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Everton will play Southampton in the Carabao Cup Third Round.

The Blues avoided playing any of this season's participants in European competition in this evening's modified draw.  

With Champions League and Europa League games now taking place in different weeks, the English clubs taking part in those competitions were seeded and kept apart in a special pre-draw where home and away were determined.

Everton were ball No.11 and were paired with Southampton in one of the later ties drawn by Michael Dawson and Les Ferdinand once the ties involving the Euro clubs had been settled.

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Ties for the third round will take place in the weeks commencing 16th September for those involving the Champions League teams and 23rd September for Europa League participants, with the timing of Everton's tie likely to be dictated by Liverpool's schedule should they begin their Champions League campaign at home.

Full Draw:

Liverpool vs West Ham
Man City vs Watford
Arsenal vs Bolton
Man United vs Barnsley
Wycombe vs Aston Villa
Coventry vs Tottenham
Walsall vs Leicester
Brentford vs Leyton Orient
Blackpool vs Sheffield Wednesday
Preston vs Fulham
Everton vs Southampton
QPR vs Crystal Palace
Stoke City vs Fleetwood
Brighton vs Wolves
Wimbledon vs Newcastle
Chelsea vs Barrow

 

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Rob Halligan
1 Posted 28/08/2024 at 19:44:03
Absolute farce!! A mini-draw has just taken place to determine whether the six teams in Europe will be at home or away in the 3rd round of the Carabao Cup. Ten balls in an open jar with H or A on it.

The ridiculous thing was the H balls were red and the A balls white, so you could easily see what colour ball was being pulled out. The first four balls were all red, and the last two white.

The main draw later on will then have those six teams in their own pot, so I guess they will all be drawn first, eg, Arsenal come out first, then a ball from the other pot will be the away team. This will go on for the first four games, until games five and six, when teams from the main pot will be drawn at home against either of the remaining two teams in Europe.

The draw will then continue as normal.

Christine Foster
2 Posted 28/08/2024 at 20:16:56
Rob, all teams are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Absolute disgrace of a draw, bias and preferential treatment given to ensure certain teams have a far better chance of progress than any other teams.

Bias to European teams is now built-in, denying lesser teams home draws thereby destroying the spirit of a cup competition. On top of all that, it's already split into North and South draws, officially rigged.

Rob Halligan
3 Posted 28/08/2024 at 21:15:41
Christine, it's something to do with the increase in the number of Champions League games, but I honestly don't see why those teams should be kept apart from each other?

Also, why are Man Utd and Spurs included in this farce? They're not even in the Champions League.

Neil Tyrrell
4 Posted 28/08/2024 at 21:56:33
Sky 6 have won 18 out of the last 20 League Cups (including all of the last 11), and in 13 of those finals were playing against each other (per Wikipedia). And now they're getting extra help with the draws.

Apart from the income from a home draw, it's barely worth entering the competition for everyone else.

Paul Hewitt
5 Posted 28/08/2024 at 21:58:58
This League Cup rubbish with the teams in Europe in a different pot. This is why football will kill itself and personally I hope it does.

It's not a sport anymore really. It's just about helping the top teams make more money. Just sod off to your European Super League, please.

I don't enjoy football anywhere near as much as I did when I started watching in the early '80s.

Rob Halligan
6 Posted 28/08/2024 at 22:13:04
We don't want to be one of the first six teams drawn out from the proper pot, and certainly not the first four, because they will all be away.
Colin Callaghan
7 Posted 28/08/2024 at 22:28:08
The lower league teams want to be matched up against the biggest clubs.

Are teams like Wimbledon and Fleetwood complaining??

Forgive me but the League Cup shouldn't care at all about the teams in the bottom of the Premier League or the Championship.

Rob Halligan
8 Posted 28/08/2024 at 22:44:15
Southampton at home.

Better the devil you know!

Denver Daniels
9 Posted 28/08/2024 at 22:44:47
Home against Southampton.

Could have been worse.

Mike Hayes
10 Posted 28/08/2024 at 22:46:06
At least we got the home draw 💙
David Cooper
11 Posted 28/08/2024 at 22:46:08
Everton v Saints
Brian Williams
12 Posted 28/08/2024 at 22:46:27
Did they explain why the first for Euro clubs get drawn at home and the other two away? 🤔

Sorry if it's already been covered.

Whatever the reason, it's total shite. Just put all the fucking balls in a bowl, for fuck's sake.

Rob Halligan
13 Posted 28/08/2024 at 23:17:38
Brian,

It's all to with the extra games in the Champions League and Europa League. They didn't want any clubs clashing in the Carabao Cup in the same week as the European games take place, so the next round of the Carabao Cup is over two weeks.

Derek Knox
14 Posted 29/08/2024 at 02:56:45
At least we are at home.

I don't know a lot about Southampton these days but they have started better than us in the Premier League.

Hoping we can be looking forward to the next draw!

Eric Myles
15 Posted 29/08/2024 at 03:40:00
Derek,

Saints have won exactly the same number of games as us and scored exactly the same number of goals as us, they just maybe have a better defence than us!

Brian Cleveland
16 Posted 29/08/2024 at 05:14:06
So Eric, we can look forward to an entertaining 0-0.

I can't wait for the penalties!

Danny O’Neill
17 Posted 29/08/2024 at 05:40:17
We're at Goodison so should go into this with confidence. There were a few who stated Doncaster as favourites.

Never a given, but I'd back us to go through.

Jim Bennings
18 Posted 29/08/2024 at 06:18:29
You can't ask for much more than a home draw against a tram likely to be in the Bottom 5 at the end of the season.

If we lose this then we don't deserve to win Cups.

Mark Murphy
19 Posted 29/08/2024 at 06:54:01
We've got Blackpool, Jim??? 😘
Paul Birmingham
20 Posted 29/08/2024 at 07:10:13
A home draw and the chance to beat Southampton.

Massive game on Saturday v Bournemouth.

UTFTs!

Paul Ferry
21 Posted 29/08/2024 at 07:28:27
Jim Bennings 11,

You can't ask for much more than a home draw against a tram likely to be in the Bottom 5 at the end of the season. If we lose this then we don't deserve to win Cups.

I very much suspect that Saints fans are saying exactly the same about us away Jim.

Ted Roberts
22 Posted 29/08/2024 at 08:26:51
Interesting draw for us, home “advantage”?? Looking forward to it.

After last season's point deduction farce and the ongoing ownership debacle, I have promised myself to try to “dull the noise” and stare straight through the “smoke screens” of corruption to get myself back to the way I felt back at the start of my Everton journey in March 1970, every game being the driving force of my journey.

I have no head for business and I must confess that the events of recent years off the pitch have greatly distracted me, but I so much want to be that 13-year-old lad again watching my heroes in blue from within the Boys Pen, taking it all in, every kick, every tackle, every goal…

Not always possible these days for all sorts of different reasons but that is the way that I want to say goodbye to the Grand Old Lady, as a kid full of love and passion for my team.

After all, I have no control of what happens on or off the pitch, so as they always say about FA Cup games, you never know what can happen on the day. COYB

Denis Richardson
23 Posted 29/08/2024 at 08:46:36
For all of draw-gate, can't really complain with the outcome.

If we're serious about the competition, we should be looking to beat Saints at home.

I saw Saints in the Championship last year and they looked miles off a Premier League outfit — I predict them to finish bottom this season, along with Ipswich.

Dave Abrahams
24 Posted 29/08/2024 at 09:29:25
Ted (22),

Yes, I too would love to be the young naive boy I was when I started watching the Blues. I loved Everton and was in love with everything to do with football.

Very different now, nothing really to like about a corrupt business where everything is about winning no matter how it is achieved.

Everton are in a bad state but they are honestly about the only reason I continue to go and watch the game.

Ray Roche
25 Posted 29/08/2024 at 09:33:44
You're right Dave, and the seeding of the clubs in Europe allowing them to avoid each other is just the latest step in keeping the Sky favourites in trophyland.

Corrupt as anything.

Allen Rodgers
26 Posted 29/08/2024 at 09:42:50
Tuesday 17 September, according to the club website
Ernie Baywood
27 Posted 29/08/2024 at 09:49:08
Remember when we used to wonder whether a team could sustain domestic form in multiple competitions after qualifying for Europe?

Wonder no more. We can just rig it.

Just another mini-evolution. All heading in the same direction.

Steve Cotton
28 Posted 29/08/2024 at 10:01:55
Why not just make the final Liverpool v Man City and have done with it…

Save the rest of us living in hope.

Rob Halligan
29 Posted 29/08/2024 at 10:29:17
Allan # 26…

I can't see that on the official website, and besides, I don't think what weeks the games will be played will be decided until after the European draws, which I think are being made today.

Brian Wilkinson
30 Posted 29/08/2024 at 10:47:07
After already getting a bye to the Third Round, and the big teams avoiding each other, if they wanted to make it fairer, why not give those 6 teams away draws instead of 4 getting a home draw as well?

Could not fit Chelsea with the 6 but made damn sure they got a home draw against the mighty Barrow, also the 2 drawn away happen to be Villa and Spurs, what were the chances of that.

What amazes me — not only do the 4 get a home draw, but those in the Champions League who do not finish bottom get two cracks, they either progress to next round of the Champions League or enter another comp, the Europa League.

The sooner those 6 go to the European Super League, the better, let the Premier League reform without the six and get our two major cup competitions back; otherwise, football is finished, ruined by the greed of the few, and those sat at the table within the Premier League.

Les Callan
31 Posted 29/08/2024 at 10:50:31
Seeding will come next in the FA Cup.
Allen Rodgers
32 Posted 29/08/2024 at 11:17:10
Rob @29 it's on the fixture list but does seem a little premature.
Rob Halligan
33 Posted 29/08/2024 at 11:26:46
Brian # 30…

The most farcical thing about that home or away draw, was that it took place using different coloured balls, Red for Home and White for Away.

Ten balls, five of each colour were placed in a goldfish bowl, meaning Michael Dawson and Les Ferdinand could see what colour they were picking out. The first four just happened to be red! The draw was rigged!

Rob Halligan
34 Posted 29/08/2024 at 11:29:19
Allan, yeah just seen that now.

But as you say, a bit premature because the RS could possibly have a home European game that same date, although highly unlikely as they always get an away leg first.

Allen Rodgers
35 Posted 29/08/2024 at 11:30:04
Rob,

If the aim was to give the RS their traditional home tie it worked!

Rob Halligan
36 Posted 29/08/2024 at 11:34:13
Is this new format for the Champions League going to interfere with future Carabao Cup rounds?

There is an increase of 64 games overall in the Champions League, so they are going to have to fit them in somewhere?

Sean O’Hanlon
37 Posted 29/08/2024 at 11:53:30
I cannot understand why people are happy with a home tie. <>

We're just as shite at home, as we are away.

Jon Harding
38 Posted 29/08/2024 at 12:25:24
Hi Sean @37,

Fans who go home and away are probably pleased at not having to contemplate a mid-week Southampton round trip involving getting home in the middle of the night.

A home draw also means fans like myself have a chance of a ticket, certainly compared to league games and any away match. I was there on Tuesday and hope to attend this next round, even though I live closer to Southampton than Liverpool these days.

And we do win more at home than away. Last season we took 28 points in the league at home with a +4GD as opposed to 20 points away and —15.

Although I was at Goodison for the defeat in the FA Cup to Luton in January so you may just be right!

Allen Rodgers
39 Posted 29/08/2024 at 12:35:17
Jon @38,

The Upper Visitors section will likely be available to home fans. Southampton won't take the full allocation for a midweek game. Good views from up there, I believe.

Ted Roberts
40 Posted 29/08/2024 at 15:16:50
Aye Dave,some bright spark said “ we live life going forward,but learn it looking back”. Thank God for the looking back I say.
Jon Harding
41 Posted 29/08/2024 at 16:47:48
Thanks Allen @39. I was thinking Saints will probably not bring as many as Doncaster did.

I managed to get 3 seats together on Tuesday in the Lower Gwladys for me and my 2 lads. Thank goodness we were stood all game cos they're tall boys and basically didn't fit in the seats! Tough on the people in the row behind us though.

Liam Mogan
42 Posted 29/08/2024 at 20:40:35
Further to the outright corruption of the League Cup draw we now have the lunacy of today's Champions League draw and new format.

Football as we knew it is finished. What's the bloody point?

Rob Halligan
43 Posted 29/08/2024 at 20:46:24
Let's hope we can win this bloody cup, and carry it into the soon to be best stadium in the country…….

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ObHQg5WgQ28

Rob Halligan
44 Posted 29/08/2024 at 20:48:57
Liam # 42…

I haven't got a clue how that new format works? Villa for example, play Celtic, Celtic play Borussia Dortmund yet Villa don't play Dortmund. So how on earth is it a league?

Brent Stephens
45 Posted 29/08/2024 at 20:55:43
Rob #43,

It'll never get built.

Danny O’Neill
46 Posted 29/08/2024 at 20:59:24
Rob, we have to win this cup at some point so this season is as good a chance as any.

I've no idea about how the new format works and haven't paid much attention, to be honest.

Rob Halligan
47 Posted 29/08/2024 at 21:01:54
Brent, Mr Tasker was right all along! 😁😁😁
Liam Mogan
48 Posted 29/08/2024 at 21:08:18
Nobody understands these formats. Just ways of protecting elites and introducing a European League by proxy.

Be better if they all just piss off to their super dooper League.

Danny O’Neill
49 Posted 29/08/2024 at 21:10:47
Rob, great link. I hope those who said it would never happen will enjoy the most iconic stadium in the country.

We will.

Paul Birmingham
50 Posted 29/08/2024 at 21:30:57
Rob, great call out.

The farce of the Premier League and FA. It's a farce, they are destroying the game by each passing year.

This style of draw does take the game into disrepute, how would such a blatant rigged process be accepted anywhere else in sport?

Tom Bowers
51 Posted 30/08/2024 at 12:45:13
I have always said this is a Micky Mouse competition, now even more so and has become farsical much like some of the rules of the game and VAR.

Some of the people running soccer must have very little to do so they change things when they get bored even if it doesn't improve anything.


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