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2 Posted 09/10/2013 at 09:39:55
4 Posted 10/10/2013 at 10:55:58
5 Posted 10/10/2013 at 11:19:11
By the way, I read somewhere recently (probably in Back Pass) that our very first Football league fixture (1888) kicked off an hour late - I think coz the opposition turned up late.
Oh and we had the biggest crowd of the day with 10,000.
6 Posted 12/10/2013 at 11:49:51
Cracking read and for some reason I was minded of "The Monacled Mutineer!"..........Someone should make a movie of Bootle F.C (1879)
What a character Job Wilding was.
I read up a bit on Bootle FC and was surprised to see they applied to be founders of the Football League in 1888 and whereas Everton were accepted, Bootle were turned down!
A year later they were founder members of the Football Alliance but were dissolved in 1893 becoming the first team ever to resign from the Football League! Which makes me wonder that, if history had dealt us a different hand, there would be no RS and our rivals would be Bootle!!
7 Posted 12/10/2013 at 18:51:30
I have, until recently, been doing research to help this club write their long over due history which was published some weeks ago. The author, Jo Russell, informed me that their combined wealth, in today's money, was about £700 million, so had they stayed and helped to develop Bootle FC a certain other team, who were formed after the demise of Bootle, might never have come into being.
8 Posted 19/10/2013 at 05:50:05
The T.Veitch (captain), in the middle of the back row with fantastic mustache is my Great Great Great Uncle (my father's, father's, father's, father's brother). He also played a few games for Everton which through the lineage we have always supported. My father grew up in Liverpool but moved away after school and has lived in Australia since 1972.
Back in '04 when I went to watch us take on Bolton at Goodison, I stopped by the main library and managed to dig out an old match report which mentioned both Tom Veitch and William Veitch back 1886 playing for Bootle, and a match report mentioning Tom playing for Everton.
Appreciate the effort in posting this up here.
9 Posted 19/10/2013 at 17:13:28
10 Posted 20/10/2013 at 10:10:36
I grew up in Liverpool in the 1960s and early 70s before emigrating to Australia, and my dad took me to many games in the Alex Young, Brian Labone, Alan Ball, Colin Harvey, Howard Kendall, Jimmy Gabriel, Derek Temple and Alex Parker era — what a time that was. My dad told me a long time ago (before he died) that our ancestors had played for Everton and that was why we supported them. However, it is only since I started trying to document my family history that the details are starting to fall into place.
Thomas Veitch (my great grandfather's brother), who played for both Everton and Bootle, came down from Dumbarton, Scotland around 1885 with his younger brother William (my great grandfather). The two boys were orphaned when only 5 or 6 years old and were brought up in Dumbarton by an uncle and aunt who never married.
I have a copy of a match program that has Thomas Veitch (as captain of Bootle) at full back playing against Everton. The interesting thing is my great grandfather (William Veitch) was the other full back for Bootle. Without wanting to load you up, do you have access to anything that might shed any light on William's football career — or where I might go looking for it. I suspect that the records for Bootle FC will be hard to trace.
Thanks again for your great efforts in supporting Everton FC.
11 Posted 20/10/2013 at 13:28:36
Thank you!
12 Posted 20/10/2013 at 19:49:51
13 Posted 11/05/2014 at 05:18:25
14 Posted 01/07/2014 at 04:37:15
I have been researching my family history and have found out that the footballing brother were orphaned very early when their parents died young. Their father (Robert Veitch) was a shipwright and died in Calcutta on 27th May 1866. Their mother (Agnes Ewing) died soon after on 21st April 1870. The brothers were brought up their aunt and uncle (Peter and Mary Ewing).
I have our joint Veitch family history going back about five generations further to the late 1600s.
If you are interested I can send you what I have. By the way cousin, I also live in Australia (Brisbane). My email address is veitchmj@gmail.com.
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1 Posted 09/10/2013 at 06:33:24
A really good article.