Premier League — Week 11

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Fantastic strike from Adam Armstrong.

Call me old-fashioned, I like to see a striker put his laces through it and the net bulge.

If only...

Any reason why El Ghazi wasn't booked for his blatant dive in the Southampton penalty area? Should have been his second yellow card and therefore sent off.

Ticket has gone now for Spurs game.

Michael,

I guess that technique is why Armstrong is no longer Championship at best? Funny thing about Scotland. They produce some decent strikers on a technical level but going back 30 years none of them are prolific. Even old Naismith was technically sound. Remember the Chelsea game? But they never seem to hit double figures in a season.

Remember when Scotland produced some of the finest players in the late 70s and early 80s, Kieran? One of the best centre-backs I witnessed and an early Number 10 (before we called it that) who was outstanding came from north of the border. I can't say their names through fear of being lynched or banned from the site, but most should be able to read between the lines.

Watched Villa last night. Southampton were worth the points but what was interesting was how Everton-like Villa played.

Defended very deep. Who does Mings thing he is? McGinn lost without Grealish and trying to run the midfield on his own – never an easy task. Watkins isolated and frustrated. Manager "not making excuses", but highlighted injuries and having 3 academy graduates on the bench. Very familiar sound! Were it not for their very impressive keeper, the scoreline would have been higher.

Just shows that signings need to fit the model, not just be showcase or have £££ attached for marketing purposes. Villa built their style around Grealish. Bailey may have been a lot of people's choice, but he's no replacement in that sense.

Good point, Danny. I watched the game too, and they were definite signs of a team that look a bit lost. Not sure who they are.

Grealish is a special player who can't be replaced, not by a club like Villa anyway. With all due respect to great club with real history.

I think we're all that desperate for something to happen that we 'latch-on' to players we missed out on and convince ourselves that HE would have made the difference. Even as far back as 2007 when some on here were bemoaning the fact that Pompey signed David Nugent and we didn't. Look what he went on to do...not much.

Although Carragher made a great point a while ago in saying that, "you're never as far ahead or as far behind as you think you are."

Imagine if we signed a great RB and a dominant midfield player who could pass and score a few to go alongside Doucoure!! With almost everyone fit, we'd suddenly look like a different team. Just like Liverpool did when Suarez hit form along with Sturridge and Liverpool went from 7th to very nearly winning the League. The season after, minus Suarez, Liverpool finished 6th.

Poor Bailly. His first 7 minutes of the season and he tucks away a derby OG.

Heh-heh-heh.

What an absolutely wicked cross from Kyle Walker. The goal came not from it but from the subsequent phase... but that sort of incoming fire gave Bailly the shits, methinks.

"Commited to Net Zero"

Everton announce they have commissioned the first Net Zero player in the Premier League...

You guessed it:

Salomon Rondon!!!

Net Zero is his total of goals, assists and shots on target this season.

Some lovely passing from the Red Mancs there... worth a Ronaldo goal but he shoots a first-time at Ederson.

And 2 for City.

Heh-heh-heh.

De Gea poor on that one, but if it weren't for him this would be 0-5.

That really is shocking defending and goalkeeping between De Gea and Shaw. Do you even see that sort of defending at Sunday league sides, basic stuff (unless ofcourse it's Everton)

"I think we are the No.1 club in Manchester and that also probably means in the world."

- Ole, yesterday.

Heh-heh-heh.

I didn't think Manchester United were actually in Manchester - shouldn't they really be Salford United??

Dennis (16). Man U are in Trafford. I used to work for the Local Authority (when Gordon Lee was our manager). All a long time ago!

Didn't they start as Newton Heath Dennis? Which is in Manchester

City show with world class players how to make the game look easy, Move over Utd your crown is slipping.

Bill, compare our bench with City's. They had Mahrez, Sterling and Grealish today.

Both City and United's benches where stark in comparison to anything we can put out.

City totally dominant today. United players looked lost at the end. As they did through during most of the game. Sat deep and were outplayed.

Announcement tomorrow?

Ta, Steve, I thought it was another part of Greater Manchester rather than the City itself.

Is it Jeff, I thought that was outside the City too - or maybe it was back when the club was based there??

I have to admit my knowledge of Manchester is limited - just in case it wasn't obvious! :-)

Fuck off Nivea! I'm getting a Braun!

Just looked this up on Wiki.

Newton Heath is an area of Manchester, England, 2.8 miles (4.5 km) north-east of Manchester city centre and with a population of 9,883.

Newton included what is now Miles Platting and it stretched to Failsworth. It was bounded by brooks and rivers on all four sides — the River Medlock, Moston Brook, Newton Brook and Shooters Brook. With the creation of Miles Platting the remainder of Newton became known as Newton Heath.

The parish was the birthplace of the Newton Heath Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Football Club which was established in 1878 and later became Manchester United. It began life as a football team formed by Frederick Attock a Liverpudlian, who was a superintendent engineer of the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway (L&YR). The team played on a pitch at North Road, and were initially outfitted in green and gold jerseys. By 1892, they had been admitted to the Football League. The club remained in the area until 1893, when it moved to new premises at Bank Street in nearby Clayton. The name was changed to Manchester United Football Club in 1902.

Dennis and Jeff, Trafford, along with Salford, Bolton, Oldham etc is one of the Boroughs that make up Greater Manchester. The metropolitan county was wound up in the Thatcher era but the Boroughs survived the cull. I'm dredging my memory now! So Man U are definitely in Trafford Borough (along with Lancashire County Cricket Club at the other Old Trafford). Cheers

Ta, Steve. I took the unprecedented step of looking it up to find that Greater Manchester is made up of the Cities of Manchester & Salford + 8 other Metropolitan Boroughs, including Trafford.

Michael (12),

Amazing the bets you can do on line now, well amazing to me, when Ronaldo hit that shot on target, my grandson sitting watching with me said “That Ronaldo effort has just won me £20.”

Online, they were offering even money for Ronaldo to have a shot on target at anytime during the game, maximum bet was £20, so Sonny had a score on it. Never put me wise to it until after he had won, I would have had 50p myself on that, maybe even 75p!!

How much is Kouyate going for?

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Just watching Match of the Day back.

I don't always agree with Shearer and he went a bit over the top in my opinion, but he was bang on about Man City.

One of the fundamentals of coaching, especially young players. You have to work harder off the ball than you do on it. And despite their undoubted talent, that's what Man City do. It's what Liverpool do. Be that pressing to win the ball back or making runs to make space.

And how high up the pitch do they play? And often, it starts with their keeper on the edge of the own box as opposed to being camped 6 inches from his own goal line.

Fair comment to some extent by Shearer... but he was talking about top teams who've been afforded mega-money (courtesy of dubious owners and/or the incestuous Champions League circus) to buy two dozen or so top players.

If a team with more than one mediocre player (which is the other 17 in our Premier League) try to press that far up the pitch, they more likely than not get ripped a new one if they fail to immediately win the ball back.

Only highlights, but watched Aarons who many have rated as a potential successor to Coleman.

I wasn't convinced previously and I'm less so now.

I appreciate he's playing in a poor team, but his positional awareness doesn't look great.

Almost played the Brentford striker onside for the disallowed goal. He got away with that as he was way behind the rest of his defence. Got sucked into tracking and following way too central for the actual goal, when he should have passed the player on to a centre back and gone to close the eventual goal scorer who had pulled off wide and was the right back's real responsibility. Poor clearance at the end that could have cost his team 2 points.

Like I say, not watched him a lot, just heard a lot on here rate him highly.

What a line from the commentator at Chelsea v Burnley: "Barkley, should be, wasn't".

Could have won it. Got hooked and Burnley equalise. Kind of sums up our Ross.

Danny.

I'm not sure what time you're winging in today or your matchday ritual. I'll be in The Crown midday-ish if you're about. Coyb.

After the match Brian?

Dean Smith now gone from Aston Villa.

VAR to now be suspended for the rest of the season because it failed to rule out an own goal by Alison.

Time for Moysey to go defensive.

And Creswell follows through on Henderson (identical to Holgate)... VAR sees no issue whatsoever!!! (Although I'm glad in this case.)

Can't believe it – the other lot had a VAR decision go against them and give an own goal against their keeper. West Ham's Cresswell just done the same tackle as Holgate with a follow-through and was not even booked.

Absolute dive by Salah there for their free-kick.

Just watching the talk at halftime talk on the West Ham game and the consensus on the Cresswell tackle was it should have been a red card, but I don't think he was even booked.

2-1 the Hammers.

Jeff, I always wait until the end, whenever those horrible bastards are getting beat.

Go Kurt!

Antonio steamrollering Liverpool!

Kurt Zouma!!!

Great far post header!!!

Now I'll have to say something nice about the Ginger Fucker.

Everton legend Zouma. Antonio just brushes aside their midfield time and again

West Ham definitely the better team so far. Zouma with a nice header.

Good to see them lot getting a dressing down. Will Moyes win anything at West Ham? – that's the question. Probably not.

Made up with West Ham today but how on earth did we fall so far behind the Hammers in four years??

They are now everything that I wish Everton were or even came close to maybe being within the next year, but won't be.

Hope you're watching this (Zouma), Marcel.

Jim, it's what Moyes does well, organised and well drilled, astute with his recruitment but he can never go that level further up, will get out-thought tactically in the biggest games, and the reason he won't win anything.

Moyes bottling it??

Hibbert warming up

Full-backs on for forwards….. Davey, Davey, what the fuck!

Forward off, defender on. Where have we seen that before?

Haha, so he's brought on an extra right-back and left-back – classic Moyes!

Moyesy doing what Moyesy does.

West Ham looked like getting more now they'll be under siege through Klopp time...

I've just done something I haven't done for eons. I watched the other lot live on TV, with the commentary and everything. I only watched the second half, but I found it quite enjoyable, particularly the final score. Oh, and when people moan about Pickford, I will constantly remind them of Allison.

And ........... breathe.

So, so often does the shoring-up tactic fail – but still, certain managers persist. West Ham prevail though, today. Mwuahahahahaha LOVE IT.

Moyes is doing well at West Ham, but the football world is bizarre, they relieved him of his services... then of course asked him back a year later, should have stuck with him. Got to be said, though, there is strength in depth in their squad.

Something we haven't known for years at Everton. Not just Benitez but Pepe, Klopp, Tuchel and Conte would get this crass Everton squad Top 4. The People's Club is pitiful. Will we ever see Everton play in the Champions League?

I had Everton and Liverpool to both draw today, would have won a nice few pound but, at the end, I was cheering for a West Ham win, very glad they got it.

Fair do's to Moyesy, he's resurrected his career and is doing a fine job at West Ham.

Sacking head coaches? Absolute stupidity. Well done, Mr Moyes.

Barry @60,

Same mate. Once in a while I'm tempted to check in on them but invariably Salah immediately dives and gets a penalty so I turn it off.

This game though had that edge to it. The Hammers fans were really up for it and created a great atmosphere despite being in what my Hammers mate calls “a not-fit-for-purpose stadium”.

Also, having watched the RS vs Brentford game and this one, it appears the RS don't like fast counter-attacks with people running at them right down the middle. They are adept at handling threats from the wing but, if you charge right down the middle, they seem to fall apart. That and of course aim the corners and crosses directly at Allison.