Silva targets greater defensive solidity

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Marco Silva says that he is working hard with his players towards building a culture of keeping clean sheets at Everton.

The Portuguese has overseen six matches in all competitions since taking charge of the Blues but has seen his team concede in each one of them.

Much of the debate before last Sunday centred around his preference for zonal marking at set-pieces but the three goals Everton shipped last weekend against West Ham all came from open play… with “open” being the operative word when it came the midfield and defence.

Silva addressed the zonal marking debate on Soccer Saturday, saying: “It's normal the fans ask — they don't like the team conceding. It's not because you mark zonal or man to man.

“Last season here they had zonal [marking] with one coach and man-to-man with another and they conceded goals in the same way.”

The 41-year-old has drawn early comparisons with Roberto Martinez, the former Blues boss who became infamous for his emphasis on attack, seemingly at the expense of the defensive side of the game, but irrespective of how the goals have gone in against Everton, Silva says that he is impressing on his players how important it is to him that they develop a mentality of wanting to keep clean sheets.

“My players know that my philosophy will be offensive but something I really like, and something I haven't felt yet this season, is winning with a clean sheet,” he explained in the Liverpool Echo.

“If you don't concede the goals, with our normal way of playing, then we will be closer to winning the matches.

“It is something I have told them, not once, twice but more than five or six times because it is something important for me, important for us as a squad and something I want to create with them: this desire and enjoying not conceding goals.

“For us to have a clean sheet, everything must start in our attack line.

“I don't look at the squad and break it into sectors… If you can create connections between [the players] and having the same backline every match, it will be better. But [a squad is] like a block, it is not just about our backline and goalkeeper when we concede a goal."

 

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Colin Glassar
1 Posted 23/09/2018 at 07:47:46
The s*n spreading rumours about “senior players” revolting against Silva and his methods. True or false?
Frank Sheppard
2 Posted 23/09/2018 at 07:52:29
His methodology seems very different, but the much maligned Moyes focussed on defensive solididity as the spring board to exceeding most pundits expectations. Not a lot, if any progess since those days in my opinion, despite spending fortunes.
Jim Bennings
3 Posted 23/09/2018 at 08:27:31
Frank

It does appear sometimes that league positions wise progress has stood still or even gone backwards since the middle part of the Moyes era.

The league hasn’t changed that much, the top 4 clubs were still usually head and shoulders above the rest but the biggest concern for me is we have fallen further behind the top 6 (of which under Moyes we used to be a regular part of).

Manchester City since 2010 have understandably left most trailing in their dust but we are now spending roughly on a par with say Tottenham and we still can’t get near challenging.

It feels like looking back the Motes era did bring with it a level of stability if nothing else, we knew there was a glass ceiling but we knew we had the capabilities to challenge seriously for the top 5.

Everton as a club need a long period of stability now to start finding out exactly where it wants to be going and back up this lavish spending every summer with actually some positive progress on the pitch.

Is Silva is good enough to bring that stability over that time? Who knows but really we need to keep him here to find out.

It’s one thing spending money like there’s no tomorrow but sooner or later it has to have something to show for it rather than modest top 7 or 8 finishes with that glass ceiling starting it’s formation for us again.

P.S.
A clean sheet might be a bloody good start too at some point!

Jon Withey
4 Posted 23/09/2018 at 08:36:44
If we lose Silva we will end up with Moyes again. Not the end of the world perhaps.

It was only last week that all the players were banging on about how great the new regime was.

Stick with him. Getting very bored of this new Everton which can't stick with a manager.

Alan J Thompson
5 Posted 23/09/2018 at 08:56:11
"I've told them not once, twice, but more than five or six times".

Can't stick with a Manager? I think we need a Manager with a big stick.

Mike Gaynes
6 Posted 23/09/2018 at 08:58:56
Colin, the Sun piece claims some players feel Silva works them too hard and tasks them with too much information.

Awww, ain't that tough.

But hey, it's well below the headline about the psychic predicting more trouble in the Rooney marriage, so this one won't keep me up tonight.

Tony Abrahams
7 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:02:55
Probably true Colin. Moyes asked the serial winners of Manchester United, to study the serial losers of Everton, and with it, I presume went his job?

In saying that though, last weeks formation, or the manner in which both fullbacks were both going forward at the same time, was totally unacceptable for top level football, so maybe the players have a point?

I’m looking forward to today’s game, Ive been looking forward to seeing how the manager and his players respond to last week. I know it’s early days, but I honestly think we might learn a lot today?

Stephen Bird
8 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:03:33
Freddie Starr ate my hamster
Jim Bennings
9 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:05:02
Alan#5

I don’t think our players are the quickest learners are they?

Maybe one reason why no manager seems to be able to get anything through to them.

Frank Sheppard
10 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:11:13
Jim.
Good points well made.
I also thinks it would be beneficial if we could make some purchases that initially go under the radar, and don’t cost fortunes, but turn out to gems, such as Cahill, or Baines, or Pienar etc. Be great to have some players again that make their name with us, or enhance their reputation, rather than come to us as “stars” and don’t work out .
Alan J Thompson
11 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:25:16
Jim(#9); And possibly managers who are not the best teachers as they all seem to make the same mistakes with the same players and what he says, as above, appears no more than the bleedin' obvious, certainly nothing of any depth.

"My players know my philosophy is offensive" (not to be confused with downright bloody rude)...."but if you don't concede goals then you are closer to winning matches".

Mike Kehoe
12 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:34:21
Things would be so different if we had proven scorer, the chances missed against West Ham and Huddersfield have exposed the defensive frailties and take the focus away from big improvements in terms of style. It will take three good windows to be in a position to start judging. With the bad results of recent weeks and the trepidation of playing Arsenal it is easy to overlook the positives. Could be worse, the shite could be doing really well.
Jerome Shields
13 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:43:12
I hope I am wrong but it’s seems that Silva has no defensive strategy or tactics other than leaving the responsibility to the players who he has selected to play in defensive positions. Telling them that they must not concede goals is not good enough. What is the strategy to defend against Set pieces and crosses , which have resulted in most of the conceded goals. This could explain what looks like a failure to address such weaknesses game on game. I am flabbergasted.
Joe McMahon
14 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:43:26
Frank, that's a good point about under the radar players. It's just a shame that with those players including Lescott, who was great that we still didn't really achieve anything in a much weaker premier League era. Opportunity missed looking back.
James Hughes
15 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:45:39
Alan J, how very true. The managers we have had recently keep making the same mistakes.Like pairing Gana & Sideways in the middle. Not teaching them how to defend at set pieces or string more than two passes together.

Never mind roll on 4.00 pm think I will get some birch twigs to compound the misery. Up the blues

Mark Tanton
16 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:46:56
If it’s true that there are the players who are not cooperating with the new regime then they need to be shipped out. They’ve got a series of managers the sack so this time let’s stick with the head guy and get rid of the players..
Eugene Kearney
17 Posted 23/09/2018 at 09:51:50
I hope this "revolt", as reported in a few articles on the news feed, is just a bit of moaning that has been blown out of proportion.

I know our rebuilding will take at least a year (at least) before we'd be ready to be able to challenge the Top 6 or top 4 or whatever, but the last thing we want now is a mutiny.
It irks me that we are 12th at the moment. Another loss and will we see people wanting Silva gone??

Are we any better off (points wise) than this time last year? It was in October that we sacked Koeman. I hope we find the "buzz" that we had in the first couple of games and get a result today.
We need two Brazilians on the pitch!!

Gerard Carey
18 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:01:54
That's great Marco, when do you start. Because the defence has been brutal so far.
A clean sheet against arsenal today would definitely be a good start. Can anyone see that happening though.
Ray Roche
19 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:02:01
Joe@14

It was the lack of a proven goalscorer that cost us. The closest we came to silverware was the Final and our best striker for years, the 48 year old Yakubu was injured.

Kevin Tully
20 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:04:51
Koeman & Walsh should never be let anywhere near any football club again. £250m is all it takes to ruin a decent side, with chairman Bill happily putting in his 'picks' as well.

Anyone who thinks Niasse, Tosun & DCL are good enough to take this team forward are well and truly deluded. I won't even start with the defence. Blaming Silva for this shambles is out of order, but you have to set your team up to play to their strengths, regardless of your 'philosophy.'

Maybe the new CEO will get a grip of things, that's if she's not kipping in the Park End this weekend for another charidee??

Denny Kerr
21 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:06:14
When we see a headline like that before a game, we just know we're going to ship goals in the match. I hate to be negative, but if you know your history

Still, early days in the Silva era, and we have to give him plenty of time to make something of this team.

The worrying thing for me last week, was the lack of movement in the team. Surely a team playing at this level can at least show for the ball, and move into space. It's basic coaching, but we don't seem to be able to even do that.

Ray Roche
22 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:09:05
Tony @7
Tony, didn’t Moyes suggest that Smalling et al watch Jagielka no one else? And, to be fair, Jags is the best defender we’ve had in decades and I would choose a 25 year old Jags against Smalling all day long.
I don’t know how true that story is or if it’s paper talk but Moyes could set us up defensively better than any manager we have had in a long time.
Pat Kelly
23 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:10:11
I think there's a disconnect between the manager and players. I'm not sure they understand him. He talks gobbledygook, very much like Martinez.
Stan Schofield
24 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:19:26
Mike@6: Reminds me of newspaper reports when Klopp took over at Liverpool, that players were saying it was a challenge getting used to his style and intense 'gegenpressing'. When asked about it, he said, yes, it will take some time, but they will get used to it, because they are young professional footballers. Seems they have indeed finally got used to it, and solved some of their major defensive issues. I'm not saying our situation is identical, but it may be a cautionary story to indicate giving a manager adequate time in a new regime.
Andrew Clare
25 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:21:17
Unfortunately Everton don’t do surprises. Arsenal will win scoring at least 3 goals.
I hope that one day things will change but you could bet your house on today not being that day.
Jim Bennings
26 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:27:07
Pat

How about the players start doing some bloody running and hard yakka?
Or do they need someone telling them to do that also?

How many managers do we need to go through before the buck stops with the players shite attitudes?

I’d love to see Tim Cahill on that pitch today or Lee Carsley they would tolerate piss fart attempts from those in blue shirts.

Sadly that’s not going to happen.

Paul Tran
27 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:49:50
By 'senior players', do they mean the old lags who havent won anything, who wet their pants when we get near something resembling achievement?
Eddie Dunn
28 Posted 23/09/2018 at 10:57:41
Just who could the "senior" players be? Those who have been here for ages like Coleman, Baines and Jags, or does it also include people like Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson and Walcott? Perhaps Stek doesn't like running?
There aren't that many seniors left.
Mike Keating
29 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:13:28
Andrew @ 25
Conceeding 3 would be an improvement on last season against this lot. 5 under Koeman and another 5 following the tactics of the defensive maestro himself.
Not looking forward to this one bit.
James Marshall
30 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:29:14
He's already spouting like Bobby used to about offence being the starting point for defence, which is all well & good, but if you concede goals consistently like we do, it all amounts to nothing - hot air, waffle, ala Martinez.

I'm already going off him. All this shite about telling the players not to concede goals - what? They're not fucking 5yr olds. The guy is Martinez MkII from what we've seen so far this season, and while I hope I'm proved completely wrong, I have zero faith in him. He stood on the sideline exactly like Martinez did last week against West Ham and watched us lose doing bugger all about it.

RS Lawro has us down for a 2-0 loss today and I'd say that's being generous.

Christopher Marston
31 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:35:34
Everton haven’t played ‘tactically’ since Moyes left. For the last 5 years there’s been no shape, no vision, no depth. The players must not be used to having a footballing equivalent of the National Curriculum cos they’re all Special Needs and eternal losers.
Tony Twist
32 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:39:40
Some rumour being passed on by the s*n that the players are revolting not a truer word said!...because of Silva's methods, they have got a bloody cheek if true. I am sick of modern day footballers thinking that they are hard done by. If the players did their job we wouldn't be on our fourth manager. Clean sheet would be a miracle against arsenal only due to the fact most modern players believe the hype and are defeated before they even start the match but nothing but a win will do today, a draw is not enough after the previous two home results. COYB.
Oliver Molloy
33 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:42:50
Andrew @ 25 and Mike @ 29,

Thank fuck you two don't play for Everton !
What odds will you give me Andrew for an Everton win today since you are so certain?

Andrew Clare
34 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:53:47
Oliver#33, I’m not a gambler and I hate to be so pessimistic but do you really see us getting anything out of this game?
Tony Everan
35 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:55:40
It’s wrong to be blinkered and plough on regardless of reality. To some extent the system we play has to fit the players at our disposal .

As Eddie says above it was suicidal defending pushing the wing backs so far forward against West Ham . I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, how exposed we were.

We have pace and the goal threat it brings, there is no need for kamikaze tactics. Anyway, Digne looks capable of firing in a few killer crosses from slightly deeper . JJK can fire in a decent cross too.

I take the point of a world class CF would make a huge difference to us, but Tosun or Calvert-Lewin has to make the step up. The have to be worthy of being in an attack flanked by Walcott and Richarlison.

Arsenal are currently the weakest of the Sky6 and we can get back on track with a win there.

Winston Williamson
36 Posted 23/09/2018 at 11:59:45
Player revolt?
Ah, yeah! Those championship and cup winning players must not want to try something new to break up their winning ways?!?!

If true, it’s a fucking disgrace and I hope Brand’s steps in and tells them if they’re not happy, they can go in January. That’s if their agent’s can get some other fucking mug to pay them the daft fucking wages we do!

That said, I’ll remain calm coz it’s a rumour in a dog-turd paper!

Can’t see a clean sheet today. Just attack the fuckers! We never win there anyway, may as well go there fighting...

Colin Malone
37 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:02:50
Give notice to the senior players, Marco, and stay in mid-table wilderness.

If you can't the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Jim Bennings
38 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:16:08
Oliver Molloy

I’m not sure bookies should even bother trying to give odds on Everton wins away to Arsenal.

What other sport would someone gamble money on an event that hasn’t happened since 1996?

Oliver Molloy
39 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:19:18
Yes I do Andrew, huge game for us today with Silva already under pressure on ToffeeWeb ( unfairly in my opinion ).
I did say way back when he was appointed I would not be surprised if he was sacked by January, but that is because the owner we now have in control has invested so much money in the "project".

There is really only one way to find out if Silva is as good a coach / manager as those in football reckons he is and that is to give him time.
It will take a few transfer windows to sort his own team.

Yes, we should have won out first two games being two nil up in both and on this occasions Silva was a touch niave for me.
Against West Ham, we were wide open but even then if we had taken our chances we would have won.

I think today we will score and Silva has been drilling players all week on their defensive responsibilities so I am hopeful we can go to Arsenal and get a result for the first time in many years.
6/1 in the bookies is worth a £10 for me.
Come on Everton.

Karl Meighan
40 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:36:52
If these players cannot take onboard footballing instructions get rid, if it is true they don't deserve to be pro's nevermind playing for are great Club.

Far to early to decide about Silva he needs time like any manager, getting anything out of the rubish left to him would be a miracle three managers have failed and imo the best managers in the world would struggle with them.

We will never agree with everything the manager does but at least lets give him the time he needs to produce a squad and team and get his ideas across.

Andrew Clare
41 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:51:43
Well I hope you are right Oliver it’s about time we won this fixture.
So far I haven’t seen anything to be optimistic about. But I will give Silva time. A new manager has to have at least two/ three seasons to get things right ( unless he’s an absolute disaster). When all of the players are fit and have had three or four games together we will get a better picture of where we are.
Mike Keating
42 Posted 23/09/2018 at 12:55:42
Oliver @ 33
I'll have you know you are crossing swords with a man who played for the legendary Cambo in Division 8 of the Liverpool Sunday League and therefore not one to be trifled with. More importantly, I'm a season ticket holder and have watched this shower of misfits struggle under 4 managers to justify their selection. Instead of moaning about the manager's training schedule, they should be looking at themselves.
Fran Mitchell
43 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:09:29
We need to shore up, conceding from corners, and so often, is just unacceptable. Hopefully Mina can come in and have that 'Van Dijk' impact.

I feel the imbalance in midfield doesn't help either. Schneiderlin and Gana has never worked, and never will. Gana is a great 'destroyer' but below average with the ball at his feat and erratic with his positioning. Schneiderlin is more composed on the ball, but maybe a bit static and doesn't press.

How we need a 30-year-old Barry – someone with experience and discipline, good on the ball and just enough 'dirty' to make life difficult for the opposition. Like Milner for Liverpool at the moment.

Ray Roche
44 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:16:23
All the negativity shown on here mirrors the negativity shown on West Ham forums last week. Thing is, WHU turned up, something we rarely do at Arsenal.
We need our players to play with confidence and attack Arsenal because we sure can’t defend. Try following the Wolves example instead of rolling over for a change.
Dick Fearon
45 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:24:48
To park the bus in tonights game would be suicidal.
As manager of Leeds United Don Revie's philosophy was, "if the other team don't score we can't lose" It was temporally succesful but led to other clubs adopting the same dogma. Then followed a decade of the most boring negative crap that saw Crowd numbers plummet.
To encourage more goals and a return of excitement the FA modified the laws of the game.

There has to be a balance between defending and attack and that has beeen Everton's downfall.
For many years our strikers have not scored enough goals to take the pressure of our defenders. We have too often been a single goal from defeat or a draw.

Rob B Williams
46 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:25:04
“But if I remember rightly, with Ronald Koeman we went half-zonal.'

So said Pickford!!

I wonder whether he meant horizontal?
Just a thought!

Marcus Taylor
47 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:33:56
Eugene #17

"Are we any better off (points wise) than this time last year?"

We had 4 points after 5 games last year but we'd already played Chelsea, Manchester City and Manchester United away and Spurs at home.

Work in progress or not, our total of 6 points from the fixtures we've had so far is well below par - regardless of who the manager is.

Mike Keating
48 Posted 23/09/2018 at 13:59:47
Good point Marcus - if we look at the teams we have struggled against so far this season compared to last, it does not make for encouraging reading.
We drew against Southampton, won against W Ham and Huddersfield and lost at Bournemouth.
We can't compare the draw at Wolves as we didn't play them but so far we got 5 points from these matches whereas last season we managed 7. As Marcus points out we still have Chelsea, ManUre, Shitteh and Spurs to look forward to.
John Davies
49 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:31:33
So allegedly some of our brilliant, multiple trophy winning players aren't getting on with the current manager. I assume they didn't get on with Allardyce, Unsworth, Koeman and Martinez either because they got all those guys bulleted. If there are dissenters in the camp they should all be told to fuck off and continue their fraudulent, overpaid careers somewhere else.
Jim Bennings
50 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:39:03
If we are talking about fixtures before Christmas we still have (after Arsenal today) to travel to Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, Anfield and the Etihad and also a home game against perennial bogey side (yes another one) Tottenham in December.

If we don’t start wasting teams like Fulham, West Ham at home then it’s going to be a winter of discontent.

Roy Steel
52 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:39:32
We pissed about something awful during the Yarmolenko saga, a real quality player who strikes terror into defenders — mostly our own! And guess what, he signs for shitty West Ham before us!!!

What the hell is going on at EFC??? I was so optimistic before the season started.

Mike Gaynes
53 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:43:00
Oliver #39, love your optimism about today's game, but any idea that Silva is "under pressure on ToffeeWeb" wildly overinflates our importance. I assure you that Silva spends absolutely zero time perusing this board.

Ray #22, agree with you on Moyes, but much as I love Jags, I'd rank him behind both Baines and Lescott as the "best defender we’ve had in decades"-- and that's only two decades. If we go three he falls behind Watson and Ratcliffe as well. (BTW West Ham has also turned up against Chelsea today, 0-0 as I write this.)

Paul T, ouch, mate, that's the most acidic post I've ever seen from you. Bad mood today? Or an inkling of impending doom?

Clive Rogers
54 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:43:51
Ray, #22, I heard he had their midfielders watching Osman videos also.
Dave McDowell
55 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:54:31
I cannot get my head around constantly playing two CDM and yet we concede goals for fun. Does anyone believe we have anything other than a bottom three central midfield hub in choosing from Schneiderlin, Gueye or Davies? I think only the Barcodes and Cardiff have lesser effective choices. Our trio offer no goal threat (I mean for us), no guile, no killer passes and no leadership. It seems we will not get Gomes literally up and running until late October. Since Barry left this lack of central midfield creativity has killed us. Look at the kid Leicester signed, Maddison, we were supposedly in for him, he's a constant goal threat and has stepped up in a team of characters. Did you watch Wolves midfield take the game to United? I do believe in Silva and I know he could not change the whole squad but in center mid we need a leader and one creative box to box with a goal threat. Every past successful Everton team had this pairing, has the game changed that much? Matches are mainly won in the middle of the park. Rant over. Prove me wrong today and I will gladly swallow the whole humble pie.
Brian Wilkinson
56 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:55:22
Our last couple of fixtures have rightly been horrendous as some posters have pointed out, 20 odd years since we last got a result there.

But I am with Oliver on this one, I see no reason why we cannot get amou got Arsenal and give it a go.

It was only a few seasons back when Martinez took a team there and we played them off the park with Arsenal struggling to even get hold of the ball, damned unlucky to only come away with a 1 all draw, but if we set up the same and have a bloody go, you just never know.

Pay them respect and back off and they will pick us off, we need to get into them and have a damn good go.

Oliver Molloy
57 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:58:33
Mike,
Silva probably not and I never said he did, but some players do look at this forum and others I can assure you, and ToffeeWeb would reflect opinion in general.

However, make no mistake Silva and Brands would be aware of social media forums opinions on the manager and his tactics through the club.

Paul Tran
58 Posted 23/09/2018 at 14:58:56
Hi Mike, I'm in a cracking mood today, thanks, as I hope you are.

My acidic response was a build up from a few weeks of reading short-sighted, premature judgements of Silva, combined with the annual re-writing of our history under Moyes and his magnificent team of non-achievers.

I feel even better now. See you on the forum!

Paul Tran
59 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:04:25
Dave #55, it's dead simple. If we played two 'defensive' midfielders that were physically strong, had passing ability, a little bit of pace and at least the odd goal in rhem, we'd be fine. Unfortunately, we keep buying central midfield players who can only do one of those things. So they end up compensating for each other, troubling our defence and getting in the way of our forwards.

That's why we can be easy to play through and it won't change until the team has a strong spine.

Mike Keating
60 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:14:55
Thanks Jim (50)
That's really cheered me up
And Dave (55) that just made me feel worse - watched Maddison last night on MOTD and thought he bossed the game.
Ray Roche
61 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:22:13
Mike (#54),

I always appreciate your knowledgeable responses on here but think that, purely from a defensive point of view, that Jagielka was better than Baines or Lescott.

Baines is only half the player he was without Pienaar and his big selling point was his attacking prowess. Lescott was no better than Jagielka but scored goals. And he couldn't wait to jump ship.

Of course, if we go back 35 years, Ratters was better than all of them! (I wasn't really going back that far!!!)

Mike Kehoe
62 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:39:13
If we win today, Silva is an absolute genius and will surely lead us to European glory. If we lose, he can fuck right off because he is as thick as pig shit and another bullshit phenomenal moments merchant.

Or, he will need at least three windows to bring in better players and address the culture of mediocrity that appears to have infected the club for many years.

Mike Gaynes
63 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:46:29
Fair enough, Ray, although I'm talking about total game, not just defensive abilities. For pure defense, Hibbo is the best I've seen in the last 20 years. Positionally, tackling, awareness, he had it all.
Brian Wilkinson
64 Posted 23/09/2018 at 15:47:00
Cheer up, ya miserable buggers — we haven't even kicked off yet. Every Dog has its Day, let's hope today is ours.

I will not pass judgement 10 minutes into the game, for a stray pass or whatever.

For once, let's be positive and get behind the lads for 90 mins, and deal with jubilation or post mortem after the final whistle.

Joseph Murphy
67 Posted 23/09/2018 at 17:18:08
Everton's quality in this game and the last has been disgraceful. The sloppy passing, finishing and defending is unbelievable. I'd expect more from kids and these are professionals.

Also, Jonjoe Kenny's defending is so indecisive it's embarrassing for the kid – he doesn't know whether to come or go and, more often than not, makes the wrong choice.

Victor Yu
69 Posted 24/09/2018 at 02:18:10
Until we have a world class striker, we are going nowhere. Calvert-Lewin, Tosun, and Niasse are just not up to it.

Calvert-Lewin and Davies are not good enough to make an impact in the Premier League.

As I have said many times, we should have kept Rooney, Mirallas, and Bolasie and sent Calvert-Lewin, Davies, and Lookman out on loan.

Don Alexander
70 Posted 24/09/2018 at 13:42:38
Nobody knows what goes on at Finch Farm but it worries me that Silva, like his three predecessors (four if you include Unsworth, the guy who finishes the years-long development of our boys before they get into the squad), seems unable to get so many of them to do what I think should be second-nature to them, namely control, pass, move in a knowing enough way to win more points than they lose. Obviously this belief of mine is flawed.

So, is it all Silva's fault? And before anyone cites his records at Hull and Watford, I think it's important to realise that Hull were a lost cause before he took over but by heck they came close to salvaging themselves under his brief time there, which would have been a fantastic achievement. As it was, it was merely impressive. At Watford, until Everton came-a-calling he led a very impressive turn-around too.

Here, unfortunately, he's evidently therefore dealing with a different mindset among many of them still around Finch Farm, players and staff. That's a complacent, comfy, losing mindset IMHO and, until that changes, we're in for more of the same as the last three seasons have delivered.

Steve Ferns
71 Posted 25/09/2018 at 17:31:15
“we should have kept Rooney, Mirallas, and Bolasie” - I don’t think any other Everton fan will agree with you on all three of them. Especially the incredible sulk.
Mike Gaynes
72 Posted 25/09/2018 at 18:03:17
To say the least, Steve!
Simon Smith
73 Posted 26/09/2018 at 00:54:14
Silva has pointed to it being easier to keep clean sheets when the defence is the same in all (or most) matches, let be honest Mina was his main defensive buy so he is his Number 1 defender.

A backline of Coleman, Mina, Keane and Digne hasn't even had the chance to train together, let alone play a match together; this shows us how early it is in the season.

Mina is on his way back but Coleman is injured.

Keane has just returned from a fractured skull.

Digne has had Zouma next to him in his few games, I'm sure next week that will change to Mina.

Basically he's had a makeshift backline containing 2 good prospects in Holgate (who would be my Number 3 ahead of Zouma) and Kenny who is now back in due to injury to Coleman. On top of that, had Mina or/and Keane been fit, Holgate may have rivalled or replaced Kenny in certain games at right back.

This season should be a walkover for Silva, so long as we don't finish outside of top 12 positions; he needs time to build up a poor Everton team.

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