Season › 2018-19 › News Everton shrug West Ham off at the London Stadium Lyndon Lloyd Saturday, 30 March, 2019 172comments | Jump to most recent West Ham United 0 - 2 Everton Bernard's first Premier League goal put Everton into what proved this time to be an unassailable lead Paul Harding / Getty Images Everton put in one of their best performances of the season, surging into a 2-0 half-time lead and shutting down West Ham's attempts at a second-half fightback to register a second successive 2-0 victory.Kurt Zouma returned to the starting line-up and put the Blues ahead after just four minutes with a header off a corner and Bernard scored his first Premier League goal later in the first half to put Marco Silva's men into what proved to be an unassailable lead.Everton could have won more handsomely and Richarlison hit the woodwork from an unchallenged header late on but this was an impressive display that put to bed the debacle at Newcastle earlier this month where they coughed up an identical advantage at the halfway stage. Silva named an expected line-up that includes the return of Zouma who was ineligible to face Chelsea a fortnight ago but there was a change on the bench where Ademola Lookman replaced Morgan Schneiderlin.The opening exchanges were fairly even but when Richarlison won an early corner, it was the Blues who took the lead after just four minutes. Gylfi Sigurdsson swung in the set-piece and Zouma rose highest to bounce a header into the top corner.Everton couldn't make a promising counter-attack pay off when Sigurdsson's cross was cut out for another corner three minutes later and Bernard took too long to get a shot away on another breakaway shortly afterwards as Silva's men looked to turn the screw.Everton came again in the 12th minute, Richarlison putting Calvert-Lewin in but his shot was parried by Fabianski and the keeper foiled Sigurdsson on the rebound. Seconds later, Everton were denied a third time as West Ham's defence somehow held under the pressure. Bernard tried to pick Calvert-Lewin out in goal in the 16th minute but his ball was inches off then striker's toe as it skidded across the six-yard box and then it was Sigurdsson's turn to hesitate when space opened up for a shot and he was crowded out. West Ham had barely had a look-in but Marko Arnautovic had a chance when put in by a ball over the top but lost his footing and Keane cleared while Manuel Lanzini received a pass in space but was dispossessed by Idrissa Gueye in the box before he could get a shot away. Article continues below video content Everton continued to pose a threat getting to the byline and this time it was Richarlison who tried to find Calvert-Lewin in the six-yard box but his ball was also just too far in front of the striker.West Ham began to gain a foothold as the half progressed but Everton remained dangerous in transition but it was terrific movement that created the second goal. Coleman made an excellent run beyond the fullback to receive a pass and he drove the byline to cut the ball back for Bernard to tap home in front of goal. Fabianski denied Richarlison before Robert Snodgrass went as close as the Hammers had to that point when he dragged an effort just wide from the edge of the box as half-time approached while back-to-back corners for the home side tested Everton's resolve at the back in first-half stoppage time.Manuel Pellegrini made two changes at half-time, with Michail Antonio replacing Pedro Obiang and Javier Hernandez coming on for Lucas Pérez and West Ham enjoyed the better of the first 10 minutes after the break without unduly threatening Jordan Pickford's goal.Strong work by Coleman against Arnautovic at the other end forced the first corner of the second half and Andre Gomes's volley would have caused Fabianski all sorts of problems had Zabaleta not blocked it superbly nine minutes into the second half.Wonderful work by Bernard to leave his marker for dead on the left ended with a cross that Aaron Cresswell defended well against Richarlison with an hour gone before the Brazilian scuffed a shot that the keeper comfortably gathered.Then, with 18 minutes to go, Sigurdsson played Calvert-Lewin in and he took one touch before firing an early shot into the side-netting and the 22-year-old had another chance a couple of minutes later by Keane's terrific ball over the top but blazed high and wide of goal. West Ham were being kept contained impressively and Everton remained the more dangerous of the two teams, Digne forcing a corner when his cross looped over the bar off a defender's leg and Calvert-Lewin also seeing a shot deflect behind as the game moved into the final 10 minutes.From the second dead ball, Richarlison thumped a header off the crossbar with a free header and Fabianski got behind a drive from Sigurdsson on the rebound. Silva made his first change with six minutes to go when Tom Davies came on in place of Sigurdsson, then swapped Calvert-Lewin for Cenk Tosun three minutes later and finally sent Theo Walcott on for Richarlison just before the end. A pleasingly strong display from the Blues ended in another 2-0 victory and clean sheet and it lifted them back into the top half of the table into 9th place on goal difference and just a point off seventh for the time being. Kick-off: 5:30pm, Saturday 30 March, 2019Referee: Paul TierneyLast Time: West Ham United 3-1 EvertonPredicted Line-up: Pickford, Coleman, Keane, Zouma, Digne, Gueye, Gomes, Sigurdsson, Bernard, Richarlison, Calvert-LewinSubs: Stekelenburg, Baines, Jagielka, Davies. Lookman, Walcott, TosunWest Ham: Fabianski, Zabaleta, Diop, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Rice, Obiang, Snodgrass, Lanzini, Arnautovic, PérezSubs: Balbuena, Adrià¡n, Noble, Hernà¡ndez, Masuaku, Antonio, Diangana Full match report Reader Comments (172) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Jeff Armstrong 1 Posted 30/03/2019 at 17:01:49 Nice to see Lookman replace Schneiderlin on the bench. Chris Gould 2 Posted 30/03/2019 at 17:02:21 That's the team I think most will have expected, although I'm surprised Schneiderlin hasn't made the bench.Glad to see Anderson is out of their team. Tony Everan 3 Posted 30/03/2019 at 17:17:22 It's good to see an expected team, it means we have some stability and it's doing ok . I'm optimistic today that we can put in a good performance and build on the Chelsea win. I want to see our front three perform again as a unit, Bernard taking full backs on, Richarlison making good decisions and DCL showing the aggression he has been giving of late. Neil Lawson 4 Posted 30/03/2019 at 18:16:09 Pinching myself. Not sure it's Everton I am watching. So many really good performances. Would love to see DCL seal it with a third. However, this is Everton ! Ernie Baywood 5 Posted 30/03/2019 at 18:20:37 We could be out of sight here. Let a few chances go by trying to be too cute. They look they're enjoying themselves in attack. Great to see.Cracking half. Can we put 90 minutes together? Jeff Armstrong 6 Posted 30/03/2019 at 18:24:19 Half time 2-0 up, Been here before lightening doesn't strike twice in one place..well that was Newcastle and this is London..FFS don't let this one slip. Jay Wood[BRZ] 7 Posted 30/03/2019 at 18:24:52 'Blitz!' 'Avalanche!' 'Tsunami!'Just 3 words my Brazilian commentator has used to describe Everton's relentless attacking in that first half.He also has a great name for Bernard: 'Alegria nas pernas' .'Joy in the legs!'Delighted the wee man got the second goal from a very slick move. I hope nobody overlooks Siggy's part in it, chasing down the 'keeper who shanks the ball to one of ours to set up the counter.We have been blisteringly brilliant. Without question, the best 45 minutes of football we have played all season. How we aren't 4-5-even 6 to the good is a mystery.We're pulling WHU out of position all over the park. It's as if they don't have full backs.Now Blues, don't do a Newcastle on us and there's more goals in this for us. Mark Hughes 8 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:09:44 Why do all DCL shots go over? Neil Lawson 9 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:19:50 Credit where credit is due. Terrific performance against an awful opponent. Many standouts, and tough to choose MOM. Honourable mentions for Zouma, Gueye and Bernard, but standout was Gomes. Onwards and upwards hopefully. John G Davies 10 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:23:14 Wonderful performance from the lads. Controlled it from start to finish. Silva is starting to influence the team into how he wants them playing. Four clean sheets in last five games and a threat going forward. Chris Gould 11 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:23:31 A stroll in the park. Fantastic, energetic, and disciplined performances from everyone. Some really nice partnerships forming. Gomes back to his best, Gueye completely dominant, and Bernard full of energy for the full 90!!!Very satisfying. Stephen Brown 12 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:25:28 Great performance Blues! Looking very solid at the back which is pleasing! Peter Gorman 13 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:27:27 Excellent performance from the team, it doesn't seem worthy to single anybody out for praise.Where has this football been all season? The front 4 pressing high up the pitch and failing that Gana and Gomes winning possession deeper, then attacking en masse at a gallop.Could have and perhaps should have been as many as 4 or 5 goals to the good but they played exactly as I want the side to do, none of the static dithering we've been accustomed to, but real purpose and cohesion.West Ham had absolutely no answer. Tony Hill 14 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:27:57 This West Ham side has done very well against some top sides. We thoroughly outplayed them and it was wonderful to watch. The main thing is that we are playing a type of football which some of us remember from long ago: one touch, free-flowing, full of style.Miles to go but that was joyous and we managed the second-half beautifully. Gomes, Gueye (who has been absolutely top notch all season), Bernard and all of them were great. But Gomes in particular, my word; that man has been transported from the realm of Everton forms. Ernie Baywood 15 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:28:10 Very enjoyable game. Not sure why it took so long to make subs when the forwards were looking leggy.No complaints though. Better team by miles! Raymond Fox 16 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:29:22 Well done Everton, I thought we might slip up today but glad to be proved wrong. Jamie Crowley 17 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:29:29 Player Ratings:Picks - 8 (launched a simple clearance into row Z)Coleman - 10Keano - 10Zouma - 10Digne - 10Gomes - 10Gana - 10Rich - 10Bernie - 10+Siggy - 10DCL - 10 Peter Gorman 18 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:31:24 Hard to argue with those scores, Jamie.So many slick moves I lost count. First class football today. Steve Ferns 19 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:31:45 Superb. Corner is being turned. We need to keep this up and not rest on our laurels. We can get 7th. We are improving. We're still in progress, but everyone can see the plan today. There's something to build on now. John Pierce 20 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:32:48 Comfortably the most professional performance of the season. Gave about 75/80 minutes of effort, the most in one game I've seen. Only one slight half scream around 70minutes when I though a change was needed. Well done Marco, you get the plaudits for sure. Nice one. Ray Robinson 21 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:34:52 Best performance for ages. The possession and link up play was superb. Everyone played well. A joy to watch. Derek Knox 22 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:34:55 Let's hope we can go on a decent run and get that 7th place, I would rather have Europa league than nothing.All players were good today and passing was a lot better, but not getting too carried away West Ham were poor today, not taking the polish off the performance, but let's see how we cope with the Arse next week. Brian Hennessy 23 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:38:03 Best performance of Silva's reign, simply superb Tony Hill 24 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:41:03 I don't care about Arsenal next week or anyone else this season. The point is that this manager is bringing back our soul. I know that sounds over the top but we are, in stages, reigniting the true Everton. We are going to be lovely to watch.There will be big bumps in the road but this is the manager we need. Credit to Steve Ferns for seeing it; I didn't. Dermot O'Brien 25 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:44:18 Oops, looks like I came into a post Everton match comments section on a ToffeeWeb from a parallel universe. Dave Abrahams 26 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:45:33 Read about this wonderful performance on Live Forum, I just wish I could have seen it, made a lot of Evertonians happy tonight. Ain't life grand. Stephen Brown 27 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:47:07 Silva has taken the stick but has to take credit for the recent form and results! We're looking good! Positive run to the end of the season and take 7th? This will help keep and attract the correct players. Pleased Seamus had a good game again! The players seem happy! Come on boys let's get 7th and push on! Ian Lloyd 28 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:47:08 I have been silvas worst critic but that was what I want To see!I know w ham were poor but we were brilliant and if that is what he Is trying to do then I can't say anything negative. Anthony Murphy 29 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:49:37 Made up for Marco. Onwards and upwards.Need to tie down Gomes on a permanent deal and get Guye to sign a new contract. Derek Knox 30 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:51:49 Dave, makes watching MotD worth watching for a change, just got to keep this going now.Dave, spoke to john McFarlane Snr yesterday on the phone yesterday he's up for this get-together. I am speaking with the Manager of Wetherspoons tomorrow about reserving a bit of space and seating on the 21st April, from 16.30 onwards, will keep you posted. My mobile is 07565140075 if you need to get in touch or give me your's or Tony's number. Bill Watson 31 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:51:56 Only the second game I've missed this season! The other was Chelsea away 0-0. I may just miss a few more.Tremendous all round team performance the only slight criticism being we should have been out of sight at half time. Paul Thompson 32 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:52:23 Today we did the kinds of things that very good teams do - moved the ball quickly, showed plenty of movement off the ball and worked hard to get the balll back. It shows that these players and Silva can do it. Let's see if they can do it consistently. We do need to be more clinical though and for all DCL's plus points, his decision-making leaves a lot to be desired, Everyone was ghood, but Gomes stood out (and worked harder than normal). Jay Wood[BRZ] 33 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:52:59 Now that was fun!So much to enjoy. Slick, quick, close and tight one-two all over the park which constantly bamboozled the home team.Every single one of them were on their game today. Richarlison was back to his very best, both in attack and in his defensive duties. He played the same role for Brazil in their two games this week and I was pleased he was substituted in the 2nd game because he was chasing down everything like he did today. I think Silva did himself, Richarlison and the team no favours in persisting with the lad as centre forward as long as he did in our barren spell. He is so much more effective facing the goal than playing with his back to goal.I think the subs could have come a lot earlier too. DCL in particular was blowing for tugs long before Tosun came on.But some truly sumptuous football on view today. Peter Warren 34 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:55:06 Best I've seen us play this season but we are so wasteful in or around the box it's criminal. We should have won 5 or 6 to 0 today Sam Hoare 35 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:57:55 Silva Out! Couldn't resist.I doubt Silva has been telling them anything that different to what he's told them all season. The big, crucial difference is confidence. We had it after the Chelsea game and it transforms us.So pleased Bernie got a goal. I said on the thread this morning that he should be getting 6-8 per season. And I think he could next season.More please. Brent Stephens 36 Posted 30/03/2019 at 19:59:11 I think our best performance this season was Chelsea away. But still very satisfied with today. Not necessarily the best player, but DCL showed he's perhaps getting there. Andrew Clare 37 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:01:48 Well done Everton. Great performance. Made my weekend. We looked class all over the pitch. Stick with the players and the manager they will get better and better together. Wonderful stuff. Tony Hill 38 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:04:45 Peter @234, imagine what we'll be like when we get a finisher. One of the most pleasing things was that we looked fit and, as others have said, the press was excellent. Seamus for that second goal, after all his struggles, was uplifting to watch.I feel 20 years old after that game. Let's get properly behind Silva and this potentially exciting team. We still need Mr Brands to do his stuff in the summer, of course. John Hammond 39 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:09:05 Really should have been 3 or 4 up at half time. One of the worst first half performances by anyone this season from West Ham but let's not take anything away from the players - blew them away from the whistle.Last 5 games has seen us take 10 points, score 9 goals, concede 2 and keep 4 clean sheets against a mixture of relegation candidates top 6 teams and a mid-table dweller. We have definitely seen a gradual shift to a more confident team. Next Sunday will be tough but after that we're at Fulham. 4 points? Paul Birmingham 42 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:14:56 Great performance, no complaints from me tonight, must get Gana, to stay, Gomez, Superb, DCL, coming of age now each game, and he's now the primary CF.Loads to learn and improve, but taking stock, and for me possibly our best team performance this season. There was 14 Captains on the park today and all were professional and we played like a team.The next match is another big game, massive, but potential for setting up good momentum for, a grand finish to this season.Spike the Gunners, and keep this level going and GP will do the rest next week.No delusion yet, but it's deffo winnable. Happy Celebrations tonight Evertonians, and for those staying over down the smoke, and for those on car and train, safe passage home.Optimism, no more but genuine optimism, tonight, as the team looks like it has regained its belief.NB Any one know why MS wasn't in today's squad? Clive Mitchell 43 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:16:24 Well done, Everton. Derek Taylor 44 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:27:42 Happy to give 10/10 to manager and players. West Ham were woeful but you can only beat what's in front of you. Next week will be a different challenge, let's hope that just for once we are up to it ! Paul Birmingham 45 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:33:16 Also those on many coaches back home from today's match,, safe passage home, and celebrate in good style. Billy Roberts 46 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:39:47 Just like to say in the brief part of the match I saw today Coleman seemed to be doing a great job of bullying Arnautovic, not easy as he is a big and physical player but Seamus had him rattled and Seamus of course contributed directly to the second goal, there were many excellent performances out there today, Gueye, Siggy included. Andy Crooks 47 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:42:45 Steve Ferns, take a bow. And then take another. You stuck by your man and your views when many, including myself, wavered. I can see it falling into place; you always saw it. Hope we can meet up on Easter Sunday after the game. John McFarlane Snr 48 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:49:11 Hi Dave [26], I watched the game on BT Sport. My disappointment is that the pundits, Glenn Hoddle, Steve McManaman, etc, appeared to be of the opinion that Everton won because of the performance of West Ham, who (to tell the truth) were poor, but I'm sure that, if this had been our cousins from across the park, playing against the 'Hammers', the so-called experts would have been waxing lyrical,My opinion is that the Everton I saw today was a joy to watch, the standout performers in an excellent team effort were, in my opinion, Gomes and Gana Gueye. We have played poor sides on many occasions; today, we did to West Ham, what we should've done to those other teams. I see that Derek Knox has told you that he phoned me up regarding a 'ToffeeWeb' get together. I have informed him that I will give him my full support, and that includes publicising it as often as I can. Those who have attended the two previous gatherings – my 80th birthday celebration and Mike Gaynes's visit as part of his European tour – had a great time. I had hoped that such meetings would become a regular occurrence, a chance to put faces to names and to exchange experiences as 'Blues'. So come on, 'ToffeeWebbers' – Derek is putting a lot of effort into this venture. Martin Mason 49 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:53:39 West Ham are a good side who played as well as they were allowed. Take a bow Everton, your time is coming Paul Birmingham 50 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:54:09 Next week, if we can do the Arsenal, and in good style and manner, that will be a good building block. Their manager is one of the Best, and it will be good to see, such a good test, but with GP, in top vocal form, and passion, we could get the massive home win, to kick on for the rest of this season.Now for the injury role call. Nb I hope Zouma, asks to move, to EFC, but fate, and it's twists, could work out for EFC, for once. I really hope so, as I see him and MK, showing good signs.A good day and result, the Ides of March have been reasonable, for a change, for EFC. Derek Taylor 51 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:57:51 Andy, as you should know 'one swallow does not a summer make.'Thought you were a bit more balanced than to believe 'the rubican' has been crossed. Let's see what the Arsenal game brings us before granting this manager Holy Orders ! John McFarlane Snr 52 Posted 30/03/2019 at 20:59:33 HI Derek [30], I hope that you will be successful in your attempt to bring fellow 'ToffeeWeb' Evertonians together, I think it's an excellent idea and I hope that those who attended the other two gatherings, will also support this latest venture. Kevin Prytherch 53 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:03:03 I think one of the biggest differences between now and a few weeks ago is the wide players. Sigurdsson plays so far upfield that, when the wide players play like wingers, we are to exposed in midfield.Today, and for Richarlison - for the last few games, both wingers played as midfielders when we didn't have the ball. There were two banks of 4 consistently, which weren't there a while ago.I think it will be difficult for Lookman to break into this team now until he learns his defensive responsibility, and I don't think Walcott will ever learn it. The link up play between the wide players seems to be getting better and better on both flanks. There have been many mistakes this year, but maybe Silva has started to learn from these and is tweaking his formation accordingly. Dave Abrahams 54 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:04:21 John (48)I never saw the game but couldn't be happier with the result, hope it is a sign of things to come, don't take too much notice of pundits, they get overpaid for their opinions, in my opinion.I read Dereks post and will be going to the afternoon/ evening gathering to greet Andy Crooks on his trip over from Belfast, I hope he gets a good turn out, remarkable how he made the effort to come to Liverpool to meet Mike Gaynes, even though he didn't have a ticket for the Derby game at Anfield, I hope to see you there. Tony Hill 55 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:06:54 Equally, Derek @51, we should not assume that Silva is unworthy if we lose to Arsenal. That type of game to game ricocheting is nonsense.This team is playing some fine football and did so in patches earlier in the season; football not seen from us for a very long time. Let's enjoy the fact instead of always worrying about what might be around the corner.That sort of reflex timidity is a big part of Everton's longstanding problems. Martin Mason 56 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:08:15 Derek@51, Rubicons are irrelevant, we must just take every game as it comes. You are negative in your thoughts, we will change when we fans are positive Jay Harris 57 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:13:13 Best team performance I have seen in years never mind this season.Lets hope Steve Ferns prediction that the 17 day break would enable Silva to spend some proper time coaching the players comes home to roost..As someone who has constantly criticised Silva and defended the players I agreeably eat humble pie tonight we were superb throughout the team and very well organized.I have said in the past the players played like they were playing with strangers but today there were 3 or 4 players around the ball consistently whether we had it or they had it.A great weekend for all Blues and long overdue. Derek Taylor 58 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:14:07 Martin, the team may change - for good or ill - but it won't be because of anything any of us say on here, believe me ! Steve Ferns 59 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:22:58 Too early to be taking any bows, Andy. We've still lost more than we won and are only in 9th in the table. We still have to attain some consistency. I'm just glad you're getting more than a glimpse of what a good coach can do.And again, it's easy to spot a good coach when he's managing a side you follow. It doesn't make me all-knowledgable. My Portuguese friends told me how respected a coach he was. His early career (pre-premier league) was quite spectacular, so it wasn't really seeing something no one else could, it was just having seen something others hadn't had the opportunity to do so.I did say the big question mark was whether silva could turn things around. He had never had a sticky patch before and come through it. Sure, he had one at Watford, but he was fired before he could show if he could turn it around.What Silva has now done is show he can turn things around. That he is resilient. He's almost there in terms of earning himself another season in most fans eyes, but the reality was that moshiri was never going to sack him, not unless disaster struck. This manager was “his man†more than any other. He was being criticised for not sticking with a manager, and he now had a director of football who is calm and has a history of sticking by the manager. I always believed moshiri would stick by Silva and that if given time, then the old adage of form is temporary and class is permanent would shine through.I hope everyone has a great evening and that we can keep this going. We've a patch of form now, but we need it to become consistent. Just think of the momentum we will have if we can win next Sunday! End of season momentum can mean a great season the following year. Benjamin Dyke 60 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:36:32 Great to hear the positivity especially after the misery we've had often this year. Keep it up lads! Martin Mason 61 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:37:25 Derek, yes and no but success in anything comes from a positive attitude and we should be positive on social media and at the ground because it has positive feedback to everybody. Rather than be negative, channel that into positive criticism which is different. Everton fans have a dreadful reputation for negativity and that saddens me. Paul Birmingham 62 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:37:56 There's loads to play for, but today there's a sense of some form of grit, elan, team spirit, being formed?Time will prove, but it's a good starting point. Now by all means, to beat Arsenal. Tony Abrahams 63 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:39:47 Not believe Derek, “Beliefâ€!I hope to be home from holiday to meet Andy, for a pint after the United game, and look forward to meeting everyone else who is going. If Everton can keep this form up, then it should be a very happy gathering, hopefully being surrounded by positive toffees, although three weeks is a very long time in football, so let's just enjoy today! Andrew Laird 64 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:45:35 Excellent performance and result, Everton controlled the game for the full 90 minutes which is something I haven't seen in a Premier league match for years. Thank you blue boys.To anyone who was asking for us to play 442 in 2019, have a look at how easy it was to carve West Ham open. 442 will have its day again in about 10 years or so but you cannot concede that much space every time you lose possession, If Everton were more clinical and Fabianski less mobile then the scoreline would have been more embarrassing for the Hammers.The green shoots of recovery to the general malaise appear to be here, Gana seems transformed after PSG were sniffing about. DCL is equipping himself very well for the future, Gomes looks a cut above any player we have on a technical level except Bernard and Richarlison is busting his nuts again for the team.A serious question, does Theo Walcott have a clause in his contract to play some part in a game if he is fit? Come on Marco, it's your blind spot! Paul Birmingham 65 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:48:33 Tony, zackly, as we know, injuries et al, and it's a farce.Some how I sense, a Hell, will rise in a good way for EFC, and a very worthy old foe, whose done us more than we can imagine.Next week and This Team, will do the business. Beat Arsenal in good style, and the Crowd at GP, the best and revered Home Crowd, will see this Day, just like when we done them with AJ, and RL. In recent times.Hope Eternal, as Everton. John Audsley 66 Posted 30/03/2019 at 21:56:57 Absolutely brilliant performance today, best in a very, very long time.I hope and pray we manage to buy Zouma and Gomes this summer. If we can add a top striker we will have an excellent side.Confidence and self belief are so important, if only we had played like this after the 1st Derby. Terry Underwood 67 Posted 30/03/2019 at 22:06:57 it looks like Siggy is growing into his role.DCL needs to add a bit of composure to his game and the samba boys are getting the idea. lookin good Terry Farrell 68 Posted 30/03/2019 at 22:24:16 Great performance against a team who have won their last 3 home games on the bounce. Anoutavic is a stroppey child who has disrupted west ham in less than a year but there were people on here gutted we never signed the prick. Loved Tom Davies little cameo and we will have more ups and downs but let's please keep the faith and support progress. John Raftery 69 Posted 30/03/2019 at 22:37:05 That was our most complete team performance home or away in several years. Someone coming out of the stadium likened it to those of our team in the mid eighties. Such comments were not misplaced. The form since the seventeen day break last month is much improved with four clean sheets in five. It would appear Silva used that time profitably to instil better defensive organisation from front to back. John McFarlane Snr 70 Posted 30/03/2019 at 22:47:42 Hi Dave [54], I left you a post regarding Josh's progress, on the "We were treated like Royalty" thread; this thread now appears to be dormant. Fran Mitchell 71 Posted 30/03/2019 at 22:50:18 Good day at the office, more of this and Silva just may have saved his job.The combination of Siggy, Gomes, and Gueye was excellent. Each with defined roles, but none static. Siggy won the ball back on many an occasion, really pressed them hard every time they got the ball, while still being the creative fulcrum. Gomes battled, won the ball, charged forward, kept possession, for me it was an excellent all-round performance, a proper no-8 and he really showed his potential. And Gueye was Gueye, covered more grass than a lawnmower at Buckingham Palace, tackled like the tackling machine he is and joined in the attacking moves.Bernard seems to be getting better and better.Zouma was imperious, first his leap for the goal, followed by his composure on the ball when in defense, he must be our no1 transfer target.Good for Pickford to get another clean sheet, but his kicking is a bit wayward.and a shout out to both Richarilson and Coleman, who I thought put in a very decent performances. The Former has had his critics, but he is working hard, falling over less, and this is the 3rd different position he has played this season and he hasn't complained. While the latter really did struggle to get back to his very high standards, but seems to be on an upward trajectory. Alan McKie 72 Posted 30/03/2019 at 22:53:18 Well done lads. Three away points and a clean sheet They all put a shift in, and we could have won by more . We were best all over the park and it was the most complete 90 minutes of the season. Quick and strong with some very good footy too. Peter Gorman 73 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:00:33 I wholeheartedly urge any fan who missed today's game to try and watch it in full because a 2-0 away win sounds fine and dandy but it doesn't tell the whole story.The football was brilliant and the attitude exactly what we want to see in each and every game; the forwards were going for the jugular every couple of minutes it seemed. The team played triangles around West Ham or just split them straight open so often it was impossible to count. Something really seemed to click and everybody was on their A game.I think it must have been when Gana (obviously) took the ball off Lazzini for West Ham's first meaningful threat, it fell to Pickford who got it downfield so quickly for a 4 on 4 break that the pundit quipped; "It looks like there are two game of football going on here". Peter Roberts 74 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:17:38 Bow here's a stat which will make you raise en eyebrow or two: Everton registered 7 shots on target in the first half. The last time they achieved this feat was against Reading in November 2012!And people think Moyes' teams were dour. I have to say I'm surprised at that even taking Martinez' first season into account. Brian Wilkinson 75 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:25:39 Great performance today, surprising when we get a good result the comments are in around the hundred comments, yet when we have a blip in a result, it's closer to 300 comments, so big thumbs up to the other 74 who have praised the club and the manager.Really hope we can land Gomes and Zouma, and Gaye stays.Be nice to know where we would be in the table, with a centre forward putting our chances away, from the beginning of the season, right up to today's game.Calvert is coming along but a top class striker is a must if we are to move onto the next level. Fran Mitchell 76 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:29:41 Brian, when we lose, it often triggers more debate, so more people commenting 2/3/4 times or more. When we win, we comment, then enjoy the rest of our day. Phil Sammon 77 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:32:37 Peter 73I've just watched the whole thing and I completely agree. We could easily have won 5-0. Magnificent performance all round. The first half was an absolute joy to behold. It's the best we've played in a long, long time. Bernard was superb. Coleman was his marauding best. I've given Richarlison plenty of grief but he deserves a lot of credit today too. No diving or sulking. In fact he looked genuinely happy out there. Maybe that's when he plays his best footy.And lastly, a huge well done to Silva. We played them off the park and a lot of that was down to his tactics. One slight anomaly that bothers me is his reluctance to use his subs. Richarlison was on his arse after 65mins and we have players like Lookman who need minutes. It just seems strange to ignore that. I shouldn't complain after a win like that. It's great to be an Everton fan! Don Alexander 78 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:32:49 Brian, whilst delighted by the manner of victory I'm not gushing until we've made the likes of Arsenal and Liverpool rue taking us on, that's all. Simon Dalzell 79 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:49:51 Thoroughly enjoyable. Could have been six. We desperately need a centre forward . Calvert llewin will never be good enough as long as he's got a hole in his . Jerome Shields 80 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:51:26 Watched MOTD. At last a relentless Everton side and what's more a side that can improve further. Happy days. Looking forward to the Arsenal game. A long time since I was able to say that. Bill Gienapp 81 Posted 30/03/2019 at 23:57:40 We're all guilty of being prisoners of the moment, it's human nature, but this is exactly why I urged people to hold off until season's end before making any definitive assessments re: Silva (and that still holds true - let's see where we stand after these last six matches, though the current signs are very, very encouraging).Only disappointment was that we didn't win by 4 or 5, though honestly? After the Newcastle debacle, I think seeing out a 2-0 road win with a minimum of fuss in the second half probably meant a lot more psychologically. Andy Crooks 82 Posted 30/03/2019 at 00:02:48 Peter Gorman, yes it was a really fine performance. Simon D, everything about DCL suggests to me that he will be top notch. He is getting a run in the side and looks better and better. He is going to be a star. Martin Berry 83 Posted 31/03/2019 at 00:06:34 Excellent performance and not before time. Andy Crooks 84 Posted 31/03/2019 at 00:08:04 Ian Lloyd @ 28. In my view, you demonstrate what being a supporter is all about. Call out the shit in defeat and rejoice in victory. No agenda, just off-the-cuff emotion. Top post. Neil Copeland 85 Posted 31/03/2019 at 00:18:00 Just got home from the game, I almost didn't bother today but so glad I did.What a class performance, all of them were very good. I would say that Bernard was MOM and was unplayable at times. Gomes back to his best, DCL continues to impress but a special mention for Michael Keane who was awesome and looked every part an England international.Marco Silva seems to be figuring it out and learning from mistakes I.e Newcastle - never looked like a repeat of that today.Feeling so positive about the remaining games and already looking forward to next season particularly if we keep Zouma and Gomes and bring in a forward.Fantastic support again today and met a couple of great lads on the train home.Well done Marco, well done blues! Aaron Price 86 Posted 31/03/2019 at 00:19:30 We have to keep Gueye. He would be very difficult to replace and is a key part of this team. Neil Copeland 87 Posted 31/03/2019 at 02:07:16 Type or paste your comment here. PLEASE capitalise initial letters of proper names and use proper grammar. No txt-speak; all-lowercase posts are likely to be deleted Neil Copeland 88 Posted 31/03/2019 at 02:09:14 Derek #30, is the planned meet open to all TWs? If so, it would great to meet some of you lot! Mark Wilson 89 Posted 31/03/2019 at 02:17:28 That first half felt like I was watching a team I'd never seen before. Fast going forward, excellent clever pass and move. There was shape, organisation, determination and some silky football. Weird.Second half not so great but solid and never looked like losing the lead. Defensively better. Kept that shape. Makes me think we may have a chance against Arsenal. Did I mention weird ?The first half made you think. What if DCL had a top notch ball playing striker alongside him? What if DCL Could finish ? MOTD later kept talking about DCL and his strong performance and about him “learning to finish†? Can you really learn to finish at this level ? I'm not sure at 22 that the ever willing DCL has lots of learning time. We've needed a true finisher for several years and I guess it's true that DCL might improve his timing which seems to be the reason he snatches at chances and rushes his shots. But this inate ability to cool finish off chances is something that is hard to find and it's why the 25 goal,a season guys are worth £100m now. If only we had one at Everton .oh wait, we did, sold him with two years on his contract, cheaply, and without a clue how to replace those goals. Not DCL's fault of course but if the lad could deliver even close to 15 or so a year we'd be on the way with that attacking three or four. If the club looks at today's performance, and the Chelsea win, there's a glimmer of hope from a dire season. It's a horribly tough gig in the summer window. Should we spend £70m trying to keep Gomes and Zouma ? If we do then we'd have to see £50m raised from sales and I can't see that happening else the other four new players we need, two forwards, one centre back, one Gana backup won't happen.Still, what a nice Saturday. And at last a decent return for our amazing away fans. Fran Mitchell 90 Posted 31/03/2019 at 02:19:37 Simon Dalzell ?????The lad is 21/22 and is getting better and better every game he starts. Good hold up play, big and strong whilst quick - a defenders nightmare. But for a top save he would have scored today, and his flick from the rebound to set up Siggy was a sign of a player with skill and improving confidence.Next season he'll be a 15-20 goal striker, and probably will be so for the next 10 years. He will almost certainly be an England international.Most improved player of the season, and could well save us 40-50 million in transfer fees. John Boon 91 Posted 31/03/2019 at 02:34:37 After watching Man C in the morning I was thinking how relaxing it was to watch a team play good football. Mind you we were reminded that they were only playing Fulham. Three hours later I saw my beloved Everton play even better than City. We were also reminded that West Ham were really bad. However we MADE them look bad and, without a doubt, West Ham are definitely better than Fulham.Too early to make any definite judgements but we actually looked like a very good team. People are too quick to pick a man of the match. We are a team, played like a team and the whole team were "Men of the Match". Every Everton player was more than a match for their West Ham counterpart. Except for Pickford who was outmatched by Fabianski who prevented us from putting in six. This is not a criticism of Pickford who literally had nothing to do but act as a very happy spectator.Do the same to Arsenal next Sunday .Please. Derek Knox 92 Posted 31/03/2019 at 03:21:38 Neil @88, of course the get-together after the Man U home game 21st April is open for anyone to attend. I will post again after I have spoken with the Manager of the establishment in which I hope to reserve some space and seating.The last one was really good but we had to stand in a very busy pub with pint in hand, for the most part, until eventually we all managed to be able to sit down as a group, relax and exchange stories etc.It's an early kick-off too which should not present too many problems regarding time, obviously some won't be able to attend for whatever reason, I understand and appreciate that, but all are welcome, thanks for your interest. Ernie Baywood 93 Posted 31/03/2019 at 03:26:58 It was great to see, but let's not get too carried away on Marco.That team is expensively assembled. We should expect some performances out of them.Despite the fact that it's a good team, full of good players, in the formation that suits them best... we all know what would have happened if West Ham had scored.If they'd scored the first goal we would have abandoned the shape to have more attackers.If West Ham had pulled one back we would have abandoned the shape to have more defenders.Enjoy the moment.PS. That Seamus Coleman looks a good player. Where's he been? Harry Hockley 94 Posted 31/03/2019 at 04:07:30 Well Marco mastered this one perfectly, who knows maybe his more than just a Colin Farell look-alike. I stuck by him all season saying simply give him time, until Newcastle away. It was there I lost hope, as most did I think. We're on a run now with two very good results against good teams. Marco is here for the foreseeable future as time will prove. Terry White 95 Posted 31/03/2019 at 04:10:45 Derek (#92), 21st April is, of Course, Easter Sunday. There may well be some people who otherwise would like to attend the gathering who will, quite properly, want to spend time with their families. Derek Knox 96 Posted 31/03/2019 at 04:59:47 Terry @95, I do realise that of course, but as I indicated in my post re- Neil, there will always be a time that is inconvenient for someone, but having said that, I hope with this being the third such event, that we can have them fairly regularly. By that I mean every 6 months or so, it is unfortunate that the date does fall in with Easter Sunday, but I thought with it being a home game and early kick-off, it would give a better opportunity to get more TW's to attend. Bob Parrington 97 Posted 31/03/2019 at 05:39:15 Only managed to see the 20 minutes highlights on the Everton website so far but looked an excellent performance all round. So this team can play!!!âœ”ï¸ Mike Gaynes 98 Posted 31/03/2019 at 06:54:00 Derek, congrats on pulling the lads together again. Guaranteed to be a wonderful evening. Buy everybody a round and send me the bill. Make it two.And don't be surprised if I come strolling in the door at some point. My wife wants to "move house", as you folks would say it, and by mid-April I'm gonna want to be 5000 miles away. Darryl Ritchie 99 Posted 31/03/2019 at 06:55:30 That's the first time I've seen an Everton team play well for a full 90 minutes in years. Nice to be the “whipper†instead of the “whippedâ€, for a change. Everybody had an outstanding match...except for maybe Pickford...but then he didn't have to, did he. Naw, just kidding. He played well. He was just bored, that's all. Ian Lloyd 100 Posted 31/03/2019 at 07:13:13 Andy (84) cheers palYou are right it is pure emotion and wanting Everton to do well, simple as that!That performance last night is what the fans want to see - I know it won't be every game as better teams will counteract it etc but the commitment from the players and manager has to be like last night every game, win lose or draw Derek Knox 101 Posted 31/03/2019 at 07:25:37 Thanks Mike Gaynes for your complimentary words, and offer of paying, which I pre-empted and told the Manager to make it a free bar, and of course too, to send you the tab. You know you would be more than welcome to arrive unexpectedly, which would give the members who haven't met you, the chance to meet a really nice guy and a good Blue, plus it would save the Manager the price of a stamp for your bill. :-)Might have to put the house move on hold!Hope you enjoyed that performance yesterday Mike, I had to keep re-adjusting my set, thinking I had the wrong match, but that's what Evertonians want, 100% commitment throughout, more often than not it will result in victory. Ruing the points we have squandered this season, we could easily have been where Spurs are now or better. Still, I suppose better late than never. Brian Porter 102 Posted 31/03/2019 at 07:31:26 At last, a 90 minute performance we can be proud of. Made up for the team and especially for Bernard with his first Premier League goal, and a mom performance. Twice during the first half I asked my wife to pinch me. Is this Everton I asked. I thought it was Barcelona in disguise.Definitely our best performance of a miserable season. Let's not get carried away though. Silva might have found his best eleven but I'm yet to be convinced he can get the same tune out of them every week. I hope he can and that performance becomes the rule and not the exception. I might even start to like him. Steve Brown 103 Posted 31/03/2019 at 07:34:43 What I liked was the sheer hard work to good effect from the entire team. They worked effectively to a good game plan and made it very difficult for WHU to play their game.The transitions that Marco loves were excellent, interchanges calm and effective and speed of counter-attacks impressive. That's the standard now lads. If we can improve the final ball we have the making of a good team with a summer clear out and 3-4 quality signings. Steve Brown 104 Posted 31/03/2019 at 07:43:36 Bernard MOM for me, closely followed by Gomes. But fair play to Richarlison- I have never seen him work so hard in a game. Darren Hind 105 Posted 31/03/2019 at 07:49:16 A few observations.It would be ridiculously premature to say we have turned a corner, but the football we saw yesterday was better than any of the zombie stuff served up by previous managers. Its been a long time coming, but you don't play good football by accident.DCL is making complete mugs of those who write off younger players so readily. He's been written off as "championship at best" but this guy has a little more about him. He aint never going to be an Aguero, but he is already a very fine line leader and will only get better. Dont be surprised to see a cheeky low bid from one of the big boys trying to get him on the cheap before he is fully developed.Bernard is beginning to make a mug of me. I thought he was too lightweight and too inconsistent. If he keeps this up. I'll be eating my words tooI still wont be convinced we have turned any corners until I see our centre halves defend consistently against teams who will bombard us with ale house balls.I'll take this at the moment. All-to-rare back to back victories playing very nice football already has me dreaming about three on the bounce . . I wouldnt have said that at Chrimbo Peter Mills 106 Posted 31/03/2019 at 08:14:03 There was a brief moment half way through the 2nd half when I thought to myself “I wouldn't mind West Ham scoring, just to see how we copeâ€. I can only put it down to mild delirium brought on by a fine performance, a day spent in the sun, and a few San Miguels. Rob Dolby 107 Posted 31/03/2019 at 08:18:26 Great away performance, made up for the lads who travel each week to watch us put on a show like that.We looked like a team for 90 mins with everyone contributing. The trick now is to try and keep the same level of performance up against Arsenal.The home Derby performance seems to have given the whole team a bit of a boost. Let's hope we can carry on that momentum. Steve Croston 108 Posted 31/03/2019 at 08:38:45 An excellent defensive display too... Our fourth clean sheet in the last 5 games. Apart from the complete brain fart against the barcodes, we've looked very, very solid. Big mention to Keane, who I think is gonna be the dominant, commanding centre back we've been craving for years. Hope we can keep Gomes and Gueye, who beasted WH yesterday. Very happy guy here today... Now, if Spurs could get something today too, what a weekend it will have been... Tony Abrahams 109 Posted 31/03/2019 at 09:12:39 Stay off the San Miguel, if that's what it does to you Peter, because it's still a bit too early for this team to be conceding goals after dominating the opposition just yet!Echo what everyone who has mentioned the away fans has said, because it would have been easy to give yesterday's game a little swerve, but “the travelling blue army†are what Everton Football Club, should always be about, and it's probably why we've played more top flight football than any other club in England, so I'm made up for the them! Eddie Dunn 110 Posted 31/03/2019 at 09:17:04 When we played the Irons at Goodison, we were undone by the skills of Anderson and Yarmolenko. They looked much better than us on that occasion. Yesterday we dominated a game for the full 90, for the first time in many years.Bernard raced at them at every opportunity and with Richarlison charging down the other side and the pacey DCL also joining in, the big Hammer defenders were caught out again and again.The studio at BT, messers Hoddle and Hargreaves along with Jake Humphreys seemed taken aback, -perhaps in rehearsal, they had scripted a tight affair with those lovable cokneys nicking it late on.In fairness, we did get some praise from the mogodon three but delivered with little enthusiasm.Silva does seem to be getting his team to play to his orders and we look totally transformed from the patchy outfit of a few weeks ago.However, it wasn't so long ago that we self-destructed at Newcastle and if Anderson and Yarmolenko had been coming at us, we wouldn't have seen our fullbacks getting up to support with such freedom.Arsenal at home will be a good marker for our quality.The only small blot on an almost perfect outing, for me, was the performance of Siggi, who I like very much and I have defended on here many times.He put in his usual hard graft but didn't seem to know where to play. He was sometimes just in the way, and his passing was a little off.A minor quibble .DCL has obviously read the comments on here and has been in the gym, putting on 7 pounds of muscle and is now such a handfull, going up for lots of aerial challenges and scaring defenders with his pace. Quicker than Kane and probably far better than Kane at the same age. We don't need to break the bank on another striker after all. Tony Hill 111 Posted 31/03/2019 at 09:23:02 We have much better players than last season, of course. Patience and quality are starting to show fruit. Geoff Lambert 112 Posted 31/03/2019 at 09:33:41 If only we had a decent striker who could get 15 or 20 goals a season I think we might have a chance to be up there playing like that. DCL for all his huff and puff Is not a natural goal scorer at this level with zero composure in front of goal. The annoying thing is how can the same team be so bad and so good in a matter of weeks?Bernard looking like he is getting to grips with the prem, and a great performance all round.Arsenal next, Lets see which Everton turn up on the day. Neil Copeland 113 Posted 31/03/2019 at 09:40:28 Derek #92, cheers sounds great. I will keep a check for more info on here. Martin Mason 114 Posted 31/03/2019 at 09:42:06 Losing Zouma, Gana and Gomes would be a disaster the way they are playing. Ian Bennett 115 Posted 31/03/2019 at 09:53:39 Best away performance in years. West Ham were dreadful to be fair, and the only grumble is that Everton didn't score more. The side looked balanced, and with genuine pace and movement up front bought space for a decent midfield.Gueye and Gomes were outstanding, with loads of support from Coleman, Digne, Sigurdsson, Bernard and Richarlison. Sam Hoare 116 Posted 31/03/2019 at 10:04:36 Goalscoring forwards who can also stretch defenses, hold the ball up and work hard for the team are very hard to find. Finished articles of that ilk will cost £60m+ and need CL football.Perhaps Brands could find a younger, raw version but whoever it is will likely be inconsistent, flawed in some way. A little like DCL perhaps. I think he already has a lot of the elements and that his finishing and composure will improve with more goals and more time. I don't know if he will make it to top class but he's one of the better young strikers out there currently.We still need another striker as I'm not convinced Tosun will be good enough without a run of starts that we can't give him. The question may be what type of second striker should we have. A similar type to DCL? A more physical player? Better finisher? Young or more experienced? I'd be tempted by Giroud on a free, hes got a season or two left and always gets goals even off the bench. Tony Abrahams 117 Posted 31/03/2019 at 10:13:19 Lewin, is doing well and I think he made a lot of sprints during yesterday's game. Can't remember the exact stat, but I reckon it would definitely take Romelu, at least 3 games to achieve this, but Lukaku, gave us goals, and they are the thing that win you football matches.You only really improve when you are playing though, and if Lewin can start adding a few more goals into his game, who knows? The kid might even end up being the complete centre-forward. Trevor Peers 118 Posted 31/03/2019 at 10:16:35 Silva deserves credit for sparking a revival, since that enforced 3 week break we have played with some much needed fight and style. It's probably guaranteed his position as manager for next season, so well done Marco.As Geoff said @112, we just need a 15 to 30 goal striker to stand any chance of competing with the top 6. DCL has worked tirelessly but is he a natural goalscorer ? Time will tell, but the priority must still be to buy an experienced striker in the summer. Getting rid of all the deadwood players, out on loan, should easily free up the money to provide the funds Neil Copeland 119 Posted 31/03/2019 at 10:37:31 Sam #116, I think Giroud is a decent shout although his missus may have other ideas. If he did come, DCL would, I am sure, benefit from his experience . Maybe that move would also buy time to either bring in a younger developing forward and/or further develop young Hornby and Simms. Justin Doone 120 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:10:51 It was an excellent performance and win and I said on another thread DCL needs to be hitting the target if not scoring. Some of those shots were woeful.But his running, link up play and all round game is pleasing to see. He's without doubt benefitted from a good run of games. Forwards run forward. Quick incisive passing. Make the opposition retreat. Allow us to push up and support. Stop all of this passing back to the keeper nonsense just to retain possession because that's when things go wrong.Unfair to compare anyone to Kane who has proven to be a top class striker. He can shoot with power with either foot and 90% of shots are on target. That's great ability not many forwards have. But yes DCL needs much more practice to improve that aspect of his game. I believe he will improve along with his heading. Geoff Trenner 121 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:17:49 Interesting that MotD focused on DCLs performance. He played well, apart from his wayward shooting, but I would have thought Gana, Gomez or Richardson were more worthy of the attention! Jerome Shields 122 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:22:09 Calvert-Lewin is a very young player. Last Summer, he worked a lot harder to improve, than players that older than him. He has emerged due to his hard work as the first-choice centre-forward and has adapted well to the Silva system. This system demands that a player fulfills a dual role. It is unlikely that a player can be bought in that can fulfill such a centre-forward role. I doubt an available Lukaku would be on M&M‘s shopping list! Calvert-Lewin can improve on his finishing. He is not the only player that needs too and can. Silva's system is dependent on self-motivated, where the player evolves into his role within the system. Silva has quietly persisted with his system and, at last, the players are getting up to speed. Silva has made mistakes, but his objectives are being realised. There is no way he will not see out his contract. West Ham are a good footballing side, but they were up against a relentless Everton playing at a different level. Pellegrini looked like a Manager who knew he was up against it. All that I know is that performance was the best that I have seen since the 1980s and they look like a side that could improve. John McFarlane Snr 123 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:22:12 Hi Derek [96] following our phone conversation, I have given some thought to future get-togethers, as you rightly point out, no matter what date or meeting place, there are bound to be people who cannot attend. I hope I don't come across as some smug egotistical character, but the first gathering, for my 80th birthday, was for me to thank 'ToffeeWebbers' for their kind comments following my seven week stay in Southport hospital, that meeting was held on the day of the World Cup Final, but eight people took the time to attend.Like yourself, I too hoped that we could make these meetings regular events and I don't see why we can't, my thoughts are that we could have a June gathering to discuss post-season achievements (or lack of), and pre-season hopes/expectations, and a mid-season meeting to discuss all things Everton. Perhaps you may give me a ring to tell me what your thoughts are on my suggestions. Frank Crewe 124 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:31:55 We are not going to acquire a 20+ goals a season striker without considerable outlay. £50/60 million starting price. We have to consider how much we will have to fork out to keep Gomes and Zouma, assuming their clubs will part with them. There is nothing wrong with DCL that better finishing won't cure. Making him first choice appears to be improving his hold up play and movement and I'm sure his finishing will improve between now and next season as well. Also we have a forward we are yet to see. Henry Onyekuru is still our player. But how do we actually get him here?As I said our priority for next season must be getting Zouma and Gomes signed up permanently. Until Mina's injuries settle down he simply isn't reliable and I doubt there is a better CM player than Gomes currently available. Should Barca be prepared to let him go I'm sure we'll have a lot of competition for his services. There's also the problem of hanging onto Gueye. I'm sure PSG will back in for him in the summer.I also think we need cover for Digne and Coleman as Baines isn't getting any younger and I don't think Kenny is really good enough.Then there's the problem of unloading the loaned out deadwood that is still taking up our wage bill.All in all Silva still has a lot to do to get the club into a position were we can make a serious challenge for the top six never mind the top four. So I think fantasising about a 20+ striker will have to wait for another season. Steve Ferns 125 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:46:22 Just a small point on Calvert-Lewin. I think composure is linked to confidence and experience. Sure, superb young kids like Cottee have it at the age of 17, but others develop it over time. Calvert-Lewin can develop his composure for sure. As for his finishing, he's already proved that with the goals he's scored this season, last season, and for England and Everton under age groups. The goals will come in abundance, I'm certain of that. His goals per minute ratio is very favourable and that's an indicator of his finishing as is his goals to shots ratio. It's just that composure he needs to develop and I think he will, with experience.Silva's not going to waste time on Calvert-Lewin, nor Brands. If they don't think he's good enough, why would they? They'll lose their jobs if they do. He'll come good. He's always just needed games, and as he's getting games, he's improving before your eyes. The goals have started to come, at a trickle, and that can turn into a flood soon enough. Don't forget he's likely to work hard over the summer and come back even better. We all know he's a worker. Tony Hill 126 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:46:32 Could Lookman be turned into a striker, perhaps. James Hughes 127 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:46:38 DCL had decent game, seems to be improving each week. A better forward will want Champions league and we can't offer that. Gomes also looking like the player he was. And little Bernie is class IMO. Let's see what team turns up next week Brian Harrison 128 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:49:23 Yesterday we saw a glimpse of how Marco Silva wants us to play, high pressing and attacking with pace. I would suggest that when they all arrive at Finch Farm on Monday, he tells them that on Saturday they set the bench mark for how he expects them to play. Confidence plays such a massive part in any sport and the win against Chelsea followed up by the win yesterday will have put back a lot of the confidence we seem to have lacked since the derby game.But no team plays at the top of their game all the time, but you can still expect a better level of consistency than we have seen especially in December. So that now is the test can this team play with the same passion they showed yesterday, with the same work rate. I am sure Silva will be looking for that consistency in the remaining games. Derek Knox 129 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:49:33 Frank @124, some good points you make there regarding the strikers role and reinforcements in other positions. There are so many variables to consider like you say, will PSG come back in for Gana, will he still want to leave?Then there's the Onyekuru situation, will we get a work permit for the lad, does he want to come, (although technically he is still our player) or will another Club (Bayern Munich) make us an offer we can't refuse?Whatever happens Frank, I don't envisage many incomings, unless we can offload some, (or Marcel Brands can work some magic) we hope. Trevor Peers 130 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:50:23 I'm sure Rondon, the media favourite to join us, would manage 15 goals in the present set up. If we are truly skint then he would be better than no one at all. Tosun looks a certainty to leave in the summer. Christopher Timmins 131 Posted 31/03/2019 at 11:59:53 I have to say that yesterday was a good follow up to the second half against Chelsea. If we could play close to that level for 30 games a season then we would a 70 point plus team.We have 6 games still to play, 3 against the top 6 so there is plenty of opportunity to show that finally things are starting to go in the right direction. Let's not get too carried away just yet but hopefully, in 6 games time we can say that the last 1/4 of the season showed an upward trend.On yesterday's evidence West Ham should have stuck with Moyes as the fortunes spent by the current manager do not seem to be having the desired impact. Rob Halligan 132 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:12:18 I hope West ham get relegated next season. £5.10 for a bottle of Heinekin (not even a pint) inside the London stadium is disgusting!! At least outside at the beers stalls you could get a decent pint of Amstel for £5.15. Me and John Raftery were talking to a couple of West ham fans with our pint of Amstel, and they are still not impressed with the London stadium, saying exactly what I've thought on our previous visits there, that the place does lack atmosphere and the pitch is too far from the stands. Overall, a great day out. As most are saying it could easily have been 4 or 5. How Richarlison hit the bar with his header I don't know? for me, Gomes and Gueye were probably our best two players, but really everyone played really well. Made that tedious coach journey back home almost bearable. Only joking about West ham getting relegated by the way. I've always enjoyed our games down there and the hammers fans are really great. Jack Convery 133 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:17:59 Just watched the highlights on MOTD I Player - special performance away from home and for most of the 90 minutes too. Well done Blues / Marco - now go and get the gooners - we owe them a hammering. COYBs !!!!!! David Hallwood 134 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:26:17 Gents, I keeping posting the same point, but the reason why we're inconsistent is that this is a new team; take Coleman & Gana away and everyone else arrived here last season or this season.That's why I got so pissed off with calls for Silva's head; what would that achieve? yet more disruption, players in, players out. I know its difficult to be objective as a football fan, but bigger picture and all that.Apart from that, great performance and looking forward to the Arse next week. to get our second top 6 scalp. Steven Jones 135 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:28:28 The running in behind which acted like triggers for the person on the ball was stand out for me. DCL, Richi, Coleman doing that really well.The charge of the light brigade approach a la City/Shite gave the player on the ball options and time to run with the ball and lay off simple passes in behind.The well timed runs do take a long time to instill consistently in a group of players. The patterns of play are now obvious to break the lines of the opponents.For me - always the optimist thought it would take time and we need to be patient.However I am so looking forward to the pre-season with one season behind him and a group of players he has been working with for months now.Whoever brands adds to this will have a clear picture of what is expected and how to fir in with Silva's style of play.Loving it!! Neil Copeland 136 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:30:05 Rob #132, glad it wasn't only me that paid £5.10 for the Heiniken.I was talking to a fire steward at half time (Arsenal fan), and he said pretty much the same thing about the stadium. Shame because it would be expensive to try and bring the fans closer to the pitch now. Derek Knox 137 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:31:21 Rob @132, I am pretty sure I saw john Raftery on the 20 minute highlights via Everton TV, it was only a glimpse though. You mention the ridiculous rip-off prices they charge in these places, it's exploitation, pure and simple, where else can you go?I have also heard like you mention the problems with that stadium, apart from the costs, it has parity with the Moon, in lacking an atmosphere. The West Ham fans like you say are diamond geezers. Sam Hoare 138 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:33:59 Yes Christopher @131 Around the turn of the year many on here were slating Silva and suggesting we should have got Pellegrini, even when we were only a point or two behind them.If Silva gets it right then we will be very good indeed and we'll be lucky to keep hold of him. He's not done that consistently this season yet but still the possible upside with Silva was and is far greater.I think yesterday could arguably rank as our best 90 minutes in 2 years. I hope and believe there will be more where that came from. Jeff Armstrong 139 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:34:57 Just watching the old firm derby,that Celtic lad Eduard, up top, looks tasty, and the fair haired centre half for the hoops looks like he can come out of defence well and play a bit.I know it's Scottish football but a few good players have come from these 2 over the years. Rob Halligan 140 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:36:12 Derek, you might well have seen John, as he was on row 3 on the lower tier. We were halfway up on the upper tier and it seems like miles away from the pitch. Gaute Lie 141 Posted 31/03/2019 at 12:57:04 A good game! It makes me wonder if Silva perhaps IS the man for us after all? For sure he is an enigma so far, With some games looking like a sure way of him not being at Everton next season. Now it looks like something has happened, that he has gotten a good hand on the steering wheel, and is in control. Perhaps we don't have to look for yet another manager. What a relief that would be!Schneiderlin not on the bench was weird. I believe he has bettered himself somewhat so perhaps he is injured? He will be gone in the summer, for sure, and, as the limited player he is, he will not be missed much, or remembered in a couple of years. Very pleased for Bernard's goal, and also for the fact he played for the full 90 min+, as it shows he's up to the Premier League's standards physically.Beating West Ham away is not easy, and they have a good team and an experienced manager. So this was a positive one all over. Jon Withey 142 Posted 31/03/2019 at 13:08:05 Nice to see a positive thread. I had West Ham down for a win, so glad to eat my words.Let's hope they can keep it up for the remaining 6 (?) games.It would be a very decent turnaround if they managed to nick 7th.Credit to Keane, DCL, Coleman and Pickford for finding some steady form. Credit to Richarlison for rediscovering his. Jon Withey 143 Posted 31/03/2019 at 13:09:56 Looks like us V Leicester on recent form. Dan Parker 144 Posted 31/03/2019 at 13:44:28 Outstanding. The first half hour was sub-lime. Still much the unfinished project but the signs are very encouraging. Hopefully secure Zouma and Gomes permanently Rob Marsh 145 Posted 31/03/2019 at 14:49:31 Leicester can have the Euro place, I'd rather we concentrate on the prem and domestic cups without any distractions.We will be letting go of a lot of players in a few months (hopefully?) and I doubt Mr Moshiri willl want to spend another £250m and so I don't think we'll have the squad to cope.One of the domestic cups and a decent prem placing would do the club much more good than a euro gamble. Jay Wood[BRZ] 146 Posted 31/03/2019 at 14:57:44 So...who's still buzzing after that performance yesterday and scouring the internet for highlights to watch over, or watching a recorded replay of the game?THAT's the Everton I'm sure most Blues crave. You cannot fault a single player for their quality or application yesterday. Yes, you can nit-pick and say not every pass came off, that the wrong option was chosen in some situations, that we could and should have scored more goals with better finishing. But, to use a Koemanism, 'that's football'.The way we played yesterday would be a match for any team in the league.There have been glimpses of yesterday's performance for spells during games, particularly in the run of games before the Analfield derby.What has been absent was maintaining such scintillating football and good game management over 90 minutes of a single game, never mind over a string of games.In the last 5 games since Cardiff away, increasingly, the players and the manager are showing greater consistency. But even in those games, there have been wild oscillations. Cardiff was a wee bit bumpy early on, but once ahead we took total control of the game. Scoring 3 goals away to any PL opposition is not to be sniffed at.Home to 'them', we went toe-to-toe, joined City and United as the only teams to deny them a goal this season and by the end of the game we were the team looking most likely to score.Away to Newcastle, another dominant first half and in total control for an hour before the manager got it all wrong with his subs and we had a dreadful brain fart, conceding 3 goals in 20 chaotic minutes - the only goals we've suffered in this 5 game run.That collapse of form continued into the opening half of the home game vs Chelsea. We were lucky to go in 0-0. The transformation in the 2nd half was total.To that we can add yesterday's game, our standout performance of the season.Taking the above - and the season as a whole into consideration - I personally won't be totally exonerating either the manager or the players just yet.I've always believed we have a lot of good quality players at Everton. It's puzzled me how too often they haven't demonstrated that on the pitch. I've questioned their application and stomach for the fight when the going gets tough.I've never called for the manager's head, although I've held reservations about him, specifically on his defensive record in the PL and his ability to turn a side around when they hit a barren run. I have at times been bewildered at his 'school yard substitutions' in some games when we went behind, sacrificing all balance and shape to the team and throwing on a mish-mash of attacking players. Not once did that strategy work out and salvage the game.Nor could I understand his persistence with the Richarlison as #9 strategy, together with selecting virtually an unchanged starting XI every game during our most barren spell in the fixture congested months of December and January.So as good as yesterday was, it's only two weeks and a game and a half ago the same players played like rabbits caught in headlights against Chelsea; that Gomes was so hapless it was a mercy for him to be substituted.It's only two and a half games ago we witnessed the demoralising 20-minute capitulation against the barcodes.The standard was set yesterday, for both manager and players.It's their duty now to maintain that, not only to the end of this season, but also going into the next. Ciarán McGlone 147 Posted 31/03/2019 at 14:58:48 Got to give credit to Silva. Picked our best eleven and made the best substitutions possible.Finally, a bit of enjoyment. Harry Hockley 148 Posted 31/03/2019 at 14:59:37 Geoff #121 Shearer and his cronies are terribly biased towards English players. It's a bit embarrassing, Wrighty's always at it too. Ian Bennett 149 Posted 31/03/2019 at 15:14:38 What was really nice yesterday was the combinations. Bernard and Digne looked like Baines and Pienaar on the left, whilst Coleman and Richarlison really complemented each other on the right. Both fullbacks like to overlap, and both wingers like to come inside.Throw in a willing runner upfront, it gives Sigurdsson and Gomes the space to pick a pass. Add in Gueye to buzz around for the scraps and you've got a balanced team.So what does that tell you. Stick with that sort of side, and sign players that fit the brief. Shrink the squad in numbers, and aim for class. I'd far rather see 16-17 real stronger first teamers, and supplement with hungry kids. Jay Wood[BRZ] 150 Posted 31/03/2019 at 15:20:07 Ian @ 149.Agreed. And not only pairs, but triples at times as well.It's what good coaches strive to do: create partnerships throughout the team, which in turn dovetail with other partnerships across the whole park.When it all comes together...LIFT OFF!!! Ian Hams 151 Posted 31/03/2019 at 15:25:50 So in assessing have we improved this season. We have so far scored 1 more than in last seaon in total, had 15 more shots on target, conceeded 42 last seasons total was 58, and had the same number of clean sheets 10. Yes we have been shit at times but its getting better and we were far more shit last year . Brian Murray 152 Posted 31/03/2019 at 15:38:09 Another bright new dawn? We are all a bit Choca with this dawn floozy promising all kinds . Maybe, just maybe we are on to something! Still need a serious competitor for Pickford if Virginia is not quite ready. It's looking promising even if we can't secure these loan deals. Robert Workman 153 Posted 31/03/2019 at 16:55:28 Probably the most comfortable victory of the season, but I am still left with one regret - the scoreline. While 0-2 looks like a solid away win, we all know that it was much more than that. 0-4 or 0-5 would have really made a statement. It would also have improved our goal difference, which is already the best of those teams in our group of 7th to 12th.I believe that if we had a natural goalscorer we could have made the scoreline reflect more accurately our overall superiority throughout the match. Of course Fabianski, one of the best goalies around, also played his part in keeping the score down. Simon Dalzell 154 Posted 31/03/2019 at 17:48:18 Fran #90 . Hope your right .I reckon I was too harsh, but I really do think he will never be top drawer. Karen Mason 155 Posted 31/03/2019 at 18:07:34 I watched the game, then the highlights on MOTD. Did my ears deceive me, or did I hear Alan ( personality bypass) Shearer say 'Everton were magnificent' ???? !! OMG. Who would have thought that Everton and the word 'magnificent' would be expressed in the same sentence, by one of those 'all knowing' pundits? My word, maybe times are a -changin'. For those still debating whether this performance was just a flash in the pan - Just enjoy the moment. As a Bluenose, you deserve it. :-) Ivan Varghese 156 Posted 01/04/2019 at 02:30:27 DCL is turning into a good intelligent striker. Less zonal marking and the defense played well. Silva needs time and it would be a good team, possibly next season. Amazing to watch. Steve Solomon 157 Posted 01/04/2019 at 10:29:47 A really encouraging performance after the doom and gloom of the mid-season. I am one of those that has supported Silva's plan and believe that given time he will succeed at Everton. I did have a moment or two of doubt when we lost to Millwall but that passed quickly after the Goodison Derby.One thing I did notice from the WHU game was DCL's lack of composure in front of goal. Obviously he is young but emerging talent should be on the bench until they improve. With Fulham likely to be relegated I would love to see Mitrovic fill that spot.Well done boys, a great win. Russell Smith 158 Posted 01/04/2019 at 11:31:09 Has anyone noticed that over the past five games when we are not in possession that the discipline of all the players has markedly improved. We look like two banks of four with both Bernard and Richarlison dropping back into wide midfield which is taking the pressure off both Gomes and Gueye. Earlier in the season we looked porous because both central midfielders were constantly having to move out wider to assist, or in some cases replace, the exposed or over-committed full backs, leaving the centre of the field too open. Gilfyi will always be a much more advanced attacking midfielder, and his role hasn't changed, but on Saturday as well as doing his usual closing down from the front he was able to link up better with Gomes, Gueye, Richarlison and Bernard because they were all breaking forward from their "defensive" positions and were able to run onto passes played into space, rather than in earlier games where he was passing to the feet of these players who were still running back towards our goal because they had all been caught too high up the pitch when we lost the ball. Kevin Prytherch 159 Posted 01/04/2019 at 11:57:48 Russell 158 - I've noticed the exact same (post 53). It's a massive difference and it allows us to play Sigurdsson in the role he plays without compromising the rest of the team.I've spoke out about Sigurdsson not fitting into the 4-2-3-1 formation we were playing around Christmas time, however when we have 2 wide players who know their defensive responsibilities and drop back into a midfield 4, Sigurdsson suddenly becomes a very important player.I can't see Walcott or Lookman getting a sniff until the defensive side of their game improves dramatically. Dave Ganley 160 Posted 01/04/2019 at 12:13:18 Another good win. I am so glad Silva hasn't let the season fade and die. It was very important to me that Silva recognises flaws in what he was doing and starts to rectify before the season ends and put in solid building blocks for next season. It is still very early days but since the debacle at Newcastle he does, at last appear to be learning from his and the teams mistakes. It's very pleasing that for the last couple of weeks we have all been here on TW extolling the team instead of slamming them. Makes a pleasant change. I'm really looking forward to the Arse on Sunday. Keep it up blues Russell Smith 161 Posted 01/04/2019 at 12:16:14 Kevin (159)Apologies I hadn't scrolled up as far as your comment at 53 so I basically repeated the same thing.Still we both are seeing the same improvements. This style is exactly how the team of '85 set up with both Sheedy and Steven dropping deeper when we didn't have the ball, and Heath being the link up man when we won the ball back.If the remainder of the squad players who have to come in when injury/suspensions occur can play with the same intensity and organisation then we might just have the makings of the team/squad we all desire. Michael Stevenson 162 Posted 01/04/2019 at 13:07:30 It's a long time since I've come away from the match and the only disappointment was knowing that we should have won by a much bigger margin. 4-0, 5-0 would not have been unjust on WHU there. Not wanting to mention a negative but that does bring us back to the perennial striker question Altogether a great performance though and nice to hear the fans in good voice. It was a really eerie atmosphere first 20 minutes or so of second half I thought. West Ham never made a peep for the whole game and we were quite quiet after half time too. You could sense a nervousness as we (blues) know all too well how fragile a lead can be despite our total dominance to that point. As the match wore on though we got more confident and the crowd piped up again with some great away support. West Ham fans started leaving as early as 70 minutes which I found quite bizarre. Will take that as a compliment I guess :-) John Malone 163 Posted 01/04/2019 at 14:56:11 Don't know if anyone's mentioned it already but there's no coincedence in the fact we've played a lot more direct since the derby.It's helped Pickford not having to think about playing out from the back and helped us as a team.Hopefully Silva has identified this fact and really does know what he is doing after all.That last match was by far our best performance under Silva and a very mature one by Richarlison who has been a lot better since playing on the right. Rob Halligan 164 Posted 01/04/2019 at 15:12:09 Playing three of the so called big six, Arsenal, man Utd and spurs, in our last six games, could help us to prepare for pre season. Three tough games such as these, will help keep the team focused and maintain recent standards. Better to be playing these three than the likes of any teams around us in the table. We don't want to be steam rollered by any of these three, not that I think we will, but three good performances, and hopefully results, will give the team confidence going into next season, knowing we can compete with these so called big six teams. David Connor 165 Posted 01/04/2019 at 15:37:03 Great win. Keep it up till the end of the season and who knows we could be in Europe. Then we can put a disappointing season behind us.Get rid of as much dead wood as we can. Get some better quality players in early doors in the summer and go again next season. COYB Tom Bowers 166 Posted 01/04/2019 at 15:38:50 Silva is fighting for his job as most managers are when the team struggles despite big money signings although Everton's big buys pale by comparison to what City and RS have. You only have to look at the big money signings sitting on RS's bench yesterday.Having said that Silva needs the one complete season to lay the foundation of his plans and despite many disappointing performances and results it could well be he is starting to tick.The last five games in particular has shown a better attitude and with some Spring cleaning and strengthening here and there next season could well be a lot more rewarding.We all, certainly hope so. Ivan Varghese 167 Posted 01/04/2019 at 19:22:51 Ian Bennett #149, So true. They are still playing zonal but runners are being picked up. But less of playing from the back every time they win the ball in lower mid-field, they just went forward. Next match with Arsenal is the lynch-pin to whether the team can sustain, the Gunners have high press with players adapt at winning the ball and have fast players adapt at running in free space. Having the same defensive set up may not be the correct game plan. They have the ability to run rings around Keane and Youma. I wish Yerry Mina was fit. Maybe Jag's or McCarthy's experience is needed. Martin Berry 168 Posted 02/04/2019 at 09:01:47 There is a picture of players congratulating Zouma after his goal, along with Richarlison, Gomes, Bernard and Digne, and I thought, these are all top top players, why have we not been winning more games with players like these, very strange but hopefully we are turning the corner.I certainly think having DCL as the striker rather than the failed Richarlison experiment has made a big difference.Arsenal next they played well against Newcastle and we will need to get a grip of the midfield and get at their vunerable defence. Rudi Coote 169 Posted 02/04/2019 at 13:55:40 Anyone wanting to watch the games live — Download the NavixSport app... Very good streaming, no buffering! Paul Cherrington 170 Posted 02/04/2019 at 14:59:23 I think DCL was the key as others have noted - because he ran the channels and ran in behind them. this created more space in midfield for our other attackers to exploit. having someone who runs in behind their defence is so important as it keeps them from pushing up and compacting the space too much. Mal van Schaick 171 Posted 02/04/2019 at 15:46:55 Well done. Great team performance. Impressed with the back four. Zouma is a must buy his partnership with Keane is pivotal in our recent better form. Don't want europa place, for next season it's the ruination of many a clubs season. Beat Arsenal on Sunday, have a good finish to this season, and plan for the new season. Geoff Lambert 172 Posted 02/04/2019 at 21:18:56 Same old rubbish on here Don't want Europa league!! Its a cup that we can go a long way in if we play well Might even get the chance to play some of the big European teams in the later stages, what an experience that would be. Rotate the squad and kick on if we want to be up there with the big boys we have to learn our trade in the Europa. If we can't compeat in the two competitions whats the point? Joe McMahon 173 Posted 02/04/2019 at 21:24:38 Mal, worry ye not as both Watford and wolves are winning. We won't finish 7th or 8th. Kieran Kinsella 174 Posted 02/04/2019 at 22:11:24 JoeRight. Looking at the run in we play 3 of the top six. We are four points back. I would be very surprised if we finished about either of Wolves or Watford. We will have our hands full trying to finish above West Ham, Leicester and Bournemouth. We just let too many games slip by in the middle section of the season. 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