Marco Silva says that he is working hard with his players towards building a culture of keeping clean sheets at Everton.
The Portuguese has overseen six matches in all competitions since taking charge of the Blues but has seen his team concede in each one of them.
Much of the debate before last Sunday centred around his preference for zonal marking at set-pieces but the three goals Everton shipped last weekend against West Ham all came from open play… with “open” being the operative word when it came the midfield and defence.
Silva addressed the zonal marking debate on Soccer Saturday, saying: “It's normal the fans ask — they don't like the team conceding. It's not because you mark zonal or man to man.
“Last season here they had zonal [marking] with one coach and man-to-man with another and they conceded goals in the same way.”
The 41-year-old has drawn early comparisons with Roberto Martinez, the former Blues boss who became infamous for his emphasis on attack, seemingly at the expense of the defensive side of the game, but irrespective of how the goals have gone in against Everton, Silva says that he is impressing on his players how important it is to him that they develop a mentality of wanting to keep clean sheets.
“My players know that my philosophy will be offensive but something I really like, and something I haven't felt yet this season, is winning with a clean sheet,” he explained in the Liverpool Echo.
“If you don't concede the goals, with our normal way of playing, then we will be closer to winning the matches.
“It is something I have told them, not once, twice but more than five or six times because it is something important for me, important for us as a squad and something I want to create with them: this desire and enjoying not conceding goals.
“For us to have a clean sheet, everything must start in our attack line.
“I don't look at the squad and break it into sectors… If you can create connections between [the players] and having the same backline every match, it will be better. But [a squad is] like a block, it is not just about our backline and goalkeeper when we concede a goal."
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1 Posted 23/09/2018 at 07:47:46
2 Posted 23/09/2018 at 07:52:29
3 Posted 23/09/2018 at 08:27:31
It does appear sometimes that league positions wise progress has stood still or even gone backwards since the middle part of the Moyes era.
The league hasnt changed that much, the top 4 clubs were still usually head and shoulders above the rest but the biggest concern for me is we have fallen further behind the top 6 (of which under Moyes we used to be a regular part of).
Manchester City since 2010 have understandably left most trailing in their dust but we are now spending roughly on a par with say Tottenham and we still cant get near challenging.
It feels like looking back the Motes era did bring with it a level of stability if nothing else, we knew there was a glass ceiling but we knew we had the capabilities to challenge seriously for the top 5.
Everton as a club need a long period of stability now to start finding out exactly where it wants to be going and back up this lavish spending every summer with actually some positive progress on the pitch.
Is Silva is good enough to bring that stability over that time? Who knows but really we need to keep him here to find out.
Its one thing spending money like theres no tomorrow but sooner or later it has to have something to show for it rather than modest top 7 or 8 finishes with that glass ceiling starting its formation for us again.
A clean sheet might be a bloody good start too at some point!
4 Posted 23/09/2018 at 08:36:44
It was only last week that all the players were banging on about how great the new regime was.
Stick with him. Getting very bored of this new Everton which can't stick with a manager.
5 Posted 23/09/2018 at 08:56:11
Can't stick with a Manager? I think we need a Manager with a big stick.
6 Posted 23/09/2018 at 08:58:56
Awww, ain't that tough.
But hey, it's well below the headline about the psychic predicting more trouble in the Rooney marriage, so this one won't keep me up tonight.
7 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:02:55
In saying that though, last weeks formation, or the manner in which both fullbacks were both going forward at the same time, was totally unacceptable for top level football, so maybe the players have a point?
Im looking forward to todays game, Ive been looking forward to seeing how the manager and his players respond to last week. I know its early days, but I honestly think we might learn a lot today?
8 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:03:33
9 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:05:02
I dont think our players are the quickest learners are they?
Maybe one reason why no manager seems to be able to get anything through to them.
10 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:11:13
Good points well made.
I also thinks it would be beneficial if we could make some purchases that initially go under the radar, and dont cost fortunes, but turn out to gems, such as Cahill, or Baines, or Pienar etc. Be great to have some players again that make their name with us, or enhance their reputation, rather than come to us as “stars” and dont work out .
11 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:25:16
"My players know my philosophy is offensive" (not to be confused with downright bloody rude)...."but if you don't concede goals then you are closer to winning matches".
12 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:34:21
13 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:43:12
14 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:43:26
15 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:45:39
Never mind roll on 4.00 pm think I will get some birch twigs to compound the misery. Up the blues
16 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:46:56
17 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:51:50
I know our rebuilding will take at least a year (at least) before we'd be ready to be able to challenge the Top 6 or top 4 or whatever, but the last thing we want now is a mutiny.
It irks me that we are 12th at the moment. Another loss and will we see people wanting Silva gone??
Are we any better off (points wise) than this time last year? It was in October that we sacked Koeman. I hope we find the "buzz" that we had in the first couple of games and get a result today.
We need two Brazilians on the pitch!!
18 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:01:54
A clean sheet against arsenal today would definitely be a good start. Can anyone see that happening though.
19 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:02:01
It was the lack of a proven goalscorer that cost us. The closest we came to silverware was the Final and our best striker for years, the 48 year old Yakubu was injured.
20 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:04:51
Anyone who thinks Niasse, Tosun & DCL are good enough to take this team forward are well and truly deluded. I won't even start with the defence. Blaming Silva for this shambles is out of order, but you have to set your team up to play to their strengths, regardless of your 'philosophy.'
Maybe the new CEO will get a grip of things, that's if she's not kipping in the Park End this weekend for another charidee??
21 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:06:14
Still, early days in the Silva era, and we have to give him plenty of time to make something of this team.
The worrying thing for me last week, was the lack of movement in the team. Surely a team playing at this level can at least show for the ball, and move into space. It's basic coaching, but we don't seem to be able to even do that.
22 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:09:05
Tony, didnt Moyes suggest that Smalling et al watch Jagielka no one else? And, to be fair, Jags is the best defender weve had in decades and I would choose a 25 year old Jags against Smalling all day long.
I dont know how true that story is or if its paper talk but Moyes could set us up defensively better than any manager we have had in a long time.
23 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:10:11
24 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:19:26
25 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:21:17
I hope that one day things will change but you could bet your house on today not being that day.
26 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:27:07
How about the players start doing some bloody running and hard yakka?
Or do they need someone telling them to do that also?
How many managers do we need to go through before the buck stops with the players shite attitudes?
Id love to see Tim Cahill on that pitch today or Lee Carsley they would tolerate piss fart attempts from those in blue shirts.
Sadly thats not going to happen.
27 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:49:50
28 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:57:41
There aren't that many seniors left.
29 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:13:28
Conceeding 3 would be an improvement on last season against this lot. 5 under Koeman and another 5 following the tactics of the defensive maestro himself.
Not looking forward to this one bit.
30 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:29:14
I'm already going off him. All this shite about telling the players not to concede goals - what? They're not fucking 5yr olds. The guy is Martinez MkII from what we've seen so far this season, and while I hope I'm proved completely wrong, I have zero faith in him. He stood on the sideline exactly like Martinez did last week against West Ham and watched us lose doing bugger all about it.
RS Lawro has us down for a 2-0 loss today and I'd say that's being generous.
31 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:35:34
32 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:39:40
33 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:42:50
Thank fuck you two don't play for Everton !
What odds will you give me Andrew for an Everton win today since you are so certain?
34 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:53:47
35 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:55:40
As Eddie says above it was suicidal defending pushing the wing backs so far forward against West Ham . I couldnt believe what I was seeing, how exposed we were.
We have pace and the goal threat it brings, there is no need for kamikaze tactics. Anyway, Digne looks capable of firing in a few killer crosses from slightly deeper . JJK can fire in a decent cross too.
I take the point of a world class CF would make a huge difference to us, but Tosun or Calvert-Lewin has to make the step up. The have to be worthy of being in an attack flanked by Walcott and Richarlison.
Arsenal are currently the weakest of the Sky6 and we can get back on track with a win there.
36 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:59:45
Ah, yeah! Those championship and cup winning players must not want to try something new to break up their winning ways?!?!
If true, its a fucking disgrace and I hope Brands steps in and tells them if theyre not happy, they can go in January. Thats if their agents can get some other fucking mug to pay them the daft fucking wages we do!
That said, Ill remain calm coz its a rumour in a dog-turd paper!
Cant see a clean sheet today. Just attack the fuckers! We never win there anyway, may as well go there fighting...
37 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:02:50
If you can't the heat, get out of the kitchen.
38 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:16:08
Im not sure bookies should even bother trying to give odds on Everton wins away to Arsenal.
What other sport would someone gamble money on an event that hasnt happened since 1996?
39 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:19:18
I did say way back when he was appointed I would not be surprised if he was sacked by January, but that is because the owner we now have in control has invested so much money in the "project".
There is really only one way to find out if Silva is as good a coach / manager as those in football reckons he is and that is to give him time.
It will take a few transfer windows to sort his own team.
Yes, we should have won out first two games being two nil up in both and on this occasions Silva was a touch niave for me.
Against West Ham, we were wide open but even then if we had taken our chances we would have won.
I think today we will score and Silva has been drilling players all week on their defensive responsibilities so I am hopeful we can go to Arsenal and get a result for the first time in many years.
6/1 in the bookies is worth a £10 for me.
Come on Everton.
40 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:36:52
Far to early to decide about Silva he needs time like any manager, getting anything out of the rubish left to him would be a miracle three managers have failed and imo the best managers in the world would struggle with them.
We will never agree with everything the manager does but at least lets give him the time he needs to produce a squad and team and get his ideas across.
41 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:51:43
So far I havent seen anything to be optimistic about. But I will give Silva time. A new manager has to have at least two/ three seasons to get things right ( unless hes an absolute disaster). When all of the players are fit and have had three or four games together we will get a better picture of where we are.
42 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:55:42
I'll have you know you are crossing swords with a man who played for the legendary Cambo in Division 8 of the Liverpool Sunday League and therefore not one to be trifled with. More importantly, I'm a season ticket holder and have watched this shower of misfits struggle under 4 managers to justify their selection. Instead of moaning about the manager's training schedule, they should be looking at themselves.
43 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:09:29
I feel the imbalance in midfield doesn't help either. Schneiderlin and Gana has never worked, and never will. Gana is a great 'destroyer' but below average with the ball at his feat and erratic with his positioning. Schneiderlin is more composed on the ball, but maybe a bit static and doesn't press.
How we need a 30-year-old Barry – someone with experience and discipline, good on the ball and just enough 'dirty' to make life difficult for the opposition. Like Milner for Liverpool at the moment.
44 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:16:23
We need our players to play with confidence and attack Arsenal because we sure cant defend. Try following the Wolves example instead of rolling over for a change.
45 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:24:48
As manager of Leeds United Don Revie's philosophy was, "if the other team don't score we can't lose" It was temporally succesful but led to other clubs adopting the same dogma. Then followed a decade of the most boring negative crap that saw Crowd numbers plummet.
To encourage more goals and a return of excitement the FA modified the laws of the game.
There has to be a balance between defending and attack and that has beeen Everton's downfall.
For many years our strikers have not scored enough goals to take the pressure of our defenders. We have too often been a single goal from defeat or a draw.
46 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:25:04
So said Pickford!!
I wonder whether he meant horizontal?
Just a thought!
47 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:33:56
"Are we any better off (points wise) than this time last year?"
We had 4 points after 5 games last year but we'd already played Chelsea, Manchester City and Manchester United away and Spurs at home.
Work in progress or not, our total of 6 points from the fixtures we've had so far is well below par - regardless of who the manager is.
48 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:59:47
We drew against Southampton, won against W Ham and Huddersfield and lost at Bournemouth.
We can't compare the draw at Wolves as we didn't play them but so far we got 5 points from these matches whereas last season we managed 7. As Marcus points out we still have Chelsea, ManUre, Shitteh and Spurs to look forward to.
49 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:31:33
50 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:39:03
If we dont start wasting teams like Fulham, West Ham at home then its going to be a winter of discontent.
52 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:39:32
What the hell is going on at EFC??? I was so optimistic before the season started.
53 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:43:00
Ray #22, agree with you on Moyes, but much as I love Jags, I'd rank him behind both Baines and Lescott as the "best defender weve had in decades"-- and that's only two decades. If we go three he falls behind Watson and Ratcliffe as well. (BTW West Ham has also turned up against Chelsea today, 0-0 as I write this.)
Paul T, ouch, mate, that's the most acidic post I've ever seen from you. Bad mood today? Or an inkling of impending doom?
54 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:43:51
55 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:54:31
56 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:55:22
But I am with Oliver on this one, I see no reason why we cannot get amou got Arsenal and give it a go.
It was only a few seasons back when Martinez took a team there and we played them off the park with Arsenal struggling to even get hold of the ball, damned unlucky to only come away with a 1 all draw, but if we set up the same and have a bloody go, you just never know.
Pay them respect and back off and they will pick us off, we need to get into them and have a damn good go.
57 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:58:33
Silva probably not and I never said he did, but some players do look at this forum and others I can assure you, and ToffeeWeb would reflect opinion in general.
However, make no mistake Silva and Brands would be aware of social media forums opinions on the manager and his tactics through the club.
58 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:58:56
My acidic response was a build up from a few weeks of reading short-sighted, premature judgements of Silva, combined with the annual re-writing of our history under Moyes and his magnificent team of non-achievers.
I feel even better now. See you on the forum!
59 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:04:25
That's why we can be easy to play through and it won't change until the team has a strong spine.
60 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:14:55
That's really cheered me up
And Dave (55) that just made me feel worse - watched Maddison last night on MOTD and thought he bossed the game.
61 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:22:13
I always appreciate your knowledgeable responses on here but think that, purely from a defensive point of view, that Jagielka was better than Baines or Lescott.
Baines is only half the player he was without Pienaar and his big selling point was his attacking prowess. Lescott was no better than Jagielka but scored goals. And he couldn't wait to jump ship.
Of course, if we go back 35 years, Ratters was better than all of them! (I wasn't really going back that far!!!)
62 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:39:13
Or, he will need at least three windows to bring in better players and address the culture of mediocrity that appears to have infected the club for many years.
63 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:46:29
64 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:47:00
I will not pass judgement 10 minutes into the game, for a stray pass or whatever.
For once, let's be positive and get behind the lads for 90 mins, and deal with jubilation or post mortem after the final whistle.
67 Posted 23/09/2018 at 17:18:08
Also, Jonjoe Kenny's defending is so indecisive it's embarrassing for the kid – he doesn't know whether to come or go and, more often than not, makes the wrong choice.
69 Posted 24/09/2018 at 02:18:10
Calvert-Lewin and Davies are not good enough to make an impact in the Premier League.
As I have said many times, we should have kept Rooney, Mirallas, and Bolasie and sent Calvert-Lewin, Davies, and Lookman out on loan.
70 Posted 24/09/2018 at 13:42:38
So, is it all Silva's fault? And before anyone cites his records at Hull and Watford, I think it's important to realise that Hull were a lost cause before he took over but by heck they came close to salvaging themselves under his brief time there, which would have been a fantastic achievement. As it was, it was merely impressive. At Watford, until Everton came-a-calling he led a very impressive turn-around too.
Here, unfortunately, he's evidently therefore dealing with a different mindset among many of them still around Finch Farm, players and staff. That's a complacent, comfy, losing mindset IMHO and, until that changes, we're in for more of the same as the last three seasons have delivered.
71 Posted 25/09/2018 at 17:31:15
72 Posted 25/09/2018 at 18:03:17
73 Posted 26/09/2018 at 00:54:14
A backline of Coleman, Mina, Keane and Digne hasn't even had the chance to train together, let alone play a match together; this shows us how early it is in the season.
Mina is on his way back but Coleman is injured.
Keane has just returned from a fractured skull.
Digne has had Zouma next to him in his few games, I'm sure next week that will change to Mina.
Basically he's had a makeshift backline containing 2 good prospects in Holgate (who would be my Number 3 ahead of Zouma) and Kenny who is now back in due to injury to Coleman. On top of that, had Mina or/and Keane been fit, Holgate may have rivalled or replaced Kenny in certain games at right back.
This season should be a walkover for Silva, so long as we don't finish outside of top 12 positions; he needs time to build up a poor Everton team.
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