Everton have 'green light' to appoint Koeman

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Everton have reached an agreement with Southampton to pay off the remainder of Ronald Koeman's contract, clearing the way for him to become the club's next manager.

De Telegraaf in the Netherlands reported late last night that a €5m compensation deal was result of tough negotiations between the Toffees' major shareholder Farhad Moshiri and the Saints, represented by CEO Ralph Kruger and director of development, Les Reed, but Everton can now finalise deal after agreeing terms with Koeman.

An agreement in principal was reached with his agent Rob Jansen yesterday but reports in England now claim that a salary package has been agreed and the appointment can now be wrapped up fairly quickly.

Jansen held productive talks with Moshiri and Chairman Bill Kenwright on Koeman's behalf but Everton weren't granted permission to speak directly with the former Dutch playing legend until compensation was agreed. Kruger and Reed were thought to be confident that they could persuade Koeman to stay at St Mary's Stadium, at least to see out the final year of his contract, but the lure of a significantly increased salary, a reported £100m transfer war chest and the promise in Moshiri's ambitious plans appear to have proved decisive. “We have reached an agreement with Everton. Now it is up to the clubs,” Jansen is quoted as saying by Voetbal International and the indications from the British media is that an announcement confirming the deal could come either on Sunday or Monday.

Koeman made his name as a world class defender who starred for all three of the Netherlands' big clubs — Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord — at Barcelona under Johan Cruyff and on the international stage for his country with whom he won the European Championships in 1988.

As manager, he has managed six teams in Holland and also had stints in Portugal and Spain before continuing the renaissance of Southampton begun by Mauricio Pochettino, that despite seeing some of that club's best players sold over the past two summer windows.

He led the Saints to 7th place in his first season and then 6th place this term, falling just three points off the top four but securing Europa League qualification for the second year running.

Koeman would be joined at Goodison Park by his brother and assistant manager Erwin and, possibly, by first team coach Jan Kluitenberg as well, alongside both of whom he worked on the south coast.

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David Barks
1 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:12:32
In other words, we now have a manager who can teach John Stones all he needs to know in order to go on to be one of the best in the world.
Mick Davies
2 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:18:50
'Koeman will be joined at Goodison Park by his brother and assistant manager Erwin and, possibly, by first team coach Jan Kluitenberg as well, alongside both of whom he worked on the south coast.'

No mention of Sammy Lee there?

Kieran Kinsella
3 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:32:51
Koeman was actually my favorite player as I kid. I spent hours practicing Koeman shots. I also remember seeing him play at Goodison for Feyenoord when I was a bit older. Doesn't mean he's a good manager but there's a kind of symmetry for me
Robert Stuthridge
4 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:33:50
Hope I'm wrong, but I wonder if we haven't gone for a "nearly man", instead of appointing someone who has a task records of winning leagues/trophies (and would have been more eager to run the team) - like De Boer?

If this goes through though, with the resources available to Koeman next season, I'd expect us to be seriously competing for CL places, even without Lukaku and Stones. I doubt that Moshiri will have the patience of BK.
Gordon Crawford
5 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:35:38
If he gets the job, he has my support. I just hope success follows him.
Dave Wilson
6 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:40:45
I'm happy with Koeman, I just hope he gets the money he needs to really bring the team on and that includes the Trafalgar Dock.
Michael Sopt
8 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:49:58
Mr. Moshiri brings the money so Mr. Moshiri gets the manager he wants.

Excellent choice, in my opinion.

Bring on the transfer times, keep Stones and Big Ross. Bring in the keeper and a new striker. Bring on the youth.

Welcome aboard the new Ginger-one.

Tony Draper
9 Posted 04/06/2016 at 01:55:06
Interesting times ahead at "The Grand Old Lady". Although, regarding the Ronald deal ?

It's not over until "The Grand Old Lady Sings" !

John Pierce
10 Posted 04/06/2016 at 02:03:59
Well just about to sit down and watch the USA national team disgrace themselves against Colombia. But I do so feeling we have our man and more importantly have done so in a manor that reeks of dead eyed ruthlessness. Did Koeman ever want the EFC job, looks like he was fine at So'ton but he was clearly pursued and sold something he coudln't ignore

So the fact its Koeman is to a certain extent is irrelevant, its more important is the change in approach, the decison to target one guy, despite the frenzied rumours generated everywhere, when in truth we knew little to nothing

All this done by a new majority shareholder who has to date said nothing except for a few opening platitudes

I do hope he gets to annouce the whole thing, just to symbolize the change in professionalism at the club, and of course the changing of the guard

Mr Moshiri you appear to be on the right track!

Jamie Crowley
11 Posted 04/06/2016 at 02:16:32
John ye of little faith! USA can give em a game! Yankee effort mate, Yankee effort!

Welcome Mr. Koeman! Way too much chatter for this not to cross the line (as I cross my fingers).

Everton under The Mosh is going to see very bright days ahead.

John Pierce
12 Posted 04/06/2016 at 02:22:50
I will be warmly surprised if the USA manage a win infact I need them to finish 2nd to see them play Brazil in New York! But you're spot on, USA rely soley on effort, ah'em 'Hustle to win themselves a game, no flair, creativity or a maverick to change it up

I hope Stones stays only to see him pull Sturridge down clean through al a Koeman c.'94, then we know hes been coached! UTFT!

Paul Black
13 Posted 04/06/2016 at 03:18:05

CAN ALL OF US PLEASE JUST HAVE A BREAK FROM THE NEGATIVE STUFF whether justified or not and just enjoy the moment with all of us knowing it absolutely has to be a better time for each and every one of us?

Jay Woods
14 Posted 04/06/2016 at 03:26:52
This is definitely an improvement on what we had before and while I was leaning towards Emery, his league record last year was a worry whereas Koeman has demonstrated ability in the Premiership with a smaller club than ours.
Peter Barry
15 Posted 04/06/2016 at 03:43:07
Even 'Bill and Ben' (readers of a certain age will know what I mean) would be an improvement after Martinez so stop with the criticism until he does something he can be criticized for please.
Chris Bentham
16 Posted 04/06/2016 at 04:49:47
People using the 'what has he won' argument by definition are saying we should appoint pellegrini or LVG ahead of Koeman.

This guy is exactly what we need and with the right technical director taking over Bill's role in negotiations it will be ok.

The thing is for the glass half empty guys imagine being in the room. Southampton finished in Europe second year running got a new contract on the table and he sits down with moshiri who tells him his 3-5 year plan. Koeman big U turn and no it's not just the £6m contract it's the vision.. Think about that for a second.

New ground in 3 years hundreds of millions in the squad it must be exciting what moshiri told Koeman and I for one have a semi thinking about it. COYB
Bob Butchard
17 Posted 04/06/2016 at 05:28:35
Pleeeeeease, make the announcement, make it official, then perhaps the manager can get to work sorting out who he he wants to stay, who he doesn't want and his wish list of personnel that need recruiting. Then while we are all concentrating on the season ahead on the pitch, our new mentor can work out where we are going to create the new venue for our growing expectations.
Phil Jeffries
18 Posted 04/06/2016 at 05:40:22
If he is appointed, a superb piece of business by Moshiri. Hopefully a warm welcome for Koeman at Goodison.
David Barks
19 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:01:33
Look, he would be a massive upgrade from our previous manager. And the most important thing is that it seems the biggest upgrade is the expectation from the board. So time will tell whether he achieves those expectations. But what seems to have finally been implemented at our club is an understanding that poor performances aren't acceptable.

But I still maintain that we must hear someone from the club say our goal is to win the league, as our great former keeper said. That will tell us all we need to know. Obviously not that we will win the league next year and every year. But are we operating as though that is our goal. That's what we need.

Alex Bonnar
20 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:09:25
If, and I still say 'if' pending official confirmation that Koeman has been appointed EFC manager, I suspect that the decision would have been made not only as a result of his team's results, but definitely influenced by his transfer dealings.

Mr Moshiri can not afford to waste any of his transfer budget on poor signings and his experience with RM could have been affected by the purchase of Niasse.
Paul Gladwell
21 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:12:54
Robert (4) Koeman has won trophies, 3 Dutch titles with two different clubs plus the Copa Del Rey with Valencia, let the good times roll, the thought of seeing us play high tempo fitness based football instead of crab unfit testimonial paced garbage is superb, just watch the Goodison atmosphere change too with it, alls we need now is to announce the stadium and watch the other lot across the park join in the meltdown over plucky little Everton with cash.
Helen Mallon
22 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:21:30
I have said on another thread we have signed a steady eddy. Who will keep us up in the top half whilst the new stadium is built
Mark Tanton
23 Posted 04/06/2016 at 06:31:50
So, it's going to be Koeman. I am glad, I think most of our waverers, Lukaku aside, will stay and see what it's like to work for him. He has really worked wonders at Southampton, rebuilding every time his side has been sold.

In the words of the late great Brian Moore - "he's going to flick one, HE'S GONNA FLICK ONE!" Who could forget that game? .

Chris Bentham
24 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:18:35
Here's a theory for you.

Usmanov through Moshiri instructs Everton to pay over-inflated price to Lokomotiv Moscow to filter funds into the struggling club.

Welcome Niasse..!!

Anthony Jones
25 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:24:16
I think he would be a strong appointment, and it would demonstrate that the major stakeholder wants to compete with the better clubs in the league.

Do spare a thought for Southampton fans, though. They lost their previous manager after only a season and a half. Now they may lose his successor after only two. If the roles were reversed this site would be in uproar.
Mike Mulhall
26 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:31:20
Did anyone hear that?

The sleeping giant is waking up!

Well played Mr Moshiri. So far you have done a lot for long sufferring supporters, you have given us some hope and rejuvenated the fanbase after years of crap.

Gary Ashworth
27 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:34:21
If this is true then it's great and it shows Mr Moshiri is persistent and driven. However, with hind sight, it seems this potential outcome could have been predicted from the start. No disrespect to Southampton, but Everton is a bigger club - even before we gained all this new investment. It's clear now Mr Moshiri wants someone with experience and someone who will sock it to anyone who doesn't perform.

So Koeman, Pellegrini and Moyes top that list (although we don't know if Pellegrini has that Latino temperament). Frank de Boer is an unknown factor and this is what've gone with before. Maybe Moshiri feels the job is too big for him. HOWEVER, if we land Koeman, don't be surprised if de Boer takes over at Southampton.

It seems like Southampton and de Boer could be a good match. Then Pellegrini will retire and Moyes will probably be a BBC/Sky pundit until a decent job becomes available.

Andy Walker
28 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:44:01
Reel him in Mosh. Mosh is a driven guy, you don't make billions by sitting on your arse and you don't sell a golden nest egg at Arsenal if you lack ambition. This guy looks like the real McCoy to me.

Koeman was my second choice behind Mourinho so I will be delighted when we get him. He has the credibility of being a world class player, performed miracles at the Saints by building a team from scratch, knows how to set teams up to defend as well as attack, speaks perfect English and is obviously driven too. It will be a brilliant appointment as far as I'm concerned.

Nothing is ever guaranteed but this time at least we have stacked the odds in our favour rather than just taking a punt with a guy who'd just relegated his last club.

Andrew Yates
29 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:45:26
This stinks.........of a well thought out, professionally designed and executed approach, something in my 30 years as a toffee I've never experienced.....Good times ahead!
David Greenwood
30 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:52:41
Every appointment is a risk. There is no guarantee of success.
However I am made up with this. Its great news.

The quality of candidates we have been linked with this time are streets ahead of the last time.

It's been a long painful road at times but good times are ahead.

Mike Mulhall
32 Posted 04/06/2016 at 07:58:26
Gary (#27),

We are a bigger club, I agree, however before Mr Moshiri came along, we were nowhere near as stable as Southampton who for me are an example of how to run a club so I could see that, pre Mr Moshiri why he would say Na your okay, mate.

This era for the first time in years excites me, just the determination to get the Number 1 target is impressive. Koeman is an excellent fit, so I'm looking forward to next season.

I hate bringing up the Reds but I am looking forward to playing them on a level playing field as well as all the other Sky darlings.

Mike Mulhall
33 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:01:31
Gonna have to think of Moshiri chants soon as well... Show the love, haha!
Karl Jones
34 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:11:14
My 2nd choice behind Mourinho. If he becomes our new manager, whats the betting Frank De Boer will be the next Southampton boss.
Kevin Elliott
35 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:16:16
Just off topic but just heard the sad news about Mohamed Ali.
RIP Champ.
Alastair Donaldson
36 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:17:11
I don't know about everyone else but sometimes I get into the habit of thinking about real-life football as if it were Football Manager and so when I hear figures like €5 million being agreed as the 'result of tough negotiations between the Toffees' major shareholder Farhad Moshiri and the Saints' it doesn't impact me as much as it should.

But I wonder how 'hard' those negotiations would have been really. The Saints no doubt would be trying hard to keep their manager. But would Moshiri have had to sell them his vision also do you think or would he just have waved his chequebook?

All this taking for granted this is now definitely happening... ☺

William Cartwright
37 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:19:19
Andrew, I was thinking exactly the same!

Seriously, I have a good imagination but no real experience of hard-nosed business dealings at this level, or anywhere near it. However, whilst I have been a big cynical critic of BK, I cannot help feeling a sense of gratitude and respect for his transition of sale and power. He seems to have achieved all he has been promising for the last 3 years and kudos for that. Even the Roberto appointment for the first year was looking good and no-one at the end of the day has a crystal ball and can foresee everything.


andy king
38 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:29:20
My number 1 choice can blend youth with experience which will please the faithful have acquired the defensive coach we have craved for
This shows we now have an owner who won't take second best and is driven for success
Roll on the stadium development
Good times ahead for us toffee fans
Chris Corn
39 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:30:47
Robert at 4, am I misreading your post? Koeman has won leagues and cups in Holland, Spain and Portugal.
Ian Riley
40 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:34:08
You think we had appointed Moyes on a five year contract. Who do you think we were actually going to get? For the first time we have an investor aiming high. Who knows in five years, new stadium and champions league. Let's sit back and enjoy the moment. Real money to compete and a manager who plays the game with pace.

Southampton fans I feel for you if in all probability you will lose your manager.

Stop the negative thoughts! Short memories! Think back to the Walter Smith days! Happy now, thought so!!

RIP Mr Ali!

Mark Burton
41 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:43:14
If he comes to Everton, at least the defence will improve and his signings should be better than any the Spanish waiter produced. He has premier league experience and knows what to expect from opposition clubs which is a big plus.
Colin Glassar
42 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:52:47
The Mosh and The Ronald, together, will take us back to where we belong. Have faith fellow Evertonians, we are going to the promised land.
Gavin Wadeson
43 Posted 04/06/2016 at 08:53:33
Why are some people moaning?

Taking into account all of the players that are expected to leave the club this summer, Ronald Koeman is the perfect choice for the Everton job.

He proved at Southampton that he can quickly rebuild a team and get them to gel immediately.

Right now, he is exactly what we need.

Paul Ellam
44 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:07:26
Will be more than happy with this appointment, not just because Koeman has basically seen it all done it all as a player but also because he is one of these younger managers who still have a connection with players of today and therefore many will want to play under him. I believe he will be able to persuade many good players to join solely because it is him. Something Martinez couldn't do.
I also love the way Moshiri has seemingly transformed the club in his brief tenure.
He has made us look more professional already, with his handling of Martinez, kick starting the stadium issue again, this pursuit of our new manager and not forgetting his money!
Without getting too carried away (we haven't actually signed a manager yet, or any players of note) things are definitely looking rosy for us, so let's embrace this new weird feeling of being a well run big club!
Mark Pierpoint
45 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:10:21
In many respects Koeman is the safest best option, and I do not mean that in a derogatory sense

1) Prem experience- good player- tactically astute- experience at top clubs- has rebuilt teams before- disciplinarian, who won't let players rule the roost like what has seemingly happen under Roberto.

If we compare that to others then it is sensible. Emery grabbed me, I will be honest, but he has no experience of England ( not sure I see this as a major issue, but there) English not great also. Risky.

De Boer- Don't get what people assume is better about De Boer. Only been at Ajax and has no expeience of a budget. Rewind back pre Moshiri and I think he would have been the sensible choice. I think Moshiri has been put off though after MArtinez and Niasse. If he is going to give a budget, history of spending well is clearly high up his list. It explains why they have spoken to Moyes.

Overall, I am content. I believe that Koeman will take us forward. How far, nobody knows.

Steve Butterworth
46 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:12:39
If we secure the services of Koeman, it will demonstrate a very different culture emerging within the Club. A culture of ambition backed by a determination to succeed. I will then, for the first time in countless years, believe that we will, not can, win trophies. Moreover, I believe the stadium of our dreams will come to fruition.
Ed Curry
47 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:13:01
As a southern Toffee, I have always had a soft spot for the Saints. I do feel sorry for them, but they are a selling club and Moshiri seems to've sold to him his vision for the club. We are not a selling club anymore; we can build a squad that can hopefully challenge without having to worry about how many players/staff will move during the transfer windows. Onwards and upwards.
Jim Potter
48 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:15:02
Gavin #43 - because this is TW!

Wake up man!

Raymond Fox
49 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:15:13
Paul 44, you have no evidence to say Moshiri has transforms the club yet.
This is what pisses me off about forums, peoples opinion/guesses repeated enough get to be treated as fact over time.
Dave Abrahams
50 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:28:46
Paul Black (13) amen to that, let's give the man our backing when he gets here.

Today my thoughts are on one of the greatest sportsman of all time Mohamed Ali, thanks for all your performances in and out of the ring, UNFORGETTABLE,I loved you nearly as much as I loved my team EVERTON. Goodnight God bless Mohamed.

Mike McLoughlin
51 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:33:44
To be fair to Moshi, whilst he has t transformed the lub yet, there are definite signs that things are changing. He has identified his target and gone for him. He made sure of this by investing heavily in getting his man, doubled his wages, paid compensation to the Saints. Will be interesting to see how the summer unfolds and to see who his Football Director will be. That will settle scene for what future business model he will adopt. We should all know by the end of the summer how this will turn out. Wouldn't it be just bliss if we captured the Premiership before them across the park. Oh it will be across the city in three years
Martin Nicholls
52 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:36:16
Dave#50. I second that. RIP The Greatest.
Ian Burns
53 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:37:55
I have said on other threads Koeman is not my first choice but once this is announced as official he gets my 100% backing and I wish him well - because we need to see these exciting times translated onto the pitch.

Too late for Lukaku and Stones but I am looking forward to a summer on TW when the transfer targets start to come through as "rumours" - and the arguments start again!

Bring it on!

Martin Nicholls
54 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:39:01
Niasse swap for Long or Pelle? Well, we can dream!
Andy Meighan
55 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:39:48
I see some on here are having sympathy with Southampton fans losing another manager. Well sorry, they won't be getting any from me. This sort of thing goes on all the time in football. After all, didn't Man Utd take ours 3 years ago.

Look, Southampton fans have had the nerve to criticise our side our ground and our fans since this story broke so sod them. Were a far, far bigger and better club than the likes of Southampton, Swansea, Stoke, West Brom etc and yet these little tin-pot outfits have the audacity to laugh at us.

I'm nearly 57 and have only ever watched us in the top flight. I wonder how many of the clubs' fans I've mentioned above can say that? I'd guess none. Fuck Southampton and their part time support. I hope we trample all over the bastards on our way up. And that goes for the other 3 as well.

Kim Vivian
56 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:42:54
One of the most iconic, entertaining and honest sportsman of all time passes on. Privileged to have been of an age to enjoy his prime years. A man who lived and stood by his ideals.
RIP Muhammed Ali.
Keith Harrison
57 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:43:09
Peter and Paul (not sure what happened to Mary), 15 and 13 - where exactly was the negativity on this thread when you posted?
In stark contrast, this thread is a cocaine-fuelled high of positivity compared to the usual main forum fare on ToffeeWeb, with the obvious exception of Raymond (49). If this really pisses you off, Raymond, 1) Why do you read them, and 2) Why post on them.
In defence of Paul (44), would you not agree that since Mr Moshiri has came in, our level of professionalism and actions off the pitch have soared to previously unknown heights?
Chris (16). we have already had 3 semi's this year - there is no need for you to get another. Haven't had my breakfast yet mate!!
Keith Harrison
58 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:47:31
And RIP Cassius Clay/Mohammed Ali.
The clip here with Evertonian Freddie Starr on the Parkinson Show is fantastic:-


Another legend of my youth moves on.

Phil Martin
59 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:48:14
Forget semis I've got a 3/4 on.
Ian Bennett
60 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:49:24
It looks like it will go through which is really encouraging. a) He is the best candidate and b) it looks like a new era of us being able to execute on business and bringing in our first choice target.

First signing Forster?

Keith Harrison
61 Posted 04/06/2016 at 09:57:36
Phil (59). At least it will stop you rolling out of bed mate.
It's maybe time for Lyndon and Michael to start a ToffeeWeb members erectile dysfunction thread.
Or just a thread about ToffeeWeb members' members!
I bet Koeman stiffens up our back four at least.
Kim Vivian
63 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:01:21
Mark 23 - I remember that clearly -That retaken free kick. And I remember thinking EXACTLY the same before BMoore even said it. It was one of those weird moments when you kind of know what's going to happen before it does. Gazza's euro goal vs Scotland was another. Genuinely true. Not making it up.

But don't ask me about lottery numbers tho'!

James Hughes
64 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:02:39
Someone on TW kept saying nothing would happen until the 4th June – looks like they were right. COYB
Patrick Murphy
65 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:06:12
Has the club been transformed? Like any revolution it is probably too early to tell, however, compare and contrast the managerial candidates between a few years ago and the present day and that gives us a clue as to the direction the club are heading. Add to this the possibility that a new ground will be built in three years time mainly because Mr Moshiri has the financial muscle to back such a scheme even if he himself doesn't fully fund it from his own pocket.

The next few years could be very exciting for Everton and Evertonians and whether Koeman or some other manager helps us to lift silverware is in the lap of the gods, but for the first time in a very long time the chips are stacked in our favour, we all hope that the chance to at least restore some of our former glory is grasped with both hands.

It won't be easy as many clubs share the same ambitions, but at least now, with Moshiri on board, we should be in position to give it a right good go – that's all most of us have hoped to see, an Everton FC that strives to achieve tangible progress.

Darren Hind
66 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:06:32
Always dragging things down to gutter level, Harrison.

Funny though.

Mike Allen
67 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:11:54
If big Ron is our next manager, let's not get carried away with who he is going to buy... Remember all the so-called big clubs are rebuilding and most of their buys will have to be high profile.

So let's hope Ron stays away from the fantasy football transfers, uses the good players already in the club, and he fills in the blanks with footballers – not bench-warmers.

Keith Harrison
68 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:18:34
Cheers Dazza. btw, Bad Co and Sambora in September. Tickets out now.
Raymond Fox
69 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:18:56
Keith, it pisses me off because there is no proof/hard facts that I can see that Mr Moshiri has done anything yet.

It's all media talk at the moment. In what way has our level of professionalism soared to new heights as you put it?

The sacking of Martinez was inevitable because the supporters had turned against him, there had to be agreement between all the owners about the sacking for it to happen.

Let's wait till we see what happens in the manager pursuit and if there is any improvement in our transfer dealings before we are handing out plaudits.

I will be as happy as anyone if Mr Moshiri does indeed turn out to be our saviour but nothing much has happened yet.

Brian Harrison
70 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:23:53
Absolutely delighted if Koeman signs in the next few days. He was the only guy I wanted, and whether Lukaku or Stones have already agreed terms with other clubs, it didn't faze him when most of Southampton's best players had been sold before he moved in.

I like the fact that he comes with no over riding philosophy only a winning philosophy. I know being a great player doesn't mean you will become a great manager, but for me this guy has all the right credentials to be a success.

I know some have questioned whether there is a seed change happening but what is for me beyond question is it is Moshiri's money to invest big money and the possibility of a new ground inside 3 years if the Mayor is to be believed. I honestly don't think Kenwright could have convinced Koeman to leave Southampton.

I posted a few weeks back that a very good source had told me that Koeman was the man they wanted, he also told me that Moshiri speaks very positively about what he wants to achieve. We might at last have a chairman with Sir John Moores drive.

Mike Allen
71 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:27:33
Please not Forster – another giant who can't command his six-yard box. Also, his handling is pretty poor – he is just another new breed of keepers who are blockers, not actual goalkeepers. We need a couple of keepers, that's for sure, but Forster shouldn't be one of them.
Keith Harrison
72 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:30:46
Raymond, I have tenuous access – limited admittedly – to background goings on mate.

Since Mr Moshiri came in, we have reduced season ticket prices, at least told a time-scale for a new stadium, sacked a manager, and appear well on the way to appointing another who is a level above our usual suspects Moyes, Dyche, Howes, Pulis and Sparky. All under the radar until a Dutch journalist spilled the beans, not Everton.

The times they-are-a-changing!

Joe Hurst
73 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:31:32
Colin (42) Amen to that, Blue Brother.

Theatrical Bill, (Shakespeare that is, not BlueRinse) foretold a time when BrownShoes' Comedy Of Errors would end, and no more wouldst our woes be compoundeth by temporarily exciting fools.

As he said:
"This life, which had been the tomb of his virtue and of his honour, is but a walking shadow; a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the pitch, and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

Forgiveth not shall he be, this Belgian malcontent, despite the goal-tally that helped us not be dragged too close to Bobby's event horizon around the Championship table.

All that is past may indeed be prologue, but if thou knowest thy history..

Raymond Fox
74 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:35:31
Keith, I'm not trying to be a killjoy I sincerely hope your correct.
Keith Harrison
75 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:42:58
Shakespeare's Sister on here now. It's a musical extravaganza.

What next, The Wurzels "I was Farmer Bill's Koeman" replacing Z-Cars?

Keith Harrison
76 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:45:24
And Raymond, Foxhunting is still undertaken here in the lawless Northern Wilds, mate. Just saying like.....


John Daley
77 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:50:45

One thing that has irritated the hell out of me the last couple of weeks has been the over the top media cackling about the two Manc clubs now being helmed by the two 'greatest' big name managers in THE WORLD and how it must be such an intimidating prospect for anybody looking to compete. As though the very sight of them sitting on the bench is enough to send fear cascading through an opposition coaches veins. Well, one thing is for sure, Koeman won't face either man in fan boy awe. Both Guardiola and Mourinho got their grounding in the game at Barca during a time when Koeman was a big influence and revered at the club. He helped school a young Guardiola on what it took to be a winner and, in his role as assistant manager, was a close subject of study for the always watching Mourinho's ambitious magpie eye. He's a guy they looked up to and admired, not the other way around. 

After years of Moyes fawning over Ferguson and Martinez gushing over Guardiola, it's my hope that having a manager who is overly reverential to no other might go some way to helping the club dust off the inferiority complex that has been allowed to settle over it for so long. 

Incidentally, to those around the catalan club at the time, Koeman was known as 'Floquet de Neu', after the famous albino (vanilla) gorilla kept at Barcelona Zoo:

No real reason for sharing that, other than I like the picture and I'm already planning on spamming Klopp with it prior to next seasons derby....to such a merciless extent that he begins seeing that beastly visage in his nightmares and wakes up each morning sweat sodden and screaming "Get your filthy paws off me you damn, dirty ape".

Raymond Fox
78 Posted 04/06/2016 at 10:58:35
I'm too fast and too crafty to be caught, Keith!
Tony Draper
79 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:09:13
Joe @73.

"But if thou knowest thy history..."

That's just gunna tickle my ribs all weekend, thank you.

Rob Hardy
80 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:10:13
One thing about having decent money at a club is new managers MUST hit the ground running (see LVG and Moyes at Man Utd, Woy at the RS – the rumblings started within weeks).

I do hope Ronnie appreciates long-term planning isn't an option these days footie jacked that old pony in years ago.

"Beware the Ides of March"... Well, October / November actually.

David Price
81 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:21:22
Brilliant news.
Aidy Dews
82 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:24:54
I've said numerous times that Koeman wasn't my first choice, he wasn't even my second (Pellegrini was) but I always said that I'd be happy with him and I'm really warming to the prospect of him being our manager!

He was a brilliant player, class, and he's gone into management and yeah, had his ups and downs but he has won things throughout his career has a player and manager so he has that mentality and he is ambitious and it could turn out to be a very good appointment. He's a name, got a big reputation, Premier League experience and his style and brand of football suits our league so hopefully during in his time with us we will have success!

I just hope we can get him tied down soon so he can get moved in at Finch Farm, get his feet under table and hit the ground running!

John Louis Jones
83 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:25:38
Agent Oscar ‏@Oscar_Agent 2m2 minutes ago

DEAL DONE: #Everton have put pen to paper with former #Southampton boss Ronald #Koeman to become their new manager.

Just leave that here.

Dave Ganley
84 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:33:56
John D, I agree entirely. Hopefully over the next couple of years we can shut the Mancs up... and the RS for that matter.

I'm really pleased should Koeman become our next manager. I had a horrible sinking feeling when Martinez was appointed, whereas now it feels like we are finally starting to see the blue peeking out of the grey skies.

Exciting times ahead and with a decent transfer kitty it finally feels like we will be able to compete at the top table on a regular basis once again.

Paul Smith
85 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:34:12
All the candidates have question marks against them in some form or another. I wouldn't say he would of been my first choice but glad it looks like it will get done soon.

The first job is surely getting rid of the deadwood (Gibson, Osman, Pienaar, Oviedo, Kone, Hibbert, Niasse, McGeady) stopping the youngsters being in first team squad. Then onto transfers and our need for a keeper, central defender, box-to-box midfielder and two strikers for starters.

At least now we can have a transfer window we can look forward to and actually spend more than we get in. If he can bring any players with him would have Forster, Van Dijk and Mane.

Ian Smitham
86 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:39:18
BBC Sport says terms are agreed.
John Louis Jones
87 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:41:54
Paul (#85). We need a bloody left-winger who is left-footed. I can't remember the last time we had one. Seriously... can anyone tell me?
Mark Frere
88 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:44:46
Looks like we are getting our man. Great news on a sad day when the greatest ever sporting icon – Muhammad Ali – has passed away. Rest in peace.
Jim Bailey
89 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:45:44

John Connolly

Mike McLoughlin
90 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:50:56
John Connolly – fabulous player.
Dave Williams
91 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:56:49
Raymond, you are obviously a fan of long standing and so bruised by years of unfulfilled promise that you dare not allow your hopes to be raised until you have certainty and I can understand where you are coming from.

However, assuming this is true. we have most certainly appointed the best qualified manager in our entire history which is cause for celebration. He has much still to prove and achieve but is better placed than most to do so.

Moshiri has been silent which is generally the sign of a good businessman and reminds me of Sir John who was always stealthy in his dealings which made him and Catterick so deadly in the transfer market. A return to those days of quiet steely professionalism would be welcome and I suspect we will get no pronouncements on a new stadium until the deal is done. Only the council leader has said anything about this to date and Moshiri appears to be a doer rather than a sayer which suits me fine.

For all those who have abused Kenwright, maybe it will turn out that he waited for the right man and then got him – as he promised he would all those years ago.

John Louis Jones
92 Posted 04/06/2016 at 11:58:37
89# Jim, Sheedy is the last one I can truly remember even Limpar was right footed. Zindene Kilbane left in 2006. Is this the last time we had any sort of a left-footed winger?
Jim Bailey
93 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:02:24
Dave Thomas?
Zindene Kilbane lol, choked on my butty.
Tony Draper
94 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:03:34
The Mail are claiming that Koeman has agreed terms with Everton.


Martin Nicholls
95 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:05:21
James Hughes#64. Something always happens on 4th June - my birthday! Hoping for the present of a new manager!
Brian Foley
96 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:09:04
Paul Black (13) buckets and buckets of what you said thank you.😀👍
Andy Osborne
97 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:27:38
Quite a few links now saying the deal is done, and it will be announced this weekend before Koeman goes on holiday next week. Didn't he just come back from holiday??

Other links say Martinez, de Boer and Howe are the early front runners to replace him at Southampton.

John Louis Jones
98 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:29:16
Reports that Martinez is favourite to take Southampton job.
Now I feel sorry for them.
Chris Gould
99 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:30:41
Instead of a present, Martin, something poignant has happened on your birthday. Muhammad Ali RIP. A truly great man. My absolute hero.

2016 is turning into a Grim Reaper of a year for truly gifted people.

Andy Osborne
100 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:31:06
And other rumours are starting. This is where the fun starts.

Fraser Forster could follow Ronald Koeman and sign for Everton

Mike McLoughlin
101 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:32:06
He's agreed terms
Terry Underwood
103 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:34:16
Not my first choice, but he will have my support, IF he gets the job.
Ray Said
104 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:36:23
Andy (102) thanks for the link. Getting the best goalie we can afford is a sure way to improve our chances for next year. Forster would be a significant step up from Robles so this would be a great buy in my opinion.
Nicholas Ryan
106 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:44:46
I am amazed by people describing Koeman as a 'nearly man'.

As a player, he won the Dutch league 3 times; he won La Liga with Barcelona 4 times in 4 years; he got over 100 caps for Holland, at a time when they were a force in world football. He scored the winning goal in a European Cup Final; and he won the 'Euros' with Holland.

He has won the Dutch league 3 times as a manager. He won the Copa Del Rey, managing Valencia. He has recent, credible, and mainly successful, experience in the Premier League.

And how about this for a stat: At PSV, in 3 years, he played 130 matches, and scored 63 goals... Yes, that's a goal every other game, and he was a central defender!! And remember, the Dutch league then had some of the best players in the world.

Keith Harrison
107 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:50:42
Raymond, my lads shed door is festooned with brushes of like minded Reynards! hehe

Don't forget RK is still a relatively young manager, will still be learning, those who point out his 'failures' to date, (Mourinho was ace at Chelsea last season wasn't he!)

The Redshite's next anthem will be Whitesnake's 'Standing In The Shadow Of The Blues'

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP_P9RMwGJ4

Roll on August, we'll have sold Niasse in a Lukaku wig to Chelsea for a 'cut price' 28 mill. Romlak to PSG for £65m. Stones will stay and be a proper defender. Ramon Feetwarped Mori to Barca for £25m. Incoming will be Fraser Forster, and Van Dijk, Alvarato Morata, Gameiro, and a driving midfield force.

Oh happy days.

Mike Allison
108 Posted 04/06/2016 at 12:52:05
Christian Atsu is the last left-footed winger we had. He was Player of the Tournament at the AFCON but never got picked for Everton, and when he did it was on the right.

I don't actually agree that we need a winger of the 'correct' foot on both sides. It'd be nice to have the option but a Lennon/Deulofeu type on one side and a Pienaar/Joe Cole type on the other with a quality overlapping left footed full back (of which we have three) can be extremely effective.

James Marshall
109 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:00:23
I like that we're appointing a big name, an ex-world class player who played for years at the very top level, and also he was a defender. I like managers that understand defending, and I feel it's what this Everton squad really needs to understand above anything else.

Going forward is much easier to coach than the art of defending, and god knows that was where our problems were all of last season. Nobody can deny that.

He's going to get loads of money to spend, and the Premier League is going to be ram-full of top managerial talent next season and we can't afford to get left behind.

Koeman is a good manager, without doubt, and should also be able to attract better players. I'm all for it. He was a class-act as a player, and knows what it takes to win games – unlike his predecessor.

Andy Osborne
110 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:00:24
Nicholas 106: read the post by Jim Knightley (205) in "Agent: Everton in talks over Koeman deal"

It's a great post, and is a must read for anyone who wants to know a bit more about Koeman, his tactics, and some of his recent challenges and achievements.

Graham Clarkson
112 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:06:25
He's a look of a ginger Ted Robbins. I'm sure he'll do a great job. Good luck to him. Onwards and upwards.
Daniel Joseph
113 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:12:19
Not my first choice but will have my full support. Welcome to the greatest football club in the world Boss.

Make us winners again.

Neil Clemow
114 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:15:48
Let's hope if this comes around, that Pelle might take the trip with him.
Andy Osborne
115 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:24:42
Not my first choice either. Discounting unrealistic targets (Simione, Murinho) I preferred Pellegrini. But after reading the above post by Jim, and giving it more thought, this appointment makes a lot of sense.

Welcome, Ronald. Do us proud.

Karl Parsons
116 Posted 04/06/2016 at 13:55:58
Koeman looks to be cornered and not one "ring-fenced" comment anywhere. Oh joy; the future looks, and sounds a whole lot better!
Kieran Kinsella
117 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:01:09
He moves around a lot but so did that dog in The Littlest Hobo and he was very popular.
Damian Wilde
118 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:24:28

"I for one have a semi thinking about it. COYB."

Ha ha. Steady on!


"Keith, it pisses me off because there is no proof/hard facts that I can see that Mr Moshiri has done anything yet."

No, just spent millions purchasing 49.9% of the club! Sacked Martinez, sorting out a new manager, etc. Some people just love to moan on here.

I wanted Emery, but maybe he didn't fancy it, but you couldn't blame him as at present it would be a step down.

Koeman seems fairly good. I'm not mega excited, but not pissed off. With the overall picture; Martinez gone, youth coming through, new owner, new manager, possible stadium, money for players. A month ago, I felt one of the lowest I have felt about Everton in a long long time, now I feel enthusiastic... excited! Moshiri could be great for our club (one thing Bill did well) and I'm happy he's on board.

People say 'Koeman's only finished 6rh in the Premier League, steady Eddie.' I'm not totally convinced by him, but he manages 'Southampton', what do you expect him to do, top 4, win the league? They're a small club, 6th is mega for them. Koeman has them playing good football and has signed good players, with more... maybe a trophy?

Plus we need to remember Moshiri won't have just hired him 'cause he did okay/well with Southampton, maybe he came across incredibly well in the interview process with vision, ideas, etc.

Anyhow, let's get behind him, exciting times ahead! COYB.

As for Southampton, I sort of feel sorry for them, but on the other hand think they're lucky to have had the last two managers they've had and the players they've had, they're only Southampton!

Paul Kossoff
119 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:27:40
Update, Southampton boss has held talks with the Toffees and agreed to join with their transfer budget being the key factor, according to the Mail.

Express Sport understands Koeman will be given the biggest budget in Everton's history this summer following the arrival of major shareholder Farhad Moshiri.

And the ability to compete for top-level players in the market has apparently convinced Koeman to leave St Mary's for Merseyside. Hope he brings some class signings with him, and not payers that are no better than what we have here.

Paul Kossoff
120 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:30:37
Apparently Koeman wants the deal signed and sealed this week then he has a holiday and can start immediately he gets back.

I would love Forster as his first signing.

Mark Frere
121 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:30:46
This is all very exciting. A new billionaire owner about to appoint a very sought after top manager, who will have plenty of funds to spend on new players. Realistic talk of a brand new stadium on a iconic waterfront.

It seems we have some very serious businessmen running our club. Proof will be in the pudding of course... but nevertheless exciting times ahead.

Denis Richardson
122 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:31:14
News just gets better and better.

Sign him up then ship out Lukaku and Stones for silly money and bring in the likes of Mane and Van Djik, (sorry but never really understood the fuss about a defender who's not that good at defending, who also put in a transfer request).

Next season already looking up.

Keith Glazzard
123 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:33:33
I can't see Koeman being a bad move. Some of the other names under consideration sounded interesting enough, but each time I thought 'premier league experience?" Like any player joining the club, there's a lot to learn, to get used to. Koeman is there already, battle hardened.

And there can be no way that he would take the job on without being satisfied that he would get the backing he needs.

I'm optimistic.

Ray Said
124 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:38:31
Koeman would not have been my first pick but I think he is a definite upgrade on Martinez and so is welcome. I understood what he said at Southampton press conferences, he seems to have more than one tactic or formation in his book, he seems to have bought well and has been able to motivate his players.

Maybe we are seeing evolution not revolution and each year will bring a step forward in management, scouting and players. The signs so far are that this management recruitment has been handled professionally and that augers well for the future.

The area we need revolution is the ground as that is the game changer.

Paul Kossoff
125 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:41:33
I think the Mail has it wrong, I'm sure Koeman just came back from holidays.
Martin Nicholls
126 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:55:38
Whilst I like some of the Southampton players mentioned above, Koeman is said to be coming here because of the transfer budget available to him. If that is so, he could be aiming even higher than the players he was able to sign for Southampton.
Carl Sanderson
127 Posted 04/06/2016 at 14:56:16
" ... I for one have a semi thinking about it. "

That was the problem under Martinez ... we only got as far as a semi.

Seriously, this is an excellent choice. I wanted Mourinho, but this guy will be a success.

Alan Bodell
129 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:00:49
When he came to Goodison with Feyenoord in '95 he was sat by the coach window at the players entrance and I gave him a big grin and a few thumbs down, he just shrugged with a pout.

Never thought I'd ever be happy to see him come as our leader.

Paul Black
130 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:07:26
Open question....

Apart from selling him, does anyone think Koeman could fix our Niasse problem?

Mark Frere
131 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:11:11
Paul (128) - Have you seen Koeman's record at Valencia and AZ Alkmaar? We're in for a real rough ride!
Kevin Rowlands
132 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:13:11
For those who are not to keen or he's not their first choice, he's now 1/16 with sky bet, he's coming like it or not. Can we at least give him the pre season tourno in Germany before we start the Koeman out campaign?
Damian Wilde
133 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:13:33
Carl (127)

"... I for one have a semi thinking about it. "

That was the problem under Martinez ... we only got as far as a semi.

Laughed me head off ha ha! So under Koeman we may get to a rousing final win?

Nick Entwistle
134 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:13:58
I'm completely on the fence about this. Probably my second choice on the 4 probable options behind Pelligrini, but compared to the aching despair of Martinez walking through the door it feels so much better to have a proper manager who can lick the team into shape.

We'll be fighting it out with Chelsea and West Ham behind Spurs, Utd, City and Arsenal. Decent attack And defence.

Leicester and Southampton, who knows.

Colin Glassar
135 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:15:57
I'd love to hear the conversation between Rom and Ron.

Translated from Dutch:

RL - "So Ron, sell me your plans for the future. Convince me to stay man.
RK - "They don't involve you Romelu, you are being sold to the highest bidder"
RL - "You can't do that to me, I'm the greatest, my dad tells me so every day!!"
RK - "Too much talk Rom from you, your vater and your big mouth agent"
RL - "Please let me stay boss man, my dad will kill me as know one wants to pay da big bucks"
RK - "Bobby E, call security please. Mr Lukaku is leaving"
RL - "Noooooooooooooooo, I want to stay. Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!!"

Nick Entwistle
137 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:18:30
Forgot about Liverpool... And that's a nice place to be in.
Robert Stuthridge
138 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:20:14
Fair enough, Paul (21). Don't get me wrong, I was thrilled to get rid of Roberto. I also think Koeman is a good manager. It may be that none of our better players will now be quite so keen to leave. This looks like an exciting transfer window coming up... The best in decades, I expect.
Ernie Baywood
139 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:20:57
I wonder what Southampton fans think of this. I know everyone had money now and we're not exactly moving into the Abu Dhabi category of wealth, but it must still grate on other clubs. That we can poach a manager from the 6th best team in the league last year speaks volumes about our current and historic standing.

I haven't heard Liverpool fans talking about us recently so that tells me they see a change coming.

Personally I'm feeling excited, and that hasn't been a common feeling in my time supporting Everton.

Paul Kossoff
140 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:21:09
Colin 135, brilliant lol.
Colin Glassar
146 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:37:47
The Ronald is known as a no-nonsense type of guy. I'm sure our players will love him and I can see at least Ross and Stonesy staying. I also think Rom will want to stay but his market value, and big gob, might mean he's sacrificed to give the Ronald an even bigger kitty.
Paul Kossoff
150 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:42:54
Apparently 'Koeman wants Forster as his goalie.
Colin Glassar
153 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:49:55
I feel a bit sorry for the Saints fans. manager leaving, player exodus and now, OFFM red hot favourite to take charge. Poor, poor people.
Paul Kossoff
154 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:50:46
Typical Echo. 'All the latest on Everton!' Then underneath:
Liverpool all the latest in transfer rumours and gossip!
Alan Bodell
157 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:55:45
Paul (#142), they can't help themselves, mate, and it's just like whenever an article on the Daily Mail website regarding EFC appears, it gets more comments from them than us! It's got them very worried and I'm loving it.
Paul Kossoff
158 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:56:09
As far as Lukaku goes, well I hope he gets a shock and no one comes in with what he wants as far as wages and Champions League. Then he will have to knuckle down and give 100%, because I know Koeman won't stand for any shit from him.

I'm sure Koeman dropped one of his team for having the wrong attitude.

Paul Kossoff
160 Posted 04/06/2016 at 15:59:17
Alan, I really hate them, they think that they are a class above, and have a right to success, please God it's our turn to be top dog, and I bet they are shitting red bricks.
Tom Bowers
162 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:06:29
I am happy the deal is being done now and not closer to the new season. He now has time to sort things out and hopefully get Everton 100% ready for that first game.

Who knows he may bring one or two decent Soton players with him.

Paul Kossoff
166 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:22:37
Southampton manager Ronald Koeman has agreed terms to become the next Everton manager, reports the Daily Mail.

The Dutchman has appeared as the clear favourite for the vacant Everton position this weekend after Everton pushed hard to secure his signature.

And it appears that they have done just that, with the Daily Mail reporting that the Dutchman has agreed terms with the club after discussions with the Toffees hierarchy Bill Kenwright and Farhad Moshiri this weekend.

George Green
168 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:30:56
If this is true then I'm so happy. Koeman was who I wanted as our new manager so I will get right behind him. I just hope he can bring silverware back to Goodison Park.
Andy Crooks
169 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:33:51
We appointed Roberto Martinez. God almighty this is surely in a different league. Look at our optiobs compared to last time. I actually advocated Neil Lennon. Anyone, absolutely anyone was better than Martinez so,in my view, if we get him it is bloody magnificent.
Steavey Buckley
171 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:35:34
A new manager, a great goal keeper to be bought and a couple of other players bought as well and with one of the best academies in the premier league, no wonder there is a huge amount of season tickets sold for next season. Bring it on for next season.
Mark Tanton
172 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:36:38
Never one to re-write history, I will admit I was very excited by the prospect of Martinez and his Champion's League talk. This feels a different league though, a real 'name' manager.
Tamhas Woods
174 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:40:41
I said long before Martinez's sacking that Koeman was the man we needed.

May I be publicly gunged by Dave Benson Phillips if I am wrong.

Paul Kossoff
176 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:43:27
Koeman's brother is coming too and Duncan Ferguson has been told he will be retained, hope that goes for Sheedy and Rhino.
Paul Mackie
177 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:49:36
Wasn't my first choice, but still excited to see what we do next season with him at the helm.

There's gonna be some angry Saints fans today, that's for sure.

Phil Roberts
178 Posted 04/06/2016 at 16:57:08
And 8/1 4th favourite to take over is Martoinez! Who in their right mind would lay that as a bet? At 22/1 for relegation, I can see these odd shortening if they appoint him.

We are 10/1 on being in the top 4 – that could shorten

Ray Said
180 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:04:19
Osman, Hibbo, Gibson and Pienaar are all out of contract and will need to be replaced with hopefully at least two of these squad places to be filled by promoting younger players from the development squad. These are players that have had no influence on the pitch for at least a whole season so replacing them is important but not vital.

I hope the new managers main focus will be on buying the best goalie we can afford as filling this position with a high quality player will be the biggest single improvement in next seasons points tally we can make.

Andrew Lightfoot
181 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:20:07
Should we expect an announcement today or tomorrow? Seems like more of a Monday morning kind of thing.
Stephen Coles
182 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:21:57
The suspense is killing me!
Paul Black
184 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:46:24
Andrew it might be on this evening's news and the EFC website sometime towards the end of next week.
David Israel
185 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:47:46
Phil Roberts (#178), I have put some dosh on that 10/1 while the going is good, because, come Christmas, we'll be title favourites (this is my modest contribution to the anti-moaning campaign developing here. :-))
Colin Glassar
186 Posted 04/06/2016 at 17:50:38
Andrew, it's all done and dusted according to agent's tweet. Just a case of sorting the compo out between both clubs. I imagine Monday will be the official announcement.
Steavey Buckley
188 Posted 04/06/2016 at 18:20:20

Ronald Koeman has agreed terms with Everton over his switch from Southampton, according to the manager's agent Rob Jansen.

He told Fox Sports in the Netherlands: "We have reached an agreement with Everton. Now, it's up to the clubs."

Frank Thomas
189 Posted 04/06/2016 at 18:53:06
Sorry, Koeman is good but not the best option for us. So let's see what he did at Southampton they sold all his best players just before he arrived which gave him cash and no need to clear out any older players that had had a great season – they sold to Liverpool and the players did not shine there so great choice to sell them – not Koeman's.

Then Koeman had an okay second season and a good season but he could have had a cracking season with much better players. That does not prove Koeman is a great manager.

So why come here? Not sure... maybe a £5M+ salary with a guaranteed £5M+ pay off if he proves as good as Martinez. Compared to a £3M salary. Then we are also going to give him a £100M+ transfer kitty and probably a 5-year contract. Would you jump ship?

Southampton must be laughing all the way to the bank... great manager, sorely missed, long term signing for us ....please give us £8M. Then they will sign FDB and we will have paid FDB's salary for the next 3 years, thanks Everton. The same team that bought Niasse.

Mark Ryan
190 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:02:37
It is looking less likely it will be Moyes so at least we have that nightmare scenario over and done with. If Koeman signs I'm more than happy.
John Keating
191 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:05:07
Bloody hell Frank have you booked the clinic in Switzerland to finish the weekend off? Talk about doom and gloom. A fucking dog would be better than the last clown so it has to be better surely?

Rather than slag him before he even arrives can't you wait until after his first game in charge?

Mike Mulhall
192 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:10:56
The best thing since 95 happens and some people moan...

Beggers belief.

Paul Kossoff
193 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:12:26
Frank 189, Anyone coming to Everton or any other team is a gamble. Who would have thought that the special one at Chelsea would fail and lose the so called dressing room.We all have to hope now that with a new manager we can get into the top six again, and as Leicester have shown, it's not impossible to succeed with hard work and team work.
Tony Hill
194 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:15:36
I think we can now assume this is completed save for details. I can't wait for the new season. Let's be glad for once.
Terry Davies
195 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:15:48
Frank Thomas (189)

What bloody planet are you on. it seems to me that if we'd got Pep as manager, Conte as his assistant, Mourinho sorting out players and Klopp as coach you'd be looking for where we'de gone wrong. For Christ's sake let's give the man a chance. Moshiri wanted him from the start; he was told there was no chance; Southampton said he was staying for the last year of his contract; Koeman said he was happy to stay at Southampton.

Our one (slightly) minority shareholder spoke to him and now it seems he's coming to us! That makes me think we've now got a man in charge who knows exactly what he wants ans goes out to get it. I believe Koeman is an intelligent and principled man and I do not believe for a minute he would have left Saints unless he was totally convinced of Everton's aims and ambitions. Lets hope this goes through and I can't wait for next season

Peter Mills
196 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:17:28
It's some job isn't it? Get paid minimum£5m a year then log on to this site once a day to find out what to do.
Colin Glassar
197 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:19:32
I heard Koeman left two transfer target lists. One for Moshiri and one for BK.

The Moshiri list was full of top young players from around the world. The BK list had the likes of Bernard Breslaw, Frankie Howard, Charles Haughtrey and Charlie Drake. BK took a long look at it and was heard to say, teary eyed, "What a manager!!".

Kieran Kinsella
198 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:19:32
So manager business is out of the way. Now a couple of weeks of DOF rumours, followed by debate on Lukaku and Stones sale price, and we can move onto player purchase rumours in early July.
Paul Kossoff
199 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:21:26
John (#191), We don't have Martinez here, we won't have Moyes here, and we have Moshiri who is obviously not just here to make a quick few million more.

I hope his Russian billionaire friend arrives too and we can do an Alex Ferguson, 'Knock those bastards off their perch!'

Terry Davies
200 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:25:06
Posts 196 - 198

Ha sanyone out there ever seen a glass half full. For Heaven's sake let's be bloody positive

Terry Davies
201 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:27:34
Paul (191)


Paul Kossoff
202 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:29:14
Colin 197, I only awsked, Oh missus, oh I say, and hello my darlings, twas ever thus with uncle Bill.
Brin Williams
204 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:29:55
These suspenders are killing me!
Dan Davies
207 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:32:30
Terry why are you so positive? The way your going on anyone would think you've been told we've got a billionaire in charge who's about to pay big money for a manager, players and possibly a new stadium a few years down the line!

No pleasing some people ay?

Paul Kossoff
208 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:33:30
Brin, me sling backs are starting to pinch.
Colin Glassar
209 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:34:01
Are you a parrot, Paul? Overmars for me Kieran. Sounds like Monchi is happy to stay in Seville. If Mosh can convince him that would be a gargantuan statement of intent.
Eugene Ruane
210 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:35:23
Frank (189) - 'Southampton must be laughing all the way to the bank.. great manager ... sorely missed ... long term signing for us ....please give us £8M. Then they will sign FDB and we will have paid FDB's salary for the next 3 years, thanks Everton. The same team that bought Niasse'

We will have paid nothing - a very very rich individual might pay all that, but it won't cost us (me/you) a bean so..why worry about it?

It's weird (to me) when I see supporters sweating about money others may spend as though it's costing them.

Let's assume Moshiri (nb: the billionfuckingaire!) has started to make decisions and let's also assume the way he gets what he wants in business is to simply say yes (or no) to a price.

Well...that's it really, if he's happy to pay it, fine with me.

As for Koeman's managerial ability, all this analysis is quite frankly, bollocks.

"His win ratio with FC Pørno was only 37.2%" blah blah.

For every argument for/against Koeman/De Boer/Simeone etc etc, the following can't be disputed.

Last season, Mourinho, a serial winner, couldn't buy a win with a club that have billions.

Ranieri on the other hand, who was sacked as Greece manager after they lost at home the fucking Faroes, took relegation candidates Leicester to the PL title.

Does that tell you nothing?

It should - it should tell you that there are no guarantees and that no one really has a clue how a season will unfold.

If whoever comes in gels well with the squad (ie: they don't hate his guts after 2 weeks) sells a few, buys a few and gets them fit, that'll be a decent start for me.

After that, who knows (not those giving it 'this+this=that', that's for darn tootin').

Want certainties?

Tough - there are none.

Any new manager could be successful, could piss around in mid-table or could take us down.

(obviously if it was Moyes, we'd be more likely to be the pissing around in mid-table).

Cathal Naughton
212 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:38:30
My opinion is that Koeman is decent but £7m is a bit mental. Maybe others see something in him; I don't. His teams have a tendency to implode during games more regularly that most with strong management. I seem to remember the Saints getting their arses handed to them 3-0 at St Mary's due to a great away performance by the Toffees early last season.

I didn't notice any great tactical nous from Koeman during that fixture, in fact they were brushed aside by a far superior blues side on the day. I was creaming my pants at the prospect of Emery rocking up at Goodison and if he ends up at St Mary's instead, I will have a canary because he is the real deal and would have set us on a road to sustained lasting success.

Paul Kossoff
213 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:49:47
Cathal, You can't say that with conviction, we don't know who will be successful this season, as no-one could see the impossible happening for Leicester.

Emery could go to the Saints, get sacked and Southampton relegated. No-one knows, ask our new owner, the Premier League is a big business, and a bigger gamble.

Tony Hill
214 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:50:16
What will matter is not merely Koeman and his talents but the synthesis with the club, as Eugene points out, and for that there is obviously no precedent.

I am very encouraged that Moshiri has acted so decisively and has refused to listen to the prats who said that Everton was a step sideways for Koeman and that we should know our place; that is the difference, and it promises a great deal.

Patrick Murphy
215 Posted 04/06/2016 at 19:51:24
Cathal (212) May I refer you to Eugene's post at (210). The plain fact is we don't know how things will pan out with any manager at any club. Remember Howard Kendall, the manager of Everton and the Champions in 1987, he went to Spain and didn't set the world on fire.

By contrast, Terry Venables had little success in England, took Barcelona to a Spanish title and a Spanish cup win and a European Cup final which they lost on penalties in 1986.

Colin Glassar
216 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:04:13
I can't stand all these ex-footballer pundits. Now Trevor Sinclair (wtf is Trevor Sinclair you may be asking) yes, Trevor fucking Sinclair, perennial loser and journeyman extraordinary and now a BBC knobhead (we pay his fucking wages btw) is saying Koeman will use us as a stepping stone to get the Arsenal job.

Well, fuck me mystic, Trev, have you been on the old tarot cards again? Talking to Sav and Fletch? Or just abusing the weed? I wish these morons would keep their moronic opinions to themselves. Pisses me off.

Trevor Peers
217 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:05:10
Koeman has got tactical nouse and looks like a tough disciplinarian which is a massive improvement on Roberto's amateurish approach.

So whatever happens it has to be a massive improvement from the last two seasons. At least we have a chance of real success this time round.

Clive Rogers
218 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:08:33
This has got to be a win-win situation. He's got to infinitely better than the two championship managers our clown of a chairman took on. If he's not, I would imagine he won't last too long under our high achiever new owner. All hail Moshiri for saving us from Kenwright!!!
Paul Kossoff
219 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:13:51
Colin, calm down, at least Kevin Kilbane has said we are a step up for Koeman and not a backwards one as some have said.
Colin Glassar
220 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:17:07
Killa is one of us Paul. His opinions don't count.
Raymond Fox
221 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:17:12
Good post, Eugene (#210), pretty much sums up what we might expect. No-one can tell if it will all gel or not.

Damian (#118), I'm not pissed off with Moshiri, quite the opposite, I get pissed off with people posting things as if they're facts.

Take your "He sacked Martinez" – who says he did? He would have to have the consent of the other owners to sack him.

All we can say is that he probably instigated his sacking. Martinez had to go; he had lost the supporters, his position was untenable at the end.

Mark Melton
222 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:25:32
The Telegraph are saying Emery might be interested in the Southampton job...
Tony Hill
223 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:26:57
Colin, I should imagine that of any club Koeman might go to Arsenal will be the very last given Moshiri's history. I think this is a long term commitment by both parties and that is what we need. It says a lot that Koeman has been persuaded by Moshiri to come to us now rather than wait for a year in the hope of Arsenal coming to him.

Too difficult for Trevor & co to work that out, of course.

Oliver Molloy
224 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:33:11
No there may be few guarantees in football but I would think the reported salary Moshiri is offering will have a performance related percentage in there somewhere.

Likewise, if he had a blinder of a first season and Arsenal etc did came calling I would expect again Moshiri will have his back covered. We shall see!

Andy Crooks
226 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:38:31
Eugene, true. We can do all of the research in the world, line up the right man, get him in and on the first day he has a toothache, calls Baines and Jagielka a pair of cunts, he is off to a bad start and we are Villa.

Or, walks in,the lads love him and we are Leicester. Or we are Everton and are mid table. Toss of a coin, that is it. However, I am full of hope.

Some Saints fans saying (honest to God, I don't blame them) that we are the new Pompey.

I like our new approach, I hope he is our new manager but, well, we've, likely, stolen their coach and I feel there's not much Corinthian about it.

Brin Williams
227 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:39:14
Colin G 216 - To paraphrase another Emery "Oh you are awful...but I like you!!' Dick.......(Sinclair I mean!)
Denver Daniels
228 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:40:27
Mark, if Emery ends up at Southampton I'll eat my hat. If he's been approached by us but declined the offer, why would he go there?

I know the Saints are in Europe this season, but really, what would be the motivation? Can't see it happening.

Mark Melton
229 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:45:24
Denver, I'm as sceptical as you about the likelihood, but the implication was we turned Emery down for Koeman
Jon Withey
230 Posted 04/06/2016 at 20:47:14
Better manager, £100m of new players and a potential new stadium. You can always ask for more, but that's not bad.
Terry Davies
231 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:00:29
Thankyou Dan (207)

Why would anybody on this post want to be negative? Koeman might take us to League 2 in 3 years, but it's probably unlikely, he might win us the League, but it's probably unlikely. What isn't unlikely but a fact is that he's one of the best managers in the Premier League and, since he's been there, hasn't put even a toe wrong, let alone a foot. Why don't we all just hope (and think) for the best and look forward to next season with really positive anticipation? We can at least have an off season without foreboding

Sid Logan
232 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:01:13
Quite frankly I can't be arsed reading all of this thread to see if there are any doubters but I will say this:

If we do get Koeman every Evertonian should be delighted! As Eugene rightly says above nothing is absolutely guaranteed or can be take for granted but Koeman's appointment is possibly the absolute best we could have hoped for. Any doubters should check out his win ratios as a manager. They're up there with the very best.

Moshiri is undoubtably the best thing that could have happened to us and his joining the board likely to be Kenwright's lasting positive legacy in an otherwise quite uninspiring chairmanship.

Moshiri has handled the whole manager sacking/replacement situation extremely well. He has brought a professionalism to the appointment of a manager, which under BK, would never have been remotely on the agenda. Moreover he appears to have a determination to see that the club achieves the potential that's lain dormant for what seems like an eternity.

If Koeman's appointment comes off it can only lead us in to a new era of optimism and enjoyment the likes of which, for my money, I have not witnessed since the holy trinity graced our side. I accept this latter view is a purely personal perspective.

Let's all try to switch to a positivity to which we are now fully entitled to. I just want to see the press conference and then roll on next season.

Good luck to me and good luck to you!

Terry Davies
233 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:06:24
Sid (232)


Iain Latchford
234 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:13:35
I've seen Emery being linked to Milan and PSG. He's not going to Southampton. If he holds on he'll probably get his pick of Barcelona or Real Madrid depending on which manager cocks up first. I can see De Boer going there. Gives him an opportunity to prove himself in Premier League then move onto bigger and better things if he does well. Sure Saints fans would wish him well *cough cough*.
Jim Lloyd
235 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:14:59
I think we've been very lucky to get Marhad Moshiri as our owner. Yep, some go on about "why only 49.9% Must be something dodgy" and it might be true but I doubt it.

I think this man is one real decisive character, says little but does much. Wrong? Yes, I might be – but that's how I see him. I go back to his statement in the Programme after he had bought the shares. Not word for word but on the lines of "will give my all for Everton." "The stadium issue needs addressing but it will likely cost a fair bit more than the original one." "I know this club has a great history and I want to get to know more before I develop MY plans for the club."

He said some things but there were a couple of points where he was absolutely clear and the main one, in my view, was the point about MY plans for the club.

If Koeman comes, and it looks very likely. That is the first step (after sacking Roberto!) into taking us back into a top club.

There's been lots of talk on here about the various managers who could have come to the club; but in previous years those talks would have been nothing but pipe dreams.

I think now, that if Koeman becomes our manager, it will be purely because of Mr Moshiri selling him his vision. I feel certain that Koeman was determined to stay at Southampton until eventually going to try for a plum job with someone like Barcelona or Real Madrid.

He might well still do so, but first he will have to show how he can handle the expectations of a Big club.

He will have to produce the results or he will be moved on. He will have every chance to prove himself and I hope he does so. But, Like Man City, Chelsea, Man Utd, and Liverpool. We will now be a results driven club with the manager knowing it, and if he doesn't deliver...

So whether he is the best candidate or not, I suppose is a matter of opinion. But the opinion of the feller that matters is Farhad Moshiri, and that'll do for me.

Raymond Fox
236 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:16:18
Sid, with Moshiri on board and if the papers are to be believed on his intentions to spend big on the best manager he can bring to Goodison plus back him with a mountain of cash there is every reason to be optimistic.

Denver Daniels
237 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:16:58
Mark, I'd be extremely surprised if we turned down Emery for Koeman. The guy has to be in at least the top 10 club managers working at this time.

Koeman has done a great job at Southampton but I'd take Emery over him any day of the week. I think most people would.

Denis Richardson
238 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:20:41
For all the moaning (I honestly think if some here won £120k on the lottery they'd moan they didn't win the big one!), one thing IS for certain, Moshiri ain't mincing about so if Koeman doesn't stack up he'll get someone else decent in (rather than fanny about for 18 months too long à la Martinez when it was obvious to most the guy was a bullshitter by Jan 2015).

Koeman (and anyone else for that matter) is a risk as the manager can't guarantee success with so many other variables to take into account. However, he IS a much better manager than both Martinez and Moyes so is the best manager we've had in at least 14 years. If you include the likes of Walker and Kendall Mk III then this is the best manager we've had since Joe Royle – ie, FOR TWENTY YEARS!

It may or may not work but before it's even started, that bit of info should be enough to make EVERY toffee happy. So how about we all stop the grumpy moany shit and admit this is the most exciting time to be a blue nose in two decades. And I haven't even mentioned the billionaire who is our new largest shareholder!

Stick a smile on your face 'cos the future is certainly better than the recent past. We can look forward to this transfer window knowing we're not going to be signing players like Niasse, Kone or Denis fucking Straqualursi! We're also going to clear out A LOT of deadwood that should have been done ages ago.

Only thing that's not known is which position between 1 and 10 we will finish in the league next season – my money is on top 6 and it's a pity the odds on us finishing top 4 are only 10-1.

ToffeeWeb is known for being miserable but the people moaning about Koeman being appointed should deregister and sign up with the Samaritans.

Get a grip!

Rob Hardy
239 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:21:32
I think Randy Lerner, Hicks & Gilette, the helmet at Newcastle and the chicken pluckers at Blackburn are siren warnings about wealthy owners not getting managerial decisions right.

The long term effects for the club are what people rightly "sweat" about.

Paul Kossoff
240 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:24:28
Ronald Koeman agent confirms Everton agreement. The agent of Ronald Koeman has reportedly confirmed that the Southampton manager has agreed terms with Everton.

The Dutchman has been in talks with the Toffees over the past few days after Everton made him their number one choice to replace Roberto Martinez as manager at Goodison Park.

Dave Abrahams
241 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:28:09
Jim (#235) I hope, like you that Koeman comes in and makes Everton a better team than they have been for over two decades, we can only wait and see.

Regarding Mr Moshiri I think he will prove to be a great director, in the real sense,for the good of Everton FC, he could even be a part of a great future partnership if Mr Usmanov gets fed up at Arsenal.

All-in-all the future looks much brighter for the club and most certainly for us fans. Already looking forward to next season with hopefully much better performances than the depressing ones that littered Goodison for the previous 18 months.

David Edwards
242 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:31:51
Initially not my first choice, but the more I read... including some well thought-out TW contributions... the more I am getting a very positive feeling about this appointment.

Koeman gets my 100% support as our new manager, but 100% of my praise must go to our new owner, Moshiri, and his team for what looks like a well thought-out, professional approach to this saga. If he has seen Koeman as his No 1 target for a while, and steadily pursued him while looking at other options – and potentially taking Arsenal's heir-apparent from them – then we are finally dealing with an owner on another level to what we've seen over the last decade or so.

....and that's not even taking into account the new stadium talk etc.

Whether Koeman ends up as a success or failure, Moshiri has done all us fans could hope for, and provided he continues to walk the walk, then I'm the most positive I've been about the club since the mid-eighties!

On a slightly different note – I hope Lukaku attracts the silly money his father's mouth suggests he is worth, and we can clear out this mercenary soon. While I'd like to see Stones stay, especially when we have attracted a manager who can potentially undo the damage done to him by Martinez – I'd take silly money for him too – as his defensive wobbles scare the hell out of me, and I'm sure Koeman and his staff could find a replacement without too much effort at present, given their experience and scouting set up.

The future is bright! COYBs. NSNO at last!

Frank Thomas
243 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:34:46
I want Everton to win something, years of work building a productive youth team and young potential managers is now about ready to bear fruit so the next manager is crucial. No, Terry (#195), I would not want Mourinho he is about himself the team is secondary. That will change for his next two years as Man Utd or he is finished as a manager. Pep would be good and even Klopp neither would come unless we offered £10M+ pa and had some recent success.

Man City's old boss wants a stay in the UK and a big pay check – no thanks all that money and still we beat them (just as we beat Southampton 3-0 under Koeman's management).

Koeman will bring a good defensive set up and seems to have an eye for the ball. What is worrying is that he is off ill for two or three weeks last season and his team had quite a dip in performance why?

I would like a manager who wants to be here because of the club, the fans and the players and the money is way down the list. FDB I think would sign for £3M (Ranieri's salary in 2016-17). He would also bring defensive qualities and attacking play. His 4-3-3 attack and 4-5-1 defensive combines Moyes best defensive play and the best European attacking play.

As for Moshiri, he is a clever man but did not make his money through football. he did not select or have anything to do with appointing Wenger. So this will be his first choice of manager. I don't know enough about the other managers not mentioned above but success over 6 years is not luck. Winning a cup is luck – ask Martinez and Van Gaal.

Colin Glassar
244 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:38:40
Goodison, under Koeman, will be like an oasis of peace and tranquility surrounded by three drama queens. Ronald comes across as being ice cold, calculating and quietly ruthless.

Let Guardiola, Klopp and Jose jump, flap, gesticulate and whine while our man gets on with the job of restoring us to glory. I can't wait.

Damian Wilde
245 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:41:20

"It's some job isn't it? Get paid minimum £5m a year then log on to this site once a day to find out what to do."

Laughed heartily at this one! Yeah, plenty of experts on here... at '?moaning' anyway :D

David Chait
246 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:42:16
He clearly isn't perfect, nor my first, 2nd or 3rd choice, but I'll optimistically watch this space. He might take us tight up there... who knows.

Very curious post on GOT forum from Saints fan. Say he had submit runs with terrible runs. There were times they were thinking his time was up and then he would go on a run. Apparently 2nd most points post Christmas after Leicester.

Biggest issue they had was he apparently did NOT promote the youth. There goes my thinking. But he did come out and say they were not very good which upset the brass over there. Maybe he was right after all the young talent had been picked off. I know I'll not be overly enamored if I don't see our best boys given a run.

The other main gripe was route 1 football.. sounds like the Dutch Moyes was spot on!

BUT he has also beaten every other team.. found ways and adapted the tactics to win. States he is a master tactician, but his style was incongruous to what the club wanted to play. Oddly sounds like FDB would be their best bet and I would love to see him go there so we could get a straight comparison..

Seems like it a done deal and its the one Moshiri wants.

Seems to me we have gone for Moyes without having to get Moyes. Safe, pragmatic but someone who can sort out the mess left behind.

Dan Davies
247 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:50:52
Koeman wasn't my first choice either but there we go I'm not the billionaire deciding.

Martinez is gone so let's get out of the negative dark cloud he had a lot of us under and embrace the new manager.

Hopefully Mr. Mosh is going to be an owner we will learn to trust and respect over time. The future is looking bright.

Chris Leyland
248 Posted 04/06/2016 at 21:59:04
I for one am made up that he is coming. He is a positive manager and a positive person l. However, unlike the last manager, it is positivity with a purpose. He has a 48/49% win rate in the Premier League despite having to rebuilt the team twice in 2 seasons. He has tactical flexibility and he also has The ability to win at the 'big' clubs.

The mob across the park have theirarm waving, attention seeking serial loser, but we have a manager with the potential to move us up to the next level.

Christopher Marston
249 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:05:18
He hasn't signed yet. Muller?
Jim Lloyd
250 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:07:58
Dave (241) Yeh, I think that Mr Moshiri has decided that Koeman is the best candidate and has been determined to get him. FdB might be a top Manager and the lad who got his team to snot Liverpool is another. But I think that our first step is to get a manager with who has a fair bit of experience abroad but, vitally, experience in the Premier League.

The main thing to me though, is that Mr Moshiri will expect results and he will give Koeman every opportunity to produce them; but if they don't show, well, I think that will all be in the contract.

Like you, I think he will prove to be a top class owner. I'm not sure why I think this, maybe wishful thinking; but I can see Mr Usmanov selling up at Arsenal and becoming a Director at Everton. Between them, they have a powerful lot of money, but equally importantly, they have links with many more potential sponsors who will be wanting to come on board.

I should stay off this real ale but I'm getting a good feeling about an upturn at long last, in the fortunes of Everton Football Club.

Phil Rodgers
251 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:10:11
Everton have shat all over Southampton and made them clean up the mess. Fucking have some of that. Feels like they mean business for once.
Don Alexander
252 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:11:06
Just for the record of those pointing out that "even we" beat Southampton last season, the match was in August, Koeman had lost further first team players in the summer, signed new ones who hadn't bedded in, and had a weakened team because of injuries meaning neither Forster or Van Dyck were in the team.

As if that wasn't enough Koeman had just ruptured his Achilles heel and had needed immediate hospital treatment in the days before the match, so his input was probably minimal (he attended the game on crutches).

Apart from that, it was, as Martinez said, "the complete performance" by us.

Sid Logan
253 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:15:14
What's all this safe crap!

Koeman is far more than that. He's a very talented manager who's ambitious.

Safe would have been Mark Hughes or som other also-ran manager. To talk about Koeman as being the safe choice is utter bollocks.

Compare his record with the best of the top managers and he shows up well. Anyone else talking about Koeman as If he's some sort of Kenwright compromise is talking shite and to be honest I don't want to hear it right now.

John Davies
254 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:30:47
Sid Logan #253 you are spot on. Can't wait for Koeman to get started. Best appointment we could make. Happy days.
Ernie Baywood
255 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:35:16
To be honest, he's an experienced manager who is proven to be decent at his job. There are a few of those out there and any of them would have done.

I still think the real test is whether the club is ready for success. Will we hold the manager to account? Will we support him with funds? Will we insist on a certain direction and level of ambition for the club? That includes commercial performance and a new home.

We've been led by our last two managers in their image. I'd like to see the club lead now under Moshiri. Give the manager a platform to simply coach good players to play to their potential.

In the right circumstances, a good manager can succeed. We don't need to ask for miracles.

Gordon Crawford
256 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:39:59
Let's not jump the shark, he isn't our manager yet. Until he is unveiled I'll not get too excited.

But Moshiri seems to be a man with the bit between his teeth and that's a good thing. Feeling much more positive about him and his plans for our wonderful clubs future.


Peter Gorman
257 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:47:41
If we sign this guy Gordon, I will jump into the water with the shark and give it a great big kiss.

I can't wait for the announcement - it will be the best news we've had since we sacked Martinez.

One can (and clearly some are) drive oneself mad wondering about all the what ifs and maybes regarding other candidates but simple fact will be we are a damn sight better off with Koeman than that last clown.

Peter Gorman
258 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:49:38
Oh and if having Koeman doesn't work I fully expect the club to sack him and appoint somebody else. No more misty-eyed, slobbering-drunk-aunt-at-a-wedding "what a manager"s.
Francis Hogan
259 Posted 04/06/2016 at 22:58:19
Seen as we've gone Dutch...
Nicholas Ryan
260 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:22:47
When all the dust has settled, and the shouting stops, and the moaning ceases; I'd like all Evertonians to quietly consider this fact.

What do Jose Mourinho, Guus Hiddink, Mark Hughes, Jurgen Klopp and Slaven Bilic all have in common?

Answer: They all finished behind Koeman last season.

Andy Crooks
261 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:23:09
Phil # 251, poor post. We have been shat upon often enough. If I was a Southampton fan I would be pissed off at the total lack of integrity that has surrounded this deal.
Damian Wilde
262 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:35:03

"Seems to me we have gone for Moyes without having to get Moyes. Safe, pragmatic but someone who can sort out the mess left behind."

What? Ffs, cheer up.

Be great to beat that wavey armed, arrogant 'five time loser' and his merry bunch of c**ts next season. Go on Koeman, bang him, son.

Patrick Murphy
263 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:38:00
Andy (261) I must admit you do have a point, however, this is a shark-infested league with high stakes and richer rewards, we ourselves have tried the Corinthian way and it hasn't done us much good in the recent past. David Moyes ran down his contract without consideration for his employers and left for United with no compensation due to Everton FC. Bill should have asked David Moyes to sign a contract in the last year to cover the club.

Southampton themselves could have locked Koeman into a longer deal but chose to wait until the end of his second season before offering him an extension. The only loyalty in football belongs to the supporters everybody else in the game are only thinking about their own agendas and bank balances, it is sad, it may even be immoral but that's the way it is.

Perhaps somebody who is slightly older than I can inform us whether Harry Catterick was under contract with Sheffield Wednesday when Everton came calling?

Phil Rodgers
264 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:51:31
Andy Crooks, Before having any sympathy for Southampton, I suggest you read some of the nonsense they have been spouting on twitter.

I for one am delighted to see Everton being assertive for once, instead of being trampled on in the media and by other supposedly bigger clubs. Long may it continue.

Mike T Jones
265 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:52:09
We are being 'big',

No one becomes a billionaire without ruthlessness. I've got work on Monday. We may not win the League next year.......but this Club is back.

About time - stop the small Club mentality on here

Eugene Ruane
266 Posted 04/06/2016 at 23:59:51
David (246) - 'He clearly isn't perfect, nor my first, 2nd or 3rd choice, but I'll optimistically watch this space. He might take us tight up there... who knows.'

1) We'll never get a perfect manager as..there's no such thing.

2) No one knows.

James Flynn
267 Posted 04/06/2016 at 00:04:56
He succeeds or fails. The all-time best have. Ferguson himself had seasons without silverware.

What's important is that EFC have hired, by orders of magnitude, a manager better than the one dismissed.

Orders of magnitude better.

The games will be played and we'll see.

Simon Bates
268 Posted 05/06/2016 at 00:33:28
It's not that I don't rate Koeman, he has been above decent so far in the Premier League and will bring qualities severely lacking in Martinez with attributes clearly lacking in the squad.

I don't know, I think after the top names we have been continually linked with has turned an appointment which the majority of Evertonians would have been ecstatic with after the west ham game and up until Wembley.

I will obviously get behind him, just not over excited yet, however I'm going to convince myself, yeah... Diego who?

Jamie Crowley
269 Posted 05/06/2016 at 00:38:33
Nah! Piss on prudence!

I know we'll be a Champions League team in three years with a beautiful new stadium on the water in five years.

We don't know what's going to happen... of course we do. We're gonna rocket up the table and become England's biggest, baddest, silverware-laden team!

Embrace the hope - it's back! We're gonna win the league FFS! ;0)

Steve Green
271 Posted 05/06/2016 at 01:32:55
As someone who lives under 10 miles west of Southampton I have been a keen observer of Soton and Koeman including a season ticket until this past season. He has had to deal with a bit of shit on the rebuilding front – twice – and done it swiftly and relatively successfully from what I saw.

The deal clincher..... just over 2 months ago a manager was 2-0 down at half time at home to the red shite, made some changes and came out in the second half and shafted them 3-2.... He'll do for me... long may that continue (although I would obviously prefer not to be 2 down in the first place).

Peter Gorman
274 Posted 05/06/2016 at 02:38:42
One thing is certain; either we will win the title next season or we won't.
Eric Myles
275 Posted 05/06/2016 at 02:49:32
Patrick #263 "Bill should have asked David Moyes to sign a contract in the last year to cover the club."

And what if he'd refused? What do you think BK would have done??? Sack him?

Kieran Kinsella
276 Posted 05/06/2016 at 03:19:34
Are we paying a premium for Koeman? Yes but that's what happens when you don't win the league for 30 years or the cup for 20 years. It wasn't like Chelsea or City started getting players and managers in on the cheap when they got rich owners. Without the allure of recent success, you have to offer up something else to make you stand out from Stoke and Soton.

Money usually does the trick. With that said, the money in the modern game is so ludicrous that it's meaningless. Whether we pay him £1 million, £6 million or £1 billion – it's all pie in the sky to the average punter.

Mark Andersson
278 Posted 05/06/2016 at 06:30:47
Happy to see most blues happy and feeling optimistic .

So we await the official statement. Koeman will do for me. Just watch two short documentaries on the demise of Villa and Newcastle .

Scary stuff that we were heading that way. Mr Moshiri saw it too good on him for getting rid of Martinez.

Fingers crossed for a summer of hope.

Colin Glassar
279 Posted 05/06/2016 at 07:49:23
With the addition of four top players (GK, LM, No.10, Striker - to accompany Rom) we should be able to challenge the top 4 next season. We should've this season with the squad we had but it wasn't to be.
John Graham
280 Posted 05/06/2016 at 07:58:06
Just in the airport. Off to Fuertaventura. First pint of the day. Let's hope there's an announcement today so I can have a few more to celebrate. Exciting times ahead I hope. Once the new manager is in I can settle down ready for the Euro's. Going to be a busy summer on the transfer front. God I just love the blues and football.
Ian Jones
281 Posted 05/06/2016 at 08:03:29
It would be better to be challenging for Top one position. If Leicester can win the title etc...Our current squad is good enough under the correct guidance
Jim Lloyd
282 Posted 05/06/2016 at 08:28:27
Andy (261) I can't see where we have acted with a lack of integrity in any way but maybe I'm missing something. We've asked the club for permission to talk to Koeman and it was granted. I can't see what else we could have done, except not to have approached them at all.

It appears that Koeman wasn't fully convinced about a signing a new contract anyway, as his statement regarding lack of ambition seems to refer to the club continually selling its best players.

He must think that Southampton will not match his ambition and it seems to be that their previous manager left for the same reason.

Dave Abrahams
283 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:01:50
Patrick (262), Sheffield Wednesday had just finished second to the great Spurs team that year so it was more than likely that Harry was under contract to them, but I can't vouch that he was.

John Moores was an honourable man but if he wanted something then he knew how to get it, he was a mover and hopefully Mr. Moshiri is in the same mould.

Paul Nicholls
284 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:27:08
Still no agreement in place between Everton and Southampton according to Alan Irwin on SSN. Still time for us to fuck this up. We can't, can we?
Chris Corn
285 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:30:30
Paul 284, Don't really see what the issue is. One years wages should be enough.
Damian Wilde
286 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:37:48
Get a grip Paul, he'd be in the dugout for the first match and some moaners on here would still say stuff like this.
Christopher Marston
287 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:48:11
All too soon. He hasn't signed anything yet. No agreement with Southampton yet. There is NO deal at the moment. He can still change his mind and say no.
Sam Hoare
288 Posted 05/06/2016 at 09:52:17
Colin 279, interesting that you don't include any defenders in that list even though it was our defence that was our undoing last season on so many ocassions. Perhaps that was more to do with the philosophy and management but i'm still not sure we have a top 4 CB pairing in our team. Maybe Stones and Funes Mori can kick on and become one but i'm not totally convinced by the Argentinean in particular. Wouldn't mind Koulibaly from Napoli or similar, a real unit with pace to dominate physically. A Vidic-like player to go alongside Stones' Ferdinand.
Jim Lloyd
289 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:01:09
I don't think we have a squad yet who are capable of challenging for a top four place. We might well do though, if Koeman comes and begins his work by buying in some top players. My guess is that Koeman would like to see what he has and then make his mind up as to what he needs to bring in.

Mind you, he'll have a decent idea from seeing us play, but we're going to have to replace Lukaku if he wants to leave, I'm not sure about Ross Barkley and where he would fit into a team pattern and we don't have much in the way of alternatives if anyonbe is off form or injured.

I hope some of the youngsters make it into the squad on a regular basis, but I we would be doing much better than expected if we madse it into the top 4, or even the top six, in the first season.

That's assuming we get our man, that is!

Rob Halligan
290 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:13:30
It's becoming almost an obsession reading the comments from the sinbads about all of this as it is reading TW. Some of their comments are way below the belt, criticising the city of Liverpool, and it's people. I mean, has anybody ever been to Southampton, what a dump of a place.

Remember going to the first game of the season down there many years ago. There were three of us and we stayed overnight. As per normal, we won the game, 2-0. We went on the ale after the match, then went for an Indian. After that back on the ale in the town centre. I kid you not, there was not a soul around.

This was in the days when last orders was 10.30. The bar we were in had less than ten people. By 10.45 there was only us three and the landlord was actually waiting at the door to lock up.

The sinbads now think they are a bigger club than us, just because they finished above us in the last two seasons. They finished above Chelsea and the RS last season, so are they bigger than them two?

Big clubs win trophies and don't spend many years outside the top flight. Tried to find their honours list, but couldn't. So here it is, should fit on the back of a postage stamp. FA Cup 1976. Probably not worth making a list for!!

The only thing they have said correct, is the state of Goodison. We all know it's rundown, but still generates a better atmosphere then their flat pack, bought from IKEA, stadium. Our rundown stadium will still, however, have more season ticket holders than their capacity next season.

So should Koeman join us, welcome aboard RK. You will be joining a bigger club, with better players and the best and most loyal fans in the world, who will soon (hopefully) have the best stadium on Liverpool's iconic waterfront, not stuck in the middle of some industrial estate.

Colin Glassar
292 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:23:26
Sam 288, you're right. A back up/competitor for Seamus is a must, Dani Alves would be good. Forster, Wjinaldum, Praet and any of a bunch of good strikers out there would do me.
Daniel Joseph
293 Posted 05/06/2016 at 10:25:38
No agreement in place according to SSN one minute ago
Dan Davies
294 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:01:19
Do football clubs announce new managers on a Sunday?
Surely that would be a Monday morning/early afternoon type thing?
Mike Allison
295 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:06:37
This is a better squad than the one that finished 5th 2 years ago, and it produced some of the best football I've seen last year (whilst failing to win games).

The differences need to be mostly psychological and tactical, the personnel are good. We need two signings (keeper and left side), Stones and/or Lukaku may need replacing, and then we're looking at whether or not players are available that are better than the ones we've got. There won't be many of them.

Jack Convery
296 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:15:19
I hear he speaks several languages - as long as he doesn't speak that all to common dialect, shite I'll be happy - had enough of hearing people speaking shite at Goodison to last me a life time.

PS: I though Moshiri was loaded - why go dutch ?

PPS: Has BK offered RM a job as a poster designer for his shows yet - with word like incredible, phenomenal etc he'd be in his element.

I know I need to get out more !

Peter Gorman
297 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:19:59
Pardon me Mike and others who still believe we've got some kind of 'best squad in years' 'capable of winning the league' etc.

I don't see anything but a squad of mental midgets - bottlers not winners. Add to that the removal of the deadwood and the ancient and it should be obvious we need a major overhaul.

People also seem to neglect the fact that the league is awash with cash like never before; pretty much every club could claim to have their 'best squad in years' player for player so it is utterly irrelevant.

The question is; is our squad better than the rest in the league. Absolutely not I think is the answer.

Colin Glassar
298 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:23:47
Daniel, the only outstanding issue is his buyout clause. I understand he's agreed terms and gone back on his holiday. It's now a question between both clubs to sort out the payment details.
Andy Crooks
299 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:25:10
Jim, # 282. it was Koeman that I meant. I don't think he comes out of this well. However, If he's as good as I think he is I expect I'll getover it.
Jim Lloyd
300 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:35:26
Spot on Andy, if true. I was thinking that Mr Moshiri would behave with impeccable integrity on all business matters, as his reputation would be in tatters if he was a dodgy dealer.

I can understand why the Southamton supporters would be upset if Koeman undertook to stay, then dunarunna without asking the club for permission to speak with our boss.

I think there's that many ""reports say" and "sources close to the club/manager/player" rubbish; that separating fact and fiction (or creative reporting) becomes more and more difficult.

What Rob says is indicative of how easy "Scousers" get maligned for something, however weakly the story is linked to the people of Liverpool.

Dan Davies
301 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:47:54
Peter@297, I don't really want to talk about potential players before we've even got the manager sorted but I think you've got it right with the 'mental' side of things.

Evertonians have been calling for a manager who is a winner, someone who is and has been successful, in the hope they can bring that mentality to Goodison.

Everton also need this with their players too. Some players have been without winning anything for so long with us, I feel we need to sign, eventually, players that have that winning mentality.

Two or maybe three players that have actually won things and have the hunger for more, some people slate Lukaku but at least he states he wants to win stuff. We need players signed, who will bring belief into the squad.

Doing the double over the RS would be a good start! I don't think we need a big overhaul, four or five signings and a batch of fearless hungry youngsters courtesy of Mr.Unsworth should do it.

Keith Harrison
302 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:52:09
Has he signed yet?
Frank Crewe
303 Posted 05/06/2016 at 11:52:15
If he has a buyout clause then meet it. We're looking to pay him £7,000,000 a year and a transfer fund in excess of £150,000,000 not including any cash from player sales. So why are we baulking over the small change.

Koeman has managed eight clubs before us and I'll bet none of them had to work this hard to get him.

Keith Harrison
304 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:03:13
Has he signed yet?
Oliver Molloy
305 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:23:33
Peter @ 297

I totally agree, some major work to be done with our squad.
I was reading somewhere the other day that every club in the premier league will have and spend a minimum transfer budget of 60 million .

This league really is awash with TV money.

Denis Richardson
306 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:27:55
Cannot imagine us not agreeing comp with S'ton, RK only has 1 year left on his contract as it is, also this is Moshiri we're talking about and not BK.

May be a bit early to say it but 'Mortimer, WE'RE BACK!'.

Denis Richardson
307 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:34:35
I see that some yanks have just bought a 60% stake in Swansea, the Swansea City supporters trust owns 21% of the club and will keep it's seat on the board.

Wonder if Everton will ever get to the stage where it lets the supporters' associaton have a seat at the board?

Raymond Fox
308 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:35:53
Peter I agree, we have Coleman, Baines, Stones, Lukaku and Barkley that could be first choice in a couple of your usual top 6 clubs and that could be seriously stretching it on their form this season!
I don't see any others that would be.

It looks like Southampton have took the hump and want their pound of flesh, I don't think you can blame them.

Ray Said
309 Posted 05/06/2016 at 12:41:00
I think we can all agree on one thing-NO MURALS OF THE MANAGER!!
Damian Wilde
310 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:10:25

Good post, nicely summsrised. Do you have any links to the gsrbage they're spouting? Be interested to read! :D


"hear he speaks several languages - as long as he doesn't speak that all to common dialect, shite I'll be happy - had enough of hearing people speaking shite at Goodison to last me a life time."

Love it! RM spoke a lot of 'shite'!!

People are getting impatient about his appointment, chill out will ya, enjoy the moment.

The good times will roll. COYB.

PS Does anybody know much about his assistant and coach?

PPS The people who said Moyes was coming back, quiet now...

Jay Woods
311 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:10:33
You know, ever since the Kopites starting singing Beatles songs at matches back in the mists of time, they have been (rightly or wrongly) widely perceived as the "cool" club in the city. For the first time in my life, it feels like we now have the chance to take over that role, especially if we can get the new stadium built.

As for the Southampton fans, I think most of those posting deranged comments about them being the "bigger club" are actually just kids. The metric by which they are making that absurd claim is finishing ahead of us for the past 2 seasons, which is plainly only something a teenager would posit as a rationale for the claim.

Gareth Clark
312 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:12:57
Brilliant to see that we aren't being the "nice guys" for once!

Do what needs to be done - my man Moshiri!!!!

Rob Halligan
313 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:18:35
Have a look on here, Damian. Talk about bitter and deluded:


Darren Hind
314 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:19:11
It was suggested on TalkShite this morning that the Saints are considering Roberto Martinez as a replacement for Koeman.

Funny old game

Paul Conway
315 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:27:57
Bob Halligan @ 290 spot on. Southampton are our drubbing boys.

I remember way back in '71, when I was a young lad, we hammered them 7-0, I remember so well reading the 'Shoot' (does anyone remember the comic?), a Southampton supporter wrote to ask the date of the next fixture, so he could get revenge!

May I just add, to all the born yesterday supporters of the so-called 'big' Clubs. the sleeping giant who is Everton FC is about to awake... with a hard on!!!

Oliver Molloy
316 Posted 05/06/2016 at 13:30:35

I would be surprised if our former manager gets a job in the premier league unless some club are absolutely desperate. He did himself no favours with his constant denials and failures to fix what needed fixed.

I hope he gets a job in Spain, because I want to hear if he speaks the same crap over there as he did over here.

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