Christophe Galtier — A Gallic Gamble Worth Taking?

Quite what he'd make of our squad I'm not sure. But it sounds like he'd let Brands sort it out without interfering. That's a big plus for me.

In Galtier's case, though, it's hard to come up with a negative other than he has no real Premier League experience (which is potentially huge but didn't stop the likes of Pochettino or Wenger) and that France's track record for top coaches isn't great (which is no reason to discount anyone, in my opinion). He's done well at both clubs he's managed, won trophies and succeeded despite significant disruption to his squad from year to year.

Nice want him, Napoli were interested so worth a look, I would say.

Yesterday I stated that most french managers ie Le Guen, Perrin, Garde, Puel etc….had flopped in the premier league (apart from Wenger who's a bit German) and it's a big risk and I got a bit of flak for it. But perhaps this guy can break the mould. We'll probably get Benitez now.

He sounds exactly the guy that Moshiri should of brought in 5 years ago.

Lyndon has done a good job of selling the Frenchman but as Colin pointed out, quite rightly, most French managers have flopped in the Premier League.

If these are the genuine contenters for the manager's job it will interesting to see who wins out. If it is Galtier, it will be Brands's last chance to justify his large salary as an effective DOF, because he's record so far has been pretty poor, despite being so successful in Europe.

The guy's record speaks for itself. I like the energy that Lille play with, and their record in terms of buying and selling is really good. We could definitely use some of that at Everton. He clearly meets a lot of our criteria. But so does Ten Hag of Ajax.

It seems we are looking at coaches who can work with a DOF. My hunch is that Ten Hag is the more likely candidate, simply because of the Dutch link, and linguistically we know he can fit in straightaway - Galtier would be more of a gamble in this respect. I guess we'll see!

If I was Moshiri I'd listen to Brands, or sack him. Moshiri is clueless so I think he'll go for the worst option which, in my mind, would be Nuno. I just think this guy lacks any fire in his belly and is a yes man.

Given our recent run of managers, I don't anything is guaranteed great CV or not!

Moshiri must be frustrated, as he has passion for Everton, invested heavily, and unfortunately success hasn't come to fruition, another example of nothing being guaranteed on or off the pitch.

Interesting times ahead, let's hope this time we get the right man and challenge for the top four.

Until the dross of 2017, 2018 & 2019 that we bought en masse and gave massive contracts to are gone we will continue to stumble along.

It seems there's a received wisdom that's being repeated about who thinks what, when in reality we are all just guessing. Unless someone goes on the record, it's all speculation.

I cant agree that Moshiri has appointed anyone with a decent CV except Ancelotti. Koeman had done nothing as a manager before we signed him, Silva had taken Watford down, and Allardyce prior to this season was famous for helping sides avoid relegation. Then added to that although he didnt apoint Martinez another manager who had taken a side down prior to us appointing him.

Where at least Galtier has shown on the 2 clubs he has managed both in relegation trouble when he took over both survived. But more importantly St Etienne went on to qualify for Europe for the next 4 years, and likewise with Lille in deep relegation trouble when he took over but survived by 1 point. Then in the next couple of years finished 2nd to PSG and this year managed to beat them to the title. So he has demonstrated he can take teams who are in trouble and within a year has them challenging for Europe and winning titles. Tell me any other of the likely candidates have done that, certainly not Potter or Nuno and surely the other names are just not worth considering. So Farhad sign him up before Nice do or we will regret it.

He has a management team and getting them into the management structure would be a stumbling block. He would increase the risk for himself further accepting what is there.

Marcelo Daniel Gallardo, River Plate, is not even mentioned now. He in my opinion is less of a gamble, as you put it, than Galtier, but there is still the stumbling block of his management team, which has been with him since Nacional.

Nuno had the same stumbling-block problem, it was reported.

Trivia: Funny River Plates nickname is the Millonarios and Everton are playing the Millonarios Club from Colombia in the Florida Cup next month.

"I work with five other consultants who are based worldwide, although my own role is much smaller now long into retirement. However, one of my colleagues is from Munich and obviously supports Bayern and another is from Paris and supports PSG. You can imagine the stick I take!
However, the point of my post is that when Poch was appointed to the manager's role at PSG, my Paris colleague was screaming that PSG should have paid whatever they had to pay to get Galtier - and that was BEFORE he won the title with Lille. He said this morning that he prayed Galtier came to the UK as he feels either Lille or Nice will be a major problem for PSG next season if he remains in France!"

My colleague agrees your article is right on the money and believes Galtier would be the ideal foil for Brands having had the same experience with Campos.

Whether Galtier would come is another matter but if Moshiri had the opportunity, he should go for it big time.

You are right about Cocu having success with PSV with Brands - they won the Eredivisie. If he had done better with Derby he would have been a contender here, but with the way it worked out for him at Derby, I reckon he is a long shot. But Brands does know him well and what he can do, so if he is any good I'm sure he'll be considered.

The bookies have got Nuno and Rafa as favourites. I just can't see either of them, especially Rafa - always at loggerheads with the boardroom! The last thing we need is more arguing and drama! I can see a coach like Galtier or Ten Hag all day long…

I think Everton need someone ruthless, so Benitez fits that bill for me, although it would again really contradict the job Marcel Brands is supposed to do, and his football has also never ever been that easy on the eye.

So I'm going for this fella, if it is at all possible, although I'm not sure if Everton have even spoken to him?

So how is this guys English?

Unai Emery's main Arsenal downfall was problems communicating in training and with the press.

Then again Bielsa has an interpreter but everyone loves him.

At St. Etienne he took a fairly mediocre team that had finished in the bottom half for 7 of the previous 10 seasons and then he helped them finish in the top 7 for 5 seasons on the trot. He also won their first trophy in 32 years.

if he could do a similar job at Everton I think most would be pretty happy.

Paul Joyce (who is usually in the know) said today that our list was Benitez, Santo, Moyes, Martinez, Potter and Galtier. Not an inspiring bunch. For me the last two represent the bravest and most exciting options. Both play good football and have built good teams in recent years.

If this guy is the real deal, and he can bring his French experience and success to Everton we will all be happy.

He comes across as humourous, passionate, and really good at the job. Lots of backroom staff with him from various nationalities and worked really well with his Sporting Director Luis Campos.

Looks to me like exactly the guy we need.

At the time Koeman was appointed like Lyndon I was more inclined towards de Boer. I recall posting in to TW the view of a Dutch friend who said that the difference between these two was that Koeman would try to buy immediate success while de Boer would take a longer term view by concentrating on player development. However, she also added that if we really want a Dutch manager we should go for Cocu who was a nice combination of both approaches and is in Holland the most respected coach of the three. The Derby County experience is irrelevant; Cocu is still worth talking to.

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It was after the victory against Bordeaux in 2019 which qualified Lille for the Champions League.

Why Mosh doesn't grow a pair and boot Teary Bill right where he could into real estate, and give him two achers to start with, is beyond me. What is that old saying about Organ Grinders and Monkeys? If we can't get Galtier, or he chooses to honour his Gentleman's Agreement with Nice, Potter or Conte definitely fit the bill (not teary bill!)

I just wish they would come to the right conclusion sooner or later!

He strikes me as extremely charismatic, whether his English is good or not. He has a record of turning things around at faltering clubs and winning. His teams play entertaining football. Now he is perfectly poised to take on a role at a bigger club and test himself in the premier league. I am surprised that so few Evertonians are enamoured with him. Imagine he was your manager. What wouldn't you want to do for him?

Don't know enough about this one and I don't really follow French football but this article makes a good case. Also, my son, who has a broader outlook on football than me got pretty excited by this link, so I'm in if there's anything in it.

Ian #18 and David #29, great informative posts. Cheers to you both for the extra effort.

It's easy to forget sometimes that TW isn't just about opinions and debate, it's also about information -- delivered by smart, informed observers. This thread is a primo example of that.

OK, I'm in too. One more vote for Galtier. Those eyebrows alone are worth the gamble.

A diminutive 5'9" central defender who nonetheless carved out a 400-game career -- scoring exactly one goal in his life.

And he went to play professionally in China long before it was fashionable or lucrative -- not to one of the big Western-friendly cities like Shanghai or Beijing, but to Shenyang, a provincial city up near the North Korean border that was pretty much a hellhole 25 years ago, and probably didn't have another French speaker in the whole place.

Big bollocks, this guy.

Brands appears to have become a hands off Director of Football. Maybe he is taking over Kenwrights role on Transfers, with the Manager doing lists and selection. If the Manager wants to give him more of a role, because he has worked with a Director of Football fine.

We have a specific roster problem that this manager has not faced. That and the possible underestimation of Premier league sides could frustrate him early in his tenure. All considered with Nuno stalling, I'd make the offer unless Conte claimed he could get near-Inter results with our mess of veterans. (disclaimer: yes, I did dismiss Conte early for being a hot-head but if he doesn't grate Brands he could be the firebrand the club need-at admittedly high risk but we're kind of in fuckville already).

Big question is - how do we collectively influence the decision makers - little in the last 30 years seems to have worked.

Sometimes the right man with the right players and system can do well and others just fall by the wayside.

Early last season we all thought Everton were on the right track but they just couldn't rise to the next level and then the quitter Ancellotti left them in the lurch.

Success with other clubs doesn't mean it will happen elsewhere. Just look at Eden Hazard at Real Madrid.

I'm pretty sure Moshiri is putting his faith in Brands and Brands must feel that given his new positions announced today. Bides well that Kenwright is not going to get his way regards Moyes or Martinez.

Absolute basket case and the mis-management is going to catch up with us.

Whoever we bring in has to be allowed to choose his own staff. And yes, that could mean Duncan and Co leaving.

Nothing wrong with that.Howard Kendall left as did Joe Royle. They went elsewhere to gain experience before coming back.

If Duncan and Unsworth have genuine ambition, they should go and test themselves, not sit in the comfort zone of the U23s and the managerial equivalent of being on the bench at Everton.

Oh yeah, and bring Aouar with him to the interview. I'd take him whether Rudi works out or not.

But who knows.

As with all matters Everton, it's the hope that kills you, but surely this time around the Everton board will get the right manager.

Doldrums, no mans land but Everton are drifting into further oblivion if this time doesn't work.

We don't want to become the QPR of the North, in terms of manager turn around.

Mike Walker flashbacks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FM9F6ChszQ

It's going to be a mid-table manager to maintain Everton usual status.

Also, Gareth Farrelly has been recently contacted to be offered Unsworth's old job at Finch Farm. If Gareth turns it down, then Simon Davies and John Spencer are next on Bill's list.

Shit Creek, Everton have been stuck there since 1985, due to a combination of factors the club could reasonably control which is the main, and factors they couldn't control which in 05/1985, no club could control.

This all in has seen flirtations at best with some smell of a chance of success.

Genuinely the team spunked great chances due mainly to tactical naivety like Chelsea away in the semi first leg, in 2008, old Version of the milk cup, - Carling Cup. And a few since,
The trend is common and no big match belief and mentality has surely seen these games lost, almost before the KO.

The rest Chelsea, RS, Manure, aside to 2009 FAC, -semi, and we lost to Chelsea in the FAC Final, based on ability but based on tactical and club management maturity, has has become amateur in my opinion.

So I'm being honest, seen the Very Good, Very Bad and The Worst, and Everton must from their youth structure to the top get some reality in to the frame work of the club.

BMD and it's potential but Everton need a good consistent team, built by a club, whom commands respect across the football world.

No more phonies, no more niceties.

Everton need to smell the salts fast, and move fast as the plan will deflate and the mess won't be fixable, as Everton are looking to plug a massive void, already considerable, and the burden for us now, and veterans of all ages.

I say veterans of all ages, as being an Evertonian, these days is tough, regardless of age.

Fantasy Island... “De Plane, De Plane?

We live in hope eternal. I wish, let's hope soon.

So given that he left with no warning and since other clubs are also struggling with the managers' market I don't think we're embarrassing ourselves further by being deliberate. No leaks to the press, a decent approach to two qualified candidates and no comments on the interviews is the professional way to handle this delicate situation.

Not slagging those who are wobbly, just saying that in my opinion we make it through without being the punchline.

You care as much as we all do, on TW, and that's why we write and feedback, live and learn on TW.

Please note in my last quote, I'm not referring about why Carlo left, that's not what I'm talking about.

I'm not a prisoner of the past, them shackles were cut off and will never be worn again, by me

I'm taking about in context the demise of Everton across the last 30 odd years, as a football power, in my last thread, and it's a notion of where the club was and is.

Say what you mean, and be free, to speak as this is what ToffeeWeb is about.

Tough, give and take, but in respectful spirit.

Clever dudes, we can all have our moments. Lol.

But our common aim is for a better place for EFC, and we respect TWrs !

And come the glorious beer fest day at Sams Bar...when we resurrect!

At the Ship @ Mitre, Hole In The Wall, The Vaults, when it's safe for mankind. Let's live in hope!

Last call today from me, is there any Evertonians, on the US side in Baltimore?
Thank you.

Still, he appears among the best qualified. I like the way he thinks about space on the pitch with his formations. which to me, is the essence of success. The team that dominates the space best normally wins, provided they can convert their chances. Allons Y Galtier!!

He has managed 29 clubs in 13 years... and that's not even the funniest thing about him.

This is his real name.

https://www.transfermarkt.us/argel-fucks/profil/trainer/10334

Companies House records confirm that Brands has joined the board of Everton Investments Ltd, Everton Finance Ltd and Goodison Park Stadium Ltd, all appointments beginning from June 4.

Brands joins incumbent trio of Bill Kenwright, Denise Barrett-Baxendale and Alexander Ryazantsev on the Everton Investments Ltd and Goodison Park Stadium Ltd board, while he joins Kenwright in coming on to the Everton Finance Ltd board, which had previously had only Barrett-Baxendale and Ryazantsev as confirmed board members.

The appointments, while not drastically altering the dynamic, do point to Brands having a greater influence with the club moving forward, with the investment from Moshiri set to continue while the club build up to their planned move to Bramley-Moore Dock in 2024.

So, as far as I can see, Brands has been identified as having something the other three board members weren't able to offer in the roles they've hitherto had.

That doesn't surprise me. What does surprise me is why it's taken an alleged business genius billionaire five years to suss it out.

What disappoints me is that Kenwright also seems to have had his role enhanced to assist Barrett-Baxendale and Ryazantsev (with Brands) in whatever they've, seemingly, not been up to for several years.

Until this owner/boardroom befuddlement successfully sorts itself out in a manner understandable to fans and the wider world of the football industry, I'd have next to no faith in Jesus Christ doing well as our next manager.

ps: Farhad; he's free though, is good on the wing (and a prayer), and doesn't seek compo when you hang him out to dry.

Further to your comments, which I largely agree with, by the way, it is a sad case where the Board comprise of a mixture of individuals with mainly finance as their area of expertise (?) and only one member that actually knows anything about football, and how the system works!

It is hardly surprising therefore that any votes at Boardroom level are likely to go against Marcel Brands, with his based from a knowledge of the game and what is required at Everton, in favour of a financially based vote. Having said that and a point you so rightly picked up on, with all their supposed and collective Financial Wisdom how come we have blown so much money with so little to show for it.

Apart from Richarlison, maybe Pickford, possibly Ben Godfrey and Calvert-Lewin, who on our playing staff would the Big Boys covet? So what has all that financial acumen (?) achieved to date? Unless he is money laundering, or being a secret Billionaire, I fail to understand how Farhad has let all this basically amateur and reckless proliferation of funds go unchecked!

Is that because the Italian had the wider smile or because most of us wanted rid of him anyway ?

There was nothing alleged about Moyes departure he upped sticks and left plus subsequent revelations showed it wasn't last minute as claimed but a pre-planned subterfuge going back several months.

The idea our record looked acceptable over the Moyes decade depends on what gauge you use personally I thought existing in a mid table stupor and challenging for nothing piss poor for Everton.

And at least Carlo didn't make his pretence last 10 yrs.

He never got as many points as Martinez first season and his second season just avoided relegation meaning if you compare like with like an argument exists for saying he was the worst.

Barry, Martinez inherited Moyes defence, the players were still fit and Martinez hadn't had the chance to instill his tactics (tactics? 🤣) on them. Martinez was found out once he introduced his tactics and pathetic training regime.. remember Osman saying that Martinez's ‘hardest' training day wasn't as tough as Moyes warm down day? We haven't been fit since Moyes left.

The Moyes defence myth is the greatest rewrite in history even with the Moyes blueprint of an entire eleven as a defensive unit they still leaked like a sieve. Martinez 72 points was IN SPITE of the Moyes defence not because of it more often than not we had to score more than one to compensate for the daft one the Moyes boys let in.

If Martinez had been afforded REAL money to clear them out and replace with decent footballers he'd still be here now as would Stones, Rom and Barkley.

Howard, Coleman, Baines, Jags and Distin were on their last legs at the end of the Moyes tenure asking them to defend without a defensive unit in front of them just exposed them.

As for Osman what do you expect him to say he was part of the cabal. The lightweight would have been bemused by Cloughs antics of stopping training and taking the team off to Spain for a jolly mid week and he didn't do too badly

Naturally, I'm bound to disagree. But I witnessed with my own eyes players increasingly blowing for tugs as Martinez' tenure continued. Osman's comments merely underlined what we could all see for ourselves. We became increasingly unfit. I listened to a West Ham player talking last week ( not sure which one...) who said that Moyes first job when he arrived was to get them fit. I'm not a Moyes fan boy but I can appreciate his influence and input into making us a side that carried some respect as opposed to the music hall joke that we were prior to his arrival. If Moyes had had Lukaku to go along with a young Baines, Coleman, Jags, Lescott, Arteta, Pienaar, Osman, Distin, Carsley, etc we might have seen real success. Instead we had Marcus Bent and, for a short time, Yakubu.
Unfortunately Moyes behaviour when he left has soured people's memories and opinion of him.

Ps. The biggest historical rewrite of history surely involves Heysel. Just sayin.....'

Apart from those recruited by the top six clubs, very few foreign managers brought in directly from abroad with no previous Premier League experience have made a positive impact. Is this the time to take a risk? I suppose if things quickly go pear shaped the Board can turn to Duncan as their Plan B.

Losing sides never look sprightly and it was a foregone conclusion we were done when Bobby courageously continued to try to create a challenging outfit without the requisite dough. A far more urgent and unforgiving proposition than the Moyes era of mid table acceptance. The moment Baines and co re-established the old porous rear guard confident in their continuance after we spent up on Rom the die was cast - Martinez was finished..

Remember McCready? Fuck me, does it get anymore desperate?

Martinez still engineering good cup runs during the period was nothing short of miraculous but inconvenient facts never supplant simplistic myths.

Moshiri has had his arse handed to him since for not lacking the smarts to see what we had and back Martinez, mind you he wasn't alone, neither did some fans.

If you believe in Karma we've had it in spades ever since