Extra care being taken over Pienaar's recovery

Starting matches isn't really an option anymore. It's nearly November already. If he can get a level of fitness and not pick up any more injuries, he can be a decent option coming off the bench from Xmas/New Year onwards, maybe. But it's a long shot.

I hope something like that comes off for him, he deserves to go out playing. An excellent, underrated footballer.

Against Stoke in Singapore he was at the end of some real vicious challenges, got no protection at all and was finally knobbled too much and we haven't seen him since. It will happen again.

Martinez needs to be ruthless going forward, nothing dream and hope that they will be fit.

Even if any of these 3 are back injury free I just can not see them being good enough to take Everton upwards from here.

Not many fans have given credit to not only Pienaar but Distin too who always covered for Baines sorties forward. Cover at top level has been a goal for our coaches to develop and all that has been produced are defenders. Surely since Pienaar's injury his replacement should have been a priority as obviously his loss has had a detrimental affect on Baines and the side as a whole. If we still possessed the threat provided when Pienaar and Baines were playing together I am absolutely certain that Lukaku would have scored more goals.

I want to see Baines take over the Barry role and get back to his creative best. We only need one defensive midfielder otherwise it detracts from our goal threat especially in the coming home games against lesser sides than we have met so far.

A brilliant signing, twice, but he should go take it easy in the States.

Time for us to move on, we don't have the budget to carry passengers or be sentimental about high earners.

It has been a long time since he contributed to the team but he does possess some special talent, and it would be a bonus if he got back to match fitness.

We really do have more of our fair share of guys that hardly ever stay fit for more than a few weeks.

It's such a shame he'll never be quite there again. Such a great little underrated player & his link-up play with Baines was virtually telepathic! In the snippets where he did play in the last 2 years, a couple of times really showed what we were missing.

I really hoped he'd come back through this season before the hammy crocked him again. I hope to see him get a run out before Xmas.

It might be that the medical and coaching staff see him capable of playing a full 90 mins; if so, what a fantastic bonus for us. If he can come on as sub for the last half hour or so of a match, that would be a useful addition to our squad.

Whatever happens, I think he has been excellent (and maybe still will be) for us.

Let him play for an hour or so then bring Deulofeu on, or Mirallas to finish the match. It would be preferable to play two wingers, especially at home, but Bobby doesn't do that.

Here is a player who actually moves and wants the ball instead of the fucking statues we have at the moment.

Sick and tired (as must be the fans around me) of screaming "Fucking move you gang of lazy twats!!!"

Bloody hell! that was a lot of swearing for one post.

I agree. Although not a flying winger, the most effective wide player since Trevor Steven.

But the player we are missing most is Leighton. Galloway has been great and has a real future but Leighton has been our most effective attacking player for the last five years. We need him back.

We need seriously to look at replacing Tim Howard; his best days are well and truly behind him. These players will hold us back if we keep them next season... They've got to go... please!

McGeady, Hibbert, Pienaar, Osman and Gibson will surely be off soon. If we are serious about progressing, they should be followed by Howard, Naismith and Mirallas.

Howard is not going to get any better, Naismith is a real trier, but not quite good enough, and Kevin will never be consistent.

I look at the lads playing for West Ham, Palace and Leicester, running at pace, actually shooting at goal, moving off the ball! We need to wake-up and switch on, this league is all about pace and movement, and we look like a bunch of OAPs playing over-50s' walking football.

Barkley is a "unique talent" with "unique bravery on the ball" and "from a physical point of view, he's someone quite unique".

Deulofeu is another "unique talent".

Mirallas is a "unique goal scoring threat".

Lukaku is a player with "unique potential".

Stones also possesses "unique potential".

McGeady, if he can overcome his hamstring problems, "is quite unique".

So many gifted individuals blessed with extraordinary abilities. Martinez must feel like fucking Professor X, minus the slaphead and spinal problems, when he walks into that dressing room.

NB: If anyone is interested Amazon currently has a fantastic 'Sportagraphs Roberto Martinez Signed A4 FRAMED Photo Mount Autograph Display & COA'

Apparently makes a 'PERFECT UNIQUE GIFT' and comes with 'a Certificate of Authenticity that carries a unique identification hologram'.

And we assume he's talking about football &mdash with his fondness for going off at tangents, the unique talents he says they all have could be at scrabble or cave diving!

You mentioned Pienaar, Hibbert and Gibson, I'd add Osman, Oviedo and McGeady to that list too. All them players' wages would allow us to either bring in a couple or really good frees or loan players per season.