Column Premier League Squads: We will finish 9th Squad valuation is perhaps one of the strongest predictors of relative success, or lack of it, in the Premier League. Robert Tressell 1 September 2025 9comments (last) Last summer, I did an article which predicted where Everton would finish, based on the comparative value of the playing squads — Premier League Squads: We will finish 12th. After a lot of twists and turns, I ended up being out by one place. Luck or skill or stating the bleeding obvious? You decide… This summer, I have done a similar bit of guesswork and come up with a probable 9th-place finish (within a range of 8th to 12th). Reasons below – with the (much despised?) TransferMarkt squad values as a bit of a guide as to the different tranches within the Premier League. I know TransferMarkt has its flaws but those same flaws affect all clubs in much the same way – and it’s independent too – which ToffeeWeb readers are not. So, warts and all, it does represent a decent guide but (as the analysis below shows) doesn’t tell the full story by any stretch. €1B(+) squads This is the super league that already exists. The seriously rich bastards with incredible squads and academies too. Might not all finish Top 4 mind you, but certainly should do. Chelsea are the weirdest amongst this lot but Man City are waning and no longer have anything like the best players anymore. 1. Arsenal2. Manchester City3. Chelsea4. Liverpool We won’t get into the Top 4 Premier League placings. €700M to €920M squads These are the pretenders to the Top 4. Spurs look very good out of this lot – with a manager who actually knows how to organise a defence now in charge of a very good squad closing in on the Top 4. In Muani, Tel, Simons and Kudus, they have added serious talent to an already strong squad appallingly managed (in the Premier League) by Postecoglou. Man Utd continue to be weird. Newcastle are probably weaker without Isak, their one true world class player (and I don’t buy the idea that they’ve materially improved the quality of the squad overall). Whilst Spurs are looking up, Man Utd and Newcastle risk dropping down. 5. Tottenham Hotspur6. Manchester Utd7. Newcastle Utd It seems very unlikely we would break into a Top 7 Premier League placing. There’s a gulf of €250M difference between Newcastle at the bottom of this tranche and us. That is two new right-backs, a holding midfielder, a new first-choice left-back, and a striker of real quality. It makes a big difference. Getting Top 7 would require some very serious overperformance. There are likelier candidates than us in the tranches below. Still, stranger things have happened. If we pick up early momentum and get lucky with injuries, then it is possible. €400M to €600M squads Nottingham Forest are really going for it. Whether it is sustainable is another matter but they have continued the heavy year-on-year spending and now have a really good squad, ready for their European adventure and what appears to be an ambition to spend their way into a Big 8 (as West Ham and Villa have previously attempted). They might make the Top 7 again – but you also get the sense they are gambling their way into the Champions League – and if they don’t make it, they could be seriously screwed in a year or two. Brighton are weaker than last year and the jury is out on Hurzeler. Aston Villa are sinking like a stone and are unlikely to get anywhere near 5th place this season. They seem to have helped prove my theory that money attracts players – not the Europa League. Crystal Palace and Brentford could have really difficult seasons ahead. These three could struggle to make the Top 10 despite having good squads still, and some players who would certainly lift our side (Guehi, Munoz, Wharton, Mateta, Mitchell at Palace in particular). However, if you are no longer on an upward trajectory, you are on a downward trajectory — and (as we’ve seen) that is really tough. 8. Nottingham Forest9. Brighton & Hove Albion10. Aston Villa11. Crystal Palace12. Brentford We should definitely kick on into this group – despite our squad being ranked in the tranche below. Indeed, some of these clubs (especially Brentford after Mbuemo and Frank… and possibly with an unhappy Wissa) could even find themselves in a relegation fight. We’re unlikely to finish above all of these clubs, however, since they do still have good players and / or good managers. €300M to €400M squads We are the only club in this group on an upward trajectory. Bournemouth have sold big and despite reinvesting, have not replaced with the same quality. However, they are still pretty good and have a good manager. Fulham have weakened an already small squad and made essentially no replacements. Much will be expected of young Josh King. They will rely on Silva (a good manager) to keep them out of trouble. West Ham and especially Wolves look shaky. The spending has stopped, many of the stars have gone (Kudus, Cunha and Ait Nouri). 13. Bournemouth14. West Ham Utd15. Everton16. Wolverhampton Wanderers17. Fulham All of these bar us and Bournemouth are at genuine relegation risk. That said, West Ham still have Bowen and Paqueta and plenty of other good players. It would only be managerial incompetence from Potter that could take them down. We have top quality in Pickford, Branthwaite, Grealish and Ndiaye – but glaring weakness at full back and a small squad overstocked with central midfield players (and light in other areas). Barry and Beto will be a handful and score goals but will also look rubbish at times. We look too slow and too narrow and it will cause us problems over the course of the season. It has been a good window (especially by contrast with the extreme cost-cutting since 2021) – but a weird window too, let’s be honest. Although Mykolenko and O’Brien have their moments, they would be strong candidates for the worst full-back pairing in the Premier League. It’s staggering we haven’t bought at least one right-back… just staggering. Maybe Moyes has seen something in Nathan Patterson or even Roman Dixon that meant we didn’t sign the player(s) we have appeared to need since Coleman broke his leg. €240M to €300M squads 18. Leeds Utd19. Sunderland20. Burnley Leeds are only €3.5M off having a £300M squad and a fully fit first XI is really not that far off us (as we saw from the close match-up – player for player – in our opening game). Sunderland have a whole new (almost exclusively French-speaking) first XI, including some very good players who would walk into our First XI. Indeed, they have in Hulme, Geertruida and Mukiele – three right-backs who are all better than our (non-existent?) right-backs. Both Leeds and Sunderland have a decent chance of staying up (probably at the expense of Wolves). Burnley have the weakest squad by some distance – and although they were mean defensively in the Championship, they just won’t be able to maintain that against the quality attacking sides of the Premier League. They will surely go down. Who cares though? The important thing is that we are well out of this now and should be nowhere near the relegation places for the course of the season. Reader Comments (9) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Michael Kenrick 1 Posted 03/09/2025 at 21:23:07 Nice tabulation job, Robert.But how do you get us from our rightful place of 15th all the way up to 9th? Or is that the Everton fan in you fighting the system? Robert Tressell 2 Posted 03/09/2025 at 21:52:08 Michael - the article seems to be introduced with this "Squad valuation is perhaps one of the strongest predictors of relative success, or lack of it, in the Premier League."I didn't write any of that. An editor must have done so.It's important because that is not really the point of the article. The point of the article is that I expect us (because of the fortunes of others as well as our own situation) to materially overperform the valuation of our squad - which is still very low if you compare it to other Premier League clubs. Ian Bennett 3 Posted 03/09/2025 at 21:56:37 I think there's some more obvious things to look at.The team can score, the team can keep it tight. It can fight it out, it can be a difficult team at a fierce home ground, and is now picking up away wins at a good regularity we haven't seen in decades. Wolves, Newcastle, Palace, Forest, Fulham, Brighton, off the top of my head in a small number of games.The home form will improve, but winning away is hard at at any level. We are a tough unit, and have an experienced manager that knows the game. A fair number of the defeats have come from narrow defeats where theres been a single player error or poor officials. Slim margins, and with game changers, that could change further for the better.These are all positive things, and in my opinion are more valuable than some hipsters choice at left back or right back. They might be less pleasing on the eye, but a defensive right back or left back like Mykolenko or Obrien would probably take a team like Brentford, Brighton, more forward, as they wouldn't concede at the rate they do. The back 4 can see a game out.I am expecting a good tilt on the cups. The strong line up the other week has already shown the hand that Everton are serious for the cups. 10th on the league is par. Below that, it will be a disappointment. 8th a strong build in the first full year of the Friedkins. Robert Tressell 4 Posted 03/09/2025 at 22:07:27 Ian, I can't tell whether you agree with the article or not - but you seem to draw the same sort of conclusion anyway. I say we'll finish 9th - and you seem to be going for 8th to 10th?You mention cups. I hope we take them seriously too. We can beat anyone in a one off cup tie and should approach it that way. There's no glory in finishing 8th to 10th - which will be about our limit this season (7th at a real push). But there is glory in a cup win - and it would really launch us into something special at the new stadium. John Raftery 5 Posted 03/09/2025 at 22:11:00 Given the significant uplift in our attacking quality 12th would be disappointing. An 8th place finish is definitely at the top end of most sensible expectations. The European commitments of the likes of Forest and Palace might have a negative effect on their league form. In that regard our home game against Palace on 5th October, three days after their Europa Conference League tie with Dynamo Kyiv in Poland, will give us an indication of how well they can cope. Si Cooper 6 Posted 03/09/2025 at 22:17:16 During the transfer window there were posts that suggested that Roma had a surfeit of full backs and we might benefit from some intra-stable trading.That went quiet, presumably because we werent that interested in them or vice versa. Should that attitude change after the transfer window has shut is there a way of exploiting it?I read that Sevilla terminated Kelechi Iheanachos contract by mutual consent to make it easier for him to find another club and then he signed for Celtic. Could Roma do that for one of their players if he assesses his current competition and decides hes got a better chance of being a starter for us than at Roma? Or are there rules in place that prevent such a thing from happening? Michael Kenrick 7 Posted 03/09/2025 at 22:22:34 Surely you jest, Robert.You have banged your drum relentlessly that our place is determined by squad valuation, and that it's virtually impossible to break out from the straight-jacket that imposes. You structured the article accordingly. Are you now saying it's not as important as you have told us previously? That somehow we are going to jump up six places — for no apparent reason? Robert Tressell 8 Posted 03/09/2025 at 22:48:43 Squad quality, Michael. That's the key thing. And a lot of that comes down to money unfortunately (something we have had very little of).The independent valuations form an interesting point of reference. You'll note I've mentioned aggregate net spend too once or twice. And spending levels year on year too. That's a good indicator of upward trajectory or downward trajectory. This summer there have been some abrupt changes on that score.Yes, as Ian says, there's a lot to unpack with this sort of thing. But I'm not writing a thesis here (you'll be pleased to know). I'm just using the valuations as a guide - and saying how / why I think we'll over perform that valuation.Some of that is because we've started to correct a crap squad by spending again - coincidentally at a time when other peers are having to switch off spending and dismantle good sides. Some of that is because I think Moyes will overperform. But I think he's also limited by serious flaws in the playing squad still (something else I like to labour Michael - the lack of pace and width which imposes tactical constraints). Martin Reppion 9 Posted 03/09/2025 at 23:24:36 Si #6As I understand it, a player must be a free agent prior to the transfer deadline to be able to sign for a new club during the closed season for transfers.If a player is released after the deadline, he must wait until the next window to join another club. 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