League Cup 4th Round Draw

Saturday, 29 September, 2018 43comments  |  Jump to last
The draw for the 4th Round of the Carabao League Cup has been made before Everton take on Southampton on Tuesday. The winner of the tie will travel to Leicester.

Round Four Carabao Cup Draw:

Manchester City vs Fulham
AFC Bournemouth vs Norwich City
Arsenal vs Blackpool
Leicester City vs Everton or Southampton
West Ham United vs Tottenham Hotspur
Middlesbrough vs Crystal Palace
Chelsea vs Derby County
Burton Albion vs Nottingham Forest

Ties will be played week commencing 29 October with two matches to be shown live on Sky Sports.

 

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Rob Halligan
1 Posted 29/09/2018 at 21:06:07
Leicester away in the League Cup, should we get past Southampton.
Jim Bennings
2 Posted 29/09/2018 at 21:17:58
Leicester away in the League Cup — if we beat Southampton of course!
David McMullen
3 Posted 29/09/2018 at 21:49:13
Bizarre time to have the draw.

Won't be easy. Let's see how we do against Southampton and then Leicester in the league first.

Jim Bennings
4 Posted 29/09/2018 at 22:02:01
If we beat Saints, it's two cracks at the King Power stadium in the space of three weeks, I'm looking to win at least one.
Peter Roberts
6 Posted 30/09/2018 at 11:22:56
Decent draw that. I think we need the luck of the draw if we want to win this one.
Sam Hoare
7 Posted 30/09/2018 at 13:10:22
I think that’s quite a tough draw. Only three or so permutations would have been harder. Leicester are in good form and tough to beat at home. Couple of tricky hurdles to clear in this cup.
Liam Reilly
9 Posted 30/09/2018 at 14:49:50
Forget Leicester and concentrate on Southampton on Tuesday.

Hughes should make changes but hopefully Silva will keep the side reasonably settled.

Paul Tran
10 Posted 30/09/2018 at 15:10:50
Let's win on Tuesday and then tackle Leicester. Similar team would do me, makes the changes if/when the game's won.

This will be my first game for almost 4 years, if anyone fancies a pint, I'll be in the Royal Oak.

Minik Hansen
11 Posted 30/09/2018 at 23:58:41
I bet on Tuesday, we'll see the likes of Holgate, Bernard, Stekelenburg (is that our 2nd keeper's name?? I forgot) and Lookman. I think if Southampton make changes to their line-up, the mentioned above will have a fair chance to have a go at them.
David Ellis
12 Posted 01/10/2018 at 05:36:55
Just avoid the top 6 clubs for as long as possible... there's still 4 of them in the tournament.
Craig Walker
13 Posted 01/10/2018 at 11:28:44
It's a pity that this is away from home, should we get through against Southampton. I'd have fancied us against Leicester at Goodison under the lights. I never fancy us away from home especially against another Premier League team.
Minik Hansen
14 Posted 01/10/2018 at 11:40:23
Craig, maybe that's gonna change any time soon, and maybe we'll be at Goodison Park for the 5th round! COYB.
Tom Bowers
15 Posted 01/10/2018 at 12:44:30
Whilst it would be nice to win all games it has to be stressed that this is still the Mickey Mouse cup and not really to be taken seriously. The managers of the Premier League clubs certainly don't take it seriously given the weakened team selections especially in these early rounds.

It is just, however a chance for the benchwarmers to get a run-out but generally there is little to be gauged from most performances. Everton will probably rest Richarlison after the rough treatment he got against Fulham.

Fran Mitchell
16 Posted 01/10/2018 at 12:53:42
I know some are desperate for 'silverware', but at the end of the day, Premier League position is more important – ask any Spurs fan what they prefer? When they were 7th but won the League Cup, or now when they are the 4th/3rd best team in the league.

Today, I would stick Tosun up front, play Bernard and Lookman for Richarlison and Walcott, and play Dowell for Sigurdsson. The defence needs to stay as is.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

17 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:05:12
Tom, this 'Micky Mouse' cup is one of the two trophies that gives Everton their best hope (rather than chance) of landing silverware in 24 years. It also guarantees Europa League qualification for next season.

The club, its supporters, needs silverware. I'll take the brickbats and insults of it being a 'Micky Mouse' cup (including from our own supporters, it would appear...) to see Everton parading the streets of Liverpool with a trophy again.

Brent Stephens
18 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:24:46
"It has to be stressed that this is still the Mickey Mouse cup and not really to be taken seriously".

"It has to be stressed", for us, it isn't a Mickey Mouse cup, and it should be taken seriously.

"The managers of the Premier League clubs certainly don't take it seriously given the weakened team selections especially in these early rounds."

But not for them.

Steve Carse
19 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:24:49
Jay, I don't think there'd be a homecoming for winning the League Cup. Now that would be embarrassing. But I agree that it's a trophy well worth winning. Isn't winning trophies the whole reason the club exists?

On a side note, what a shame extra time has been stopped in the competition. No logic to that at all.

John Keating
20 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:30:25
Tom, I guarantee that, if we get to the final of this "Mickey Mouse Cup" that's not to be taken seriously, our ticket allocation will sell in minutes. There will be as many who do not have tickets desperately trying to get them.

I've watched us win trophies since 1963, nothing beats it — and that includes "Mickey Mouse" ones!

Steve Ferns
21 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:37:30
Mickey Mouse cup? We've never won it. We haven't won anything since I was a child. If we win the Mickey Mouse Cup then most of us on here will be celebrating like we just won the lottery.

I don't care if it's the Simod Cup or the Zenith Data Cup, if it's a trophy all the Premier League clubs compete for, then let's win it.

Saints at home, then Leicester away, it sounds good to me.

Amit Vithlani
22 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:38:33
Brent @ 18 - I have it good authority (from my wife no less) that a Mickey Mouse Cup is a near physical impossibility. It could break the lady's back, were she so endowed.

[Hope I have not made a tit of myself, but I do like to keep abreast of such things.]

Tony Abrahams
23 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:44:59
Not many teams take it seriously, but it just so happens that the team that wins the Premier League, often win this cup in the same season...
Brent Stephens
24 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:50:43
Amit, just one cup would do, you might say!
Derek Knox
25 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:51:56
Does anyone know if the tie, the only one I am aware of on Tuesday night, apart from several Championship games, is being televised?

I have checked, and can't for the life of me see any mention of it anywhere on the scheduled televised match lists (apart from Bein Turkey).

I agree with Brent and many others who perceive this Cup (which we have never won under any of its many aliases) should be taken seriously. The fixtures have seen some of the 'big guns' shot down already.

If we do manage to win it, will we all be entitled to wear Mickey Mouse watches?

Kieran Kinsella
26 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:53:26
I feel like it is a pride thing. Average teams are embarrassed if they lose to say the Arsenal B team so they put out a weak team so it seems like they are not bothered. What a stupid attitude to have. It is a trophy with Europe as a prize.
Tom Bowers
27 Posted 01/10/2018 at 13:58:52
If it's that important, managers would pick their strongest teams.

The fact that you have mish-mash formations makes it Mickey Mouse!

Amit Vithlani
28 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:00:24
Agreed, Brent. I would do anything to get my hands on one cup.
Amit Vithlani
29 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:02:11
Derek @ 25, I believe Mickey Mouse watches were worn by the Refs who immortalised Fergie time.
Rob Halligan
30 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:10:20
Tom, should we get to the final of this "Mickey Mouse" cup, I assume you won't bother trying to get a ticket for the final.

If you do qualify for a ticket, please let me know as I know plenty of people who will willingly take it off your hands.

Paul Tran
31 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:16:33
Mickey Mouse Cup? Ask anyone stood on the Stratford End after Aston Villa did us in extra time injury time in the final's second replay.

I'd love us to win this cup, especially for those who haven't seen us lift a trophy.

Kieran Kinsella
32 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:18:27
Wenger was the one who started Mickey Mousing it by not picking a b team but like a C or D team. However, the organizers have since made a lot of accomodations for "big clubs" by eliminating replays, two-legged ties, extra-time, and letting the Euro clubs join a round late. Since then, the "big clubs" for the most part have taken it seriously with if not their BEST 11, at least an 11 of recognizable first team squad players.

Wenger himself lovingly embraced this trophy in his latter years, as did Fergie before him, not to mention Mourinho and Pelligrini. So bar a few-year period about 15 years ago, it really isn't a Mickey Mouse cup. If teams without European fixture congestion decide to throw it, then it is because their managers are idiots.

Rob Halligan
34 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:25:32
Previous winners since the turn of the century:

Spurs x 1
Liverpool x 2.
Chelsea x 3.
Man City x 3.
Man Utd x 4.

So that's 13 wins for five of the so called big six in the past 18 years, whilst Arsenal have lost in three finals.

Tom, if we can manage to win this cup this season, who knows what it could lead to?

Kieran Kinsella
35 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:43:22
Hughes is saying he wants his team to show more "Devilry". I am not sure what that means exactly but it is not a word that usually evokes "fair play."
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

36 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:46:17
Steve @ 19: 'I don't think there'd be a homecoming for winning the League Cup. Now that would be embarrassing.'

I bet there would be. And I'll have a huge beaming smile on my face at our 'embarrassment' if and when it happens.

Tom @ 27, continue calling the League Cup (and FA Cup, for that matter) a 'Mickey Mouse' cup all you like, based on the single justification you offer that many Premier League teams send out their 2nd string in these knock-out competitions.

That is indisputably true. You could certainly present a case that the FA and the League have devalued their own flagship knock-out competitions which were once held in huge prestige (certainly the FA Cup) by the drip-drip of competition changes down the years:

● Stopping immediate mid-week replay games for the FA Cup when the police insisted on being given more time to plan for such events;

● Stopping endless replays (Everton v Sheffield Wednesday, anyone..?) by introducing extra time and penalty shootouts after one replay.

● Stopping cup final replays and introducing extra time and penalties in a one-game final only.

● Extending that 'no replay' rule to the semi-finals and now to the quarter-finals (just last season);

● Stipulating that all semi-finals should be played at Wembley, rather than around the country as is the past (got to pay for the reconstructed Wembley somehow, eh?);

● Exempting teams who qualified from Europe from two early rounds.

So blame the FA and the Football League for 'devaluing' their own cup competitions and not insisting on 'full-strength teams', as was previously the case.

But before glibly applying the 'Micky Mouse' moniker to both competitions, take a good look at the list of winners since football was invented with the innovation of the Premier League. It is dominated by the 'elite' clubs you claim don't take the competition seriously.

Each season by default Everton theoretically can win one of three trophies (four, in those all too rare seasons we qualify for Europe).

The League and FA Cups present (currently) our best chances of opening the rusted lock of our trophy cabinet again.

Give me a day out at Wembley and an open-top bus parade around the city over a 5th to 15th league place finish any and every day of the week, ta very much.

Dave Abrahams
37 Posted 01/10/2018 at 14:46:32
Paul (31), that was the year the League Cup was first called the Mickey Mouse cup by guess who? Liverpool fans, because they had never got to the final themselves.
Justin Doone
38 Posted 01/10/2018 at 15:25:01
I don't care about the Kaboo Cup, keep the defence the same and alter the midfield and forward line-up. I want Lookman, Bernard and Dowell to start! Rest Richarlison, Davies and Gana.

Derek Knox
39 Posted 01/10/2018 at 15:48:14
Dave @37, who'd have thought the hypocritical RS fans would have Christened this trophy as it is widely referred to, under any of it's disguises?

And they call us bitter!

Tony Abrahams
40 Posted 01/10/2018 at 16:04:05
I can never accept that bitter shout off them, Derek, I've grown up alongside them mate, and I know how great they are at switchin the gear.
Jim Bennings
41 Posted 01/10/2018 at 19:31:02
No such thing as a Mickey Mouse Cup and fans who label it that are all the Johnny Come Lately brigade who think success is finishing 4th and getting buried in a Champions League Group of death.

Have we won any trophies in recent seasons?

Do they have the 8th Place Cup?

No and no.

Everton Football Club haven't had our hands on silverware since 1995 that's starting to majorly piss me off.

We probably won't get near lifting the FA Cup and we ain't gonna win the league so this League Cup should be our ambition to lift the mood.

I was brought up watching football when success meant seeing players lift trophies and have medals around their neck, not be lauded for finishing 4th, 5th or 6th best so long as it fills the coffers for the fat cats in charge.

Brian Murray
42 Posted 01/10/2018 at 20:14:57
Paul Tran.

I was in the Stretford End that night... in fact, all three games, the quarter-final at Man Utd, and the semi-final at Bolton. Heartbreaking as a kid. Even worse a month later, thanks to Clive Thomas. I'm still mentally scarred even now by our beloved toffs.

Both these cup games are winnable. Depends on proper attitude and team selection really.

Kieran Kinsella
43 Posted 01/10/2018 at 20:47:50
Jim Bennings,

I agree. Every now and then I remember Rideout's header lofted over Schmeichel in 1995, or Pat van den Hauwe of all people nailing the title at Norwich.

I don't often reflect on us creeping over the line to finish 4th in 2005 (I actually had to Google to check if it was 04 or 05) any more than I do finishing 4th in 1988 – that one I didn't have to Google because I remember it irking me so much that we ONLY finished 4th.

Now, 4th might mean more money than a cup but I have never flicked through the Rothman's Football Yearbook to check bank balances, just silverware.

Jim Bennings
44 Posted 01/10/2018 at 20:59:36
Kieran

Exactly!

Top 6 finishes only mean anything to the men in charge of football clubs where the big money is at.

The long-suffering fans would much rather see the team win a trophy and look back fondly at a year we won something.

As for the Champions League, well, the reality is it's not just a one-off season in the Champions League that this club needs, it would have to be a regular thing and become the norm and that's unlikely to happen.

So forgive me if I want to celebrate lifting an actual trophy over finishing in the top 6.

If we must get in the Europa League then I'd much rather it be through winning the Cup than finishing 6th or 7th, been there done that under Moyes, do we look back and think any better of him for it?

Jamie Crowley
45 Posted 01/10/2018 at 21:30:52
Amit @ 22 -

One of the breast comments I've read on TW!

Getting that proverbial coat as you say...,.

Ian Smitham
46 Posted 01/10/2018 at 22:06:52
Paul Tran #31, I was in the Scoreboard end that night and in fairness two Villa fans saw me screwed up in a corner crying my eyes out. They came over and had a few kind words. One of my first real experiences of the disappointments of following Everton.

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