Report: Palace express interest in Tosun

I cannot imagine Everton falling for this.

I didn't expect any serious business this time around.

Exciting days ahead.

Seems a nice guy and I've never seen him "coast" or not give effort. But he doesn't factor in Sliva's plans.

We'll do just fine for half a season or so with Calvert-Lewin up top, and Richarlison an option up there as well.

That's assuming we don't buy another striker. But if we do, I pray it's not a January "panic" buy. Sign quality. I'd prefer to see us sell Tosun and not replace, rather than sell and sign someone who can't come in and contribute almost immediately.

In Brands We Trust.

Where would Zaha play? He plays wide left. Keep Richarlison up top and Calvert-Lewin relegated to a sub role?

He's one of the players that guarantees you 100% effort. Centre-forward at Everton is a thankless task lately. Silva has far more pressing problems to address.

Why not?

What I would add is – if we allow a few out on loan and bring no one in, then we really must show patience with Silva. Only his second transfer window and not able to improve the team. I have no problem with that so long as he's given a chance in the summer.

It shows what a complete shitshow our club now is under Kenwright and Moshiri. Manager after manager allowed to spend huge sums of money on players and salaries yet we can never recoup a penny on any of them. We can't give our players away, never mind cash them in. What the fuck is going on? How much would Sigurdsson fetch these days if put on the market?

Is Richarlison worth 㿀 million now, from 㿙 million, or would he be a loan-type player these days?

Do we have any players at all in our squad that are saleable assets? Are PSG really daft enough to pay 㿊 large for Idrisa Gana Gueye??

I don't know wether to laugh or cry when fans post our wage bill and the names of our players simultaneously. Soul-destroying doesn't come into it... How on Earth was this allowed to happen? It's easy for us all to play Football Manager but some dope is responsible for signing off on these terrible deals at Everton, aren't they?

I only hope now for EFC to rid itself of all the deadwood is to do a special offer: You buy one, you get on free. Even then, there won't be many takers...

I want to judge Brands in three years... just as we get ready for the new stadium. There is an awful lot of shite to get rid of...

Dare I say it, Klopp has taken 3 years to make ‘them‘ an attractive proposition. I'm giving it until 2021-22 but, unlike some posters, I don't see the benefit in keeping players like this – just because he's better than anything else we have at present.

We aren't being relegated and we aren't going to Europe either. So ditch as much shit as we can now and learn from our mistakes, please.

By the way; I'm not arsed if Sílva stays or goes – Brands is the player here.

Until you suggested that Richarlison has halved his value since coming here! He's one of few shining lights currently plying his trade, currently playing out of position, who is the envy of many teams. Let's try to be constructive in our criticism and a little less sensational.

We over-spend on average players, pay them big wages. As a result, we need them off the books. All clubs know we're desperate to get them out, any means necessary, so they loan.

Besic, Bolasie, Tosun, Schneiderlin, Niasse, Martina, Williams, McCarthy are all players we should sell or have sold for nominal fees at least, but any interested club knows they can get 'em for free and subsidised wages, so why pay?

The result is we can't shift any of the dead wood.

If he was missing loads of sitters, I would condemn him, but strikers are judged on the amount of goals they score and, to do that, they need service.

That said, I couldn't agree more with Tony Marsh. Is there another club in world football who buys so consistently badly? We've done it for fucking years.

Take the transfer fees and wages of Willams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Pickford, Klaassen, Keane, Sigurdsson, Vlasic, Tosun, Walcott, Mina and Richarlison. That's approaching Five Hundred Million Quid — right there... and we are still needing to field three loanees in virtually every single match.

I am not a Tosun fan but, if we are not going to buy a top quality striker, then I don't see the point of loaning him out right now.

We need to fix a lot of things to allow any striker to make that much difference at Everton.

We do, however, need to get our top coach coaching the players we have better.

Patience and belief, please.

You say trim and keep the squad lean but, if Vlasic is to be believed and they are offered fry-ups every day, it's no wonder we are always half-a-yard behind even the likes of Bournemouth. Nothing surprises me anymore.

Tosun has ability as a finisher but has not fitted in to Silva's systems of play, or been given any real run in the team.

He could well bang in a good few goals for Palace working with Zaha up front; it's a gamble for them but not a forlorn one.

Sell... loan... whatever.

I also think that Tosun is treated harshly by many fans and the current manager. He is a pretty good player for me - hard working, good finisher, knows how to play up front and knows where the goal is. I agree, he is not lightning quick but he has enough pace to be effective.

It's certainly a better option than playing a young winger up front who is clearly not suited to it. Calvert-Lewin may play before Tosun if we change things but what if he gets injured?

Still, Everton in the Community are dishing out free hugs!

I still think we should have forced a sale on Niasse.

If they want to buy him fair enough if we have a replacement.

Fraser Hornby? Just rattling off the name of an untried youngster doesn't mean we have a striking solution.

Firstly, Hornby hasn't exactly lit up the U23s since he made his first-team debut over a year ago. Secondly, even if he had, it doesn't mean he is the answer.

Liam Walsh was superman for the U23s and didn't make it. Kieran Agard was "Player of the Year" for them – and then released on a free. David Henen, Phil Jevons, etc etc...

If anything, I would loan Hornby to Palace – if they'll have him! Then, if he proves good enough, we bring him back and bring him into our team. At the moment, he has no value, so if he fails on loan the status quo remains the same, if he does well he goes up in value.

Tosun has value; going on loan means he is closer to the end of his contract, thus worth less. He has also scored goals for us in the Premier League, as opposed to Hornby, Simms, etc who are as yet completely unproven at an adult level of any kind – much less the Premier League.

I know the players' wages are a problem to other clubs. So perhaps the players could take a pay cut, to play first-team football?

However, the alternative is sitting in the Reserves. Most players like the limelight that's why they all say they want to play Champions League.

We are never going to shift these players that go on loan. With no loaning out, a nice safety net would be removed (see Bolasie). Some of our players may take a cut to play for another Premier League team (Palace & Cardiff).

Reduce the price if necessary, but you want them off the books permanently, surely.

This is why Everton will not be buying in this January transfer window

One thing though: the Reserves are no more. I know what you mean but they simply no longer exist. Just the kids in the U23s. The older players on the fringe of the first team could play as up to 3 allowed over-age players but that seems exclusively something they may do for one game only when coming back from injury.

Okay, Brendan Galloway, 24, was an exception... but I think it's been a few months now since he played for them. I reckon Unsie's been told to freeze these guys out in an effort to get them to bug their agents for a move... but not on those juicy wages we're paying!!!

Brands is obviously trying to flog them but can't find a buyer. We are forced to loan them, even when the club say we won't loan anyone out, we will. As we have shown with Niasse.

Time to offload, even at a loss, but no more loans.

We will most likely finish this season 7th to 12th. That leaves Watford, Wolves, Leicester, West Ham and Bournemouth to compete for our heroes signatures. None of the "Sky six" would touch our failures with a bargepole.

Wolves have their own unique transfer structure. Watford go for more combative types. Leicester and West Ham have better players than we do and Bournemouth don't waste their cash like we do.

Can anyone remember the last player we fought another side to sign? (And won???)

I find it hard to believe that we are offering a full English in this day and age. I'm sure it's grilled and not from the local greasy spoon but even so. Doesn't sound very modern day at all.