The talented 25-year-old has been the subject of plenty of speculation regarding his future after it emerged that he would not be renewing his contract at Shakhtar Donetsk where he spent five years following a
£40m €25m move.
He reportedly had offers from Chelsea and big-spending West Ham this summer while AC Milan, Inter Milan, Atletico Madrid and Tottenham were also in the mix.
According to reports, Everton appear to have won the race to sign him, with the Daily Mail claiming that Marco Silva's personal intervention helped seal the agreement.
Sky Sports claim that he will travel to Merseyside within the next 24 hours to undergo a medical which will most likely be conducted on Wednesday morning.
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1 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:42:00
Hope this one is true.
2 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:43:14
3 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:43:16
4 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:44:11
Sam, he'll play in a midfield two beside a holding player.
6 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:46:22
7 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:47:23
8 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:49:06
The report states that Marco Silva's involvement was crucial in securing Bernard's signature, and the winger is excited to link up with his countryman Richarlison in the Blues' attack. The Blues beat Chelsea, Atletico Madrid and West Ham in their bid to land the forward.
This would be fantastic if we get him as Arsenal and the other lot were after him.
9 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:49:50
10 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:49:53
11 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:16
Quite a coup if it comes off and still only 26, I like the fact all the signings we have made so far are young with improvement in them.
12 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:26
13 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:29
All other sources seem to be creating confusion over the Mina situation, citing Lyon's re-emerged bid. Confused.com, I am.
Hope this has mileage to it, as many top sides were seeking his signature, especially on a free.
14 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:38
15 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:45
16 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:51:50
17 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:52:01
Where the heck did this come from?!
Does he play out wide on the left (Richalrson's there?) or behind the striker (Sigurdsson might be nervous?)?
I wonder what the plan is for him in Silva's mind.
Either way he looks to be one hell of a good addition. This is a very pleasant surprise.
18 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:55:10
if this comes off, we get a CB, and we dump Bolasie it'll be a window on par with the Martinez Barry-McCarthy-Lukaku summer.
There will still be needs, but for a first window for M&M if those three things happen it's an A+ grade in my book taking all the circumstances into account.
19 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:55:12
20 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:55:44
21 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:56:40
22 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:57:12
A quick tricky midfielder? Oh please let it be true.
23 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:58:30
24 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:59:01
I freaking love it. Tricky little shit who clearly has personality.
I want this guy - like now. This dude is the creativity we've been needing since Arteta left.
25 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:59:16
I have more faith in Brands than anyone else who has been working for Everton over the last few years. I have more confidence than usual he can get Bernard and Mina signed .
We are a more professional outfit since Brands' arrival, an inspired appointment by Mr Moshiri.
26 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:59:22
27 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:59:34
29 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:00:04
30 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:01:47
31 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:03:36
Replace Stoke with Burnley.
If this comes off then Brands will have pulled off a blinder here. Snapping up one of the most coveted free transfers under the noses of several CL clubs?
32 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:04:06
33 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:04:27
One in the eye for all the people on here lambasting Brands and Silva for not signing all and sundry in five minutes.
This one has 'come from nowhere' because, in my opinion, we have someone who is doing his job well and in the right way.
34 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:05:15
Just wanted to be first!
Seriously, this could be the link between midfield and potentially good quick strike force we have been crying out for.
Agree re defence but maybe this professional management team can do that too?
36 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:06:13
37 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:06:28
38 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:07:15
I dont like getting too excited by YouTube but from what I see he looks damn good!
39 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:07:18
40 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:08:26
41 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:09:26
Connor @ 4 points out he could play in a midfield 2 next to the holding mid?
I wonder if Silva drops him and looks to him to be the midfield man pulling the strings and creating the chances and breaks?
I dunno, that' why they get paid the big bucks and I watch.
42 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:12:05
Think of the panto horse.
Now Digne reckons he can play centre half so if we put Digne on Bernards shoulders and buy them a really long top we could have a tall commanding centre half with pace.
Thing is would that count as one or two players on the pitch ?
43 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:13:27
44 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:14:46
Warm yer hands up mate, there's a pen & paper here ready for your John Hancock!
45 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:17:23
I yearn for a return of the days of yore when Brazilian players had such glorious names.
46 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:20:23
Isn't that us fucked then? Have we ever, a single time, gotten a work permit for a player on a late-ish deal? That's like the death of this.
Swear to God if this falls through because of a fucking work permit I'm going to throw a chair through my fucking window.
47 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:20:40
It's actually Mick Bernard.
That'll put the squads average age up.
48 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:21:12
49 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:21:14
We got Bernard.
50 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:21:58
Brands and Silva appear to be classy operators.
It's going to be an exciting 3 days.
51 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:23:04
52 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:23:55
53 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:24:14
According to the Echo
54 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:26:27
55 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:26:53
I've the memory of a field mouse, I can't recall if Funes Mori needed one.
I do recall being disappointed numerous times as work permits failed to come to fruition.
56 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:27:41
57 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:27:43
58 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:28:20
After we missed out on Malcom, we were always going to go for a Barnard.
Anyway... love how we kept this one totally under the radar. Brilliant stuff. We might lose a few games, but hopefully it will 5-4 every time we do.
59 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:28:36
And you know what I love about this? That there wasn't even a sniff of this in any of the rumors until a few hours ago.
Told ya Brands was working under the radar!
60 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:29:39
Yeah he is, an attacking midfielder.
61 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:29:41
62 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:30:03
63 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:30:11
Finally, Everton are shaping up like a proper club, making our intention known. The days of signing 30-year-olds have gone.
64 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:31:04
65 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:32:06
Must be true.
66 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:32:46
Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery
Bernard Cribbins (who once saved my Grandad from drowning - true story)
67 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:33:20
68 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:33:28
69 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:33:32
One or two new CDs and I can't wait for Southampton on August 18th.
Does this mean only one defensive mid, with Siggy and Bernard both playing in the midfield three, or is it an either/or?
70 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:33:40
71 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:34:30
72 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:35:13
73 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:35:13
The Manuel Fernandes deal was the one that killed me off the most I was a young lad then and thought he was quality I was devastated when he didnt sign.
You live and learn Ill get excited when hes at finch farm with the royal blue on.
74 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:35:17
75 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:36:42
76 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:36:56
77 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:37:32
79 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:38:09
Bernard Wright aka Bernie the bolt
80 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:38:15
81 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:38:34
82 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:38:35
83 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:39:40
84 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:40:35
Well done to M&M if it comes off.
85 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:40:51
86 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:40:59
DUNGA KAKA and DUDU!
87 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:42:08
88 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:42:15
89 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:42:23
Mike G, Tierney will be absolute class my fiend. I'd still have him and play him Cb or left midfield with a Gana type but that can pass. Baningime will oust Gueye and Schneids soon hopefully. If Marcel can't sell Schneids. Exchange with the French lads for their CB?
90 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:43:20
91 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:44:10
Interesting to see where Bernard fits in- could it be centrally given the number of wingers we have?
92 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:44:45
93 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:44:52
94 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:45:20
A 'John Hancock' is slang for a signature - he famously signed the American declaration of independence with a MASSIVE signature right across the document.
95 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:45:40
I feel like if you put together a cartoon of the English, you'd have them be those seagulls but you'd replace the words with, "PUN PUN PUN!"
I've never seen such intelligent, witty comments based upon plays-on-words ever in my life from people such as those on TW.
You love your puns, and more importantly you always do them justice.
Back to work
96 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:45:51
97 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:46:59
Great coup. He will give our team a different dimention.
Even in Martinez first season and ever since, all of our attacking play relied upon certain attackers turning and running towards opposition goal. There was a lack of any build up play in the final third.
Since Pienaar, Arteta and Osman (at his best) weve completely lacked guile in the final third.
Really chuffed with this news. Totally unexpected!
98 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:47:00
99 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:47:11
100 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:47:22
101 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:47:27
"Giz a job"
102 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:08
Jesus where do you get it?
103 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:15
104 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:37
I get the feeling Bernie might bolt before we get him, otherwise he'd be a Golden Shot.
Fan of Hendrix by the way, James?
105 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:41
Anybody who doesn't get that reference hasn't lived...!
On a serious note, this is a very exciting signing if we can pull out off!
106 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:51
107 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:55
108 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:49:07
109 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:49:09
110 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:50:23
111 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:50:51
Keith, yeah big Hendrix fan, well spotted.
Mark, I don't remember that but I do remember that Nursie's real name was BERNARD!
112 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:51:43
113 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:52:41
114 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:53:04
He can play anywhere in midfield. He naturally drifts inside when played out wide. He's a midfielder in the mold of Juninho / Coutinho and M&M no doubt envisage him pulling the strings from a deeper position.
I do tend to get overexcited whenever we sign anyone, but this signing is a different kettle of fish altogether. I think it could be the turning point that we've needed to take a massive step forward in terms of our identity and CL aspirations in the coming years.
115 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:53:47
116 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:53:59
117 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:54:27
That's the feeling I start every season with
118 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:04
I think he would be exactly what Tosun needs.
119 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:07
120 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:22
121 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:33
122 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:55
123 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:56:24
About Bernard Cribbins saving my long dead old Grandad from drowning? He was well old at the time, and loved fly fishing - he was at the Queen Mother reservoir one day and slipped over & fell into the drink. Knocked spark out and slid into the water, a passer by (Cribbins) spotted him and leapt into the water, fished (pun intended) him out and revived him on the spot.
The silly old bugger lived another 12 years thanks to Bernard Cribbins.
124 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:56:42
TY. I'm fucking jacked to the tits over this one.
125 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:57:17
Anybody want to feel my goosebumps?
126 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:57:47
127 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:57:58
128 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:58:11
129 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:58:20
130 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:58:47
Right said Fred...
131 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:59:14
And don't forget, as BERNARD said, "it's a boy, without a winkle"
Nowt wrong with Mr Manning, Rob. Good clean fun. ST landed today too mate. Panic over.
132 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:59:38
133 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:59:50
134 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:00:18
135 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:00:32
137 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:03
138 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:24
Keith, I might have to dig out some Blackadder after this. I'm over excited and sweating like a fat girl in a disco over here!
139 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:25
140 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:29
141 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:50
142 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:02:54
Very interesting, I wonder where he'll fit in.
Richarlison - Walcott - Bernard
or will he be deployed behind Tosun in a No 10 role with Sigurdsson dropping deeper? Or could he be a deep-sitting central midfield creator.
I really know nothing of the player, tbh, but it's still exciting.
143 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:02:55
144 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:03:12
145 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:03:20
So you should be, mate. On paper, it's the best signing we've made since Kanchelskis IMHO. The lads World Class.
146 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:04:01
147 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:04:07
148 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:04:53
Johnny 7 fuckin priceless
149 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:05:31
Bernard Cribbins was the man mistaken for the hotel inspector by Basil in Fawlty Towers, Mike. And voiced The Wombles!
150 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:07:02
151 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:07:11
152 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:07:31
153 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:08:10
154 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:09:11
155 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:09:21
Or lines along that ilk.
156 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:09:53
If it's good enough for Glasstranamus, it's good enough for me.
157 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:10:12
158 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:10:32
He was quite a character, try Wiki, it may give you more info!
159 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:10:57
160 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:11:25
161 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:12:09
162 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:12:10
163 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:12:36
164 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:13:33
165 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:14:12
166 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:14:25
167 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:15:05
Our attacking and creativity have certainly improved over the summer, and with 2 Brazilians of this pedigree, Goodison should be a game fun place to watch football.
I am made up too because with 2 Brazilians in the team, we are likely to be regulars on ESPN Brasil this season, meaning less time going crazy with woeful streams on woeful Brazilian net services. Now just to convince the wife that ESPN is a wise investment for our TV service...
168 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:15:22
169 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:16:27
170 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:16:31
I can just see him scoring the winner at Anfield and becoming St Bernard.
171 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:16:37
172 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:17:08
173 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:17:17
Darling: Captain Blackadder to see you sir.
Melchett: Ah, excellent. Just a short back and sides today I think
Darling: Er, that's Corporal Black, sir. Captain Blackadder is here, about the other matter sir, the secret matter.
Melchett: Ah, yes, the special mission. At ease Blackadder. Now what I'm about to tell you is absolutely tip-top-secret is that clear?
Blackadder: It is sir.
Melchett: Now, I've compiled a list of those with security clearance, have you got it Darling?
Darling: Yes sir.
Melchett: Read it please.
Darling: It's top security sir, I think that's all the Captain needs to know.
Melchett: Nonsense! Let's hear the list in full!
Darling: Very well sir. "List of personnel cleared for mission
Gainsborough, as dictated by General C. H. Melchett: You and me, Darling, obviously. Field Marshal Haig, Field Marshal Haig's wife, all Field Marshal Haig's wife's friends, their families, their families' servants, their families' servants' tennis partners, and some chap I bumped into the mess the other day called Bernard."
174 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:19:16
175 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:19:22
176 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:20:03
177 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:20:53
Darren okay mate. Must have a jar this year.
178 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:21:50
179 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:21:54
This will be a fabulous signing...but the work permit could be tricky.
The application rules for non EU players is they must have played in 30% of their national side's games in the last 3 years. It appears as if Bernard's last game for Brazil was in 2014!!
He played in Spain for a few years so could have some sort of Spanish papers. Let's hope this doesn't go pear shaped!
180 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:21:58
181 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:23:28
182 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:24:19
183 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:24:24
SURELY, SURELY the new regime which has it's head seemingly screwed on straight, would have vetted that minor fact PRIOR to the news being leaked??
184 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:24:30
Take a bow. Drop the mic. Close the thread.
185 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:25:06
Unless we get Bernards mates Bert and Maurice to join us too. Hope you are well .
186 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:27:38
187 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:29:32
Followed by Lonnie Donegan - Does your chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedside over night
188 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:29:46
189 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:30:15
Man Utd, Lyon and Tottenham probably phoning his agent as we speak. Wake up tomorrow morning to
Everton Bernard deal Hijacked by
190 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:30:42
Uli Jon Roth
191 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:31:34
192 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:31:37
I believe Marcel brands to be pretty astute in these matters, whereas the Everton of old could have easily overlooked such a trivial matter.
193 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:31:53
194 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:33:25
195 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:34:21
Bernard Anício Caldeira Duarte.
196 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:34:42
197 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:35:13
198 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:36:13
199 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:38:42
200 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:38:52
Wow, this thread is fun. It's like everybody's drunk/high on our transfer window.
201 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:40:31
202 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:41:37
203 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:41:57
204 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:42:31
205 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:43:35
206 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:44:28
Chris watts, you owe me a cone of chips lad. Had to throw mine out after you pissed on them.
207 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:44:33
208 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:44:43
Have you renewed your season ticket ? - not the one for park end, the one for the alehouse
209 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:45:12
Cheers, we needed someone to pop the bubble.
True though, he looks like a tiny monkey, like the ones they used to give you to hold in Blacklers back in the 60s so they could take a picture of you. Allegedly. I'm far too young to remember, but me dad told me.
Still, if nothing else, he can sit on Pickfords shoulder and entertain the Street End at half time.
210 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:45:22
211 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:45:33
212 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:45:52
213 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:46:20
214 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:46:33
215 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:47:02
Wonder what this means for gylfi? And Lookman
And Morgan. Need 2 monster centres backs now and cant wait for saturday
217 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:48:00
218 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:48:00
Pat - absolute classic!
220 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:49:46
221 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:51:28
222 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:53:11
223 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:53:34
No more hair related jokes please. Stop being a bunch of pussies!
224 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:54:10
225 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:54:35
Could play anywhere through the middle- including left of Holgate at CB.
226 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:55:09
227 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:55:40
228 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:56:34
That worries me though. Rojo is a Funes Mori clone to me. Not impressed, and United rejects always let us down of late. Lindelof best of their bad bunch, or the dutch lad, De ligt?
229 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:56:44
230 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:57:01
231 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:57:33
232 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:59:00
Keith, Id prefer Lindelöf as well.
233 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:59:07
234 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:59:28
Another Bernard was the Bass player in Chic (RIP) - he was super cool.
235 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:00:20
236 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:01:16
237 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:01:38
238 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:01:56
239 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:02:03
240 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:03:51
241 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:04:07
242 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:04:28
243 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:05:12
244 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:05:25
245 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:05:34
246 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:05:56
247 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:07:37
248 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:09:06
249 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:09:40
250 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:10:12
251 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:12:23
252 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:13:30
He doesn't qualify for that so can appeal on an exceptions basis, in which he needs 4 points.
He has no transfer fee, so no points there. Next one is his wages, so he needs to be in the top 25% of the top 30 players' wages at Everton. Should easily qualify there with about 80k per week, so gets 3 points. If the team he is moving from has played in the group stages or more in the Champions league in past 12 months and he has played 30% of games, another 1 point.
So, he should qualify for a work permit.
253 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:16:17
254 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:16:31
255 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:18:17
256 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:20:04
257 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:20:58
''sweating like a fat bird in a disco'' or a blind lesbian in a fish market.
Or Micky Quinn outside Greggs.
258 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:23:28
259 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:24:15
To have a nimble, mobile play maker, again, could release the full potential of these players.
260 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:25:56
James - brilliant!
261 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:27:07
Areal coup for Brands.
262 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:27:09
263 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:30:24
264 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:30:37
265 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:32:42
Sky really need to get a grip and get Roy Keane sat amongst these pricks and tell them how much shite they talk.
266 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:32:42
Sky really need to get a grip and get Roy Keane sat amongst these pricks and tell them how much shite they talk.
267 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:32:59
You obviously know your stuff.
Excuse my ignorance, but did he play in the CL with Shaktar in the last 12 mths?
268 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:33:25
Great signing, absolutely great signing!!
269 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:34:22
A shop that sells pasties, cakes etc. and a pie which is basically a cat's paw surrounded by pastry.
Heart attack central.
270 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:37:53
271 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:38:34
272 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:41:29
Check 1.03 mins in.
273 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:42:27
274 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:43:22
As for how I think we will play. Well we have a middle triangle of Gueye, Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson. Gylfi is at the tip and Gueye and Schneiderlin are the "double pivot" at the base. I expect Silva to flip the triangle. Therefore, "single pivot" at the base, and two attacking midfielders at the other end. This means Schneiderlin to sit deep and Gylfi and Bernard to be ahead of him behind the striker.
Sorry guys, in this formation the single pivot needs to be disciplined (ie static), needs to be able to tackle and pass, and to have height. Gueye can't play this role. Expect Morgan Schneiderlin to be even more secure in his place as a result of this signing.
275 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:43:49
276 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:46:10
277 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:11
Coleman ? ? Digne
Walcott Tosun Charlie
278 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:27
279 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:28
This is great news, as much as we like a whinge and a vent, so far the new management have brought in massive improvements over the dross we've signed under the previous regimes.
Mr Brands knows what he is doing and I'm very happy about that.
280 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:28
This is great news, as much as we like a whinge and a vent, so far the new management have brought in massive improvements over the dross we've signed under the previous regimes.
Mr Brands knows what he is doing and I'm very happy about that.
281 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:59
Ray S #267. Just checked them here and he played in most of the games. Just needs 2.4 games to play 30% of 8 games. Link
282 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:49:33
You seem to be playing 4 people in a triangle.
283 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:51:30
284 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:52:30
285 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:54:42
286 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:54:52
287 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:55:25
288 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:58:21
Mina must be looking more closely at this now. Hopefully he still comes in. Barcelona cannot keep him as they have used up all their Non-EU slots and so Mina has to leave. We're his only option.
289 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:02:29
Sorry for not being perfect!
However, this is a forum for discussion, where people can air their views and ask questions of fellow Evertonians.
290 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:03:59
On the face of things if we ended up with two attackers, a new left back and a couple of centre backs (let's assume Mina's coming) then you'd say we've addressed a lot of problems and had a successful window. Individually, you could make a great case for each of the players...
Richardson is a raw talent. Mina looked very raw to me. Bernard has spent the last four years in Russia (hasn't worked particularly well for us before... Bily, McGeady, Missed).
Only Digne really comes with pedigree.
Feels like it could be great fun with talented young players emerging... or it could really blow up in our face. I'm not sure that this level of uncertainty was exactly what we needed this summer.
For example we passed up on Jonny Evans. Yeah we can do better, and Mina may well be better - but he's also riskier.
I didn't want Allardyce's version of stability but this is a little riskier than I envisaged with Silva. Let's hope... COYB.
291 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:04:39
Talk of Lyon for Mina apparently, but I would expect we are offering higher wages than Lyon with all the TV money. Fingers crossed.
292 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:06:08
He won the Copa Libertadores with his home town club Athletico Mineiro 4 years ago, alongside ex-Blue Jo and Ronaldinho, in the twilight of his career.
Very promising youngster and a player of whom much was expected. Was selected for the home World Cup in 2014, but hasn't had a sniff of the national team since moving to Ukraine. He never shone for Brazil and I have no idea how he has performed in Ukraine. He kinda disappeared as far as Brazil is concerned.
If we land him, he MUST play central midfield. Who for, is open for debate. Although of similar build and style to Juninho, he of the 'Boro, he has yet to display similar quality or consistency to that very good player.
293 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:11:35
294 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:11:50
So the guy must know that this is not a 'flash in the pan' move. Hopefully too getting him on board will attract other players to us.
Tom @275 remind me who that was, I was thinking Bernie Wright, but that was Birmingham, or Walsall!
295 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:11:52
296 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:11:53
I realize you know entirely more than I regarding all things football, never mind all things Silva, but,
I think Gana should play the holding role in lieu of Schneiderlin.
He has an engine that doesn't quit, and he is a ball winner and a much, much better tackler. He will actually win the damn ball back and shut down the opposition. All he needs to do, after doing what he frankly does best, is move the damn ball off his feet to someone - anybody - else and get the play moving forward.
Schneids isn't fierce enough in front a a currently weak back duo of CBs to play. The back end of the spine will be as tough as butterflies in the park!
Make of that what you will.
297 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:13:21
I hope you and your family are well friend.
298 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:17:15
299 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:17:59
300 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:20:30
301 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:21:05
If Gueye plays the holding role, and the opposition run through the middle, past Sigurdsson and Bernard, because that will be a very soft centre, then they are running straight for Gueye. He will always come out of his position and attack the player, just like the even more undisciplined Besic. Schneiderlin would hold position and drop backwards making the player slow and give others time to recover. Sure, he'd probably skin Schneiderlin regardless, the way he's playing, but we need the holding midfielder to hold. Gueye cannot hold. He never has, he never will. He loses most of his game if he holds as well. He's better as a heat seeking missile racing around intercepting, closing down, harrying and tackling, but to do all of this, we need someone to sit in there and be static. Who does static better than Schneiderlin?
302 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:23:16
Steve Ferns, glad you are back after all the sad time for you and your Mum.
303 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:24:09
I'd rather have a player who attacks the ball and has a penchant for winning the ball via interception or a tackle, rather than a player who holds shape for the sake of holding shape.
I see where you are coming from. Might be the gun-toting American in me to favor the more aggressive player and you may be right.
Schneids just drives me nuts to be honest.
One thing we can agree upon - Schneiderlin is indeed very static!!
304 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:24:20
305 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:25:31
306 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:26:33
That made me laugh more than all the Bernard puns put together.
307 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:26:37
No worries m8😀
Ive checked him out since posting.
Yes he did score against City.
Could be a catalyst for other quality signings! Now and in the future.
308 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:28:20
309 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:28:58
310 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:30:32
Schneiderlin has been a good player for us in the past but his tackling is poor, he doesn't have mobility, and he rarely passes forward. That last point is all the more frustrating as when he first signed for us there were quite a few games when his passing was excellent but that was some time ago!
311 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:30:47
Who is Bernard Cribbins?
Bernard Cribbins is a National Treasure.
312 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:32:02
313 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:34:20
314 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:34:30
315 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:34:46
Mike, I don't know how. It was from this game though: Newcastle (h) May 2012 the photo had a time stamp. It was either just before or just after he retired. I thought the game was more like 2014, and I thought my dad retired in 2010. Oh well!
316 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:37:41
317 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:39:42
I think there is an element of the two getting in each others way when Schneids and Gana play together, and lord knows many on this forum have called on previous Everton managers to play with only one defensive CM, perhaps as you say Silva will be the man to do it.
In your opinion would Silva play the inverted triangle all the time, or is he likely to adopt a different formation when facing say, Man City away?
318 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:40:01
The balance in the squad and team are no better off.
I am hoping that he can play on the left and add balance similar to Pienaar.
Drinkwater and a newer version of Jags would do before the deadline.
319 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:45:07
At the moment it is all about Everton. It's about fitness, tactics, positioning, shape, and familiarity. Getting everyone to know their jobs.
Now, we are into the regular season. He will be studying Wolves. He will workout how they will play, he will set us up in a way to exploit the weaknesses that he sees and so he will adapt the formation and tactics for that game.
As for Man City, Silva is bold enough to look for weaknesses in the Man City side and will seek to exploit them too. He rolls the dice and tries to win.
So yes, he will adopt many different formations, and so will utilise different players for different games. Read about when he played arsenal and decided to move the left winger over to the right and doubled up on the fullback at 1-0 down and exploited Arsenal's weak left whilst Wenger watched on scratching his head and doing nothing.
320 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:46:42
Could someone also point out to the Lyon president and Yerra Mina that he would be guaranteed 8 games against champions league clubs in the Premier league - every year - which is more than Lyon will muster. He will also face far better other teams than in the French league, where most of the protagonists make Morgan Schneiderlien look like Speedy Gonzalez.
321 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:49:05
322 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:56:40
4-2-3-1 is by far the formation he has used the most. He used a very narrow 4-1-3-2 (4-4-2) mostly at Estoril, then 4-2-3-1 in the final season. He played a proper 4-3-3 at Sporting, with the midfield 3 in a V shape, with Carvalho at the bottom. At Olympiacos. he played a 4-2-3-1 in the league, but Cambiasso often dropped into the back 4 and sprayed passes from there, trying to get them forwards on the counter quicker. However, they played a 4-3-3 when the fast Greek No 10 was missing from the side.
Hull was a variety of formations from the Estoril 4132 but mostly the 4-2-3-1. At Watford he played a back 3 in a 3-4-3, a 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2, he tried a variety again, but 4-2-3-1 was the one he used most. But as I said above, because it is more 4-2-1-3, which is a 4-3-3 with an inverted V shape, he calls it a 4-3-3 not 4-2-3-1. You'll notice how compact everyone has been in defence. He likes to play very narrow. Which is why we need a static holding midfielder.
323 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:58:58
Don't know if Silva will give him that chance, but it's in his game. At least it was in those three games in Russia.
324 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:00:28
As an aside, has anyone explained UK tax to him? I dont want to see footage of him at John Lennon only for him to do a u-turn like when we signed Muller!
325 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:02:09
326 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:03:46
The 4123 with Schneiderlin sat in front of the defence does worry me though, especially with our current crop of CBs. There is so little pace there.
327 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:03:58
328 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:05:05
You seem to be suggesting that Schneiderlin can not only defend but also pass.
Whenever I've seen him he is indeed in the frame but pretty much always not actually influencing the action. Maybe he is keeping a beautiful 'shape'.
As for passing, the less said about his ability in that regard, the better unless we think passing 10 m sideways is passing.
I'd sooner drop Siggy, not play Bernard, train up Gana or Big Bang to hold better, re-build McCarthy as the bionic man, anything than play Schneiderlin in a role where he is theoretically suited to but in reality, would be hopeless.
329 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:07:03
330 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:11:35
I have only seen one game where Schneiderlin played well, against Man City, where we won 4-0. That's a poor return on what he's getting paid.
I can't wait for the day where we see this parasitic stroller bite the dust!
331 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:11:38
Mark, his passing has been erratic in the extreme. The sad fact is that none of our central midfielders can kick the ball further can 30 yards without bouncing, except for Schneiderlin. Their passing is atrocious. Schniederlin is capable of hitting a 70 yard pass perfectly to feet. Check out his YouTube highlights for confirmation. Sure, he's not shown that for us for 12 months at least, but he keeps getting in Koeman's side, Allardyce's side, and now Silva's side because he is the only passing midfielder we have. Like it or not. And most of us are "not". But Silva, for whatever reason, is keeping him, and he will play. He will play nearly every game when fit. Sorry Mark, but this is what will happen.
DK - notice Gueye didn't play that game? Notice most of Schneiderlin's best performances have come when Gueye was not playing?
332 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:18:44
333 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:25:14
334 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:29:49
As I said, Bernard 'disappeared' as far as Brazil is concerned when he left for the Ukraine.
He is no longer mentioned as a possible selection for the national team and I can't recall a single feature on Brazilian TV on him. And they LOVE a success story of their overseas players.
With Atletico Mineiro he played widish midfield, often on the right, from where he would cut inside when approaching the penalty when he would get a shot off with his left foot.
I'm familiar with the player because I used to live in his home city and my first team in Brazil is Cruzeiro - Atletico's big city rivals.
I really don't know how or what position he played in the Ukraine. But for me, based on what I know, he needs to play central midfield.
335 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:32:36
336 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:32:48
signature . But the most significant thing was he
stepped forward and was the first to sign as they were
commiting an act of revolt against the King and
Steve #322 Always enjoy your posts. However, I am confused. Was he playing a 1234 or 1232 ? 2132 or 3321 ? a 1122 or a 2213 . Where is the inside right?
337 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:41:06
Surely deep down you know Schniederlin is Ill fitted to Silvas methods of play.
A player who on numerous chances has blown his audition. He simply is not mobile or nimble enough to help press, because the whole team has too. One of the key reasons Everton have looked as leaky as Delilahs bucket.
Do not get me wrong the centre halves are in the same boat. Ive observed our pressing, such as it is, being started by the front four and the rest of the team sitting there. Many of the goals scored against us in pre-season have come from teams beating our press, your basically in from there.
Schniederlin 28 peak years, potentially a leader and bags of game experience, not a jot from him. Its very much his mental capacity to deal with not being a United player, wont argue with you on his passing etc.
Energy and synchronization is whats missibg from the press. He aint the answer.
338 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:42:10
339 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:46:03
Silva plays a compact (narrow) back 4 99% of the time. He prefers a single striker. Whereas the wingers were right in line with the other midfielders in Allardyce's side, Silva pushes them right forward, almost alongside the striker. So you often see a front 3. The two wider forwards have a task to track back and to close down. The midfield 3 is always narrow and compact. The main question is are there 2 defensive midfielders or 1.
I am saying with Bernard's arrival, assuming it happens, then expect Richarlison to keep his left forward slot, and Walcott the Right Forward Slot. Therefore, Bernard either drops Gylfi to the bench or we play one defensive midfielder and an extra attacking midfielder.
To balance having two attacking midfielders, the defensive midfielder needs to be extra disciplined and hold position. The two attacking midfielders are to track back and close down and put tackles in too. Bernard played under Paulo Fonseca and so should be used to this (I only saw the Champions League games). He played Left Wing or no 10 in a 4-2-3-1 under Fonseca. MyY best guess is that he plays off the striker on the left, with Gylfi off the striker and to the right.
Therefore, to offset having an effective front 5, we need an all-out defensive midfielder and so Gueye on his seek and destroy missions is going to be a liability, leaving a big hole and our creaking back four could not cope. Instead expect to see Schneiderlin play there.
I wanted to bring Carvalho in for this reason, but clearly Silva has seen something in Morgan. Let's hope Schneiderlin ups his game fast.
Hey JP, Schneiderlin is one of three players who are not meant to press. The centrebacks and the holding midfielder keep position. The opposition try to pull these players out of position to create space, they need to resist that and hold position.
340 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:47:53
341 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:48:57
342 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:51:59
343 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:52:29
doing The Navy Math. You'll follow my drift.
What would Bally think ?
344 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:56:17
345 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:58:26
Despite the crap, the press is shaping up. But I cannot have it that Schniederlin can be part of it.
A high, squeezing press requires excellent one-on-one defenders and defensive midfielder. Schniederlin is not that guy or even close to it.
346 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:03:26
349 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:17:41
351 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:17:41
354 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:18:15
We love a trier, not a cryier like so many of our recent signings. Sure does look like we will be an attacking side to start out with until the center players from back to front can learn to defend. The makings of a future team. Would restore our faith in EFC after the first good Martinez season. Suggestions for his nickname or chant? Burner, Nursie, Bear, Nardo,
Well ARD, "He comes from Brazil with a crappy name but he's gonna burn defences alive with his game". "We are Brazil and all shall fear now that we've binned off all the money grabbing queers". "Burnie hot! Burnie Shot, scores cracking goals, Opposition lose the plot". Work in progress.
A Richarlison song could be tricky unless we call him Richie...
355 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:22:15
358 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:44:06
But I do see the profile of what he wants and how Schneiderlin ticks those boxes far more than gueye. And thats why, if Silva really does think Morgan is his guy, he will play. Lets hope next summer we identify a world class player to take him out the side.
359 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:01:41
I think you nailed it with your last sentence, next Summer. Its an important role but not that easy to fill. This has always been the position that I felt would most likely be filled by a loan signing from a top club, but that usually comes with being done at the last minute. That player has to see that he wont get game time at his club and that club has to know that they came through preseason without losing anyone to injury.
I think he knows he has a couple of players in they position, whereas he had nobody for the left side of the attack, knew Baines cant be counted on at LB, and I think hes made clear his desire for a top CB. This latest Brazilian joining us will only help our attack and make us more exciting, hopefully bringing back the atmosphere to Goodison and taking some of the pressure off our defense.
Maybe well see that central midfielder come in on loan before the end of the week. Maybe next Summer or January. But I cant honestly say the players we signed werent massively needed.
360 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:19:06
But it also means Lookman is likely going to leave.
361 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:19:59
One has limitations and plays within them. The other can do it but doesn't have the balls to give it a go. One is limited, one is a coward. Both end up playing slow, simple, sideways balls for different reasons - but it's the same outcome.
Gueye is the more dynamic. Creates more on the ball by virtue of being willing to carry it at pace and break lines. Does more of a job defensively and in attack by being willing to press the opposition and win the ball.
It's been a no brainer for me even when people were lauding Schneiderlin in his first season. They shouldn't play together as they play exactly the same role - but Gueye offers so much more in that role.
But I can see why a new manager would see Schneiderlin in pre season and think "I can do something with a player of his ability". For the exact same reason that every manager thought it about Mirallas in pre seasons past. Then come about January they see why these players aren't regulars.
362 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:31:59
Silva came out and said he's our player and that he ain't going anywhere.
It would appear Bernard will play as No 10 or No 8. Lookman is backup/competition for both Richarilson and Walcott.
If Bernard gets in the way of anyone's development, that would be Dowell's.
363 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:34:45
364 Posted 07/08/2018 at 03:00:58
I see a heck of a lot of 4-3s, 3-2s, with some problematic defending and a desire to score more than the opponent. I think Silva does not, in any way, seemingly neglect the defensive side of the equation.
But I have a feeling the first season under him may have a bit of a "Martinez" feel to it. Not in the possession football or "phenomenal" style, but in the final scores.
We're going to be prone to blowing a lead or two. We need to be very patient in my opinion with Silva and the team.
And Christ above help us if we lose to Wolves. I'll read TW if we do, but it'll be akin to watching the proverbial train wreck.
365 Posted 07/08/2018 at 03:43:42
Schneiderlin, on the other hand, lumbers around in slow motion with the game passing him by and when in position passes sideways. Maybe Schneiderlin will be better suited to this position with more attacking options going forward for him to hit a more direct pass. I just worry about his defensive duties because I just don't see him having the pace or positional sense to be effective in this role.
Having said all of that, if we land Bernard it should make a huge difference to the style of football we play. This latest signing along with the other two is going to convert me from being a pessimist to the proverbial optimist!!!
366 Posted 07/08/2018 at 04:31:12
367 Posted 07/08/2018 at 05:01:50
368 Posted 07/08/2018 at 05:21:46
Anyway, one thing we have lacked under the last two managers is the ability to be unpredictable with a substitution that completely switches the tactics of a game going wrong. Given his stark difference between Sigurdsson's and Bernard's style of play, this may be a nice card to be able to play.
369 Posted 07/08/2018 at 05:28:11
It's only because Gana knows Schneiderlin is acting as an insurance policy that he feels he not only can but must hunt the ball. I'm not a great fan of either; both are far too happy to sit down when faced with a Coutinho type who will want to ghost past them.
We need an upgrade, but we have more pressing issues elsewhere on the park, so, for now, at least, it has to be Gana for me. Schniederlin can pass a ball when we are comfortable and he has the time, but that won't happen often and when under pressure his distribution is worse than Gana's, I think its a lesser ask to get Gana to hold his position, than to get Schnieds to improve his passing under pressure.
Unfortunately, Schniederlin has offered very little throughout the past 15 months. Put simply, he doesn't deserve a starting place
Good to see you back, Steve.
370 Posted 07/08/2018 at 05:50:18
Difficult to assess Bernard, I've seen him play a few times, but he was playing for a guy who expected his players to carry out his instructions to the letter. I would like to see him play with a little more freedom. Think Steven Pienaar as opposed to Steven Gerrard, He is intelligent, protects the ball well and draws fouls in dangerous areas.
Free, experienced and wanted by other top clubs. Whats not to like ?
371 Posted 07/08/2018 at 06:43:36
372 Posted 07/08/2018 at 06:52:18
One thing that surprised me is that no one mentioned the fact that James Marshalls' granddad once was saved from drowning by our new signing!
373 Posted 07/08/2018 at 06:55:44
374 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:14:31
375 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:22:33
In this day and age when every player is like a mini business, coming to a club with a modern-day record like Everton from a club where he has been used to winning cups and leagues... and having the choice of Champions League, doesn't make any sense...Maybe he has heard Usmanov is going to be bankrolling Everton.
377 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:30:50
Mina sounds like he wants a Champions League club but if Lyons can't pay him what we are offering he'll end up with us after declaring himself a lifelong Blue.
378 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:35:07
379 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:35:17
380 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:37:42
381 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:41:11
382 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:47:06
383 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:49:38
Maybe about to join his good friend Mr Moshiri on the most exciting project in world football.
Very exciting times if it comes together, the stars are aligning for Everton Football Club.
384 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:51:39
385 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:51:56
386 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:52:14
This could turn out to be a very interesting day. Mr Usmanov will be a very welcome addition to our club!
387 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:53:18
A very interesting close to the window
388 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:53:47
My mate has supported City for years and when they became mega- rich it was so bizarre as he went through a period of resistance and wanted his old club back.
I think if it happened TW would become like that Python sketch.
"Think you had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife before going to Goodison."
389 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:54:02
390 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:54:21
391 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:59:10
392 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:08:35
393 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:17:28
"На моей голове"
Russian for "on me 'ed"
394 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:18:52
395 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:23:05
396 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:25:07
But perhaps we are getting ahead of ourselves. Wait and see...
397 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:25:19
Cue Coca-Cola xmas trucks, lit up in blue leds.
What can possibly go wrong?🤔🤔🤔🤔
398 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:26:40
399 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:30:41
400 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:31:21
401 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:41:31
402 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:44:02
Even if we don't sign him, he's given us more excitement on this thread alone than most of our squad has over the last year.
403 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:45:14
Another for those over a certain age.
404 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:47:13
405 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:49:17
406 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:53:29
But you just never know. Even when a player is in the building he may end up walking away.
407 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:55:46
408 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:04:58
409 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:05:07
410 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:08:35
I would think this has been going on behind the scenes for some time, hopefully everything is in place for him to step in today and spend 300 million in the next 2 days...
We can dream can't we?
411 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:12:51
412 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:15:28
413 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:16:05
414 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:23:39
415 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:24:17
I know I'm massively simplifying things saying that but a boy can dream can't he? We could build a gigantic mega-stadium for 100,000 people with his very own steel.
416 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:26:31
417 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:27:07
Knowing our luck he will buy the redshite.
418 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:27:09
Best steaks I can remember !
419 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:28:39
They, the Beeb, are giving him and his shitty team more coverage than 80% of the prem teams.
420 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:28:57
421 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:34:22
George Shaw scored the goal of the season for us a couple of years ago
422 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:36:13
Fits TW to a tee. Ha-ha!
423 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:40:42
424 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:43:20
Just need a defence now!
425 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:44:05
426 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:47:17
"could this get any better for Evertonians?"
Have you watched any of our pre-season games?
427 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:50:13
Bernard isn't unfashionable, its only given to living legends.
Watch your step TW ;)
428 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:52:10
429 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:52:36
430 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:55:05
Football is a pretty straight forward game. The guy who puts the ball in the net is by far the most important position on the pitch.
Lukaku situation proved that.
431 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:56:03
Toff! Ill still think of you as “Posh Bernard” with a stress on the first syllable!
432 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:59:07
433 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:59:31
It would be worth it just to see the look on the red shite fans' faces when they come to terms with the fact that they have become the small club in the city.
434 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:03:03
435 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:05:21
Used to be another guy who served there, Robert. As camp as Tawd Vale or a scout jamboree.
436 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:12:41
The signing of the Bernard may have helped Mina make his mind up. He can see we are a team that is going places now and he can be an integral part of that.
It would be an amazing 48hrs for the club.
And thats without the game changing possibility of Alisher Usmanov joining Farhad and getting involved with the project.
Keep your hats on though, none of the above is real yet!
437 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:16:11
438 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:18:54
And, as a minority owner, have to follow the lead of a guy he ordered around for 20 years?
I say we stick with the guy we got.
439 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:23:17
440 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:23:45
Naming rights etc are simple ways of siphoning massive amounts of money into the club.
441 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:24:04
442 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:26:37
443 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:29:40
We've got rid of Mirallas, Williams, Robles, Rooney, Klaasen etc and maybe even Bolasie will go
We've got in Digne, Richarlison and are hopefully getting in Bernard a couple of CBs and a striker (Welbeck anyone?)
A huge well done to Brands and Silva so far - its looking like they're gonna achieve a bigger clear out than we hoped and get in a few gems and transform our playing style
444 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:32:49
Are you sure we are not signing a Yorkshire Barrel maker ?
“Ay-up young Bernard, is that barrel finished for the Arkwright order”
445 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:32:59
I even have hopes to break into top 6 if we get that no-nonsense guy at the back, considering the situations at the 4 of the big 6 clubs. Only City and Liverpool are at different level. Man Utd are struggling and Mourinho is moaning about it. Chelsea are depending on Morata to get them goals with future of Willian, Hazard and Courtois out of their control. Spurs are playing in new stadium and Arsenal have Europa to deal with it. I believe 2 of these teams will fall apart.
446 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:35:55
I also dont think Usmanov will take over at Everton. I just cant see him being second in command to Moshiri.
447 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:40:54
448 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:43:43
Usmanov wouldnt come in as Moshiris second, hed take control. Remember, the paradise papers purport to show Usmanov gave Moshiri the money to buy arsenal and then he sold those shares and bought Everton. Panorama was implying that Moshiri is spending Usmanovs money. So if its all true, Usmanov can come out of the shadows and take full control of Everton.
449 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
450 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Why would anyone want to invest £Ms and not have a controlling interest?
451 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Why would anyone want to invest £Ms and not have a controlling interest?
452 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Why would anyone want to invest £Ms and not have a controlling interest?
453 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Why would anyone want to invest £Ms and not have a controlling interest?
454 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:48:10
455 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:48:16
456 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:48:52
457 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:53:27
I have had this problem, its quite technical, I think there maybe a rice crispie trapped under your return button.
458 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:53:33
Cue the hope that he'll be backing his mate at Everton with the funds.
459 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:56:33
460 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:59:17
461 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:59:20
It's the second time it's happened on this thread!
The odd thing is the apology just posts the once.
(This post is from my phone).
462 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:11:38
463 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:12:08
464 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:18:23
Not much of an apology, then, Bill!
Dave #447 - I'm watching you, lad!
465 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:44:56
466 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:45:37
Very invigorating and lets just hope it all comes off, though Usmanov would just be the icing on a very exciting transfer window.
Rock on M and M!
467 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:55:01
By the way, there's no new ground
468 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:00:30
If you think Usmanov isn't already involved at Everton, I would suggest that was wide of the mark, even if oddly under the radar. It's a bit of an open secret if you like.
I'm looking forward to the day we have USM emblazoned across the front of our Champions League winning jerseys.
469 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:00:47
470 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:02:12
471 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:03:55
472 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:05:40
473 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:14:35
474 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:18:55
475 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:21:10
Anyway, I knew that we could still sell players to overseas clubs up until 31st August but I didn't know we can still sign players from any club on loan right up until the end of August. So, this week is only the window for permanent incomimgs and there is nothing stopping us from bringing players in on loan with a future option to buy agreed.
476 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:24:01
477 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:28:21
478 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:28:36
479 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:37:53
480 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:38:39
Apparently they've outbid us for Bernard but he's on a free transfer so how does that work?
481 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:44:59
3rd Aug: West Ham beat Chelsea to signing of Bernard.
6th Aug: Everton clinch deal to sign free agent, Bernard.
Welcome to modern day journalism and the transfer market.
482 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:55:46
483 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:00:36
484 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:02:09
This is such an important window for us. A few good signings and top six – no more mid-table.
485 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:04:07
486 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:09:15
Your info used to be spot on, but you seem to be grasping like us mortals nowadays. Mind you, better to announce surprises than give the game away too early and be gazumped.
487 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:12:07
488 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:23:38
If he goes to Chelsea in the end I'll be so disappointed.
Mina off to somewhere today too, hopefully us?
And Usmanov might dump his millions into Everton?
That's your Everton Daily. Nothing concrete, lot of speculation.
Can we please hurry this along and start the season! All this soap-opera bullshit is killing me.
489 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:31:04
490 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:35:04
491 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:37:25
It's the fear of losing what looks like one hell of a playmaker - something we've needed since Arteta left - that creates the impatience.
For me it's not Everton dragging their feet, it's the desire to see the deal done and dusted before we lose him to some other predator.
492 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:40:44
493 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:43:54
494 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:45:57
495 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:47:09
496 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:49:43
You've raised some very important points there that people need to take into consideration.
If he does pass his medical short of his 90th birthday, Shneids is still going to be the slowest player in the squad by a stretch.
497 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:51:55
498 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:52:39
499 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:57:00
500 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:02:03
Just like the Richarlson signing didn't happen?
501 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:02:43
502 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:04:34
503 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:05:53
Best thread ever on TW.
504 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:06:50
So there too
505 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:07:12
506 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:11:31
The Media keep us all guessing with their mostly fake news which is in keeping with the Trump era.
However, Bernard seems like a go subject to a good medical and perhaps a central defender may also be a day away.
The problem with many clubs doing multiple signings during the window is having them integrated and some take longer than others.
Wolves have a slew of new (mostly Portuguese) imports and just perhaps they may not all be on the same page for the Everton game.
Some players may start out on the bench and be introduced slowly over the first few games.
507 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:24:34
508 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:29:25
509 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:32:34
Peter Ustinov was one of my favourites, very funny - but a crap footballer.
510 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:35:52
511 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:36:46
We're deffo going to win the lot this season
512 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:37:14
But his shirt fits him better now.
513 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:37:31
514 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:38:20
515 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:01:57
516 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:03:16
517 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:06:10
518 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:08:01
519 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:11:13
He also does a lot of work on CBeebies, along with his dog Salty. He tells lots of tall stories, he would be great for TW!
520 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:12:29
You couldn't make it up.
521 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:12:38
522 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:14:38
Well as Madam Cholet would say "Sacrebleu" which loosely translated into Wombleese is, "fuck me sideways".
Now, how's Peter Ustinov involved again?
523 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:14:42
524 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:16:03
525 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:16:10
Your having a laugh, surely? Well, his mother thinks so - she's reported as saying "signed for Brighton, my Arce".
526 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:19:17
527 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:20:22
528 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:23:59
He says to tell you that Ustinov was a brilliant athlete, and have you never seen Blackbeard's ghost? 😬😬😬
529 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:34:59
530 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:39:51
531 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:21:54
532 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:30:29
I asked him if he's signed yet and he said "efefefeffffefff Mr Kenwright la!"
533 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:31:29
534 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:34:59
535 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:52:16
536 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:54:00
537 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:55:04
538 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:03:23
"Bernard remains Everton-bound, with the Brazil international expected to sign on a free transfer having let his contract expire at Shakhtar Donetsk last season, but his medical is not expected until Wednesday now. It had been initially pencilled in for today after Everton moved ahead of West Ham United, Chelsea, Milan and others in the race for the winger. Bernard will also need a work permit to complete his move to the Premier League.
Central defence remains the priority for Marco Silva and director of football Marcel Brands – as it appears to be for a host of Premier League clubs – but the long-standing pursuit of Yerry Mina, Jamaal Lascelles and others remains “on-going” with only two days remaining of the window."
539 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:04:17
540 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:11:31
541 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:12:43
I've never seen him play like... and it seems today the more tatts you have, the poorer the player!
542 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:18:55
543 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:23:26
"Bernard's medical at Everton has been pushed back to Wednesday, and he still requires a work permit."
Hopefully there will be no hick-ups. I wonder how his fitness is. Hopefully he hasn't spent the last month doing bbq's and drinking poor quality beer.
Anyone any idea on where he has been training?
I guess he'll be a substitute for the first month or two while he adapts and regains fitness.
544 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:27:53
Newsnow, (I know), are reporting that Medical is underway, and an announcement will be made shortly, we are all like expectant fathers in the room adjoining the Maternity Suite.
545 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:31:13
Is he hitchhiking over for the Ukraine?
Something doesn't seem right about this one. Plus Mina is clearly not coming. So 2 days left to deadline and were back to Morgan, Keane and jags in the starting 11.
Who'd want to be an Everton fan?
546 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:41:09
547 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:41:21
I remember when the shite signed Fabinho. It was totally out of the blue, so maybe this could be done and duster today after all?
548 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:41:38
This is not the best thread ever on TW.
Kev Johnson playing up top for Everton will, forever, be the greatest, most hilarious thread on TW.
549 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:47:06
550 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:52:05
551 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:00:58
552 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:02:22
A little like our own Barkley, head has been turned and although talent remains, determination and sheer will to win has taken a back seat.
For me Richarlison is the best piece of business since Cahill. He's still driven and focused to succeed.
553 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:08:18
554 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:28:37
Where exactly did this rumour come from its starting to stink. And Mina wtf is happening on that front.
555 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:30:32
2 days and counting? It hasnt even been 24 hours!!!
556 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:33:27
557 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:39:09
558 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:46:38
One thing is for sure, Silva and Brands are working to get us the best players possible and with a clear idea as to what they want.
Things are looking up
559 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:47:14
Over 550 comments and RSI from all the Googling he better bloody sign.
560 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:48:06
I remember that Kev Johnson thread well. Was a blinder.
561 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:53:20
562 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:03:54
563 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:15:41
Don't worry about it. My sources tell me ex-Suede lead guitarist Bernard Butler has been lined up in case we strike out on Sumner.
Silva has stated that all signings must be So Young in order to lower the average age of the squad whilst simultaneously getting rid of the Trash signed by Walsh & Koeman.
564 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:28:35
565 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:30:39
566 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:30:58
567 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:31:31
568 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:47:44
569 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:47:44
570 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:48:09
I get the impression Bernards a done deal and Man Utd will sign Alderweireld, so looks like Mina will come to us. The Brazilian signings and his mate Digne have tipped the balance hopefully.
571 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:56:09
572 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:05:58
McNulty is a decent journalist though. I think he knows his stuff. Hes written some favorable stuff about us. But hes not as critical of the RS as others might be. Theres clearly a lot written about the RS these days and its all with rose tinted specs.
573 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:08:35
574 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:11:35
575 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:21:22
576 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:32:50
577 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:40:11
Gotta say this is a pretty spectacular thread, however -- nearly 600 posts based on a player who hasn't even signed yet. If you printed this out it would be taller than Bernard.
578 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:41:36
579 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:44:04
580 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:44:42
581 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:52:40
'Unattached players are free to join a new club outside the transfer window.
But Premier League clubs must name a 25-man squad at the end of every window.
That means that if a player signs, they will only be able to play in the Premier League if a club has not named a full squad or if they are under-21'.
582 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:55:27
For the record, Mcnulty lives in Oxford now. Currently, I don't think it matter's an awful lot where journos live now, as long as they have access to the web.
Not sure how old you are, but do you remember McNulty falling out spectacularly with Joe Royle in the '90s over his reporting of Everton affairs?
Think he was banned from Bellefield for a while, until tempers cooled. It must be hard for anyone to have a row with Big Joe as he's such an amenable guy.
Don't think there talking yet. I've Tweeted a few times to McNulty asking him if they are on 'speaking terms', but he just ignores me.
Think the local journos now based on Merseyside are just hunting for 'click bait' all the time, or the likes of the LFC correspondent James Pierce who hangs onto Klopp's every word, and NEVER poses a question that may upset or annoy him
583 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:59:02
584 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:59:03
Report says both Barca and Mina have agreed terms with us, but Lyon's president wants in, and "He will not refrain from such a deal based on ethics."
585 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:04:11
Give it a rest already, mate.
586 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:04:23
587 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:08:34
Better yet, have a toddy and hit the sack. By tomorrow morning your time, we should know more.
588 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:10:16
589 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:13:40
Hope all is peaceful with you and yours.
590 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:16:26
591 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:17:44
Thanks for what you did, means a lot.
592 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:18:19
593 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:20:55
I'll be over there this season for the derby. Hope to drink a toast with you to our dads. And their sons.
594 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:24:18
595 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:28:21
596 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:28:42
597 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:30:14
For older readers who could forget this 'slight' chappie signed to fill the vacant spece left by Alan Ball some 18 months earlier. A man whose greatest talent was to simply fall on top of opponents and they'd be seen no more, such was his tonnage. A man who – when under pressure, could simply deploy his huge arse to become that 12th man when under the cosh when he reverted to full-back.
In the days when men were men, our Mike could be found on Friday nights at Ellesmere Port dog track riding scrambler bikes (image that now!!). For younger readers (and all I say to be convinced of his pedigree) go watch the Everton v Leeds 3-2 game - Sept 74 to witness this bull of a man plod around the pitch hardly breaking into second gear!
Apologies if he isn't in that game but it's a good excuse to witness Mike Lyons header competing with Norman Hinter's boot to score in the Park End and break Leeds's great run. (Oh for him to be wheeled out on Saturday at the back... could do a lot worse!!)
598 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:34:09
599 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:39:00
600 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:44:16
However, Clatterbridge, the Royal, and Southport Hospitals were terrible. My father starved to death. The hospital didn't do anything to help him. He had cachexia and he should have had a PEG feed but they don't do that here. My father was incapable of eating, his brain wouldn't let him.
He was also the fittest 67 year old in the world. If not the fittest he was close to it. He'd murder most 20-year-olds in a 10-mile run. He was running every day up til Christmas, when his symptoms first really came to the fore. As recently as four weeks ago, he last played golf. He was going to the gym everyday until about 6/7 weeks ago. He was still riding his bike more recently than that, doing a five-mile circuit. The guy was a picture of fitness that stretched back a life time and included a stint as a semi-pro footballer (only St Helens town, but they were in the fifth tier in the 70s). He played football until he was into his 40s and his knee went playing in a dads and lads match with myself (straining to catch a wayward shot to stop the keeper running miles to retrieve the ball).
Anyway, sorry about the rant, but I'm so angry right now. I feel so let down by something I was once so proud of. Things are happening at Everton and I can't chat to my dad about it and that really drives the point that he's gone forever home.
601 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:49:57
602 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:52:02
603 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:53:43
604 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:02:10
Steve Ferns, just so you know, I've loved reading about Silva; you have convinced me he is the right man for the job and him and Brands will be great. I love talking all things Everton so can't imagine losing someone you do that all the time. RIP, Mr Ferns.
I don't get to Goodison much as I'm from Taunton... any ToffeeWebbers from down this way. Take care, Steve.
605 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:03:28
606 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:03:35
607 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:10:49
608 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:14:10
609 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:18:55
My condolences to you too Graham. You should also contact the club and ask them to mark your fathers passing. Theyre happy to do so and so they should be after a lifetime of devotion and recruiting offspring to the cause.
610 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:36:42
611 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:37:17
As to thoughts and comments re. the NHS. I'll summarize mine as saying the NHS in not changing, it's aggressively being changed. It's not insurmountable lack of funding, there aren't "Too many" of us, we aren't "Demanding" too much, and it doesn't need to be "Buckling under the strain" (or any other of the psycho-babble PR crap they incessantly push). An agenda is afoot.
612 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:39:10
Manny: “Pet Surprise”? Whats that?
Bernard: Oh you know the thing, they take the dog out for a walk, it thinks its a normal walk, but when they come back, the kennel has a patio and french doors.
Manny: Yeah, yeah, and they take the blindfold off…
Bernard: Yeah and hes like “Oh my god”, you know.
613 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:40:07
Your Dad sounds like he was a titan of a man. Someone to be truly proud of as a parent.
614 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:41:02
I know we dont know each other, but I read your posts regularly, and on here you kind of feel like you get to know people.
Just like to also offer my condolences along with many others on here. It shows ToffeeWeb is an online community which is far more special than social networking.
Thoughts are with you
615 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:45:46
616 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:46:57
617 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:46:57
618 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:54:21
Anyway, this bluenose sends best wishes to you and your family.
619 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:57:56
Funerals are never easy or nice but I hope your dad gets the send off he deserves and the funeral can be a celebration of his life (a term Ive always found to be strange)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on him in such an articulate manner, one I think we can all relate to. Please dont ever apologise again for such a “rant” as you call it because its nothing of the sort.
620 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:04:07
Take comfort from the memories that will never die and the feeling sometimes that he is watching over you.
My thoughts are with you.
621 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:05:21
622 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:06:15
623 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:16:02
624 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:19:47
Jim - that "Celebration" term can seem misaligned but sometimes it's spot on. After an incredibly emotional service, the wake at a nearby country pub evolved into a warm and uplifting event in fabulous June weather. Expected guests and people not seen for years had made the effort. Some of the memories and conversation were incredible.
It's an oft said irony that it can take funerals to bring people together, but it was a fitting end to things best summed up by my sister, who said "Mum would have loved this gathering".
Steve - very best of luck with it all. Laugh, cry, talk, be silent, however it happens, it's all good.
625 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:21:59
626 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:22:58
627 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:23:54
628 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:26:47
629 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:28:33
Like so many ''big'' Everton signings over the years they start well and then usually get injured and never seem to regain what they had before.
I watched Ross Barklay with Chelski and I see a player who just doesn't exude the confidence that he had a few years back. Seems just to get the ball and pass it a couple of yards and that's it.
Everton have had many young starlets who burst on the scene and then for some reason fizzled out quickly ( Jeffers, Cadamartari, Vaughan etc.)
They have a bunch now and I wonder if they will go the same way as big money signings seem to be in vogue and many young lads get ignored unless they are really special like Rooney.
630 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:39:37
631 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:49:37
632 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:51:08
633 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:05:51
Amongst the excitement of this thread a message to the two guys regarding their losses. I was born in Manchester in '76 and was adopted by two wonderful folks as a baby. My adopted dad was an Upper Bullens stalwart for over 25 years and he first took me the game when I was around 7. I call it my 'fever pitch' moment as that bit in the movie when the kid walks up the steps and see the pitch for the first time..
I lost my dad February 2nd last year to late-stage Parkinson's and for last 5 or 6 years after years of season tickets have been going alone and always in the main stand so I could see his (and my) old seat on the front row of the Upper Bullens. I have not been back since he died and it will be hard.
I wish he had seen Rooney come back. I know it didn't work out and rightly some people were nonplussed but he always watched him at Man Utd as he said, 'I just love to watch him play'. It took me longer to get over the anger of him going but Dad was a better man than me I guess.
Anyway, lads, from one who was made a Blue (thank you dad), I think progress is difficult to take when we wish loved ones were still here to see new stadiums and maybe a trophy. My thoughts are with you and all blues. Let's not in-fight, eh?
From I, guess, a wool!
634 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:06:45
636 Posted 08/08/2018 at 01:09:13
637 Posted 08/08/2018 at 01:21:10
638 Posted 08/08/2018 at 01:58:19
"Things are happening at Everton and I can't chat to my dad about it..."
Trust me Steve, those dialogues with your dad will continue.
Heartfelt thoughts to both your mother and yourself.
639 Posted 08/08/2018 at 02:20:38
In the days and weeks that followed his death it was the contact from people who knew my father - friends, work colleagues, acquaintances, whoever - that brought real comfort, and on occasion made me learn something new about him that I never had the chance to discover when he was alive.
Obviously I do not know you or your father, but your description of him makes me believe that he was a very good father to you - and that in itself is a wonderful thing. I wish you and the rest of your family the absolute best - and the same goes for everyone else on here who has lost someone recently; sadly, reading this thread and others, there are a large amount of people in that number. Wonderful compassion on here from everyone.
640 Posted 08/08/2018 at 08:09:02
Having lost my mum after a pretty horrendous few months (topping off a rough few years with her health), it's only now we're getting past he practical stuff. If you haven't already, I'd really recommend some counselling... I appreciate it's not very blokey to suggest, and it doesn't have to be months or even weeks and weeks - but it sounds like you've had a shit time of it. All I can say is that I feel it helped me.
641 Posted 08/08/2018 at 08:38:18
As I said previously, I too lost my Dad to cancer almost 40 years ago. The pain will diminish, but it will take time. Hopefully, a major improvement in Everton's fortunes will help to ease it.
It isn't McNullty ( who is chief football writer for the BBC).
Ray was referring to the chief football writer for the Guardian who is Barney Ronay.
642 Posted 08/08/2018 at 09:22:17
Sorry for your loss Steve and share your anger at how he was let down by the NHS.
Can I suggest you contact PALS?
They are independent of the system and will investigate your complaints thoroughly. I used it when the Royal managed to lose my wife for 4 days!
It wont ease the pain but it might call to account those who failed in their duty of care.
643 Posted 08/08/2018 at 09:41:05
644 Posted 08/08/2018 at 09:43:10
645 Posted 08/08/2018 at 09:51:49
646 Posted 08/08/2018 at 10:02:35
647 Posted 08/08/2018 at 10:27:26
Mike #642 I will certainly look into PALs. I will be contacting my MP, my Dad's MP, and the new Health Secretary to try to get the NHS to spend more than 1% of their cancer research budget on the most devastating (and brutal) killer of all the cancers. I also want to the NHS to make a change so they PEG feed (IV) patients rather than let them feed themselves. My Dad had cachexia (similar to anorexia) and could not be fed orally. He effectively starved to death, and this must change. It does not happen in America where nutrition is a vital part of fighting cancer.
#638 I hope so. I know when I'm in the gym (my dad's wish is for me to get fit) I talk to him all the way through it. I will miss our conversations about Everton, and the way he having played at a high level could explain the game to me. A wayward 60 yard pass to no one by Sheedy was not his fault, it was the fault of the winger who should had made the run and then looked, knowing Sheedy's quality and he should not have looked and then casually jogged after it. He had a great eye for things and sat next to him in the ground was always an education.
John Charles great to hear from you and hope you contribute more in future.
Andrew Keatley, you're so right and we're amongst friends here. We should never suffer in silence and seeing as we communicate everyday (well some of us) about football, people should get stuff off their chest instead of bottling it up.
Thanks again to everyone.
648 Posted 08/08/2018 at 10:59:07
Rumours now that Mr Kenwright to step down . Are we about to introduce a new investor and board member?
649 Posted 08/08/2018 at 11:07:42
I believe you're implying Usmanov. I can't remember where I read it, but I read something last night that said Usmanov is going to buy an Italian side. Now that doesn't make sense to me. Sure, a top Italian side like Juve makes a lot of money. He can't buy them as their effectively a family owned club now, and the family have assets worth more than Usmanov. Maybe he can resurrect AC Milan, but the Italian TV deal is worth nothing, so the returns on his investment will be less than he'd get for owning Everton, especially if he can get us in the Champions League.
Who else can he invest in? Germany is a non-starter due to the fan ownership rules. Spain you can't get hold of the big two, the others will never bring the return on investment. France is a one club league and you can't usurp PSG financially.
Hopefully, Usmanov can consider it all carefully, and then decide that we are the best chance he has of building a club that he can then sell for a massive profit in 5-10 years time after we've won the Champions League!
650 Posted 08/08/2018 at 11:14:32
He may well have already made his mind up to join Mr Moshiri and embrace the project. It is one of the most exciting things to do in World football at the moment . At Usmanovs age he can see an inspired project through from start to finish and see his investment bear fruit. What more could a billionaire want!
Not that I am biased in any way.
651 Posted 08/08/2018 at 11:28:29
652 Posted 08/08/2018 at 12:36:05
Is Usamanov any good at CB?
653 Posted 08/08/2018 at 12:39:30
We occasionally use peg feeding but it is not always appropriate, it may help if you knew the reason why it was not used in your Dad's case and PALS will help you get those answers.
654 Posted 08/08/2018 at 12:40:50
Remember the Digne deal taking what felt like ages - same scenario here, deals in place, fees and personal terms all agreed, just got to sort out medicals and work permit (for Bernard) and film/edit the intro videos for them.
Reports in Spain say Mina is a done deal and will be announced today.
655 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:02:24
656 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:07:17
657 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:15:39
Marcel knows what he is doing, Im sure.
658 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:22:41
659 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:35:57
660 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:48:08
Mina - has anyone seen or heard any real evidence of his arrival? Medical?
Are either at Finch Farm?
661 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:51:56
The only activity at the time going into the premises, was a Hanson Ready Mix Cement/Concrete wagon, which I must admit has me puzzled.
Has anyone any idea?
662 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:53:37
663 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:55:21
664 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:21:30
Given the time difference, about 5 or 6 hours, and the time it takes to fly here (probably to Manchester), around 10 hours, I reckon he caught a flight around 4am our time, about 10pm - 11pm Brazilian time, meaning he should be in Manchester about now!!!
Hopefully be on Merseyside by about 4pm. So there you go, sorted!!👍👍👍
665 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:27:29
Rob, he'll go direct to LJL as he won't be on easyjet! We'll have sent Moshiri's private jet that we use for all the big players.
666 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:30:05
667 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:30:38
668 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:32:18
669 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:40:18
I can see Sheikh Yabooty handing over telephone numbers of cash to buy Everton when they are Champions League Winners.
670 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:45:32
671 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:51:22
Anyway, some highlights:
- He's a fan of Bernard
- He used to play with Mina and is mates with him
- Everton are a big club and can achieve big things
- Everton should aim for higher than last season
Charlie, you're my boy!
672 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:52:09
673 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:52:55
Aidan, Alan has his picture (selfie) with him, and a caption "Welcome to Everton Beranrd" and no it's none of the Bernard's listed above, particularly the lifeguard from the council who saved James' granddad before becoming a movie star.
So it looks like this is happening!
674 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:54:13
675 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:57:47
676 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:59:30
677 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:59:31
678 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:00:11
679 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:02:00
680 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:05:51
681 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:06:24
That ain't Bernard Cribbins, that's Norman Wisdom we've signed!
682 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:11:30
683 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:12:18
sympathy,pain and sadness. But it has also
brought us a shared joy and happiness through us
thinking about someone we've lost.
It reminds us how mortal we all are.
This thread, through you father feels different to
me. It's almost tangible from all the posts and the
readers who are sharing it . I somehow, I know it
sounds silly feel a silent Blue unity.
After 35 years I still talk to my dad. When I say
"What d'you think or what would you do ?"
There's no reply-------but there is because I know
what he would say.
#633-- Wool ??? Seems like silk to me.
684 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:13:42
685 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:15:27
I hope Myers is keeping those Chelsea guys chasing him through the airport away!
686 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:19:43
687 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:23:38
FFS, I hope not as that will be passed the TDD.
688 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:25:43
689 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:26:47
690 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:43:42
691 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:44:32
My Grandad really has risen from the grave due to us signing Bernard.
Isn't the Internet wonderful?
692 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:45:16
693 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:46:42
694 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:47:14
695 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:49:34
Good news about the arrival of Bernard!!!
696 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:49:42
697 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:56:59
698 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:57:00
699 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:05:08
700 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:05:39
701 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:09:09
Now that would make Bramley Moore a bit different. Just the place for Speedo Steve and during January and February we can have Ice Skating. And we could build one of those infinity pools so it looks like it is the Mersey flowing in and out.
And can somebody post a new picture of Bernard. Let's get his arms down and with a pen in hand and a contract underneath them. I am sure that 48 hours with his hands above his head there will be no blood in his hands to hold a pen and sign the contract.
702 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:13:30
703 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:14:48
704 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:15:28
I live about 30 minutes from the Jaguars stadium.
As circus-like as that pool may be, it's exceedingly popular.
705 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:15:49
706 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:17:13
707 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:18:04
Yes, he's going in to fill up from Schneids' boots.
708 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:19:57
Need some tips of anything to see in Jacksonville. Is there anything?
And at $150-200 per person, no wonder it is popular. Mind you, until this season there was more enjoyment in the pool that watching the game.
709 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:20:16
710 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:21:22
711 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:23:43
712 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:24:15
Anyway, fuck central defence, the opposition are going to have get double figures just to draw with us.
713 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:25:00
"Roger Moore is at Chiswick Roundabout as we speak".
714 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:29:11
On top of that, where is he going to play as I have understood Richarlison and Walcott will occupy the wings, with Sigurdsson in the middle. And I guess this also spells the end for Lookman who is not going to be getting any game time with the other 3 wingers well in front of him.
I think we are screaming out for a player that can replace Schiederlin in the centre and link up the defence with attack, so I'm scratching my head at this signing as it seems to be a huge amount of wages on someone we don't really need?
Somebody help me out here.
715 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:31:10
716 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:31:11
717 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:31:12
I read that previous forum just now and realise your dad passed 4 Aug at 11am. So glad he had a peaceful end. My prayers and stuff go to your and your family. Don't mean to remind you of this loss, just wanted to acknowledge the situation.
718 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:32:15
So my old Grandad was out fly fishing one day...
719 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:32:56
720 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:33:02
I agree we need to replace Morgan but surely youd agree we havent had a genuine play maker since arteta?
721 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:35:41
Theres some speed there, for once they wont know where we are coming from. Ha Ha Ha!
722 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:36:44
Steve you have had great support in the last week from lots of Bluenoses on ToffeeWeb, I hope everything goes well on Friday for you and all the family, I'll be thinking of you and saying a prayer in memory of your dad on the day. God bless.
723 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:41:57
Just got in when I posted that and I see it's already old news!! lol
724 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:46:20
725 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:46:37
Im hoping he plays central or thats were Silva has him marked in for. Do we really need two defensive midfielders playing at Goodison? Hopefully he plays well enough to be a permanent starter and he picks himself with his performances.
726 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:49:23
727 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:49:53
I just hope that if we sign two central defenders they are both fully fit and they have had a full pre-season.
Otherwise we will be struggling.
If we get our targets Silva will have us flying high.
728 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:52:51
729 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:53:40
Not seen much of him, but I assume the type we want/need?
730 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:56:08
731 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:57:22
From what I have read his natural and most effective position seems to be attacking on the left side, where we have just spent 40 million on Richarlison. It feels to me like the Klaassen/Sigurdsson thing all over again.
732 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:00:20
733 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:01:22
Always remember the life they lived, and gave, and not the end.
734 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:01:26
Sorry to hear mate. Condolences fella
735 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:03:01
Don't suppose all of them will start against Everton but Traore can be a big danger if he is in the mood.
Everton's new boys may not have an immediate impact on early results but if they can get the defence sorted out early it would be something to build on.
A lot depends on attitude which was very poor last season so they need to come out positively and not sit back waiting for things to happen.
Will be very interesting to see what effect Silva can have on them if any at all especially after the lousy pre-season.
736 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:05:02
737 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:06:43
738 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:11:17
I think three more players will follow, two defenders and a central midfielder, one bought perhaps two on loan.
An exciting Thursday beckons I feel.
739 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:11:44
If wolves start about 6 or 7 of their new signings on Saturday, it may just benefit us.
740 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:11:48
Chat with CEO and them time to celebrate.
741 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:14:01
In the meantime Teamtalk are claiming Mina will be announced 'within hours'
742 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:15:10
Firstly, size isn't everything. First touch, quick movement, accurate passing can go a long way. Iniesta seemed to have an ok career despite his midgetness. Also, we won't play against Pogba and co every week.
743 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:17:25
744 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:20:31
745 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:20:38
Speed maybe but these "premadonas" have more chance of injury in shower in Head and Shoulders ad'.
746 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:31:39
747 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:32:06
Plus Richarlison isn't a traditional winger, he will end up as a striker. So happy days, enjoy it for once!
We are chasing Andre Gomes for the Schneiderlin role.
748 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:41:44
749 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:47:31
750 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:51:18
751 Posted 08/08/2018 at 18:12:13
That week two game this year we have the Higgins Clan traveling down from Boston from my Aunt's side of the family. Like 15 to 20 of them. There will be an Irish-Bostonian contingent of very drunk people destroying Jacksonville.
We've already notified the local authorities.
When you come to Jax, stay near the beach. I'd suggest my little hamlet of Ponte Vedra Beach. Stay at the Sawgrass Marriott. They have a beach club and a shuttle to get you there. Nice place - actually ate in their bar last night with a son. Save your pennies
If that's a bit too steep price-wise, there's some excellent places to stay on the beach in Jacksonville Beach. A lot of restaurants and bars there too.
In short, if you're coming to Jax, stay near the beach. It's what's wonderful about this area. And bring golf clubs if you golf - it's golf heaven here. The TPC Stadium course is a once in a lifetime thing. Teeing it up on the 17th and trying to hit the 130 yard shot to the island green is surreal.
If and when you get to Jax, hit me up on TW. I'll have you over for a beer or a glass of wine. And I sincerely mean that, not the English, "come over for dinner" conundrum I've never understood! Hit me up and I'll feed ya a couple of drinks at the homestead for an hour or two.
Do not forget your swimming trunks mate! Pools abound, oceans beckon. As you've been here previously, you knew that already. ;0)
OH! AND! Lynch's Irish Pub in Jax Beach - footy 24/7 on the tubes. Great Pub. Highly suggest hitting that place! If you go, I'll join you there. I'd live there if it were possible. Great food, and an authentic Irish breakfast which is a rarity to find here in 'Merica.
752 Posted 08/08/2018 at 18:12:21
753 Posted 08/08/2018 at 18:13:13
My 'Everton mad' old fella died at 64 of cancer, and his NHS treatment was diabolical. Also MacMillan wouldn't come out because of the weather!!! (Which wasn't too bad...) Dad never complained once. I will look out for the photo in the Southampton programme. COYB.
754 Posted 08/08/2018 at 18:33:29
755 Posted 08/08/2018 at 19:24:58
756 Posted 08/08/2018 at 21:21:26
Also no surprise we're seeing Portugese speaking players all suddenly showing up at Everton - the Andre Gomes thing looks like a goer too.
757 Posted 09/08/2018 at 04:07:01
758 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:31:54
I cant help thinking too that maybe these signings should have all been done months ago and the new arrivals could have settled in...doesn't seem like a proper thought out plan to me.
759 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:37:27
Schneiderlin is a shoe in to start unless Gomes can sit deep.
760 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:28:53
I,m glad we've started at last to get rid of the unnecessary surplus and untalented, and also that we are trying to sign players (eventually) but there still residual whiffs that make me nervous for the new season...two of them being Schneiderlin (stinking attitude) and Jagielka (ability & poor leadership)
I wish I had that optimistic outlook that seems to prevail but the last few seasons have crushed it out of me
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