Second consultation shows huge support for Everton's stadium plans

Good news but let's get it sorted on the pitch as well please. It's kind of hard being a blue in this city when your neighbours are European Champions and about to win the League. Let's have a team befitting the stadium

Clever coach clipperty! Knows how to put a team together. Don't like to write those words don't want to be a blind dog either.

Great support on the stadium and the development in general of the docklands area. Took a ride down BMD way while I was over on holiday & had taken in the Citeh game. Definitely needs the development.

Also, the development of the Goodison Park site is interesting and good for public support.

Well done to all those making this happen. We need some clever thinking to go in to putting the on pitch team together, too, as Anthony states.

For those of you who dared to dream and the doubting Thomas's this should come as a great relief.
It is going to happen !

The consultation results published on time and as scheduled in the BMD timeline.
Just as well we didn't lose against Southampton or the conspiracy theorists would be having a field day!

Great news but why are they bringing this out now ?

After all we won the last game

Bill, this torpedoes the conspiracy theorists who were bleating that this sort announcement is only released when the club requires something to divert attention from a crap performance. Thank God there is some positivity on here.

Having just bought my Lower Bullens letter box tickets for Chelsea I welcome this development.

All good. Still several years away but it's moving in the right direction.

Once completed we can all continue to moan about the limited capacity and surrounding area being bleak, poor parking, transportation links etc.

In the meantime the priority is the first team results, performances and winning / challenging for footballing honours each and every season.

Coincidentally that too looks to be several years away but also moving in the right direction, just as slowly, but definite progress.

The club have provided an “app” for IOS and Android tablets and phones. I have just downloaded it from the official site and looked at the views from “inside” the stadium.

It is absolutely terrific - it will be a bear pit.

Great news and a blow to the negative posters! I think this project is in safe hands- wish I could say the same about the football team.

Credit where its due.

Have to say that this has been meticulously thought through and with those numbers backing the development; one the planners will now find very difficult to refuse.

The echo has the timeline as planning submitted by end of year and hopefully a quick turnaround on the application being granted, given the huge level of support its received.

As soon as planning permission is granted they could break ground and then 3 years to complete.

So, obviously lots could go wrong, but potentially the ground could be ready some time in the first half of 2023?

"The consultation also reached 2,726 non-Everton fans, 24 per cent of whom said they had no interest in football".
Stone The Crows! So they found nearly 700 people on Merseyside who have no interest in football? WTF? Who are these people?
Anyway, it's all good. The prospect of our new home by the Mersey is a little ray of light in a pretty miserable pre-Brexit messed up UK.

Hopefully all systems soon will be go, just hope as other ageing supporters will, that we will be able to visit the Stadium and see it in reality.

December 2nd 2023 (a Saturday) will be the 60th anniversary of my first game at Goodison, could I be celebrating with my first visit to our new stadium.

Derek; I have two remaining ambitions.
One is to keep my name off the New Year scoreboard, for as long as possible, and the other is to see a game at BMD (or at least see a start made).

Here's the link to the Echo's stadium timeline Sam mentions @ 12.

Link

Given the scale and intricacies of the project plus the number of different parties that needed to reach an accord, I believe the progress since BMD was declared as the club's preferred stadium location in January 2017 has been more than reasonable.

With the meticulous groundwork undertaken with an extensive public consultation together with Dan Meis' designs, the club has hopefully pre-empted any challenges to its planning submission which will be presented in December.

Naysayers will always claim otherwise, but maybe, just maybe, Everton are being very professional and competent on this one.

"The People's Project will attract 1.4m new visitors to the city on an annual basis"

So, every single year, 1.4 million people who have never visited Liverpool before will come just to see our new stadium??

WOW.

“Stone The Crows! So they found nearly 700 people on Merseyside who have no interest in football? WTF? Who are these people? “

Koppites, Niall, Koppites!

Here, here Jay Wood(17), great post.

Jay (17), thanks for that link, very impressive look inside and all around the ground, can't wait to watch my first game there.

Could be Mark, could be! If I am still on God's earth when the stadium opens, one of my abiding Bucket List experiences would be to see the stadium on the ferry glugging a bottle of champers. Some people want to bungee jump off a very high building. My aspirations are rather modest like a mid table finish for our boys this year !

Don't worry Ray@6, it says by the end of this year, so if we struggle during the December month, even though we all know an announcement will come in December, some will say hey up we're struggling expect a ground announcement soon.

Even with good positive news, some people still can't stop posting their negative diatribe. It wouldn't be so bad if it was something original, which hadn't already been posted.

Bill...if I'm reading this correctly, you are planning to meet up with the Reaper whilst the game is being played ?

Correctomundo Brian. It's written in stone that December will probably see us in the relegation zone. Hence the negativity regarding the Stadium announcement that we all know is coming.

Correctomundo Brian. It's written in stone that December will probably see us in the relegation zone. Hence the negativity regarding the Stadium announcement that we all know is coming.

Ray, six points ahead of the relegation spots, next match at home against the number last. So after next match we could well be nine points clear. By no means an exciting season but written in stone that we will be in the relegation zone next month? Nah. Lower mid table, yes.

Perhaps I missed the sarcasm in your post, apologies if that's the case.

Why is everyone so pleased. We have been told on another thread " Bramley-Moore Dock is not happening",

Erik #28, I'm quite certain Ray was being ironic. He almost always is. He is one of the more subtle humorists on TW.

All well and good but Tony Hibbert, Leon Osman, Kroldrups heading, Nyarko shirt switch, Kenwright, Kirkby, Arteta money. Just saving the moaners from having to cover the usual complaints.

Side splitting

Still think team development plans run with these stadium plans. Surely this new owner has a plan.
Hope so. Maybe we should have the balls to stick chins out and point out this bright future to the RS we encounter daily.

Of course some will be searching for other reasons it won't happen and can say "told ya so" if right but it will be a sad boast.

Be great for us to get excited and just take the risk. Everton seen as club on the up and excited? God! 🍸

All we need now is to see some heavy duty machines working on the site. Weve been waiting years!

Let's hope it's got a flood proof defense, not a leaky one 😀

You have got to laugh at the easily outraged whining about negative posts. . especially on a thread where negative posts are conspicuous by their absence.

Having gone in search of them. They will no doubt scream the house down when/if they arrive.

Alan; # 25

That's not quite what I meant but if it was good enough for Dean and Catterick that'll do for me (hopefully near the end)!!

Bill I'm hoping to shuffle off the coil just after a disputed last minute penalty against that lot secures us the Premier League.

“We're getting relegated this season”...??? err, No.

We're not getting the ground at Brambly-Moore Dockc...” err, Yes we are.

‘“Silva will be sacked next week...” err no he won't.

And so on and so forth...

Huge support for Everton's stadium plans...

Let's hope the stadium actually ends up looking like the plans that everyone has backed

I may be wrong but I don't remember the consultation asking about preferences to redevelop Goodison? The plans on TW for the redevelopment of Goodison have shown that it could have the same capacity as Bramley-Moore Dock.

Those teams that have developed their existing grounds compared to those teams that have relocated have largely faired better and without the new ground syndrome. Without Evertonians being given a choice about redeveloping Goodison, the figures put out are a one-sided view.

On an aside, just saw a 19/20 PL table without VAR. we'd by 9th, six places higher. Other teams have a variable of 1-2 places.

With all the work going on in the Peel holdings footprint, a massive injection of capital in one location is about to happen. That should accelerate investment in the rest of that area.

Mike #30, cheers, my bad.

This thorough preliminary work will help get the planning application through at the first attempt. It will actually save us time in the long run and help maintain the programmed schedule.

Although things are less than acceptable on the pitch the new stadium now looks like it is on track apart from one thing. a big thing

Who is paying for it, where is the half a billion coming from and on what terms and interest rates?

Just asking like...as it may become an issue at some point. For starters I think the feller in the Portakabin down there needs a new pack of chocolate Hobnobs and there is only 36p left in the petty cash tin.

Erik@28
Yes Erik, it was intended to be sarcasm I.e.
According to the naysayers we'll be in the relegation zone by then.
Mike@30
Kind words Mike, thank you.👍

I hate to bring everyone in this happy-clappy party down to earth but with Venice under water shouldn't the stadium be built on a flippin hill?

Anfield is 228 ft above sea level, Goodison is 158ft above sea level but Bramley Moore is only 13 ft above. Worrying if we are thinking long term.

With all this climate change mullarkey will we be swamped in years to come.
I'll get me coat.

Spot on Eddie @ 48, according to Climate Central, a coastal risk screening tool, the Bramley Moore area is at risk of being under water by 2050.

Trevor, Eddie, I wouldn't get too hung up about BMD being under water by 2050, We'll probably be underground by then ourselves. I'll certainly be blown to the four winds by then, poured from a small casket by (I hope) grieving relatives, onto the mountain walks enjoyed with our dog.

Plus, do you believe that football will still be played as it is now? A Premier League etc.? I will be surprised if we haven't got some sort of Super European League within ten years, purely designed to line the pockets of FIFA, UEFA, FA mandarins and to sate the appetite of the hordes of RS fans, sat in their beach huts in Thailand et al.

Football is changing. We might have disappeared by then. Don't worry about it. Someone else's problem

Trevor

I'm not worried about being under water, in Richarlison we have an expert diver.

Ray- in that case Goodison will do for all of us old codgers, so let's save a few bob and let's call the whole thing off!

Brings a whole new meaning to the call ''Get the subs on !! ''

I'm sorry for wading in with my observations.

Need good drainage

Eddie, this is in danger of becoming a pun laden thread like many of the Live Forums do on a match day, usually because the footie has become so boring that it's more entertaining. Fish, cats, all have been the basis of Live Forums in recent months. We'll have people dredging up corny jokes on here soon all ship/dock/water related.

Ray, I think it's just nervousness. Obviously it'll be very difficult initially in a new stadium, you know, sink or swim!

I wonder if the pitch will have lanes on it, like an Olympic Pool?

Who wants a stadium perched on a hill? Codswallop if you ask me? And for those who think we'll be floundering at the bottom by then, think again and stop carping on about it.
We'll be back at the top by then instead of being looked upon as minnows and won't that be a ray of sunshine for us?
Can't wait to be stood outside BMD with a grouper other Blues waiting to go in for the first time. Ide wager Ide not be the sole Blue waiting for that moment either. Just hope it's not in the depths of winter or it won't be water we'll be worried about it'll be ice. Have to skate to our seats
Right that's me lot off to watch an old episode of Stingray!

Much more of this and I'll be going off the deep end!

Brian, have a whale of a time.

Cod almighty. when will it end, I'm off for a pint of Bass.

We could sign Danny Drinkwater as well as maybe coaxing Willo Flood, Simon Ferry and David Seaman out of retirement.

Couldn't we just float the stadium at BMD. Then it would just go up or down according to whether it's global warming or an ice age. Got to think ahead!

I don't know what you're smoking Ray, but there could be a sting in the tail of this story. If I could eelavate the ground fifty feet it would be worth an extra fifty squid a season ticket to the school of science affishionados...

*What have I done* Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

If we float the stadium, we could see Perch Rock or even Whales...

I presume Marine AFC have got all this sussed.

Can't wait to see Graeme Shark back in the No 9 shirt. Alongside Nikica Jellyfish.

62,000 and we'd still fillet.

I say, 62,000 AND WE'LL STILL FILLET – for those short of herring.

This is what happens during a week of crap international matches. Feckin fish puns again... it's only been a matter of weeks since the last set of fish puns. Gawd help us!

There's a time and plaice for fish puns and this thread ain't it.

Duncan – lighten up, mate – turning forty has made you grumpy. the new stadium will warm the cockles of your sole...

Don't be so crabby Duncan.

Anyway no problem, we will just ask the Premier League to schedule our games for when the tide is out.

Just adding to my mouth-watering forward line in a submerged BMD -- Danny Calamari.

New Stadium?

Hah! Bream on!

Amazing how many are whiting although it's got us all hooked !

I think they chose the perfect plaice for the stadium. Somewhere to end our trophy trout and fulfill all our breams.

Anyone who says its a hoax is talking a load of pollocks. And I've haddock up to there with all the negativity, we've had our fillet of that.

Good cod, these puns are krilling me.

Can I be the first to ask for a stand to be named The Ray Roach stand?

On a more serious note I think the stadium will definitely happen and the naysayers are talking total pollocks.

Buoy, oh buoy what great suggestions.

75 squid a ticket ?

Surely Farhad would be so shellfish.

Brian Williams has a lot to answer for. Hell 'e butts in time and time again singing the same ol' tuna.

There should be a gala opening concert: Waterboys, Bryan Ferry, Fish, Phish, Beach Boys, Julian Bream, Art Garfunkel, King Krillson. They all know their scales...

Don, come on, don't harbour a grudge against Brian; we can bridge any troubled water between you.

Well let's hope the stadium can take this European Minnow to the top of the European Perch.

Yes, I looked them up and interestingly there is a Footballfish with 22 subspecies. No really, Wiki is always right.

Naming rights for new stadium ? Don't tell em Pike. Threw that in just for the halibut

Are those away fans waving or drowning?

David #92 - nobody will hear them.

So if there was such a positive response to the new stadium, and approval ratings in the high 90s, then I guess I was in the 2% who filled the form in saying I wanted a 60,000 capacity at the new ground. But from the posts on here during the first and second consultation everyone to a man said they also wanted a 60,000 capacity stadium.

That's why all this positivity smells a bit fishy Brian, because you only have to read T/W, to know that most people want at least 55.000 seats.

Eddie @83

I've been whiting all my life for that.😁

Tony # 95

Tony, the council in a road where residents were complaining about it being a rat run and dangerous as cars were driving down both ways and sometimes halfway on the curb, because there wasn't space, was surveyed by the council.

This survey involved counting how many cars were using the road and they even put a video camera up, wonderful!

Well the only problem is that they surveyed the road on a bank holiday weekend, no commuters, no school runs, nothing! Residents were told there was no need for traffic calming measures.

This was a true event, the moral of the story is you'll always be told what they want you to hear, which is nearly always not what you should or need to hear.

If the players keep playing to the high standards they have been lately in the new stadium, can we give them steaming "Mersey Fish" for their after match meal?

(S)Hark at you all with your clever fish puns!!
There's a danger of eel will being created in this plaice.
I'll get my coat!!!!

According to Tony M, if the stadium gets built at BMD it'll be a mackerel. Still, it would be great to see Tony M's kipper when the work starts

Brian#94 - the 94% approval is of the design, not the capacity.

Can we please stop with the fish puns for Heaven's hake. Shellfishness at its worst, in your breams.

Sorry - meant 98%!

Didn't we used to play in salmon pink?

If so, very apt!

We can all dive in the Leeds - Liverpool canal and swim to our (spawn)scoring grounds at BMD!

Kevin, get off your high (sea)horse

All that work putting a camera up and they only used it once, call me a cynic but I find that story very hard to believe Rob M!

Looks like I'm in deep water for starting that !

Gungeon - know what this is creating a lot of tench-ion, if it comes off... it'll be a fluke.

That's it, you've all been docked 5 points for talking pollocks

Forgive me for being facetious, but we are building a long term new stadium right next to the sea.

Given the "climate catastrophe",will this place will be underwater in less than 20 years?

Loaded question I know but I'd be interested in what the club would say

Dean #110
It may well flounder

Lyndon, Take this fishy nonsense off, its downright silly and detracts from what was a thoroughly decent and informative thread.

We need a Coderator to police this puntatious piffle.

One more thing;

A design idea maybe to construct the stadium with clear glass sides. Then if it does become flooded it will be the worlds largest aquarium. People will still come from miles around to see the exotic marine life within.

Michael Fish hasn't predicted sea levels rising. That's a bad sign.

I sincerely doubt this stadium will be 52,000 capacity.

There would have been a damn sight more than 2,700 non Evertonian respondents had a >65k capacity been vaunted at this stage.

Good work by Denise Mullet-Baxenwhale and her bream.

Drew, is that 52,000 people or fish?

On the Banks of the Royal Blue Shark Mersey.

Brent Stephens - that's the best one!

I like a bit of Ska/Punk so I want the grand opening to feature Fishbone.

Back to the stadium, agree with all that 52k is small time thinking. We sell out a 40 thousand with an old stadium with restricted views. It would be nice to have a bigger capacity than that lot, as it for once mean we get one over on them.

The owners will be smug and laughing at this post. We should be complaining about a stadium with a paltry 52K capacity instead we indulge in fish jokes.

I agree John, not a very sofishdicated debate this

Given there appears to be quite a few not expecting to, perhaps all those who don't last to make the opening of BMD could be sat in the Director's Box at Goodison, clothed in Blue'n'White with season tickets in hand surrounded by Everton Toffees, Chang beers and Sportpesa betting slips as part of a community commitment.

My only reservation is that I believe that the new stadium will do more for my city than it will ever do for my club.

Unbelievable! I see Anfield is going to be extended to 60,000, not bad for a ground we used to own...

Unlike us – we have to build another stadium and loose our identity once again while theirs gets stronger.

Both the Tories and Labour have the introduction of safe standing in their election manifestos so no reason why we cannot go for a 62k capacity from the start.

I hope so Mike.

Mind you Steve, politicians are known for keeping promises :)