Ferguson expected to leave Everton following Lampard's arrival

The clearout continues. We need to leave the past behind if we're to have a successful future in the Premier League.

Sunderland just sacked their manager tonight. No info but that looks a good place for him to try himself out as a manager. Well placed for promotion and possibly just need someone like Duncan?

Love Duncan. But it is about time. We need a fresh start, and so do many of our staff. I expect Unsworth to follow him (probably at end of season).

Time for them to progress their careers.

Sunderland would be a good start or perhaps offer your services to Derby.

Agree, it is time for him to move on. I wish him well where ever he goes. He will be welcome back anytime.

I love Big Dunc.. As a forward, as a bloke and as a Everton Great.. But it begs the question just how has he spent 5 yrs or so as 1st team coach with so many different managers...always smelt of Kenwright. Glad Lamps has the balls to cut the cord and say enough is enough.. Dunc was never gonna manage Everton as he had no experience...get into the lower leagues and stop hiding just behind the big seat.

Big 24 hours for us now to see which loan we get in as we can only get 1..and who else we buy I guess

All the best Duncan. It’s time to stand on your own two feet. Hopefully this is the end of the old boys brigade and the start of something exciting and the beginning of the end of the Kenwright regime.

Duncan does need to go out there now and spread his wings.

He's 51 this year and he should go and do what the likes of Gerrard, Rooney and our own Frank are doing, prove your worth at a club lower down and work your way up, to be honest I'm just surprised he hadn't done this long before.

He needs a challenge and we need a new direction because clearly the last five years haven't worked, at any level at this club.

New horizons are required now and new faces.

A multi millionaire at 51. He doesn't NEED to do anything.

A multi millionaire at 51. He doesn't NEED to do anything.

What! You mean Rondon is still here!?

Duncan always wore his heart on his sleeve with his love for Everton, would love to see him stay, but wouldn't the Sunderland job be a great start for him in management.

I am very surprised they will cut Duncan a drift. Kenwright has did everything possible, both Ancelotti and Benitez had to keep him on. It must be that because he was Assistant Manager he had to go. Moshiri must have insisted. New Manager New Team. I doubt Lampard would have even mentioned him.

Good Luck to him. He has been about so long.

Alan, if he really did go bankrupt and lose it all, I doubt he's that wealthy, Very unlikely he's earned multi-millions in his roles at Everton since. The managers are usually the only ones of the non-playing staff getting the really big bucks (and pay-offs).

Not to say he'll have struggled though.

Twitter abuzz with WBA fans clamoring to have him replace their current boss. Not sure on Sunderland. It’s been the poison chalice for many. Then again, are there any “safe” jobs out there where you can endure one bad spell? Most teams have a revolving door

Hopefully Duncan sees this an opportunity to prove himself and shows the footballing world what he can do. Good luck big man.

Sad to see him go yet been disappointed by this strange trend of him and Rhino not serving apprenticeships at lower league clubs. It did Joe Royle and HK no harm.

Rooney is doing it!

Duncan is a modern day blue legend.
He was shafted by Johnson when he was sold to Newcastle to fund the club.
He came back and will always be an Evertonian.
I hope he does fancy the manager job at one of the lower league clubs. His passion will win the support of any set of fans. providing they can understand him of course!
I wish him good luck for the future.

Alan #7 and Will #12, Ferguson was declared bankrupt in court six years ago this week. However, his current contract at Everton is worth £2.5 million a year. Unless he's been paid in Bitcoin, he's not massively wealthy, but he's certainly better off than most folks.

He would not find a no-pressure situation at Sunderland. Third in League One but sacked their manager after a 6-0 loss at Bolton. The owner will tolerate nothing less than promotion back to the Championship.

This is inevitable, and Duncan, will find a club, no issue.

He and Carlo had a good relationship, but In would not be surprised to see Dunc, working either at Madrid, Sunderland, or Glasgow or the Toon.

He will look after himself, but loyalty some times has a price, in matters life and football!

Mike surprised he ison. £2. 5 million a year. Whats Unsworth on?????

Sad to see him go as he obviously loves the club as we all do, but it should absolutely the new manager's choice who his assistants are. Hopefully Dunc will take a job in Scotland or the Championship and be back in the PL at some point, wish him all the luck in the world.

Off topic but congratulations to Canada on a brilliant win today in the Hammer, beat the mighty US 2-0 to remain undefeated atop the CONCACAF qualifying group. And with our best player out!

Jerome

One knowledgeable (?) poster recently said Unsworth is paid in bags of peanuts. Then again he also said Dunc was a slave laborer at FF

Phil Jevons is was (?) first team coach at Sunderland unless he’s been sacked with the manager. Could have an FF reunion with Dunc if the Mackems overlook the fact Dunc is practically a Geordie

Neil @ 21-

Off topic, but I was in s damn surly mood earlier, and it all started with Zardes up top for the USMNT. He's shit, absolute shit, and our idiot head coach starts him with a chance to move atop the group.

Have you ever seen footballers hold the ball so fucking long in your life? I mean, The US just allowed Canada to find their shape while fucking about, zero quick passing and all "look at me" foot skills that went no where.

Congratulations Canada. You beat a flaccid, dally on the ball US team and deserved to win.

Just pissed.

Jamie, me too. Furious. Berhalter may have the best record ever for a USMNT manager, but his entire front line tonight was wrong, wrong, wrong from the kickoff. Should have been left-to-right Morris, Pepi and Pulisic instead of Pulisic, Zardes and Aaronsen.

And Pulisic is just playing miserably. Forcing, forcing, forcing, not getting into the flow with his teammates at all. Needs to sit the next game IMO.

Kieran #23, Jevons is still employed there at last word.

Mike/Jamie

Even if the US drop two places all they have to do is beat Chris Wood and some New Zealand lambs in a playoff. I wouldn’t get too downbeat

Mike -

You'll recall, with that steel-trap mind of yours, I was NOT in favor of the Barhalter hiring. He's a tinkering, "out-think the room" dude. When everything is so, so obvious and straightforward, he'll fuck about just for the sake of it. It's too long to recount, but I remember listening to him in an interview on Sirius and I about wrecked the car I was so aghast at his attitude and answers to questions.

Which brings me to Kieran -

This is, by far, the most talented USA squad since Donovan, Dempsey, Howard and the boys. Berhalter, with his brain-dead tactics, is killing us.

You talk of fourth place? Costa Rica is now officially on fire, only 5 points behind us, never mind 4th placed Panama. We go on the road to Mexico, host Panama, and finish at Costa Rica in March. We'd best get our act together, and our coach had best pull his head out of his ass quickly. Road wins in Concacaf are a rare thing!

Bob Bradley was a limited coach, but he knew where to play his players and which players to play. The US was set up properly just about every time, and we had some talent and pushed to the final 8. Berhalter literally hasn't got a fuckin' clue. If I had a choice between Rafa and Gregg, it would be a close call.

@ kieran Kinsella...Hey! don't drag the All whites into it:)... We can match anyone we face in the playoffs. The USA would be exactly the sort of team we can beat. nothing special about them really. They haven't done much that would scare any team really.I would be all good with people writing us off though

Maybe Don Carlo will make him an offer ? For his own good he needs to go out into the big world and gain more experience. There will always be a welcome at Goodison / Bramley Moore.

Dunc will be remembered for some stirring performances when Marco Silva was sacked. He helped calm down a very nervous fan base and paved the way for Ancelotti to settle in. I would be pleasantly surprised if he were to be offered a position in the Real Madrid coaching setup.

Kieran I remember Tony Abrahams posting that he had heard that Unsworth was on a absurb wage. Didn't want to post the amount just in case it wasn't right. But if Duncan was on £2. 5 million for carrying a kit bag the mind boggles in what Unsie could be on. No wonder Unsie enthused so much about Brands, after he was promoted to Head of the Academy on his reported say so. The Wages percentage to turnover would include these amounts.

Not a chance.

The only passion that I have seen at Everton in the last five seasons was from Dunc on the touch line.

Sad to see him go. Good luck for the future, and for me he will always be welcome back at Everton.

Jamie #28...

Sorry, that stuff about Bradley is bunk. Bradley was a glorified college coach. Played elementary alignments. Put center backs at left back just because they were left-footed. Put fucking midfielders at left back just because they were left-footed. Taught his teams to hustle and work because he was incapable of teaching them anything more sophisticated.

You don't like Berhalter, fine, I don't much either, but don't try to elevate Bob freaking Bradley into anything resembling an international manager. He went from the US to Egypt. He lasted 11 games at freaking Swansea. He was, and remains, the classic American sockuh coach. A clod.

It will hit him hard this but hopefully it will lead him into a managerial role in the lower leagues. Good luck and thanks for some great moments Duncan Ferguson - Everton Centre Forward!

No way would he be on anything like that much money for being a coach. Not a chance

I can only wish the guy well in his future career and thank him for taking the hot seat during periods when the club was in free fall.

He'll probably join Rooney at Derby, could be a good fit.

Mike,

“Ferguson’s current contract at Everton is worth £2.5 million a year.”

So he’s on £50,000 a week is he?? More than some of our players?? Just where did you get this gem from??

Yes we all love the big man, he is a blue but that cannot be a reason to be employed by Everton endlessly. We need a new era, as its not the 60s anymore. We have to be a professional outfit, and time for Duncan to try it in a different league like many others have done.

I feel Sunderland would be a good match, they are passionate up there and would take to Dunc. WBA is a gamble with a lit of pressure. Bon Voyage big man!

Paul Clement is a sound appointment, he brings experience.

Now what to do with Unsworth?

My lad has got a black long sleeved away shirt worn by Duncan at Chelsea, he was sent off for elbowing one of theirs in the face could it have been Lampard ???

According to a report I've just read Lampard has asked for Duncan to be retained. Source Paul Joyce

As much as I like Duncan, I think the best thing is for him to ' move and prove ' ! I wish him all the best, if he raids our squad how can we resist offers for Delph, Rondon, Iwobi, Holgate et al ?

Pat K @ 1, " We need to leave the past behind ". Where else could we leave it ? :-)

Paul Joyce reporting this morning that Lampard has asked Dunc to stay on.

Or even a successful present, Pat @1. Too many at this club live in and for, the past.

Len @ 41, at least Frank doesn't bear grudges, or does he ? :-)

All the best to him.

I've been an advocate of moving him on. It's apparent he's not going to be promoted to coach so what's the point of him being there?

We've given him an opportunity, and I liked that our club looks after their own, but it's time for him to go and coach in his own right.

I'd like to think he'll be back if he's successful but he's already arguably left it too late.

Asked to stay on it seems.

Seriously? Ferguson asked by Lampard to stay on? Surely not. If that is the case then the guy we have just employed is not the man for the job and Teary Bill is STILL pulling strings. I really hope that report is complete bollocks. We need a fresh start not a fucking Rewind gig.

Agreed John. I’m feeling a bit disappointed if it’s true. First misreading of Everton’s current predicament if so. Maybe it’s a courtesy thing and he’s hoping he’ll move on. I’m clutching at straws to find some hope its a new era and not project continuity.

Noel Cantwell when manager of Coventry City brought Ian Saint John, employed by Motherwell at the time, to be his assistant, later on Cantwell was sacked and Coventry offered the job to St. John, Ian said “ He brought me here I’ll walk out with him “ says it all for me.

Offer Duncan the part time job as meeter and greeter on match days at Goodison Park, if it was good enough for a true Everton legend Brian Labone it should be good enough for Duncan while he searches or is offered another permanent position in football.

I wanted Duncan until season end, with Allardyce on a pure temporary basis as a defensive coach, as I think our defence is in an utter mess and presents our biggest weak point which could yet see us relegated. That said, I think Lampard and Clement will do enough, and perhaps give us a cup run, who knows, maybe Duncan will be retained for a bit to ease the transition?

It's a pity that Van de Beek is cup-tied as we badly need a shake-up in midfield for the Brentford tie. It looks like we are down to anyone of Allan (if fit) Onyango, Gbamin and either of Godfrey or Holgate as back-up to fill the defensive midfield role if Gbamin is not selected? We could, I guess, look at Townsend for a central midfielder role as a reliable fall-back, but none of these options whet the appetite.

Anyway, whatever happens with Duncan, I trust he will be dealt with in a dignified way by the club, and I am sure we all wish him well whatever his destination.

Good luck, Dunc. it may not seem like it right now but this could be the making of you as a manager. Cut your teeth at pastures new then come back as the prodigal son when the time is right.

The chances of Ferguson choosing to leave are nil. EFC offer a comfortable job for life. Lampard should put him in charge of washing the kit.

This is when Duncan has to say "Thanks but no thanks."

If he stays, it's desperately sad" He's said himself "I don't have the experience to be the manager just yet."

"Dunc, just go and get that experience, put your hand up for the Sunderland job". If he stays to be the striker coach, then okay… but I'd rather he went to try and stretch himself.

Lampard wants Ferguson to stay. Just announced.

Just been mentioned Dunc is staying on. He has accepted Frank's offer to be part of the coaching staff.

Looks like Dunc is staying now.

Stefan, where did hear that Dunc has accepted the offer to stay ?

And I assume Unsworth will be retained, to continue his excellent work with the U23s and manage the continual, constant stream of outstanding youngsters, who become regular first-team players!

These guys couldn't get a job anywhere else so they stay at Teary Bill's home for lost waifs!

Jesus! What a basket-case of a club.

Good luck to Lampard, by the way. I am still a Blue Nose, just a very despondent one.

The Sunderland job, if a genuine link, could be good a good club for Duncan.

A lot of similarities in terms of support base and passion for their club and a rivalry with a neighbour that overshadows them.

The only difference is they are both one club cities and however brief it was, his association with the other side could mean a go toxic early scenario if it doesn't go well early doors.

We've been there right?

Go out there and prove yourself Duncan.

Be successfully and put yourself in the frame for the Everton job in future.

Otherwise, take a step back from the first team and go back to Finch Farm if the number one job isn't what you want or know isn't what you're capable of. At Everton or anywhere.

Stop teasing the Duncanites and fuelling the sceptics. Go and prove yourself.

On Sky, they are reporting that Duncan Ferguson and Alan Kelly will remain at the club. Didn't catch in what roles.

Thought this change might be the one that left Dunc out in the cold. Quite strange really that he has been No 2 for so many managers, and still never offered the main job.

Well, best of luck Dunc. You have been absolutely brilliant in your commitment to the club, and will go down as a legend in my book. Hope we see you back some day.

We've had more new coaches these last few years than National Express.

So Ferguson is staying on as what? Manager in waiting for the manager to be sacked. It's like having The Grim Reaper behind you.

I agree with John. There's no way I would want Ferguson on my team after I had just beaten him for the job. Be grateful to know if there are any more soft jobs at Everton paying £2.5M.

Duncan Ferguson has been retained as a coach, but don't know in what capacity.

Ashley Cole is coming as well apparently. I can't stand the man, but if he can improve our full-backs to be anywhere near as good as he was, I'm all for it.

Mike way back @34-

I'm not glorifying Bradley. Bang average, but could set up a team, unlike the tinkering fool at the helm presently.

And Bradley would stick midfielders at LB because in a country of 330 million, there was no left back to be found!!

Anyways, back to Dunc, dude needs to move on. Somewhere, anywhere, and get experience outside of the cushy confines of Finch Farm and Goodison.

Why is he staying on?? He needs to help with the youth academy and be part of the Blue culture with Unsy, and get out of the limelight if that's going to be the case of him staying.

Mike @ 18:

I knew of the bankruptcy but not exactly how much he lost as a result, if you know what I'm saying.

As to the salary, I'm stunned, Is it really confirmed that he's on that? It's not so many years back that I knew via a friend in the game, what some coaches were earning; it was nothing like that. Except for the very best, most sought (and the take everywhere right hand man type with top managers), they earned barely what the lowest paid players got, if that. A very good salary but not film star money.

Intuitively it surprises me to think that Duncan would earn more than many current players at the club. Maybe I'm out of date.

Another point occurs, Mike.

If Ferguson is on that kind of money at Everton, then many/most manager jobs in the lower leagues would be a drop in pay.

Is it enough to show your love for the club?

Duncan is a fan and Everton is his life, in his blood. It's never easy to move on.

I don't think money has ever been Duncan's purpose. Duncan has probably never thought working at Everton as a job but a way of life. Take that away, you take half the man!

Find him a role!! Loyalty is rare these days!!

He will never leave. He will not risk Sunderland or anywhere else. He is comfortable at Everton and will sit on the bench gurning forever. Lampard should keep him well away from everything.

If you search on the net worth and income of football coaches, they are all over the place. I take them with a large pinch of salt unless they are referenced to an official source.