Everton under Friedkin

Our use of those markets over the past two years has been poor with at least one loan player never (or hardly ever) playing and others being bit part players. Only Harrison has been a regular starter with loan players over the past 2 years.

So, as seems likely with your analysis of Friedkin's methods, we really need to find four really good loans for key positions, especially if we sell Onana and Branthwaite. I hope Thelwell has better judgement this year than he has in the past; otherwise, we could be in for another difficult season.

our recent history to recognise the absence of any of the above can be disastrous.

There's so much to tell about the chaos of the last 12 months (if not longer) a period of stability, of financial management and decent comminications will be a welcome advance. They also know that whilst they will enjoy a honeymoon of sorts, progress on the pitch is what fans (rightly) want to see

Leaving the football side to the Manager (hopefully, Dyche) and Thelwell, to carry out a search for best we can get, in loans and perhaps steady players that don't cost much.

You've shown how many good value players are knocking about and, hopefully, we'll look at bringing in youngsters with talent.

Even without the threat of the Premier League coming for us again, it's likely to be a hard season.

As for the last lot in charge? Professionalism, Integrity, Business Acumen! I don't think they knew what those words meant.

If we're lucky, we won't get any more points deducted, but whether or not, our season and our future depends on us staying up, but equally, if not more importantly, is getting the good ship Everton on an even keel and staying afloat.

If his bid is successful, and it looks like he's the one, he's certainly proved he's a good businessman, wants success and knows how to achieve it.

I’ve been watching a few old videos this morning, videos that always get my Everton Emotions started, and it’s quite clear that the only time Evertonians have really been truly united over the last couple of decades, is when we have helped pull the club clear of relegation.

Give Everton Football Club, true professionalism, genuine integrity and clever business people and I’m absolutely certain that the fans will do the rest.

I’m not talking being champions overnight, but even the Mickey Mouse Cup, would feel like heaven for the thousands of absolutely fantastic and fanatical Evertonians, who have truly stood the test of time - Potless.

I just want this sorting out one way or another and eagerly await the fixtures being released next week.

Tony. The League Cup. Just give us it. Partly to bury my demon, but also to give my son and nephew, as well as countless young Evertonians something.

Give us Europe. Forget the Scottish, thousands of Evertonians would travel ticket or not.

Then we go and rebuild this great club of ours. I will never stop, I just want those young supporters to have something other listening to the likes of me.

I stood on the Stretford end in 1977 for the league cup final second replay convinced it was going to be our year, now 47 years on it still frustrates the life out of me how this club has not achieved at least one Mickey Mouse cup. Whenever the subject is raised I always go on the defence and tell them we would have won it in 70/71 with our 1st Division winning side but didn’t bother entering, the rules were changed the following season that made entry compulsory.

A couple of good unexpected results and possible struggles with manager/player turnover in the top six and we may be in a speculative position by January. Then is when Friedkin tells Thelwell to go get the new improved Super Kev; the one that gets us in European competition again.

That and European Qualification – even if just the Europa Conference League.

' I will try to explain who the two sharks are, father, who have been killing Roma for four years. Dan and Ryan Friedkin are two sleazy speculators who took Roma for two cents.

They exploited the debt that the old management had, since without debt they would have had to pay it out of their own pockets.

They only paid out of their own pocket the part given to James Pallott, i.e. 190 million euros that the old owner had put in from his pocket.

This cost Roma to the Friedkins.

The rest, to reach the 590 million, or Roma's valuation, they financed the remaining 400 million euros of debt with JP Morgan.

They didn't pay them, but they shouldered them. It's very different!

And they spread them over the management and subsequent financial statements, signing the settlement agreement in agreement with Ceferin, thus effectively blocking expenses and investments, paying the debt with Roma's own money, or rather with the money that Roma produces: transfers, capital gains, takings, UEFA prizes, stadium, box office, sold-out, sponsors, TV rights, merchandising... But the worst will come next season: Lukaku returns to Chelsea, Dybala sold, the poor players we have all remain and will be supported from a maximum of two other poor players that the new sports board will take in France. Next season we will return, after 45 years, to fight to save ourselves from Serie B.

An interesting view

I don't always agree but you are an object lesson in how to present without hostile tantrums and melodrama exactly how the forum should be

Well done

Ray #15 - that sounds like you've taken that from somewhere else ("we will return" etc). What's the source?

"...paying the debt with Roma's own money". Alarmingly, that has the Glazers written all over it - a high level of leveraged debt, which it seems has been shifted onto the club and off the owners. If so, we should be worried. Ask any Man Utd fan.

All I want is a plan that improves our situation year on year.
Football-wise, that means three things:

1. Intelligent player trading. It’s going to become harder to ‘do a Brighton’ as there are very few clubs who can afford to buy players for the sums that Cucurella, Sanchez and Caicedo went for, but we have to have a scouting network and DoF who can buy players that both improve the team in the short term and could generate trading profits in the long term.

2. Intelligent use of the free agent market. Player wage demands may be the stumbling block to this, but every year there are a few quality, experienced players who could have a positive impact but we rarely seem to take advantage.

3. Youth Development. The big one. Obviously we have produced some very good players over the years, but I’ve always thought that there is still so much untapped potential on Merseyside. We also seem to fail in that crucial 18-21 age group where players need to go from promising youngsters to first team footballer. There is expertise out there, including at the FA whose programmes have improved hugely in the last decade. We don’t seem to produce even decent squad players. The recent release of Lewis Warrington and McKenzie Hunt are a clear example. A couple of lower league loans and then released for nothing. I can’t judge these individuals as I don’t watch them much, but their careers don’t seem to be managed intelligently enough. Even just giving them some first team exposure occasionally would improve them as players and increase their value for sales, but we don’t seem to do it. I can’t believe that they’re so bad that they would have cost us points by coming on fresh in the second half of games when we were tiring. We could either raise ‘pure profit’ through sales or have a deeper squad of cheaper players who care more about the club if we get this right.

At the moment we seem to be fire-fighting both on and off the pitch, and we’re just about managing, but it’s costing us in terms of building anything for the long term. The new owners need a clear plan, which they can explain openly and honestly, about what small improvements are going to be made year on year.

Whilst it’s not what we dreamed of, it will be enough to engage me (and most Evertonians I suspect) to see that we are at least moving in the right direction. We will just have to accept that the destination is a long way off.

Peter, thanks for that. That's much more reassuring! So we won't end up with the likes of the Glazers and wanting to do a defenestration job!

No investor will play Father Xmas and nor should they with PSR and FFP hovering over us.

We have to find a way to manage our way back to the top something that proved impossible under dumb and dumber.

Looking forward to the fixture list for next season which is out tomorrow.

UTFTs!

Just get it sorted.

And get the fixture list out so we can all start planning!

Hopefully, hopefully, deliverance and salvation will be soon, for Everton.
UTFTs!

The ales this p.m. ( don't take too many these days) has enhanced my maths again🍻🍻🍻😂🙏
UTFTs!

Interesting link that. Looks like he will at least know some of the issues facing us.

In our case, he does not have a minority share issue to manage- or not much of one- but he is faced with a lot more debt than even Roma accrued and how that is dealt with in this acquisition will be the key to whether we can look forward to a hair shirt or something a little more comfortable. If we are forced to sell Jarrod, hair shirt it is. For me that would be a bad start.

Interesting how it works in Italy. Some people here seem to think we can tap the state up for some investment funds for development. The local Italian government sees the money needing to come the other way.

Moshiri gambled and lost big time, at least give the guy credit for trying, Friedkin its seems will probably go with the pragmatic approach.
With few exceptions though, position in the League is determined by how much is spent on players. How valuable the squad is.
So if you take that as fact we are likely to be bouncing along the bottom again this next season.

Its going to be vital that the scouting system is much improved on recent times, thats area where we have been poor.

If this takeover comes to fruition we have a solvent club again and we are still in the ball game, and oh a brand new stadium.

But I suspect all clubs are in the same boat, of paying too many players big contracts that they can't get rid of. And so the clubs have to wear those contracts until the situation can be addressed. Only then can you redirect cashflow into cheaper, emerging talent. Until then it's treading water.

Arsenal under Arteta did a good job in clearing the decks of very high earners - Ozil, Aubameyang, etc were successfully moved on, and he brought in better lower paid players.

Unfortunately, no. That's because the wages / transfer fees in the Premier League are higher too. Also, we're in a much bigger mess than Roma.

Anthony # 37, the article is intended to be realistic rather than negative - although I appreciate it's not a stirring read. Unfortunately, there are already 8 extremely wealthy clubs in the Premier League who we are seriously adrift of. We could spend £300m this summer and still have a weaker squad than the likes of Villa, Spurs and Newcastle. No new owners are going to come in and try to spend their way to success.

It might sound a bit boring, but under Moshiri relegation and insolvency had become a case of when not if. The turnaround, though not quick, at least looks like it's about to start.

As fans we'll need to be patient and pragmatic over the next couple of seasons. Moving away from relegation battles and solidifying mid table security over the course of next season and our first season at Bramley Moore.

The next 24 months I expect the commercial side to vastly improve as well as other areas including our academy/scouting plus the general communications from the club to trend in an upwards direction. Hopefully by the the third or fourth season at Bramley Moore we can witness some great european nights again but until then it's going to be a patient build up.

Let's hope it's not another example of Goodbye Boris, hello Liz aarrrgghhhhhh. That would be very Everton !

Fixtures out tomorrow.

I struggle to think of owners in recent top flight football who aren't in it for their own interests, so I won't concern myself with that.

Having spent years in the States (I've been to 30 of the 50), pet hate. Stop saying Yanks.

I will call on the American cohort to correct me, but if you call someone from from the southern states a Yank, they will likely be offended.

They are American.

Let's get this one over the line and then make arrangements for the first match.

Initially at Roma there was more than a hint of Moshiri about Friedkin's approach. But he seems to have learned after that.

I don't think that things could get a whole lot worse than under Moshiri but I also don't think that Friedkin will make things a whole lot better (at least on the pitch) for a while. The thing that worries me the most is that he appointed Mourinho, who in my opinion has looked an expensive flop since his last season at United. One of the biggest flaws in Moshiri was not putting in place the right managers, board, DOFs to bring progress. Lets hope Friedkin has better judgement when it comes to appointing leaders.

Hopefully this turns out to be the best bid but a part of me is still very concerned that things are not what they seem.

I hope my information is wrong but, I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if this wasn’t a complete 100% buyout, when you consider everything that has gone on before, and especially in the last bemusing 12 months, that you mentioned.

More of the same but more organised won't get us fighting for top 10.

I don't know enough about the details of all prospective new owners or how much they have bid for the club but joining up with the Roma owners who have just come out of their own psr mess doesn't exactly fill me with confidence.

New season around the corner, expectations at an all time low. Touting our best players around to the highest bidder, I am fed up with the lot of it.

Or Damn Yankees if referring to the baseball team?

Tony #47, so this guy is still not your Titanic Hotel bidders?

Rob #49, or touting our players to the lowest bidder re: Branthwaite!

There's nothing wrong with prudence as long as you are making progress!

I think there are bigger gains to be had at Everton (in terms of league position, at least) for less investment. With some squad upgrades, it's entirely possible for Everton to finish just inside the top half of the table.

I think minor short-term upgrades, getting to the new stadium - think players coming to the end of their career (like Barry, Distin), - supported by youth/academy players bought in for the longer term 3-5 years - with a view to winning cups and European places in 5 years I imagine.

Same people in charge?

Not quite mate. 😉

I don’t mind the new owners being tight and implementing necessary cost cutting, as long as there is a clear plan for steady, gradual, sustainable improvement.

Get a good deal over a 5-10 year period, and that could transform the finances.