Pereira 'expected' to be named new Everton boss

Look, he may do a good job but this is no way to run a hiring process.

I will root for Everton no matter what and hope the club doesn't become like my other childhood favorite team Liverpool City Rugby League. OTT yes, but emotions are running high.

Running the club we have Laurel and Hardy puppets with Kia Joorabchian pulling the strings. That's another fine mess. Unbelievable.

Worrying, next two songs on playlist are Can't get no satisfaction followed by 19th nervous breakdown.

How do you pick this fella ahead of Frank Lampard?

What?

The only people he needs to worry about are the players and us. If he gets them and us on side then we will be OK. That is why we all have to support him 100%.

Lets get behind him - he hasn't come for a big payout - he is on a four month contract with a potential for another year if he does what he has been hired to do.

I am backing him.

Joorabchian will be scooping up as well... and no doubt trying to fill the place with connected "Players".

Folk need to read up on this fellah. Well-renowned in England for being the third-party owner of the Argentinian players Tevez and Mascherano to WHU, he is equally well-known here in Brazil.

His MSI group 'invested' in one of Brazil's mega-clubs Corinthians in 2004 on the promise they would receive 51% of all future profits. Tevez was signed and subsequently sold to WHU. At great profit to Joorabchian, not Corinthians.

In his second season at the club, they won the title. YEH! In his fourth season in 2007 they were relegated for the one and only time in their history. Warrants for Joorabchian's and other partners arrest were issued on charges of money laundering. A charge that was only archived, not annulled, in 2014.

Such was the extent of Joorabchian's influence at the club that at the time of Corinthians' relegation (it was the equivalent of Manchester United being relegated now) the club only had five players they 'owned'. All other players were 'owned' by Joorabchian.

In the maelstrom of Everton's current self-created chaos, in the vacuum and absence of a DoF or anyone with a handle on football affairs, Moshiri has turned to his fellow countryman Kia Joorabchian as his advisor.

Whatever Joorabchian advises, you can be sure it will be to benefit him more than it will benefit Everton FC or his 'mate' Farhad Moshiri.

The entire situation at the club is deteriorating daily at an increasingly disturbing rate.

I'm starting to get uncomfortable about how all this is playing out. Hope I'm being overly suspicious and proved completely wrong.

The players need to take a long hard at themselves,they have been cheating the faithful for far too long!.

As for "connected players" well I see nothing wrong with that at all provided they are what we need. For example Allan was connected to Ancelloti.

Jay # 25 - I hope Pereira brings the next Tevez and Maschereno with him.

Who is there to advise Moshiri? Who is there to stop another crackpot gamble? Nobody really, apart from maybe Bill.

If the rest of the Board oppose Pereira alarm
bells are ringing for me….

Climbing up on Everton brow
I could see the Bramley lights.
Wind was blowing stagment still
Bullshit flew out of the night
Martinez someone to observe
Came in close I heard a voice
Playing sideways footy ball
Had to listen teary eye
I could not believe the phenomenal
Just got to trust imagination
My heart goes boom, boom, boom.
Martinez he said, grab your Brown shoes, I'm gona take you home.

I totally missed this "Rooney won't work with Ferguson" story. What's the gist?

There were several articles in 2021 investigating the insidious influence of Kia on Arsenal. Apparently Wenger refused to deal with him but, since he left, supposedly he has Edu in his pocket and is widely blamed for Arsenal's scattergun recruitment which has seen them decline while spending ever more.

As for Moshiri, seems like a King Lear type being pulled every which way until vanity and paranoia drive him into madness as various evil schemers pull the strings.

Everton fans fall into the role of Cordelia, wrongly shunned leading to tragedy for all. It's going to be weird having Saturdays free when Everton go the way of Bury.

Thanks for the clarification. A dope? Hmm... I could see that.

Quality players are one thing, at realistic prices, without the creative ownership "Models" and associated financial trickery, and insidious other moves for which that guy is renowned. Don't want any of that trash near this club. Best place for him is far, far away.

But some fella in the ale house said

Lol funny

If it is Vitor we'll have to get behind him and the team. Hang on it's going to be quite a ride.

However when this season is over, whatever the outcome, the owner and board have to go and people brought in who know how to own and run a football club.

As for this Joachim fella apparently he is of dubious character. From what I have read on here he is not the only person associated with the club who falls into that category.

Its a moral dilemma if true but it looks like the appointment of Pereira is a done deal now so what are we as football fans supposed to do? Bin this new manager before he has even taken a training session? That could only end one way.

Perhaps the moral standing of our ownership and their associates deserves a thread of its own - but that would lead us down a very big rabbit hole which I feel fairly sure would not only implicate Everton Football Club.

For the time being I am going to concentrate on what I see as our most pressing problem - premiership survival. That is why I am backing this manager.

If this appointment helps keep us in the Premier League it'll be more through luck than judgement.

I have a horrible feeling that Vitor Pereira will be added to a list of names including Felix Magath and Pepe Mel.

For me, the most depressing aspect of such an appointment would be the further confirmation of just how deep Kia Joorabchian has got his corruptive claws into the clueless and confused mooncalf who is meant to be in control of this club.

For many years, Arsene Wenger railed against the rising influence of ‘the super agent' and refused them any influence at all on Arsenals recruitment strategy. His fear was that once they got a foot through the door then you would never get the fuckers back out again and their reach would grow and grow. If only someone at Everton had heeded his words because it appears that infestation by this particular ‘intermediary' has spread rapidly from player recruitment to relegation prevention.

If the fact the shifty little fucker looks like he should be shouting “throw me the idol” at Indiana Jones wasn't already more than enough to set alarm bells ringing, then the calamitous deals ‘Kia' has previously helped broker should surely be sufficient to hammer the point home. The guy has obviously been ingratiating himself into the goings on at Everton for many years now. He was supposedly involved in the Tosun transfer, his company ‘Sports Invest UK' represented Arsenal in Alex Iwobi's £35m move to Everton, working together with Jorge Mendes he manoeuvred James from Madrid to Goodison, before having a hand in bringing the hazardous mix of Benitez and Moshiri together and most recently getting El Ghazi a loan move that nobody else seemed keen on being a goer. Now he's the man whose (hardly impartial) advice is once again being heeded in the hunt for a new manager? Fuck me.

In Moshiris current situation how does it make sense to be swayed by a man prioritising his own interests over the actual needs of any single club? What possible upside is there to indulging a man with a vested interest in power-games and whose modus operandi is proffering names purely as a favour to his many protégés? Vital football decisions boiled down to being a game of bloody ‘allies and contacts', but the vain tits in charge continue to look clueless as to why this club is currently on its knees.

I mentioned Arsenal above and they are a club who have gone from being widely respected and regarded as a good professional outfit to deal with, to one many now accuse of being awkward to conduct business with and lacking any coherent transfer approach. This change coincided with greater responsibility for recruitment being granted to a select number of ‘associates', Kia Joorabchian key amongst them. This ‘influence' in recruitment was supposedly strengthened when his good friend Edu was made technical director of the club and has since seen his fingerprints all over moves for such players as David Luiz, Willian, Cedric Soares, Martin Odegaard and more. Opening doors, greasing palms and getting shit done (and…allegedly…personally profiting to the tune of £20m plus).

Then you have the beyond dispute shit-shows he's supposedly been involved in.

West Ham/Tevez from way back, we all know about.

He's long been rumoured to be a ruinous unofficial ‘advisor' at Reading (or just a ‘personal friend' as they prefer to put it) where he's been heavily involved in facilitating players being brought in, before they promptly go on to flop… and this influence is rumoured to be such that any manager has to effectively write-off having any involvement whatsoever in player acquisition.

He's also said to have performed his favourite role of ‘unofficial advisor' at 1860 Munich, working his magic on their wealthy investor/saviour Hasan Ismaik. The fruits of this particular ‘personal friendship'? An influx of new players in the 2016/17 summer transfer window (all arranged by Joorabchian) who all proved to be piss poor, a plummet down the table, the appointment of our (and Joorabchian's) pal Vitor Pereira…who proclaimed upon his unveiling “We go to the top!”….followed by a first relegation in 13 years. Vitória Victor!

At least Ashley balances the books

John Daley,

Spot on

Darren Hind,

Says the man with supposed Finch Farm insiders who expects us all to take his word as Bible. Even though he's been more discredited than Derek Acora time and again.

Surely this was a time to get an experienced PL manager if Duncan wasn't under serious consideration? Bad enough to have to bed into the Everton shitshow, but to have to bed into the PL too with half a season left and us in dire need of points NOW?

Not like I think Lampard is the saviour or anything but at least he knows the opposition (and us) having managed in the league very recently. This appointment if true just seems like a massive gamble at the wrong time, and Moshiri has proven himself inept at gambling on football time and again since he arrived.

Steve Ferns wrote some positive stuff about Pereira on another thread, I'll have to go find it and read it again because I'm feeling seriously depressed about this.

My desperate hope is that this is one of those occasions where expectations are confounded and this fella proves to be a weird success. He'd better be.

Usmanov seems to be an even bigger fool for trusting Moshiri with his investment, the accountant, while playing dumb and acting like Mr Bean is efficiently siphoning off many millions via kick backs from all the dodgy transfer dealing. I have no evidence of any of this, but its just a gut feeling based on my experience and knowledge.

God help us !

It explains to anybody literate why "Kia" is a clear and present danger to any so-called professional club with an ounce of insight into good governance.

This is the one appointment HE needed to get spot on, HE, not Kia f#ckin Joorabchian!

This is exactly why in three years time mystic meg will tell us we will be playing Championship football and Bramley Moore Dock will be the best kids adventure playground in Liverpool.

Looking beyond what looks inevitable and something we can't control, this doesn't bode well for the proposed fan representation. I'm guessing a token effort or compliant group / members will be carefully selected.

It's simple - no footballing rationale has been considered. It has been said already but our new Director of Football is Kia Joorabchian. Moshiri has circumvented the board, we have nobody to challenge with any footballing brain left as Benitez exited all the scouts and DOF went too

What stinks is this is not based on any footballing assessment or strategy but this Joorabchian having Moshiri's ear and pushing all his clients on the club. They know each other from their Arsenal connection.

As I said on another thread and Jay said too here - look at his past. It stinks. He also had a hand in selling us Iwobi - if that doesn't set off alarm bells nothing will.

The fact Arsenal fans would have given us Iwobi and we buy him for £35m also should be concerning about how ethically that transfer money has been spent

It's ironic Kenwright only wanted to sell to somebody that let him retain an influence at the club. Whilst that may have been the case, like with the Benitez appointment he is ultimately being ignored for a footballing agent pal

I've spent a part of the afternoon unwinding a good portion of my position on us beating the drop.

Moshiri, the builder of the worlds fastest and most expensive elevator to the championship.

This may be well be the final nail in the coffin.

From absolutely abject performance standards and even worse results on the pitch, to that horror circus unfolding off it with Moshiri chief villain and a handful of morlocks in the background like Kenwright, Kia ect ect.

At least Norwich and Newcastle have acted and done something to try and show the support a unity exists in fighting the dreaded drop.

Everton and Watford deserve relegation for continuous mental institute decisions.

Maybe a simple solution is to do away with Z Cars? Can it be a coincidence that the two teams who run out to this tune have gone through more managers in the last few years than the rest of the league put together?

Now a name that's piped up a few times on this thread for his dislike of Joorabchian… Arsene Wenger, wonder if he's available for 4 months.

I don't know enough about the prospective new manager to have a view on how well he'll do. I don't like the rumblings of influence Kai has

The Red Echo running the opposite line? Just more fuel to the burning rumour then that this club is hopelessly disunited at the executive level.

There is dysfunction, and then there's Everton. I despair.

Kenwright is the perfect guy for Moshiri to use to take all the flak from the supporters though. He's playing us, and Kenwright is his perfect cover.

I just hope Moshiri's recent debt to equity swap is a sign he's planning to sell up and leave us alone, but by then it may be too late when we now almost inevitably fall into the Championship.

I don't get how the tide seems to have turned among so many of the fanbase on here & Twitter toward Lampard though. He did a decentish job at Derby County but fell short despite having lots of help from Chelsea with loan players. Then flattered to deceive at Chelsea before Tuchel really put the spotlight on his inadequacies.

Now, he's suddenly being called for as a new Messiah to resurrect Everton. I even saw someone demanding John Terry as his No 2. I think I'd rather take a punt on the crazy Portuguese fella. But if the only other name on the shortlist is Rooney, I want Wayne.

Moshiri once again enticed into a decision by outside influences while blocking out the clear uproar from the fan base. Don't see the point of the board if they can just simply get “overruled” when moshiri doesn't feel like agreeing with them, is there absolutely no one at the club prepared to stand up to him? Was it brands and that's why he finally got the bullet?

Just hope this fella can sort out a defence, get us to 5/6 wins then we can reassess in the summer.

Still need 1 or 2 players through the door this week. Latest rumour dele Ali is keen to come but he's holding off to see who we appoint as manager first.

Also, if Jorge Mendes can run Wolves I suppose Joorabchian will be allowed to run Everton. Moshiri is a fool and he's now in the hands of a very sly and ambitious fool.

Woy was available. He could've been a contender. Just saying as we are now a complete joke of a club.

However, the rules are tighter for those outside the established elite and he wasn't allowed to spend his way to titles. I'm convinced he would have if he could have, he seems daft enough.

Now that ship has sailed and he's exposed for what he is – a rich fool who's clueless about football, surrounded by idiots.

This seems like the inevitable conclusion. It's a car crash. As soon as I heard that Kia J was getting involved, I knew his race was run. Which unfortunately could spell disaster for us. I hope we have enough to stay up and ‘regroup' but, even if we stay up, the big question is ‘Where do we go from here…?'

We have no medical department, no scouts, no DOF, a board and owner that can't get a managerial appointment right in 5 tries, an academy that's not producing players. A chairman that doesn't listen to the board of directors, a dreadful squad, no clear vision. The list goes on. It leaves me wondering how you ‘regroup' or ‘go again' with all this going on!?

I'm not one for all the bed wetting that goes on after every bad result, but even if we stay up, we are in the worst state we've been in for decades. Bromley Moore or not.

Lampard, last reports stated might meet Moshiri and Usmanov, but if this article is true he probably has had cold feet as well.

The only advantage is that might know some players who would be willing to come to Everton. Lampard would have difficulty, given the present state of the Club.

That is particularly worrying. Even in those dark days we had plenty of distractors on here who'd argue for keeping the manager and allowing time and delegated authority to change structure. However, I can't see many at all on this fighting for this appointment. So, let's deal with that.

Whilst his experience is not in the leagues we'd like to see;

- He is a manager with 15 years+ experience, and a win rate that exceeds even the most successful of our own recent managers by over 10%+.
- He's got a full-on spicy character with loads of passion and aggression that's clear to see,
- He apparently plays pressing / attacking / possession focused football.
- He'll connect to the portugese/brazilian core that we'll rely on over next 6 months.

. and, if he gets us to the summer, and keeps us in the premier league, it may allow more managers to come in as options (e.g. Potter could be realistic then, Moyes, Rangnik, Arteta, may move on, etc.)

Add to this the genuine concern that all other genuinely feasible options have their own huge risks (Lampard, Ferguson, Rooney) and the anger seems a little off kilter.

However, all that being said I SHARE THE VASTLY ACCELERATING ANGER TOO. The removal of Brands has shown in daylight just how disfunctional the club is. Bill still wants his toy set, but Moshiri clearly doesnt trust him to the level he lied about in the email. If he did, Joorabchian would be nowhere near this club, or this decision. The same happened with Benitez and that is proving to be the worst decision we've taken in 10 years.

However, if Moshiri doesnt trust Bill, and he doesn't have a Brands any more. who else is he supposed to get advice from? It really is a major fucking mess, and it suggests that no matter who we pick this isn't going to get better soon.

Moshiri has a choice:

1) Move Bill/DBB into roles focused only on stadium and community. Make it very formal, and if neither like it then they know where the door is. Appoint a REAL FOOTBALL CEO, and let them create an organisation empowered to make decisions and drive transformation. Make sure Periera is given 2 cloud lifting midfielders before monday (Alli/Barkley and Gueye back would be do for now, although Zakaria would be one i'd like most!).

2) Back Bill and the Everton way. Let him put Rooney or Ferguson in formally. Surround them with Cahills/Nevilles/Baines/Pinaars/etc and at least have an identity with passion.

Unfortunately I don't think Moshiri will do either. He'll appoint the manager he wants (or the one his 'advisor' tells him is best) and put his head in the sand that Bill and his gang will get behind them then, in 6-12 months we'll be right back here again when they don't.

For me, this is now a cross roads. Moshiri needs to drive real change RIGHT NOW (not just manager) or he MUST become the focus of our anger. Like some have said above, if that means the new stadium dies for a bit, then so be it because it is FAR better than the whole club that is dying in front of our eyes.

Pereira might be that. But he's not a long term appointment. I am very confident he won't last 18 months here. It really wouldnt surprise me if he keeps us up but is sacked January 2023.

Appoint him by all means just to freshen things up and give the club a lift but the real planning starts now for his successor and the medium to long term shape of the squad. Otherwise this hire and fire cycle will see us relegated.

For me, that means we need a DoF to be appointed to oversee the longer term vision beyond this very short termist appointment.

Wolves have done very well from being agent led in recruitment, but I think they've just found a better agent than we have.

Well said Gary (96) he is not as left field a choice as is made out by some, his "profile" is not without its plus points (as indicated by Steve F, nice to see you back on here btw Steve). He could actually get the place rocking, lets just get behind him because this appointment will turn quickly toxic if the fans continue down this route of animosity, that will translate to the team. We need them playing with a little belief.

If its a 4 month contact with an option of another year then its not the end of the world, it's probably heavily incentivised to keep us up and we have the option to bin him off at the end of the season and go for a better option if Periera is not for us. He may surprise a few and deserve the benefit of the doubt if this is what Mosh wants to do. Cooper at the end of the season anyone? I do not understand this collective yearning for Chelsea legend and inexperienced manager Frank Lampard at all!!

Reading about Joorabchian, it's clear to me that one of the most intelligent and innovative football men that this country has ever seen was Arsene Wenger, and I can't believe Moshiri hasn't at least approached this fella, even if he hasn't been a football manager for a few years now; he's possibly one of the very few men who could save Everton right now imo.

Farhad Moshiri, the man who just keeps giving, has just crept into number one, ahead of “What a manager. Good on yer, Bill. Our Bluetiful Saviour!”

We can only wait and see.

"Mooncalf" brilliant hysterical description.

Although Arsenal were eventually entangled by this human version of Japanese weedknot ( I may have invented a new plant species there) they ironically also benefitted by his Iwobi con trick on us to £30+million.

Your post...like Garth Merengues Dark Place has made me laugh...and cry. and shit myself!!!

Secondly, will the club pet be kept on as Assistant again? Those comments yesterday regarding Rooney are very interesting….

I wonder how the conversations go with new managers? Something like, “Here's a pot lid of cash but you have keep Duncan on because he loves the club and he's be lost without it. He's kind of harmless like so just pretend he's not really there.” Which in itself would be terribly sad.

That was last week… This week, plainly he can not give a toss. What a tosser.

1860 Munich consulted Kia Joorabchian before appointing Pereira, and the super agent was spotted in owner Moshiri's director's box at Goodison Park on Saturday.

Of Course 1860 were relegated to the third tier under Pereira

But we actually have somewhere between no and very little idea who has been interviewed, how often, what the super agents involvement is or what the board support or not.

It's guesswork and supposition

On the other hand the concern about our utter demise is spot on, but we are far from done yet.

We've had enough of the super managers who've done it before - so as an earlier poster stated success can come in surprise packages

The most important thing we can do is try and contribute to recovery and success by getting behind the new manager and team, and where necessary and effective challenging and protesting where there are changes needed.

Apologies for probably stating the blindingly obvious

Lampard I'm not 100% convinced of. Blew a championship playoff final with a team of great young players then had a meltdown at Chelsea with a team full of great young players. I know the media love him but does Kia?

The other guys in the hat, Garcia and Kovac excite me more but they are builders of teams, not magicians.

It won't happen now, but for a short term fix I'd still go with Rooney-Ferguson. They'd manage to scrape the points to survive then we could take stock in the summer.

A cautionary note to those reading super gossip, Fabrizio Romano. Apparently, he's an agent as well and sells his “scoops” on behalf of other agents to highlight their respective clients. Uefa/fifa need to get a grip on this.

After reading the latest news concerning our vacant managers post, I now fully expect to receive a call for my interview. Don't worry if I get the job I probably won't be there too long but the pay off will be good for my pension.

Apologies to all who are following these posts, what must the players think? It's a sad mess and so very depressing. How on earth did Moshiri make his fortune?

Truth is I don't care, but the fact that he seems intent on ruining our club really matters, and we must do what we can to let him know how we feel.

They are not builders of teams.

Since we are a badly run club with a no apparent strategy when it comes to recruitment, I don't hold out much hope for these sorts of managers.

There's a lot of work to do behind the scenes. If we get that right then we might find the appointed manager starts to look more competent.

There have been lots of times in my 47 years of supporting the Blues where it hasn't been great on the pitch but my loyalty has always been underpinned by the pride of being an Evertonian and for what the club stood for. Supporting Everton at the moment is like being in a never ending nightmare. Players who are not good enough, bleeding the club dry. An owner who WILL not listen. Even the odd isolated event is being used by the media to tarnish our fans' reputation. It's an utter shambles and there is no end in sight.

Pereira will get my backing but it's hard to envisage anything other than relegation. We just seem destined to be on a path of failure and to finally fall through the trapdoor into the championship.

I don't know whether to feel sad, angry or just to finally accept that the feeling we enjoyed in the mid to late 80s at being the best club in the land isn't going to be relived for a very long time and possibly, it never will happen again.

And the winner is, envelope (any colour?) please

Early success in the 60s when the Bundesliga was first established in it's current format. Ahead of their city rivals at the time, but superseded and overshadowed throughout the 70s. A bit of a resurgence in the 2000s including a 4th place finish that saw them qualify for the qualifying round of the Champions League only to go out at the first hurdle and into the UEFA Cup.

The humility of their city neighbours, now a super club on the world stage offering to bail them out with a donation to pay off their debt. Can you imagine the humiliation?

Further mismanagement and relegation after relegation, financial ruin and back into the regional leagues.

It's like reading about Schalke on steroids.

And I can't help having nervous parallel thoughts.

FA Cup to turn our season. Thinking positive. Trying to think positive.

According to press reports the board are against this appointment just as they were opposed to the Benitez appointment. If that is the case then their positions surely become untenable and they have no option but to resign. Although as we see from our own Prime minister they would rather try and cling on rather than do the honourable thing and resign.

I also thinks it makes Duncan Fergusons position untenable, in as much its quite obvious Usmanov/Moshiri have no faith in giving him an opportunity so what is the point of staying on.

So it seems that Kia Joorabchian carries more sway with Moshiri than the members of the board, what a position to be in when Moshiri would rather appoint a manager who is represented by this agent than appoint a fit and proper manager. The tell tale sign is there just like it was with the last manager they both managed in China because nobody else wanted them. Despite the sackings in the premier league we are the only club that is linked to Pereira that tells you all you need to know.

Thanks for the insight mate, I am aways trying to stay positive, its hard work though being an Evertonian

An embarrassing shambolic pathetic state this club is in. Here's to another 27 years of good times!

An embarrassing shambolic pathetic state this club is in. Here's to another 27 years of good times!

No matter who gets the job it is all up in the air anyway. Everton needs a total rebuild.

I now think that Benitez like Ancelotti gave up, rather than being sacked. Both went because of the Transfer situation.

Think Brian #119 has the current situation in a nutshell. But Kenwright &Co and Duncan will just sit on though. They have done that for years, but now they are lookng totally barefaced. If Pereira arrives we will get a photo op of him being introduced by the Chief Executive to Bug Dunc and Unsie kitted out with Everton track suits at Finch Farm. ( We are here to stay in other words , Managers come and go. )

Can't believe this cycle of a merry go round of mediocrity will continue. , but there is no other show on the horizon.

Marty (Moshiri) acquires the club to clean Navarro (Usmanov) money. Making enormous loses to help hide away clean asset purchases and enable the debt pile to grow, pumping in clean money to clear debt.

They can finish the stadium and sell as a championship club, it looks cut price, £200-£500m lost but around £400m laundered through the years and eventually a further take on final selling price to give you a nice fat bank account of now clean money.

Of course I'm daydreaming but it does smell like money being cleaned.

It's all about the two midfielders we need to sign before Monday night. I'm not sure people of influence in the club fully understand how serious this business is for the club's future. Their energy is seemingly being expended elsewhere.

If we sign these two players to make our midfield strong throughout the rest of the season ANY of the managers we are linked with will keep us up.

Make a decision!
Get someone in, review in June.
Get the best two central midfielders in that you possibly can.
Get a move on, the transfer window shuts in five days.

All the January Transfer business is done. Kia has sorted out midfield, but with unfortunately only one player on loan. All Digne money has been spent.

Kia is are new Off Shore Director of Football, Moshiri is no Offshore, he is on a different planet.

“Although routinely described in the press as a football agent, Joorabchian is not a licensed agent. The involvement of unlicensed agents in transfers in the English Premier League is prohibited by the Football Association.[3] Joorabchian does not himself claim to be an agent, saying "I think the agency business is very different". He describes his business as advising players on their rights and clubs on transfers and contracts.[4]”

Now to me, he only advises, he does not push, or wheel and deal any transfers, or am I totally misunderstanding all of this? Apologies for the ignorance.

He does have some pedigree at least, albeit in less competitive leagues, but let's be honest, if you took sentiment out of the equation, neither Duncan or Rooney would even be close to consideration.

I'm happy to get behind this.

It appears dysfunctional from top to bottom, people pulling in different directions, with different opinions and egos... no one really knows what is happening but from the outside, it looks like there is no cohesion whatsoever.

Hard to call what is really going on; what we read in papers and online, probably only scratches the surface.

Right now, Id take Big Sam back over Pereira. I know. But that's how desperate we are.

It's the way the appointment is happening and the apparent arrival if not appointment of a new DoF in Joorabchian who has a dubious track record of inflicting pain and loss on clubs he is associated with, but always with ample financial gain for himself.

I'm thinking now of Paul the Esk's excellent series on governance. It's clear we don't have any. I can't work Moshiri out. He has sunk a massive amount of money into the club so he is either a total fool or there is some other hidden motivation at play here.

Players couldn't care less if Duncan Ferguson has an Everton tattoo and "playing for the shirt" means so much - they just don't share all that sentimental bullshit in today's game and that's a large part of the reason we're in this mess today.

All the bluster over Duncan getting the job, and all those videos posted online by the club in the lead-up to the Villa game made me cringe.

We need to modernise, stop going on about the past, stop relying on ex-players & managers/coaches/ball boys/tea ladies and that's what Moshiri is attempting to do - the trouble is he's doing it all wrong as well, especially with Joorabchian in the mix.

In a way Moshiri has it right, in that he's trying to relieve us of this millstone of history round our collective necks but supporters are less keen and keep clinging to the hope that Duncan or Wayne Rooney (Manchester United legend) are going to ride in on a white horse and fix it all.

At what club do they have success built on sentiment? Name me one. Clue: there aren't any. End of quiz.

The issue to me appears to be the 'boys club' mentality - Joorabchian and Moshiri are both Iranian (despite Joorabchian claiming to be British/Canadian) so I imagine there's a deeper 'business' connection than we dare think about going on behind the scenes...

We wanted money, we got money - we also got the Moshiri/Joorabchian/Usmanoz axis. Be careful what you wish for eh.

I really hoped we may sign a few loans before the window is shut and a striker too... but alas, it would appear our business is done, from what I am reading? Does anyone know if this is correct - we can't move for anymore players?

Ignoring the first part for obvious reasons, I think you have hit the nail on the head, with the rest of your post. We as fans have more power than any Boardroom in reality, it's just getting everyone, and there are thousands, to act as one.

I know it's painful, especially if you have prepaid, for a Season Ticket and never missed a Match, Home or Away for years, and those fans' loyalty could never be questioned, but how is that loyalty being rewarded ? To not show up inside the Ground but protest outside, at a Televised Match would have a massive impact.

The '27 for 27' movement had very little, or noticeable impact, but I believe it did initiate the 'Aerial Banner' being flown before the last match against Villa. That seems to have ignited (at long last) some recognition at Boardroom Level (?) or above (?) which resulted in Benitez being shown the door.

It shows what a shambles the ' hierarchy (if you can call it that) are when they sack a very unpopular Manager, when the finger of blame then was being pointed at Kenwright.

While I don't think too many are shedding tears over Rafa's departure, it was another case of Blaming the Monkey, not the Organ Grinder.

The sad aspect of all of this we as fans are seemingly unable to 'stop the rot' but are we ? I have read almost every post on TW recently, and am as anxious as the next man, to get Everton back to the Club we all love, and have done for years.

Having said that, like most of us, if we are honest enough, we all look at Clickbait = Newsnow Everton, which I know mostly is rubbish, but it's amazing how many times that fans' views get mentioned and seem to influence Moshiri and his Bungling Board too !

Corinthians WERE relegated and bounced straight back as runaway Serie B champions the next season. In their first three seasons back in Serie A they finished 10th, 3rd, champions.

ALL achieved 'sem Joorabchian' who was booted into the long grass.

The club is a shambles, in the full control of a man who knows nothing about football, advised by shady characters who also know nothing but have their own agenda.

There appears to be open warfare between the majority shareholder (he's not the owner – you can't own the fans, the history, the feeling we get from supporting our club) and the board. And it's not as if the board is a sensible counterweight to him, it's just another faction promoting their own interests under the direction of a man with a huge ego who seems to believe he is the club.

We, the supporters, customers, consumers are powerless to affect this downward spiral. We are utterly ignored.

Maybe Perreira, against all logic, will be a success but it will be more by luck than judgement. We are playing with fire and time is fast running out. We haven't yet bottomed out and others around us are showing signs of life.

1994 and 1998 were both bad but there was at least a sense of fight and a determination to stop the worst happening no matter what. That isn't around now. I can imagine Goodison quiet and just accepting the decline. There aren't enough characters in this team to turn it round.

Maybe we deserve it, to be honest we have stunk the Premier League out for almost it's entire existence. We are like British industry 1970s. Out of date, dysfunctional, not fit for purpose, overtaken by more modern thinkers.

I hope I am wrong but, sadly, I think we will be starting next season in the Championship – probably with Wayne Rooney in charge. Kenwright and Moshiri, you have killed your baby.

(Can someone post something optimistic, please!)

I cant stand z-cars and the dreary dirge 'grand old team' that is played before the team comes out. Sacrosanct for some I know, but...

It took that lot a good few years to realize that clinging to the past becomes a hindrance.

Let's get Sooty in. Alan Carr as DOF.

Maybe this is the kind of guy Moshiri usually works with, who knows? He's certainly come a long way since running his family's Vauxhall dealership into administration in 2009. The guy epitomises the self serving leeches who have infiltrated the game. More shame on Moshiri for listening to him.

I believe Brentford are bringing about 4,500 fans so tickets could be in short supply.

The team is and probably always has been the focus for many supporters, the lads who are chosen to represent Everton FC on the pitch are the only people who can turn the tide of failure and prevent the club from falling out of the division. No matter how the club is run and by whom, it doesn't really help us score goals or prevent them. I think any demonstrations or protests at this particular time will help to seal our fate.

We should try and give the players as much support as possible, despite the owner or the manager we have. If we do manage to retain our premier league place, we can then examine and explore how to put pressure on the owner and the board, but doing it now, in the position we are in, could prove to be the straw that breaks the camels back.

I'm as unhappy as the next Evertonian with where we find ourselves as a club, but I'm loathe to add to the chaos and thus be held partly responsible for the relegation of the club, I'd much rather play a small part in helping the team escape the trap-door.

Nontheless, I have ignited the torch and grasped the pitchfork whilst studiously rehearsing "HE HAS TO GO!" in readiness for his first defeat.

I wonder if we could do this new "Everton thing" of piling on him even before he sets foot in the place?? - Oh! lookee, lookee - seems I'm a tad late

Coming into the premier league for the first time, and mid season, may not be the best thing to do, but all this “Got no experience of Premier league football “ is just bollocks. The premier league is the most watched league in the world, every manager throughout will know the premier league, the clubs and their players. We all know how the likes of Man City, Chelsea, the RS etc play, and our own team of course, so you can bet your bottom dollar so do complete outsiders. Mourinho, Wenger, klopp and Tuchel had never stepped foot in this country to manage, but they seemed to have done ok. Aside from the structure of the club, which has been well documented by every Tom Dick and Harry on this site, Pereira will be here to oversee the football side of the club, not what goes on elsewhere.

I'm not saying I'm totally in favour with this appointment, but If he's appointed, then we've all got to get behind him.

Let's get Sooty in. Alan Carr as DOF.

Agent Benitez? More like Agent Kenwright.

I wouldn't be surprised if that is exactly what is happening.
No one becomes as rich as Moshiri without shady business going on.
Looked at our beloved Queen and our former Prime Ministers with money hidden away in offshore accounts. Look at the lies of the present government siphoning money away at the tax payers expense
These people operate in a different world. Taxes are for the poor not the rich.

Absolutely spot on. Indeed, Kenwright made an absolute meal of the fact that he spent so much time in the guys company in order to ensure that he was the correct fit for the club before bringing him on board.

Bringing Moshiri to Goodison Park will prove to be the biggest mistaker that Kenwright has made as Chairman. I would think that Kenwright is already aware of this but is now powerless to do anything about it.

If VP gets the job I wish him well as he has a massive task ahead of him. The task will be made all the more difficult from the off as he will be seen to be Kia's choice. At this stage Kia is up there with Rafa in the popularity stakes.

I know that Big Dunc managed that reviving defeat of Chelsea, but I thought that Chelsea where the better footballing team that day, though Lampard did seem to lose the Chelsea dressing room as that season progressed.

I think he is the best chance of avoiding regelation , which now is a very tall order and if relegated may be able to turn the Team around , once the shackles of Everton, the Peoples Club a d all that goes to with it, are off.

Quite clearly Kia Joorabchian is filling a vacuum at Everton FC in the absence of a DoF or any senior football man. He is not salaried staff. He is not a director, executive or non-executive. Yet he is somehow the power broker in our search for a new manager. According to reports he was sat in the stands (in Moshiri's absence) at Goodison v Villa.

Some in this thread are ignoring all the noise of the motorway pile-up of how Everton under Moshiri have self-sabotaged the club in the last six weeks, never mind the entire six years of his ownership.

They focus on 'let's get behind the new manager and give him our full support.'

For me, that is a given. Why would anyone want an Everton manager to fail? All the more so given the precarious position we are in.

But IMO you simply cannot ignore what a clusterfuck of a club we are at the moment. The haplessness and incompetence of Moshiri - yes, Moshiri - is bewildering.

Some fans have dismissed out of hand the spectre of relegation this season, based on nothing more than bravado and wishful thinking. Nobody has put up a rational cogent case based on empirical or statistical evidence (or both) as to why we are NOT at risk.

Six points out of 42 from our last 14 games. One win. Three draws. Defeats against considered relegation candidates Watford, Palace, Brentford and Norwich. A run that reads:

DLLLDLLLWLDLLL

The hoped for 'new manager' bounce with Duncan's return v Villa didn't happen. Newcastle away and Leeds at home to follow.

Only 3 teams have lost more games than Everton's 11 this season - Brentford (12), Norwich and Watford (both 14). Even Burnley (8) and Newcastle (10) have lost fewer games than us.

And a dodgy dealer is attempting to push Vitor Pereira on us.

Now it is far from confirmed. EVERY signing - manager or player - can go either way. Success, or failure. But you can still tilt the numbers in your favour with good scouting and considering the pros and cons.

Much is made of Pereira's ability to win the league in Portugal, Greece and China. Let's look at that a bit closer.

Pereira benefited from inheriting a highly functioning Porto team which, in the season before Pereira took command, had won the Portuguese league under Villas-Boas at a canter.

In a 16 team league - 30 league games - Porto were undefeated, gleaning 84 points from a possible 90. Second placed Benfica were 21 points adrift on 63 points, Sporting third 36 points behind on 48 points. Porto won a treble under Villas-Boas that season, adding the domestic cup and the Europa League.

Pereira's two titles and one defeat in the next two seasons looks impressive, but I lived in Portugal at that time and he was never widely liked by the Porto fans, who thought he was simply given a steering job of carrying on with Villas-Boas team. It was also acknowledged that the other two Portuguese super-clubs - Benfica and Sporting - were weak and in transformation.

To give further context to the 'achievement' of winning the Portuguese league, do you know how many different champions it has had in its entire history? Five.

Benfica has 37 titles. Porto 28. Sporting 19. Belenenses in 1946 and Boavista in 2001 are the only other champions.

The same could be said of his title at Olympiacos. EVERY manager wins the title with them! In 14 of the 16 seasons before Pereira, Olympiacos were crowned champions. They won it again with Pereira. They won it the next two seasons after he left.

China? Seriously. Who fucking cares?

His career path reads as someone who chases the bucks, rather than the glory or fulfilling a desire to prove himself in top leagues.

The following is a very eloquent and detailed assessment by a Fernerbache fan on Grand Old Team. It echoes a lot of what I saw for myself when he was at Porto and how Porto fans regard him.

Vitor Pereira By a Fenerbache Fan

Still, my deeper concern remains centred in the governance of Everton FC (or rather, the lack of it), which seems founded on crisis management, reacting to crisis our guardians have themselves created.

We are in an extremely precarious state right now. And nothing emanating from the club is reassuring me at the moment.

Favre's statement:

“I will definitely go back to coaching. I still feel very fresh and enjoy good health. Now that I have recharged the batteries, I want to work for a few more years.

“I'm ready to get back into the game. But I'll do it only when I find a project that convinces me 100 per cent and only if I can have people chosen by me by my side. It's a question of trust.”

This manager could be a very good fit for us , the right man at the right time. A belated gift from the football gods.

You watch how quickly their owners move this club forward with great signings and a plan

Big sign post in capital letters placed on the end of Moshiri's nose. Keep an eye on the Rangnick situation too.

Stark post Jay. But a reality of where we are.

Improve that first and the results will follow,it might be a scary time but I believe we can easily beat the dreaded drop and go far in the Cup too...I'm thinking positive for a change!.

What's Graeme Sharp up to by the way?

Answers on a postcard.

Also just read this: When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a King. The palace becomes a circus.

Someone earlier asked for something positive. Everton are going to pleasantly surprise us with the appointment and we have the FA Cup to look forward to.

I'm off out for some fresh air.

Brentford sold out. I know they've taken a bigger than usual allocation, but our dedication never ceases to amaze. A mere member like me didn't even get a look in.

His price that is.

Everything from the demonstrations to crowds throwing objects at players - to Bill facing the supporters and now graffiti on the walls of the stadium.

It's a sinking ship that's for sure! And it might just be our turn to go down- if we do I would rather have Rooney at the helm than Lampard.

How on earth have Everton Football Club arrived at this point in time - it seems inconceivable that the governance is so dammed poor and it has turned the fanbase apoplectic with rage, worry, and despair.

I am amazed, but perhaps not, that other board members simply do not walk as Brand's did - they may be able to retain some small shred of personal integrity and credibility - most of it has been eroded by their conduct to date in my eyes and why Graeme Sharp was weak or daft or both enough to take the offer goodness knows - he certainly needs to find a mouth and backbone quick.

What can seriously be done at the supporters level without eroding some support for a team that needs all the backing it can get on the field to try and maintain top-flight status?

How on earth have Everton Football Club arrived at this point in time - it seems inconceivable that the governance is so dammed poor and it has turned the fanbase apoplectic with rage, worry, and despair.

I am amazed, but perhaps not, that other board members simply do not walk as Brand's did - they may be able to retain some small shred of personal integrity and credibility - most of it has been eroded by their conduct to date in my eyes and why Graeme Sharp was weak or daft or both enough to take the offer goodness knows - he certainly needs to find a mouth and backbone quick.

What can seriously be done at the supporters level without eroding some support for a team that needs all the backing it can get on the field to try and maintain top-flight status?

How on earth have Everton Football Club arrived at this point in time - it seems inconceivable that the governance is so dammed poor and it has turned the fanbase apoplectic with rage, worry, and despair.

I am amazed, but perhaps not, that other board members simply do not walk as Brand's did - they may be able to retain some small shred of personal integrity and credibility - most of it has been eroded by their conduct to date in my eyes and why Graeme Sharp was weak or daft or both enough to take the offer goodness knows - he certainly needs to find a mouth and backbone quick.

What can seriously be done at the supporters level without eroding some support for a team that needs all the backing it can get on the field to try and maintain top-flight status?

How on earth have Everton Football Club arrived at this point in time - it seems inconceivable that the governance is so dammed poor and it has turned the fanbase apoplectic with rage, worry, and despair.

I am amazed, but perhaps not, that other board members simply do not walk as Brand's did - they may be able to retain some small shred of personal integrity and credibility - most of it has been eroded by their conduct to date in my eyes and why Graeme Sharp was weak or daft or both enough to take the offer goodness knows - he certainly needs to find a mouth and backbone quick.

What can seriously be done at the supporters level without eroding some support for a team that needs all the backing it can get on the field to try and maintain top-flight status?

Kenwrights Uncle should have been a red neck and took him to watch them.

Without those two the club could actually have been mediocre mid table but no down is the way to go.
Will somebody wake me on April 2nd when this sick prank is all over.

https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2453021/brentford-cup-tickets-on-sale-from-wednesday

Man's a parasite.

Mate of mine is an Arsenal season ticket holder, has been for decades. He's so thankful that Moshiri, Usmanov & Joorabchian got nowhere near owning the club.

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I can't get my head round this at all. Either the media are feeding us bullshit, or our club on the precipice of disaster.

". just maybe a season in the Championship, with awayday trips to the likes of Birmingham & Cardiff is the only thing that might eventually wake our moronic board up. Nothing else seems able to. "

Hello Paul,

The board is fully awake, this is them at their best, one word sums us up: clueless!

Kia Joorabchian is now doing all the recruitment for our club, this is truly a "God help us!" time.

Also, tbf, if its between this fella and Lampard, I'd chose him because at least we know he han shore up a leaky defense at least!

KIA OUT!

The failure of the Moshiri spending, sacking, spending, sacking, has us all just itching to jump on whoever is next for the hot seat. Nothing that a few wins won't cure though, is it?

These shit players were in 2nd not so long ago. Is it so hard to find a manager that can find the right formation and tactics to fit these players? Carlo came close… and l believe we are stronger now.

Apart from the fact that we have zero number 10s. l mean, Sigurdsson gone, James runout of town… and it didn't even cross our clubs mind (or him) that we should replace them. Help.

If that happened, I would expect to see more of Dobbin and Branthwaite. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see Warrington closer to the first team squad. I'm trying not to get too excited about him, as I don't want him destroyed before he's started, but he impresses me every time I watch him.

I think that's what Lampard would bring and let's face it, the last decent performance and result we had was against Chelsea. I think we finished the match with 5 players under the age of 20 that night (don't quote me).

Report back from the board meeting in the Titanic.

This guy sounds like Silva mk2, another who can no doubt romance Moshiri in interviews with tales of daring do and his bold visions of building dynasties, etc. but judging by what I see from some established posters on here he is just another untried gamble when time is very much against.

Following this club has become such hard work in recent years, the ineptitude on display would be truly staggering if it wasn't so fucking consistent and so predictable.

Relegation may well be a reality this year and it would be so painful and unfair on the fans who have been let down so badly and for so long. But if it takes relegation to purge the club of those who have stripped every atom of credibility from the club, then so be it.

Joorabchian is a friend of Moshiri and Usmanov and Pereira's agent… unbelievable! We're a laughing stock, fighting relegation and give to a man with no Premier League experience, and sacked by Fernabahçe in the Turkish league. You couldn't make it up.

He'll sell Calvert-Lewin because he knows Rondon from his time in China, will make Iwobi captain because Joorabchian got Moshiri to buy him for £35M from Arsenal. Championship on the way…

First to Finch Farm to collect the locker key wins.

It seems to me that the club is just completely broken from top to bottom and that the fans are running it whether there is a fan representative on the board or not.

What a complete, total and utter shambles we are. It just breaks my heart that Kenwright, who still thinks that we have had 'good times' in the last 27 years, has been so selfish and self-serving over that period that he has brought us to this point and still believes that 'no changes at board level' are required, is still involved with our club at all.

I just dread opening my computer in the morning in case Judi Dench is our new manager. I swear it wouldn't surprise me.

The best decision would be sack the players, or at least some of them if that was possible.
Is he any better manager than the all the other recent Everton managers, I think its safe to say no.

I'm a bit far away, could someone pop down and spray "Pay Nathan £100k per week" on the wall?

I promise to pay any graffiti fines and to pay for the paint to restore the wall to its former glory.

He was a well respected player so he should get the existing players respect and if we get behind him who knows.

Move on from the usual nepotism within the club between Blue Bill, Rooney, Big Dunc and all that mullarkey that has not borne fruit for us and start afresh.

We need a young hungry manager, not sullied by Kenwright and his teary eyed monologues and go for youth, new ideas, a fresh approach, pressing football. Lampard would attract young hungry players to the club. Can you see him signing players with the profile of Delph, Schneiderlin, Iwobi. I don't think so.

Develops youth players, plays 4-2-3-1 (which I think suits our current squad), or 4-3-3. Likes his full backs to overlap. In the current situation I'd be reasonably happy with this appointment.

He reckons that Vitor, whilst never providing a dull moment, would be a disaster. Although he does say he would take no shit from the board and that meetings between him and Klopp would have the potential for high comedy.

He also thinks that Vitor has an 8-month suspended prison sentence in Greece for 'Insighting a riot' whilst at Olympiacos.

Sharpy out NOW!!

Sorry, couldn't resist it!

God knows if he is the best choice but if Moshiri appoints Frank Lampard I'll be far happier than if he had appointed Pereira. I'll get behind him and the club 100%.

Make the decision now Mr Moshiri, we need to get this sorted and sign a couple of midfielders with the new manager's approval.

Maybe that's why Moshiri is chasing Pereria on a short contract with a rollover year.

If it's between these two, it's Lampbard for me, something to prove, young and hungry with loads of medals and his knowledge of the Premier League.

I see that steely eye of the winner's mentality more in Rooney.

I did cast my mind back to the Wimbledon game and looked at how passionate Graham Stuart, Barry Horne and Co were if they reran the game with the new squad I can't say it would be the same...

Why? That list of trophy winners includes Everton's all-time trophy haul and that has us in 8th place in that table.

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Mark@224 agreed we need younger hungry players – not over-the-hill has beens or never-beens clogging up the treatment room. I'm sure Lampard could entice better players to sign.

Interesting that Pereira says his interest in the job was pushed by Kenwright who he has known for 6 years.

The sooner we get that tool out of our club the sooner we can stop being "plucky little Everton".

Porto have been SUPERB in the transfer market for many a long year.

Having picked up Falcao for £5 million and got two years service out of him, he was the only big named player Porto sold when Pereira started the job. Flogged to Athletico Madrid for £40 million.

The club reinvested that money in:

Danilo for £13 million - sold to Real Madrid 4 years later for £30 million
Alex Sandro for £9 million - sold to Juventus 4 years later for £28 million
Mangala for £6 million - sold to City 3 years later for £40 million

So for an original £5 million layout for Falcao, they generated £35 million profit. Reinvested £28 million of that in new players, which in turn generated a further £72 million profit.

In his second season, they sold Hulk. Bought for £18 million, sold 4 years later for £40 million.

Again the money was reinvested:
Jackson Martinez for £8 million - sold to Athletico Madrid 3 years later for £35 million

As in the previous season, they earned a £22 million profit on Hulk, reinvested £8 million of that and turned that into another £27 million profit.

Pereira's teams at Porto were not asset stripped and left barren.

Looking at those numbers also shows what CAN be done in the transfer market whilst keeping a club competitive.

Buy that spotty teenager a beer.

I would have liked Dunc to manage the team until the end of the season, but if Lampard is getting the job, then Dunc should do the right thing and step out of the way. Just give Lampard a clean slate to work with and let him get his preferred coaching team in.

There are definitely upsides, mainly attracting players and potentially gaining instant respect from those already here.

The young uns have heard of him too, even if they've never heard of Everton.

Oh, and I just read we're looking into the possibility of signing Thomas Muller. Hahahaha!

I agree what ever manger signs they need to have there own people and a clean sheet by fans given. However, I just don't think Frank has the acumen and tactical nous to not only get us out of this trouble, but then to kick on.

I can't agree that the young uns or any other footballers and footy fans have never heard of Everton Football Club. Perhaps, not for the reasons we'd like but, given the world-wide popularity of the Premier League, I'm certain there are few people out there who follow the game that haven't heard of our club.

Short term I think there's a good chance he will get people enjoying their football again and playing to strengths. That might just give us the bounce we need to collect a good handful of wins.

I also fancy his chances of bringing players in - although time is running out for January.

In summer, players like Loftus-Cheek, Lingard and Delle Ali might sign, as might someone like Gilmour on loan. I could see that working (although I've mixed feelings about some of these players).

I also think Lampard will want to really establish himself as a manager and so the motivation is there. If he gets this wrong then he'll struggle to pick up another decent job again.

But, honestly, I do think he'll be found out once the novelty wears off - and he's not experienced enough to just brush aside the horrible politics at our club and general mismanagement. So I expect him to be looking out of his depth by about this time next year if appointed.

What makes you believe that Everton aren't in a relegation battle?

You do realise our current form is abysmal and some of those remaining fixtures contain stern tests at some of the toughest venues of the high-flying teams as well as encounters with fellow strugglers.

I hope we don't become truly embroiled in any battle to stay up, but the facts as they are suggest we will be.

If the above is true then this is a classic opportunity for Kenwright and Sharp and DBB to resign from the board. Or at least threaten to resign. What message would that send to the owner, what message would it send to the fans.

At that point, the only bad guy will be the owner.

So what do these three value the most? The club or their future income?

'There are 18 games left that's 54 points. Can people stop saying we're in a relegation battle.'

Won't other teams around us be saying the same thing? 'Plenty of games and points to avoid relegation'.

Unlike us (6 points from a possible FORTY-TWO POINTS - 14 games), teams we are down there with are picking up points. AND beating US.

Pereira was certainly on the radar of Kenwright 9 years ago when he was in the running with Martinez to succeed Moyes.

Frank Lampard is the best available candidate and is now the betting favourite.

One. The clamour for Lampard could be just that he's not Pereira.

Two. The betting market for new managers is often dodgy.

If Everton was a proper football club I think Steve Cooper would be a good fit.

Actually that was three things

The main thing for me is matching a true English football man, Lampard with a traditional English club, Everton. This IMO will produce a better footballing side.

Everton as a football side have been abysmal and a shambles. There have been that many different managers all with their ideas and style off play, which quite frankly no-one at Everton got to grips with. This has resulted in errors, mis-placed passes, poor technical ability, and clueless players regarding tactics and getting in position.

Only someone who has an understanding of the English game can manage Everton. That's the reason why Lampard is the only suitable candidate.

Everton may be relegated but, if they go down playing good football, they stand a better chance of coming back up. They might even avoid relegation in doing so. After that, the real pressure will mount on Moshiri, the board and management to get their house in order.

Some may say Ferguson could do it. Not in a million years and he knows it. It now looks as if it is Evertonians that will save Everton.

But you think Rooney does have acumen and nous?

I'm not trying to belittle your argument but Lampard didn't spend £249 million pound at Chelsea and he'd deffo beat Wayne where knowledge and acumen are concerned. Acumen is the ability to make sound judgements, good decisions. Have a look at the poor decisions that Wayne has made in his personal life and not just in a football sense.

He left us for one to go to Man Utd. Enough said there! Okay, it was good for him but not for us. As for the personal stuff, where do you want to start on making good decisions?

I like Wayne but he's very much not for me. I do understand we see different things in people, so it's nothing personal. Lampard over Rooney all day long.

This is what happens when you only want to spend a little bit of time on something, Moshiri, and leave the running of the club to people who are not really qualified to help take Everton back towards the upper echelons of the Premier League.

People who think no trophies and one cup final in 27 years has given Evertonians some good times, shouldn't really have to walk, come-on...

Not my thoughts, just reporting what I was told. My friend supports Portimonense, so maybe not the best judge of a football team!

Looking at the figures you quote though, certainly seems that Vitor has an eye for a deal.

Is Nathan Patterson worth £100k per week? 😀😀

Okay, to reiterate my on the fence-ness over Lampard, but I'll look at this through another lens other than the one I mentioned earlier in that I imagine he'll promote the inclusion of youth.

What he might also bring is something Everton don't normally get. He's an England darling, so for once, we might actually have the national media interested in and behind us. Does that make a difference? It can; dare I say in refereeing decisions. Did anyone pick up on the handball against Villa that should have seen us given a penalty? I hadn't but got sent a link today by a fellow ToffeeWebber. Blatant and should have been picked up by VAR.

I'm trying to be positive. His expectations at Chelsea would have been very different. Challenge for the league title and qualify Champion's League as a minimum.

Sadly, that won't be the case at Everton. I said a week or so ago, Lampard bringing Rooney in as his assistant?

Well, not this season anyway.

Both are still very young managers, but the position the club finds itself in needs someone I think to understand the magnitude of the problems before they walk in the door. Rooney has been dealing with it at Derby he knows the club, sure the players respect him and he can get to work without finding his feet first – which is exactly what we need now.

Also, wasn't Rooney sold by Bill to save us from going under? As for his personal life, we make mistakes and people do learn from them.

Luke@265, I agree and it does feel that with Everton being very cliquey that it might be too much for an outsider, which is my real concern anyway.

All this talk about dodgy agents filling their boots, influencing the management for their own gain and greed, it really is sickening and worrying and is pulling our club under. If there are true Evertonians on the board, it's time they did something about it, got their finger out and got us out of this mess. Now!

Yes most probably in the same speech he told the Anfield crowd he was there that night, with 10,000 Everton fans, when Dave Hickson made his debut for Liverpool against Aston Villa. The crowd laughed at him.

They'd have laughed a lot longer if they'd known the kick-off that day was 2:15 pm, it was a winter's day – not night. Johnson could learn off Kenwright when it comes to telling porkies!!

Definite relegation candidates unless we can turn this round quickly.

If Newcastle beat us in our next game, we are in fucking even more trouble, of course if they don't everything will be fine – not!

Looking further into the future, and I've been thinking about that over the last few days, and believe (this'll cause an argument) that unless Ferguson does well enough to get the job permanently, whoever does come in as our permanent manager should actually insist on his own staff and also that Ferguson should not continue in his assistant job.

My reasoning behind this is that I feel that anyone coming in will be up against Ferguson's popularity with the players and I feel that could undermine the new manager. The new guy (if that's what happens) has to be the sole and undoubted leader of the players. He must have their unstinting loyalty and their commitment to him and him alone.

I feel that Ferguson, through no real fault of his own, could be a problem in that regard. Ideally, Ferguson does so well that he does get the job permanently but it doesn't look like that option's on the table.

Why is it necessarily the club's doing?

I don't want Lampard, I don't think he has done anything to warrant this role. He only got the Chelsea gig because he was a legend there, well Rooney is a legend that happened to at least play for Everton, I'd rather take that route than Frank. I still want Favre or Kovac personally.

Agree too that a loan signing in midfield is essential, some quality required too as we are in for a fight. So pleased about Dobbin though, a loan for Simms seems a good idea.

I wish we would hold off on the manager search and instead throw our weight behind the DOF appointment, Campos should be wooed and paid whatever he wants to come here, he is the man everyone should be looking at:

Luís Campos: The rise of football's most underrated sporting director

In his only full season there, he finished 4th and got to the FA Cup Final. In his second season he had Chelsea top of the premier league in early December 2020. It was only a disasterous run of losing 5 league games out of 8 that led to Abramovich pulling the trigger on him.

Every manager (well most anyway) can go through a horrendous run like that. Could he have halted the slide, who knows, as Abramovich doesn't give time for anyone. Would he have won the Champions League as well, again we'll never know, but it was pretty much his squad that did win it, with one of his purchasers, Kai Havertz scoring the only goal in the final.

I'm fully prepared to give him a chance. Okay, he won't have anywhere near the transfer funds he had at Chelsea, but he knows the Premier League, which many on here seem to think is a requirement when appointing a new manager.

Vitor Pereira's CV is bad and includes Turkey and China (we have been thee before). If Dunc was to be a manager, he would have alreday been doing it for several years. Frank Lampard it has to be, it's a no-brainer!

Victor Pereira is being roasted, and they put him on air!

Listen to the Fans!!!!

We're in serious trouble!

Lampard 6 months. If it doesn't work... Moyes or Potter!

If the club told him to get on there and win over the fans fair enough, they are such fuckwits I'd expect it from them right now, from either Bill or Moshiri, but if he has done this off his own back his fucking desperate and an idiot.

Has he had his media training? Who coached him – Toys R Us? EFC, just what the fuck?!?!

"I even saw someone demanding John Terry as his No 2."

An attendant danger of Miss Dynamite getting bent over the boardroom table too. Whether that would be a good or a bad thing at this stage is hard to say.

Without knowing any details, it's the clubs fault.Priceless!

Spurs is away!!

If Duncan wants to stay at Everton when the new manager is appointed, then they should be able to employ him in the academy setup.

You don't think he'd asked the club if it was a good idea to take the interview?

He knows he's not a favourite, but like he said he's offered his perspective and until the fan reaction, probably was and still is favourite for the job.

Side note – read the link below for a logical opinion on our club:

Richard Keys: Don't kill Bill – it really isn't his fault.

Not liked, but he's one of the only people I feel talks sense.

Everton have already played Spurs at Goodison – a goalless draw; the game in March is in London. Only 3 league games scheduled in March: Wolves at home and Watford away, plus the trip to the new White Hart Lane. I imagine one of those postponed games will also be arranged for that month too.

Wtf is that Pereira doing, going on Sky Sports to pitch for the job? Can this situation get any worse? Oh, we're Everton, of course it fucking can.

You're probably right, politics doesn't take place in football (eye roll)...

Moving on, Who's everyones realistic favourite for the job?

If he would come I'd prefer Lampard, he's probably the best of the possibles and that's not saying much. Jesus would be a good shout if he's available, we could do with a few miracles.

I've read that Keys piece in other places, but thanks for the link as he mentions Riley and PGMOL as officiating the game from the bunkers when VAR decisions are reviewed. If true, the game itself is completely bent, not just the alleged gangsters who own the clubs.

These are quality players that wan't to win!

Pereira doesn't have much credentials and 2 Portuguese titles don't impress me. They have produced many fine players over the years but really only boast 3 competitive teams, Porto, Sporting and Benfica and they seem to dominate every season over all the same weaker teams much like Scotland.

With no Premier League experience, and given our precarious position and results in freefall, I feel very apprehensive about this appointment.

Obviously he will jump at the job if offered as he is out of work and will probably be offered a fat contract.

I do wonder what the board really thinks of Big Dunc. given that he knows about the Premier League the club and the current squad and yet Pereira is looked at as a permanent manager.

It's highly unlikely any new players will come in until the Summer so any new manager has to really lick this bunch into shape before the Barcodes game.

If Pereira comes in and he turns things around, then he will be a hero for a short time until the new season starts but a few of his predecessors have started quite well then lost the plot.

Hope they see sense for a change, to pick a man who knows nothing about the Premier League and we're in 16th place, fair play to Laurel & Hardy.

No I don't think he's run it past the club, to be honest, but that's only my opinion. But I'm certainly not going to slag the club off on this one without a shred of evidence that they were complicit in the interview.

If it comes to light that the club were, then I'll call them!

It's worse than your worst nightmare.

The damage from this period in our history will take years and years to recover from if we ever will. Any new manager now just seems like a sticking plaster again and, without any apparent vision, we are screwed.

Didn't say anything that me or any other bloke down the pub could say about passion, intensity, high pressing blah blah. Spoke about his CV speaking for itself – What CV!!!

Hasn't kept a job and only took Villas Boas team at Porto to the title before it imploding.

Never mind Frank Lampard, I'd rather have Frank Spencer than this bloke.

I hope you mean on Great Homer Street. That's the only stall he should qualify for. I used to think it was only the inept poisonous of the chairman at EFC but it's at every turn.

Or was he advised by his interviewee's to go on the offensive, to try and justify their preference?

I want Pereira now. I like how he came out swinging. I want this shit show over with. Get him in. Get him working with these players. Pressing game with possession. Yes please.

Enough is enough, So get your coat on and get moving 'cos we don't know the meaning of losing. So come on, come on, get down to Goodison Park. Wooooo

If he does, at least we'll be guaranteed some good loan deals from Chelsea.

It's another Everton first, to go with the under-soil heating and the three-tier stand.

Talk about degrading, insulting and desperate. If he's prepared to do that,under instruction, he would have zero control over any of the football and do as he's told.

Frank Lampard? A fantastic player, won everything, loves Everton (well, certainly loved scoring against us!) would develop a young, modern attacking team and takes no shit (ask Klopp).

Understands British football, always did the right things to prolong his career,loyal and showed great dignity when Chelsea offed him.

A modern player, the current player's would identify with and could only be impressed by his career, so would listen to him. A winner.

Give the guy what he wants and back him. My sort of Everton Manager. (Please)

I could live with him or Lampard. Anyone who changes our brain-dead team.

The fact that he is the choice of Joorabchian is a clear and obvious warning of the likely direction of the club.

And in other news today, astronomers have discovered a unique object deep in outer space that releases huge amounts of energy three times every hour. Perhaps the powers at Finch Farm should invest in a telescope so some of our players can watch and learn?

Hear me out, people are bugging up Lampard, Rooney…. To me I would rather have Vitor.

I want someone with some bloody passion. I want someone running down the line when we score, winding up the opposition, complaining to ref's and 4th officials about poor decisions, if we are going down I at least want us to go down fighting and I think this guy will at least do that. Bring passion and some desire to us. I don't understand the big vendetta against him.

We hired Martinez who had won an F.A cup, we hired Marco Silva would had won nothing, Big Sam – Nothing. Carlo a lot of stuff and Rafa a lot of stuff but to be fair to Vitor, he's won stuff aswell, ok the leagues aren't the best but you still have to get drive and passion from your players. I actually feel like this guy could be our Klopp. Who was he before Dortmund took a chance on him? … I just don't know about Frank Lampard shouts. Will he show passion or desire or are we just another stepping stone for a guy who was sacked from Chelsea in like a year.

But, whoever gets the nod he has to have our full support COYB.

Players that don't or won't play for the manager, or are just not good enough, a board room that's akin to a kindergarten, manager's coming and going through what seems revolving doors and fans that have had enough, with banners and flypasts and graffiti, hoping there choice of manager, or owner, or Chairman will happen.

Where will it all end???

Lampard showed plenty of passion at Derby and Chelsea.

Remember his spat with Klippety?

Set the four lines of your first chapter to music and you've got the beginnings of a great protest son. I highly recommend the band Fontaines DC for inspiration.

Edit: Chris beat me to it!!

I was okay with Lampard before I read your post and now I am in his corner. Well done.

I was okay with Lampard before I read your post and now I am in his corner. Well done.

The term “The Cobra Effect” (sometimes also called “perverse results”) refers to what happens when the attempt to fix a problem actually makes that problem worse.

The name comes from the following incident:

Concerned over the large number of poisonous snakes in Delhi, India the British government offered a bounty for each dead cobra turned in. While initially many cobras were captured and surrendered for the bounty, people soon began breeding cobras in order to get the money. Unhappy with paying for farmed snakes instead of wild ones, the government cancelled the program.

Since the snakes no longer had any value, the cobra breeders went out of business and released their inventory into the wild.

Instead of decreasing the number of poisonous snakes, the net result of the cobra bounty program was to substantially increase the number of wild cobras in the country

I couldn't agree more. I wanted him in the summer when available, he would gain respect of all the players.

Sign him up, and give him a fighting chance to sign a couple of players.

He is (and was even before the Sky interview) my choice if its between him and Lampard. Don't get all this hate towards him tbh!!!

To me, he ticks more boxes than most and I would be happy (relieved) if he took over.

I have also come around to the idea of Lampard. I think he has something to prove as a young manager and, in the words of his namesake, “if he can do it here, he can do it anywhere.”

He would surely have the gravitas with the players relative to other candidates.

Seeing Bill baracked outside the ground and his staggering responses and reading the revelations about Kia Joorabchian's connection with the club is worrying.

It's good to see that apathy doesn't rule amongst Evertonians and that we are all making a concerted effort to influence our moronic board. NSNO.

Pereira lost 11/20 to get 1860 Munich relegated to the "third tier", and Joorabchian was the agent who got him the job. No thanks!

An idiot threw a bottle which, like a famous magic, bullet, took out half the Villa celebrants. The culprit should be ashamed of himself as he disgraced our club and supporters. The Villa cowards, cheats and frauds disgraced their club and football and are incapable of shame.

I hope you are capable of being ashamed of the ludicrous link you have made between the two entirely separate events.

If I lived anywhere near, I'd be there tonight.

Out of all the candidates, his overhyping seems the most incredulous.

See the footage – it was multiple bottles.

Scum, the lot.

Disenchanted and disillusioned. I can accept a crap team as seen it many times over the years, but this is just horrid.

That could throw off an entire ecosystem.

I think it's what Kia has been doing; it's how he makes his money I believe. :)

Don't you have any contacts in the national media or TV that could be trusted to make points about the involvement & influence of this Joorabchian on our club & owner? Surely this could be presented in a way so as not to be legally challenged.

Perhaps making all this public, rather than just shared between us fans, could have the desired effect on Moshiri's decision making. Worth a try?

At the moment I would prefer Moshiri to go & stay at Goodison. I despair at the way our club is being run, especially since the advent of Moshiri.

Of all the managers tenuously linked, I think Lucien Favre would be a perfect fit for us right now, to build a team as we head to the new stadium. Sadly, for whatever reason, he doesn't look like he is being as seriously considered. Today it's looking like the board have made it a binary choice between Lampard and Pereira.

But this is Everton 2022… tomorrow it could be all change again. I hope someone is sorted soon as the two central midfielders we need are almost as important as the manager and it would be good if the manager had a say in any options we have recruiting them.

I hope so. I think a "light your hair on fire" foreign manager isn't the right choice at this moment.

It's all really a mess, isn't it?

Frank would get us on the front foot, as best as he could with this group of players. And I'd tip him to be able to find a young midfielder who could step in and increase the tempo and get us on the front foot.

Give me a carbon copy of Lampard going to Chelsea and bringing Mount with him, playing forward and entertaining footy, and I'd be very, very happy.

For that reason alone and not withstanding his very underwhelming carrier he should be told to fuck off. The cheeky sod.

I don't give a shit who takes over and frankly some of us need to step back and look at the state of our club. Any appointment will be only till the end of Season, give him a bonus if we stay up, then we have a massive re- construction of personnel from top to bottom, a Summer of soul-searching.

All this is doing my head in, and I'm not the only one; let's show the football world we are better than that. COYB

Moshiri has to bite the bullet and remove those people who disagree with him from positions of power – even if it's only soft power – and 'own' the club and its fortunes.

Bill does not own the club, he is only a glorified fan and if he can't or doesn't agree with the owner he should resign, if this action is detrimental to his friends within the club so be it; if his friends lose their jobs becuase he can't protect them, so be it.

What can't continue is this farcical approach by all involved as it besmirches the club's reputation and hurts the people who care the most the fans.

Hire a Yank!

"Moshiri has to bite the bullet and remove those people who disagree with him from positions of power - even if it's only soft power - and 'own' the club and its fortunes. "

I'd rather have boy's pen Blue Bill in full control than our Mr Bean owner Moshiri, he's way more dangerous to our chances of staying up than Kenwright.

Moshiri is now "The" problem, regardless of what Kenwright has done.

Let me explain: Lampard has said that he will not take over a club mid-season. It's nothing to do with relegation prospects, it's that he insists on having a full pre-season with the players he's going to manage.

Therefore, Everton want him for the start of next season.

What to do meantime? Pereira has been offered [and will accept] a contract to the end of this season. There will be an option for a further year, but it is a one-way option; ie, the club can activate it, the manager can't.

Pereira is regarded as a good crisis manager and firefighter, but not the man to build a team for the future. Lampard is regarded as a good team-builder, but not the man to fight a fire.

If all this is true, it may be the least horrible of a series of unpalatable choices.

He says he wants to play high pressing, possession football, his teams score loads of goals and he seems to be a passionate man who doesn't take shit from anyone.

Igniting some passion and motivating the current squad might be just what we need so if he gets the nod how about we get behind him and the team instead of mindless vandalism and wishing failure on him before he's even managed a single game?

Is Andy Reid available? He'd have to be an improvement over some of the chancers who are being linked with the club currently.

At least that way the disgruntled would have an actual target to focus on and who knows perhaps Moshiri would actually start making better decisions, when he is the sole person publicly responsible for those decisions.

The silver bullet for me would be for Moshiri to sell up and any new owner coming in, to clear the decks and begin afresh.Unfortunately that's unlikely to happen and we're stuck with both Moshiri and Bill. It's a bad situation but something has to give before it can possibly be fixed.

Clearly clueless about Everton's history even our Red pal Rafa mentioned Peter Reid! This fella would take us down and there would be horrific repercussions for the club.

Thank you to all the fans who have actively protested. You are doing all in your power to protect our club which is precious to each and every one of us. Perhaps we all turn out backs for a period of time next home game in silence before turning to roar the team on.

Also, as Ped on Toffee TV said, perhaps we could boycott the shop, refuse to buy beer in the ground, online merchandise etc.

If Lampard gets it, I think he will do well. He did okay at Derby and Chelsea and will know that, if he can get it right here, we are historically one of the biggest and best in the land. COYB.

The problem we have is with the squad. While we have some good players and so up-and-coming individuals we are so missing quality in midfield it is untrue. If we don't bring in one or two quality players in this area before transfer deadline, I don't think even Pep would be able to keep us up.

Please oh please bolster the midfield; we have quality up front, they just need the service.

The vitriol here isn't personal, it's professional. Nobody has said anything negative about Vitor the human being.

But as for Pereira the manager, he has accomplished nothing that's relevant to Everton. He has never managed in a top-tier league, and he won his four titles with clubs that were supposed to win their weaker leagues, clubs that won titles both before and after his tenure there.

And hoping for a manager more qualified and accomplished than Pereira is not "wishing failure on him" -- it's just expecting that failure would be the result of his appointment. That's not personal vitriol. But it's something that everybody here would take very personally.

Tom #395, not a bad idea, but I'm not sure our players would understand the Midwest Americanisms filtering through that brushy mustache of his. Besides, he's kinda busy for the next couple of weeks.

Yes, and he has asked for Chas and Dave to be played at half-time!

Actually we do have some good London Evertonians... Andy King, Tony Cottee, Graham Stuart, Super Kevin Campbell!

1860 Munich is not exactly a top club. Believe me. I used to follow German football for a long time. They were a yo yo club at best. Been relegated numerous times before.

To me it doesn't prove anything because, when he took over, they were already doomed. Not that Pereira is my prefered choice for the job. Like many others I'd rather go for either Favre, Fonseca or Garcia. Any of them will do for me.

Mike #401.

I beg to differ. In Portugal there are 2 other big clubs as well, namely Benfica and Sporting, so I don't think Porto are supposed to win the title each season!

We could have had Digne still at the club. Instead, we wasted the money on two inexperienced players in positions that should not have been a priority (Coleman and Digne would have taken us to the end of the season). We have less than a week to bring in at least two midfielders.

The press say that Dele Alli is waiting to see who is manager before potentially committing to Everton. I would think he would prefer Lampard, who knows his play and knows the Premier League. The board should not underestimate the ability of Lampard to bring in players both short and long term. His connections with Chelsea alone are worth something. He took Mount to Derby.

Fair point on wanting someone better, I'm with you there. I don't understand why Kovac or Garcia are seemingly being overlooked.

Not with you on diminishing Pereira's achievements by saying he was “supposed to” win his league titles though. No such thing as “supposed to” in professional sports, apart from maybe Celtic following Rangers' demotion :)

To the crowd wanting Big Dunc: His record as caretaker manager reads 1 win in 4 with just 4 goals scored (3 in one game). He's not the answer.

Loved the guy as a player but has already demonstrated zero tactical acumen and some very questionable team selections. He would surely take us down.

No matter who we blame, it appears that the owner has wanted instant success and thought that backing the manager with finances he would get it. What he didn't realize was what a difficult league the premier is with a poor squad, and how long a new manager takes to build up a strong squad to build a platform to start competing for trophies.

You need leadership from the top and that leads to improvement all through the club. But it seems we are being run by a one man band who called the shots, and disguised his shortcomings with the purchase of the Royal Liver Building and the promise of a new ground.

He appointed a Chairman who he believed would keep the club in a decent position in the league, or to take the flack if things went sideways, take your pick.

Between the two of them the club has deteriorated into a laughing stock, that can be shown by the type of manager we are now attracting for an interview.

No matter who they hire they will find that as each manager has been brought in, the job to keep Everton in the premier gets harder and harder, not only to get a decent position in the league but now to keep them in the league.

At Porto he took over a team that had won five titles in six years. Not to diminish in any way that he won two more, but the fact is that he was expected to.

Bottom line is... he has won with good teams, lost with bad ones, and all in lower-level leagues. There is nothing in his resume that suggests the ability to salvage and rebuild a troubled team of limping internationals in the most competitive league in the world.

Note: I'm not advocating for Pereira; I'm merely pointing out that he has won things, comes across passionate and motivational, and is not as bad as some on here say.

With the apparent removal of Duncan Ferguson from the list of possible mangers, my personal vote for manager would be Frank Lampard.

If Frank falls out, my second choice would be to allow Dunc to manage through mid-February, and then bring in Andy Reid from the Kansas City Chiefs after they win the Super Bowl. I believe Andy could lure Patrick Mahomes away from KC to Everton. Everton are desperately crying out for a real leader and quarterback.

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I'd be delighted with Kovac, Garcia, Gracia or most especially Martinez. (Diego, not Roberto.) I'd be pleased with Favre, Lampard or Valverde. At this point I'd even be satisfied with Nuno or Fonseca.

After being awash in debates about Dunc, Wayne, Roberto and Vitor, I would be easy to please right about now.

He has a go at playing chairman but falls on his face as more of his money flows down the toilet. He got lucky when Carlo was available but Carlo got the hell out of Dodge when he saw the size of the mess.

So he turns to Joorabchian the snake and his gangster friend to get advice from Abramovich and he hires Benitez, who turns out to be a kopite terrorist who blows up a sizeable piece of the club infrastructure before he is fired.

The best thing that he can do is stop trusting his instincts and his sleazy associates and listen to the fans. There is a small chance that he may get it right this time but don't bet on it. He might have had more fun and success throwing his money around in Las Vegas.

I'm in Kansas City and they'll be hell to pay if Andy or Patrick skip town.

Then again, I love a little anarchy.

If you look at his manager appointments, with the exception of Rafa and Sam, most would on paper be decent – plus the fact he's bankrolled all of em with silly money makes me think he's not the villain here.

Have a go at Kenwright all you want but leave Moshiri alone – it could get worse.

He is punching above his weight... has he got what it takes to play and do well in the Premier League? He thinks he can, but this would be a gamble too far, me thinks...

Oy vey!, and no, I'm not Jewish, it's just that I think it sounds more polite than "What the fuck do you knobheads know about even running a fucking errand, never mind one of twelve clubs that founded the first ever football fucking league?"

If you look closely at where the mob sprayed onto Bills head at Goodison, it was in fact a speach bubble that read "l love Don Alexander" Fact.

Moshiri was nowhere to be seen when Koeman was playing golf and spending stupid money on shit players. Big mistake because the person he had left to look after the club was not doing his job and nobody stepped in.

He has continued to put his trust in a failed board. Big mistake and clearly not learning.

He has put trust in people spending his money on more crap players, he has appointed two of the worst managers in our history so if he feels it's not his fault then he should have sacked the board.

I also felt for Moshiri because he's lost a lot of money but the same board are still there, plus a dangerous super agent hovering around, so he is clearly out of his depth and is now dragging us down due to his own inaction and naivety against the current board or finding professional people to replace them.

He is simply not cut out to be making decisions and therefore we are stuck with a really shit board of directors. It's simple really.

Get rid of them and appoint a professional board to run the club. By doing this, he could then site back in Monaco and watch the stadium progress with no need to get involved. We would all be on his side if he did this.

I won't hold my breath on it though.

When he pulled his money out of Arsenal, we ended up getting Koeman as manager who had been strongly linked with the Arsenal job. They, like us, have been in a mess due to the influence of Joorabchian in transfer dealings.

He brokered the Alex Iwobi transfer to us. He is obviously poisoning the pot now at Everton and seems to be the main advisor to Moshiri. Alarm bells should ring out loud with this guy and his cronies.

5 days to go, including today. What a joke. We have become a laughing stock. Last day panic buys! We never get it right.

Seriously, watch the games to see how rubbish he was? So Everton away at Norwich. The players or Rafa? Who do you want?

It's now 27 January and we still don't know what is happening. This just epitomises the current state of the club, and the people running it.

I hope it's Lampard, but if I was him I'd have serious reservations about joining this circus. He also has his career to consider; if this goes wrong, he'll struggle to get another Premier League job.

Very interesting, where can we read these reports you speak of or are you just stirring it?

Certainly, Dele Alli would be a great signing but who is at he club now to pursue this signing...

£22.5m target waiting for Everton manager appointment before making decision

Does the Board as a whole have a meeting and make a long list or even a short list?

Do Kenwright and Moshiri go head-to-head discussing who they want?

Does Moshiri do this on his own or with Usmanov or even with Joorabchian? I know that ultimately it's Moshiri's decision, but is it totally a one man process.

Then who does he consider? Does he look at who's doing a good job with a so-called smaller club? Potter at Brighton,Cooper at Forest? Corberan at Huddersfied or even Rooney at Derby. Somehow I don't think this stage is even considered as we seem to go for "names". The bigger the better.

Then does he interview his preferred candidate on his own? With the Board? With Usmanov? Kenwright?

There's so little transparency with the process, possibly it's the same at every club. Who appointed Rangnick at Old Trafford?

It's just that Moshiri's track record is so appalling, one hopes that he is using other minds, men (or women) who are instinctive and knowledgeable football people (not Jim White).

It seems to be stabs in the dark, there is no coherent philosophy, no awareness of aims, objectives, methods. Just a hope that the next big name will miraculously solve the problem.

Who's your choice then?

I hope that's not a euphonism, poor girl... ;)

That's the first thing I have laughed at in days – thank you.

Lampard lost his job at Chelsea in January 2021 - I wonder if he applied for the Everton job when Carlo jumped ship?

As for Pereira, if the money in China is as good as it has been suggested then he won't be short of a quid after 3 years there.

My understanding is that he has been offered a 4-month contract with a possible extra year if we stay up.

The experienced Mrs Doyle is the current bookies favourite for the post but there is support for Mrs Wilson of Nimrod Street as she is available and lives in the area. She has however been dabbling in Chinese Green Tea and even some loose Oolong lately and that may count against her.

The majority share holder is thought to favour a 'Portuguese hothead' Delores De Largo, but she is known to be something of a teacup thrower which may not be welcomed in the dressing room. De Largo today took the unusual step of bursting into the 'This Morning' TV studio and forcing Earl Grey and Ginger Nuts down Philip Schofield's throat in an attempt to swing the decision her way.

Fans protested outside the stadium last night, calling for an end to this farcical process and demanding that an automatic tea machine be installed instead.

"My understanding is that he has been offered a 4 month contract with a possible extra year if we stay up".

Any source for the reason that's your understanding?