Everton would consider selling Kean to PSG

For me Moise was potential but the club rule book, if it still exists, in any form, should make clear the minimal standards of conduct expected in training, playing and public life, when contracted to EFC.

No doubt his heads turned, by playing with some great players, at P S G, but overall it could seal his fate, as an underachiever, whom could have worked harder to make the grade, and improve his game, but who, knows.

I still reckon he has it in his locker to be a player but on face value, I don’t see the desire and hear from the.Body language, these last 12 months, to stay in the North West, and play for Everton.

For me if he comes back, it would be some thing..A miracle.

Cash in and move on.

I think., a month, is a long time in football.

Maybe we should also get Daniel Levvy from spurs to negotiate the sale for us.

Any sale also needs to include a sell on clause 20%.

It is fairly obvious that Moise and Everton are not a symbiotic pairing, and maybe he has been over-hyped, but what was clear to me at any rate, it did not appear he wanted to be a part of Everton.

I just hope it's not left to the eleventh hour without having some sort of replacement lined up. Come on Marcel work your magic in both directions, and help take the burden off a lone DLC and hopefully give him some assistance and service.

Otherwise, the stand out players age 19/20 (that might be available) are Myron Boadu of Alkmaar and Abdellah Sima of Slavia Prague. The latter looks exceptional albeit in a weak Czech league. West Ham are interested after doing well with Soucek and Coufal.

If Kean doesn't want to stay then let him go and reinvest. Same with Bernard.

PSG is a perfect fit totally dominant in a noddy league with just enough games to keep him interested and an express train ride to Italy to see his pals when the first team is playing

Fully understand why Juve jumped at the 30mil and if we can cover our losses we should do the same.

Get the best money we can get with add ons and a sell on clause , and wish him luck. We need to move on and get a quality back up to take the strain from Richarlison and Calvert-Lewin. It will benefit those two players to have some support and make us stronger in the forward department. With Tosun looking like he may be off to Palace this business is looking like a clear priority.

That doesn’t mean rushing into a rash permanent signing. A loan until June would be the sensible option, then get the best on the market that Ancelotti and Brands can find. (The loanee deserves his chance to be fully considered too if he is a roaring success).

The player has seemingly flourished at PSG - but they now have a new manager who is already starting to rebuild the team in his own image.

Will this player fit into that image / philosophy.

On the other had, if he comes back to Everton - the same thing applies.

Who knows what the answer is?

None of us know what went on in the background at Finch Farm and at the club, Moise didn’t convince many people when he got the limited chances on the field but there were times when you could see the vast potential he had, and that view is enlarged when quite a few on here say he shouldn’t be sold for less than £40M and a % of any future sell on fee.

I go along with the point that Brand could have the last word, having weighed up the financial benefits to the club, I think he is a player who can become a very good player in the future, but Brands and Carlo will be thinking about the here and now.

I'm more concerned about the fact we aren't attempting to get a cheeky deal for Bernard and his overblown +£100k wages. He is distinctly average, at best, and epitomises the slow, weak, unathletic and ineffective players (particularly midfielders) that we seem to have been obsessed with signing over the last few years.

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I think his treatment by Ferguson was disgraceful, to bring on a kid as sub and then sub him some 19 minutes later, must have destroyed his confidence. No wonder he is happier and scoring goals for PSG, and if rumours are correct he might also have Messi as well as Neymar as a team mate next year.

The only reason we would be entertaining selllng a lad with his stats for the same price Liverpool got for Brewster is if we are fearful that the agent will take it very badly if we play hardball. I suspect Brands gave an undertaking at the time he was signed that once a big club came in we wouldn't stand in his way.

Great post Robert@10, the thing I liked about Brands, when he first arrived at Everton, was that he said having money can make clubs lazy, and we all know if you look good enough, you will always find good players, especially at these super spending football clubs, who sometimes must neglect their own young talent?

If he had Richarlison's work-rate, the thought of the two of them flanking Calvert-Lewin with James at the 10 is might tantalizing, but seems unlikely to materialize at this point.

#26 - How many goals did Moise Kean score before his Man Utd sub? Answer on a post card please?

As prv. said yes sell him for £30M plus and reinvest in this transfer window in better attacking player/ s that we need for this season and next.

M.Kean has pace and ability, just not the work rate, decision making or attitude that will help us in the next few seasons.

Did he play well last season? Not particularly. However, could anyone point me to an Everton player they'd give a season score above 5 to in 19-20? He was 19 years old playing in a shit team in a new, harder league, getting five to 10 minutes here and there.

Any fan purporting to know the reason behind the Old Trafford debacle is selling something. In all probability, both Ferguson and Kean were both to blame. Kean may not have been playing to his directions and at the same time Ferguson seemed like he was trying to flex his authority where he really should have been a tad more delicate.

As far as Kean staying or going, I trust that Ancelotti and Brands will make the best decision for the club and team. What I would be disappointed with is if January comes and goes and we have no back up for Calvert-Lewin.

Lookman and Vlasic were discarded in similar fashion, not given any real opportunities. Given 5-15 minutes every now and again and lambasted for not playing like Messi, or lambasted for not sweating blood for a club that doesn't give them a reason to sweat blood.

Now, if we had Lookman as an alternative to Richarlison or Iwobi, we'd be far stronger. As it is we have Gordon who clearly isn't ready (should be loaded to Championship), or Bernard who just isn't good enough.

We could have Vlasic as an attacking midfielder instead of Gomes or Siggy.
But no. Get rid of young players if they ain't scousers and don't immediately set the world on fire.

Kean or Tosun? It's not even a debate.

Yet Everton get rid of the former and keep the latter. And fans applaud.

Everton that.

Even at PSG he walks around the pitch looking like he's lost his last quid.

Daniel, Kean is, I think, trying to look cool when he's really very self-conscious. A lot of young lads like that. It never looks right. The only time I ever saw him relax and look comfortable was right before he left. Maybe he was relieved to be leaving.

We can't rewrite history. They wanted to go.

The local lads hanging around until they are told they are not wanted is equally interesting. I'll throw this out there; they have lived in an academy bubble and know no different so it becomes their comfort zone. They're happy to stay there rather than smell the coffee and realise they need to move on and progress their career, be that on loan or a permanent move.

Not being anti-local or provocative, just a thought.

It may be easier to keep happy local lads that have limited opportunities than if they are from further away.

Everyone wants to play but it's often the players who have had loyalty shown to them and want to repay the club and are prepared to be more patient.

If I had a client or manager who wanted to double my pay, guess what, I'd take it.

Not many kids anywhere in the world wouldn’t want to play for their home town club, especially if they play in the big league, and that’s why I’d disagree that it’s about waking up and smelling the coffee, and more about lads wanting to achieve their dream?

Seems like scoring goals (as Kean did against Newcastle in an excellent all-round energetic display) doesn't secure you a start in the following game under Ancelotti. This season already he has omitted Holgate after he had scored his first-ever goal for the club and Tosun after he got his first Everton goal for who knows how long. But then I defy anyone to guess a Carlo starting eleven in two consecutive matches.