Everton register interest in Southampton's Adams

Just read that we may be considering Che Adams.

Now this has been a good window so far but not Adams surely. Goals for last 3 seasons 8, 9, 5. In 110 games for the Saints, he has scored 21 goals. Not for me thanks.

Jack,

I'd rather stick with Rondon than Che fucking Adams.

I disagree.

Che Adams is a workhorse and will give you 100% every game. He’d certainly be an improvement on Rondon.

However, he’s not a goalscorer. If we were to bring him in to play the forward role alongside someone who gets goals, then he’d undoubtedly be a great foil for them. He’d do their running, and then some.

Jack,

I doubt the goals scored by Adams would be bettered by any of Kalajdzic, Gyorekes, Ajorque, Guirassy or Kalimuendo.

The only difference is that Kalimuendo could become a 15+ goal player whereas the others look more like 8-goal-a-season players (which is still a lot better than some seasoned Premier League strikers).

The Che Adams links I think fit in with our MO for this season. It's been a good window, but playing football this season we shall not be doing. When Coady picks up the ball on Saturday and looks for Neves and Moutinho he is going to get a very nasty surprise.

Best case scenario, we'll have a couple of destroyers in there. Fitting in with that theme, our forward will need to work hard and hold the ball up. That's it, cos we ain't gonna be providing any sort of service for him.

We'll be hard to beat, and hopefully good enough to avoid the scrap. But I think it's going to be a hard watch this year, and I think the fans will need to show a degree of patience. The key figure at our club now is Conor Coady.

8 goals a season for a side that does not have goal scoring midfielders is not going to work. Its fine if you have midfielders getting 10+ a season like Ward-Prowse, Bowen, De-Bruyne, Maddison etc. but we don't, there has to be alternatives to Adams. We need at least a 1 in 3 player, not a 1 in 5.

I'm always amazed no established side gave Pukki a chance – goals for fun in the championship, 11 in each of his 2 seasons in the prem in woefully poor Norwich sides, never injured. Shame he's 32.

No thanks.

Even though one of his middle names is Everton, it's a No from me.

I'd rather have kept Broadhead or Simms.

No, unless he's as good as Uncle Fester...

Give him a 5-year contract and £120k per week.

Why? I thought getting a goal scorer was a priority!

I bloody hope not!!!

After 48 years of supporting Everton, I've had enough of us with non-goalscoring strikers! We should have kept Simms and Dobbin at least.

No for me. He is a tryer, a hard worker, an honest player but I can’t say I’ve ever watched him and wished we signed him.

No, no, no.

Why can't we fap up Ancelotti and see if Madrid would be willing to loan is a couple of their upcoming players.

I don't see the value in bringing in any of the linked strikers as none of them really score goals.

We need goals, not someone to fill a psychological void by calling himself a "striker." Any one of these guys would immediately be regarded as dead wood a la Kone.

Can we have a font tool in this rejuvenated site so that I can post a massive "NO".

NO

How's that for service? ; )

Brilliant! (in "Font Imagined")

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It is hard to imagine him improving much so why pay him to sit on our bench.

The font of all knowedge, Will?

And a nice little trip to Fleetwood in the Carabao.

Yes! To that beautiful No.

Zirkzee has been mentioned on the other thread would be the kind of signing to get the juices flowing. Young, some good experience in the tank, ready to push on, plenty of upside, could take over the no1 role in a year or two. Broja in the same category.

Brent. it probably is...

Is there a striker out there who Everton genuinely have an interest in?

The wage bill must be enormous especially as they are paying for some who are crocked.

Would they be contemplating a trade for someone who can score.

It will be interesting to see if anyone with the right credentials comes in before the deadline or will we be struggling with just a defensive game until the next window.

Tom, someone's coming, from all this activity. We couldn't survive as a team without it.

I like the guy, got to be better than a crocked Dom or Rondon.

Our two attacking threats, Gray and Gordon, were non-existent and we really need at least one of them to step up at a very winnable Villa Park. Especially if Rondon has to start as he will make a nuisance of himself waiting for one of them to run on.

Has Gordon got a goal or a shot in him? We still don’t really know. I’m edging to the belief to let Newcastle find out, to pay for Broja or whoever.

Brian,

I was talking with Brian Wilkinson regarding Gordon or Gray on that same issue. I think Gray has proved with the goals and near misses, last season that he's got an eye for a goal and a powerful shot. He needs to be used more as an attacking midfielder/winger.

I don't think Gordon has shown up in that respect you've mentioned. If there was a choice, I'd rather see Rondon and Gray, with Gordon as a sub.

Thanks but no.

Marcus Bent II.

I think it's clear that with strengthening our defence and midfield, this season we are aiming for as many 1-0 wins as possible. They still count for 3 points.

As the old saying goes, "Rome wasn't built in a day", so if we can't get a top notch striker in this window,, we shall depend on not conceding soft goals by being tight at the back and in midfield, and hope to grab a one goal lead and hold on to it, whereever possible.

Seeing how, strangely after all the warnings about our problems with FFP, it now seems that we have money to spend, I think if we have got around say £30 million – we should do everything we can to persuade Chelsea to sell us Armando Broja. They were prepared to sell him to West Ham for that figure so why not offer the same? I know the deal broke down as West Ham couldn't agree personal terms.

I think Broja has everything we need he is big and strong, good in the air and no slouch on the floor, also has a good first touch. I think he has been Lampard's first choice right through this window and I couldn't understand when the West Ham offer was accepted why we didn't match it, maybe we wanted a loan-to-buy deal.

Not sure if Chelsea would go for that given they have already spent heavilly and are likely to add to that expenditure, but I don't want a loan deal were Chelsea see how good he is and take him back next season.

I thought we should have signed him before Saints picked him up. It took him a while to get that first Premier League goal, but he isn't out of place in this league.

Fairly surprised they're letting him go. I think he could be a useful option, depends on the price really!

Hasenhüttl has come out and said Adams is going nowhere... another one bites the dust.

Oh for fuck's sake, Adams & Maupay? Why not just go after the lad Brereton from Blackburn now his £15M move to Seville is off.

Whatever happend to that Brazilian wonderkid we were supposed to be signing a few seasons ago?

Denis #33

That would be the same Marcus Bent who led the line for us when we finished 4th. A genuine false 9 in that he never scored but somehow the team clicked around him. I'd take that as a back-up to Calvert-Lewin

Che Adams has no close control- that makes him a non-starter for me.

The same Marcus Bent who scored 6 of the 45 goals we scored that season? Who averaged a goal every 5 games. That would do me as well.

I think I'm generally considered a positive poster. Glass half-full. Optimistic. Happy clapper. However you want to frame it, I always try to look at the plus side.

But Marcus Bent? Corner-flag chaser. I suppose that's what Moyes wanted from his strikers though. He even tried to make James Beattie do it, but he was carrying a bit too much timber at the time. I remember Beattie coming over to the fans at Fulham away. He wasn't playing, not even changed – in normal clothes. He looked way out of shape.

Jelavic in his first 6 months was a revelation. Master of being in the 6-yard box, taking a late step back to give himself space and sweep one into the net. The following season, he's chasing balls into the corner and trying to cross. To no-one. Because he's the one who was supposed to be in the box.

I digress. I don't even know who this Che Adams is, so can't comment. So far this summer, I'll just trust the DoF and manager to get on with getting the players they want. I'll just watch and support.

Danny #42

Awful player, terrible season...we only finished 4th!

If I recall, Brendan, we finished 4th because despite doing our best not to in the run in, every time we slipped up, our cousins did likewise. We were there for the taking. Someone who wants to look at the stats can call me out, but that's how I remember it.

The dream was good as long as it lasted.

But Marcus Bent. No thanks. All about opinions.

Danny #44

But the cousins didn't overtake us.

Wouldn't disagree with a lot of that but I can't understand the urge to devalue our highest league finish since we were last champions?

We were simply better overall than Liverpool that season...the table doesn't lie!

I'm not, Brendan. I was talking about Marcus Bent as a striker.

Wasn't that the lowest points tally to qualify? 54-ish? We then crashed and burned on the main stage. Yes, dodgy decision in the qualifier, but the team showed it's true colours in the subsequent embarrassment of Bucharest in the Uefa / Europa League or whatever it was called then.

Whereas in Martinez's first season, the 70+ points tally saw us miss out and finish 5th.

I guess you're only as good as what's around you.

Danny #46,

Pretty sure you were... in fact you didn't mention Marcus Bent in your previous post (#44) until the final sentence of your post.

Martinez? I mean he was years later... don't get the relevance?

Is 4th in the league an achievement (not in NSNO terms obviously) that should be denied by Evertonians?

I seem to remember you being quite upbeat about the fact that we were heading into the last game of the season under Carlo with a very unlikely chance of qualifying for Europe?

What's the difference, Danny?

Brendan, you're framing you're argument.

My original comment on the subject of Marcus Bent is at post 42 – first line, second paragraph.

We're all allowed to have different views on different players right?

I think you brought the European qualification into it, not me. I was (post 42) commenting on Marcus Bent and other Everton strikers.

I was made up Everton qualified for Europe. I'm not dismissing it at all, just as I wouldn't have had we limped over the line with Ancelotti. I was just stating that we'd done so with good fortune. You could argue that, under Ancelotti, we didn't have such good fortune.

Fair enough, Danny #48.

There's something about "The harder I work, the luckier I get" ringing in my head but I'll leave it there.

Enjoyed the banter... let's just hope your good wife is the unhappy one in the O'Neill household tomorrow.

Likewise, Brendan, always good to debate on here with the likes of your good self.

I always try to be diplomatic on these match days. It usually lasts about 20 seconds.