynes
73 Posted 30/07/2018 at 17:24:49
Jer, not that I really believe in the "signals" thing, but if Silva's sending one, it's that everybody gets the same chance to impress or fail, regardless of what's happened before. I don't think that's a bad thing.

He may also be sending a signal that he thinks he's a better manager than our last few and can get performances out of these players that they couldn't.

And he has clearly shown already that any player who doesn't measure up will be speedily dispatched (good luck Davy). We all expect Williams, Schneids and Stupor Kev to follow eventually, but the latter two at least appear to have a place in Silva's picture for the moment.

Stewart Lowe
74 Posted 30/07/2018 at 17:33:09
To begin with I couldn't understand Silva using a lot of friendlies to look at players that all of us fans already know should out of the door. I thought we were wasting opportunities to get a settled strongest 11 am whilst he brings in reinforcements. I also thought he must have watched our lot during the last 6 months and already knew who he wanted for next season. But then I realised that our players have been asked to play for 3 managers in one season, and in lots of different ways. They have not played his system and formation, and was unable to make a clear decision until he had. I just don't think he will have realised how many poor players we actually had.
Mike Gaynes
75 Posted 30/07/2018 at 17:42:49
Spot on, Jer. Agreed.

Although I still think we already may have the pacy, passing CB we need in Mason Holgate. I would love to see him get a full shot.

Sam Hoare
76 Posted 30/07/2018 at 17:58:57
Anyone curious to give Baines a go in CDM instead of Schneiderlin?

He’s got to be one of our smartest footballers and that left foot is usually pretty accurate in distribution both short and long.

Probably the juice is not worth the squeeze as they say but I’d try almost anything to get Schneiderlin out of the first XI!

Brian Hennessy
77 Posted 30/07/2018 at 18:14:23
Sam, I agree it's worth trying Baines in central midfield or left of mid as others have suggested.

Anything just to get Schneiderlin out of the team

Joe McMahon
81 Posted 30/07/2018 at 19:02:40
Sam, Baines left foot used to be great. But sadly too many years of dreadful corners and the freekicks and goals have stopped. I just don't think he has the pace anymore.
Rob B Williams
82 Posted 30/07/2018 at 19:39:36
God helps if we can't get a better left-back than Baines. Always a faithfully servant, now past his prime. That Rennes match showed he was knackered nothing like the Bainar player that ran the line and delivered passes and dead balls to perfection.

No, I do believe we should allow Leighton to enjoy his last few years at a far less demanding set-up probably in the States and reap the benefit of a final big salary before he hangs up his boots. The lad deserves no less.

Nick White
83 Posted 30/07/2018 at 19:40:51
Can anyone on here comment about what type of left back Digne is? I’ve read conflicting comments about him being either an attacking full back or a defensive left back.
Brian Wilkinson
84 Posted 30/07/2018 at 19:49:35
Mike@94, cannot disagree he had a decent World Cup, however in previous club games he's look good in some games and poor in others, swings and roundabouts, but I would give a big thumbs up on some posters on here giving a shout for Maguire instead of Keane, posters names have eluded me but spot on highlighting Maguire while he was still at Hull.
Sam Fitzsimmons
85 Posted 30/07/2018 at 21:10:50
David 123
Well said
Jack Convery
88 Posted 30/07/2018 at 21:36:03
The left of EFC has offered nothing since Pienaar left for Spurs and broke up the best left-sided pairing in the Premier League. Baines was never the same and when Pienaar came back the magic was gone. When was the last time you saw Baines do what Coleman does up and down the right side? As a penalty taker he's second to none – are you listening, Mirallas & Jagielka?

When that incident happened and Jags didn't tell Mirallas to fuck off and Martinez acted so weakly towards Mirallas, I reckon Baines thought "Fuck this for a game of soldiers".

He's lived off his reputation for a few seasons now. A good squad player for Season 18-19 but a whole new left side is required and with Richarlison and Digne we now have that. If they are half as good as Baines and Pienaar in their pomp we will be well served. Let's hope so. The left sorted and the right sorted (Walcott / Coleman) - slowly, in my opinion, it's coming together.

Laurie Hartley
91 Posted 30/07/2018 at 22:45:49
Michael # 9 - Sam Allardyce was called every name under the sun but somehow he managed to get us to 8th place with this group of players. I think we should give it a rest now.

We should certainly not rewrite history:-
"The fact is he had no vision beyond a defensive setup and working on set pieces".

How does that stack up with the fact that at the first opportunity he had to strengthen the squad he bought two forwards - Walcott and Tosun.

And no, I am not calling for him back because I saw how strongly some of the TWrs I respect the most felt about him. I just think he deserves a fair go now that he is gone.

Danny Baily
93 Posted 30/07/2018 at 22:51:36
I would already be moving on to other targets if they are reluctant to sign or there's any risk of either deal falling through.

Precious time is being wasted.

Kase Chow
94 Posted 30/07/2018 at 22:56:55
Feels like Digne is eeeking out the time shouting "I'm available", waiting for another club to step in.

C'mon lad, join us if you want to and don't if you don't.

Billy Fisher
95 Posted 30/07/2018 at 23:00:23
Victor 17... I also remember Martinez's plans to put Bainesy in midfield but as a playmaker. I can only remember one game he did it and Bainsy threaded a great through ball (remember them?) to Mirallas who finished it like a striker (he was bought as a strike). There's 2 players who could be tried out in different positions
John Boswell
96 Posted 30/07/2018 at 23:05:06
Billy, I remember that goal, it was away at Newcastle and Baines for me was the MotM for Everton that night.

I also agree with you that Mirallas could be tried at centre-forward, mix things up a bit.

Billy Fisher
98 Posted 30/07/2018 at 23:08:02
What I'm saying is... Leighton Baines has got a football brain and doesn't have to retire just cos he can't bomb up the wing anymore.
Billy Fisher
99 Posted 30/07/2018 at 23:09:59
Thanks for the clarification John
Brent Stephens
104 Posted 30/07/2018 at 23:53:34
Would that be a screen dump, Ray?
Ashley Roberts
106 Posted 31/07/2018 at 04:47:27
I think Digne is a shoe in for LB and Baines will now have a bit part to play in the future. I just do not see Baines moving into midfield as the legs have gone. I see the papers are saying we are now in for Rojo as UTD want Mina and will price out of his purchase. My viewpoint here is that he is another UTD reject and I just don’t see us progressing with their cast offs. Having said that I believe he is better than what we currently have on the books.

Midfield is still the big concern for me. Both Gana and Schneiderlin can go as both are very average and useless with the ball and have never been able to play together. Both Koeman and Allardyce kept pairing them to no avail. Nobody has mentioned Joe Williams recently. I read Silva rated him but I believe he has been injured? maybe he will get a chance against Valencia. We definitely need a Loftus-Cheek type of player and I would blow all of the funds to bring him into the team in place of Sigurdson. Again, I think Sigurdson was a total waste of money and I just don’t see him providing that creative role we so desperately need and my god is he slow. Scores the odd great goal but does bugger all else. Walcot and Richarlison will also be 2 of the first names on the team sheet and with this pace maybe we don’t need Tosun starting. Klopp doesn’t play with a dedicated front man and it works for him.

At the end of the day we need at least another 3 quality players through the spine of the team, I just hope we can find them in time before transfer deadline day and move a lot of the dead wood out.

Ray Roche
107 Posted 31/07/2018 at 07:50:57
Quality Brent, quality!
Amit Vithlani
108 Posted 31/07/2018 at 09:52:06
Brent - I bow my head to your superior pun-liners
John Raftery
109 Posted 31/07/2018 at 10:02:39
Phillip Lahm was 29 when he was switched to midfield. At 33 Baines is unlikely to make the switch now unless of course we are desperate. Which we may be!
Anthony Murphy
110 Posted 31/07/2018 at 13:31:47
So, has the lad made it to Finch Farm yet?
Kase Chow
111 Posted 31/07/2018 at 13:45:41
Anthony (#110),

Great question.

Perhaps my paranoia but the way this transfer is dragging it really does make me question whether he actually wants to join us.

Ray Smith
112 Posted 31/07/2018 at 14:10:25
I wonder what part Kenwright is playing in the Digne signing.

Here we go again. It doesn't even get a mention on Sky Sports News.

There are now 9 days left, and that's how long he has to blend in. Actually, 8 days because he probably hasn't had his medical yet. An update on Digne wouldn't go amiss. I shouldn't be surprised but this is supposed to be a new era.

I'm sure Brands is working hard to get deals done, but from the outside, ‘same old Everton'.

If I'm right, a lot of this is down to Kenwright!!!!

James Marshall
113 Posted 31/07/2018 at 14:18:40
Part of the delay in announcing signings these days, is the stupid video they have to shoot & edit before telling anyone.

The clubs agree a fee, the agents agree their cuts on the deal, the law people do all the paperwork, the kid agree personal terms, then has a medical, then they shoot a video, then the video has to be edited.

All of this takes fucking ages. End of story.

Bill Griffiths
114 Posted 31/07/2018 at 14:27:06
Can anyone clarify a point for me regarding this transfer window regarding the changes? I know the deadline is 9 August and that we can sell players to foreign clubs after this date.

Are we able to sign players from foreign clubs after the 9th or not able to buy at all?

John Clowes
115 Posted 31/07/2018 at 14:34:09
Bill, from what I believe is we can't sign anyone at all after 9 August and can sell players to other English teams up to that date, anything after we can only sell to foreign teams.
Lee Jackson
116 Posted 31/07/2018 at 16:24:10
Pics on daily mail showing Digne heading in for his medical with EFC badged escort. So maybe he'll be unveiled today. Not sure about those shoes though!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6011503/Lucas-Digne-arrives-Merseyside-Everton-medical-ahead-18m-Barcelona.html

Brian Williams
117 Posted 31/07/2018 at 16:29:29
Damn, just stubbed my toe on the patio door, fucking Kenwright's fault!!

Ray Smith- "Come on Brian that's ridiculous."

Me-"You started it."

James Marshall
118 Posted 31/07/2018 at 16:34:14
Well I for one am hoping he's going to be Digneamite.

I'll get me coat.

Bill Griffiths
119 Posted 31/07/2018 at 16:47:30
Thanks John, thought that might be the case but wasn't too sure.
Michael Hughes
(South Wales)

120 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:07:20
Lee (116), sounds more like a kidnapping! Maybe that's the only way we could get him to sign - it would explain the long delay too.
Rob Halligan
121 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:20:05
SSN reporting that Everton to announce the signing of Digne this evening. Must have passed his medical then.
John Raftery
122 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:20:20
Signing will be announced this evening according to Sky sources. It always takes a full day from the arrival of the player at Finch Farm to the time of the announcement. Nothing whatsoever to do with Kenwright.
Mark Tanton
123 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:21:12
Grand news. Just seen a photograph of his chaperoned by a bloke plastered in blue ‘Sports Pesa” at some private medical centre. Right get him sewn up and go get a centre half.
Dave Abrahams
124 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:28:10
John. (115), I thought premier league clubs could sell players to English championship teams and also to other English clubs in the lower leagues after August 9th, although not absolutely sure about this.
Dermot Byrne
125 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:28:23
John #122: sources tell me the deal was done yesterday.
However the customary 6 hours with BK sharing Boys Pen memories took some organising.

Firstly a translator was required and hard to find due to holidays and then to add to it, Andrew Lloyd Webber was busy so the soundtrack was delayed.

Anyway, thankfully Ken Loach was on hand to make the video and all seems ready now to announce the signing of a defender.

Mike Gaynes
126 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:31:06
Nice photo, but I think the orange shoes are rather unDignefied.

I'll follow James out.

Mark Tanton
127 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:32:59
So Silva and Brands have added pace in attack and a new left back - this is all very targeted and positive. Not like last summer where it seemed to be Koeman and Walsh in a Chinese, going “right now you write a name down”.
John Audsley
128 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:49:31
I've slated BK over the years but to be honest we have no idea what he actually does anymore.

I'm not going to blame him for holding this one up.

Need a CB fucking desperately.

Dermot Byrne
130 Posted 31/07/2018 at 17:58:16
John # 128 : may I just say I was talking well researched nonsense!
Ed Fitzgerald
131 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:01:47
Apparently Rafa wants Baines at Newcastle
Darren Murphy
132 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:04:25
ATV Irdning have a few players we could sign, if we fit them around their day jobs we could be on to a winner. At least they'd be committed.
Darren Murphy
133 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:09:33
On a serious note, don't panick, we'll have 4 players in by the deadline... just chill out ready shite like Redshite Echo...a paper as much use as a nun in a brothel.

They won't be the players we hear from tabloid bs.

John Audsley
134 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:12:28
As long as Williams doesn't get anywhere near the team I will be happy. I thought last year he was a burned out husk of a player.

I just hope this new fella is better than Nuno Valente.

Darren Murphy
135 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:14:20
*don't read shite like the Redshite Echo.
Danny Baily
136 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:15:42
Some much needed good news!
John Pierce
137 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:16:49
I think without opining the on the quality of player, we will undoubtedly get players in and out.

The transfer window has both clubs and players wound tight as a drum this year and the last week, perhaps last hours are likely to be manic. More than usual due to the circumstances created by the World Cup and early closing.

Drew Shortis
138 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:20:48
Fantastic.

A few years ago we had an outstanding left flank combo with Baines & Pienaar. We've never really replaced Peanuts & Baines is sadly past his best. With Digne-Richarlison we now have pace, power & trickery down that flank once again.

The right wing should be solid with Coleman & Walcott who will make us balanced on both flanks. Hopefully we can keep hold of Lookman as a regular option & Vlasic, Calvert-Lewin & Bolasie give us plenty of wide cover, though I expect one or two of them to be moved on.

Looking at our current lineup the two glaring areas that require strengthening are centre-back and a more mobile & creative central midfielder. It looks like the CB will be following soon, but I have no idea who we''re going to get into CM. Is N'Zonzi still being linked?

If we can offload Martina, Williams, Mirallas & Sandro I think we'll be just about there for this window. A squad of 26, including the two additions for the positions I mentioned. 25 if we can find a buyer for Bolasie.

This window has not been easy due to it's truncated duration after the Worldcup and the necessity to offload several players on large contracts. I think the policy of moving out the deadwood is sound for the long-term future of the club. It's all well and good to keep signing players, but the team has to be managed sensibly or we'll end up in a financial mess.

Cut our losses where necessary and get a manageable squad size made up of committed players. There's still a few I'm not convinced about, but you can't realistically get it all sorted out in a single window. It's been a frustrating process, but necessary work so far by Brands & Silva. No square pegs thus far.

Gavin Johnson
139 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:23:55
Wow!! Afie Mawson is going to Fulham for just £15m. I hope M&M have something up their sleeve cos it's looking less likely that Mina will be joining his Barca team mate.
Darren Murphy
140 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:28:34
We could end up with Digne, Zaha lol, Portuguese lad, and another striker.

Might of been Deeney, Jones, Rojo and Billy fucknuts.

Nobody knows at the moment, sit tight and see who puts up the shirt then moan regardless. Richarlison was a great buy, keeping Lookman would be great, Re structure Jordans contract in decent terms, sign Digne, use Holgate with a new CB or Digne in lcb, fuck off Schneiderbin and Mirralas, Williams etc. Box to box forward passing midfielder may be a problem but doable if we do have actual decent new backroom staff considered they've had plenty of time.

Or moan we're shite and assume that the next ten days will be bollocks.

Julian Wait
141 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:34:45
Mawson wanted to return to London. Never had a chance on him imho
Tom Bowers
143 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:34:57
If we can be a little optimistic now that this Digne is basically in the fold we can hope that one or two more can quickly be brought in.

As they have so far hardly shipped anyone out they will have a large contingent to choose the final first team squad from.

Obviously none of us can be satisfied with the pre-season performances and we can but hope at least that the fitness levels will be 100% after the Valencia game.

Wolves will be a hell of a test in the first game and Everton need to come out with a confident and positive attitude to get anything from the game.

The clock is ticking on the transfer window so I hope Silva can finaigle a couple more before it runs out.

Stephen Brown
144 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:35:46
Julian
I think Mawson is from Barnsley?
Lee Jackson
145 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:36:34
Drew (138) - I think you summed up pretty much exactly how I'm seeing this transfer window and the M&M show so far. My big concern is 'can Silva actually organize a defense?' because the showings so far are even worse than last years atrocities. Yes, yes, I know, only pre-season.

Darren, Digne at LCB may be better than one of our other numpties but he looks terribly short for a CB and he doesn't have Ratcliffe type pace to counter that either. Still, at least (we hope) he's not another statue and can turn quicker than Jags/Keane/Williams so maybe it would work if we cant get any other option in. I wonder if he has ever played there before? I read LB and LMF.

Darren Murphy
146 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:38:09
Well said Drew... I just get fed up talking sense sometimes man. Waste of my time.

You're about right man. It's another long job thanks to the idiots previous, a shorter window, just had the WC so obviously it's a little bit different and hard pressed to conclude things...even though for us we could have three months left and still have not the quality we lack and the shite ones still here.

I'll back Silva and Brands...not my preferred choice but here we are so not much choice till results come in and decent given time.

I'm not very patient but I feel I and we have to be or we'll end up being Chavski and the rest regards management etc. It doesn't look good nor do I think it works.

We'll be fine, just not top 6 like we'd of liked in the next few years.

Lee Jackson
147 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:39:21
Stephen, they got him from Barnsley who in turn had bought him from Brentford I believe(?) Plus 'Alfie' is as cockney as you can get surely?
Darren Hind
148 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:41:26
There are still some decent transfers being done by clubs not prepared to spend crazy money
Dermot Byrne
149 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:41:52
Tom #143; agree with risking some optimism.

But concerned about Silva linked with finaigle as fear this may be silly spending continuing!

Link

Darren Murphy
150 Posted 31/07/2018 at 18:55:56
Lee yes he isn't a great height, 5ft 10, it's doable because he's younger and quicker than Jags and Williams, I see what you are saying, I really think we need a young pacy left footed commanding left centre back asap. We have done for time. He'll do if nothing materializes man.
Dermot Byrne
151 Posted 31/07/2018 at 19:04:50
I agree re good signings that don't cost the earth. I wonder is our scouting as good as it was in Arteta days or is the market just so much more competitive so what were once low cost signings are all now v. expensive? Agents?
Alan Bodell
152 Posted 31/07/2018 at 19:14:25
Oh well... he must be good with the de-rigeur haircut and loads of tattoos... and in his favour is that Steve Walsh didn't spot him so what's not to like?
Stephen Brown
153 Posted 31/07/2018 at 19:35:13
Lee (#147),

Gor blimey I stand corrected governor!!!

£15M for him is decent value!

Lee Jackson
154 Posted 31/07/2018 at 19:48:28
Stephen, I agree, not much of a gamble either at that price - young, so has sell-on potential and even if he fails we are only realistically going to lose around £5m on him compared to how much we have already lost on Keane.

Whilst no world beater (and I feel somewhat overrated), he's still got to be better than our centre-backs with the exception of Holgate.

Mike Gaynes
155 Posted 31/07/2018 at 19:54:13
Drew (#138) and Lee (#145), manage your expectations. If you're expecting pace and power and excellent defense with Digne, you've got it. Never mind the 5'-10", you'll love his tackling and he's good in the air, and superb passing the ball out of the back.

But if you're expecting trickery in attack from him, you'll be disappointed. He's not creative at all – doesn't dribble past people or make cutting passes like Bainesy.

And Darren (#150) and Lee (#145), he's not a centre-back in a back four, but he does very well as a left centre-back in a back 3.

Rian Magee
156 Posted 31/07/2018 at 20:01:01
Derek #55

I couldn't agree with you more. Money has utterly destroyed the game. Gone are the days of real passionate grafters (there are a few exceptions, we have one at right-back) that play for nothing more than love and passion for the game, club and fans. What we get most of the time are posing, diving, overpaid mercenaries with no loyalty or pride in anything other than their agent and bank accounts.

Rant over, be delighted to see this lad playing for us, just want to see what else M&M have up their sleeves. I agree with the (pretty much general consensus) that 2-1 centre-back, a central midfielder and another striker/creative attacking player would be great to bring in... that might be asking a bit much in this window. Who knows though, we might uncover a gem or two. As I said before I don't particularly care for a 'name'...all I want is someone with a bit of quality and a bucket load of fight and pride... and, as someone earlier said – team spirit!

Lee Jackson
157 Posted 31/07/2018 at 20:10:21
Mike, most of what I have seen of Digne in an attacking sense (youtube only) show him swinging in some decent crosses, I don't think either Drew or I are expecting him to wiggle into the box like LB did - we can leave that up to Richarlison. What I'm hoping for is some decent crosses each game because Tosun looks like he has a knack of finding space and looks decent in the air even if he has missed a few sitters in pre-season (BTW, when was the last time LB consistently hit in decent crosses?).

I also don't feel he could be a long term CB because of his height BUT he's surely quicker, able to react and turn better than our current CB's who look so slow and ungainly these days that almost anyone would be an improvement.

In an ideal world of course, we would sign this fast, agile, man mountain CB (TBD), Holgate would get fit again and kick on whilst Coleman would start the year like we know he is capable off leaving Digne and Baines to duke it out.

Soren Moyer
158 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:00:46
Hope the rumor of us being linked with James Lea-Siliki from Rennes is true. What a player!
Arild Andersen
159 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:14:05
IF, and that's a big if, we get another CB, would Silva be tempted to go 3-4-3? Something like:

Pickford
Keane (Holgate or Jagielka?), New Tall Tough Fast Guy, Digne
Coleman, Gana, Sigurdsson, Baines (and later Robinson?)
Walcott, Tosun, Richarlison?

I know it's a bit strange with Gylfi as CM, but the former Icelandic manager Lagerbäck (who were in charge until Euro 2016) said in an interview here in Norway during the World Cup that he preferred to let Gylfi play box to box. As for Baines, he is deffo on his way out, but I liked some of his linkplay with Richarlison. Just a thought, and it's without Schneiderlin and Williams.

Lee Paige
160 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:14:32
Absolutely shambolic that we can’t get this completed today.
Derek Knox
161 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:19:09
Soren @158, spot on there, I too was very impressed with him, when we played them at the week-end.

Hope this one has some mileage in it, and represents the sorts of players we should be going for.

Mike Gaynes
162 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:25:10
Lee (#157), I've seen him play a bunch of times for Barca (watch most of their games) and he can definitely put in a decent cross, although it's rarely a big part of their attack. Amen to your other comments.

Soren (#158), he certainly auditioned well by tearing us apart Saturday – not that we're difficult to rip apart right now – and he wouldn't be the first player we've signed after they looked good against us (Vlasic, Richarlison, Bolasie, Sigurdsson, Kone, Saha among others).

Rob Halligan
163 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:47:43
Lee (#160). Why exactly is it symbolic that the deal for Digne cannot be completed today? Is there a game or something tomorrow?

Besides, how do you know it's not been completed? We know he's in Liverpool, and we know he's been for a medical. If it's not announced tonight, then no doubt it will be first thing in the morning.

Andrew Ellams
164 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:51:38
Who announces deals after all the journos have knocked off for the evening? Who's going to take the holding the scarf up photo?
Lee Jackson
165 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:55:07
Lee (#160) How do you know that this won't be completed today or that he hasn't signed already for that matter?

As has been pointed out on this thread several times, there are lots of 'media' items to take care off before the unveiling. My thoughts would be that the deal is officially concluded and he will be unveiled in the morning.

Lee Paige
166 Posted 31/07/2018 at 21:57:31
Sorry, Lee, but I'm all too familiar with the lax approach this club takes, it's time they started approaching business professionally and stopped putting too much attention into crappy reveal videos.
Rian Magee
167 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:02:09
Aye, who cares about reveal videos. Why not just announce the signings when the photography is sorted. The reveal video can be posted later... getting the news out to the fanbase should be priority, not releasing a video right? At least we have the announcement to look forward to haha
Brian Williams
168 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:03:19
Maybe the club is hoping to be able to announce a "double" signing? ;-)
Rian Magee
169 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:05:07
I'd love if that was the case Brian...but was hoping for the same while growing my Moses beard waiting for the Richarlison announcement :P
Lee Paige
170 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:05:56
Brian, I live in hope for that one. We should have a celebratory video release when they pass the medical to make it even more drawn out.
Andrew Ellams
171 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:13:56
Just seen his like-for-like stats with Baines over the last 3 years and in 10 led games he made 14 more crosses and twice as many dribbles. Maybe he'll be better going forwards than some have suggested.
Rian Magee
172 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:19:50
Lee... or maybe record and release the full medical as a video :P

I can't see it being a double announcement unfortunately, surely there would have been snaps of the other one heading to Finch Farm? Unless it's a contract extension for Willia... sorry, I can't even say that, haha!

James Marshall
173 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:24:53
The Digne deal is a done deal, they're just dicking about editing the announcement video is all.
Steven Jones
174 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:28:44
Rian, that made me LOL! He has got to go. Mirallas, Martina, as well, just so obvious, it must be embarrassing when they come in in the morning to training.

At least the youngsters know they have some future here or elsewhere, those three are finished professionally. They just stink the place out. McCarthy is close due to injuries and Besic needs to convert every game now, or walk.

Soren Moyer
175 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:31:52
Mike (#158),

This one is really on demand, if we believe the reports coming out from Rennes!
Chris Watts
176 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:41:03
Everything this club does is at a glacial pace... terms agreed last week. Medical today. Announce it already.... Wtf?!?
Rian Magee
177 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:45:39
Glad to be of service, Steven.

I agree with your list, although is Martina worth having as back up (played in the right position?) The others can go... Jagielka and Baines I think are done too, although it's damning that Jagielka is still our best centre-back. :O

The squad has too many mercenaries lifting astronomical wages for doing less than I did in kickabouts when I was 14.

Rian Magee
178 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:48:19
The Lea-Siliki or Cheryshev rumours might have more weight if the rumours about Lookman heading to Germany are to be believed... but then it's rumoured I'm 6'-5" and a pioneer. :P
Tom Bowers
179 Posted 31/07/2018 at 22:55:11
It is frustrating to say the least. Maybe the MRI or X-RAY machine crapped out? Hopefully there isn't a last-minute glitch.

In any event, we all know that just getting new players will not suddenly make them a top six team unless Silva and his crew can get a tightly knit strategy to build on.

All the possession in the world is useless if you cough it up cheaply in the final third and then are all over the place defensively trying to keep the opposition out which basically happened in many games last season.

Everton's back line was far too often exposed because the players in front of them failed to close opponents down effectively usually by inept tackling or poor marking.

Rian Magee
180 Posted 31/07/2018 at 23:02:24
Absolutely Tom. Being realistic, 8th is about as high as I'd imagine us going this season... and I'd be delighted with that. It's yet another transitional period for the club. Hopefully its the first step in a bit of stability and direction.

As has been mentioned a good few times, the squad isn't going to be fixed in one window, it's going to take at least 3 to really make inroads to a solid top six team.

Calls for patience... maybe that's what the media team are trying to teach us... haha!

Ed Prytherch
181 Posted 31/07/2018 at 23:42:17
So Rian, you want to keep Martina and get rid of Baines?

We need Baines to stick around for another season as back up left-back and then maybe Jedi will be ready to step up.

Andy Bone
182 Posted 31/07/2018 at 23:50:19
And we are still waiting. Do we move ar a snail's pace or what?
Mike Gaynes
183 Posted 01/08/2018 at 00:32:50
Andrew (#171), correct but he has also made only about ¼ as many "key passes" as Baines.

However, who knows, maybe he'll bring a little extra Barca with him.

Victor Yu
184 Posted 01/08/2018 at 03:42:24
It surely sounds like he is trying to wait as long as he can for a better offer elsewhere.

From flying to USA, flying to Spain, flying to England, going for medical and so on, every single step takes longer than usual.

He may end up signing with us but I believe he takes it as the last available option.

Mike Gaynes
185 Posted 01/08/2018 at 03:54:18
Another gem from Victor. Just make stuff up out of thin air and post it.

Pure bollocks.

Come on over to the US and run for President.

David Barks
186 Posted 01/08/2018 at 04:09:39
Yeah Mike, Victor is a serial offender. It’s getting quite old to be honest.
Alan J Thompson
187 Posted 01/08/2018 at 05:37:53
Victor (#184);

He may just have popped home to tell the wife and pick up some clean undies and a shirt.

David Greenwood
188 Posted 01/08/2018 at 06:32:31
Victor @184 it surely doesn't.
Phil Sammon
189 Posted 01/08/2018 at 06:38:19
I see Digne is undergoing the standard 48 hour Everton medical.
Karl Jones
190 Posted 01/08/2018 at 06:45:48
Slight hold-up... He's just double-checking there are no better offers.
David Greenwood
191 Posted 01/08/2018 at 07:11:06
Takes a while to get transfers over the line, for all sorts of reasons. This is the same at every club.

Has Lookman signed for Leipzig yet? How long has that taken to be completed? It works both ways.

Andrew Ellams
192 Posted 01/08/2018 at 07:24:01
Mike @ 183. Playing as many key passed as Leighton Baines is a pretty decent stat too though. Any player who averages 20+ appearances a season at Barcelona when he's behind Jordi Alaba in the pecking order is no dummy.
Bill Gienapp
193 Posted 01/08/2018 at 07:33:23
I suspect James (173) has hit the nail on the head.
Gary Willock
194 Posted 01/08/2018 at 07:50:00
Perhaps try Baines alongside Ghana in Defensive mid in last pre-season game? Less of a distance to get forward and make those ‘telling passes’, more balance, slot in perfectly when Digne does get up the pitch?

Still think we need a Loftus-Cheek there, but surely worth a try?

Derek Thomas
195 Posted 01/08/2018 at 07:57:47
Rumour has it that Newcastle and Burnley are 'Interested' in Baines
Paul Mackay
196 Posted 01/08/2018 at 08:00:46
When did Everton fans all become conspiracy theorists? I’m sure it will get announced today and you’ll all get to see him wander around in an Everton shirt. Never known our fans to be so anxious. Relax fellas!
Mark Tanton
197 Posted 01/08/2018 at 08:07:36
Evertonians have been scarred by traumatic transfer windows in the past and now, like a damaged lover, we’re insecure and jealous. Checking Digne’s phone while he’s in the toilet and asking casually who the girl is who ‘liked’ his status last night.

You can’t blame us, after years of Moyes’s angry little face in August saying through gritted teeth “We’d have liked a few more faces for sure, but we’ll get on with it” after yet another late deal falls through.

These are different times though.

Simon Smith
198 Posted 01/08/2018 at 08:23:49
For those moaning that the transfers are taking too long let’s take a step back to last summer.
The transfers were flying in. Before you knew it we had half a new team. Bar the Sigurdsson transfer, the others were done and dusted very quickly. We all thought this is the new Everton, slick and decisive! I don’t need to point out how that worked out for us.
Maybe this time we are making sure the players we buy are at least right for the club.
Andrew Clare
199 Posted 01/08/2018 at 08:28:35
We are all desperate to see signings as we know the current squad will be lucky to finish mid table.
What is so frustrating is that we also know that three further first team quality signings would have us facing a much more brighter future.
The trouble is we are running out of time.
Andrew Ellams
200 Posted 01/08/2018 at 08:33:17
Simon, that's part of the problem. One way or another this club struggles to get it right. Although in this case there is a little hint of paranoia in the air.
Mike Allison
201 Posted 01/08/2018 at 08:54:42
Andrew, 199. This squad finished 8th last year in a shambolic season. Why is it going to get worse this season with a new manager, a sense of direction and the opportunity for last season’s new signings to be settled in? We also have talented and promising young players who are a year older and more experienced.

We have the seventh best set of players in the division before we sign anyone. Burnley finished above us but player for player were stronger and they will be likely to have the distraction of the Europa League, which did for us last year. Our biggest enemy is panic and negativity.

I fear we’re going to be repeating last year’s mistakes, although the two actual signings so far look like good ones. I’d rather we got rid of players who won’t contribute than brought new ones in. A smaller, tighter squad where people need to take more responsibility and there are no disgruntled unselected players knocking around can make a big difference.

Dennis Stevens
202 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:01:27
Yes Simon, let's think back to last summer - but let's not rewrite history, as seems to have become quite popular this summer. Many people queried at the time how Rooney, Klaasen & Sigurdson would fit together in the same team. Most were keen to see a new left back & almost everybody expressed concern over the lack of an adequate replacement for Lukaku. The general opinion seemed to be that we'd spent a lot of money, often overpaying for players, failed to strengthen key areas of weakness in the team & ended up with an unbalanced squad with too many ageing players.
Rian Magee
203 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:11:58
Ed @181

No, no thts not what I'm saying. I'm saying neither are really up for being first team choices. Both are decent back ups, at least for this trasnitional season we have. I memtioned keeping Martina specifically because its unfair to write him off considering 90% of what we've seen of him has been when he's been played in entirely the wrong position. As I say, neither are cloee to being regular first team starters anymore, for very different reasons.

I hope I'm wrong but the lack of an announcement / length of time his Digne deal is taking, is making me nervous that he's had a change of mind. I know there's loads to do to finalise a deal but we seem to take 24 hours longer than any other club. I hope I'm just sufferig nerves from a lck of caffiene an the deal will confirmed in the next hour or so!

Bobby Thomas
204 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:15:44
Mike #201

If we go into the season with our existing central defenders we will struggle to finish 7/8th. We are paying the price for years of poor recruitment in the position. We cannot get the next one wrong.

In fact, despite the millions of pounds spent, the spine of the side lacks pace, physicality and verve. It needs legs, especially up top and at the back.

Rian Magee
205 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:16:31
I meant to add, in terms of Baines not being a starter, I'm referring to his usual full back role. I do like the idea of him being further up the pitch, he's still got fairly sweet distribution and is generally lookinbto move and pss it forward, he just hasn't got the legs for the full on defensive side of being full back anymore, or so it would seem.
Rob Halligan
206 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:18:08
Fulham agreed to sign Alfie Mawson over the weekend. The player had his medical yesterday morning, but as far I can see, he still hasn't signed, or at least it hasn't been confirmed by Fulham.

What a shambolic, joke of a club Fulham are.

James Marshall
207 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:18:13
I think it's typical of all supporters to have the same feelings you see on here about the time it takes to seal transfers - you just don't notice it with other clubs because you don't spend all day trawling the Internet for transfer news in such detail for ******** (insert club/player name).

I'll lay money you'd read exactly the same stuff on the message board of any other Premier League club.

James Marshall
208 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:23:20
A quick look at the Alfie Mawson situation shows that it's been ongoing since the beginning of July.

Fulham really are a joke.

Rian Magee
209 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:24:13
James, thats a very good point. All we see is the rumours and then the finalised news..none of the guff and nerves in between. As Mark @197 rightly points out, a lot of our impatience and nerves comes from the fact we've had quite a few traumatic transfer windows lately, whih have made a lot of us anxious for a variety of reasons. The fact tht the internet is sturated with accounts posting things before the official announcement doesn't help us either.
Chris Gould
210 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:29:58
You're absolutely correct, James. Just read West Ham's fans moans from last summer and Spurs' fans whines this summer. Man Utd fans aren't thrilled about this window either.
There haven't been many transfers of players this window that I felt we could have and should have been in for. I expect a flurry of activity in the next week and still believe we'll get 4 more in.
Digne took some convincing, and who can blame him for hoping for offers from elsewhere?
David Greenwood
211 Posted 01/08/2018 at 09:55:24
Leipzig have been linked with some fella called Lookman all summer. Still haven’t signed him. Another joke of a club.
Kase Chow
212 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:04:37
It’s done. It’s on twitter official welcome video
Kase Chow
213 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:04:43
It’s done. It’s on twitter official welcome video
Victor Yu
214 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:08:06
It is now official.

He says this though:

"...The Club has brought in a lot of players and we are building to bring some success in the Premier League..."

Have we? I hope he wasn't confused like when Robinho signed with Man City.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
215 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:13:39
The reason Mawson hasn't signed for Fulham is because he has heard he might be wanted by Everton so is hoping for a better offer from a bigger club
Paul Mackay
216 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:20:47
I like the look of this crazy cat.
Jamie Sweet
217 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:24:58
All done. Seen him in the shirt.

The announcement video looks like we launched a camera into space, and then it landed back at Finch Farm at the feet of young Lucas.

So I guess the delay was because we were waiting for clearance from air traffic control.

Bloody aviation authorities. Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery that lot!

Lenny Kingman
218 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:26:28
Looks like Cheryshev is coming too. What a player he may turn into for the Blues.

Silva is turning into a transfer mastermind. Keep up the good work, a few more needed yet.

Victor Yu
219 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:28:02
If Cheryshev comes then surely Lookman will be leaving?
Danny Baily
220 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:30:41
Better late than never! We're just a CB away from a solid starting 11.
Lenny Kingman
221 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:32:05
Victor

Yes I would say that will be the case. Maybe its a done deal with Lookman.

Andrew Ellams
222 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:37:49
Where is the Cheryshev story coming from?
Lenny Kingman
223 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:40:39
Its in the Mail, Mirror, Sun and other sources. Google Cheryshev transfer and they're all over it.

Hope its true as he was wonderful at the World Cup.

Brent Stephens
224 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:43:50
Digne. Official. On the EFC email etc.

Hope he's a good un.

Brent Stephens
225 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:44:33
On the EFC website. No 12.
James Hughes
226 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:45:18
Danny, as long as that CB is not Mawson. We don't need another Swansea player or another from a relegated club
Andrew Ellams
227 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:50:56
James, so if Pickford were to move on you wouldn't take Butland? Mawson would improve our squad.
Andrew Ellams
228 Posted 01/08/2018 at 10:57:32
Just googled Cheryshev's stats and he's 27, made 74 career league appearances, mainly over various loans with 9 goals and only has 16 caps for Russia. He doesn't scream superstar.
James Marshall
229 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:02:02
See, that 'reveal' video must have taken ages to film/edit. Drones can be a pain to use and perhaps his initial facial expression was a bit too Aaron Lennon.
James Hughes
230 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:03:19
Andrew, no I wouldn't but I don't make the final decision. My opinion/feeling is stay away from players from relegated clubs. Not based on any scientific approach or analysis just my opinion/feeling.

Pickford has been a pleasant exception to the rule

Justin Doone
231 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:05:12
I know very little about Digne but I wish him all the best and I'll judge him when I see him play. I hope he's got the talent but more importantly
the desire, fight, spirit to do well.
Our last Barca signing had pace and skill but he may as well have been a greyhound as he had nothing else to give especially if the ball was more than 10cm off the floor.
The same for our manager. Not my first choice, probably about 10th but I'm hoping for good entertaining football, playing as a team and without relegation worries. That would be a massive improvement on last season. Then next season start to improve play and results. Comfortable top 10 is all I'm asking.
I don't care about the preseason results, it's all about preparation and hopefully keeping fit.
But please no Russian or Dutch football players, especially not midfielders. Past history tells us they are best left alone, Robben would be the only acception.
Amit Vithlani
232 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:06:50
Welcome Lucas! Does anyone know if he can play as the left CB in a back 3?

Bill Griffiths
233 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:07:00
Anyone know how you pronounce his name?
Steve Brown
234 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:10:00
James @ 230, yes stay away from players from relegated clubs... and also managers.
Sam Hoare
235 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:11:37
Amit, he’s played as left of three centre backs on a few occasions and done pretty well from what I can glean.
Laurie Hartley
236 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:19:22
I have just watched his first interview on the official site and he seems genuinely happy to be coming to Everton and likes the manager so that's encouraging to me.

As some have alluded above this may not necessarily be a bad thing for Baines - Silva may have a different role in mind for him in midfield.

Now we need that left side centre back which I feel confident is going to happen in the next few days.

That would be the whole left side strengthened and would make me feel much more hopeful going into the new season.

I think we are nearly there.

Rian Magee
237 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:19:48
Delighted to have this Digne man on board!!
Grant Rorrison
238 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:19:55
Stoke want Williams on loan. Happy days.
Len Hawkins
239 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:30:32
Anyone live near Goodison? They want to borrow a pen.
Liam Heffernan
240 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:32:31
I'd worry if we bring in Cheryshev . There was huge question mark ver the Russian team, with regard to doping . We should never bring a player in just on a few games in the World Cup . As highlighted above his pedigree does not seem that great .
Geoff Trenner
241 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:36:47
Where did you hear that Grant?
Les Green
242 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:37:42
Buried in the Echo report of Dine signing up was a reference to Stoke showing an interest in Williams on loan
Brian Murphy
243 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:38:12
Correct Liam, the last thing we need are more Dopes at our club, we are fully stocked in that department.
Joe McMahon
244 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:39:58
Fantastic at last! Bet he doesn't turn his back on shots. At least Silva can see weaknesses in defence that have been obvious for the past 3 years.
Grant Rorrison
245 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:41:31
Geoff 242. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6014539/Stoke-keen-sign-Everton-defender-Ashley-Williams-loan.html
Steve Ferns
246 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:46:57
Williams gone to stoke, but seems we pay some of his wages for the season. No idea how much. His contract is up next summer so this is goodbye really. Makes sense to just get him out the door even if we have to pay some.
Brian Hennessy
247 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:50:24
Would love to see the back of Williams. If we could get rid of him and Schneiderlin before the window closes that would be a great bit of business.

It's just a hunch, but I have a feeling these two are not only under performing on the pitch, but also have a negative effect in the dressing room.

I can't stand the pair of them.

Andrew Ellams
248 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:50:52
Already gone Steve?
Dominic Tonge
249 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:50:58
this is a quality signing - signed a French international, he was cracking at Roma, he’s played with Idrissa Gueye before, so that may help him settle quicker, and it’s not his first overseas move having moved to Italy from France, and moved to Spain after that- he’s obviously adaptable to different styles of football, and has mixed it at the highest levels .
A quality player, and also the signing means no more cuco martina at left back ! Brilliant.
James Marshall
250 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:51:22
Bill@233

Digneamite.

Bill Griffiths
251 Posted 01/08/2018 at 11:54:50
Ha Ha James.
Lordy Hughes
252 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:01:52
He’s signed it official. Phew. And his command of English is amazing especially given he is French and has been playing in Spain for years . Link
Jimmy Digney
253 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:04:50
Bill (#233), no-one had a problem pronouncing my name in Toxteth, mate. There's a few of us there.
Andrew Ellams
254 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:06:48
Anybody seen Palace are close to signing Max Meyer on a free. Why would we be in for Cherysev if Meyer is going on a Bosman?
Chris Gould
255 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:09:57
That reveal video was so basic!! Lasted 10 seconds and could have been put together by a 10 year old on a Macbook.

Still, glad it's done. Hopefully more to follow. I actually think we'll get Mina once Barcelona come to their senses and drop their ridiculous asking price. Man Utd are unlikely to be interested. Mourinho will want someone proven.

James Marshall
256 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:11:35
Andrew - Max Meyer is known to have a bad attitude. If you have a look online there appear to be a number of good reasons he's without a club and going to Palace.
Shane Corcoran
257 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:12:12
Liam #241, a huge question mark over the Russian team doping?

Where did you see this large punctuation mark?

David Greenwood
258 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:12:14
Cheryshev been rumoured for hours now. Still hasn’t signed.

What’s the delay? Typical Everton.

Andrew Ellams
259 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:14:53
James, I'd take him of Cheryshev anytime. He's good enough to play at the top.
Fran Mitchell
260 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:15:37
Andrew Ellams, no idea if we are after Cherysev, but I guess we (and many other clubs) aint after Meyer because:

A) massive wage demands
B) massive signing on fee

Bosman transfers can often be more expensive.

Also a good chance that he has demanded a 'lowish' release fee in his contract, meaning if he does fulfil his potential, he will soon be off to a bigger club. If not, Palace will have an expensive flop on their books.

Derek Taylor
261 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:16:16
Obviously read Sam's signing off report and taken action to improve defence. Hopefully, Silva has abandoned thoughts of regional marking but after he's got a central defender in the bag every effort is required to buy some goals.

For certain, Tuson, CL and Niasse won't solve that problem . All look Championship fodder to me !

Anthony Hawkins
262 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:17:16
The BBC are reporting this as a done deal.
Derek Taylor
263 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:18:23
Meant zonal but I swear our defenders were in the next region on Saturday !
Drew O'Neall
264 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:20:08
Brian 248

I had the pleasure of meeting Ashley Williams and I would suggest your ‘hunch’, at least as far as he is concerned, is based on your misinterpretation of his body language and frustrated outbursts on the pitch.

The man is humble, polite and full of integrity.

When things aren’t going right for you it’s very difficult to show emotion, especially to a baying crown, and have it interpreted as anything but bad attitude.

I myself was ‘a narc’ as a player and I got narcier the worse I got as the years caught up on me.

If your hunches are based on nothing, keep them to yourself because otherwise they are just divisive and negative and god knows we have enough of that around already.

Ray Roche
265 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:23:13
A done deal – photo of him wearing the shirt on the Guardian site.
Rob Halligan
266 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:31:48
David 261, I heard about the Ashley Williams rumour to stoke about 45 minutes ago, and apparently he still hasn't gone. FFS, we can't even get rid of players in double quick time. Absolute joke.
James Marshall
267 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:44:28
Right, so that's a Digne deal, what shall we complain about next?

The lack of transfer activity in the last hour?

Rob Halligan
268 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:48:30
James, I'm going complain about me season ticket not yet arriving, despite the fact I can't use it for another 17 days. FFS, what's the club doing? I want to get it and hold it in me hand!!!
Si Cooper
269 Posted 01/08/2018 at 12:57:51
Justin (#231), not sure if I reading your post right but what about Dennis Bergkamp, Jaap Stam, Edwin Van Der Sar, Arnold Muhren, or Frans Thijssen? I think they would all count as quality imports, and there are many others who I'm sure could have done well in English football if they had come in their prime.

Also, I always thought Geri lacked real pace. He needed to get distance between himself and the man he had just got past to make himself more effective. Too slight to protect the ball in close quarters.

Lack of top-end pace is my worry for Lookman's future as well, although if he operates well enough in and around the box then he will only really need explosive 5-10 yard bursts anyway.

Digne looks like a great addition but if there were to be 2 to 3 others of similar pedigree in central defence / defensive mid and striker then I will be much happier.

Tony J Williams
270 Posted 01/08/2018 at 13:05:01
"Perhaps try Baines alongside Ghana in Defensive mid in last pre-season game? Less of a distance to get forward and make those ‘telling passes’, more balance, slot in perfectly when Digne does get up the pitch? "
^
This
Derek Knox
271 Posted 01/08/2018 at 13:09:27
Fair point Tony@273, still require a left footed CB for that to work effectively, otherwise there's a void through the middle.

Hope Schneiderlin moves on as I think the whole unit is thrown out of kilter with him any where near the team.

Jamie Evans
272 Posted 01/08/2018 at 13:15:18
Hello Lucas and welcome.

Is it goodbye to Leighton, I wonder?

Tom Bowers
273 Posted 01/08/2018 at 13:24:12
Age catches up with all of us and it soon does as a professional footballer unless you are a keeper' in which case you can get quite a few years longer at the top.

Speed and awareness are the two things that wane first and on defence it cannot be entertained.

Everton's old brigade have been consistent performers for a long time (Jags, Baines and Williams with Swansea) but sadly they can only play bit parts this coming season.

It is apparent that the Blues do need another central defender and midfielder as I do believe they are still vulnerable especially in tackling roles but I am sure Silva is fully aware of that.

If they can fill those roles quickly then we can feel a lot better for the new season but if not, I fear the two new signings may not compensate for the deficiencies in other areas.

Andrew Bentley
274 Posted 01/08/2018 at 13:46:07
Now that Digne is onboard, we do need to look at signing a new spine to the team. A CB, CM and CF are all needed (none of our striking options are enough quality and I worry where the goals are going to come from).

With a little over a week left I do worry that we only seem to be looking at CB options. Need to get Mina wrapped up quickly but worry that Utd are going to take him.

In midfield, I’m surprised that there are no rumours about Danny Drinkwater. Doesn’t get any game time and I think he would be a great loan signing for someone.

Striker however is the real issue, no one of real quality out there that really springs to mind. Let’s hope Brands & Silva have some surprises in store.

If we did get 3 new people in then surely
It would be the end of Williams, Schneiderlin, and Niasse

Jamie Crowley
275 Posted 01/08/2018 at 13:47:37
Derek @274 -

There's a void in the middle of our defense with or without a left-footed CB!

I like the idea of Baines being tested the last preseason game next to Gana. That might work and it's worth giving it a look.

We're not going to get in Silva's mark of 6 new players. Just bring in a CB next week please and I'll be ok with this transfer window. We need a CB desperately and Keane simply isn't performing well in this system. He's left too exposed and doesn't have the pace.

Last summer business - get a CB pronto.

Phil Smith
276 Posted 01/08/2018 at 13:51:37
Glad he's signed and he's quality to boot. Now we need a centre back and a creative midfeilder, unless he's intending on Richarlison playing in the middle and Lookman out wide. Defo. need a big centre half tough.
James Marshall
277 Posted 01/08/2018 at 13:54:11
The whole thing about a centre half being left footed for balance is an anomaly in my view. As an example England played very nicely in the world Cup with 3 right footed defenders.

No need for a left footed defender really.

Grant Rorrison
278 Posted 01/08/2018 at 14:15:28
The Guardian says we're in for Lascelles. Surely there's a deal to be done there involving Baines + cash? We could throw in Jagielka as a sweetener.
Michael Burke
279 Posted 01/08/2018 at 14:33:34
Lascelles was the best player on the pitch for the Newc vs Eve game last season. Mind, that doesn’t say much. It was possibly one of the worst games I have ever seen in my life. He was big, strong, organised his defence well and led the team. We could do with some leaders!
Chris Gould
280 Posted 01/08/2018 at 14:34:57
The Ndiaye rumour sounds plausible. Played very well with Gueye at World Cup.

Stoke taking Williams on loan with the potential to then sign him on a free next summer, may be our way of sweetening the deal.

Bill Griffiths
281 Posted 01/08/2018 at 14:35:55
Andrew (#277), sure you haven't been peeking at the Red Echo site? They indicate that we may be after Danny Drinkwater on loan.
James Marshall
282 Posted 01/08/2018 at 14:36:12
Why would Newcastle sell him to us though?

It's only a Guardian reporter claiming we're interested on his Twitter feed anyway.

This is how wars start.

Sam Hoare
283 Posted 01/08/2018 at 14:39:44
Lascelles would definitely be right up there in terms of the CBs rumoured. Strong, relatively quick, good age and a leader of sorts (though so we’re Keane, Klaassen, Rooney etc).

He would be a certain upgrade on what we have though doubt Newcastle would let him go cheap. £30-40m?

Derek Knox
284 Posted 01/08/2018 at 14:40:36
I have seen that too Grant, would much rather have him than most of the others, especially Rojo, we have been allegedly associated with.

SSN reporting that Alfie Mawson has not actually signed for Fulham yet, but is expected to for £15M, why, why, why haven't we been even interested, yet £28M for Rojo seems to be okay, not by us but allegedly by those in the know.

I think Newcastle could be persuaded as they want the cash, possibly a player or two thrown in, as has been suggested.

Chris Gould
285 Posted 01/08/2018 at 14:40:40
Grant, we just bought in one left back because we're desperate for cover in that position. Getting rid of Baines would mean we'd have to find another! It was hard enought getting one in, let alone two.
Robinson is probably not yet good enough and off on loan to Bolton, so that would leave Martina to cover.
Soren Moyer
286 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:02:10
Bienvenue mon ami. 2 down 5 more to go!
Brent Stephens
287 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:12:50
Seen the length of his index finger in that Grauniad photo!!
Link
Trump would be envious (Mr - not Mrs unless it wasn't Donald's).

A fee that could rise to £18m according to the Grauniad. £18m! Throwing money away left right and centre. Why can't we complete deals before season's start! At a reasonable price! Typical Everton, that.

Amit Vithlani
288 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:14:18
"We could throw in Jagielka as a sweetener."

If your idea of a sweetner is curdled milk (which probably turns faster than Jags), sure, go for it.

James Marshall
289 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:22:48
Brent@290

LD Phone Home...

Digne told evertontv: “Everton is a big club with a great history. I want to play games, win games and excite the fans with the quality of our football "

I really wish they wouldn't just trawl this line out all the time.

Mike Dolan
290 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:27:36
Two real quality signings so far. I think Baines who has been a great player for this club should hang them up now and give the backup gig to Robinson.

We definitely need two center backs before the season starts if just to replace Funes-Mori and Williams.

Schneiderlin I could probably live with for a while, not the perfect fit but with faster players now on both wings it will mask both his and Sigurdssons lack of pace. It's no coincidence that Schneid's form really picked up last year after Coleman and Walcott were in the side.

I am appreciating the cautious approach that Brands and Silva are taking. We are not going to become an elite club overnight but if you take the squad that Koeman inherited compared it the one we have this morning, all the missteps along the way and the gaps that still need to be filled notwithstanding we might be not that far away from where we could have expected to be on that original 5 year plan. Looking forward to this pivotal season.

A couple of tweaks here and there and we might just have a surprisingly good side.

Soren Moyer
291 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:32:28
Quote, "It's no coincidence that Schneid's form really picked up last year after Coleman and Walcott were in the side."

Mike, I didn't notice any improvements!

Dean Johnson
292 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:36:33
Bienvenue Lucas

Due to him being French, does this mean that we don't pronounce the 's' at the end of his name?

Mike Gaynes
293 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:40:33
David #211 and #261, love ya man, you crack me up.

At least with Digne's deal done, our gray-skies chorus (Victor, Chris Watts, Andy Bone, Lee Paige et al) can stop wailing about how long it's taking, and how Digne must be stalling for a better offer, and how we can't close a deal... argh.

Welcome, Lucas, I've seen you play and I'm delighted you're here!

Amit Vithlani
294 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:40:57
Brent @ 290 I think you will find that Lucas is in fact using two pointy foam hands in the photo.

Always wondered why Trump never walks around with a pair to hide is un-naturally small hands.

Martin Berry
295 Posted 01/08/2018 at 15:46:52
Quality signing which means top quality on either flank now. Is this the end of Baines? As obviously Digne has not been bought as a bench polisher.

I have a feeling it's going to be a very interesting runup to the end of the transfer window.

Mal van Schaick
296 Posted 01/08/2018 at 16:13:45
A decent start with an experienced defender, now we need to push on get the spine of the squad as some others have said.

We also need a clear out to make intentions clear to the fans.

James Marshall
297 Posted 01/08/2018 at 16:16:23
From the Echo:

However, as the club's new defender revealed after signing for the Blues, he had been in contact over this potential move for around two months.

Digne said in his first Everton interview: "Two months ago they called my agent and when they asked if I was interested or not I said: 'Yes, I am interested'.

"After I spoke with the coach the feeling was very good and I said I wanted to come to the Premier League and to Everton."

That shows, even though on the face of things the club look like they have had a quiet transfer window so far, there has been work going on behind-the-scenes to try and get deals over the line.

There had been some fears recently that the Blues had not done enough with their time in the transfer window so far, with only two signings coming through the door.

However, with a new director of football and new manager to assess the squad - plus the added distraction of a World Cup - there were always going to be roadblocks in the way of potential deals.

With just a few days left to go of the transfer window and a number of areas still in desperate need of additions, there were Blues supporters admitting their concern on whether more transfers would take place.

Knowing that the club has been in touch with Digne long before his move eventually came to light shows that Brands is working hard to bring in the targets he and Silva want.

The club's director of football has been clear from his first press conference that he has been hard at work in contact with agents over potential moves.

And it's surely not beyond the realms of possibilty that the next few days will bring to light even more behind-the-scenes work as more new faces are brought into the club.

With eight days left of the transfer window to go, it will be interesting to see who is brought in next.

Rian Magee
298 Posted 01/08/2018 at 16:23:27
Amit @288 Kudos to you sur!! haha great speak
Eric Yarker
299 Posted 01/08/2018 at 16:27:28
The BBC Sport website picture of him looks a spit of Delofeau; let's hope he's more consistent and sticks round a bit longer.
David Ellis
300 Posted 01/08/2018 at 16:38:31
Is it me or is this transfer window wandering into “exceeds expectations “ territory? I thought we'd have to shift players and work with what we've got.

So far we've added two first-teamers in positions that needed urgent attention. We've cleared got a couple more irons in the fire in the two other positions we are weakest (central defence and central midfield).

And we've made progress on the other side of the ledger with Rooney, Klaassen, Robles, Funes Mori all gone and talk of Williams and Pennington likely to follow.

9 days to go and this is coming together.

James Marshall
302 Posted 01/08/2018 at 16:54:06
Digne has a tattoo across his chest that reads, "I Never Walk Alone".

Oh dear.

Mike Benjamin
303 Posted 01/08/2018 at 17:04:30
Totally left field, literally: Why not play Baines on the left side of midfield with Richarlison through the middle or instead of Walcott if not fit? The wings at least would provide better service.
Neil Copeland
304 Posted 01/08/2018 at 19:51:23
James, he will have to get it altered by replacing Never with Would Rather. Although if he was to put one over on the RS I wouldn’t care.
Tony Dunn
305 Posted 01/08/2018 at 21:45:59
However he does for us, and I'm sure there's plenty on here slagging him off already for some perceived slight or not having a blue car ...

He will always have my utmost respect as a genuine human being for his actions after the Barcelona terrorist attack last year. He rushed out of his apartment, near to the attack, with towels, water and generally helped people, who were terrified and disoriented. Even if he hadn't of signed for us, he was always a few notches up on my perception of a spoilt millionaire footballer.

Welcome to Everton, I'm sure you'll fit in.

Jerome Shields
306 Posted 01/08/2018 at 23:20:35
Digne is going to be first choice at left-back. Baines will play when Digne isn't playing and that will be that.
Andrew Bentley
307 Posted 02/08/2018 at 10:19:15
Bill (#281) - ha! Not at all. Away on holiday at the moment so reliant on ToffeeWeb for news.

Just seen the Drinkwater link in the rumours section. Think he’d be a great addition for us on loan. Let’s hope we get it done. Still need a CB and Striker though. Tosun et al does not fill me with confidence. Look at the difference in our performances in the league with and without Lukaku. Having a 20 goal a season striker is the difference between relegation and challenging.

Would love us to go for Vardy - pace upfront and scores goals. Him, Richarlison and Walcott would terrify defences!

Also just seen the tweet from Paul Joyce that Williams, Mirallas, Vlasic and Martina have been told to train away from the main squad. Disappointed in Vlasic if that’s the case but the other 3 I’ll happily drive them to their next club!!

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