Report Coleman seals a fantastic win for Everton Brilliant late goal from Coleman off a superb ball from Davies gives Everton a very important late victory. Michael Kenrick 21/01/2017 170comments | Jump to last Leighton Baines starts despite a slight doubt over a rib injury Crystal Palace 0 - 1 Everton Everton travel to the Capital with an unchanged starting line-up looking to build on last Sunday's big win over Manchester City when they take on the Eagles.New signings Morgan Schneiderlin and Ademola Lookman are on the bench, along with Bryan Oviedo. The home side kicked off and put the visitors under some pressure, a soft free-kick awarded against Barkley failing to threaten. But Palace continued to press forward and not let Everton settle. Mirallas swung in an early free-kick that Benteke headed away. Ominously, Remy had played in two good undefended crosses from the Everton left. From the other side, McArthur put a great cross in for Benteke that smacked the bar behind Robles. With 10 minutes gone, Everton started to see more of the play, but it was stop-start. Barkley got some time on the ball but found no space for a forward ball. Williams fired a long ball forward that Coleman headed back cleverly for Lukaku and Mirallas coming on was sandwiched but no spot-kick awarded. Barkley had a tremendous little run and lashed in a good shot that was deflected over for a corner, taken by short by Barry, that eventually fell for Mirallas who put in a great shot that Hennessy somehow parried away. Article continues below video content The Yellows were taking greater control and some neat play saw Barkley fire in another tasty shot, though curling toward Hennessy. Funes Mori tried to man-handle Remy, and Everton attacked again with some impressive football that won a third corner but they weren't really threatening. With a quarter of the game gone, Everton were now dictating the play, and moving the ball around well enough in midfield. But Holgate got caught a little and was booked for a loose challenge, giving away a dangerous chance but Cabaye's ball in was cleared.Everton's midfield pressing was pretty much absent when the ball was turned over, allowing the home side a little too much space. Funes Mori got forward and put in a decent ball for Lukaku but a foul was called. Remy put Baines under pressure to win Palace's first corner, then a second and a third, with lots of head-tennis until Barkley broke forward, Lukaku hit the post but Barkley clearly offside when he tapped in the rebound. Good work by Coleman won another Everton corner, Mirallas putting it in the mix and Funes Mori lashing a brilliant shot goalward that Hennessy superbly palmed behind when it seemed a certain goal. Palace threatened at the other end, Remy almost sneaking in. Barry committed a silly foul on Benteke, and Puncheon whipped in a great ball that Holgate or Funes Mori put behind. Barkley was fouled, giving Mirallas a set-piece chance but Palace broke fast and Everton recovered well from the advanced position.Remy and Funes Mori were having a fair old tussle with the Argentinian most likely to see a yellow card but the whistle for half-time came with no time added by Referee Taylor.Everton restarted and were bright, with Mirallas getting a chance but not connecting, then Davies playing in a great ball for Barkley whose cross was Deulofeu-esque, with Lukaku as usual too far back for the tap-in.Palace tried to respond with a break of their own but the Everton defence was firm. The passing forward less-so, with lack of movement limiting the options, and too many balls played backwards. Barkley tried the same move off a short corner but could not get it past Hennessy this time. Schlupp made a good run into the Everton area for a Palace corner that threatened but play was son back at the Palace end, Coleman firing in on goal from too far out. Another tremendous run from Barkley, his shot across goal running wide with Lukaku not quite there to profit, another chance gone begging. Coleman crossed well for Lukaku who headed over. Morgan Schneiderlin replaced Gareth Barry just before the hour mark.Davies won a free-kick with some determined pay wide right, Mirallas swinging in the free-kick but not to a yellow shirt. Perhaps it was time for Lookman to torment his former paymasters? Not yet, said Koeman, as he watched his players moving the ball backwards again.Some fine probing and a good passing sequence ended with Barkley firing in on Hennessey as the minutes ticked away. A great ball from Lukaku set Davies free but his cross/pass was very disappointing. Ademola Lookman finally replaced Kevin Mirallas on 72 minutes. His first touch was to drive into the Palace area and fire on Hennessey. Great determination. The boy definitely has some great ball skills Some great play saw Coleman cross for Baines or Lukaku but neither could convert at the far post. Schneiderlin was called for wrestling McArthur, giving Palace a chance to advance, Puncheon lashing over.Coleman looked to have got past Schlupp but a superb tackle gave Everton the corner, another poor one, this time by Barkley. But Palace broke and Baines fouled McArthur. Dann headed in off Puncheon's superb delivery only for Robles to pull off a brilliant save low to his right.Into the final 10 minutes and the knowledge that one goal would be enough to win this seemed to spur the intensity with tiredness leading to mistakes, Holgate mis-kicking and giving away the foul but Everton looked to break from it; however, it was too scrappy. With Schlupp off the field, Everton continued to probe patiently, Holgate firing in fiercely and it was defended away but it came back around for Coleman, off a brilliant pass from Davies, and he drove in, firing high into the Palace net — an absolutely priceless goal for Everton, celebrated with a vivid blue flare on the pitch, as Palace bitched about Schlupp's predicament. Townsend was thrown on to inspire a late surge by Palace, winning a corner with a difficult cross, parried behind by Robles, who was out strongly to gather the corner. Barkley gave away the ball again, but the Yellows defence covered well to protect their precious lead into 4 mins of added time. Jagielka replaced Barkley. Palace attacked again, winning a corner that was once again claimed well by Robles with the last touch of the game, a very fine win for Everton.Crystal Palace: Hennessey; Ward, Dann, Delaney, Tomkins, Schlupp (87' Townsend) ; Cabaye (68' Ledley), McArthur; Puncheon, Benteke, Remy (61' Lee).Subs not Used: Speroni, Flamini, KaiKai, Kelly.Everton: Robles; Coleman, Holgate [Y:26'], Williams, Funes Mori, Baines; Davies, Barry (59' Schneiderlin); Barkley (92' Jagielka), Mirallas (72' Lookman), Lukaku. Subs not Used: Stekelenburg, McCarthy, Valencia, Oviedo.Referee: Anthony Taylor Share article: Reader Comments (170) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Chris Gould 1 Posted 21/01/2017 at 14:19:39 No need to change a winning team. Happy with that.I think Schneiderlin needs a bit longer to get match fitness and sharpness. Barry was solid last week.Great to see that Koeman has stuck with Robles. Brent Stephens 2 Posted 21/01/2017 at 14:30:49 Like the lineup. David Hallwood 3 Posted 21/01/2017 at 14:37:56 What I was Hoping for. Btw Swansea were 16/1 to win today. Did anyone have them? Jay Wood 4 Posted 21/01/2017 at 14:38:19 Same again from last Sunday, please Blues.In other news, time and games aplenty to overhaul our loveable 'bours (and others!) with their defeat to the struggling Swans in the early KO.(I can dream, can't I ..?) Colin Hughes 5 Posted 21/01/2017 at 14:45:31 Happy with the line up just hope we show the hunger to win today as so often we don't turn up against these sides near the bottom. As for Swansea, another team that has no problems beating the redshite, 3-1 last season and now score 3 at Anfield to win, a place we haven't scored three at since the sixties despite playing there every year. Daniel Lim 7 Posted 21/01/2017 at 14:54:54 With the redshite beaten, if we could win this later, what a start to my week long holiday in Thailand. COYB Darryl Ritchie 8 Posted 21/01/2017 at 15:12:21 Palace on the front foot. Weather the storm, Toffees. Andrew Cunningham 9 Posted 21/01/2017 at 15:29:54 So what's your angle here, David @ 3?Everton have an important game to win today. Let's win this before we start gloating, Ciarán McGlone 10 Posted 21/01/2017 at 15:33:41 Slow and laboured. Ciarán McGlone 12 Posted 21/01/2017 at 16:16:10 Far better second half so far.. some great football. Dave Ganley 13 Posted 21/01/2017 at 16:54:23 Excellent result well done blues. Cracking goal by Coleman, good weekend all round. RS beaten and gained more ground on the mancs, happy days. Dave Lynch 14 Posted 21/01/2017 at 16:58:28 Hands up those who can see Koeman's philosophy and vision starting to take shape.We battered them today in what was a very tricky fixture, the other lot did us no favours getting beat as it put more emphasis on them needing a result today.Well done blues, great result. Tony Abrahams 15 Posted 21/01/2017 at 16:58:34 One for Patrick, according to radio London, Everton, win their first 3 league matches at the start of a calendar year, for the first time since 2008!Made up for the travelling blue army, simply because there's not many things better than celebrating a late winner, away from home?Another clean sheet for Joel, I'm made up! Ernie Baywood 16 Posted 21/01/2017 at 16:59:59 No complaints with the performance there. Don't think anyone particularly stood out – was just a good solid team effort. That's decent praise considering the number of youngsters in the team. Seamus battled all game against Schlupp's pace. No coincidence he finally found space when Schlupp tried to con the referee into stopping the game. Joel – looking like a Premier League keeper!Lookman's a bit of a live-wire. Despite him scoring last week that's the first we've really seen of him. Really like the look of him. James Welford 17 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:00:02 I really enjoyed that match. Even if it had ended 0-0 it was a good entertaining game of old style English football. What an atmosphere at Selhurst Park, respect to the Eagles fans.Thought Barkley and Robles were both really good. Good team spirit shown. Think Koeman is getting to the squad now ... we're going places!!!!And Seamus... he's the best right wing-back in the league. Colin Hughes 18 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:01:31 We are only 9 points behind the RS now and they play Chelsea next.If only we wouldn't have lost that derby match so late on they may have been caught. James Flynn 19 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:01:45 Can't see Robles making way. That's 2 games Stek was available and Robles got the call. He's really playing well.Now come on Tottenham! Joe Foster 20 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:02:12 We played great. Hennessey saved them from a proper beating. Jeff Armstrong 21 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:02:20 Decent performance, great save from Robles from Dann header, great late goal, pity Rooney slightly spoilt the day! Shame about a blank weekend next week, momentum and all that.. David Morgan 22 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:02:46 Crystal Palace are horrible on that tight pitch. We defended really well and Robles was excellent, a different type of performance today but the same 3 points is all that matters. Holgate, Barkley, Robles, and Coleman my top four today. Only criticism was we seemed to lack the numbers around the box when attacking until the last 15 minutes or so. Tony Hill 23 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:04:48 A really important result. We look solid, Robles may just be starting to develop into a serious keeper and Barkley is great to watch at the moment. Very pleasing all round. Paul Mackie 24 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:05:12 Solid if unspectacular first half, followed by an excellent second half. Once again Coleman crops up with a winner. Shame Man U got an equaliser, but we're closing that gap to the top 6. James Byrne 25 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:05:41 Well done Everton FC and made up for the traveling faithful; brilliant support as always.The new kids are looking awesome and the mixture of old and young is taking shape. Lookman looks a fantastic signing.It was good to see Schneiderlin screaming at the Ref towards the end after he got a foul against him. That's the type of winning spirit and mentality I think we've missed in this team. Brent Stephens 26 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:05:47 No weaknesses in the side today. Well done... 5 behind Man Utd and 9 behind Liverpool. The season's not over? Craig Fletcher 27 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:06:23 Most impressed with our defence - knowing what to expect (shed loads of long balls to Benteke) and dealing with it are two completely different matters, and the fact that Joel only really had to make one save all game towards the end shows how well we coped with it.In spite of the size difference, I thought Holgate defended brilliantly v Benteke.Our attack was slow and laboured at times, but we never stopped probing their defence and on balance it was a fully-deserved win. Patrick Murphy 28 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:06:30 Tony (15) I had a quick glance and it was in 2007-08 when we beat Boro away 2-0, Man City home 1-0 and Wigan away 2-1. We lost in the FA Cup at home to Oldham 0-1 and lost both legs of the LC Semi against Chelsea. The mini winning streak came to an end when Spurs gained a goalless draw at Goodison.Robles making that save from Benteke helped us to win the game today well done him. Brent Stephens 29 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:07:42 Dave, my hand is up. Mike Green 30 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:08:06 Colin #18 - we could still catch them, stranger things could happen. We've got to win at Anfield to stand a chance though . Michael Lynch 31 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:09:29 Davies looked the part again, as did Holgate. And with Barkley looking more like the player we thought he'd become, and little Lookman giving a cameo of what could be a very exciting Everton career, it's all good. And we've got a goalie! Brent Stephens 32 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:10:29 I never say this but looking at the next few fixtures I'm getting a little bit interested. Gavin Johnson 33 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:11:37 Great result. I wouldn't have criticised them too much, had we drawn. We played some great football in the 2nd half. Luckily we got the goal we deserved.Lookman looked very good coming off the bench and for Koeman to praise him means we have signed an exceptional talent. Koeman doesn't strike me as a manager who will give praise unless it's deserved. I'm very positive about the future with an Everton team featuring Lookman, Davies, Holgate and Barkley, and perhaps the biggest thing to be happy about is that we don't need to worry about the so called "bigger" sides stealing them. We are a big side in the making. Chris Williams 34 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:12:13 An ugly win and a nice 3 points. Getting closer to top 6 inexorably.Stoke away next. Big game now.Well done Wayne Rooney. Colin Glassar 35 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:14:15 Sounds like a great game. I just hope the board don't use this little run as an excuse not to further strengthen the squad. Koeman has said he still wants 1-2 more players. COYB!!! Mike Powell 36 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:16:10 Barkley and Robles outstanding today both joint MotM. Hard fought victory but that proves we're on the way back. Sorry, don't give a fuck about Rooney Ciarán McGlone 37 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:17:32 Barkley looks so much better without Barry. MotM for his second-half performance. Brent Stephens 38 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:18:32 Chris, not sure I'd call that ugly. Sat back all game and nicking one I'd say is ugly. But we had most possession, territory, shots (and goals!) and played some good football. Mick Davies 39 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:18:35 Chris @ 34, are you a Man Utd fan? Mike Hughes 40 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:19:14 Singing the Blues tonight.Looking forward to MotD yet again.It's a real shame we're out of the cups but the future definitely looking brighter (in the Premier League) since that depressing Merseyside derby.Let's hope for more and more weekends like this.Fear the Mighty Blues. Phil Jeffries 41 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:19:41 Massive change in Robles. Rather than European style flapping and punching crosses, he is now commanding his box and demanding confidence from his defenders. Holgate was also brilliant today when up against the man mountain Benteke. We got stuck in, earned the right to play and created chances. Great pass from Davies and top top finish from Coleman. I've never felt more like singing the blues... John Pierce 42 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:23:32 Very little ugliness in that game from Everton, hard fought yes, but first dominant performance of the season. Midfield was a cut above the rest of what was a very decent performance. I may not think much of Koeman, but always happy to credit the fella where merited. Simplicity Ronald. No changes - no issue, same formation - suits us best stick to it, changes were logical and well timed. Couldn't ask for more there. Nice one. Some great features of today, Holgate was exemplary after his card, mature effort. Ketwig Kaiser was just sweet as, knows when to play, when to dribble and when to foul. Ross carried the ball, committed players and was unlucky not to score, and was battered at the end. Rom did so much more than his usual, great to see, link up play by his own patchy standards was good. Are we seeing a Rom motivated by better players around him? Every player played in the right position. Tells me everything that. UTFT! Colin Glassar 43 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:24:32 It feels like Koeman, and his backroom staff, are starting to get the team to play like they want Jay Wood 44 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:25:33 Slowly, slowly, the tanker is turning.In the last 7 games of tricky fixtures that's 5 wins, a draw and a single late defeat to the 'poo - 16 points from a possible 21.It would have been an injustice if we hadn't won today. Head and shoulders the better team. Only Hennesy their keeper kept them in it.The back 3 and 2 wing backs pushed forward is looking more solid after its brutally exposed baptism in the mauling at Chelski.Holgate looks a player with an edge to him. Williams sits comfortably in the centre and today, I thought Funes Mori, in addition to his rock solid defending, looked as comfortable with his passing and distribution as I've seen him to date in a blue shirt. And behind them, Robles now TOTALLY dominates his area. He made a vital save at 0-0 also.Baines and Coleman, without being extraordinary, are returning to the top drawer quality we have seen from them in the past. The Barry-Davies axis dovetailed beautifully today ... remind me again: Davies is 18, right? What an eye he has for a pass, keeping it simple, but always being on the front foot.Ross had an immense game. Don't focus on the 1-2 stray passes. Focus on his ball retention in tight situations. How he can turn and run at a player. The incisiveness of his (good) passing. His shooting ability with either foot. But for Hennesy he could have got a couple today.Mirallas and Lukaku looked good together, as did young Lookman when he came on. He is a little tiger for the opposition player in possession and he 'sees' the give and goes and returns. Very impressive.Schneiderlin evidently needs more game time, but otherwise, very solid all round.We have some momentum now. Let's see where it can take us.Chuffed! David Price 45 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:25:52 I am with Gavin (#33) would not have been to critical of the display even with a draw. Excellent football today. Subs making a difference. We never stopped today and did not revert to hoof ball.Magnificent goal to win it. Defence superb and Joel brilliant. Proper team shape and pattern taking place. Plenty to build on. Well played Everton. Jimmy Salt 46 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:25:54 Davis played well again today but Holgate at the back is going under the radar.Long may it continue we need to keep this one. John Pierce 47 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:26:32 #10 for slow and labouring see controlled and probing. James Flynn 48 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:27:28 And to mention, during the tightest part of the game we had 5 players 23 and under out there. 2 games in a row, 3 teenagers. Dermot Byrne 49 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:28:36 Maybe our manager does know what he is doing. Looks like it to me! Anto Byrne 50 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:33:10 I'm VERY HAPPY that we are playing so well and the confidence is growing in the team. Ross Barkley was outstanding, that diamond is becoming more polished with each game. I will sleep well tonight. Tony Abrahams 51 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:33:15 Not for long Jimmy46, you can't keep good players, under the radar for long, and this Mason Holgate, looks much better, than good! David Price 52 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:36:05 Stop it Dermot !!! Paul Thompson 53 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:36:06 Well on top most of the game I'd say determined rather than ugly win. We have finally banished the Martinez leaky defence where no matter if you scored you were constantly on edge about holding the lead. With Robles improving, we have a solid foundation of more expansive football. Lookman is a great sub to bring on with his quick feet and pace. Steavey Buckley 54 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:37:26 The Palace - Everton game was more about 3 points than the performance, because Everton laboured to break down the opposition, while Lukaku had to struggle to get some sort of support. The Everton midfielders did not break too often into the Palace penalty area, and showed why Everton need 2 of their players in Schlupp and Remy, because Everton need someone up front to carve openings for Lukaku. Also, a left back or wing back like Schlupp who has power and pace in abundance in attack or defence; sadly, Baines cannot offer anymore. Brent Stephens 55 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:37:37 Jay #44 a sound summary. Certainly agree about Ross. Geoff Evans 56 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:37:54 After the euphoria of last week it was important that we at least picked up a point from this one. Three points is fantastic, clean sheet a bonus. Another brick in the wall. One step at a time. COYB.ps: Let's have some more signings next week to back the manager and show the club's intent. Brent Stephens 57 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:39:54 Odds on Holgate, Davies and Lookman in the grown-ups England squad within the next 12 months? Terry Underwood 58 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:40:26 All together now .. "Oh I never felt more like singing the blues" etc . happy days John Hammond 59 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:40:41 I missed chunks of the first half but Holgate was immense today. The new formation seems to suit Barkley and the kids have breathed life into this team. All of a sudden everyone is playing better. I thought it could end up being one of those days but in the end we fully deserved the victory. Oh and what a save from Robles.The next 4 games are so important before the Spurs game. I think we're more than capable of getting 10 points. COYB! David Price 60 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:40:59 Not sure we laboured but must admit there was times were we didn't have enough bodies in the box for some cut backs. Tom can add that to his game I'm sure ala Lampard. Mike Green 61 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:41:55 John #42 - 'Ketwig Kaiser' - that signing went under the radar! :)Maybe the improvement in Robles could be something to do with goalkeeping coach Lodewijks ..?Jay Wood #44 is spot on. Our recent form - certainly result wise is starting the look pretty mean. We've only conceded 4 goals in the last 7 League Games - which when you consider three of those fixtures (albeit at home) were Arsenal, City and Liverpool. Had we not dropped careless points to Hull and Liverpool we'd be right in the hunt for Europe.For once the cliche of "concentrating on the league" could actually bear fruit. All the teams above us have other commitments, we (sad to say) have none and the silver lining is that could really make a difference over the next few weeks. Lets make hay while the sun shines - next up Stoke (tricky), Bournemouth (fancy us), Boro away (tricky) and Sunderland at home (3 points?) will tell us if we're Top 6 contenders or also rans. Brian Furey 62 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:44:14 Had a feeling we would score in the second half and that's Coleman with his 4th this season now, 2nd top scorer.With RS losing and Man Utd drawing it seems a good day all round. West Brom still on our coat tails though.Had we beaten Hull I think that would have been 5 league wins in a row but 13 from 15 points is still a good return compared to our form before Arsenal. Kieran Kinsella 63 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:44:21 Two games in a row now we've seen Davies make a real difference in the last 20 minutes. He does well all game BUT his boundless energy continues when everyone else does s getting knackered so he can be dangerous at the end of the game.Holgate seems a bit mouthy. Not sure if that's a sign of confidence or immaturity but he talks back to the ref a lot. He let Benteke get away from him in the air a few times but his a lot smaller so it was a miss match. Overall though he is a good player.One thing we lacked was a bit of follow up in the box. Several times Hennessy dropped the ball and no one was there to nick it. A Cahill type could've scored. Barkley needs to add that hunger to his game. Patrick Murphy 64 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:46:28 Looking back at the game, Everton really should have had it wrapped up in the first-half but for their Keeper making unbelievable saves from Mirallas and Funes Mori. The second period was tougher to watch because Palace sat even deeper and gave little or no space, however, Seamus should have looked to put the ball in the box quicker at times. It wasn't always an easy watch, but that's often the way when you're hoping to score and not concede at a difficult place such as Selhurst Park. The main thing I took from the game is there is a lot more to come from this Everton side and winning games can only help their confidence and then we might see a more expansive pattern of play. Three points is all that matters at the minute and we should enjoy every win as much as possible. John Pierce 65 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:46:43 Mike Green, Barry Cass of ToffeeTv should take the credit there, but I think he looks more like Fozzy bear myself. Patrick Murphy 66 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:50:12 For those who may not have seen any of the game! Highlights Christy Ring 67 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:50:39 Great win, the younger players Holgate, Davies, Lookman when he came on really good, and Barkley outstanding. Robles a lot more confident, as for Seamus, I'd make him captain, Barry hasn't the pace anymore. John Graham 68 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:51:42 Great result. Always good to put in a dominating away performance. Koeman seems to be getting lots more from Barkley now who seems to understand his responsibilities more each game and still showing the skill to cause lots of problems. I must admit he looks a lot fitter now too.Great performance and assist from Davies today and Robles surprises more and more every game.COYB Steavey Buckley 69 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:54:54 Dave (60) laboured in terms of breaking down the opposition inside their penalty area. Crosses and balls into their box were being cut out. That was giving Palace the confidence to hold out until the final whistle until Davies released Coleman with a peach of a ball who smacked it passed their goalie. A special mention must go to Robles, who is now one of the premier league's best for his single mindness to be Everton's no.1 after being aggrieved when over looked at the beginning of the season. His outstanding performance today gives both fans and players the confidence he can prevent them from going in, and all Everton have to do, is put them in, to win. Something that has not happened for quite awhile. Andrew Presly 71 Posted 21/01/2017 at 17:56:00 Loved how we kept going and finally got the goal we deserved when Schlupp went down with cramp despite the boos of the home fans. Right thing to do and the first signs of a ruthless, winning mentality after so many years of the amateurish, timid, making up the numbers mentality from managers like Moyes and Martinez and players like Neville and Jagielka.Lovely to see! Peter McHugh 73 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:01:40 Kieran (#63),I agree entirely Davies always better second half because of his energy and positive attitude. I'm not trying to blame everything on Martinez but to me a big difference from last season is we didn't stop or kick the ball out today and quite right to their full back was off the pitch and could get treatment there if he wanted. Last season we would have kicked that out. David Price 74 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:01:46 Agree Steavey, just needed one of the first half efforts to go in and we may have run away with the game. Good to see how strong we were for 90 minutes again Colin Hughes 75 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:02:42 Kopite on Radio Merseyside phone in "it's hard to break walls down, you know", referring to Swansea of course, you couldn't make it up. Mike Green 76 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:04:19 Just watched Klopp interview - in one word "weary". I'll bet big Ron's is going to be very bright eyed and bushy tailed in comparison. What a nice feeling to be looking forward to MOTD two weeks on the trot! :) Eddie Dunn 77 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:08:05 A very solid performance, and with a bit of luck we could have been 3 up by halftime. One thing we could work on is following up shots in case the keeper spills the ball. Hennessy fumbled it a few times with no toffees on hand. I really enjoyed the control we showed. Fat Sam reverted to hoofball in desperation, but it would have been unjust had they nicked on back. Jay Wood 78 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:08:14 To reinforce the turn around in fortunes:4 clean sheets in the last 5 league games - home to the Saints and Citteh, away to Leicester, Hull (2 conceded) and now Palace. All with Robles in goal.Solid! Steavey Buckley 79 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:10:24 Dave, it was so frustrating watching the game, especially in the second half when Everton did not create enough in Palace's last third, with the possibility of them sneaking a win, as Everton stroked the ball about in front of them. But when their best player lay injured it was though fortune had looked kindly on the blues, and Coleman was able to get into the box unopposed and smacked that beauty pass the goalie. Mike Green 80 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:11:55 Just watched Ron he's looks right on it now, the bit firmly between his teeth. Come on you Blueboys! :) John Pierce 81 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:15:44 Steavey, it's not fortune when you keep attacking down the side the player is absent from. Shrewd, tactical and calculated. Fuck you're right, Everton don't do that! Coleman looked offside, and I swear he shanked it. Julian Exshaw 82 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:19:08 I was as sick as the proverbial parrot 2 weeks ago when we went so tamely out of the FA Cup. Last week ignited the fire again though and this win today was impressive, especially the football in the second half. I was very unsure about what Koeman was trying to do, above all in awful November but as previous posts have mentioned, this is starting to take shape. I love the right side, with Coleman further up. Funes Mori looks a lot better in this new system and Holgate is class. Lookman looks a real prospect and Barks is becoming more consistent. I hope it's not a false dawn, we've had enough of these but it's starting to look promising. Top 6 may not be beyond us yet. Jay Harris 83 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:24:25 Great win against a stubborn potential banana skin of a team. Thought Robles and Barkley really stood out and the new kid looks very special.The only thing I can't understand was Jags coming on last few minutes. Was it tactical, time wasting or Jags farewell game? Mark Daley 84 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:27:37 Really gutted for the RS, losing at Anfield while we get 3 away. John Daley's wife will be rummaging through the lingerie drawer again tonight. Mike Green 85 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:29:47 Bit of fuss being made about stopping game for Schlupp by Big Sam - haven't seen it but a) if a player gets cramp, that's not an injury it's fitness so no reason for us to stop and b) if he was off the pitch and moved onto the pitch to try and force stoppage then that's gamesmanship - which is fine - but two can play at that game. Play on Blues! Ciarán McGlone 86 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:33:03 He rolled back on Mike.Suck it up Denis Richardson 87 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:33:08 Must be one of the first times I've read a thread and cannot remember seeing anything negative.Good solid performance today to take the points home. Was a late winner but deserved imo. Three league wins and three clean sheets on the trot. Things definitely looking up.Still 16 games to go, loads of points to play for. Top 6 is by no means out of reach (even top 4 if dreaming a bit). Will be tough to catch the teams above us but not impossible. No team is going to win all their remaining games so just a question of digging in, one game at a time.Gana also back in 2 weeks and we may still get a new player or two in before the transfer window shuts.We are finally looking SOLID! Davies and Holgate improving week by week. Looks like the whole squad is up for it as they've seen the manager won't accept complacency or average players. David Donnellan 88 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:33:49 Great performance today, the goal always looked like it would come eventually. Last on motd I guess tonight, the show will probably be a wankfest over Rooney breaking Charlton's record! Never mind onwards & upwards! COYB! Steavey Buckley 89 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:38:28 John, of all the players Palace did not want injured when Coleman scored was Schlupp, who had matched Coleman throughout the match. Also, on another day, the ref. would have blown for the match to be stopped for Schlupp to be given treatment, and their sub. allowed on. If that incident had not occurred the game would have ended 0:0 because as the second half wore on, Everton looked less likely to score. Patrick Murphy 90 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:42:45 Steavey Read the result tomorrow in the papers and it will remain Palace 0 Everton 1 and since when has cramp been the cause for an official to stop the game? For too many decades Everton have bemoaned their own luck or lack of it when they have lost or drawn a game, meanwhile the other 'winning' teams have pinched points in the dying embers of matches which they may or may not have deserved. I'm quite enjoying the result of today's game and I hope we have many more to 'celebrate' in the coming weeks and months. Mike Green 91 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:43:11 City 1-0 up. Patrick Murphy 92 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:43:57 Make that 2-0 Mike Ciarán McGlone 93 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:44:38 He cheated by rolling back on the pitch. Frankly I'd ban him.Hahahahahahaha Mike Green 94 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:50:20 Absolutely right, Patrick (#90) when I think of points won from unjust penalties and "dive for cover" free-kicks from outside of the box that have buoyed the results of a certain club it means nothing when you look at the history books Rothman's just reads what the result was and the narrative is lost. I'm not suggesting we become a team of cheats but I think Koeman is going to drill a brand of ruthlessness into the team that we haven't seen for maybe 30 years. Mike Green 95 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:51:44 Interesting Patrick! Well if City can beat Spurs 2-0...and we can beat City 4-0 .. John Pierce 96 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:54:02 Steavey, I'll match you your 'if' and raise you with on another day we'd have scored four based on the chances created and Schlupp could have scored a hat trick and we'd still have won. Idle speculation in both cases, we won with a performance that merited a victory. Can't say fairer than that? Steavey Buckley 97 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:55:34 Patrick, I thought the situation with Schlupp was quite bizarre, as I hoped that the passage of play would not be stopped. For a start, the physio was on the pitch without the referee's permission, even though the player rolled back on to the pitch when he was off it, when he should have received treatment there and not on the pitch. But I am quite sure, in another match, the ref would have blown for the physio to remain on the pitch and the Palace sub allowed on. MotD will have a field day with this incident, and Big Sam will make it known how hard done they have been. Mike Green 98 Posted 21/01/2017 at 18:57:29 2-1 now Patrick and Spurs are 22/1 to win game with 20+ minutes to go - got to be worth a few quid...? I've done £15 - Come on you Lilywhites! Mick Davies 99 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:00:30 Mike @ 95, I don't think Stones is playing . . . . watching Gethin Jones for Barnsley against Leeds, at 21, you'd think he'd have made it into the side or left permanently by now Patrick Murphy 100 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:05:52 Mike 98 I was going to call you an ambitious fool but you're in with a chance now. Graham Mockford 101 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:06:07 I love Seamus Coleman. From the day he came on against Spurs and his non-stop energy and commitment saved the game, he has been my favourite player.He's a throwback from the modern footballer. You can't imagine he arrives at the ground wearing stupid fucking headphones. He even runs in the most uncool way, like that kid that made you laugh at school.He should be the natural successor as captain. A player that wears his heart on his sleeve. Sixty grand, sixty grand Kieran Kinsella 102 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:06:38 I think if the Schlupp thing was the other way around we'd be unhappy. But any sympathy I had went out the window when he rolled back onto the pitch. If someone's down in a critical area or has a head injury then OK stop play. If someone is off the pitch then no need to stop the game. Dermot Byrne 103 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:08:29 Should be captain for spirit. Capts don't do tactics now Clive Mitchell 104 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:09:02 Well done. Wasn't at the match today, but reports suggest we played very well in tough circumstances. Got to give lots of credit to the team and the manager. Apparently our 23-year-old MotM only has just over a year left on his contract. Must be our top priority to sort that. Sorry, what was that Ronald? John Charles 105 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:13:18 Just in from game.I've een a big critic of Koeman but we are beginning to look the part. Good strong display today with Barkley particularly good. We got the win we deserved as we were far the better team. Was good to see an Everton side play on when an opposition player goes down - is about time.Coyb Gordon Roberts 107 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:17:19 The squad are fitter now that the manager and his coaching staff have pushed the players harder.There's more quality in the squad, but I'm really hoping Koeman buys a quality centre back, another striker/winger option and a replacement left back for Baines. COYB John Parker 108 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:24:16 The only good decision today from the referee was to play on when their player was down, he gave Palace every 50/50 and that stopped our momentum, by far the better team, just a few tweaks required.Well done, Ross. MotM in my opinion. You frustrate at times but never shy away from the ball and by far the best close control in the team. Just need to poach a few goals and your game is right up there. Eddie Dunn 109 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:28:36 Some Palace fan was on 606 moaning that we didn't put the ball out for Schlupp. What a tit! An Evertonian came on to put him straight. Big Sam is such a wanker, imagine if we had Baines with cramp, what would Jabba be telling his right winger? Mike Green 110 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:30:52 Oooooo ..worth a punt eh Patrick.Good news is every team above us that played dropped points today which is a very good day at the office, nice way to go into our self enforced break if nothing else!COYB :) Paul Nicholls 111 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:30:56 Been too nice for too long. Let's be horrible bastards. Ian McDowell 114 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:38:02 Big Fat Sam:"I feel the referee should have blown the whistle. Our player was injured and that's a decision the referee should have made. I don't think it's the responsibility of the players." Why should the we have kicked the ball out? Why should the ref have blown the whistle?Have a look at the rules, you bent bastard.Get in you blues John Pierce 115 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:39:49 So if your 'injured' player can heave himself onto the pitch then perhaps he's not very injured? If that's the case he's definitely not seriously injured and the referee has no need to stop the game! Mick Davies 116 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:40:50 'Simon' Coleman strikes again Kim Vivian 117 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:42:38 Good set of results today for what it's worth. RS, Spurs and both Mancs dropped points. Chelsea to play but are out of sight and good luck to them I quite like Conte. Getting in the mix does not seem such an impossibility if we can keep this up. Aside I hope our boys were watching City to see the benefits of following shots in to look for a spilled ball from the GK which we do not seem very good at! Dennis Stevens 118 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:45:44 We're only 10 points off 2nd place! Mike Green 119 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:47:04 Ian #114 - someone should point out to Sam that just because the ref didn't blow doesn't mean he didn't make a decision. He did make a decision - he decided not to blow!Play On! :D John Pierce 120 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:55:12 Note the same thing happened in the Bournemouth Watford game. Player down outside the Watford area not seriously injured. Play on Bournemouth score. Oh Cleverley got an assist today, straight from a corner to Deeney. 👀 Mike Green 121 Posted 21/01/2017 at 19:57:51 Dennis (#118) let's assume Arsenal win tomorrow, that puts us 9 points off Champions League with some very good teams between us and that berth. But all you can do is win your games. We've still got Chelsea, Tottenham, Liverpool, United and Arsenal to play all away from home unfortunately apart from Chelsea so I imagine we're going to be put firmly in our place through those fixtures but you never know. Could we end our horrendous record away at Arsenal on the last game of the season to achieve something special? Doubtful but its amazing what a couple of wins can do! Ian Riley 122 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:07:09 Top four here we come!Four more points and we are safe!Koeman is gaining the respect of the players. Play well or else. A top manager. Give him another three to five players by the start of next season and top four coming. Today was deserved. To only get a point would have been an injustice. Mike Green 123 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:08:19 Mick #116 - just seen it - "Simon Coleman"!!!! Unbelievable :DJohn #65 - all these new players! That's two now that are new to me! Always the last to know :) Jay Wood 124 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:11:15 Mike @121And the Arse have to play away to Chelski, Spuds and the 'poo, home to City, Manure and us.City away to the Arse, Chelski and Spuds, home to Manure and the 'poo.Manure away to the Arse, City and Spurs, home to Chelski and us.No need to add Chelski, Spuds and the 'poo.Just making the point all top 7 teams have challenging fixtures remaining.Right now, Everton has a 'benevolent' run of fixtures coming up.So of course, this is where we blow it! Jay Wood 125 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:11:15 Mike @121And the Arse have to play away to Chelski, Spuds and the 'poo, home to City, Manure and us.City away to the Arse, Chelski and Spuds, home to Manure and the 'poo.Manure away to the Arse, City and Spurs, home to Chelski and us.No need to add Chelski, Spuds and the 'poo.Just making the point all top 7 teams have challenging fixtures remaining.Right now, Everton has a 'benevolent' run of fixtures coming up.So of course, this is where we blow it! Colin Glassar 126 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:14:21 You all know right it's only the media who can predict in December who their top 6 are going to be? We all fall into the trap of believing them when they tell us the top 6 is a closed shop and a Leicester abnormality will never ever, ever happen again.I'm not going to predict where we will finish but that lot aren't going to tell me. Sam the computer says we will finish 7th on 56 points. Well he can go and fuck off as well. Christy Ring 127 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:18:13 I'd like to see RK bring in a left back, and Charlie Taylor of Leeds is out of contract in the summer, so £7m might tempt them. Baines has no competition, and was a bit slow on crosses again today. Mick Davies 128 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:21:02 Mike @ 123, he's got that many fiddles going, he hasn't got time to spend on football matters - I mean, the lad's only been playing at the top level for 5/6 years lol Colin Malone 129 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:35:22 Sorry to spoil the party but we have to defend from the front. Yes I am having a go at Lukaku again. Did not win an aerial ball today, never put their defence under pressure. When he got the ball, it was a one man show, instead of giving the easy pass. Cannot believe the amount of crosses that come in the penalty area and Rom was at the edge of the box, UNBELIEVABLE.Ronald Koeman will make OUR ROSS into the world class player, that we all hope to see. Well done Ross. Class. Mark Morrissey 130 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:36:29 Holgate is quietly going about his business whilst nobody is really talking about him. He's a real talent. More of the same son. Well done to Seamus today. Captain Fantastic Mike Green 131 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:50:26 A good point well made Jay #125I know its down to their recent downturn and "the spell" will kick in again soon but I've got a hunch that the ones to drop out of equation could well be the Reds. I think Chelsea, Spurs and Arsenal will plough on, City have so much quality they'll get their act together so we need to stay on Uniteds tail and see what happens... Dave Abrahams 132 Posted 21/01/2017 at 20:54:59 Patrick (66) thanks for the highlights, made up with win, those highlights are all I've seen of the match, read the performance on the live forum, but you don't really know how we are playing reading that, but felt we had enough chances to win, my heart was in my mouth the last few minutes after we scored, heard the winner on Final Score.Keep it up Blues, on a personal note, which I don't expect many to agree with, if we don't get into the top four, which is possible, I'm not interested in getting into the Europa League next season. Without that we will have a really good chance of making the top four next year, the Europa League is a handicap to that, but I'm jumping ahead anyway. Gary Edwards 133 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:02:45 Christy (127) granted Oviedo & Garbutt don't warrant a place in the current squad but Galloway did little wrong playing LB at the beginning of last season. We also have Antonee Robinson in the ressies and he's something special. Schlupp impressed today, 3 weeks ago Robinson was running past Schlupp (with ball at feet) and completely out-muscling him otherwise. ... save our money / spend on a top class striker or "10". Kristian Boyce 134 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:06:51 Good win, if this was 2 months ago I don't think it would of been the same result. I think the players are getting the system and are finishing out games now. Robles had a great game again and is now showing everyone what he can do. It's been the same with him over the last few years, he needs a stretch of games to show his form. All too often in the past he gets dropped when the number one goalie comes back from injury. I thought Holgate was outstanding, and stood up well against Benteke and Remy. He reminds me a lot of Stones, but he has a better footballing head on him. He knows when to hoof it out and when to pass it. He always does the runs like Stones did and isn't shy to join up in attack. I have a feeling that he might overtake as a player in the next year or so. Stones basically played in the first team from almost day one, being on the receiving end of the coaching of Martinez and Dennis Lawrence (a league 2 defender). Holgate has had Unswoth and Koeman as his guides for the last couple of years. To be honest, Stones never really grew from the player who first came into the team and his deficiencies as clearly on show for City. Joe O'Brien 135 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:15:52 You got to love a 1 nil win away from home in a hard place to go. Barkley looking like he's getting back to good form. Koeman looked a lot brighter in the post match interview. His tactics starting to pay off. Was this the last time we see Jags in our shirt? I'm thinking it could be. Shame but it's for the best. He was a great servant to our team, maybe not so much so recently. Andy Meighan 136 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:16:09 I don't know if anyone else will agree with this as I haven't read most of the posts but I watched the game and I didn't think for one second we were going to lose. I thought we bossed the game from start to finish and if that had have finished 0 0 I'd have been gutted. These last 2 weeks have been brilliant. The talk all week has been of young Tom Davies and rightly but Mason Holgate's contribution has slipped under the radar. That is one old head on young shoulders and again today he was fantastic. That said, so was the whole team What a day. What a week. Sorry Ronnie for doubting you! Darren Hind 137 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:28:33 Just got back from town. The blues are starting to arrive back home and are slaughtering the gobshites with choruses of I never felt more like singing the Blues.Fantastic to see Evertonians making such a racket"Sixty grand, Sixty grand Seamus Coleman, Sixty grand, Sixty grand, I say" Mike Green 138 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:29:04 Talking about post-match interviews Pep's at it again. He's a stroppy little so-and-so, the more they stutter the happier I'll be. What a big baby that bloke is... Dave Abrahams 139 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:38:33 Darren (137) the redshites will not like that, especially The Sky armchair ones, don't know whether to get a taxi into town just to watch and listen to the Blue fans. Duncan McDine 140 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:46:45 Just got home from the game. We battered a very poor Palace side but it felt at times like it wasn't going to be our day. I'll be watching MOTD to see if Coleman was offside (as Honest Sam claimed). The lino was right next to him, so doubt it.The back 3 and Robles were excellent bar a couple of lapses in concentration. Barry was excellent again, and while Davies had a few heavy touches, his desire and agression is fantastic... A future captain down the line IMO. Barkley continued his good form, Baines and Coleman excelled in the freedom of their wingback roles, and the two up top did ok (but weren't quite at the races today if I'm honest). Lookman and Schneiderlin both looked good when they came on.I've never felt more like singin the blues! Andy Crooks 141 Posted 21/01/2017 at 21:50:06 Dave, I have to strongly disagree about your Europa league view. Why do we strive if it is not for great nights under the lights.Also, it gives chances for the young lads, offers them experience. Most of all it gives the chance of an Osman like goal. A memory, a great memory. Tony Abrahams 142 Posted 21/01/2017 at 22:05:25 The great nights under the lights! Arguement over Andy!I haven't travelled to many away games these last couple of years, but I do miss days like today's though Darren. Nothing better than getting off the train at Lime-St, with the sound of EV-ER-TON, reverberating and echoing all around the station, especially when Liverpool have had another bad day! David Edwards 143 Posted 21/01/2017 at 22:16:07 4 points from safety and it's only January 21st - what a great season! ...oh sorry folks the 'plucky underdog'/'mid-table mediocrity' of our board kicked in then I must have a lie down and hope NSNO restores itself to my ambition. Two good results and progress on the pitch performance-wise, but let's see what the transfer window brings and some consistency might take us by Easter. The false expectations of our snake oil merchant have left me damaged and cynical - but maybe the first shoots of growth are showing. Don't let me down, Ronald! The kids are alright! Dave Abrahams 144 Posted 21/01/2017 at 22:18:07 Andy (#141), yes understand your point of view and the majority of Blue fans will agree with you because of the reasons you have stated plus the joy of travelling away to Europe, including my sons and grandsons.However I think we will have a great chance of playing in the main European competition the year after next because we can finish in the top four next year and I am convinced the Europa League is an handicap to that ambition, but it will not be the end of the world if we enter in it next season.I think we are on the way up no matter where we finish this season. Ashley Roberts 145 Posted 21/01/2017 at 22:29:40 A good performance away from home and if it was not for the Palace keeper, the score would have been higher. I think big Nev told us to buy Hennessy some time ago but saying that I thought Robles commanded his box really well today. For me, Davies who reminds me a lot of the great Peter Reid while doing his job so well also creates more space for Ross and that is why he is playing much better. Ghana an Barry are just to defensive for my liking and I think Davies provides so much more going forward. I also thought Barry was good for 60 minutes and maybe that is how we have to use him for the rest of the season. To be honest after the last 2 games I do not see a place in the starting 11 for either Gana or Schneiderlin. Look an also looked good when he came on. We have some other good young players in the U23s maybe we should give them a chance? The young Man Utd team with Beckham and co set Ferguson on to glory maybe our youngsters who want to play well and for the team and not just the money could do it. The youngsters are certainly carrying the day at the moment!!! Alexander Murphy 146 Posted 21/01/2017 at 22:30:59 MotD about to kick off... Liverpool v Swansea first?Clearly, our terrific, deserved, dominant win will be shown as the final credits roll. Somehow tonight I can handle that. Jay Griffiths 147 Posted 21/01/2017 at 22:46:33 Haven't read the above comments yet. Just back from Selhurst. Quick observations. Shocking journey there and back, as usual. Shocking view, as usual. Shocking ground. But hey, they've put new bits in the bogs! And a lick of paint.Holgate is nails. I truly, at this moment wouldn't swap him for Stones.Funes Mori, for the first time impressed me by being aggressive.Williams is getting better every game. There's a shape forming out of the gloom.Great day football wise. They lose, we win. Class.One sour note, almost every fan stayed to the end. Almost all the Everton players and subs, came past the centre circle to thank and applaud the fans. One exception, looking sullen and Moody he trudged off to the corner alone and disappeared into the changies. I know we want players in his position to be selfish and driven during the game but don't be a prick afterwards, especially the effort that goes into getting to that ground for us all. That apart, its our Monday to enjoy in work. Jay Wood 148 Posted 21/01/2017 at 22:47:46 Dave @ 144.I follow the flow of your thinking, but I'm with Andy on this one.As we are only too aware, there are no guarantees ever in football. I don't think you can 'cherry pick' your moment or opportunities, as you suggest, in the belief (possibly forlorn) that without the distraction of the Europa League, we can gate crash the CL cartel NEXT season.If only it worked like that ...The Europa League carries many benefits, not just negatives. It IS European football. That alone can attract a better quality of footballer to the club whilst helping to retain our own talent.It gives the club, the players and the manager 'practice' and preparation in playing both domestic and continental football alternatively in an extended fixture list, ahead of (hopefully!) qualifying for the CL, rather than entering that competition 'cold.'And European away days are such a great party for the faithful! Everton supporters away European trips are the stuff of legends!So for me, the aim should be European football EVERY year, regardless of whether it is the EL or CL. Such consistent exposure on the international stage, rather than solely the domestic front, also brings a further benefit in a raised profile for the club, which in turn attracts more followers, a better quality of diverse sponsors and investors, which consequently helps fund better players and club facilities.In effect, a virtuous circle and upward spiral of continual improvement. Paul Smith 149 Posted 21/01/2017 at 23:55:35 Steve Buckley I don't usually have a pop on this forum at other posters but how can you take away from a good performance by suggesting we were fortunate? It was an excellent performance and Schlupp cheated, got caught and was duly punished with an Everton goal. Baffled me by your statements. David Israel 150 Posted 21/01/2017 at 23:57:42 I lived in Upper Norwood - that's not far from Selhurst Park; in fact my tube station was Crystal Palace - for a few years, a long time ago. Once in a while, I used to drop in, to watch Palace trying to play football (as a matter of fact, I watched the famous Don Rogers scoring the only goal on his debut, against, yes... you've guessed it). I hadn't been back, but today I made that journey down memory lane for the sake of the Blues. I was quite impressed by the fighting spirit throughout the game and I think we had an excellent second half. I was particularly impressed with Barkley, Holgate and, yes, Robles, the new George Wood (or is it Andy Rankin?).Of course this recent run has us all looking on the bright side of life, and while a swallow does not a summer make, I definitely think I can see a whole flock of them on the horizon.COYB! Mike Green 151 Posted 21/01/2017 at 00:05:53 Jay #148 and Dave #144 - this debate was pretty hot the other day and I've firmly been in the same camp as Dave Abrahams for years. I really cant stand the Europa League to be honest.Jay - you do put a great counter argument forward though.I guess the truth is both arguments are equally valid. The Europa League is (I believe) a massive handicap on teams but also it clearly brings many opportunities, summed up very eloquently by Jay.Do I think we could get Top 4 next year? Probably not. So - if not, what the hell, lets go for the Europa League and all the things that we might get out of it - whether that be a beer at a bar in a town 500 miles away you would never have been to and will never go to again, having a story to tell for the next twenty years or at its best seeing us lift European silverware. I guess you've got to start somewhere - and if we cant handle the Europa League the Champions League will have us for breakfast so lets do the best we can and take on whatever our performances grant us. (Part of the reason I feel the need to change my tune is to be honest I think we're going to do it so I better get used to it...)I like virtuous circles Jay, if the Europa League is part of one then I guess we better get on it. Steavey Buckley 152 Posted 22/01/2017 at 00:11:03 Paul, normally, when a ball goes out of play, a referee normally allows for a sub to be sent on. In this game, he did not, which delighted me. Yet, it would have been better if Everton had scored earlier to make it a more open game. Instead Palace sat back and made it difficult to find a way through them. I thought Baines did not offer enough getting forward, and one of the major reasons Everton were reliant on Coleman, who was having a great tussel with Schlupp. Until that great moment when he was not there, and Coleman scored a beauty. Tony Draper 153 Posted 22/01/2017 at 00:26:10 Watching the stream live today, Schlupp FEIGNED injury. Phoney. Utter phoney.Referees have no obligation to halt play for any injury for which there is no immediate danger.Cramp is NOT even an injury any more than being out of breath, not being as quick/good in the air/tall as the player opposite you or "feeling knackered", is it ?But, even IF injured, crawling back onto the pitch to halt play IS outright cheating. The ONLY reason to resort to this is fear, to run down the clock because you and your team and your manager FEAR the opposition.It overlooks a very simple factor.Leaving your team with 10 v 11 is NOT an advantage ! David Israel 154 Posted 22/01/2017 at 00:42:51 Jay #148, Mike # 151 and Dave #144, let's not forget that the Europa League winners now go straight into the Champions League. So, that's another reason for being positive about playing in that competition.Having said that, I do hope it takes its toll on Man Utd. David Price 155 Posted 22/01/2017 at 00:48:15 Steavey, don't think the ball went out of play when he went down with cramp.I'm with you as is everyone else, play goes on unless a head injury. I bet no-one is in Saturday night's A&E with cramp tonight.Blues'did nothing wrong. Sam is just desperate. Brian Porter 156 Posted 22/01/2017 at 06:55:59 Congratulations to the team today for what I describe as a solid, all-round TEAM performance. No slackers, full on effort from everyone and a satisfying three points. I have to give credit to Koeman for not changing a winning team. Individually, the team could really be seen to be playing for each other rather than for themselves. A couple of points, Funes Mori's control before he unleashed the shot that Hennessy saved belied his position as a centre back, any other day that would have been a certain goal. Great skill and execution and his reaction when the keeper saved it showed how much he cares about doing his best for the team. Joel Robles is now looking the real deal, commanding his area, shot stopping, almost non stop talking to his defence (being an ex-goalkeeper I notice these things), and generally instilling confidence in those around him. Above all he looks confident and comfortable in there and that kind of 'aura' emanating from a keeper tends to permeate the entire team, something for example, importantly lacking at Man City with Bravo in goal and their defenders lacking that security a good keeper brings to the team. Robles should have done enough to secure the #1 position and will surely get even better with regular game time. Holgate and Davies both look like they've been playing first team football for years, what a difference they've made to the team. I could go on, but I won't, for fear of getting boring. I just hope Koeman doesn't start tinkering too much in the upcoming games. He's found a great starting eleven and injuries aside, there should be no reason to make dramatic changes, as this team has shown itself capable of winning in different circumstances over the last two games, both of which could been extreme banana skin type matches for us. Stick with it, Ronald. Thomas Lennon 157 Posted 22/01/2017 at 08:37:30 It's got to be a yes to Europa. 1. We need a squad that can cope and qualification is a good reason to buy the right players who are more likely to come. 'CL lite' is a good developing ground. 2. We will need to build up Uefa ranking points to increase the chance of a seeding once in Champions League.Everton FC need to be in Europe to progress. As soon as possible. Dave Abrahams 158 Posted 22/01/2017 at 09:04:37 Thomas (157), yes all good points for those who want Everton in the Europa League next season, as I said I expected to be in the minority over this, but maybe I'm thinking Everton are going to be better sooner than some of you.Just consider the season Chelsea and Liverpool are having, Chelsea can always buy but their season is being helped by not being in Europe now, same as Them, we can be going for that fourth spot next season without the definite handicap of the Europa League, but that is my opinion. Tony Abrahams 159 Posted 22/01/2017 at 09:31:50 I understand you Dave, but Europe, has got to be the aim now? I stopped going to all the away games during Martinez, second season, because it was obvious to me the man was more concerned with Europe, than the league, that year, and this started the demise in his managerial reign. for me.I think Koeman, will be different somehow, only time will tell, but wasn't this normally the time Roberto, used to take the squad on one of his warm weather training camps?Nothing wrong with that, except they always came back playing worse, after probably getting bored and baffled, and maybe also having too much of a rest? Darren Hind 160 Posted 22/01/2017 at 10:08:41 I fully agree with all the pro Europa posts...but I'm with Dave A here.I've had some fantastic nights down the years in European Cities, I would otherwise never have visited and like Dave, I would not want to deprive younger fans of the same opportunity... butI may be wrong here, but I cant remember a premier team having a successful campaign in Europe's second competition and qualify for the premier one at the same time. History would seem to suggest, that a less congested season would improve our chances of qualifying for the big one.Not knocking the Europa League, but it can be a gruelling test for even the biggest of squads. Mark Murphy 161 Posted 22/01/2017 at 10:20:08 Jay, you might have been near me? Right at the back near the radio cabin? Indeed crap views but thoroughly enjoyed that performance and don't think anyone didn't play their part. The only disappointment for me was that they still allow that dipstick with the bid drum in the ground with his fellow morons droning on about their postcode!!I assume your talking about Rom? I didn't notice that - I only had eyes for Seamus and Joel (how happy was he??) but thought Rom had a great game and played the target man superbly virtually untouchable. I'm just assuming he's gutted he didn't score any one else heard anything different?? David Ellis 162 Posted 22/01/2017 at 10:35:52 We need to get into the Europa League to progress. We need to learn how to win two legged matches against continental opponents. We need the Uefa ranking points to get decent draws in the Champions League. We need the extra £25m of revenue it now brings (far more than two years ago). We need it to attract the best players we can to the club. We need the Europa League if we want to progress. Stan Schofield 163 Posted 22/01/2017 at 10:58:51 Another performance underlining that we have a good squad. Like the City game, the starting line-up had only one player who was a Koeman signing. His signings make the squad stronger of course, so onwards and upwards on squad strength. And solid performances from the younger players. In this game, and the City game, we're looking more organised, gelling more as a team. Koeman's tactics are finally displaying some flexibility in dealing with different opponents, together with some continuity in maintaining a winning side. The players are looking fitter, leaner and sharper, and seem to be well up for the pressing that Koeman has been talking about. I feel we could finish in the top-4. It's a case of taking each game as it comes, and going for a win each time. Regarding the debate about CL versus EL, we'd obviously aim for the CL, but if we can't get in that, I'd happily be in the EL. We can handle the extra games better as the squad gets stronger. Brian Harrison 164 Posted 22/01/2017 at 11:24:28 I think we have found a system that suits these players, I know it didn't work against Chelsea away but 3 at the back makes us look solid. Also Coleman is thriving in not having to worry about getting back after an attacking run down the wing. No coincidence how much time Coleman now has in the oppositions box.This also allows us to play 2 up front which gives the midfield players more options when looking for a forward pass. I think it also benefits Barkley he is taking up a more attacking position now which he didn't always do when playing with a back 4.Also just as important it seems the players are enjoying this system. And a happy squad usually most times means a good performance. Jay Griffiths 165 Posted 22/01/2017 at 11:36:44 Mark (#61). No mate, row 24 half way up the front section. Sun blind the whole 1st half. The gradient in that stand seems to be all wrong. Not steep enough. Can't see over the people in front. Spent most of the second half watching the screen when we were defending. Great to see Holgate backing Seamus up round their box. Funes Mori defended well but didn't offer the same support to Baines up top. If we can get that balance then we can push on. Stayed to the end because for the first time in along time I felt something coming. Our end exploded then Seamus badge banging looked like a pig in shit. He was a happy blue.As for Davies, he seems to be one fearless, dynamic player. Lookman seems to show no regard for reputations too. Koeman may be coming over the hill. Douglas McClenaghan 166 Posted 22/01/2017 at 11:37:15 Just suppose... we won the Europa League. That team would become Everton legends and there is no way that every blue wouldn't be bursting with pride. Don Alexander 167 Posted 22/01/2017 at 13:12:08 On the issue of Koeman only playing one of the six players he's signed it'd be as well to note that one's in Africa, another is injured, two are brand new to the squad and "his" goalie may just be the reason that Joel is now playing so well. More players obviously means more effort and skill is required to get a game, effort and skill being apparently awol for way too many games this season. That's why I'd still like to see a couple more this month. Stan Schofield 168 Posted 22/01/2017 at 15:29:37 Don, I agree with that. We have a good squad at present, and want to make it even better. Especially with a pressing game (high intensity), and hopefully being involved in Europe in the not too distant future, a bigger squad of quality players is essential. Eddie Dunn 170 Posted 22/01/2017 at 16:55:43 David Price (#155). The ball went out for a throw to us a minute or two after Schlupp had his cramp. We took the throw as palace seemed to be preparing a sub. Big Sam was happy with a point and had intimated as much before the game, and Schlupp was prepared to waste some time, as we had been dominating.In the initial contact with Schlupp, our Goalie collected the ball and play rightly continued... happy days! Jim Hardin 171 Posted 22/01/2017 at 17:22:05 Colin #129,Couldn't believe what you wrote so went back and looked at the game again. Sorry, you are wrong, but perhaps you only want to see what you already want to believe. Rom had two aerial balls to contest in the first 60 minutes (by this I mean actual balls he could contest, not hopeful lofted passes somewhere in the vicinity of the opposing 18). Almost exactly at 60 seconds in, Rom wins a header. The next header he did not win but he jumped short and was not really close to the ball, still close enough to count. That came at 10:55. He took a ball off the chest from Williams at around 15:56, chested it down to his feet and laid the ball off for Ross, who shot wide of goal.In fact, the ball was played into Rom, or he showed for it near mid-field or out wide 8 times in the first half. He lost none of them and laid the ball off neatly for Ross to shoot twice and for Coleman to make the run and cross that deflected back to Rom, who hit the post with his shot. He also made a 30-yard sprint to try to win a long diagonal hopeful ball to the other side of the pitch. Second half he ran 40 yards up the pitch after a tunrover near their box, staying with the man with the ball to slow him up and allow us to get back as they were hitting us on a counter. I have the times in the game for each of these but putting them all in would be tedious.I have other numerous examples of how active he was, but I figure maybe you should watch the game again yourself as you obviously missed great chunks of it. Too bad as it was entertaining. Stan Schofield 172 Posted 22/01/2017 at 17:33:37 Jim, yes, I thought Rom had a very good game. That's two games in succession he's really put a good shift in, and showed good skills in control and laying the ball off. David Hallwood 173 Posted 22/01/2017 at 17:51:07 Watching Goals on Sunday on Sky, they made the point that Palace could've knocked the ball out of play but chose not to; so that's the end of that. Interesting selection dilemma for Koeman when Gana comes back from ACN; will he put Davies back on the bench and go back to two holding mids or go back to a back 4 and have Davies, Ross and Kev as the 3. Personally, I'd like to keep the 3 at the back and select one from Gana, Barry, Scheidelein or Gana. Either way good selection problem to have Colin Malone 174 Posted 23/01/2017 at 11:34:28 Jim (#171). What I see is a centre-forward who walks back from an offside position when we have an attacking opportunity, time and time again. I see Rom on the edge of the box instead of the six yard box, when a cross comes in. I see Rom without any aggression, when the opposing defenders have much time on the ball. Remember Andy Gray, Graham Sharp, Costa, Carroll, etc, who would not give defenders a second.Jim, I see a player who hardly wins an aerial ball, I'm not talking one match. I see a player who is so static in the penalty area, who wants the ball on a plate.I have seen great centre-forwards who burst a gut for Everton over many years. I don't see that from Rom. Brian Furey 175 Posted 23/01/2017 at 13:53:40 Yeah I like the 3 lads at the back, especially as it accommodates Holgate to get precious experience in the first team and it also allows Coleman (and hopefully we see more of Baines) push forward and get goals.Certainly with Gana, Schneiderlin, Davies, Barry, McCarthy & I suppose Besic when he returns it will be hard to keep all those guys happy on the bench. You would imagine McCarthy and Barry will be looking away in the summer unless Koeman really can convince them they will get games. Of course there will be injuries and suspensions but I can't see those two being happy at being on the bench, especially McCarthy.As Phil Neville said on Sat night, Davies despite being 18 has the physique of an adult man and is showing Koeman that he is well able to compete against the best midfielders in the league. I think with Davies playing as a DM but being a lot more attack minded that Gana or Barry/McCarthy has helped the team but hopefully Schneiderlin was also bring that when he gets up to speed. John Pierce 176 Posted 23/01/2017 at 14:29:44 Despite all the hype around Davies and Lookman, I think the real player is Holgate. He looks callow, but is to my mind already 2nd in the queue when we list our centre halves. Williams is better through experience not particularly because he is more skilled than Holgate. I was going to write that the back three gives Holgate protection whilst gaining valuable minutes in the first team. I think I would say that is now moot. He is definitely a key part of the team now. The question is can he play as a two? At the moment he might but none of the existing centre backs can. Its massive that we get a centre halve in before the window closes. I think we will go back for Kone at Sunderland. Jags is likely to leave, Mori despite a good team effort at Palace is clearly the weakest player in the side and needs the three as a crutch, saved by virtue of being left footed. I think the same might be said of Williams but maybe he and Holgate could be a pair? So ultimately we will play with a back 4 at some stage this season, so another defender is required. I will say with some balance, Holgate does need to improve his heading, or more pertinently, be switched on with his marker when a cross comes in (but all Everton defenders are guilty of this right?)The lad is a good decision maker, he played with great maturity after his yellow on Saturday, never went to ground afterwards. A sign of a brain, often missing from many modern players. How long before Holgate and Stones are first choice England centre backs? A touch of hyperbole I know but I think he really is that good. Fuck me I'm almost getting a raised pulse from a Koeman team.If we sign a defender and forward then a decent window, I expect momentum going into the Spurs game. Jim Hardin 177 Posted 23/01/2017 at 15:53:56 Colin,I understand your opinion but that is not what your post was about. I merely pointed out the errors in your statement. No one runs the entire game not even the center referee. Lukaku does walk but so do all strikers. Lukaku did well in my opinion and based upon what I saw and later reviewed. Most balls played to Rom were on the ground to his feet and he did well. Might be coaches' instructions or the fact we are playing players now who can make a better pass. Either way it is working. Andy Crooks 178 Posted 23/01/2017 at 21:07:57 Colin, I am with Jim on this. I see and accept your comments but he is top notch and without him where will the goals come from? He has the potential to be a world class striker and, in my view, the criticism of him on this site is unfair. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. About these ads Find out how to browse ad-free and support ToffeeWeb © ToffeeWeb