Davies returns to training

I wasn't going to put it quite as harshly but if he is fit I don't seeing him making a difference this season or any other.

Meanwhile Donny VdB is still out, as is Gomes, so Tom Davies might be rushed back faster than he and we expected over the next week or two.

On one hand, he is a Jonjoe Kenny. You see potential and want them to succeed.

But on the other, are they good enough? I haven't seen enough to be honest.

But then how much have they both been victims of the uncertainty that has plagued our club? Let alone established players, how are youngsters supposed to develop when the right hand is not talking to the right hand and we have 6 managers in just as many years?

At times this season he could have done a job for us had he been fit too.

If we stay up though a squad player at best (thankfully a cheap 1 based on wages).

"To be fair, if we go down, he will likely be a regular starter."

Only because we will be in administration and unable to off load him to any buyer

If this club really wants to move forward long term and try to push themselves up the table, then we are going to have to have better players than him.

In case you've forgotten we are almost financially embarrassed and anybody sold will be to lessen the debt, not to lash out on new players until Mr Usmanov finds another way to sponsor something, which will be a long way away.

Players who put the effort in, like Tom Davies, will be needed whether we stay up or not and even if he isn't a first choice certainly a squad member and most definitely if we do go down as our "better" players won't want Championship football.

Gbamin has been doing OK but he has a new manager now — Alan Pardew — who seemingly was so troubled by threats from Putin and Lavrov to nuke Britain this week that he's decided to move to Russia and takeover CSKA Moscow.

I know Alan Shearer after Kashogi, and Mike Gatting in South Africa wheeled out the old “I don't keep up with politics” line but FFS, what a moment for Pardew to go to Russia.

I liked him as a player at Palace and thought he was underrated as a manager but swanning off to Russia while they're bombing Ukraine and threatening to nuke your own country! Sorry Alan but you've gone down in my estimation.

Pardew? I can't go with underrated. For me he's in that batch of British managers that got away with it because they were British and kept getting jobs.

Also, wasn't he the one who done that awkward and embarrassing "dad dance" thing at Wembley? Not that I should judge his managerial ability on that. Just saying.

I'm thinking of his time at Newcastle when he had zero money and had them in the Top 6 mix.

I think the league has gone even more uncompetitive since those days. Forget the Top 6. There is now a Top 2 and a Bottom 2. The rest can literally finish anywhere in between.

Anyway, it's Saturday morning and we don't play until tomorrow. Give I called it, what's the view on embarrassing manager moments:

1. Pardew's "dance"

2. Tony Adams's sprint coaching session in Spain as the players looked on bemused.

3. Moyes's attempt at Spanish.

Vote / discuss.

'But then how much have they both been victims of the uncertainty that has plagued our club? Let alone established players, how are youngsters supposed to develop when the right hand is not talking to the right hand and we have 6 managers in just as many years?'

But Tom is local and for some reason local players are given more slack, and have an easier ride. Just like Kenny, nowhere near good enough.

I would hope the club recognise that the pressure on homegrown players is greater here at Everton. I'm afraid to say many of the fans love nothing more than knocking down a local lad, shortly after they have piled their enormous and frankly unrealistic expectations upon the player's shoulders for a season or two.

Agree wholeheartedly about Lookman though, he looks like the player now everyone expected him to be. Not sure if there is an attitude problem or not but he couldn't wait to get out of our club. It's almost like we mishandled him somehow, surely not though, that would be negligent and we all know how well run our club is.

He might never develop into the player we all hoped for but no need for such a crass comment

I think that he is underrated and his best is yet to come.

We've doubted certain players having the heart for this campaign. Well we know Pickford, Richarlison, Seamus and Gordon do. Tom would number amongst them if fit.

Maybe that label can be tagged to every single player, manager, coach, physio and board member etc. of our great club.

On the flip side, if your looking at players that may be good enough for a top 4 / top 6 Premier league side I can't see too many stand out candidates.

I never understand why some fans always target the young local lads as being the problem. Frequent comments like, "he only gets a chance because he's young", "never good enough", "robbing a wage".

A good young player with potential will never improve if they are not given a chance.

If you think the ex-acadamy players are robbing a wage and are not worth the money, then I wouldn't like to witness what you would do to several expensive senior player's who have played regularly and got us into a relegation scrap.

I'd much rather a few Tom Davies' in the squad over a Siggy, Delph, Mina or Moise (?) Keans.

ps I rate Mina but if he's only fit for 10 games a season he has to go.

As Danny says, neither Tom or Jonjoe have played in settled teams after being managed by about six different managers, they can still be part of our first team squad in the Premier League next season, hopefully.