Tosun was denied January loan move

But I'm afraid young Dominic is now first choice, and is likely to be until the end of the season. He's getting stronger with each game, goals/assists are starting to come too.

One of those that if we get a decent offer for him we should let him go, allowing a new, young, hungry player to come in and compete with DCL (or get Giroud on a free!).

Goal scoring strikers are very hard to find, especially in January. Tosun came with a healthy goals record including a good number and ratio in the CL and at International level. He looked/is a hard working player with good character at a decent age and some decent clubs had been looking at him apparently. I'm no fan of Walsh/Allardyce but I can see the logic and like I said january is a tough time to find goalscorers. If we paid £27m for him then that is obviously way too much. £21m makes more sense. Not the worst of our signings over the last few years logic wise.

Sadly its not quite worked out for Tosun. He looked handy at the start of the season but the goals would not quite come for him and he wasn't quite doing enough to justify the drout. I think there's a decent player in there and would not be surprised to see him score 10-15 goals a season at Brighton/Burnley/Palace if starting every game. But i'd be surprised if he was to get that run of games now at Everton.

I hope he gets a move back to Turkey as he’s very highly thought of and the league there suits his abilities far more than the madness and frenetic nature of the British game.

Williams (does his contract run out this summer?)
Martina
Besic
Sandro
Mirallas
Niasse
Vlasic

Apart from the youngsters (who are not so much of a burden, agreed, and some would have become better players due to their loan spells)

Onyekuru
Baningime
Connolly
Robinson
Dowell
Joe Williams
Pennington
Holgate

I am sure I have missed out a few others.

The point is that Brands and Silva have a massive job on their hands in moving out the deadwood, including the types of Tosun, Schneids, McCarthy, who are in the squad presently making up the numbers, then it slowly dawns on me that this is going to be a long rebuilding job. In the meantime, we need to retain our key assets and rebuild the team around: Pickford, Keane, Coleman, Digne, Mina (if he stays injury free), Gomes and Gana (if they stay), Davies, Siggy (for another couple of years), Richarlison, Bernard, Calvert-Lewin, Lookman (if he is willing to stay and work hard). Lots of ifs and buts, and I am sure it will be a bumpy ride, but I trust in Brands and, hopefully, eventually Silva will get it right, and we see a steady improvement, with the one bright hope being the number of very talented youngsters we seem to have in the younger age groups.

Mind you if clubs are still willing to sign him, as Tosun says, there is still hope we can recuperate a lot of the fee we paid for him.

You asked in your earlier post is there a worse deal than the Tosun deal, well I would imagine Sandro on a similar length contract and rumoured to be on £100,000 per week tops it.

Seems that different managers and DOF have wasted the best part of £250,000 million, and since the money has come in Everton have gone backwards. I don't know if its true but somebody said in the last 2 years there is only 2 clubs in the Premier League spent more than Everton.

This summer will need to see the biggest exodus of players that we have ever had, but shifting average and below average players on top money will be extremely difficult. I am afraid the only way to escape this mess is for Moshiri to sanction a giveaway sale of these players. Which will also have an impact on our transfer activity this summer. I think we will see very few additions until 10/12 players have been sold.

After spending £25 million, Koeman decided that? And then he wanted Sigurddson for £45 million, to go and play him on the wing? Fuckin crazy, is putting it very mildly.

If anything it would see if Tosun would sink or swim plus throw a curve ball at the opposition.

Pickford
Coleman, Keane, Zouma, Digne,
Richarlison, Gana, Gomes, Bernard,
DCL, Tosun

Heading off the outcry what about Siggy, I love the guy but to play 4-4-2 he is the natural sacrifice.

Will we never try a different formation?

Schneiderlin 100k
Walcott 100k
Bolasie 75k
Mirallas 70k
Williams 70k
Sandro 65k
Tosun 60k
Niasse 55k
McCarthy 50k
Martina 35k
Stekelenburg 30k
Basic 30k
Garbutt 28k
Galloway 23k
Tarshsaj 15k

That’s 806k per week on players we probably want to get rid of, just shy of £42million per year. If we just managed to get £50m for the lot, then that’s close to £100million saved over the course of 1 year.

Kind of puts Brands job into perspective.

Given the fact he's still in his 20s and he has scored goals for Turkey and in lower standard leagues, he is one of the few we would get good money for as we look to rebuild again this summer.

Wish him well wherever he goes.

I just received my latest issue of Sports Illustrated magazine. On page 4, underneath a photo of Sadio Mane and the headline "Seeing Reds", is the following:

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Marketing. What a concept.

I had high hopes for Foulds & Charsley but they've not been offered extensions to their contracts which also expire this summer.

Kevin16# those figures are a little off, Sandro is on over 100k, Schneiderlin is on 120k, he's the 2nd highest paid player at the club and Garbutt left last summer... but it's a well made point all the same.

I personally think he would have thrived with Richarlison had he been given a run in his preferred position when the latter returned from suspension at the start of the season but Silva elected to replace Tosun with Richarlison up front which did nothing for either party and our positive start to the season ended there and then.

I like Silva but you don’t drop your one and only international striker from the team for three weeks when he hasn’t built up his confidence in a new league yet.

Nothing left to play for so why not go 4-4-2.

He was brought in at 21-27m to be the no1 striker, but the reality is the DCL is better . So Tosun just cant get a run of games, or find a rhythm or form.

To make it tougher for him DCL is improving . Tosun will get no meaningful game time.

On top of this Marco Silva will want to bring in a goal scorer of his own in the summer . I expect Tosun will be sold at 10-15m, it would be the best thing for all parties.

He is one of those strikers who expects 'it on a plate' without doing any running for it, which neither suits our style of play, or few others in the Prem these days.

Reading the stats on some of our deadwood on here and the salaries makes depressing reading, and a headache for Marcel Brands to sort out, I feel we will have to be patient for even longer, in the hope that we will eventually get there.

I am of the opinion that a lot of Silva's selections are based on trying to get value out of this bloated squad. This Summer will also be dictated by Brands trying to reduce the wages bill and work within the Uefa regulations,

Everton have an absolute rake of Tony Cottee types on their books, Tosun being one of the biggest. His lack of pace means he can't beat a defender or move into positions fast enough. He needs other players to do the work for him, but his finishing is bad as well. He will probably end up being loaned out, but there is a danger he could flop.

https://footy11.videostreamlet.net/player/html/4ev8MpoFbi?popup=yes&autoplay=1

Watch him start from the left touchline well inside his own half and then just drive. He spots the defender (#15) five yards and burns him. No lack of movement there.

Cenk comes up short in a number of areas, but for me movement isn't one of them.

In short, I think M&M are largely fecked this summer.

I'm going for a lie down now.

When Sam signed him he claimed he was the best available at that money, that is how much of a pleb the guy is. At £20m+ there was hundreds of strikers who could hit close to double figures (look at Murray at Brighton), it's about buying the right player to suit what your team does.

We need Brands and Silva to clear a lot out of the club, whilst nurturing the potential of many others.

We potentially have a great young squad, we just need a few key players to see it through.

Pickford/Virginia
Coleman/Kenny
Digne/Robinson/Baines
Keane/Feeney
Mina/Holgate
Gana/Davies
Gomes (🙏)/Williams
Richalison/Bernard
Lookman/Onyekuru
Sigardson/Dowell/Vlasic
DCL and another.

See what comes of that, get shut of the rest, and buy players to replace those who need more time out on loan.

Moyes bought Beattie & Johnson.

Martinez bought Lukaku, the only proper striker who scored goals and bailed us out regularly. And got us a large profit.

Koeman took a punt on Sandro which hasn't worked.

Allardyce took a punt on Tosun.

The only difference is the hike in transfer fees and wages.

Plus ca change and all that.

Didn't realise how much Bernard, Mina and Gomes where costing. They are no bargain. Mina's hamstring going would point to a player that is not training to the level he should.

Again Walcott at £100, 000 - Arsenal must have laughing down their sleeve. Tosun on loan may be a flop.

Definitely agree that the summer is a sorting out match, progress will be heading in the right direction to do that. That's not progressing Everton to the top four.

M&M will have to work as best they can with what they got. There is no point in changing the Manager. Review when the mess is sorted. Though I fear it is a sell at loss, loan out and run down contract job,

Moshiri needs to sort out the Board and back M & M to clean out the back room management, Martinez had a spat over the treatment of injuries, Everton brought back the guy that left - Mina hamstring,

Please, no extended contracts for aged players!

As far as I'm aware Luke Garbutt is still here. Unless he was transferred, in the last window, he's contracted until June 2020.

In no way am I saying let’s start him until the end of the season, but surely having him on the bench at the expense of Tosun will do is no harm given our league position? If he comes on and does well, he’s in the squad for next season.

If he doesn’t, he can go on loan next year and get some experience.

He was clearly one of Moyes 'favourites', along with Phil Neville, hence the reward of a 'extended' contract for both players. I wondered how many younger player's were let go to accommodate those two.

Hibbo then had the audacity to complain bitterly in the Echo about the way he had been treated at the end of his contract. Apparently no-one from the club informed him it was not being renewed. This after stealing a wage for four seasons.

Had a laugh at that when I read it in the Echo.