Season › 2024-25 › News Emotional Beto rescues a point for fortunate Everton Lyndon Lloyd 26/10/2024 58comments | Jump to last Everton 1 - 1 Fulham Beto stepped off the bench and headed home a dramatic late equaliser as Everton salvaged what had looked to be an unlikely draw against vibrant Fulham. The Blues had laboured though 90-plus minutes of dire and woefully ineffective football and were heading towards a fourth successive home defeat to the Cottagers on the back of Alex Iwobi’s goal but managed to grab a point deep into stoppage time. Sean Dyche had thrown Michael Keane up front to partner Beto as Everton chased the game and the late push was rewarded when the Portuguese found himself in the right place to convert Ashley Young’s centre. The pre-match discussion had revolved around the manager’s decision to leave Jarrad Branthwaite on the bench, preferring to stick with the central-defensive partnership of James Tarkowski and Michael Keane in what was an unchanged starting XI from the side that had started at Ipswich last year. Article continues below video content But Everton looked inferior in almost all departments, were out-manoeuvred by former boss Marco Silva’s men for long stretches of this match and though they had the ball in the net for a goal that was chalked off for offside, they were fortunate to go into the break level at 0-0. Tarkowski allowed Raul Jimenez to control Kenny Tete’s early cross and the Mexican striker’s snapshot was saved by Jordan Pickford and the keeper was called into action in the 25th minute when Vitalii Mykolenko’s awful giveaway let Adama Traore in but Pickford beat his strong shot away and Emile Smith Rowe volleyed Jimenez’s header over the crossbar. The hosts belatedly started to show some attacking life after the half-hour mark and they put together their best move of the contest thus far. Iliman Ndiaye, Dwight McNeil and Abdoulaye Doucouré and were all involved before Idrissa Gueye smacked the underside of the crossbar with a wonderful shot and Dominic Calvert-Lewin rapped home the rebound, only to be flagged offside. The two sides then traded blows through the remainder of the first period. Tete shrugged off three Everton players on a long run that ended with a poor shot that he lashed over while Calvert-Lewin’s attempted header back across goal at the other end bounced off Sander Berge. Jimenez easily turned Mykolenko but saw his effort blocked before Iwobi half-volleyed Traore’s cross over when well-placed while, in between, Everton’s Ukrainian full-back put in a brilliant cross that McNeil could only power into Bernd Leno’s arms. With Fulham confident on the ball and incisive with their passing through midfield, Everton often paled in comparison, their route-one tactics becoming an increasing source of frustration for the Goodison crowd. The Toffees’ fans had to wait until the 82nd minute for their team’s first genuine chance of the second half when substitute Jesper Lindstrom’s deflected shot was saved low by Leno. Prior to that, Everton had survived a scare when Andreas Pereira screwed a shot across goal but then fallen behind with an hour gone thanks to abysmal defending by three of their most experienced players. Young missed his tackle on Smith Rowe who took advantage of space ahead of him to drive forward and feed Iwobi and with both Keane and Tarkowski backing off, the former Blues player had time to pick his spot with a strike inside Pickford’s right-hand post. The Everton keeper had to parry a low cross by Antonee Robinson and was fortunate that Smith Rowe didn’t gamble on Iwobi’s volleyed pass across the face of goal shortly afterwards before Jimenez blasted narrowly over with 12 minutes left. That was Dyche’s cue to make his second change of the afternoon by removing Doucouré and Calvert-Lewin in favour of Orel Mangala and Beto and within 10 minutes, the former Udinese striker had forced a corner with a blocked shot and at least made Leno make a save with a header that was searching out the bottom corner ether side of McNeil's forced withdrawal due to a knee injury. Beto’s moment to genuinely shine came four minutes into time added on, though. Everton had piled men forward trying to force home a late leveller, Ndiaye’s deep cross fell to Young in space off the back post and with a cushioned volleyed cross he found Beto unmarked to head past Leno before haring off to wildly celebrate. Clenching his fists, yelling to the heavens and then beating the turf, the emotion poured out of the Portuguese and he left the field at the end with his shirt over his head to mask tears of relief and joy at having seized his opportunity. For Dyche, the late drama was a reflection of the never-say-die mentality he has instilled in his side but it couldn’t mask the glaring deficiencies in Everton’s performance, which was painfully one-dimensional and, the silky skills of Ndiaye aside, lacking in guile and invention. The manager will point, however, to another game where his men avoided defeat and which extended the Toffees’ unbeaten run to five matches. Last-gasp Beto goal gets Everton out of jail Matchday updates and reaction Reader Comments (58) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Mike Hayes 1 Posted 26/10/2024 at 21:17:31 Made up for the lad. I'd give Calvert-Lewin his bench spot – he didn't look happy so maybe a couple of matches on the bench might help. I'm not saying Beto is the answer… but neither is Calvert-Lewin. Mal van Schaick 2 Posted 26/10/2024 at 21:22:16 60%/40% possession in favour of Fulham who were undoubtedly the better team. We got away with a result today.Keep this squad together until summer, it will keep us up, and give Beto more starts.Dyche also needs to learn from this. We are the home team and should play more on the front foot and keep possession to pressurise the away team. Colin Metcalfe 3 Posted 26/10/2024 at 21:22:32 Another Dyche master class! Honestly, for me, I can't wait to get rid of the guy! Mike Connolly 4 Posted 26/10/2024 at 21:32:20 I'm sick of Dyche. I was in the Main Stand today and all I could see were three bald heads chatting shite. I presume they were chatting shite because nothing changed. New ground… hopefully a new manager! Denis Richardson 5 Posted 26/10/2024 at 21:38:09 Couldnt watch the match but thankfully it sounds like I didnt miss anything.Objectively its a point against a side above us and a point further from the drop zone. Unbeaten in 5 now. Ill take that.Onwards to the next game. As long as we get points from games Im not arsed about the performance. Worry about that when were mid table!Happy for Beto. Mike Gaynes 6 Posted 26/10/2024 at 21:54:28 Watching Beto break down in tears at the final whistle, and then fight to keep from doing so again on the postmatch NBC interview, was truly one of the great moments of the season. So pleased for him.But let's not forget the guy who made it happen. Young's cushioned volley onto Beto's head was a thing of beauty. Neil Cremin 7 Posted 26/10/2024 at 22:07:06 Only comment from me is the two heroes from today are the fall guys of ToffeeWeb posters. And that doesn't include another TW whipping boy in Alex Iwobi. Be careful of what you wish for. Brent Stephens 8 Posted 26/10/2024 at 22:11:08 Mr Gaynes, sir, I was at the match so have only just caught up on reading Live Forum. I think you called those subs and positional changes quite early on in the second half?! And too modest to draw attention to it after the game. Well done. Brent Stephens 9 Posted 26/10/2024 at 22:20:37 Lyndon "...preferring to stick with the central-defensive partnership of James Tarkowski and Michael Keane in what was an unchanged starting XI from the side that had started at Ipswich last year".I know the game dragged on a bit, Lyndon, but surely it didn't seem that long?! Derek Knox 10 Posted 26/10/2024 at 23:03:59 I've never been a fan of Beto, but all credit due – he displayed the tenacity to get that late equalising goal. Many saying Calvert-Lewin may or may not have done the same had he been left on. His heart doesn't seem to be in the game and going through the motions, even if that means not scoring seems to be his mantra. Having said that, who is challenging his position? Hopefully, Broja will be fit soon and take up that chalice! (There's that word again!!) Ernie Baywood 11 Posted 26/10/2024 at 23:47:14 Derek, it's pretty hard to compare what Calvert-Lewin might have done and what Beto did do.What I do know is that we had 7 players in the box when Ndiaye crossed the ball. That creates options and opportunities.I don't think Calvert-Lewin had 2 players within 30 metres of him all game. Eugene Ruane 12 Posted 26/10/2024 at 23:49:15 Imo, we were truly, truly horrible to watch today. And how we got a point out of that, I do not know (had I been a Fulham supporter, I'd have spewed when Beto equalised).MotD simply gave no idea of how much better they were and how bad we were.Fulham = touch, pace, brains, pressing, strength, they played like it was a training match at times. Their football looked... intelligent.Us = constantly giving the ball away, standing off, no press, humping the ball forward (to their grateful centre-backs), no (obvious) plan, we were clueless. Our football looked... shite.As for Calvert-Lewin, he has two problems: 1) he gets no support (nb: fucking none!); and 2) he simply isn't a natural striker. Beto may not be the answer, but if I was an opposing centre-half, I'd rather face Calvert-Lewin. Dominic might be a nice feller and all that but, when you compare him to natural strikers (Yakubu, Lukaku etc), he's playing a different game.As for Dyche, some of the things I heard him (and his tactics) called today would make Chubby Brown blush.Anyway, I'm heading off to New Year for a couple of weeks tomorrow so will be watching the next two games at The Turnmill Bar (at 10 in the morning, so at least I'm guaranteed a decent breakfast).Up The (siiiiiiighhh) Toffees. Larry O'Hara 13 Posted 27/10/2024 at 00:15:03 Throughout most of the game, we stood off Fulham, so made them look good. If you ally that to sitting in our own half, mostly a recipe for suicide: and we could have let in 3 or 4.Calvert-Lewin was isolated but looked mostly disinterested. So why did we wait so long to bring Beto on and go two up top? Sadly, I do not think Dyche will learn from this. Mike Gaynes 15 Posted 27/10/2024 at 01:09:53 Thanks for noticing, Brent!I'm kind of on a roll. I called Ndiaye and Keane as goalscorers last week. I predicted an election a while back as well, but I'm not posting that here.Eugene #12, yours is the second mention of the Turnmill today... my pal Paul Columb popped up on the Forum just long enough to recommend it to a questioner looking for a Toffee pub in NYC. And you're right about Beto... nothing elegant but he puts a lot of opponents on the ground. Rob Tedford 16 Posted 27/10/2024 at 02:14:38 We are so careless with our passing, it beggars belief! We spend 2/3s of the game trying to win it back to just simply give it away again. On the odd occasions we do try and pass it forward, it's always too quick and too direct that we have no players able to support, Why can't Pickford just find a defender who is free then the defenders find one of the 5 midfielders in front of them and then the midfielder being brave enough to turn with the ball (god forbid) and move the ball forward. Football is a lot easier and less tiring when you keep it. Ernie Baywood 17 Posted 27/10/2024 at 03:04:22 I don't know if anyone here ever visits Who Scored to see match stats... here is yesterday's report: Everton 1:1 FulhamLook at the section entitled "Styles"Fulham:–Played with width–Favoured long shots–Attacked down the rightEverton:(Team showed no specific style of play) Jerome Shields 18 Posted 27/10/2024 at 04:41:39 Ernie #17That is it: 'No specific style of play'. Everton are set up to spoil the play of the opposition. It is only when the opposition go out of the game, as most teams do over the time of a game, that they get forward. Then, it's improvise from there.Actually Dycheball in a misnomer, since it implies defend deep and attack on the break. Dycheball is no specific style other than take chances to avoid defeat, aim for a draw, and hopefully nick a goal.Interesting Fulham are predominately wing play. I always thought that was a Silva weakness – he rarely attacks through the centre. Everton looked thin at times defending the centre though when Fulham attacked on the wing. Robert Tressell 19 Posted 27/10/2024 at 07:50:13 Ernie # 11, I think that captures the frustration. Dyche is a percentages manager – playing low-risk football, especially defensively. But he often puts us at a % disadvantage in attack by just not committing enough people forward – especially at home. Possibly a fear of getting caught on the break without Branthwaite or a more athletic right-back? Bill Fairfield 20 Posted 27/10/2024 at 07:54:17 Calvert-Lewin may not be the answer, but it must be hard having to be the carthorse in that set up. Atuly abysmal performance. Change on and off the field can't come quickly enough. More of that garbage to come though, I feel. Neil Lawson 21 Posted 27/10/2024 at 08:05:59 Saw some stats on Jack Harrison. Described as the "left-footed dud". Essentially zero contribution and impact. Fewer touches than Pickford. Season's stats little better. So there is one very obvious required change for next week. Martin Mason 22 Posted 27/10/2024 at 08:25:07 Considering everything, it was a very good point against a very good Fulham side. We're in a pretty bad way with a weak squad, no playing style or strategy to speak of, and despite what I personally see as a very weak and negative head coach, it was a point and we survive. Next week is another game and another chance to sort ourselves out and put space between us and relegation. Kevin Edward 23 Posted 27/10/2024 at 08:54:50 Poor display against a good Fulham side. But it's a results game and so take the unlikely point and move on.But we do need to move on; whether it's the manager or the players, this type of ‘hope to grab a goal without conceding and then hang on' football will only get us so far.We know Dyche is limited by his preferred style, but he got away with it yesterday thanks to Beto. We badly need to pick up another couple of wins before those December and January fixtures to keep the pressure off.So many late goals this season with defences caving in under pressure at 90+ minutes. Really is quite extraordinary. At least this time we got the benefit. Martin Mason 24 Posted 27/10/2024 at 08:57:22 What last week and this week showed to me is that the relative strength of our squad and coaching set up are better than a relegation side like Ipswich but not capable of consistently performing well against any side in the top ten. Without structural improvement this will probably result in a painful season and a position around where we are now with few decent performances against decent teams (I don't believe that we have that in us). An alternative view is that we are 15th and moving away from the relegation area? At the moment I'd say that yesterday we ran into our performance ceiling but there is scope for some improvement. We have to get used to many more performances like yesterday though. Greg Kelly 25 Posted 27/10/2024 at 09:10:39 It is useful to reflect and learn: if we had persevered with Silva, we could be enjoying a team committed to trying to play ‘the Everton way'. Rewind your clocks to 1970, and dream… Paul Birmingham 26 Posted 27/10/2024 at 09:14:11 One of them days but Everton stuck at it and Beto turned the match with his can do and gusty fighting approach, he played like he was on a mission!So 5 games unbeaten and let's focus on extending this run at Soton!UTFTs! Eddie Dunn 27 Posted 27/10/2024 at 09:33:49 Domenic Calvert-Lewin looked dejected. Up against two strapping centrbacks, he won very little.He gets caught offside far too often and then Beto gets the winner with Keane up with him.Domenic must look at Match of the Day and wonder how much better he would have played with someone else up with him.The tactics are pittiful and we play in little patches, flickers of life on a corpse.Dyche is simply settling for survival. Nothing more is required of him.He will never change ? Steve Brown 28 Posted 27/10/2024 at 09:36:03 Martin, I think this squad has better performances in them against Top 10 teams.Branthwaite, Mangala, Lindstrom, Broja and a recovered Tim Iro will bring better technical quality; we have been derailed by injuries but having them fit and premier league ready will make a difference.Branthwaite alone will allow us to play a higher defensive line. Hopefully that will improve the half-assed press we operated yesterday. Mike Doyle 29 Posted 27/10/2024 at 09:49:29 Agree with Ernie B. Fulham look a good side and had they won (as they deserved to) no complaints from me. However their defence can be vulnerable when put under pressure.the late intro of Beto + Michael Keane up front gave their defence a problem they had not had to that point. Also we got players forward and pressed…. Strange what can happen when you actually attack. Martin Mason 30 Posted 27/10/2024 at 10:00:10 I really hope so Steve. I'm trying to be positive about yesterday and not to fall into the negativity trap. Peter Hodgson 31 Posted 27/10/2024 at 10:20:20 Are you listening Sean? You had better be for your own sake.The performance against Fulham was disjointed and way off the mark. Changes must be made for next week. The most glaring problem yesterday was DCL. He has been picked ahead of anyone else all season for whatever reason (presumably nothing to do with his current form). Beto was bought for a considerable fee (that has to be paid at some stage). Why is he never selected when Dom isn't scoring the goals he is paid to score. Give him a chance. Not just one game either.DCL wasn't alone though. Another of your favourite picks is Harrison. Why? Okay he works hard and gets back and defends as necessary. Probably answered my own question there. Hang on a mo though. He is an attacker running the wing to provide DCL & Co with crosses they can score off. No wonder DCL is starved of crosses. Finally another suggestion if I may. It would do the team good, and probably the player too, if Jordan had a break for a couple of weeks or so as he looks unsettled and jumpy.The players I have mentioned were not the only one to have an off day. There was a general malaise evident. A lack of preparation by the coaches perhaps? Whatever, if you want to be here past the end of the season more is required of the team, and they must show it, so we don't end up fighting the drop again. Christine Foster 32 Posted 27/10/2024 at 11:12:14 Dominic Calvert Lewin for 80 mins of this match played on his own with no support, no crosses, nothing. Yet out of that crap that Dyche calls tactics, 70 yard punts from Pickford, that's it, win it, hold it up, make a chance or score. Oh and for every free kick, corner, throw in, make sure you're in our box defending. Eventually fed up, stuffed, disheartened he is off, and tactics are changed, two up front and a winger on.. DCL must weep. I know what he wants for Christmas, a new manager. So do I. DCL is best in the box as a one touch finisher, don't use him that way because?? Because the emphasis has been (rightly) on not losing, but Dyche will be gone soon, so will DCL, you can see why he isn't signing a contract. He has no future under Dyche. Ernie Baywood 33 Posted 27/10/2024 at 11:19:39 Robert #19 - I think that's exactly it. We play defence and attack - with not much in the latter. We're not going to take the chance on committing because that's a risk.I can completely understand both Dyche and Young himself being reluctant to commit forward - he simply won't get back in time. But who picks him? And that's with no criticism intended of Young who is a model professional. There have been options over the duration even if they've been more limited of late.I've been slated for using the word 'coward' when it comes to Dyche. I absolutely stand by it. He works with a system that can be defended. I haven't watched his post match comments (and won't) but I'll guess he refers to a bit of bad luck and a couple of errors. It's always been the same with him. I'd love him to be brave every now and then. Make a decision that might come back to bite him but also might change a game. Maybe get the players to commit forward for a spell. That's what leaders do. Not this paint by numbers crap. He'll never change my mind. He is what he's always been. I've watched Everton regress under his stewardship every week since he was appointed until we are now peak Dyche. We don't take any chances. We don't take any risks. Unless Dwight gets injured and we've used all the subs he's prepared to commit to.Such a weak individual. One of the highest paid managers in world football Raymond Fox 34 Posted 27/10/2024 at 11:28:34 Your performance depends who you are playing against. As for CL having 2 players marking him that should leave the gate open for one of our other players from midfield.We have sold all the players that the top clubs are interested in apart from Branthwaite, Pickford and maybe CL but he's debatable.Thats a goalie and a defender and CL, and yet some think we should play a passing game like City.Martinez tried doing that and look how that ended.Dyche will keep us in the division no problem and with this squad that will be good enough for me, we are not a bad side but we are lacking that bit of skill that raises us up a level.We can hopefully look forward to improve the overall class of the squad next season. Christopher Timmins 35 Posted 27/10/2024 at 11:37:19 Folks, last night was a wake-up call in relation to the talent levels within the squad. Apart from a fit Garner, we have nobody in the central midfield area who can make things happen.Fulham are a more fluid team than us and have more talented players.Let's take the point and move on. Dave Ganley 36 Posted 27/10/2024 at 12:17:15 Horrible ale house football. I truly wonder what happens at Finch Farm because it's obvious no time is being spent on players trying to better themselves. To get to this level, all players must have a reasonable talent that propels them above all the wannabes. Dyche doesn't actually make players better, such is his determination to play anti-football. To play progressive football, you don't have to go gung-ho like many posters seem to think. There is a balance. You can attack when it's on and still not leave yourself wide open like Martinez used to do. Watching yesterday, we were so deep that Fulham's full-backs were consistently playing from the half-way line and Leno in goal was playing from the edge of his 18-yard area. No pressure, just letting Fulham do what they want. Fulham are an okay side. Not great like some would have you believe, but we made them look very good. The only plan we had was hoof it up the pitch. I do wonder what would be the result if we actually coached the players to play joined up football and to support each other instead of just hoofing it whenever we have possession.Are these players any worse than the ones we had when Moyes first took over back in 2003? Probably not. Moyes made players better though and it makes me laugh when posters slag off his efforts over the years then laud Dyche in the next sentence and suggest we are lucky to have Dyche. No, I don't want Moyes back either but he played to his players' strengths and made a team as opposed to hoofing the ball upfield and run after it. Let's not forget, Moyes had no money either but found numerous gems. We got very lucky yesterday and the sooner we get enough points to safety and get shut of Dyche, the better. We're not lucky to have Dyche at all and the fact that some posters think he's doing a good job just shows how poor expectations have fallen. Say it enough times and people believe it. As for the crowd yesterday, the atmosphere was okay at kick-off time, but playing the style of football we do, it's no surprise it falls as flat as the football. There is absolutely nothing to get behind. All-in-all, a proper shit show. Ian Bennett 37 Posted 27/10/2024 at 12:28:08 Too many players that don't offer enough threat to offer much more in my opinion. A lack of pace, a lack of passing quality, and a lack of movement once we are on the ball.It's a lower Premier League team when you've got full-backs offering nothing, little passing quality from Doucoure, a bang-average winger in Harrison, and a striker that's fed on scraps- but is an unreliable finisher when he is put through.This season Calvert-Lewin's hit the target 9 times in 9 matches. Missed 7 big chances and been caught offside the same amount as Haaland's Premier League career.But look at the ball quality going into him... Like Onana, he will play better when surrounded by better players. It's going to be hard sell bringing good players in. Andy Meighan 38 Posted 27/10/2024 at 14:27:15 Christine 32. Great Post.And absolutely correct. My heart goes out to Calvert-Lewin, the service into him is atrocious. Mike Gaynes 39 Posted 27/10/2024 at 15:39:45 Greg #25, perhaps, but we'd have been doing it in the Championship. Rewind your clock instead to the end of Silva's tenure, and you'll remember a team that was spiralling down to oblivion. And I don't believe we would have come back up. We'd still be there.Besides, remember who replaced Silva. Carlo is one of the best club managers in the world, and even he couldn't establish a consistent style for this under-talented roster. Eugene Stalker 40 Posted 27/10/2024 at 15:50:27 Not sure this has been mentioned elsewhere since I've not read all the comments but when Jack Harrison hit high and wide into Gwladys Street early in second half, Pickford went running up to the halfway line gesticulating wildy at the bench appearing to tell them to get Harrison off asap. It might not have been that but certainly looked like that to me and people by me. Denis Richardson 41 Posted 27/10/2024 at 16:39:07 Reading some of these posts makes me laugh. It's as if we're doomed and may as well just leap from down to the conference where we belong. Imo, we do actually have a decent first XI when fit – right-back aside.Wasn't too long ago we went 2-0 up against a couple of sides back to back, playing decent football, only to lose both games. We're not going to perform, week-in & week-out, and points are the main thing we need right now. If you look at the table, we're nearer 8th than 18th, despite being 16th. With some of the injured back, we'll get better. Take the point and move on to the next game.Those wanting Dyche out will no doubt get their wish soon enough. The average tenure for a Premier League manager is only about 2 years. Dyche will likely be gone in the summer when the new owners can bring in whoever they want for free. Just a few months for you guys to wait. Until then, be happy with the 5-point gap to the drop zone and that the likes of Southampton and Ipswich look like guaranteed relegation candidates (assuming they don't change manager anytime soon). Dave Abrahams 42 Posted 27/10/2024 at 17:36:49 Dennis (41), I think most fans are commenting on yesterday's performance and I thought it was a really inept display all round.When the fan by me done one with 20 minutes to go, I knew how he felt. I always stay to the end but the feeling of frustration and despair was all around the ground until Beto gave us a feeling of relief.But in my case, it didn't obliterate that pathetic performance nearly all over the field. John Wilson 43 Posted 27/10/2024 at 17:40:26 Like or loathe Calvert-Lewin, he is our best Number 9, who has scored 50 goals. I think his new slimmer build makes it harder to bully bigger centre-backs. Calvert-Lewin holds up the ball though at the moment cannot find the back of the net except chalked off for offside. Calvert-Lewin, however, seems to be offside often. Someone needs to say, "See that man on the right wearing black and holding the flag? Stay behind him, hold your run". Beto on the other hand is a better finisher it seems but can't hold the ball up. It needs 4-4-2 as Beto and Calvert-Lewin are not being serviced with any balls without being suffocated. Interesting we get goals without needing set pieces when we have two upfront – Keane last game and Beto this one. Colin Crooks 44 Posted 27/10/2024 at 17:53:14 Beto's goal was an easy chance converted, but he was Johnny on the spot. Impossible for any blue not to thrilled for him. I almost enjoyed his interview as much as the goal! Neil Lawson 45 Posted 27/10/2024 at 18:56:12 Ernie (32). You and I appear to see the same picture. I commented yesterday about the conundrum for Dyche: Keane or Branthwaite. From my perspective, there is no argument but I believed that Dyche didn't have the balls nor the nouse to leave out Keane and that he would start. He spoke later about how important it is to have competition for places to encourage performance. In other words, leave out your best player simply because a lesser player has been doing well until he doesn't. He is a coward. The nonsense of subbing Calvert-Lewin and soon after sending Keane up as a makeshift striker is laughable. We were losing when Beto came on but surely he and Calvert-Lewin should have been employed together? Until they equalised, I was wondering if Virginia may come on for Pickford to play upfront as well. It's Sunday league alehouse stuff and it's miserable to watch and it's Dyche's choice. Denis Richardson 46 Posted 27/10/2024 at 21:32:27 Steve 42, get your point its just that some of the comments about Dyche and the team are so negative. Its not like the team is trying to play badly on purpose.However, I think we can all agree therell be changes once the ownership transfer is completed and this is likely just a few weeks away. Dyche is Dyche and isnt going to change overnight, especially not with the squad we have available, so would suggest people just accept it until we see what the new owners plans are. If they back Dyche then hopefully we can buy better players. If they bring in someone like Mourinho (who apparently has unfinished business in the Premiership) then thatll be a new chapter to look forward to. Ultimately it was just one game. Whilst frustrating a performance at least we got a point. Southampton away will be an interesting one. Fail to win and I imagine the pitch forks will really be out! Sean Kearns 47 Posted 27/10/2024 at 23:16:39 That RS twat Rafa really fucked us hard and started the total collapse by falling out with Digne and fucking him off!!… before that we all thought 11th was a bad finish 😂 Digne even said he loved it with us and didnt want to leave but Rafa forced him out. The lad was genuinely class… still bothers me!!… I also think Patterson is gear and worthy of a run in the team. Our Fullback positions are a piss take and not premier league standard most weeks. Needs sorting out ASAP it winds me up!!! Colin Callaghan 48 Posted 28/10/2024 at 09:50:53 Calvert-Lewin may be great at winning long balls but he is average at best at hold-up play. I'm not worried about him turning me at all if I'm a centre-back.Fulham have very athletic fullbacks. Jack Harrison may not have done much but neither did Jedi Robinson, they nullified each other. Lindstrom worked back hard when he came on and will get another chance. As tricky and skillful as Ndiaye is, he still rarely got around Tete. When he did, he actually beat him 2 or 3 times and that's not Jack's game.Fulham were always gonna struggle this season trying to replace Palinha but they're a good side with a good manager. Thanks, Big Sean, for another good point. Anthony Day 49 Posted 28/10/2024 at 10:13:19 I was at the game on Saturday and agree with so many comments on here about our lack of tactics. We have no pattern of play anywhere beyond the Pickford hoof. We have no partnerships on the pitch. No movement or direction. Being "compact" is surrendering the game to the opposition every time. We don't even start fast – so slow and ponderous against a team who lost their last two and who were without their best defender.What sums it up for me is that we only changed our play due to the mishap of McNeil coming off; otherwise, it was like-for-like subs again. How does changing Calvert-Lewin for Beto impact the game when Calvert-Lewin had no service? It was only the chaos caused by Keane and Beto together which disrupted Fulham (aided by Silva causing uncertainty with his late sub and a change to a back 5).After 70 games of Sean Dyche, I still cannot tell you what we are trying to do beyond "try not to lose". Sean O'Hanlon 50 Posted 28/10/2024 at 10:46:52 That was awful to watch – unbearable at times.Some pundits say Everton have turned a corner!That's not a corner, it's 180 degrees U-turn. Joe McMahon 51 Posted 28/10/2024 at 10:57:21 Denis @46, Sean Dyche isn't going to change his outlook or management style… full stop. He's been in management for 14 years. 2 promotions, 2 relegations in that time playing awful one-dimensional Ale House hit-and-run low-scoring unimaginative crap. Ian Burns 52 Posted 28/10/2024 at 11:33:08 On Saturday I invited some friends over for dinner – all Barcelona supporters and ST holders – part of the evening's entertainment was Everton vs Fulham. It was dire and embarrassing and when Everton equalised I was shouting - everybody else was laughing at the sheer cheek in stealing the game from Fulham. “Didn't Everton used to be good?” – one of the guys asked."30 years ago" – was my response. John Gall 53 Posted 28/10/2024 at 11:39:06 Ian - almost 40 years actually... Dennis Stevens 54 Posted 28/10/2024 at 11:50:26 30 years ago, Ian, when Mike Walker was manager?! Jack Convery 55 Posted 28/10/2024 at 12:44:40 Fancy a new manager? 54.7% win rate at his last club. Played 128, W 70, D 23 L 35. He's available now and lives not too far away. John Raftery 56 Posted 28/10/2024 at 12:55:44 Jack (55), Sounds like he's the man for the job! Ian Burns 57 Posted 28/10/2024 at 15:49:04 Bloody hell – 40 years! I'm older than I thought! Terry McLavey 58 Posted 28/10/2024 at 16:36:50 Could be controversial but play Branthwaite at centre-back and Keane up front again, he's big enough to bully and can score. I'm not convinced with Calvert-Lewin at the moment although there seems no connection with him and our midfield which is not entirely his fault and is down to Dyche. Hopefully he is just our caretaker manager until the new stadium.Also kudos to Iwobi for not rubbing our noses in it as some have done previously. Denis Richardson 59 Posted 28/10/2024 at 22:42:20 Joe 51, that's my point, sorry if not clear. Dyche isn't going to change but you'd think something will once the new owners are in. May as well accept things as they are for the next few weeks and hope we continue to get points on the board. People need to let off steam after a poor performance, I get that. But as you say, Dyche isn't going to change so why be surprised? He's paid to keep us up first and foremost, so he's ticking the boxes he needs to for now. Not pretty but it is what it is. He was brought in to avoid the drop. I imagine the new owners' ambitions will be much higher. Hopefully, with Branthwaite back, things will improve. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb