Everton on the verge of Bernard coup

Monday, 6 August, 2018 744comments  |  Jump to last
Brazilian midfielder Bernard looks set to join Everton on a free transfer, with reports suggesting everything has been agreed pending a medical and the granting of a work permit.

The talented 25-year-old has been the subject of plenty of speculation regarding his future after it emerged that he would not be renewing his contract at Shakhtar Donetsk where he spent five years following a £40m €25m move.

He reportedly had offers from Chelsea and big-spending West Ham this summer while AC Milan, Inter Milan, Atletico Madrid and Tottenham were also in the mix.

According to reports, Everton appear to have won the race to sign him, with the Daily Mail claiming that Marco Silva's personal intervention helped seal the agreement.

Sky Sports claim that he will travel to Merseyside within the next 24 hours to undergo a medical which will most likely be conducted on Wednesday morning.  


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Sam Hoare
1 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:42:00
Nice! Very tidy player. Wonder if he’ll play no 10 or on left with Richarlison going up front or behind Tosun.

Hope this one is true.

Amit Vithlani
2 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:43:14
Another left winger? Are we stocking up on no 11s whilst we have no CBs?

Davie Turner
3 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:43:16
That's out of the blue, still think best to not get too excited until it is official.
Conor Skelly
4 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:44:11
This is exactly what we need. A little Juninho type player to knit it all together. If true would be a brilliant signing, perhaps the best we've made in years.

Sam, he'll play in a midfield two beside a holding player.

Roy Steel
6 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:46:22
I've never heard of him, I don't know anything about him, but if he's good enough for Brands and Silva, that will do for me.
John Cook
7 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:47:23
Alan Myers reporting it's a done deal – "subject to work permit"... where have we heard this before!
Tony Page
8 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:49:06
Bernard is right-footed and though he plays mostly on the left is capable of filling in on the right wing as well. He featured in 29 games for Shakhtar last season, scoring ten times and picking up four assists, including three goals in the Champions League. The 25-year-old has 14 caps for Brazil, but hasn't featured since the 2014 World Cup.

The report states that Marco Silva's involvement was crucial in securing Bernard's signature, and the winger is excited to link up with his countryman Richarlison in the Blues' attack. The Blues beat Chelsea, Atletico Madrid and West Ham in their bid to land the forward.

This would be fantastic if we get him as Arsenal and the other lot were after him.

Graham Coldron
9 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:49:50
Davie's comment is spot on .Still time for Spurs or another one of the Sky six to try and muscle in on this gig.
Colin Glassar
10 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:49:53
Done deal on a free!!
Martin Berry
11 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:16
A class act, and I believe he played in midfield for Donetsk and was responsible for their quick counter attacking football.
Quite a coup if it comes off and still only 26, I like the fact all the signings we have made so far are young with improvement in them.
Brian Williams
12 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:26
On Sky Sports News now.
Derek Knox
13 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:29
I was just reading, that the Daily Mail had announced the news about Bernard, and thought I'll check TW, to see if there is any substance to it, mind you it still says we are getting Mina.

All other sources seem to be creating confusion over the Mina situation, citing Lyon's re-emerged bid. Confused.com, I am.

Hope this has mileage to it, as many top sides were seeking his signature, especially on a free.

Ray Said
14 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:38
if he plays up to his usual form then this will be a tremendous buy in my opinion, some one to create. If this is true then well played D of F.
Jeff Armstrong
15 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:50:45
Now get a centre back, Lascelles before Thursday, sell Bolasie and if this all comes off a decent window.
James Marshall
16 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:51:50
Who wouldn't want a tricksy little Brazilian in their team? We've been crying out for some creativity for years.
Jamie Crowley
17 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:52:01
WHaaaaaa?

Where the heck did this come from?!

Does he play out wide on the left (Richalrson's there?) or behind the striker (Sigurdsson might be nervous?)?

I wonder what the plan is for him in Silva's mind.

Either way he looks to be one hell of a good addition. This is a very pleasant surprise.

Jamie Crowley
18 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:55:10
Jeff Armstrong @15 -

if this comes off, we get a CB, and we dump Bolasie it'll be a window on par with the Martinez Barry-McCarthy-Lukaku summer.

There will still be needs, but for a first window for M&M if those three things happen it's an A+ grade in my book taking all the circumstances into account.

John Keating
19 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:55:12
If true, hopefully it will see the end of 2 defensive midfielders
Brent Stephens
20 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:55:44
Well, if true and it comes off, it just shows how much we on TW know what Everton are up to in the transfer market! "Typical Everton" etc...
Amit Vithlani
21 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:56:40
We'll see how he copes on a horrible Tuesday night at Sto-

Ah.

Dermot Byrne
22 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:57:12
Jaysus if true, could it be we have a management team that understand us?

A quick tricky midfielder? Oh please let it be true.

Clive Mitchell
23 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:58:30
Er...this time last season we needed a centre half. Things are different now - we need two centre halves. If this is true it's fantastic, but I don't want to see Keane and Jags lining up at Goodison a week on Saturday.
Jamie Crowley
24 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:59:01
Sparse and thinning hair, a beard and 'stache most 13 year old pubescent boys wouldn't be proud of, and tats up and down both arms like a NASCAR driving suit.

I freaking love it. Tricky little shit who clearly has personality.

I want this guy - like now. This dude is the creativity we've been needing since Arteta left.

Get him!

Tony Everan
25 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:59:16
A quality addition if it happens . Our style of football this season will certainly be more watchable! Defensive minded teams [Burnley etc], better watch out. We will be attacking them left right and centre.

I have more faith in Brands than anyone else who has been working for Everton over the last few years. I have more confidence than usual he can get Bernard and Mina signed .

We are a more professional outfit since Brands' arrival, an inspired appointment by Mr Moshiri.

Colin Glassar
26 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:59:22
I’m starting to feel a bit more optimistic now. A CB (Mina, Lascelles, Rojo or Lindelof- Not Smalling), or two, and another forward (Batshuayi loan) and I think we could have a very good new year.
John Keating
27 Posted 06/08/2018 at 19:59:34
Maybe he is the centre half ?????
Mark Tanton
29 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:00:04
Bernard and Mina/Lascelles/C Back would constitute a good window in my opinion.
James Stewart
30 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:01:47
Quality signing, I take it all back, Brands is working miracles if we are signing players of this class. He can player either wing or no.10

Made up.

Peter Roberts
31 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:03:36
Amit

Replace Stoke with Burnley.

If this comes off then Brands will have pulled off a blinder here. Snapping up one of the most coveted free transfers under the noses of several CL clubs?

James Marshall
32 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:04:06
I'm all for signing players with unfashionable names - now go out and get Keith, Nigel and Robin and we'll be all set.
Paul Tran
33 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:04:27
Alan Myers (very reliable) has tweeted that it's all done subject to medical.

One in the eye for all the people on here lambasting Brands and Silva for not signing all and sundry in five minutes.

This one has 'come from nowhere' because, in my opinion, we have someone who is doing his job well and in the right way.

Dermot Byrne
34 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:05:15
I've been telling you all about this guy for months but nobody listened.

Just wanted to be first!

Seriously, this could be the link between midfield and potentially good quick strike force we have been crying out for.

Agree re defence but maybe this professional management team can do that too?

Keith Harrison
36 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:06:13
Give the skunks Vlasic, Bolasie and £12 mill for Lascelles, and jobs a good un. Throw in Baines andvreduce it to £6 mill if we could get Tierney.

Interesting times.

Marcus Taylor
37 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:06:28
Interesting video of his performance (the good and bad) against Man City is the ECL last year. He started the game out wide on the left but finished it in central midfield. Looks decent on the ball and scored a good goal too. His playing style reminds me a bit of Steven Pienaar.

https://youtu.be/cE99rrjQ7Y4

James Morgan
38 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:07:15
Amit, with him coming from Ukraine it’ll be “how will he cope on a warm Sunday afternoon in Bournemouth?”
I don’t like getting too excited by YouTube but from what I see he looks damn good!
Keith Harrison
39 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:07:18
James, 32, oh sit down.
Clive Mitchell
40 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:08:26
John, 27 - at 5' 5" he probably is.
Jamie Crowley
41 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:09:26
James @ 30 -

Connor @ 4 points out he could play in a midfield 2 next to the holding mid?

I wonder if Silva drops him and looks to him to be the midfield man pulling the strings and creating the chances and breaks?

I dunno, that' why they get paid the big bucks and I watch.

John Keating
42 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:12:05
Clive
exactly !!!

Think of the panto horse.
Now Digne reckons he can play centre half so if we put Digne on Bernards shoulders and buy them a really long top we could have a tall commanding centre half with pace.

Thing is would that count as one or two players on the pitch ?

Derek Knox
43 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:13:27
John @19, don't tell me this the end of Schneiderlin, whoopee, oh wait a minute, they'll probably drop Gana!
James Marshall
44 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:14:46
Keith@39

Warm yer hands up mate, there's a pen & paper here ready for your John Hancock!

Amit Vithlani
45 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:17:23
James - very good. Continuing the theme, United got Fred, Allan plays for the evil tribe, who also field a plane jane called Allison. Jo is in retirement and Oscar is in China.

I yearn for a return of the days of yore when Brazilian players had such glorious names.

Biro Biro
Roberto Dinamite
Falcao
Socrates
Garrincha
Leonidas

Etc

Jamie Crowley
46 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:20:23
The article I just read online says this is all dependent upon a work permit.

Isn't that us fucked then? Have we ever, a single time, gotten a work permit for a player on a late-ish deal? That's like the death of this.

Swear to God if this falls through because of a fucking work permit I'm going to throw a chair through my fucking window.

John Keating
47 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:20:40
Knew it was too good to be true !

It's actually Mick Bernard.

That'll put the squads average age up.

Andrew Ellams
48 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:21:12
Wow. He's younger than I thought too.
James Marshall
49 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:21:14
Aah yes, Tostao, Garrincha, Rivelino, Carlos Alberto et al. Names that glide off the tongue.

We got Bernard.

Chris Gould
50 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:21:58
Wow, Brands goes about his business stealthily!
Brands and Silva appear to be classy operators.
It's going to be an exciting 3 days.
Pat Kelly
51 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:23:04
FFS are we turning into Brazil now ? Hope he's as good as Klaassen.
Bill Gienapp
52 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:23:55
Jamie (46) - didn't we need to secure a work permit for Funes Mori when he arrived at the transfer deadline? Am I remembering that correctly?
James Marshall
53 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:24:14
The attacker is due to fly into England tomorrow to complete the move after major shareholder Farhad Moshiri, Marcel Brands and chairman Bill Kenwright all worked on getting a deal over the line.

According to the Echo

Geoff Trenner
54 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:26:27
I will believe it when I see him in the shirt!
Jamie Crowley
55 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:26:53
Bill @ 52 -

I've the memory of a field mouse, I can't recall if Funes Mori needed one.

I do recall being disappointed numerous times as work permits failed to come to fruition.

Fingers crossed.

Geoff Trenner
56 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:27:41
James @ 53, isn’t he a midfielder?
Mal van Schaick
57 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:27:43
YouTubed. Neat skills, industrial and assists. Good signing if it’s done.
Michael Lynch
58 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:28:20
James

After we missed out on Malcom, we were always going to go for a Barnard.

Anyway... love how we kept this one totally under the radar. Brilliant stuff. We might lose a few games, but hopefully it will 5-4 every time we do.

Mike Gaynes
59 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:28:36
5'5", 130 and a hell of a lot of fun to watch.

And you know what I love about this? That there wasn't even a sniff of this in any of the rumors until a few hours ago.

Told ya Brands was working under the radar!

James Marshall
60 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:29:39
Geoff@56

Yeah he is, an attacking midfielder.

Philip Bunting
61 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:29:41
Brands and Silva are going after players that are exciting, what we need, top quality signings. If they keep this up these two could take us back to the promised land in a season or 2. Very excited about this, just what we need, a player who can actually create a yard or two and make things tick this is why we need this type of player and not a squad full of average Joe midfielders plodding along week after week. Please make this happen
Mike Gaynes
62 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:30:03
Geoff #54, they'll have to get one from the youth academy!
Tony Marsh
63 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:30:11
Marco Silva has his fingerprints all over this deal if true. Same as the Richarlison signing. The Portuguese language has a lot to do with these Brazilian lads coming here. On a free as well that covers the Klaassen and Sigurdsson fiascoes.

Finally, Everton are shaping up like a proper club, making our intention known. The days of signing 30-year-olds have gone.

Mike Gaynes
64 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:31:04
And stitch a number 8 on it!
Dermot Byrne
65 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:32:06
Wiki

Club information
Current team
Everton

Must be true.

James Marshall
66 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:32:46
Other noteable Bernards that I can think of:

Bernard Hopkins
Bernard Madoff
Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery
Bernard Cribbins (who once saved my Grandad from drowning - true story)
Bernard Sumner
Bernard Breslaw

Andrew Ellams
67 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:33:20
Could this finally be the replacement for Arteta?
Mike Gaynes
68 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:33:28
Keith #36, we're going to have to discuss your unhealthy obsession with Tierney.
Michael Lynch
69 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:33:32
Richarlison and Bernard at Goodison Park. Just call us Brazil.

One or two new CDs and I can't wait for Southampton on August 18th.

Does this mean only one defensive mid, with Siggy and Bernard both playing in the midfield three, or is it an either/or?

Brent Stephens
70 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:33:40
St Bernard
Michael Lynch
71 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:34:30
Bernadette Nolan. Does she count?
Derek Knox
72 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:35:13
Brent @70, Patron Saint of Botched Transfers ?
John Malone
73 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:35:13
Jamie 55, had to laugh when I read your comment mate I had thought the exact same thing!

The Manuel Fernandes deal was the one that killed me off the most I was a young lad then and thought he was quality I was devastated when he didn’t sign.

You live and learn I’ll get excited when he’s at finch farm with the royal blue on.

James Marshall
74 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:35:17
Hahaha, St Bernard
Mike Gaynes
75 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:36:42
And Bernardo O'Reilly of The Magnificent Seven.
Brent Stephens
76 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:36:56
DK, that's the one. Brandy barrel around his neck (cast off from that geezer we had who crashed his car while under the affluence).
Barry McNally
77 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:37:32
Weekend at Bernie's.
Eric Paul
79 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:38:09
James
Bernard Wright aka Bernie the bolt
Brent Stephens
80 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:38:15
Bernie's Inn
Brent Stephens
81 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:38:34
...I hope
James Marshall
82 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:38:35
Does Schnorbitz count?
Albert Veldhuizen
83 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:39:40
Granting a work permit .feel like shit deja vu
Don Alexander
84 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:40:35
On another thread Mike Gaynes was discussing Gaizka Mendieta today, a player I really liked. Hopefully this lad's cur from the same cloth.

Well done to M&M if it comes off.

Soren Moyer
85 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:40:51
Just one word. WOW! Now we have 2 in the building then!
Niall McIlhone
86 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:40:59
Amit #45, …….and who could possibly forget the magnificent Brazillian trio of excrement-based names?
DUNGA KAKA and DUDU!
Michael Lynch
87 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:42:08
Supposedly he was asking for silly wages cos he was on a free. But in today's market, especially to Everton, he has to be worth £30m, so we can afford to pay him silly wages assuming the rest of the squad don't go on strike.
Eric Paul
88 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:42:15
We couldn’t get a work permit for st Teresa of Calcutta
Keith Harrison
89 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:42:23
James, 44, John Hancock was our old Managing Director. Spooky coincidence, or am I missing something?
Mike G, Tierney will be absolute class my fiend. I'd still have him and play him Cb or left midfield with a Gana type but that can pass. Baningime will oust Gueye and Schneids soon hopefully. If Marcel can't sell Schneids. Exchange with the French lads for their CB?
Mike Gaynes
90 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:43:20
She flatters to deceive, Eric.
Jamie Tulacz
91 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:44:10
Interesting tactics by West Ham, spending their money on bogs.. Still they've always been a bit bog standard

Interesting to see where Bernard fits in- could it be centrally given the number of wingers we have?

Keith Harrison
92 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:44:45
Michael, 87, if they're on a free, give them a big signing on fee, with wages in line with the rest. No one should be unhappy then. Even pay the signing on fee in annual instalments over the length of contract to keep them keen.
Alan McGuffog
93 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:44:52
Michael 58. If we had got Malcolm as well we could have had a central midfield / hairdressers partnership. Malcolm and Bernards .anything for the weekend sir ?
James Marshall
94 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:45:20
Keith@89

A 'John Hancock' is slang for a signature - he famously signed the American declaration of independence with a MASSIVE signature right across the document.

Jamie Crowley
95 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:45:40
You know the seagulls in Finding Nemo? The ones who say over and over, "MINE MINE MINE!"

I feel like if you put together a cartoon of the English, you'd have them be those seagulls but you'd replace the words with, "PUN PUN PUN!"

I've never seen such intelligent, witty comments based upon plays-on-words ever in my life from people such as those on TW.

You love your puns, and more importantly you always do them justice.

Back to work

Keith Harrison
96 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:45:51
Jamie, he'll play alongside Schnorbitz, sorry, Schneiderlien in the middle.
Kelvin Thomas
97 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:46:59
Well done Moshiri, well done Kenwright, well done Marcel Brands and well done Marco.
Great coup. He will give our team a different dimention.

Even in Martinez’ first season and ever since, all of our attacking play relied upon certain attackers turning and running towards opposition goal. There was a lack of any build up play in the final third.

Since Pienaar, Arteta and Osman (at his best) we’ve completely lacked guile in the final third.

Really chuffed with this news. Totally unexpected!

Jack Convery
98 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:47:00
In Brazil he stood out as a real talent - that takes some doing. If we have pulled this out of the hat - a big well done to all involved. He's a definite improvement on what we already have. Though Sandra Redknapp would be a big improvement on most of our squad these days. Maybe he could date Alisson !
James Marshall
99 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:47:11
Best thread on TW in years. Well done gents, keep up the good work.
Michael Lynch
100 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:47:22
His hair's a bit shit though, which is disappointing
Dermot Byrne
101 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:47:27
Bernard Hill

"Giz a job"

Spooky

Jamie Crowley
102 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:08
Schnorbitz LMAO.

Jesus where do you get it?

James Marshall
103 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:15
We needed someone with shit hair to offset the gleaming, preening majesty that is Tom Davies.
Keith Harrison
104 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:37
James, he was also the Managing Director of Sealy beds for years. Still see him occasionally, absolute gentleman.
I get the feeling Bernie might bolt before we get him, otherwise he'd be a Golden Shot.

Fan of Hendrix by the way, James?

Mark Boullé
105 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:41
James Marshall - you missed out the chap that General Melchett bumped into in the mess :)

Anybody who doesn't get that reference hasn't lived...!

On a serious note, this is a very exciting signing if we can pull out off!

Pat Kelly
106 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:51
Remember this time last year when we so MoneySupermarket about all those promising signings. Nah, it couldn't happen again. Surely.
Ray Said
107 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:48:55
Watching Sky Sports reporting that ' Everton beat out Chelsea and Athletico Madrid to sign him'. Long time since we heard a statement like that ( yes I know its just a reporters blurb but it made me feel good)
Michael Lynch
108 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:49:07
It's like Christmas. You've been telling your mum and dad what presents you want, and then you wake up and they've only gone and got you a fucking Johnny 7 as well!

Paul Tran
109 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:49:09
Niall #86, even better than that, Celtic signed a player called Scheidt, then decided to have his first name, Rafael, printed on the back!
Keith Harrison
110 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:50:23
Kelvin, 97, Guile is due to come here in January mate. Seeing out his palmeiras contract.
James Marshall
111 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:50:51
Beds, signatures, he can do it all. No job too small.

Keith, yeah big Hendrix fan, well spotted.

Mark, I don't remember that but I do remember that Nursie's real name was BERNARD!

Lee Paige
112 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:51:43
Excited but expecting disappointment at the same time.
Andy Crooks
113 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:52:41
James@ 66. I must know.
Conor Skelly
114 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:53:04
James @30, Jaime@41.

He can play anywhere in midfield. He naturally drifts inside when played out wide. He's a midfielder in the mold of Juninho / Coutinho and M&M no doubt envisage him pulling the strings from a deeper position.

I do tend to get overexcited whenever we sign anyone, but this signing is a different kettle of fish altogether. I think it could be the turning point that we've needed to take a massive step forward in terms of our identity and CL aspirations in the coming years.

Rob Halligan
115 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:53:47
Bernard Manning. Hope our Bernard is not a dirty bastard like Mr Manning.
Brent Stephens
116 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:53:59
Dermot #101. Bernard "Giz-a-job" Hill - now we could do with a few like him. And Shake-Hands.
Michael Lynch
117 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:54:27
Lee

That's the feeling I start every season with

Gary Drain
118 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:04
Watched a few clips of him and he looks a player! There's a good clip of him against City last year, reminds me of Silva. Wants to play the ball forward from midfield and create, which would make a change.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE99rrjQ7Y4

I think he would be exactly what Tosun needs.

Rob Halligan
119 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:07
Oh by the way, seeing as this thread is in full flow, I've also been told that Mina is a done deal.
Michael Lynch
120 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:22
Weird thread this. Everyone's excited.
Andy Crooks
121 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:33
James@ 103, you are on the top of your game on this thread.
Derek Knox
122 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:55:55
Does anyone think he looks like a young Johnny Depp, or Captain Jack Sparrow, before visiting make-up ?
James Marshall
123 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:56:24
Andy@113

About Bernard Cribbins saving my long dead old Grandad from drowning? He was well old at the time, and loved fly fishing - he was at the Queen Mother reservoir one day and slipped over & fell into the drink. Knocked spark out and slid into the water, a passer by (Cribbins) spotted him and leapt into the water, fished (pun intended) him out and revived him on the spot.

The silly old bugger lived another 12 years thanks to Bernard Cribbins.

Jamie Crowley
124 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:56:42
Conor -

TY. I'm fucking jacked to the tits over this one.

Link

Brent Stephens
125 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:57:17
And Mina done deal? Rob!

Anybody want to feel my goosebumps?

Michael Lynch
126 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:57:47
I really like the way he has a pedestrian crossing man tattooed on his right arm. That's original.
Peter Askins
127 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:57:58
... and I'll tell you who else is going to be excited, Theo Walcott. At last, we might have a player who can anticipate a Walcott "out-to-in" run, and put a through ball to him where he doesn't have to break stride, or change direction !

Mike Gaynes
128 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:58:11
Lee #112, always a ray of sunshine. When we win the FA Cup you'll be predicting who will drop it.
Grant Rorrison
129 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:58:20
Is this some kind of sick fucking joke or have we really signed him?
Brent Stephens
130 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:58:47
James, what a cracking story. You little name-dropper, you!

Right said Fred...

Keith Harrison
131 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:59:14
James, both Paul Rodgers and The Hamsters do fine live Hendrix sets.

And don't forget, as BERNARD said, "it's a boy, without a winkle"

Nowt wrong with Mr Manning, Rob. Good clean fun. ST landed today too mate. Panic over.

Rob Halligan
132 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:59:38
Speaking to a neighbour earlier on, Brent. He told me it's done. This same neighbour told me Lukaku was going to United, way before any deal was announced for him.
Mike Gaynes
133 Posted 06/08/2018 at 20:59:50
Brent, sure, if I can wear gloves. Don't know where you've been, mate.
Brent Stephens
134 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:00:18
Rob, I could kiss... ah, no, forget it.
Steve Cotton
135 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:00:32
That's the end of Sandro then, surely??
Adam Luszniak
137 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:03
Exciting stuff. Will he play as a Number 10, or further back? Looks more like an attacking mid to me so perhaps competition for Sigurdsson?
James Marshall
138 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:24
Brent, if I can't drop my Bernard Cribbins story on here, where the hell can I drop it!?

Keith, I might have to dig out some Blackadder after this. I'm over excited and sweating like a fat girl in a disco over here!

Mike Gaynes
139 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:25
Forgive the Yank... but who is Bernard Cribbins?
Lee Paige
140 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:29
Steady on, Rob – we need confirmation first, this is Everton. Calm down!
Rob Halligan
141 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:01:50
Apart from coming from Manchester, Keith. 😂😂
Fran Mitchell
142 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:02:54
Well that was unexpected.

Very interesting, I wonder where he'll fit in.

Richarlison - Walcott - Bernard

or will he be deployed behind Tosun in a No 10 role with Sigurdsson dropping deeper? Or could he be a deep-sitting central midfield creator.

I really know nothing of the player, tbh, but it's still exciting.

Brent Stephens
143 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:02:55
Mike G..
Link
James Marshall
144 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:03:12
Mike - he did a lot of things but I'll always remember for him narrating the Wombles, and saving my Grandad from drowning - which I may have already mentioned once or twice.
Conor Skelly
145 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:03:20
Jaime@124

So you should be, mate. On paper, it's the best signing we've made since Kanchelskis IMHO. The lads World Class.

Rob Halligan
146 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:04:01
I agree Lee. I won't even believe this Bernard transfer until I see him in a blue shirt holding up a scarf.
Will Mabon
147 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:04:07
It's not on BBC Sport football site therefore it must be untrue.
Eric Paul
148 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:04:53
Michael Lynch
Johnny 7 fuckin priceless
Keith Harrison
149 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:05:31
James, 138, don't forget to be polite when using the never fail chat-up line, "You don't perspire much for a tad overweight lady". Or "Fart and give us a clue!"

Bernard Cribbins was the man mistaken for the hotel inspector by Basil in Fawlty Towers, Mike. And voiced The Wombles!

Colin Glassar
150 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:07:02
The wife’s got all excited about this and has decided to go all Brazilian!
Brent Stephens
151 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:07:11
Mike, Cribbins also saved some guy from drowning I seem to recall.
Pat Kelly
152 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:07:31
It's true ! He's been spotted in London. Standing in the work permit queue behind Onyekuru.
James Marshall
153 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:08:10
Really, Brent? Tell us more...
Brent Stephens
154 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:09:11
You never heard that one, James?
Keith Harrison
155 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:09:21
Will, 147, BBC are still writing their piece up which will include "Shaktar Donetsk reject Bernard, who is the same nationality as Liverpool's Firmino and Fabinho, only well poorer financially, and not nearly as good has been signed by Tranmere Rovers' main rivals, Everton."

Or lines along that ilk.

Jon Bentley
156 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:09:53
Colin Glasser said it's done.

If it's good enough for Glasstranamus, it's good enough for me.

Brian Williams
157 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:10:12
Shaved her beard eh Col?
Derek Knox
158 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:10:32
Mike G, he was a comedy actor (60's, 70's) and had a couple of comedy songs, which did quite well in the charts, also did a few voice overs for various kids programmes.

He was quite a character, try Wiki, it may give you more info!

James Marshall
159 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:10:57
Oh hang on, it does ring a bell. Yeah, I think I might have heard it.
Keith Harrison
160 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:11:25
Brian,157, that wasn't a beard mate, just a very, VERY low cut dress.
Keith Harrison
161 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:12:09
James, your Granda didn't used to go fishing did he??
Rob Halligan
162 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:12:10
Has your missus gone nuts, colin?
Andy Crooks
163 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:12:36
Is Bernard Cribbins a blue? Did he not say Coyb on Jackanory?
Brent Stephens
164 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:13:33
Colin, does she pull that funny face when she shaves?
Will Mabon
165 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:14:12
Keith, anything's possible with "Auntie"...
Alan McGuffog
166 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:14:25
Had a very good role in an episode of Fawlty Towers.
Fran Mitchell
167 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:15:05
I remember seeing this lad was available, and reports along the lines of him asking for wages of £200k. I presume that has been drastically reduced, but it definitely sets the pulses racing.

Our attacking and creativity have certainly improved over the summer, and with 2 Brazilians of this pedigree, Goodison should be a game fun place to watch football.

I am made up too because with 2 Brazilians in the team, we are likely to be regulars on ESPN Brasil this season, meaning less time going crazy with woeful streams on woeful Brazilian net services. Now just to convince the wife that ESPN is a wise investment for our TV service...

Darren Hind
168 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:15:22
Now we're talking . . and on a free ?
James Marshall
169 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:16:27
Keith, funnily enough he was a very keen fly fisherman all his life. Also built Rolls Royce Merlin engines during the war. He was a fine fellow.
John Hammond
170 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:16:31
Wow amazing if this happens. Him and Sigurdsson sat in front of Gana maybe?

I can just see him scoring the winner at Anfield and becoming St Bernard.

Rob Halligan
171 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:16:37
Darren, what you on about?
Derek Knox
172 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:17:08
These 'fishing tales' get bigger and bigger.
Mark Boullé
173 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:17:17
Just for you James Marshall! Couldn't find the exact clip on you tube, but this is the extract...

Darling: Captain Blackadder to see you sir.

Melchett: Ah, excellent. Just a short back and sides today I think

Darling: Er, that's Corporal Black, sir. Captain Blackadder is here, about the other matter sir, the secret matter.

Melchett: Ah, yes, the special mission. At ease Blackadder. Now what I'm about to tell you is absolutely tip-top-secret is that clear?

Blackadder: It is sir.

Melchett: Now, I've compiled a list of those with security clearance, have you got it Darling?

Darling: Yes sir.

Melchett: Read it please.

Darling: It's top security sir, I think that's all the Captain needs to know.

Melchett: Nonsense! Let's hear the list in full!

Darling: Very well sir. "List of personnel cleared for mission
Gainsborough, as dictated by General C. H. Melchett: You and me, Darling, obviously. Field Marshal Haig, Field Marshal Haig's wife, all Field Marshal Haig's wife's friends, their families, their families' servants, their families' servants' tennis partners, and some chap I bumped into the mess the other day called Bernard."

James Marshall
174 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:19:16
Hahaha, nice one Mark. This is easily the best thread on TW in bloody ages. And all because of some bloke called Bernard.
Ciarán McGlone
175 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:19:22
Silva must not be too impressed with Sigurdsson... good.

Geoff Lambert
176 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:20:03
Can we rename him Bernardio or Bernardinio or some thing like that.
Keith Harrison
177 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:20:53
Class Mark. The Darling speech to Capt. Darling before Melchett went to the theatre with George still my favourite though.

Darren okay mate. Must have a jar this year.

Keith Harrison
178 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:21:50
Anfieldslayerio will do me Geoff.
Bill Watson
179 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:21:54
Jamie and Bill; re work permit.

This will be a fabulous signing...but the work permit could be tricky.

The application rules for non EU players is they must have played in 30% of their national side's games in the last 3 years. It appears as if Bernard's last game for Brazil was in 2014!!

He played in Spain for a few years so could have some sort of Spanish papers. Let's hope this doesn't go pear shaped!

Paul Tran
180 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:21:58
Does this mean we might be bordering on entertaining this season?!
Pat Kelly
181 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:23:28
Could Schneiderlin not give him his work permit. He hasn't used it yet.
Brent Stephens
182 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:24:19
Pat that's libelous but hilarious.
Jamie Crowley
183 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:24:24
Bill 179 -

SURELY, SURELY the new regime which has it's head seemingly screwed on straight, would have vetted that minor fact PRIOR to the news being leaked??

Surely?

James Marshall
184 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:24:30
Pat@181

Take a bow. Drop the mic. Close the thread.

Keith Harrison
185 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:25:06
No Paul, unfortunately. This thread is copyrighted, and will be this seasons sole source of entertainment.

Unless we get Bernards mates Bert and Maurice to join us too. Hope you are well .

Christy Ring
186 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:27:38
Things are looking up!!!!
Brent Stephens
187 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:29:32
Mike Gaynes, you you might also like this one by Bernard Cribbins - digging a hole..
Link

Followed by Lonnie Donegan - Does your chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedside over night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6bFTVi0hHs

Paul Tran
188 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:29:46
I'm very well thanks, Keith and if the football's half as good as this thread, we'll enjoy it!
Tony Everan
189 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:30:15
I will believe it when I see Bernard in a blue shirt and waving a scarf . Or doing the new-fangled ubercool YouTube diddlydoo . Same goes for Harry Mina .

Man Utd, Lyon and Tottenham probably phoning his agent as we speak. Wake up tomorrow morning to

Everton Bernard deal Hijacked by

Keith Harrison
190 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:30:42
James, 184, one for you - and Darren.

https://youtu.be/R_7Wh0iYr6g

Uli Jon Roth

Anthony Dove
191 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:31:34
St Bernard. Dogs of war 2?
Derek Knox
192 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:31:37
Bill @179, I hope I'm right but I can't see them negotiating this deal, without having explored the Work Permit situation.

I believe Marcel brands to be pretty astute in these matters, whereas the Everton of old could have easily overlooked such a trivial matter.

Colin Glassar
193 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:31:53
So what are we going to call him as Bernard makes him sound like a dentist or an accountant? Berninho sounds a bit sexier or Bernardinho? Anything but Bernard or Bernie.
Zahir Jaffer
194 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:33:25
@193 Nardo
Rob Halligan
195 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:34:21
Colin, you won't get his full name on the back of a shirt

Bernard Anício Caldeira Duarte.

Brent Stephens
196 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:34:42
"Posh Bernard" perhaps?
Keith Harrison
197 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:35:13
Colin, lay off the accountants. Already had shit for being called Keith!! Accountancy is only boring when it's done right pal!!
Keith Harrison
198 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:36:13
Pity his first name wasn't Anicio, Rob. We'd just call him ABCD, or Alphabet for long!!
Craig Walker
199 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:38:42
I won’t believe it till we’ve all got the email with him pictured in a blue shirt and the official autograph in the bottom corner.
Mike Gaynes
200 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:38:52
Thanks, Brent.

Wow, this thread is fun. It's like everybody's drunk/high on our transfer window.

Bill Watson
201 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:40:31
Ooops. It appears he went straight from Brazil to the Ukraine and hasn't played in Spain.
Chris Watts
202 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:41:37
He’s tiny. Gonna get brushed off like Klaassen. No enthusiasm for this.
Colin Glassar
203 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:41:57
Total respect for number crunchers Keith. They do an invaluable job . so I’m told. Not like dentists called Bernie. Though the wife, who’s promising to go full Brazilian if he signs, is a dentist.
Mark Tanton
204 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:42:31
I am drooling over my laptop and have closed all the porn down. That's how good this transfer news is.
Brent Stephens
205 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:43:35
Colin, my wife got a full Brazilian. Decided she didn't like it so she's wearing a toupe.
Keith Harrison
206 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:44:28
No prick/mouth jokes from me Col.

Chris watts, you owe me a cone of chips lad. Had to throw mine out after you pissed on them.

Rob Halligan
207 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:44:33
Colin, don't say the word crunching to keith. You'll get him started on his damaged toe.😂😂😂
Darren Hind
208 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:44:43
Will do Keith

Have you renewed your season ticket ? - not the one for park end, the one for the alehouse

Michael Lynch
209 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:45:12
Chris @202

Cheers, we needed someone to pop the bubble.

True though, he looks like a tiny monkey, like the ones they used to give you to hold in Blacklers back in the 60s so they could take a picture of you. Allegedly. I'm far too young to remember, but me dad told me.

Still, if nothing else, he can sit on Pickfords shoulder and entertain the Street End at half time.

Fran Mitchell
210 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:45:22
The brazilian wiki already have him as an Everton player. his full name is Bernard Anício Caldeira Duarte. Why the hell it is Bernard and not bernardo, god only knows. But Brazilians are fond of giving their kids aglo-saxon names. My landlord is called Jon Kenedy. And I have seen/heard numerous names that make you want to chuckle but you have to hold it in.
Eric Paul
211 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:45:33
High on craic and toting a Johnny 7
Keith Harrison
212 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:45:52
Thanks Rob, speaking of which
Keith Harrison
213 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:46:20
Both, Darren, both.
Andrew Ellams
214 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:46:33
He'll get his work permit from the same place as Niasse.
Chris Watts
215 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:47:02
Only joking Keith-we’ve needed this type of player for years. Does anyone know if he’s white over 5m like hazard and messi?

Wonder what this means for gylfi? And Lookman

And Morgan. Need 2 monster centres backs now and can’t wait for saturday

Chris Watts
217 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:48:00
Quick!!
Neil Copeland
218 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:48:00
Fantastic thread, thanks to all for a great read and laugh.

Pat - absolute classic!

Kristian Boyce
220 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:49:46
The pretty reliable transfermarkt.com have him listed as having both Brazilian and Spanish nationality, so we should be good.
Keith Harrison
221 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:51:28
Lookman looked someone had shit in his shorts on Sat. Hope M & M get his head right - or ship him out for a big fee. If he can't see a project evolving here and want to be part of it, get rid or part ex for a cb.
Keith Harrison
222 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:53:11
Cheers Chris. Fishcake as well pal.
Colin Glassar
223 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:53:34
Daily fail saying he’s having his medical tomorrow. Mina can do one if he’s doing a Sissoko on us. Apparently, Rojo is, and always has been, Silva’s first choice and we’re just waiting for united to sign Maguire before they sell us Rojo.

No more hair related jokes please. Stop being a bunch of pussies!

Keith Harrison
224 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:54:10
Battered sausage, curry sauce, large pickle. No mushy peas. Beans instead.
Robert Leigh
225 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:54:35
Anyone else fancy Gareth Barry on the cheap?

Could play anywhere through the middle- including left of Holgate at CB.

Antony Matthews
226 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:55:09
We missed a trick. The away kit should have been yellow like Brazil's.
Neil Copeland
227 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:55:40
Perhaps we can call him Bernaldo?
Keith Harrison
228 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:56:34
Ha, Colin.
That worries me though. Rojo is a Funes Mori clone to me. Not impressed, and United rejects always let us down of late. Lindelof best of their bad bunch, or the dutch lad, De ligt?
Len Hawkins
229 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:56:44
Three for the Oldies Bernard Delfont (Sunday Night at the London Palladium. Bernard Braden (Bradens Beat TV Programme 60's/70's) Bernard Lee (M in James Bond). Then of course there was Bernard who had the Bernard School of Motoring in Southport he was an L of a bloke.
Keith Harrison
230 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:57:01
Balderino.
Tommy Meehan
231 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:57:33
Sweet choice, Keith. Uli is a legend!
Colin Glassar
232 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:59:00
Bernie Winters, Len. Remember him from the Mike and Bernie show?

Keith, I’d prefer Lindelöf as well.

Keith Harrison
233 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:59:07
Saw him couple of years ago up here. Magician, Tommy.
Jack Convery
234 Posted 06/08/2018 at 21:59:28
Wasn't Bernard one of the mice in Disneys the Rescuers ? If there is a squad and a fan base that needs rescuing after last season its surely us.

Another Bernard was the Bass player in Chic (RIP) - he was super cool.

Keith Harrison
235 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:00:20
Thats where my Schnorbitz post came from, Col. The Mike and Bernie show.
Eric Yarker
236 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:01:16
Sure it's not that Turkey international, Bernard Matthews.
Kevin Jones
237 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:01:38
Ohhhhh Mike & Bernie, the two Worse Winters in history.
Keith Harrison
238 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:01:56
Jack, watched that Saturday with the grand kids, the down under version. Love Disney classics.
Tommy Meehan
239 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:02:03
Caught him at the Gallagher fest a few years back, Keith. He was after re-recording some of his 70s Scorpions stuff. One of the best gigs I've ever seen. Zen-like rock 'n roll presence live...
Colin Glassar
240 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:03:51
Sorry Keith, haven’t read all the posts. Schnorbitz was the dog right? St. Bernard? A bit before my time but my mum and dad used to love those two.
Kristian Boyce
241 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:04:07
As the great Bernard Matthews would say, Bootiful Bernard!
Keith Harrison
242 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:04:28
Courtois gone awol. I would report him missing presumed kidnapped, and then have Real Madrid charged with wasting police time, and Courtois with attempting to impersonate the worlds best goalie, JP.
Tony Williams
243 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:05:12
NOW GET LASELLES.
Tom Bowers
244 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:05:25
Wow ! A freebie and look how much RS paid for Shaqiri !
Keith Harrison
245 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:05:34
Be there in Cork next year Tommy. Loved Rory.
Colin Glassar
246 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:05:56
Bernard Manning and Breslaw come to mind
Fran Mitchell
247 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:07:37
Would like to see us gazump Spurs' and get Grealish too - if anything, just to fuck spurs' over, they've done it enough to us. Add Mina and Lascelles and that'd be a cracking team. may take a while to gel, but woud be a good bet for FA cup this year and top4 next.
Keith Harrison
248 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:09:06
Tommy, visited Nuremburg 3 years ago for xmas market. Went round all the bars we went in at the Everton Euro match there in 2007. Irish bar had a poster of Rory. Turned out a Rory fest held every year in the next City, Wurth. Bloody good too, had free drink all night on the strength of half a dozen old Rory tickets.
Jack Convery
249 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:09:40
Just read Pats comment about Shiterlin - will take some beating this season, will that cracker. Excellent Pat - go to the top of the class.
Keith Harrison
250 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:10:12
Mina and Gomes plus £45 mill for Pogba according to Sky. Looks like Utd not interested.
Don Alexander
251 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:12:23
I'm just wondering whether Micky Bernard ever had a dirty weekend in Rio after he retired? They say genes sometimes skip a generation don't they.
Frank Wade
252 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:13:30
For the work permit rules 1. He must have played 30% of Brazil's games in past two years.

He doesn't qualify for that so can appeal on an exceptions basis, in which he needs 4 points.

He has no transfer fee, so no points there. Next one is his wages, so he needs to be in the top 25% of the top 30 players' wages at Everton. Should easily qualify there with about 80k per week, so gets 3 points. If the team he is moving from has played in the group stages or more in the Champions league in past 12 months and he has played 30% of games, another 1 point.

So, he should qualify for a work permit.

Keith Harrison
253 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:16:17
Spot on Frank.
Jack Convery
254 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:16:31
After the Golden Vision we now have St Bernard AKA The Saint.
Jack Convery
255 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:18:17
Bernard and Richarlson for £40m = £20m a piece - bargain spending.
Tommy Meehan
256 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:20:04
Didn't know about that festival, Keith, but I'm going to look it up! Free booze and all into the bargain? That's the real 'spirit' of Christmas right there. . .
Ray Roche
257 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:20:58
James@138

''sweating like a fat bird in a disco'' or a blind lesbian in a fish market.
Or Micky Quinn outside Greggs.

Frank Wade
258 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:23:28
Excuse my ignorance Ray, what is/was Greggs?
Paul Birmingham
259 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:24:15
Let’s hope so. If the deal gets the permit and meets the regs, possibly a new stylein terms of playing, and this may cause more outbound moves by next January.

To have a nimble, mobile play maker, again, could release the full potential of these players.

Neil Copeland
260 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:25:56
Frank, a bakery and pie shop

James - brilliant!

Tony Sullivan
261 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:27:07
Re the work permit issue, if he has Portugese parents/grandparents the work permit should not be an obstacle to the deal.
Areal coup for Brands.
John Dean
262 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:27:09
So his former club don't get a fee; I betcha he does!
Frank Wade
263 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:30:24
John #262, assume we have paid big for this to beat the other clubs who were interested. That will be a first, sorry second after Siggy last year.
Chris Watts
264 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:30:37
I really hope schiedelin gies this transfer window. Can’t stand the way he plays
Oliver Molloy
265 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:32:42
Jesus Christ, totally off subject but have been listening to Sky's the debate with ex reds Redknapp and Murphy and talk about being up each other's arse .
Sky really need to get a grip and get Roy Keane sat amongst these pricks and tell them how much shite they talk.
Oliver Molloy
266 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:32:42
Jesus Christ, totally off subject but have been listening to Sky's the debate with ex reds Redknapp and Murphy and talk about being up each other's arse .
Sky really need to get a grip and get Roy Keane sat amongst these pricks and tell them how much shite they talk.
Ray Smith
267 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:32:59
Frank 252

You obviously know your stuff.

Excuse my ignorance, but did he play in the CL with Shaktar in the last 12 mths?

Mark Pringle
268 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:33:25
Hold on a minute lads, my papa is called Bernard and he's not been at home for a couple of days. We've been stitched up again, he's not a bad player though for 82 :-)
Great signing, absolutely great signing!!
Ray Roche
269 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:34:22
Frank@258

A shop that sells pasties, cakes etc. and a pie which is basically a cat's paw surrounded by pastry.
Heart attack central.

Derek Knox
270 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:37:53
Apparently his surname is Coup, that's what it says on the Headline!

Taxi!

Keith Harrison
271 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:38:34
Tommy, can't find any more details on Wurth. The poster advertising it was in the Finnegans Harp bar in Nurnberg.
Grant Rorrison
272 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:41:29
Ray 267. What?!?! Kind of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YrREC0SDMQ

Check 1.03 mins in.

Keith Harrison
273 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:42:27
Tommy, it's called Furth. And its annual.
Steve Ferns
274 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:43:22
Really surprised by this signing. What a coup for the club.

As for how I think we will play. Well we have a middle triangle of Gueye, Schneiderlin and Sigurdsson. Gylfi is at the tip and Gueye and Schneiderlin are the "double pivot" at the base. I expect Silva to flip the triangle. Therefore, "single pivot" at the base, and two attacking midfielders at the other end. This means Schneiderlin to sit deep and Gylfi and Bernard to be ahead of him behind the striker.

Sorry guys, in this formation the single pivot needs to be disciplined (ie static), needs to be able to tackle and pass, and to have height. Gueye can't play this role. Expect Morgan Schneiderlin to be even more secure in his place as a result of this signing.

Tom Bowers
275 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:43:49
Hope he is a big improvement on the last Bernard Everton got from Stoke back in the seventies.
Andrew Ellams
276 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:46:10
Steve if that's the case there will only be room for two up top. Who misses out? I see him maybe playing Gana, Bernard and Gylfi as a middle 3 and the front 3 from Saturday.
Steve Ferns
277 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:11
No chance Andrew, it's Gueye who misses out:

Pickford
Coleman ? ? Digne
Schneiderlin
Sigurdsson Bernard
Walcott Tosun Charlie

Colin Glassar
278 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:27
Keith, it’s not Wurth it mate. I’ll leave now.
Peter Gorman
279 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:28
Why are people looking to youtube on this guy, it is Bernard! Bernard I tell you!

This is great news, as much as we like a whinge and a vent, so far the new management have brought in massive improvements over the dross we've signed under the previous regimes.

Mr Brands knows what he is doing and I'm very happy about that.

Peter Gorman
280 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:28
Why are people looking to youtube on this guy, it is Bernard! Bernard I tell you!

This is great news, as much as we like a whinge and a vent, so far the new management have brought in massive improvements over the dross we've signed under the previous regimes.

Mr Brands knows what he is doing and I'm very happy about that.

Frank Wade
281 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:48:59
Thanks Ray R.
Ray S #267. Just checked them here and he played in most of the games. Just needs 2.4 games to play 30% of 8 games. Link
Phil Sammon
282 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:49:33
Steve 274

You seem to be playing 4 people in a triangle.

Frank Wade
283 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:51:30
Steve, I 'thought' I remembered Bernard played for Brazil way back as a winger ?? Did he move inside later ?
Steve Ferns
284 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:52:30
No Phil, I was trying to explain how Idrissa Gueye drops out. He lacks the discipline, height, and passing to play as a single pivot. Really we need a better player here, but it is very likely Schniederlin will get at least another 12 months.
Steve Ferns
285 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:54:42
Yeah Frank, he is a left winger / number 10. Silva will play Charlie and Bernard. So he either drops Walcott and plays Charlie on the right, or he drops Gueye, inverts the midfield triangle and plays two attacking midfielders. I predict the latter.
Frank Wade
286 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:54:52
Steve, I'd be worried if Gana is not in this team. I agree his lack of discipline is a worry and he needs a Barry type alongside. We hardly won a ball v Valencia after he went off.
Dave Rinehart
287 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:55:25
Somebody please tell Mina that things are happening at our club and to quit messing about and sign.
Steve Ferns
288 Posted 06/08/2018 at 22:58:21
Sadly, I couldn't use my tickets on Saturday Frank, so I have only seen the highlights on EFC TV, and it doesn't show much. We need to combine Schneiderlin, Davies, and Gueye into one player, and then we'd be sorted in midfield.

Mina must be looking more closely at this now. Hopefully he still comes in. Barcelona cannot keep him as they have used up all their Non-EU slots and so Mina has to leave. We're his only option.

Ray Smith
289 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:02:29
Grant 272

Sorry for not being perfect!

However, this is a forum for discussion, where people can air their views and ask questions of fellow Evertonians.

Ernie Baywood
290 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:03:59
I've got no idea about this bloke. From YouTube he seems an exciting type. We've done a 'buy one at full price, get one free' on Brazilian attackers.

On the face of things if we ended up with two attackers, a new left back and a couple of centre backs (let's assume Mina's coming) then you'd say we've addressed a lot of problems and had a successful window. Individually, you could make a great case for each of the players...

but...

Richardson is a raw talent. Mina looked very raw to me. Bernard has spent the last four years in Russia (hasn't worked particularly well for us before... Bily, McGeady, Missed).

Only Digne really comes with pedigree.

Feels like it could be great fun with talented young players emerging... or it could really blow up in our face. I'm not sure that this level of uncertainty was exactly what we needed this summer.

For example we passed up on Jonny Evans. Yeah we can do better, and Mina may well be better - but he's also riskier.

I didn't want Allardyce's version of stability but this is a little riskier than I envisaged with Silva. Let's hope... COYB.

Frank Wade
291 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:04:39
Steve, Gana had one of his better games on Saturday, won a lot of ball, but the usual few misplaced passes thrown in of course.

Talk of Lyon for Mina apparently, but I would expect we are offering higher wages than Lyon with all the TV money. Fingers crossed.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

292 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:06:08
Globo Sport here in Brazil saying he is travelling NOW to Liverpool to finalize the deal, having considered offers from Chelsea and Milan, but accepting Everton's superior offer (6 million euros a year).

He won the Copa Libertadores with his home town club Athletico Mineiro 4 years ago, alongside ex-Blue Jo and Ronaldinho, in the twilight of his career.

Very promising youngster and a player of whom much was expected. Was selected for the home World Cup in 2014, but hasn't had a sniff of the national team since moving to Ukraine. He never shone for Brazil and I have no idea how he has performed in Ukraine. He kinda disappeared as far as Brazil is concerned.

If we land him, he MUST play central midfield. Who for, is open for debate. Although of similar build and style to Juninho, he of the 'Boro, he has yet to display similar quality or consistency to that very good player.

Tony Twist
293 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:11:35
Looks good but where are the two central defenders and centre midfielder who can control games. Without them we are lost.
Derek Knox
294 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:11:50
I seem to remember, we tried to get Bernard about three or four years ago was it under Martinez ?

So the guy must know that this is not a 'flash in the pan' move. Hopefully too getting him on board will attract other players to us.

Tom @275 remind me who that was, I was thinking Bernie Wright, but that was Birmingham, or Walsall!

Steve Ferns
295 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:11:52
Any idea of his fitness levels? He'll probably be sub for a couple of games, and come on for Sigurdsson to build his fitness, meaning we can keep the 4231 for now.
Jamie Crowley
296 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:11:53
Steve Ferns-

I realize you know entirely more than I regarding all things football, never mind all things Silva, but,

I think Gana should play the holding role in lieu of Schneiderlin.

He has an engine that doesn't quit, and he is a ball winner and a much, much better tackler. He will actually win the damn ball back and shut down the opposition. All he needs to do, after doing what he frankly does best, is move the damn ball off his feet to someone - anybody - else and get the play moving forward.

Schneids isn't fierce enough in front a a currently weak back duo of CBs to play. The back end of the spine will be as tough as butterflies in the park!

Make of that what you will.

Jamie Crowley
297 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:13:21
By the way Steve Ferns -

I hope you and your family are well friend.

Lee Paige
298 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:17:15
Nope until he signs I refuse to believe it, could even be somebody trying to wind us up.
Grant Rorrison
299 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:17:59
Ray 289. Sorry if it seemed like I was attacking you. I was just surprised that you weren't aware that he played in the CL last season. Or what a talent he is.
Chad Schofield
300 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:20:30
I'll admit to not reading the near 300 comments, but I have everything crossed for this!
Steve Ferns
301 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:21:05
Thanks Jamie. I wouldn't say I know more about it than yourself, and having a different opinion is great.

If Gueye plays the holding role, and the opposition run through the middle, past Sigurdsson and Bernard, because that will be a very soft centre, then they are running straight for Gueye. He will always come out of his position and attack the player, just like the even more undisciplined Besic. Schneiderlin would hold position and drop backwards making the player slow and give others time to recover. Sure, he'd probably skin Schneiderlin regardless, the way he's playing, but we need the holding midfielder to hold. Gueye cannot hold. He never has, he never will. He loses most of his game if he holds as well. He's better as a heat seeking missile racing around intercepting, closing down, harrying and tackling, but to do all of this, we need someone to sit in there and be static. Who does static better than Schneiderlin?

Derek Knox
302 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:23:16
Lee @298 I thought the same much earlier, but even Sky Transfer Centre has it boldly emblazoned on their actual Transfer News Deals.

Steve Ferns, glad you are back after all the sad time for you and your Mum.

Jamie Crowley
303 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:24:09
Steve -

I'd rather have a player who attacks the ball and has a penchant for winning the ball via interception or a tackle, rather than a player who holds shape for the sake of holding shape.

I see where you are coming from. Might be the gun-toting American in me to favor the more aggressive player and you may be right.

Schneids just drives me nuts to be honest.

One thing we can agree upon - Schneiderlin is indeed very static!!

Nicholas Ryan
304 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:24:20
So, have I got this right: we've signed a bloke who once saved Bernard Cribbins' grandad from drowning, in the Ukraine?
Steve Ferns
305 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:25:31
Thanks DK, my guy at EFC is seeing about sneaking a picture of Derek Mountfield, my father and I into the Saints programme with a brief message. Keep a look out for it.
Mike Gaynes
306 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:26:33
"Who does static better than Schneiderlin?"

That made me laugh more than all the Bernard puns put together.

Ray Smith
307 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:26:37
Grant 299

No worries m8😀

I’ve checked him out since posting.

Yes he did score against City.

Could be a catalyst for other quality signings! Now and in the future.

Mike Gaynes
308 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:28:20
Steve #305, please post that photo here too.
Steve Ferns
309 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:28:58
Jamie, your way leaves a gaping hole through the middle and leads to certain goals. Which is why I can't stand Besic. All he does is attack players he shouldn't leave gaping holes and cause us to concede goals, but all his forgiven because he shakes his fist and kicks a few people. The holding midfielder needs to hold. The best of them never stray from that position just in front of the back four, and force the opposition to go wide and block off any sight of goal. They don't run around like headless chickens.
Adam Luszniak
310 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:30:32
Steve Ferns, got to disagree on Schneiderlin as a holding midfielder. He doesn't tackle, he just concedes fouls. The player we need in that position is Gareth Barry on a good day. Now there was a holding midfielder. Rooney actually did it quite well at times last season too.

Schneiderlin has been a good player for us in the past but his tackling is poor, he doesn't have mobility, and he rarely passes forward. That last point is all the more frustrating as when he first signed for us there were quite a few games when his passing was excellent but that was some time ago!

Bobby Thomas
311 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:30:47
Mike #139

Who is Bernard Cribbins?

Bernard Cribbins is a National Treasure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge_4SlJWfl0

Mike Gaynes
312 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:32:02
Jay #292, thanks for the Brazil info. However, to me he much more resembles a left-footed Giovinco. Not close to the passing genius of Juninho, but a sharp eye for scoring a goal.
Adam Luszniak
313 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:34:20
One more point on the Gana vs Schneids debate. Look at Kante at Chelsea, he breaks up play all day long and has players around him who can use the ball. Gana breaks things up but Schneiderlin seems incapable of using the ball. If you asked me which one i'd prefer in the team it would be Gana.

Mike Gaynes
314 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:34:30
I've with Jamie and Adam on Gueye. May not have the defensive "vision" of the static Schneids but forces rushed mistakes by closing down so relentlessly. I think he will emerge with the job.
Steve Ferns
315 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:34:46
I don't disagree with your criticisms Adam. I just predict that Silva will flip the triangle and drop Gueye instead of Schneiderlin.

Mike, I don't know how. It was from this game though: Newcastle (h) May 2012 the photo had a time stamp. It was either just before or just after he retired. I thought the game was more like 2014, and I thought my dad retired in 2010. Oh well!

Steve Ferns
316 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:37:41
Mike, this is the fella who used Cambiasso and Carvalho in this role. He likes slow, lumbering holding midfielders. He has the guys who close down further up the pitch. Gueye is not a Silva type player, he will get shut unless Gueye learns how to pass the ball. Silva will not put up with his limited ability. Add in the fact that he's approaching 30, we will surely cash in next summer.
Adam Luszniak
317 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:39:42
Steve, Silva has mentioned Schneiderlin before when talking about his plans so i'm sure he will play a part, I will look on with interest to see if you prediction comes true!

I think there is an element of the two getting in each others way when Schneids and Gana play together, and lord knows many on this forum have called on previous Everton managers to play with only one defensive CM, perhaps as you say Silva will be the man to do it.

In your opinion would Silva play the inverted triangle all the time, or is he likely to adopt a different formation when facing say, Man City away?

Rob Dolby
318 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:40:01
Jay #292 If you are correct in saying that he has to play centrally then all that we have done is get rid of one lightweight in Klassen and replaced him with another.
The balance in the squad and team are no better off.

I am hoping that he can play on the left and add balance similar to Pienaar.

Drinkwater and a newer version of Jags would do before the deadline.

Steve Ferns
319 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:45:07
Adam, he will play different formations every week. The one thing we have yet to see from Silva is how he sets up his teams to attack the opposition. His preparation for the opposition is second to none.

At the moment it is all about Everton. It's about fitness, tactics, positioning, shape, and familiarity. Getting everyone to know their jobs.

Now, we are into the regular season. He will be studying Wolves. He will workout how they will play, he will set us up in a way to exploit the weaknesses that he sees and so he will adapt the formation and tactics for that game.

As for Man City, Silva is bold enough to look for weaknesses in the Man City side and will seek to exploit them too. He rolls the dice and tries to win.

So yes, he will adopt many different formations, and so will utilise different players for different games. Read about when he played arsenal and decided to move the left winger over to the right and doubled up on the fullback at 1-0 down and exploited Arsenal's weak left whilst Wenger watched on scratching his head and doing nothing.

Keith Harrison
320 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:46:42
Fantastic if we get this over the line.
Could someone also point out to the Lyon president and Yerra Mina that he would be guaranteed 8 games against champions league clubs in the Premier league - every year - which is more than Lyon will muster. He will also face far better other teams than in the French league, where most of the protagonists make Morgan Schneiderlien look like Speedy Gonzalez.
Adam Luszniak
321 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:49:05
Interesting stuff Steve! Did he have a formation at Watford which he used more than others? I know he has talked about a 4-3-3 in the press since joining us. I've not seen many of the pre-season games but we looked to be playing a 4-2-3-1 against Valencia?
Steve Ferns
322 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:56:40
Adam he has played a 4-2-3-1 in every game so far. But a standard 4-2-3-1 has forwards wider than Silva does, so they are midfielders. Silva's 4-2-3-1 could be called a 4-2-1-3 as the wingers are really forwards and they play in the channels, with the fullbacks bombing on outside of them.

4-2-3-1 is by far the formation he has used the most. He used a very narrow 4-1-3-2 (4-4-2) mostly at Estoril, then 4-2-3-1 in the final season. He played a proper 4-3-3 at Sporting, with the midfield 3 in a V shape, with Carvalho at the bottom. At Olympiacos. he played a 4-2-3-1 in the league, but Cambiasso often dropped into the back 4 and sprayed passes from there, trying to get them forwards on the counter quicker. However, they played a 4-3-3 when the fast Greek No 10 was missing from the side.

Hull was a variety of formations from the Estoril 4132 but mostly the 4-2-3-1. At Watford he played a back 3 in a 3-4-3, a 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3, 4-4-2, he tried a variety again, but 4-2-3-1 was the one he used most. But as I said above, because it is more 4-2-1-3, which is a 4-3-3 with an inverted V shape, he calls it a 4-3-3 not 4-2-3-1. You'll notice how compact everyone has been in defence. He likes to play very narrow. Which is why we need a static holding midfielder.

Mike Gaynes
323 Posted 06/08/2018 at 23:58:58
Steve, Gueye knows how to pass the ball. He, not N'diaye, was Senegal's primary passer out of the back during the WC games. Their defenders actually looked for him to move it forward. Some occasional long distribution, some short quick stuff, but almost always forward and quite tidy. Surprised the hell out of me.

Don't know if Silva will give him that chance, but it's in his game. At least it was in those three games in Russia.

Drew O'Neall
324 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:00:28
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Sigurdson and Gana in the middle.

As an aside, has anyone explained UK tax to him? I don’t want to see footage of him at John Lennon only for him to do a u-turn like when we signed Muller!

Steve Ferns
325 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:02:09
We'll have to disagree on that Mike. I still thought Gueye couldn't pass in the world cup, he just got more time on the ball. The ball is a hot potato to him, he panics. His passing is worse than mine, and I sincerely mean that. The lad has a lot of exceptional qualities, but he should be ashamed that he can't hit a 40 yard ball to feet.
Adam Luszniak
326 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:03:46
Steve thanks for the insight. I had assumed when I read the news on Bernard that he would provide competition for Sigurdsson in the 10 role. Would be very interested to see these two on the pitch at the same time.

The 4123 with Schneiderlin sat in front of the defence does worry me though, especially with our current crop of CBs. There is so little pace there.

Steve Ferns
327 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:03:58
Drew they always agree take home wages. It's for Everton to pay the tax in these big transfers.
Mark Taylor
328 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:05:05
Steve

You seem to be suggesting that Schneiderlin can not only defend but also pass.

Whenever I've seen him he is indeed in the frame but pretty much always not actually influencing the action. Maybe he is keeping a beautiful 'shape'.

As for passing, the less said about his ability in that regard, the better unless we think passing 10 m sideways is passing.

I'd sooner drop Siggy, not play Bernard, train up Gana or Big Bang to hold better, re-build McCarthy as the bionic man, anything than play Schneiderlin in a role where he is theoretically suited to but in reality, would be hopeless.

Frank Wade
329 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:07:03
Thanks Steve, appreciate all the background on Silva. I agree with your opinion on Gana's lack of discipline, but love his enthusiasm, willingness to work and his ball winning ability. Schneiderlin has the discipline and an element of positional sense, but sadly not the vision to get the ball moving forward quickly. A younger version of Gareth Barry would fit the bill nicely.
Derek Knox
330 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:11:35
Mike G @323, I am with you 100% on the Gana argument, I remember when he first arrived, from Villa, I went to Goodison to see him. I was amazed at his energy, tackling and all round play.

I have only seen one game where Schneiderlin played well, against Man City, where we won 4-0. That's a poor return on what he's getting paid.

I can't wait for the day where we see this parasitic stroller bite the dust!

Steve Ferns
331 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:11:38
Spot on Frank, Gareth Barry would be ideal.

Mark, his passing has been erratic in the extreme. The sad fact is that none of our central midfielders can kick the ball further can 30 yards without bouncing, except for Schneiderlin. Their passing is atrocious. Schniederlin is capable of hitting a 70 yard pass perfectly to feet. Check out his YouTube highlights for confirmation. Sure, he's not shown that for us for 12 months at least, but he keeps getting in Koeman's side, Allardyce's side, and now Silva's side because he is the only passing midfielder we have. Like it or not. And most of us are "not". But Silva, for whatever reason, is keeping him, and he will play. He will play nearly every game when fit. Sorry Mark, but this is what will happen.

DK - notice Gueye didn't play that game? Notice most of Schneiderlin's best performances have come when Gueye was not playing?

Jerome Shields
332 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:18:44
If Brands and Silva can pull this off, things are really looking up. This will be a fantastic addition to midfield. The winds of change are really going through Everton now.
Frank Wade
333 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:25:14
Of course, over the past season, the available outlets for a pass out of defence or out of the pivotal position have been in short supply, so maybe we are all a bit harsh on Monsieur Schneiderlin. I wonder are we missing Ross more than we would have expected, as an outlet in midfield for a pass.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

334 Posted 06/08/2018 at 00:29:49
Mike @ 292.

As I said, Bernard 'disappeared' as far as Brazil is concerned when he left for the Ukraine.

He is no longer mentioned as a possible selection for the national team and I can't recall a single feature on Brazilian TV on him. And they LOVE a success story of their overseas players.

With Atletico Mineiro he played widish midfield, often on the right, from where he would cut inside when approaching the penalty when he would get a shot off with his left foot.

I'm familiar with the player because I used to live in his home city and my first team in Brazil is Cruzeiro - Atletico's big city rivals.

I really don't know how or what position he played in the Ukraine. But for me, based on what I know, he needs to play central midfield.

Lee Paige
335 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:32:36
I heard he was being considered for selection for the World Cup but got a shoulder injury at the end of last season.
David Midgley
336 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:32:48
James, John Hancock. Yes his is a big sprawling
signature . But the most significant thing was he
stepped forward and was the first to sign as they were
commiting an act of revolt against the King and
England.

Steve #322 Always enjoy your posts. However, I am confused. Was he playing a 1234 or 1232 ? 2132 or 3321 ? a 1122 or a 2213 . Where is the inside right?

John Pierce
337 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:41:06
Ferns!

Surely deep down you know Schniederlin is I’ll fitted to Silva’s methods of play.

A player who on numerous chances has blown his audition. He simply is not mobile or nimble enough to help press, because the whole team has too. One of the key reasons Everton have looked as leaky as Delilah’s bucket.

Do not get me wrong the centre halves are in the same boat. I’ve observed our pressing, such as it is, being started by the front four and the rest of the team sitting there. Many of the goals scored against us in pre-season have come from teams beating our press, your basically in from there.

Schniederlin 28 peak years, potentially a leader and bags of game experience, not a jot from him. It’s very much his mental capacity to deal with not being a United player, won’t argue with you on his passing etc.

Energy and synchronization is what’s missibg from the press. He ain’t the answer.

Ed Prytherch
338 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:42:10
Too much thoughtful analysis in these recent posts. What about Bernie the Bolt.
Steve Ferns
339 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:46:03
Haha, sorry David.

Silva plays a compact (narrow) back 4 99% of the time. He prefers a single striker. Whereas the wingers were right in line with the other midfielders in Allardyce's side, Silva pushes them right forward, almost alongside the striker. So you often see a front 3. The two wider forwards have a task to track back and to close down. The midfield 3 is always narrow and compact. The main question is are there 2 defensive midfielders or 1.

I am saying with Bernard's arrival, assuming it happens, then expect Richarlison to keep his left forward slot, and Walcott the Right Forward Slot. Therefore, Bernard either drops Gylfi to the bench or we play one defensive midfielder and an extra attacking midfielder.

To balance having two attacking midfielders, the defensive midfielder needs to be extra disciplined and hold position. The two attacking midfielders are to track back and close down and put tackles in too. Bernard played under Paulo Fonseca and so should be used to this (I only saw the Champions League games). He played Left Wing or no 10 in a 4-2-3-1 under Fonseca. MyY best guess is that he plays off the striker on the left, with Gylfi off the striker and to the right.

Therefore, to offset having an effective front 5, we need an all-out defensive midfielder and so Gueye on his seek and destroy missions is going to be a liability, leaving a big hole and our creaking back four could not cope. Instead expect to see Schneiderlin play there.

I wanted to bring Carvalho in for this reason, but clearly Silva has seen something in Morgan. Let's hope Schneiderlin ups his game fast.


Hey JP, Schneiderlin is one of three players who are not meant to press. The centrebacks and the holding midfielder keep position. The opposition try to pull these players out of position to create space, they need to resist that and hold position.

Dan Davies
340 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:47:53
Gana over Schneiderlin, every game for me. Maybe I'm wrong? Maybe Silva can get a tune out of him?
Frank Wade
341 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:48:57
John #337, I think the point Steve is making is that the defensive midfield man in the Silva set up is not part of the press. He sits and protects the back 4 from attacking midfield opposition running at them and tracking runners in behind.
John Pierce
342 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:51:59
Lads its Bernard and the Genie 🧞‍♀️ for those who know.
David Midgley
343 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:52:29
Steve #339. Check out U -Tube . Abbott and Costello
doing The Navy Math. You'll follow my drift.
What would Bally think ?
Steve Ferns
344 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:56:17
Gary Ablett and Elvis Costello? That’s a new double act on me. I’ll be sure to check them out.
John Pierce
345 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:58:26
Steve, okay if what you say holds veracity then perhaps what I'm observing is those three players who all lack pace creating space as they retreat.

Despite the crap, the press is shaping up. But I cannot have it that Schniederlin can be part of it.

A high, squeezing press requires excellent one-on-one defenders and defensive midfielder. Schniederlin is not that guy or even close to it.

Dan Davies
346 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:03:26
Agreeing with John here. Just can't see Schneiderlin all of a sudden being that cog? Let's be honest he's either a lazy bastard or he just doesn't give a fuck.
Bill Watson
349 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:17:41
dup
Bill Watson
351 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:17:41
dup
Peter Thistle
354 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:18:15
Does Mina know of the 80% tax on high earners in france ? If so, swerve em. Mina Does seem like a mercenary lookin for the best club to make an offer and leaving it till the last second to settle for us. I don't mind that as long as he gives it 100% like the Straq. Energy and enthusiasm make up for a lack of ability.

We love a trier, not a cryier like so many of our recent signings. Sure does look like we will be an attacking side to start out with until the center players from back to front can learn to defend. The makings of a future team. Would restore our faith in EFC after the first good Martinez season. Suggestions for his nickname or chant? Burner, Nursie, Bear, Nardo,

Well ARD, "He comes from Brazil with a crappy name but he's gonna burn defences alive with his game". "We are Brazil and all shall fear now that we've binned off all the money grabbing queers". "Burnie hot! Burnie Shot, scores cracking goals, Opposition lose the plot". Work in progress.

A Richarlison song could be tricky unless we call him Richie...

Jamie Crowley
355 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:22:15
Bill didn’t quite catch that, would you mind repeating?
Steve Ferns
358 Posted 07/08/2018 at 01:44:06
Dan, I don’t understand why Silva doesn’t sign an upgrade on Schneiderlin either. For me, it’s basically the most important position in the team. Everything relies upon it. He sets the tempo with the speed of his passing, and the quality of the attacking with his accuracy, the effectiveness of the press by either making the tackles in the funnel, or slowing the opposition counter attack for others to recover the shape. I thought this guy would be replaced first, but Silva came out in support of him immediately. I don’t get it.

But I do see the profile of what he wants and how Schneiderlin ticks those boxes far more than gueye. And that’s why, if Silva really does think Morgan is his guy, he will play. Let’s hope next summer we identify a world class player to take him out the side.

David Barks
359 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:01:41
Steve,

I think you nailed it with your last sentence, next Summer. It’s an important role but not that easy to fill. This has always been the position that I felt would most likely be filled by a loan signing from a top club, but that usually comes with being done at the last minute. That player has to see that he won’t get game time at his club and that club has to know that they came through preseason without losing anyone to injury.

I think he knows he has a couple of players in they position, whereas he had nobody for the left side of the attack, knew Baines can’t be counted on at LB, and I think he’s made clear his desire for a top CB. This latest Brazilian joining us will only help our attack and make us more exciting, hopefully bringing back the atmosphere to Goodison and taking some of the pressure off our defense.

Maybe we’ll see that central midfielder come in on loan before the end of the week. Maybe next Summer or January. But I can’t honestly say the players we signed weren’t massively needed.

Victor Yu
360 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:19:06
This could be a good move.

But it also means Lookman is likely going to leave.

Ernie Baywood
361 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:19:59
I've no doubt Schneiderlin is a better passer than Gueye but then when it does it ever come to that comparison?

One has limitations and plays within them. The other can do it but doesn't have the balls to give it a go. One is limited, one is a coward. Both end up playing slow, simple, sideways balls for different reasons - but it's the same outcome.

Gueye is the more dynamic. Creates more on the ball by virtue of being willing to carry it at pace and break lines. Does more of a job defensively and in attack by being willing to press the opposition and win the ball.

It's been a no brainer for me even when people were lauding Schneiderlin in his first season. They shouldn't play together as they play exactly the same role - but Gueye offers so much more in that role.

But I can see why a new manager would see Schneiderlin in pre season and think "I can do something with a player of his ability". For the exact same reason that every manager thought it about Mirallas in pre seasons past. Then come about January they see why these players aren't regulars.

Fran Mitchell
362 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:31:59
Victor Yu, why?

Silva came out and said he's our player and that he ain't going anywhere.

It would appear Bernard will play as No 10 or No 8. Lookman is backup/competition for both Richarilson and Walcott.

If Bernard gets in the way of anyone's development, that would be Dowell's.

Victor Yu
363 Posted 07/08/2018 at 02:34:45
I don't think Lookman will be happy as the backup / sub when he can get lots of playing time in Germany. He will force a move.
Jamie Crowley
364 Posted 07/08/2018 at 03:00:58
If we don't get a CB before the window shuts, and even if we do, I hope the fans stay patient.

I see a heck of a lot of 4-3s, 3-2s, with some problematic defending and a desire to score more than the opponent. I think Silva does not, in any way, seemingly neglect the defensive side of the equation.

But I have a feeling the first season under him may have a bit of a "Martinez" feel to it. Not in the possession football or "phenomenal" style, but in the final scores.

We're going to be prone to blowing a lead or two. We need to be very patient in my opinion with Silva and the team.

And Christ above help us if we lose to Wolves. I'll read TW if we do, but it'll be akin to watching the proverbial train wreck.

Ashley Roberts
365 Posted 07/08/2018 at 03:43:42
Tweedle dee or tweedle dum??? I think we all know that neither Gueye or Shneiderlin are good enough for the holding midfield position. Gueye is energetic and covers a lot of ground and tries to tackle anything that moves but doesn't know what to do with the ball once in possession.

Schneiderlin, on the other hand, lumbers around in slow motion with the game passing him by and when in position passes sideways. Maybe Schneiderlin will be better suited to this position with more attacking options going forward for him to hit a more direct pass. I just worry about his defensive duties because I just don't see him having the pace or positional sense to be effective in this role.

Having said all of that, if we land Bernard it should make a huge difference to the style of football we play. This latest signing along with the other two is going to convert me from being a pessimist to the proverbial optimist!!!

Paul Mackay
366 Posted 07/08/2018 at 04:31:12
Let's hope he turns out better than Klaassen. Worrying that some commentators reckon the Premier League will be too quick and physical for him but on a free he's worthy of a punt surely..,
Julian Wait
367 Posted 07/08/2018 at 05:01:50
Reminds me of Hazard. Surprised Chelsea not in for him as Hazard / Courtois might yet go to Real . hopefully after deadline day ;-)
Steven Telford
368 Posted 07/08/2018 at 05:21:46
Given Silva said he wants two players per position, do you think he thought to be Sigurdsson's competition for No 10 Or would he be likely to slot into the same starting 11? Was hoping to see the creative best of Gylfi now that Rooney has moved on.

Anyway, one thing we have lacked under the last two managers is the ability to be unpredictable with a substitution that completely switches the tactics of a game going wrong. Given his stark difference between Sigurdsson's and Bernard's style of play, this may be a nice card to be able to play.

Darren Hind
369 Posted 07/08/2018 at 05:28:11
Steve's right to a degree. If nothing else, Schniederlin does keep his discipline and hold his position and Gana does go hunting the ball, but I'm with Jamie C on this.

It's only because Gana knows Schneiderlin is acting as an insurance policy that he feels he not only can but must hunt the ball. I'm not a great fan of either; both are far too happy to sit down when faced with a Coutinho type who will want to ghost past them.

We need an upgrade, but we have more pressing issues elsewhere on the park, so, for now, at least, it has to be Gana for me. Schniederlin can pass a ball when we are comfortable and he has the time, but that won't happen often and when under pressure his distribution is worse than Gana's, I think its a lesser ask to get Gana to hold his position, than to get Schnieds to improve his passing under pressure.

Unfortunately, Schniederlin has offered very little throughout the past 15 months. Put simply, he doesn't deserve a starting place

Good to see you back, Steve.

Darren Hind
370 Posted 07/08/2018 at 05:50:18
You never really know whether a player will be suited to the premiership until they actually get here, many said people like Modric and Coutinho would be too lightweight, but both adapted well and were able to shine.

Difficult to assess Bernard, I've seen him play a few times, but he was playing for a guy who expected his players to carry out his instructions to the letter. I would like to see him play with a little more freedom. Think Steven Pienaar as opposed to Steven Gerrard, He is intelligent, protects the ball well and draws fouls in dangerous areas.

Free, experienced and wanted by other top clubs. Whats not to like ?

Steve Brown
371 Posted 07/08/2018 at 06:43:36
Schneiderlin does not protect the back four, he doesn't support the press, he doesn't pass well (under pressure or otherwise) and he does not initiate attacks from that holding position. Even on those rare occasions when we are dominant and he can push up field he creates nothing (zero assists and zero goals last season). If we put Bernard in midfield alongside Sigurdsson with only one holding CDM, then the ability to press, tackle and screen the back four becomes the priority. In that case, as Darren says I would choose Gana.
Erik Dols
372 Posted 07/08/2018 at 06:52:18
I woke up this night around 2:30 and couldn't fall asleep anymore. At a certain point I grabbed my phone and started browsing. I read every single comment on this thread and more than once I had to contain my laugh because I didn't want to wake the missus. Some great stuff in here lads!

One thing that surprised me is that no one mentioned the fact that James Marshalls' granddad once was saved from drowning by our new signing!

Julian Wait
373 Posted 07/08/2018 at 06:55:44
Warts and all - mostly good stuff . seems skillful, quick-ish, and perhaps a bit lightweight but prepared to put a shift in . Link
Steve Brown
374 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:14:31
Looks like Barcelona have held Mina back to try to use as a makeweight for a bid for Pogba. That is dead in the water as Manure rejected outright and are targeting Alderweireld or Maguire. So you never know.
Karl Jones
375 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:22:33
What I don't understand is, if he has the choice of Chelsea, AC Milan and Spurs etc, why he would choose Everton?

In this day and age when every player is like a mini business, coming to a club with a modern-day record like Everton from a club where he has been used to winning cups and leagues... and having the choice of Champions League, doesn't make any sense...Maybe he has heard Usmanov is going to be bankrolling Everton.

Colin Glassar
377 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:30:50
Wages Karl, wages. At the end of the day, the majority of players are only interested in who pays the most. That's why you have players, in their prime, playing in places like China, the Emirates and even Chechnya.

Mina sounds like he wants a Champions League club but if Lyons can't pay him what we are offering he'll end up with us after declaring himself a lifelong Blue.

Mark Tanton
378 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:35:07
If we have got him, I think it’s largely down to SIlva’s personal persuasion and the support of the board.
Andy Osborne
379 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:35:17
Interesting, I have just read on the BBC website that Kroenke has made an offer to buy Arsenal. Let's see if Usmanov accepts and then see what he does next.
Philip Bunting
380 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:37:42
Could Usmonov be on his way? This season is getting better by the minute COYB
Colin Glassar
381 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:41:11
Kroenke willing to pay almost £2bn to buy everyone’s shares, including Usmanov. It’s happening folks. Bernard’s Agent is a big mate of Usmanov.
Mark Tanton
382 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:47:06
Very interesting Colin.
Tony Everan
383 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:49:38
Usmanov about to sell to Kroenke and buy into Everton?

Maybe about to join his good friend Mr Moshiri on the most exciting project in world football.

Very exciting times if it comes together, the stars are aligning for Everton Football Club.

Andy Osborne
384 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:51:39
Colin, I am pretty sure Kroenke has tried this before, a few years ago, and Usmanov rejected the offer. But that was when he thought he still had a chance of taking full control. After reading an article a few weeks ago about Usmanov thinking about selling up, maybe it will be different this time. I hope so.
Chris Leyland
385 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:51:56
The report on Sky news website says that Kronke has received an ‘irrevocable undertaking’ from Usmanov to sell him his shares.
tony byrne
386 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:52:14
"Stan Kroenke makes £550m offer for Alisher Usmanov's share of Arsenal to take complete control of club valued at £1.8bn". Daily Mail headline.

This could turn out to be a very interesting day. Mr Usmanov will be a very welcome addition to our club!

Peter Warren
387 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:53:18
Andy it is different as the Russian has agreed to sell his shares. It seems certain Usmanov is on his way out. What’s not certain is if he wishes to join his good friend at Everton.

A very interesting close to the window

Dermot Byrne
388 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:53:47
Just heard that on BBC Radio re Kroenke. Would be so funny watch us go through the same changes as Man City fans.

My mate has supported City for years and when they became mega- rich it was so bizarre as he went through a period of resistance and wanted his old club back.

I think if it happened TW would become like that Python sketch.

"Think you had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife before going to Goodison."

Andrew Ellams
389 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:54:02
This signing is now crying out for Drinkwater to come in and complete the midfield. Centre back seems to be the problem position across the PL this season.
Gary Russell
390 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:54:21
Cue excitement!

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45094538

Thomas Lennon
391 Posted 07/08/2018 at 07:59:10
He's coming Gary...
Ian Burns
392 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:08:35
I can see the back 4 now - Seamus; Jags; Usmanov; Digne.

Dermot Byrne
393 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:17:28
Lol Ian 392.

"На моей голове"

Russian for "on me 'ed"

Gavin Johnson
394 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:18:52
Off football matters on the field. A deal is in place for Usmanov to sell his Arsenal shares to Kroenke. Has to be great news for us!! Great time for Bill to retire.
Colin Glassar
395 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:23:05
I don’t think Usmanov can sell his shares today and buy into us tomorrow, can he? Isn’t there a Grace Period between leaving one club and buying another? Hope I’m wrong.
Erik Dols
396 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:25:07
Colin, never heard of it. But of course with deals of this size a lot of legal work is involved, I don't expect Usmanov to pour in money this transfer window. He could help with financing the new stadium and of course the transfer windows after this one.

But perhaps we are getting ahead of ourselves. Wait and see...

Keith Harrison
397 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:25:19
Usmanov is coming, Usmanov is coming.

Cue Coca-Cola xmas trucks, lit up in blue leds.

What can possibly go wrong?🤔🤔🤔🤔

Keith Harrison
398 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:26:40
Colin, I used to go out with her. Bit of a lass was Grace Period mate. 😉😉😉😉
Andrew Ellams
399 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:30:41
Didn't Usmanov declare an interest in AC Milan a while back? I wouldn't get too excited about him coming to Everton. Probably not the best time to be jumping into bed with an associate of Putin.
Drew O'Neall
400 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:31:21
It’s on now.. Kroenke buying out Usmanov Link
Ray Robinson
401 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:41:31
Apologies if someone has referenced this before in the thread but if he scores with a powerful drive, will he become known as "Bernie the Bolt"? Only those about 60 plus will understand this.
James Marshall
402 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:44:02
Chelsea have lodged a late bid to sign Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Bernard, but the Brazilian is on his way to Everton and is expected on Merseyside for a medical in the next 48-hours (Sky Sports)

Even if we don't sign him, he's given us more excitement on this thread alone than most of our squad has over the last year.

Rob Halligan
403 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:45:14
Ray, if / when we sign him, will the headline be Berni's Inn?

Another for those over a certain age.

Erik Dols
404 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:47:13
Ray #401 absolutely no disrespect as I can imagine that you don't want to read all 400 comments but as I couldn't sleep last night I read every comment and Bernie the Bolt was mentioned more than once. If you have time on your hands, read all the comments, some are pure comedy gold.
Rob Halligan
405 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:49:17
James, I'm sure that Chelsea bid was before we stepped in? Can't keep up with all this. 😕😕😕
Victor Yu
406 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:53:29
If we can beat Chelsea to sign a quality player then it would be rather incredible.

But you just never know. Even when a player is in the building he may end up walking away.

Danny Baily
407 Posted 07/08/2018 at 08:55:46
Can he play CB??
Antony Matthews
408 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:04:58
Kronor bid accepted by Usmanov!
Les Green
409 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:05:07
Re the Usmanov inklings . if he does sell, and is considering coming to us, then it might go some way to explain the recent utterances from Moshiri, when (in relation to how much was being spent on Richarlison) he said something to the effect of "Everton fans need to stop worrying about how much we are spending"
Geoff Lambert
410 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:08:35
Colin 395

I would think this has been going on behind the scenes for some time, hopefully everything is in place for him to step in today and spend 300 million in the next 2 days...

We can dream can't we?

Barry McNally
411 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:12:51
Digne has told Messi what a great club it is!
Brent Stephens
412 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:15:28
Worked at Berni’s Inn in Liverpool, Rob. Exchange street east. Late 60’s. The steaks were lovely. I had steak or Dover sole every day.
Mal van Schaick
413 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:16:05
Just remembered, had a pint of Bernard in Prague. Short, stout, with a kick.
Dave Abrahams
414 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:23:39
Has anyone mentioned George Bernard Shaw ?
James Marshall
415 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:24:17
There's obviously no way of knowing for certain, but Usmanov really could stick 2 fingers up at Kroenke by getting heavily involved at Everton couldn't he?

I know I'm massively simplifying things saying that but a boy can dream can't he? We could build a gigantic mega-stadium for 100,000 people with his very own steel.

Rob Halligan
416 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:26:31
I remember a Berni's Inn down by the pier head, Brent. There was a hamburger stall there, but can't remember if it was incorporated into Berni's or seperate? Used to go there for a burger in the late 70's early 80's after being in town for a few on a Sunday night. Sure there was also a "drop in" police station next door as well?
Geoff Lambert
417 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:27:07
James stop building my hopes up.
Knowing our luck he will buy the redshite.
Dermot Byrne
418 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:27:09
Ah Brent. That was were my Dad would take me for big treat. The one we went to was downstairs in Exchange Flags I think.

Best steaks I can remember !


Colin Glassar
419 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:28:39
Nothing to do with this thread but, does the BBC’s obsession with everything Gerrard mean they, Rangers, will now be included on motd?

They, the Beeb, are giving him and his shitty team more coverage than 80% of the prem teams.

Dave Abrahams
420 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:28:57
Brent (412), Brent you wasn't the scruffy kid who worked in the kitchen preparing the food was you? that's when I stopped drinking and eating in there.
Eric Paul
421 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:34:22
Dave
George Shaw scored the goal of the season for us a couple of years ago
Don Alexander
422 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:36:13
Dave (#414), didn't he once say, "Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance."

Fits TW to a tee. Ha-ha!

Kev Jones
423 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:40:42
Great to see M&M getting the jigsaw together with a creative midfielder. Its unusual to see such a happy thread and some great blasts from the past especially the johnny seven (I kept losing those small plastic bullets). A shame about the uncreative, casually thrown in 60’s ‘ard knock macho man homophobia from Pete #354.
Sam Hoare
424 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:43:20
If this goes through then i'm hoping that he might be the player that we have needed for quite a while. The player we should have bought instead of Sigurdsson, whose prowess from set pieces masks his lack of top level creativity from open play. Bernard could possibly be our Eriksen, our David Silva, our Hazard; that special player with vision and agility and great touch who can really knit things together in the final third and bring the best out of the players around him.

Fingers crossed.

Just need a defence now!

Stewart Lowe
425 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:44:05
Williams, Mirallas gone, possibly adding Bernard and news of the Usmanov situation at Arsenal, could this get any better for Evertonians ☺☺
Ash Moore
426 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:47:17
@Stewart #425

"could this get any better for Evertonians?"

Have you watched any of our pre-season games?

Paul Bernard
427 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:50:13
What is wrong with the name Bernard you gang of haters!

Bernard isn't unfashionable, its only given to living legends.

Watch your step TW ;)

Jakub Kollar
428 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:52:10
I just hope that TW will be the same happy place on Saturday night, too.
Paul Mackay
429 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:52:36
410 Geoff. It’s a great thought but remember FFP rules would prevent us spending those sort of sums even if he did come to us at some point.
Rob Dolby
430 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:55:05
I disagree that the holding centre mid is the most important player in any formation.
Football is a pretty straight forward game. The guy who puts the ball in the net is by far the most important position on the pitch.
Lukaku situation proved that.
Brent Stephens
431 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:56:03
Paul #427 I bet you pronounce your surname with a stress on the last syllable!

Toff! I’ll still think of you as “Posh Bernard” with a stress on the first syllable!

Brent Stephens
432 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:59:07
Dave #420 as I remember it you stopped going there because you were thrown out!
Steve Brown
433 Posted 07/08/2018 at 09:59:31
Always thought that 51% had Usmanov's name on it. Why else would Moshiri not have taken the small step to gaining overall control?

It would be worth it just to see the look on the red shite fans' faces when they come to terms with the fact that they have become the small club in the city.

Colin Glassar
434 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:03:03
NYT financial journo, Tariq Panja, tweeting this morning that Usmanov is now free to invest in EFC. Yikes!
Brent Stephens
435 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:05:21
Dermot downstairs it was. Entrance at an angle as I remember it. Ballsed up one night. Served the wrong drinks to family who spoke really posh (in Berni’s!). and the refilled the soda bottle with warm water! By mistake, honest. Actually in those days Berni’s was quite smart.

Used to be another guy who served there, Robert. As camp as Tawd Vale or a scout jamboree.

Tony Everan
436 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:12:41
Mina excused from training and travelling to sign for Everton . Or Lyon ?

The signing of the Bernard may have helped Mina make his mind up. He can see we are a team that is going places now and he can be an integral part of that.

It would be an amazing 48hrs for the club.

And that’s without the game changing possibility of Alisher Usmanov joining Farhad and getting involved with the project.

Keep your hats on though, none of the above is real yet!

Rob Halligan
437 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:16:11
Middlesbrough bid for Bolasie.
James Flynn
438 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:18:54
Usmanov is going to swap being a minority owner of a club he's a supporter of to being a minority owner of a Club he doesn't give a shit about?

And, as a minority owner, have to follow the lead of a guy he ordered around for 20 years?

I say we stick with the guy we got.

Darren Murphy
439 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:23:17
Hopefully this one,Two Centre backs please and the other lad Usmanov will do me this window.
James Marshall
440 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:23:45
Don't worry about FFP, it's means bugger all. Look at the money spent by PSG, City etc, there are plenty of ways around FFP and any penalties from UEFA/FIFA are a drop in the ocean anyway.

Naming rights etc are simple ways of siphoning massive amounts of money into the club.

Kieran Fitzgerald
441 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:24:04
Burnley and Palace also interested in Bolaise. 15m price tag apparently. Good. Enough interest to see us get rid.
Joe O'Brien
442 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:26:37
James @438..I think he'll be the majority shareholder with us.. there's 51% to be bought up. I'm all for this.
Benjamin Dyke
443 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:29:40
Things are looking up lads! After the dreadful season we all just suffered, the world's biggest anti-climax after last summer's spending, and a tough pre-season on the pitch, we are starting to seem like we may just become something this year again - a team with an identity - it will go wrong some days, for sure, but to even feel like we're on our way to something is great!
We've got rid of Mirallas, Williams, Robles, Rooney, Klaasen etc and maybe even Bolasie will go
We've got in Digne, Richarlison and are hopefully getting in Bernard a couple of CBs and a striker (Welbeck anyone?)
A huge well done to Brands and Silva so far - its looking like they're gonna achieve a bigger clear out than we hoped and get in a few gems and transform our playing style
Tony Everan
444 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:32:49
Bernard Coup ?

Are you sure we are not signing a Yorkshire Barrel maker ?

“Ay-up young Bernard, is that barrel finished for the Arkwright order”

Nitesh Kanchan
445 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:32:59
I have no idea about this guy. Can anybody tell me how good he is now? Because the only time I saw him was in that game against Germany, where the Brazilian player were running like headless chickens including him. I hope he is better than that though. But I am more interested in the news about the centre-back coming in. Our whole season is dependent on that at the moment.

I even have hopes to break into top 6 if we get that no-nonsense guy at the back, considering the situations at the 4 of the big 6 clubs. Only City and Liverpool are at different level. Man Utd are struggling and Mourinho is moaning about it. Chelsea are depending on Morata to get them goals with future of Willian, Hazard and Courtois out of their control. Spurs are playing in new stadium and Arsenal have Europa to deal with it. I believe 2 of these teams will fall apart.

Gordon Crawford
446 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:35:55
Bernard would be a great addition. But there are rumours coming out of London that Chelsea are making an attempt to hijack the offer. Probably media nonsense though.
I also don’t think Usmanov will take over at Everton. I just can’t see him being second in command to Moshiri.
Dave Abrahams
447 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:40:54
Brent (432), not guilty, one of my mates worked on the door there, as you say Bernies was quite posh so how you got a job there is amazing.
Steve Ferns
448 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:43:43
Gordon, let’s hope Bernard is locked in.

Usmanov wouldn’t come in as Moshiri’s second, he’d take control. Remember, the paradise papers purport to show Usmanov gave Moshiri the money to buy arsenal and then he sold those shares and bought Everton. Panorama was implying that Moshiri is spending Usmanov’s money. So if it’s all true, Usmanov can come out of the shadows and take full control of Everton.

Bill Watson
449 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Bill Watson
450 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Unless Moshiri sells some of his own shares he will remain the majority shareholder @ 49.9% as around 5% of shareholders have been 'lost'. He cannot be outvoted.

Why would anyone want to invest £Ms and not have a controlling interest?

Bill Watson
451 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Unless Moshiri sells some of his own shares he will remain the majority shareholder @ 49.9% as around 5% of shareholders have been 'lost'. He cannot be outvoted.

Why would anyone want to invest £Ms and not have a controlling interest?

Bill Watson
452 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Unless Moshiri sells some of his own shares he will remain the majority shareholder @ 49.9% as around 5% of shareholders have been 'lost'. He cannot be outvoted.

Why would anyone want to invest £Ms and not have a controlling interest?

Bill Watson
453 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:46:09
Unless Moshiri sells some of his own shares he will remain the majority shareholder @ 49.9% as around 5% of shareholders have been 'lost'. He cannot be outvoted.

Why would anyone want to invest £Ms and not have a controlling interest?

Steve Brown
454 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:48:10
Relaxed about having a Bernard play for us. We had a Trevor who has pretty decent!
Bill Watson
455 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:48:16
Sorry, again, guys. Obviously a fault somewhere on my laptop.
Joe O'Brien
456 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:48:52
Hope you and you're family are holding it together with your dads illness Steve mate. It looks like we're about the same age. Grew up fighting relegation.. Hopefully the tides are turning for us.
Tony Everan
457 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:53:27
Bill#455

I have had this problem, it’s quite technical, I think there maybe a rice crispie trapped under your return button.

Eric Myles
458 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:53:33
I see Usmanov has sold his Arsenal shares to Kroenke.

Cue the hope that he'll be backing his mate at Everton with the funds.

Gary Russell
459 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:56:33
I've been waiting to see the Mirallas confirmation on here. Didn't see anything, but it's done and dusted. Hope he gives some effort or he might be back like last season when his Grecian loan was cut short.
Eric Myles
460 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:59:17
Oh, I see the wishful thinking had already started.
Bill Watson
461 Posted 07/08/2018 at 10:59:20
Tony # 457

It's the second time it's happened on this thread!

The odd thing is the apology just posts the once.

(This post is from my phone).

Derek Knox
462 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:11:38
Bill 449-453, have you bought the early edition of the Echo?
John Raftery
463 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:12:08
If he is at all interested in buying into our club, Usmanov will surely take full control. Whether or not that will be a good thing in the long term remains to be seen but with his £20b wealth we would enter the rich league. The new stadium would be secured and transfer fees will cease to be an issue.
Brent Stephens
464 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:18:23
Bill #461 "The odd thing is the apology just posts the once".

Not much of an apology, then, Bill!

Dave #447 - I'm watching you, lad!

Chris Corn
465 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:44:56
Bill Watson Usmanov and Moshiri are friends and business partners . It's all conjecture anyway and knowing our luck will not happen. However I would wager he would have a presence on the board, which he doesn't enjoy at Arsenal, and a massive say in how things are done.
Dave Williams
466 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:45:37
Quite possibly if Usmanov comes in they will place the entire joint shareholding into a company as they did with the Arsenal shares and each would have 50% of that company's shares thus jointly controlling EFC. It could be of course that this was planned from the start. Almost too scared to hope that this and Bernard will happen but what a marvellous thread this is. I cant recall such unbridled joy on this site in years with everyone getting along so well rather than tearing strips off each other.
Very invigorating and lets just hope it all comes off, though Usmanov would just be the icing on a very exciting transfer window.
Rock on M and M!
Jonathan Tasker
467 Posted 07/08/2018 at 11:55:01
Whilst Kenwright is still at Everton, nothing, absolutely nothing, changes
By the way, there's no new ground
James Marshall
468 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:00:30
Usmanov is already an investor in Everton via USM Finch Farm. Moshiri owns 10% of the shares in USM, Usmanov owns 60% and some bloke called Vladmir Skoch is the only other 'major shareholder' in USM.

If you think Usmanov isn't already involved at Everton, I would suggest that was wide of the mark, even if oddly under the radar. It's a bit of an open secret if you like.

I'm looking forward to the day we have USM emblazoned across the front of our Champions League winning jerseys.

Chris Corn
469 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:00:47
Why's that then Jonathan? Why does Moshiri escape any accountability when it's been pointed out he cannot be outvoted as the majority shareholder? There will be people who lament Kenwright leaving just because they will have nothing to blame him for anymore.
James Marshall
470 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:02:12
Oh and another thing just struck me - the recent dialoge from the council and Everton about exploring other options for stadium funding - yeah, I'm thinking it too..
Joe O'Brien
471 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:03:55
He's due to step down this month Jonathan.. the news of funding for the new stadium is also due to be announced in the next 2 months.. all points to Ushmanov coming on board. Those kopites are not going to like this at all.
Erik Dols
472 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:05:40
James #470: the council saved your granddad from drowning???
James Marshall
473 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:14:35
Erik, you're confusing the city council with Bernard Cribbins. It's a common mistake - you're not the first and you won't be the last.
Rob Halligan
474 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:18:55
Jonathan, 467. We know there's no new stadium cos it hasn't been built yet.
Paul Mackay
475 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:21:10
Just read the transfer window rules (I know, it's been painful waiting for Everton to announce their next signing).

Anyway, I knew that we could still sell players to overseas clubs up until 31st August but I didn't know we can still sign players from any club on loan right up until the end of August. So, this week is only the window for permanent incomimgs and there is nothing stopping us from bringing players in on loan with a future option to buy agreed.

Derek Knox
476 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:24:01
James @473, thanks that explains a lot, I have been sending my Council Tax to Bernard Cribbins for some time now, and the Council keep saying I haven't paid it!
Mike Moore
477 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:28:21
Hope this just online "newspaper " talk, Chelsea to hijack Everton's transfer of Bernard. We could end up with Barkley back on loan!!
James Marshall
478 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:28:36
Derek - Cribbins is absolutely loaded. This explains everything.
Craig Walker
479 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:37:53
Let's hope we don't get Müllered again.
Chris Corn
480 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:38:39
This is Everton, Mike (#477) so anything's possible. I do find that as the deadline approaches, all media outlets have to try and outdo each other and find a different angle for each transfer story as can be seen for the Mina saga.

Apparently they've outbid us for Bernard but he's on a free transfer so how does that work?

James Marshall
481 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:44:59
26th July: Chelsea on the verge of signing Bernard on a free.

3rd Aug: West Ham beat Chelsea to signing of Bernard.

6th Aug: Everton clinch deal to sign free agent, Bernard.

Welcome to modern day journalism and the transfer market.

Keith Harrison
482 Posted 07/08/2018 at 12:55:46
James, was your grandad the official council fisherman? I remember reading of one pulled under by a huge pike before being rescued by uncle Bulgaria.
Alex Mullan
483 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:00:36
I'm sick of this window. It's a fucking soap opera for the benefit of the media and it gets more ridiculous every season. Why can we never just sign someone in a tidy, simple way?
Andrew Clare
484 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:02:09
When is Bernard having his medical? Does anyone know? Beginning to be concerned about this one now.

This is such an important window for us. A few good signings and top six – no more mid-table.

Colin Glassar
485 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:04:07
Arriving today Andrew, according to reports. Should be showing his kit tomorrow on the OS. Fingers crossed.
Keith Harrison
486 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:09:15
Has your insider been ousted from the star chamber, Colin?
Your info used to be spot on, but you seem to be grasping like us mortals nowadays. Mind you, better to announce surprises than give the game away too early and be gazumped.
Andrew Clare
487 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:12:07
Thanks for the info Colin. Still feel apprehensive.
Jamie Crowley
488 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:23:38
Just woke up in America and popped on TW to hopefully see a big pic of Bernard holding the scarf over his head at Goodison.

Grrrrrrrr.

If he goes to Chelsea in the end I'll be so disappointed.

Mina off to somewhere today too, hopefully us?

And Usmanov might dump his millions into Everton?

That's your Everton Daily. Nothing concrete, lot of speculation.

Can we please hurry this along and start the season! All this soap-opera bullshit is killing me.

David Barks
489 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:31:04
Before last night when it broke they Bernard was signing for Everton, how many of you had even heard of him. Now, because the deal isn’t completed by the morning, it’s typical Everton dragging their feet? It hasn’t even been 24 hour hours, he wasn’t in England. Unfortunately we still use planes and not teleport, sorry.
John Keating
490 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:35:04
Think we've missed a no brainer with young John McGinn looking like he's off to Villa
Jamie Crowley
491 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:37:25
David -

It's the fear of losing what looks like one hell of a playmaker - something we've needed since Arteta left - that creates the impatience.

For me it's not Everton dragging their feet, it's the desire to see the deal done and dusted before we lose him to some other predator.

Michael Lynch
492 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:40:44
I'm seriously worried about Bernard Cribbins passing his medical to be honest. He turns 90 in December and what with his work for the council and being a part-time lifeguard, I'm concerned he might be over-extending himself.

Rob Halligan
493 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:43:54
According to SSN he's not due to arrive for a medical until tomorrow. It could be Thursday before it's confirmed he's signed for us.
Jamie Crowley
494 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:45:57
TY Rob! Saved another letdown / impatience-ridden start to my day tomorrow.
Rob Halligan
495 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:47:09
It's rumoured that Chelsea are interested in Fekir. Hopefully they go for him and not Bernard, thus leaving Bernard to join us and also scupper Fekir going to the RS.
James Marshall
496 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:49:43
Michael@494

You've raised some very important points there that people need to take into consideration.

If he does pass his medical short of his 90th birthday, Shneids is still going to be the slowest player in the squad by a stretch.

Kristian Boyce
497 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:51:55
With all this excitement of an Everton transfer window, I'm going down to a Berni Inn to celebrate/drown my sorrows.
Lee Paige
498 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:52:39
I think we need to get over this because I don’t think it’s going to happen.
James Marshall
499 Posted 07/08/2018 at 13:57:00
I think this is going to happen.

So there.

Brent Stephens
500 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:02:03
Lee, why don't you think it's going to happen?

Just like the Richarlson signing didn't happen?

Michael Lynch
501 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:02:43
I'm with Lee on this. We're going to wake up after the weekend and find out its all been a dream, and we've signed Bernard Sumner from New Order. Now that will be a Blue Monday.
Dermot Byrne
502 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:04:34
James M #501. Based on no research, knowledge of the player, a kiddy excitement about Brazil and the deep worry that someone may accuse me of adding nothing to the "debate", I totally agree with your wise post!
James Marshall
503 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:05:53
Over 500 posts based mainly on the fact that his name is Bernard.

Best thread ever on TW.

James Hughes
504 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:06:50
What Dermot said :)

So there too

Lee Paige
505 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:07:12
Brent, no I believed the Richarlison signing was going to happen, this different. I will happily be wrong though.
Tom Bowers
506 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:11:31
Ahhh, the joys of the Summer break and all the rumors to ponder.

The Media keep us all guessing with their mostly fake news which is in keeping with the Trump era.

However, Bernard seems like a go subject to a good medical and perhaps a central defender may also be a day away.

The problem with many clubs doing multiple signings during the window is having them integrated and some take longer than others.

Wolves have a slew of new (mostly Portuguese) imports and just perhaps they may not all be on the same page for the Everton game.

Some players may start out on the bench and be introduced slowly over the first few games.

Lee Paige
507 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:24:34
Tom, lol, I hate to break it to you but fake news was around long before trump, especially in the transfer window.
Brent Stephens
508 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:29:25
Lee, why did you think the Richarlson move was going to happen? And why do you think this one isn't? I wish I knew!
Brent Stephens
509 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:32:34
Michael #510 "Usmanov spokesman man states Ustinov not going to invest in Everton and has no visa or residency problems".

Peter Ustinov was one of my favourites, very funny - but a crap footballer.

Derek Knox
510 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:35:52
Michael @510, you don't surprise me in the slightest there, Ustinov died over 14 years ago!
Michael Lynch
511 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:36:46
Bernard Cribbins AND Peter Ustinov!

We're deffo going to win the lot this season

Brent Stephens
512 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:37:14
"Ustinov died over 14 years ago!"

But his shirt fits him better now.

James Marshall
513 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:37:31
My Grandad died 14 years ago - it didn't sop him playing an important role in this thread, Derek.
Len Hawkins
514 Posted 07/08/2018 at 14:38:20
The doctor has only just got back to Australia after carrying out the Richarlison medical it'll be Thursday before he gets here and if they lose his stethoscope on the flight that'll be coytons as they say in New York.
James Marshall
515 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:01:57
Why on earth are we using Australian flying doctors to carry out our medicals? No wonder it takes so bloody long for Everton to seal a transfer.
Andy Williams
516 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:03:16
Chelsea look to be signing Kovacic and having talks with Fekir - not a peep re The Saint.
Dale Rose
517 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:06:10
A brilliant thread indeed, Bernards, Johnny 7s and Brazilians.
Rob Halligan
518 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:08:01
Andy, didn't know we were linked to Roger Moore?? 😂😂
Tony Sullivan
519 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:11:13
Michael @494

He also does a lot of work on CBeebies, along with his dog Salty. He tells lots of tall stories, he would be great for TW!

James Marshall
520 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:12:29
Brighton have just signed some bloke called Billy Arce, and now Roger Moore has entered the frame.

You couldn't make it up.

Mike Gaynes
521 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:12:38
I'm going to take my laptop into the john with me and re-read this entire thread.
Kevin Jones
522 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:14:38
Just woke up in work and tuned in. Not read through all the posts but from the gist of things, we're signing Bernard Cribbins Grandad who works for the council collecting taxis and once saved Cliff Marshall from drowning in the Orinoco River Just outside Tobermory Near Bulgaria whilst wearing Wellington Boots

Well as Madam Cholet would say "Sacrebleu" which loosely translated into Wombleese is, "fuck me sideways".

Now, how's Peter Ustinov involved again?

Rob Halligan
523 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:14:42
Is Billy Arce any relation to Libe Arce?
Soren Moyer
524 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:16:03
James Marshall @522, Brilliant!
Brent Stephens
525 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:16:10
James #522 "Brighton have just signed some bloke called Billy Arce".

Your having a laugh, surely? Well, his mother thinks so - she's reported as saying "signed for Brighton, my Arce".

James Marshall
526 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:19:17
Brent, please don't call me Shirley.
Rob Halligan
527 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:20:22
Forget Libe Arce. I spelt it wrong.😕😕😕
Rob Halligan
528 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:23:59
Brent, message from Keith Harrison.

He says to tell you that Ustinov was a brilliant athlete, and have you never seen Blackbeard's ghost? 😬😬😬

Iain Thomson
529 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:34:59
Read whole thread... missed mandatory management meeting... bollocks.

Derek Knox
530 Posted 07/08/2018 at 15:39:51
Rob @ 520, yes Simon Templar, we have even shown interest in the Knights Templar, it's vibrant times at Everton until the window shuts.
Lordy Hughes
531 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:21:54
Ah . I can’t take the suspense. No signs of him arriving at Finch Farm or even at Liverpool Airport. Give me something people!!!! When the feck is this medical! 🤣🤣🤣
Brian Williams
532 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:30:29
Lordy. I've literally just spoken to him. He was in front of me in the queue in Maccies on County Road.
I asked him if he's signed yet and he said "efefefeffffefff Mr Kenwright la!"
Mike Gaynes
533 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:31:29
Rob, you're on a roll today.
Martin Berry
534 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:34:59
Lets hope when he signs ? that he is as good as they say, he is only a little chap about 5'4", so he made need a little adjustment with the Prem physicality, then hopefully we can call him St Bernard.
Ray Said
535 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:52:16
Just picking this thread up again from last nights excitement-have we signed Johnny Seven yet?
Lordy Hughes
536 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:54:00
Cheers Brian #532. That’s as authoritative as anything on SportsWitness! Or indeed countless other sites via Newsnow. I’m all relaxed now. 🤣🤣🤣
Amit Vithlani
537 Posted 07/08/2018 at 16:55:04
Martin did you just say St Bernard's little chap was 5'4"? Goodness.
Paul Kossoff
538 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:03:23
This in The Guardian an hour ago:

"Bernard remains Everton-bound, with the Brazil international expected to sign on a free transfer having let his contract expire at Shakhtar Donetsk last season, but his medical is not expected until Wednesday now. It had been initially pencilled in for today after Everton moved ahead of West Ham United, Chelsea, Milan and others in the race for the winger. Bernard will also need a work permit to complete his move to the Premier League.

Central defence remains the priority for Marco Silva and director of football Marcel Brands – as it appears to be for a host of Premier League clubs – but the long-standing pursuit of Yerry Mina, Jamaal Lascelles and others remains “on-going” with only two days remaining of the window."

Fingers crossed.

Derek Taylor
539 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:04:17
Re Brighton's recent signing Billy Arce; many moons ago Villa signed a Columbrian called Oscar Arce. Would you believe it, his brother was Hector Fullone !
Andy Williams
540 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:11:31
Wow! TW is all giddy whatever next.
Matthew Williams
541 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:12:43
How many posts!

I've never seen him play like... and it seems today the more tatts you have, the poorer the player!

Dermot Byrne
542 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:18:55
I hate to put a dampener on potentially good news but notice Shrewsbury beat us to center back Luke Waterfall. Something to pour over?
Fran Mitchell
543 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:23:26
From The Guardian:

"Bernard's medical at Everton has been pushed back to Wednesday, and he still requires a work permit."

Hopefully there will be no hick-ups. I wonder how his fitness is. Hopefully he hasn't spent the last month doing bbq's and drinking poor quality beer.

Anyone any idea on where he has been training?

I guess he'll be a substitute for the first month or two while he adapts and regains fitness.

Derek Knox
544 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:27:53
Dermot @542, that could bring a tear to a cataract, that news.

Newsnow, (I know), are reporting that Medical is underway, and an announcement will be made shortly, we are all like expectant fathers in the room adjoining the Maternity Suite.

Chris Watts
545 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:31:13
So it's gone from deal sorted, medical tomorrow to... all very quiet and medical some time later in the week

Is he hitchhiking over for the Ukraine?

Something doesn't seem right about this one. Plus Mina is clearly not coming. So 2 days left to deadline and were back to Morgan, Keane and jags in the starting 11.

Who'd want to be an Everton fan?

Neil Copeland
546 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:41:09
Fran 543, I think St Bernard has been spending his time saving lost souls in the Swiss Alps.
Rob Halligan
547 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:41:21
Derek, just looked at that. Where and how exactly do they get their information from?

I remember when the shite signed Fabinho. It was totally out of the blue, so maybe this could be done and duster today after all?

Jamie Crowley
548 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:41:38
James back @ or around 500 -

This is not the best thread ever on TW.

Kev Johnson playing up top for Everton will, forever, be the greatest, most hilarious thread on TW.

Colin Glassar
549 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:47:06
Chris 545, easyJet only flies once a week to and fro the Ukraine. Guess when the next flight is? You gotcha, noon on Thursday. He should make it to Merseyside just in time to MISS the transfer deadline! Only Everton mate, only Everton.
Gordon Crawford
550 Posted 07/08/2018 at 17:52:05
I wonder what the odds would be on both transfers being hijacked by United and Chelsea.
Brent Stephens
551 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:00:58
DK#544 Luke Waterfall, “tear to a cataract”. Very good!
Justin Doone
552 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:02:22
Digne was in Frances 2014 World Cup squad had since been binned. Bernard likewise for Brazil. Could it be they have both already peaked and now money and Premier League platform is all they have left before careers fizzle out?

A little like our own Barkley, head has been turned and although talent remains, determination and sheer will to win has taken a back seat.

For me Richarlison is the best piece of business since Cahill. He's still driven and focused to succeed.

Andrew Ellams
553 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:08:18
How quickly will this thread turn sour if don't sign Bernard or at least one quality central defender.
Chris Watts
554 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:28:37
I think it’s gone sour already. The silence is deafening- 2 days and counting. Surely we’d get a private jet ready if it was just a medical and he could be at finch farm within 12 hours from almost anywhere in the world.

Where exactly did this rumour come from it’s starting to stink. And Mina wtf is happening on that front.

David Barks
555 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:30:32
Chris,

2 days and counting? It hasn’t even been 24 hours!!!

Chris Watts
556 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:33:27
Till transfer deadline David..
Ray Said
557 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:39:09
Boycotting the Gruniad now-throwing cold water on both the 'Bernard signs' story and the Usmanov rumours. Bastard spoilsports
Fran Mitchell
558 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:46:38
I presume the club is sorting out the work permit.

One thing is for sure, Silva and Brands are working to get us the best players possible and with a clear idea as to what they want.

Things are looking up

James Marshall
559 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:47:14
I hope Bernard Coup hasn't flown the coop.

Over 550 comments and RSI from all the Googling he better bloody sign.

Bobby Thomas
560 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:48:06
Jamie #548

I remember that Kev Johnson thread well. Was a blinder.

Davie Turner
561 Posted 07/08/2018 at 18:53:20
Starting to get nervous.
Carl Thomas
562 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:03:54
Believe there's been no Movement in attempts to sign Bernard Sumner from New Order, but if we do cannot wait for the signing-on Ceremony. Until then mustn't surrender to Temptation.
Bobby Thomas
563 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:15:41
Carl #562

Don't worry about it. My sources tell me ex-Suede lead guitarist Bernard Butler has been lined up in case we strike out on Sumner.

Silva has stated that all signings must be So Young in order to lower the average age of the squad whilst simultaneously getting rid of the Trash signed by Walsh & Koeman.

Hugh Jenkins
564 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:28:35
Ray (557) apparently their chief football writer is a massive RS supporter (and bell end to boot) - hence the inherent negativity on any positive news about EFC.
Lee Paige
565 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:30:39
Bernard no longer answering his phone?
James Marshall
566 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:30:58
Medical tomorrow according to the ever reliable SSN. Kovacic possibly going to Chelsea which would rule Bernard out of a move there you'd imagine.
Ray Said
567 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:31:31
Cheers Hugh (564) - I have read the paper for years but it has gone downhill fast recently-your post answers why.
Björn Kausemann
568 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:47:44
Never heard his name. What position he's playing ? Forward, midfield, central or wing ?
Björn Kausemann
569 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:47:44
Never heard his name. What position he's playing? Forward, midfield, central or wing?
Tony Everan
570 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:48:09
Bernard and Mina will share the minibus have a joint medical tomorrow to save a few quid on diesel.

I get the impression Bernard’s a done deal and Man Utd will sign Alderweireld, so looks like Mina will come to us. The Brazilian signings and his mate Digne have tipped the balance hopefully.

Clive Rogers
571 Posted 07/08/2018 at 19:56:09
Bjorn, he’s small and is like an inside forward. A good dribbler who can play the number 10 role or as a winger.
Steve Ferns
572 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:05:58
Hugh, do you mean Phil McNulty? He’s formerly of the Echo. Yes, he’s a big red. BBC online is based in Salford. They’ve hired a load of north west based journos like the Echo’s Greg O’Keefe.

McNulty is a decent journalist though. I think he knows his stuff. He’s written some favorable stuff about us. But he’s not as critical of the RS as others might be. There’s clearly a lot written about the RS these days and it’s all with rose tinted specs.

Neil Copeland
573 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:08:35
Change of subject, I know there is time yet but has anyone else not received their season ticket yet (getting excited!)?
Josh Barber
574 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:11:35
This is great but where are the centerbacks? Please tell me Everton has a backup plan if the Mina deal falls through!
Brent Stephens
575 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:21:22
Neil, received mine only y'day.
Neil Copeland
576 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:32:50
Brent, cheers. Hopefully on it’s way then.
Mike Gaynes
577 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:40:11
Jamie #548, I missed that one. Try and find us a link, will ya?

Gotta say this is a pretty spectacular thread, however -- nearly 600 posts based on a player who hasn't even signed yet. If you printed this out it would be taller than Bernard.

Mike Gaynes
578 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:41:36
Josh #574, of course they have a backup plan. Doesn't necessarily assure it will be fully executed within the next 48 hours.
Grant Rorrison
579 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:44:04
If Bernard is an out-of-contract player, does it matter whether he is signed by the deadline? Can't he sign anyway?
Rob Halligan
580 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:44:42
Don't want to raise hopes just yet, but according to Spanish media, Mina has chosen us over Man Utd:

http://thepeoplesperson.com/2018/08/07/marca-manchester-united-target-yerry-mina-on-the-verge-of-joining-everton-201003/

Ray Said
581 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:52:40
Grant (579) – I think this is the position:

'Unattached players are free to join a new club outside the transfer window.

But Premier League clubs must name a 25-man squad at the end of every window.

That means that if a player signs, they will only be able to play in the Premier League if a club has not named a full squad or if they are under-21'.

Steve Hogan
582 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:55:27
Steve Ferns (572)
For the record, Mcnulty lives in Oxford now. Currently, I don't think it matter's an awful lot where journos live now, as long as they have access to the web.

Not sure how old you are, but do you remember McNulty falling out spectacularly with Joe Royle in the '90s over his reporting of Everton affairs?

Think he was banned from Bellefield for a while, until tempers cooled. It must be hard for anyone to have a row with Big Joe as he's such an amenable guy.

Don't think there talking yet. I've Tweeted a few times to McNulty asking him if they are on 'speaking terms', but he just ignores me.

Think the local journos now based on Merseyside are just hunting for 'click bait' all the time, or the likes of the LFC correspondent James Pierce who hangs onto Klopp's every word, and NEVER poses a question that may upset or annoy him

Chris Watts
583 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:59:02
What’s the bet Chelsea make contact with this keeper Kepa today and have the signing wrapped up so you can train tomorrow. While we’re waiting for our guys to turn up for a medical

Mike Gaynes
584 Posted 07/08/2018 at 20:59:03
Rob #580, in just the last few minutes EverythingBarca.com is reporting that Mina's Everton deal is fully agreed -- BUT Lyon is actively trying to hijack it.

https://everythingbarca.com/2018/08/07/barcelona-lyon-hijack-mina-deal/

Report says both Barca and Mina have agreed terms with us, but Lyon's president wants in, and "He will not refrain from such a deal based on ethics."

Mike Gaynes
585 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:04:11
Chris #583, you post the same thing for every signing. You did the same thing for Richarlison and Digne, complaining about how long it was taking us, and other clubs do it better and faster, blah blah blah. You and Victor and Lee Paige are like a doomsday chorale on every deal.

Give it a rest already, mate.

Rob Halligan
586 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:04:23
Mike, you wouldn't know who or what to believe. This is doing me head in. Roll on the next 44 hours when it will all be over.
Mike Gaynes
587 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:08:34
Pet the cat, Rob. It's very soothing.

Better yet, have a toddy and hit the sack. By tomorrow morning your time, we should know more.

Steve Ferns
588 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:10:16
Cheers Steve
Mike Gaynes
589 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:13:40
Steve F., my wife saw me typing and asked me to let you know that those chants went out to the universe on John's behalf.

Hope all is peaceful with you and yours.

Chris Watts
590 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:16:26
Yes, Mike, you're right – blame the last 15 years of transfer windows with a few exceptions. It's a miserable time. I think I'm going to take that advice and check back in on Friday morning... :)
Steve Ferns
591 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:17:44
Thanks Mike. It's very hard at the moment. The funeral is on Friday. Everton have confirmed they will put the picture of my dad (with me and Degsy Mountfield) in the Saints programme, so that's nice.

Thanks for what you did, means a lot.

Mike Gaynes
592 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:18:19
Wise decision, Chris. We'll keep on eye on things for you.
Mike Gaynes
593 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:20:55
Wish it could be more, Steve.

I'll be over there this season for the derby. Hope to drink a toast with you to our dads. And their sons.

Steve Ferns
594 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:24:18
Nice one Mike. I’ll buy you a pint for sure.
Mike Gaynes
595 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:28:21
On me, Steve.
Joe O'Brien
596 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:28:42
Sorry to hear about your dad Steve. Condolences to you and your family.. It's a horrible disease.. my dad passed away with it when I was 18
Chris Hockenhull
597 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:30:14
Rest easy, friends... it's all done. Blue Bill has really pulled this out out the bag... yes, welcome Home... MIKE Bernard!!!

For older readers who could forget this 'slight' chappie signed to fill the vacant spece left by Alan Ball some 18 months earlier. A man whose greatest talent was to simply fall on top of opponents and they'd be seen no more, such was his tonnage. A man who – when under pressure, could simply deploy his huge arse to become that 12th man when under the cosh when he reverted to full-back.

In the days when men were men, our Mike could be found on Friday nights at Ellesmere Port dog track riding scrambler bikes (image that now!!). For younger readers (and all I say to be convinced of his pedigree) go watch the Everton v Leeds 3-2 game - Sept 74 to witness this bull of a man plod around the pitch hardly breaking into second gear!

Apologies if he isn't in that game but it's a good excuse to witness Mike Lyons header competing with Norman Hinter's boot to score in the Park End and break Leeds's great run. (Oh for him to be wheeled out on Saturday at the back... could do a lot worse!!)

Neil Copeland
598 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:34:09
Steve, sorry to hear about your dad also. Hopefully the blues can provide a lift on Saturday.
Andy Crooks
599 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:39:00
Steve, I will be thinking of you and your family on Friday. Be strong and celebrate a good man.
Steve Ferns
600 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:44:16
Cheers Joe. I hope your father died with more care than the NHS gave my father. Sure, the nurses were excellent and did everything they could for him.

However, Clatterbridge, the Royal, and Southport Hospitals were terrible. My father starved to death. The hospital didn't do anything to help him. He had cachexia and he should have had a PEG feed but they don't do that here. My father was incapable of eating, his brain wouldn't let him.

He was also the fittest 67 year old in the world. If not the fittest he was close to it. He'd murder most 20-year-olds in a 10-mile run. He was running every day up til Christmas, when his symptoms first really came to the fore. As recently as four weeks ago, he last played golf. He was going to the gym everyday until about 6/7 weeks ago. He was still riding his bike more recently than that, doing a five-mile circuit. The guy was a picture of fitness that stretched back a life time and included a stint as a semi-pro footballer (only St Helens town, but they were in the fifth tier in the 70s). He played football until he was into his 40s and his knee went playing in a dads and lads match with myself (straining to catch a wayward shot to stop the keeper running miles to retrieve the ball).

Anyway, sorry about the rant, but I'm so angry right now. I feel so let down by something I was once so proud of. Things are happening at Everton and I can't chat to my dad about it and that really drives the point that he's gone forever home.

John McFarlane Snr
601 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:49:57
Hi Steve [591] so sorry to learn of your loss, we must meet up again to raise our glasses to your Dad. Best wishes John.
Ian Burns
602 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:52:02
Hi Steve, I will be thinking of you and your father on Friday, may he rest in peace. Sorry for your loss especially as I have followed your posts for quite some time, so I feel you are not such a stranger.
Len Hawkins
603 Posted 07/08/2018 at 21:53:43
Sorry about your loss Steve it is a very sad time losing any family member but your parents are special. I was 22 when my Dad died 4 weeks after his 65th birthday and 46 years on there are still things that I wish I could ask him.
Steuart Hayes
604 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:02:10
Like everyone else in here so sorry to hear about your dad, Steve, and others who have lost family. I'll be thinking of you and family on Friday.

Steve Ferns, just so you know, I've loved reading about Silva; you have convinced me he is the right man for the job and him and Brands will be great. I love talking all things Everton so can't imagine losing someone you do that all the time. RIP, Mr Ferns.

I don't get to Goodison much as I'm from Taunton... any ToffeeWebbers from down this way. Take care, Steve.

Gordon Crawford
605 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:03:28
Steve so sorry to hear that pal. Praying for you and your family. Hang onto your great memories, focus on them. God bless pal.
Steve Ferns
606 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:03:35
Cheers guys.
Joe O'Brien
607 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:10:49
That all sounds tough Steve, don't know how I'd deal with that. Mine passed away at home, stage 4 before they picked it up. Be strong for your mum. Your dad sounded like some man. Taken too soon going your words. Gym and playing golf at nearly 70! Some man. My thoughts will be with you and your family on Friday.
Graham Hammond
608 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:14:10
Hi Steve. I am very sorry to hear that you have recently lost your Father in horrible circumstances, my thoughts are with you and all your family at this very difficult and often surreal time. Equally, I would like to offer my belated condolences to others Evertonians who have also lost loved ones this year and in the recent past. I lost my Dad on May 13th, absolutely awful. I am never the most optimistic Evertonian but I actually have more hope and belief in the mighty blues than I do in the NHS, I think that tells you everything! I can relate to your anger Steve, stay strong my friend.
Steve Ferns
609 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:18:55
Cheers Joe.

My condolences to you too Graham. You should also contact the club and ask them to mark your father’s passing. They’re happy to do so and so they should be after a lifetime of devotion and recruiting offspring to the cause.

Graham Hammond
610 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:36:42
Thank you Steve, much appreciated. Without wishing to sound ridiculous, I hope it all goes well on Friday, my thoughts also will be with you then. The blue and white flowers set me off again on May 13th, it's amazing how a mere game (football) can do that and how it runs so deep.
Will Mabon
611 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:37:17
I'll add to Graham's condolences to anyone who's recently had the worst experience there is - loss of a loved one. We lost Mum just under three months ago. It doesn't matter how old you are, how your life is, how strong you are, it's just the worst thing there is, and you just have to deal with it in your own way, whatever that is. There's no right or wrong way.

As to thoughts and comments re. the NHS. I'll summarize mine as saying the NHS in not changing, it's aggressively being changed. It's not insurmountable lack of funding, there aren't "Too many" of us, we aren't "Demanding" too much, and it doesn't need to be "Buckling under the strain" (or any other of the psycho-babble PR crap they incessantly push). An agenda is afoot.

Ben Howard
612 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:39:10
Well I guess while we're naming our favourite Bernards, I'll go with Bernard Black. His lovable pessimism wouldn't be out of place on ToffeeWeb.


Manny: “Pet Surprise”? What’s that?
Bernard: Oh you know the thing, they take the dog out for a walk, it thinks it’s a normal walk, but when they come back, the kennel has a patio and french doors.
Manny: Yeah, yeah, and they take the blindfold off…
Bernard: Yeah and he’s like “Oh my god”, you know.

Mike Galley
613 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:40:07
Steve, if I may, I would like to add to everyone else’s comments and offer my deepest sympathy to you and your family at this sad time.
Your Dad sounds like he was a titan of a man. Someone to be truly proud of as a parent.
Simon Smith
614 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:41:02
Steve Ferns,

I know we don’t know each other, but I read your posts regularly, and on here you kind of feel like you get to know people.
Just like to also offer my condolences along with many others on here. It shows ToffeeWeb is an online community which is far more special than social networking.
Thoughts are with you

Graham Hammond
615 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:45:46
Sorry to hear you lost your Mum Will, that must have been very very tough, hope you are ok. Your posts and those from Steve are always good to read, escapism (from reality) is always the way!
Keith Dempsey
616 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:46:57
What's the problem with his name the other lot ended up with Alison, that should be fun.
Keith Dempsey
617 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:46:57
What's the problem with his name the other lot ended up with Alison, that should be fun.
Tony Everan
618 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:54:21
Steve, sorry to hear about your loss, I too have concerns about Clatterbridge where my mum died a few years ago. I’m not doubting the professionalism or dedication of the medical staff . Possibly it’s underfunded and trying to do too much with too few resources, not providing the high level of care patients deserve. Or poor management and organisation.

Anyway, this bluenose sends best wishes to you and your family.

Jim Jennings
619 Posted 07/08/2018 at 22:57:56
Steve Ferns

Funerals are never easy or nice but I hope your dad gets the send off he deserves and the funeral can be a celebration of his life (a term I’ve always found to be strange)

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on him in such an articulate manner, one I think we can all relate to. Please don’t ever apologise again for such a “rant” as you call it because it’s nothing of the sort.

Dave Williams
620 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:04:07
Steve Ferns- really sad to read your bad news. I lost my dad two years ago at 90 and he was walking two miles every day, rain, hail or snow up to a week before.
Take comfort from the memories that will never die and the feeling sometimes that he is watching over you.
My thoughts are with you.
Peter Mills
621 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:05:21
Peter Mills
622 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:06:15
Steve, Sincere condolences to you and your family on the loss of your Dad. May he rest in peace.
Frank Wade
623 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:16:02
Steve, I'm very sorry to read of your Dad's passing. He certainly was a remarkable man staying fit for so long and so sad that he was struck down by a terrible illness. Sounds like he had the sporting spirit long associated with his ancestral home in county Wexford. My sincere condolences.
Will Mabon
624 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:19:47
Graham @ 615: thanks, we're all gradually getting by in our ways. We lost Dad in 2000 so now me and the siblings are the older generation of the family - that's the way it happens!

Jim - that "Celebration" term can seem misaligned but sometimes it's spot on. After an incredibly emotional service, the wake at a nearby country pub evolved into a warm and uplifting event in fabulous June weather. Expected guests and people not seen for years had made the effort. Some of the memories and conversation were incredible.

It's an oft said irony that it can take funerals to bring people together, but it was a fitting end to things best summed up by my sister, who said "Mum would have loved this gathering".

Steve - very best of luck with it all. Laugh, cry, talk, be silent, however it happens, it's all good.

Peter Mills
625 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:21:59
Chris #597. I wouldn’t argue with you too much about Mick Bernards’s skills on a football pitch. However, he did put in a truly heroic performance in the first League Cup Final replay at Hillsborough in 1977, when he could barely walk but stayed on the pitch when our substitution had already been used. He lifted himself up off the deck to land on top of a few opponents that night.
Ron Marr
626 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:22:58
Deepest sympathy Steve.
Rian Magee
627 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:23:54
Thoughts and prayers are with you Steve
Will Mabon
628 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:26:47
Peter - Mick Bernard is made from oak.
Tom Bowers
629 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:28:33
Sad to see Bolasie go after what seemed to be a promising start alongside Lukaku.

Like so many ''big'' Everton signings over the years they start well and then usually get injured and never seem to regain what they had before.

I watched Ross Barklay with Chelski and I see a player who just doesn't exude the confidence that he had a few years back. Seems just to get the ball and pass it a couple of yards and that's it.

Everton have had many young starlets who burst on the scene and then for some reason fizzled out quickly ( Jeffers, Cadamartari, Vaughan etc.)

They have a bunch now and I wonder if they will go the same way as big money signings seem to be in vogue and many young lads get ignored unless they are really special like Rooney.

Eddie Dunn
630 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:39:37
Steve, always interested in your views...best of luck with everything mate. Things will get better.
Michael Morgan
631 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:49:37
Just wanted to send my thoughts and prayers to Steve Ferns and your family at this side sad time.

Gordon Crawford
632 Posted 07/08/2018 at 23:51:08
So sorry to hear that Will. Praying for you and your family too and for anyone who has recently lost loved ones.
John Charles
633 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:05:51
Hi all, long time watcher of this site but first-time poster.

Amongst the excitement of this thread a message to the two guys regarding their losses. I was born in Manchester in '76 and was adopted by two wonderful folks as a baby. My adopted dad was an Upper Bullens stalwart for over 25 years and he first took me the game when I was around 7. I call it my 'fever pitch' moment as that bit in the movie when the kid walks up the steps and see the pitch for the first time..

I lost my dad February 2nd last year to late-stage Parkinson's and for last 5 or 6 years after years of season tickets have been going alone and always in the main stand so I could see his (and my) old seat on the front row of the Upper Bullens. I have not been back since he died and it will be hard.

I wish he had seen Rooney come back. I know it didn't work out and rightly some people were nonplussed but he always watched him at Man Utd as he said, 'I just love to watch him play'. It took me longer to get over the anger of him going but Dad was a better man than me I guess.

Anyway, lads, from one who was made a Blue (thank you dad), I think progress is difficult to take when we wish loved ones were still here to see new stadiums and maybe a trophy. My thoughts are with you and all blues. Let's not in-fight, eh?

From I, guess, a wool!

COYB
Ed Prytherch
634 Posted 07/08/2018 at 00:06:45
Steve, quality of life is the thing. You never know when you are going to go but staying fit and healthy and having a good laugh enables us to make the best of the hand that we are dealt. Two of my friends have lost brothers aged 67 in the past few weeks. They were both fit and active for most of their lives and they will be well remembered. That is my goal. My dad had a bad ticker but he beat me at snooker two weeks before he died and he enjoyed doing it.
David Pearl
636 Posted 08/08/2018 at 01:09:13
Steve, just like to echo the sentiment to you and your family from all the blues family on here. Sorry for your loss.
Graham Hammond
637 Posted 08/08/2018 at 01:21:10
Mike Bernard lived down the road from me at the top of Wetherby Way, never knew whether his house was in Little Sutton or Great Sutton, still don't know to this day! Tough cookie, we need some of his qualities in the present day players.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

638 Posted 08/08/2018 at 01:58:19
Steve @ 600:

"Things are happening at Everton and I can't chat to my dad about it..."

Trust me Steve, those dialogues with your dad will continue.

Heartfelt thoughts to both your mother and yourself.

Andrew Keatley
639 Posted 08/08/2018 at 02:20:38
Steve Ferns - I have not commented yet on the topic of your father, partly out of polite distance, but also partly out of fear; my own father died in April - also from cancer. He was 68.

In the days and weeks that followed his death it was the contact from people who knew my father - friends, work colleagues, acquaintances, whoever - that brought real comfort, and on occasion made me learn something new about him that I never had the chance to discover when he was alive.

Obviously I do not know you or your father, but your description of him makes me believe that he was a very good father to you - and that in itself is a wonderful thing. I wish you and the rest of your family the absolute best - and the same goes for everyone else on here who has lost someone recently; sadly, reading this thread and others, there are a large amount of people in that number. Wonderful compassion on here from everyone.

Chad Schofield
640 Posted 08/08/2018 at 08:09:02
Really sorry for your loss Steve, and hope that after Friday you have some time to pause. I don't know why I've written that last bit, because then it'll be Saturday and most likely a load of sorting out still.

Having lost my mum after a pretty horrendous few months (topping off a rough few years with her health), it's only now we're getting past he practical stuff. If you haven't already, I'd really recommend some counselling... I appreciate it's not very blokey to suggest, and it doesn't have to be months or even weeks and weeks - but it sounds like you've had a shit time of it. All I can say is that I feel it helped me.

Hugh Jenkins
641 Posted 08/08/2018 at 08:38:18
Steve (572) Firstly, my condolences on your loss.
As I said previously, I too lost my Dad to cancer almost 40 years ago. The pain will diminish, but it will take time. Hopefully, a major improvement in Everton's fortunes will help to ease it.

It isn't McNullty ( who is chief football writer for the BBC).

Ray was referring to the chief football writer for the Guardian who is Barney Ronay.

Mike Keating
642 Posted 08/08/2018 at 09:22:17
Steve @600,
Sorry for your loss Steve and share your anger at how he was let down by the NHS.
Can I suggest you contact PALS?
They are independent of the system and will investigate your complaints thoroughly. I used it when the Royal managed to lose my wife for 4 days!
It won’t ease the pain but it might call to account those who failed in their duty of care.
Stewart Lowe
643 Posted 08/08/2018 at 09:41:05
I am getting that Usmanov is looking a more and more a real deal.
Terry Smith
644 Posted 08/08/2018 at 09:43:10
Any news if Bernard has been spotted in Merseyside having a medical ??
Jamie Sweet
645 Posted 08/08/2018 at 09:51:49
Terry, twitter was showing pictures of him on an aeroplane overnight, but no clues where the plane was heading! He looked pretty happy!
Machiel Barnard
646 Posted 08/08/2018 at 10:02:35
Daily Express reckons that Chelsea are trying to steal Bernard from us...
Steve Ferns
647 Posted 08/08/2018 at 10:27:26
Thanks again guys.

Mike #642 I will certainly look into PALs. I will be contacting my MP, my Dad's MP, and the new Health Secretary to try to get the NHS to spend more than 1% of their cancer research budget on the most devastating (and brutal) killer of all the cancers. I also want to the NHS to make a change so they PEG feed (IV) patients rather than let them feed themselves. My Dad had cachexia (similar to anorexia) and could not be fed orally. He effectively starved to death, and this must change. It does not happen in America where nutrition is a vital part of fighting cancer.

#638 I hope so. I know when I'm in the gym (my dad's wish is for me to get fit) I talk to him all the way through it. I will miss our conversations about Everton, and the way he having played at a high level could explain the game to me. A wayward 60 yard pass to no one by Sheedy was not his fault, it was the fault of the winger who should had made the run and then looked, knowing Sheedy's quality and he should not have looked and then casually jogged after it. He had a great eye for things and sat next to him in the ground was always an education.

John Charles great to hear from you and hope you contribute more in future.

Andrew Keatley, you're so right and we're amongst friends here. We should never suffer in silence and seeing as we communicate everyday (well some of us) about football, people should get stuff off their chest instead of bottling it up.

Thanks again to everyone.

Tony Everan
648 Posted 08/08/2018 at 10:59:07
Steve, maximum respect for trying to change things for the better.

Rumours now that Mr Kenwright to step down . Are we about to introduce a new investor and board member?

Steve Ferns
649 Posted 08/08/2018 at 11:07:42
Cheers Tony.

I believe you're implying Usmanov. I can't remember where I read it, but I read something last night that said Usmanov is going to buy an Italian side. Now that doesn't make sense to me. Sure, a top Italian side like Juve makes a lot of money. He can't buy them as their effectively a family owned club now, and the family have assets worth more than Usmanov. Maybe he can resurrect AC Milan, but the Italian TV deal is worth nothing, so the returns on his investment will be less than he'd get for owning Everton, especially if he can get us in the Champions League.

Who else can he invest in? Germany is a non-starter due to the fan ownership rules. Spain you can't get hold of the big two, the others will never bring the return on investment. France is a one club league and you can't usurp PSG financially.

Hopefully, Usmanov can consider it all carefully, and then decide that we are the best chance he has of building a club that he can then sell for a massive profit in 5-10 years time after we've won the Champions League!

Tony Everan
650 Posted 08/08/2018 at 11:14:32
I think he is chucking a few red herrings out there with the Italy clubs and other comments. He doesn’t want the publicity and the piranha journalists going into overdrive.

He may well have already made his mind up to join Mr Moshiri and embrace the project. It is one of the most exciting things to do in World football at the moment . At Usmanov’s age he can see an inspired project through from start to finish and see his investment bear fruit. What more could a billionaire want!

Not that I am biased in any way.

Rob Dolby
651 Posted 08/08/2018 at 11:28:29
This must be some verge, 633 and counting.
Rian Magee
652 Posted 08/08/2018 at 12:36:05
Must be another of our epic 60 hour medicals 😂

Is Usamanov any good at CB?

Thomas Lennon
653 Posted 08/08/2018 at 12:39:30
Steve - I work for a specialist team in the NHS and I support the suggestion that PALS is a good way to go. Raise a formal complaint as it cannot be ignored and it will force them to prioritise reviewing what went on.
We occasionally use peg feeding but it is not always appropriate, it may help if you knew the reason why it was not used in your Dad's case and PALS will help you get those answers.
James Marshall
654 Posted 08/08/2018 at 12:40:50
Bernard and Mina both signing today by all accounts.

Remember the Digne deal taking what felt like ages - same scenario here, deals in place, fees and personal terms all agreed, just got to sort out medicals and work permit (for Bernard) and film/edit the intro videos for them.

Reports in Spain say Mina is a done deal and will be announced today.

Chris Mason
655 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:02:24
Bernard’s plane must need to refuel
Lee Paige
656 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:07:17
I’m hopeful but starting to get this feeling we are in for a huge letdown come tomorrow. It’s got that ‘we tried but...’ feeling about it. I am pinning my hopes on him arriving at FF around 2pm.
Tony Everan
657 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:15:39
If the Centre Back deal ( Mina or Zouma ) is not signed today, I recommend wearing two pairs of undies tomorrow. The thought of going a season without strengthening our CB positions is giving me palpitations.

Marcel knows what he is doing, I’m sure.

Mike Dolan
658 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:22:41
Huge signing if this comes of. I have read all the stuff about Schneiderlin With a faster more pressing style in front of him and a re-enforced defense behind him he is a different player. He has been guilty of sideways passing but surely that is as much a product of not having an outlet for his long balls forward which he is brilliant at . In a team put together for a super fast transition game rather than the stiflingly slow plodding build ups that we have become used to those long balls fast players on the wings become deadly. Also he does possess good positional sense and is good in the tackle. You don't need speed to be effective in his position (ask Gareth Barry) you do need savvy. He is less of a shield and more of a pivot thats his game.
Andrew Ellams
659 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:35:57
Hope you're right James. For what difference it makes, I'm agreement.
Anthony Hawkins
660 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:48:08
Bernard signing today? How? Would be great but I can't see it. Has he even had his medical? What about the permit issue?

Mina - has anyone seen or heard any real evidence of his arrival? Medical?

Are either at Finch Farm?

Derek Knox
661 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:51:56
Watching SSN before, to check if there were any updates, ie breaking news etc, they even showed Rob Dorsett I think his name is, at Grinch Farm.

The only activity at the time going into the premises, was a Hanson Ready Mix Cement/Concrete wagon, which I must admit has me puzzled.

Has anyone any idea?

Paul Smith
662 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:53:37
We'll end up with Zouma
Michael Lynch
663 Posted 08/08/2018 at 13:55:21
I'm assuming any signings we make now won't be in the side until the Southampton game at the earliest. We've no idea what kind of state Bernard will arrive in, as he may well have been sitting on the beach drinking pina coladas since the end of last season, playing keepie-uppies with a bevy of Brazilian beauties - sorry, just thinking about what I'd have been doing if I was him ....

Rob Halligan
664 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:21:30
Sky sports saying that Bernard is travelling to Liverpool today for a medical. The only thing is they say he's travelling from Brazil! 😬😬

Given the time difference, about 5 or 6 hours, and the time it takes to fly here (probably to Manchester), around 10 hours, I reckon he caught a flight around 4am our time, about 10pm - 11pm Brazilian time, meaning he should be in Manchester about now!!!

Hopefully be on Merseyside by about 4pm. So there you go, sorted!!👍👍👍

Steve Ferns
665 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:27:29
Derek, concrete boots so Bernard can't leave once he arrives and we make him sign that offer he can't refuse!

Rob, he'll go direct to LJL as he won't be on easyjet! We'll have sent Moshiri's private jet that we use for all the big players.

Geoff Lambert
666 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:30:05
Derek it is used for foundations we must be starting do build something big.
Hears hoping.
Dave Williams
667 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:30:38
Mike Dolan makes some good points re Morgan. We were so slow and ponderous last season that anyone would have struggled in midfield. I also think that Tom and DCL will look much better if they are surrounded by a solid defence and attackers who will move around at pace. Morgan has shown he can be a good player and if we sign Bernard and a decent CB then he will have no excuse.
Rob Halligan
668 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:32:18
I was thinking more British Airways, Steve, so he can get his head down in first class for a few hours overnight. If Mosh has a private jet with beds then even better.
Len Hawkins
669 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:40:18
Steve #649

I can see Sheikh Yabooty handing over telephone numbers of cash to buy Everton when they are Champions League Winners.

William Gall
670 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:45:32
Believe it when the same as any other signing he is shown in an Everton shirt, at F.F. with the scarf over his head. This is Everton we are talking about isn't it ?
Steve Ferns
671 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:51:22
Guys, watch the Richarlison press conference. I'm really liking this kid. He's called Charlie by the way, that's what he's told everyone to call him.

Anyway, some highlights:
- He's a fan of Bernard
- He used to play with Mina and is mates with him
- Everton are a big club and can achieve big things
- Everton should aim for higher than last season

Charlie, you're my boy!

Aidan Baker
672 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:52:09
Alan Myers has just posted a photo of Bernard arriving at Manchester airport.
Steve Ferns
673 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:52:55
Looks like Rob was right about Easyjet!

Aidan, Alan has his picture (selfie) with him, and a caption "Welcome to Everton Beranrd" and no it's none of the Bernard's listed above, particularly the lifeguard from the council who saved James' granddad before becoming a movie star.

So it looks like this is happening!

James Marshall
674 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:54:13
Bernard is en route!

Link

Rob Halligan
675 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:57:47
Told ya!!!
Ian Reed
676 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:59:30
Why does the photo look like he's on crutches?!
Alan J Thompson
677 Posted 08/08/2018 at 14:59:31
I don't understand all this fuss over transfer delays. Today's transfer is far more complex and so the problems have increased proportionately. I remember one year we couldn't find the fax paper, these days we can't even find the bloody fax machine!
Andrew Ellams
678 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:00:11
Will he now have a famous Everton 48 hour medical?
James Marshall
679 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:02:00
Because he's only 4'3 Ian and those bags are too big for him.
Andrew Ellams
680 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:05:51
I really hope we sign Mina now just so we can see the two of them photographed standing next to one another.
Michael Lynch
681 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:06:24
Hope he's got ID otherwise he's got even less chance than Lookman of getting served in a Wetherspoons.

That ain't Bernard Cribbins, that's Norman Wisdom we've signed!

Lee Paige
682 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:11:30
Phew this is good news.
David Midgley
683 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:12:18
Steve, your father's passing has brought a shared
sympathy,pain and sadness. But it has also
brought us a shared joy and happiness through us
thinking about someone we've lost.
It reminds us how mortal we all are.
This thread, through you father feels different to
me. It's almost tangible from all the posts and the
readers who are sharing it . I somehow, I know it
sounds silly feel a silent Blue unity.
After 35 years I still talk to my dad. When I say
"What d'you think or what would you do ?"
There's no reply-------but there is because I know
what he would say.

#633-- Wool ??? Seems like silk to me.

Rob Halligan
684 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:13:42
Looks like Bernard got his duty free through customs anyway.
Steve Ferns
685 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:15:27
Nicely said David.

I hope Myers is keeping those Chelsea guys chasing him through the airport away!

Andrew Ellams
686 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:19:43
Toblerones for all his new mates Rob
Rob Halligan
687 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:23:38
Sky sports saying he should have his medical in the next 48 hours.

FFS, I hope not as that will be passed the TDD.

Rob Halligan
688 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:25:43
Love those massive bars of toblerone you can buy in airports Andrew.
Erik Dols
689 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:26:47
Well this all makes sense and puts more faith in the progress of the new stadium plans. As it will be on the waterfront, with the strong winds and lukewarm Chang beer, we will see one or two Evertonians in the water each home game. I for one feel it is a good thing we get in some lifeguards early. Probably nobody on this thread realises this as it has not been mentioned yet, but our new signing once saved the Hotel inspector from Fawlty Towers from drowning by throwing James' granddad in the water.
Michael Lynch
690 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:43:42
You can get a decent size Toblerone bar in Poundland these days. Someone needs to tell Bernard.
James Marshall
691 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:44:32
Michael, how much are they?

My Grandad really has risen from the grave due to us signing Bernard.

Isn't the Internet wonderful?

Michael Lynch
692 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:45:16
I'll ask next time I'm in there James. They fucking love it in there when you ask how much something is. Oh how they laugh.
Michael Lynch
693 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:46:42
I'm hoping he's got a decent haircut under that hat. Either that hat is from a joke shop, or he's got the tiniest head in the Premier League.
Andy Williams
694 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:47:14
Woo and indeed hoo! Nearly there. The Saint/ Cribbins etc. has touched down.
Anthony Hawkins
695 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:49:34
@671 - Steve Ferns - I hope Richarlison doesn't play on the right. He'd be a right Charlie!

Good news about the arrival of Bernard!!!

Rob Halligan
696 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:49:42
Andy, it's just too good to be true!
Andrew Ellams
697 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:56:59
I'm flying on Sunday Rob, I'll have one for you.
Andrew Ellams
698 Posted 08/08/2018 at 15:57:00
I'm flying on Sunday Rob, I'll have one for you.
Rob Halligan
699 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:05:08
Cheers Andrew. Somewhere nice I hope.
Alan McGuffog
700 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:05:39
Thought I'd ask .is he any good ?
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
701 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:09:09
Erik - Jacksonville Jaguars have built a swimming pool in their stadium. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/11055495/jacksonville-jaguars-poolside-cabanas-stadium

Now that would make Bramley Moore a bit different. Just the place for Speedo Steve and during January and February we can have Ice Skating. And we could build one of those infinity pools so it looks like it is the Mersey flowing in and out.

And can somebody post a new picture of Bernard. Let's get his arms down and with a pen in hand and a contract underneath them. I am sure that 48 hours with his hands above his head there will be no blood in his hands to hold a pen and sign the contract.

Andrew Ellams
702 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:13:30
Antalya Rob. First time there so I hope so too.
Brent Stephens
703 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:14:48
#674 - in that link, is Bernard the guy in the hiviz jacket or baseball cap?
Jamie Crowley
704 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:15:28
Phil @ 701 -

I live about 30 minutes from the Jaguars stadium.

As circus-like as that pool may be, it's exceedingly popular.

Rob Halligan
705 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:15:49
Nice one. Bring us some Turkish kebabs back. 👍👍👍
James Marshall
706 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:17:13
By my reckoning it's about 45 minutes from Manchester airport to Flinch Farm so Bernard should be there by now. Why the bloody hell hasn't he signed yet?
Brent Stephens
707 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:18:04
Derek K #661 "The only activity at the time going into the premises, was a Hanson Ready Mix Cement/Concrete wagon, which I must admit has me puzzled. Has anyone any idea?"

Yes, he's going in to fill up from Schneids' boots.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
708 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:19:57
Jamie, was there in 2010. Planning to see them play the Pats in 2012 until it was scheduled for 23rd Dec. Planned for 2018 until they made it the week 2 game which was too early for our holiday. Maybe 2024! Instead going to watch the Gators on 11/4.

Need some tips of anything to see in Jacksonville. Is there anything?

And at $150-200 per person, no wonder it is popular. Mind you, until this season there was more enjoyment in the pool that watching the game.

Tony Sullivan
709 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:20:16
What a fantastic thread this has been, a tribute to ToffeeWebbers everwhere, thanks guys and girls, and Bernard Cribbens Grandad or have I got that wrong (again) err.. what was the story again!
Rob Halligan
710 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:21:22
Typical Everton, James. He's been in England over an hour now. Can't we do anything quick?
Michael Nisbet
711 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:23:43
He's arrived at Finch Farm... Maybe stupidly, but I'm starting to get my hopes up!
Michael Lynch
712 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:24:15
I must confess I'm starting to feel just a little bit moist around the testicles at the thought of Charlie, Bernie, Cenc, Theo and Siggy in our front line. Even with the load of shite we have behind them

Anyway, fuck central defence, the opposition are going to have get double figures just to draw with us.

Mark Tanton
713 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:25:00
He's just arrived through the gates of Finch Farm. This is like Roger Moore's appearance on Knowing Me Knowing You.

"Roger Moore is at Chiswick Roundabout as we speak".

"ROGER! ROGER!"

Dan Brierley
714 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:29:11
Good to see the excitement for this guy, but I must admit I know nothing about him. After a quick scan of the internet, I have understood he is a winger coming from the Ukranian league where last season he managed only 18 starts and scored 6 times. His contact expired in June, and it seems nobody made him an offer besides us, apparently due to his wage demands?

On top of that, where is he going to play as I have understood Richarlison and Walcott will occupy the wings, with Sigurdsson in the middle. And I guess this also spells the end for Lookman who is not going to be getting any game time with the other 3 wingers well in front of him.

I think we are screaming out for a player that can replace Schiederlin in the centre and link up the defence with attack, so I'm scratching my head at this signing as it seems to be a huge amount of wages on someone we don't really need?

Somebody help me out here.

Michael Lynch
715 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:31:10
Dan, he's small, he's Brazilian, he has loads of tattoos. What more do you need to know? He's going to be brilliant.
Lee Paige
716 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:31:11
OK he knows the tax laws right?
John Wilson
717 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:31:12
Steve Fearns

I read that previous forum just now and realise your dad passed 4 Aug at 11am. So glad he had a peaceful end. My prayers and stuff go to your and your family. Don't mean to remind you of this loss, just wanted to acknowledge the situation.

James Marshall
718 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:32:15
Tony@709

So my old Grandad was out fly fishing one day...

Mark Tanton
719 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:32:56
It all just feels so much than Koeman and Walsh taking it turns to pull names out of an envelope with Moshiri's credit card on the coffee table - "Ooooh, this one says Klassen".
Chris Watts
720 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:33:02
Hi Dan.. by all accounts this guy is a winger in the David silva mode. Or a play maker to stitch everything together and give out attack some sleight of hand to go with the new round pace we have on the wings

I agree we need to replace Morgan but surely you’d agree we haven’t had a genuine play maker since arteta?

Lee Paige
721 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:35:41
Richarlison - Bernard - Walcott

There’s some speed there, for once they won’t know where we are coming from. Ha Ha Ha!

Dave Abrahams
722 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:36:44
John (633), your maybe a wool or whatever, I think it adds up to being a gent in your case, lovely post.

Steve you have had great support in the last week from lots of Bluenoses on ToffeeWeb, I hope everything goes well on Friday for you and all the family, I'll be thinking of you and saying a prayer in memory of your dad on the day. God bless.

Bill Watson
723 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:41:57
Bernard is at Finch Farm!

Just got in when I posted that and I see it's already old news!! lol

Dave Ganley
724 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:46:20
Steve Ferns, never realised you had lost your dad, you have my sympathies mate. Wish you well for the funeral.
Karl Meighan
725 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:46:37
Hopefully Gana/Schneiderlin do all the graft breaking things up and this lad runs the show and creates. Lets face it anyone who is positive, finds a blue shirt everytime and can skip away from challenges has to be better than we have.

Im hoping he plays central or thats were Silva has him marked in for. Do we really need two defensive midfielders playing at Goodison? Hopefully he plays well enough to be a permanent starter and he picks himself with his performances.

Andrew Ellams
726 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:49:23
Looks like Wolves are about to sign Deondecker (?) from Anderlecht. That could have been a decent addition to our squad
Andrew Clare
727 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:49:53
I suppose we won't see much of him until October as he will need time to get up to full fitness.
I just hope that if we sign two central defenders they are both fully fit and they have had a full pre-season.
Otherwise we will be struggling.
If we get our targets Silva will have us flying high.
Tony Sullivan
728 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:52:51
Thanks James @718, I remember now it was 'about the one that got away'. Obviously a typical Everton story.
Robert Leigh
729 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:53:40
Also being linked with Andre Gomes, the Portugese central midfielder.

Not seen much of him, but I assume the type we want/need?

Andrew Ellams
730 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:56:08
Robert, wasn't he the other player along with Mina that was allegedly offered to Man Utd in exchange for Pogba?
Dan Brierley
731 Posted 08/08/2018 at 16:57:22
Cheers Chris, I definitely agree we have been miserably lacking an Arteta during his late career when he played through the centre. By that time he was able to turn defence into attack and also able to do the defensive duties, and was great in the air. But Bernard at 5ft 5, I don't see him competing in the centre against the Pogba's/De Bruyne's/Fabregas of this world, no matter how tricky he is.

From what I have read his natural and most effective position seems to be attacking on the left side, where we have just spent 40 million on Richarlison. It feels to me like the Klaassen/Sigurdsson thing all over again.

Derek Knox
732 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:00:20
James @718, Funnily enough I read 'Fly Fishing' by JRR Hartley, even stranger, the inside cover was endorsed by none other than Bernard Cribbins!
James Hughes
733 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:01:22
Steve Ferns, wish you the best for Friday, give your Al fella a proper scouse send off. As in anyone who goes home sober is disowned.
Always remember the life they lived, and gave, and not the end.
Kase Chow
734 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:01:26
Steve #600

Sorry to hear mate. Condolences fella

Tom Bowers
735 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:03:01
Wolves have signed a whole new team and have made their intentions clear.
Don't suppose all of them will start against Everton but Traore can be a big danger if he is in the mood.

Everton's new boys may not have an immediate impact on early results but if they can get the defence sorted out early it would be something to build on.

A lot depends on attitude which was very poor last season so they need to come out positively and not sit back waiting for things to happen.

Will be very interesting to see what effect Silva can have on them if any at all especially after the lousy pre-season.

Loko Sanchez
736 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:05:02
Richarlison, Bernard, Niasse and Walcott. What a line up. I am excited!
Mark Tanton
737 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:06:43
Wolves are signing lots of players, yes. Didn't work out too well for us last year though did it? We have a manager identifying what we need and a DoF going and getting them. Quality, not quantity. Hopefully
Martin Berry
738 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:11:17
A very skillful player, a lot like Sanchez but better. If he can cope with the physicality of the Prem then he will be a steal and a right handful for defenders
I think three more players will follow, two defenders and a central midfielder, one bought perhaps two on loan.
An exciting Thursday beckons I feel.
Rob Halligan
739 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:11:44
Mark, you're right. I think the more players you sign in one window, the harder it is for them to gel as a unit, particularly at this late stage in the window.

If wolves start about 6 or 7 of their new signings on Saturday, it may just benefit us.

Dermot Byrne
740 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:11:48
Only one more step.

Chat with CEO and them time to celebrate.

Yaaaaay!

Link

Andrew Ellams
741 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:14:01
I think Wolves have spent and recruited better than we did last year but it will probably take time for the whole squad to gel.

In the meantime Teamtalk are claiming Mina will be announced 'within hours'

Fran Mitchell
742 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:15:10
Dan, you say "But Bernard at 5ft 5, I don't see him competing in the centre against the Pogba's/De Bruyne's/Fabregas of this world, no matter how tricky he is."

Firstly, size isn't everything. First touch, quick movement, accurate passing can go a long way. Iniesta seemed to have an ok career despite his midgetness. Also, we won't play against Pogba and co every week.

Barry McNally
743 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:17:25
Martin 738, presume you're referring to Lawrie Sanchez!!
Dermot Byrne
744 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:20:31
Dermot Byrne
745 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:20:38
Martin 738: physicality of PL? Jaysus, would find lacrosse more daunting.

Speed maybe but these "premadonas" have more chance of injury in shower in Head and Shoulders ad'.

Paul Kossoff
746 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:31:39
Press having a dig at Mina before we buy him!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/yerry-mina-transfer-everton-manchester-13020787

James Stewart
747 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:32:06
@731 Not in the slightest bit like Klaassen/Sigurdsson Dan. Bernard can play anywhere, wing, no.10, 8. Very similar to David Silva in play style, who is also small but more than embarrasses many midfielders twice his size.

Plus Richarlison isn't a traditional winger, he will end up as a striker. So happy days, enjoy it for once!

We are chasing Andre Gomes for the Schneiderlin role.

Dan Brierley
748 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:41:44
Hi Fran, I'm talking about when not in possession when I say being able to compete. The obvious long balls, keeper clearances, goal kicks etc. but also being strong enough to win the ball. Here I'm talking about needing a replacement for Schneiderlin in the centre of the park. I'm not sure why you mention Iniesta, unless you mean Bernard should replace Sigurdsson in the advanced centre role?
Alan J Thompson
749 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:47:31
Why is he having a medical at Finch Farm and Richarlieson had his at Newton-le-Willows? Not that it matters where we keep our MRI machine.
Dermot Byrne
750 Posted 08/08/2018 at 17:51:18
Alan...now on 750 posts, the key is who will film the video.
Jamie Crowley
751 Posted 08/08/2018 at 18:12:13
Phil @ 708 -

That week two game this year we have the Higgins Clan traveling down from Boston from my Aunt's side of the family. Like 15 to 20 of them. There will be an Irish-Bostonian contingent of very drunk people destroying Jacksonville.

We've already notified the local authorities.

When you come to Jax, stay near the beach. I'd suggest my little hamlet of Ponte Vedra Beach. Stay at the Sawgrass Marriott. They have a beach club and a shuttle to get you there. Nice place - actually ate in their bar last night with a son. Save your pennies

If that's a bit too steep price-wise, there's some excellent places to stay on the beach in Jacksonville Beach. A lot of restaurants and bars there too.

In short, if you're coming to Jax, stay near the beach. It's what's wonderful about this area. And bring golf clubs if you golf - it's golf heaven here. The TPC Stadium course is a once in a lifetime thing. Teeing it up on the 17th and trying to hit the 130 yard shot to the island green is surreal.

If and when you get to Jax, hit me up on TW. I'll have you over for a beer or a glass of wine. And I sincerely mean that, not the English, "come over for dinner" conundrum I've never understood! Hit me up and I'll feed ya a couple of drinks at the homestead for an hour or two.

Do not forget your swimming trunks mate! Pools abound, oceans beckon. As you've been here previously, you knew that already. ;0)

OH! AND! Lynch's Irish Pub in Jax Beach - footy 24/7 on the tubes. Great Pub. Highly suggest hitting that place! If you go, I'll join you there. I'd live there if it were possible. Great food, and an authentic Irish breakfast which is a rarity to find here in 'Merica.

Cheers.

John Keating
752 Posted 08/08/2018 at 18:12:21
We are being linked with loads of midfielders and defenders. No forwards ???????
Simon Dalzell
753 Posted 08/08/2018 at 18:13:13
Steve Ferns (#600). My condolences, sympathy, and best wishes to you and your family at this difficult time. The blue family is with you all the way.

My 'Everton mad' old fella died at 64 of cancer, and his NHS treatment was diabolical. Also MacMillan wouldn't come out because of the weather!!! (Which wasn't too bad...) Dad never complained once. I will look out for the photo in the Southampton programme. COYB.

Mark Tanton
754 Posted 08/08/2018 at 18:33:29
Alan possibly because time is becoming an issue and they can do it all together at FF?
Colin Glassar
755 Posted 08/08/2018 at 19:24:58
It must be shit being a Spurs fan tonight.
James Marshall
756 Posted 08/08/2018 at 21:21:26
It's shit being a Spurs fan every night, Colin.

Also no surprise we're seeing Portugese speaking players all suddenly showing up at Everton - the Andre Gomes thing looks like a goer too.

Tim Greeley
757 Posted 09/08/2018 at 04:07:01
I have nothing to add beyond "Yay!" but I want to be included in this landmark, perhaps record breaking TW comment anthology. It's just an honor to be here!!
Merle Urquart
758 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:31:54
Sorry all to piss on the buffet, but everyone seems to be getting too exited here...come Saturday we will still probably start with Schneiderlin/Gana which we all know simply doesn't work, there's still time for the Mina deal to go tits up which means George Malone er Phil Jagielka will start too.

I cant help thinking too that maybe these signings should have all been done months ago and the new arrivals could have settled in...doesn't seem like a proper thought out plan to me.

Steve Ferns
759 Posted 09/08/2018 at 12:37:27
Merle, don't expect any of these players to start against Wolves. They'll need at least a couple of weeks to get fit.

Schneiderlin is a shoe in to start unless Gomes can sit deep.

Merle Urquart
760 Posted 09/08/2018 at 13:28:53
My biggest fear Steve is watching us simply being overrun by a fitter, stronger Wolves, the one positive is, they too are going to shoehorn latest signings into the side which hopefully won't work.

I,m glad we've started at last to get rid of the unnecessary surplus and untalented, and also that we are trying to sign players (eventually) but there still residual whiffs that make me nervous for the new season...two of them being Schneiderlin (stinking attitude) and Jagielka (ability & poor leadership)

I wish I had that optimistic outlook that seems to prevail but the last few seasons have crushed it out of me

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