Season › 2024-25 › News Everton's Ndiaye Problem More Than A Game, Substack 01/10/2025 16comments | Jump to last The arrival of Jack Grealish has seen Iliman Ndiaye switched from the left side — where he played all of last season — to the right side, which seems less natural for him. A big issue is where Ndiaye is receiving the ball in the build-up. The Senegal international tends to drop deep, but when playing on the left, he looks much more comfortable at taking the ball onto his stronger right side and opening up the pitch, taking on multiple defenders and allowing Everton to get up the pitch. Jack Grealish is rightly stationed out left, but on the right, Ndiaye’s ability to carry the ball is somewhat negated. He is turning onto his weaker side, and then is not a natural winger — he isn’t going to get chalk on his boots or deliver a killer cross; that is simply not his game. » Read the full article at More Than A Game Reader Comments (16) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer () Michael Kenrick Editorial Team 1 Posted 02/10/2025 at 08:42:29 The heatmaps in this article show a startling contrast in how Ndiaye has been employed this season compared to last. The article goes on to reflect a range of ideas that our readers have already suggested on a number of current threads. Dave Abrahams 2 Posted 02/10/2025 at 08:57:34 The main problem is caused by the manager and his coaches who dont seem to the big problem we all see, they dont seem to want to change the way we have been playing most of the season, the writer even got it wrong, to me, by stating Grealish is rightly stationed out left, why is he stationed there? Isnt he mobile enough to move around the pitch? What or who is stopping him? Has he got the energy to play central? Hes definitely not doing enough playing like he is.Lets see what Moyes and his coaching staff come up with for the Palace game when they forced to replace the absent Dewsbury Hall who also goes missing quite often in the games hes played up to now, is he being played in the wrong position?Have Moyess coaches got a voice between them to let Moyes know what they think? Lots of questions there—I hope they come up with some answers! Robert Tressell 3 Posted 02/10/2025 at 09:02:36 All of the same points made over summer because it was very predictable.Grealish and Nidiaye occupy same position on the left.One of Grealish or Ndiaye could move inside but it forces KDH back (where hes not so good) or out of the side altogether.Neither Grealish nor Ndiaye are good on the right. Dibling is.The side will have better balance if we drop one of Grealish, Ndiaye or KDH - and use Dibling at RW.The alternative is to play Ndiaye as a striker as some have suggested - which would allow us to play him, Grealish, Dibling and KDH together. I have my doubts because teams which do this successfully tend to have flying attacking full backs and more pace. We dont have a single player in the whole squad who can go on the outside with pace and put in a cross. That is seriously hindering our attacking play - and will hinder us whatever the formation and personnel Colin Glassar 4 Posted 02/10/2025 at 09:09:55 I think the common denominator amongst most managers is their absolute belief and confidence in themselves. They cant, or refuse, to see when things arent working which maybe clear to fans.Thats why so many lose their jobs. Their stubbornness is their downfall.I hope Moyes sees the need for tactical tweaks as since the Aston Villa game weve become a bit stale and recent results are reflecting this. Liam Mogan 5 Posted 02/10/2025 at 09:31:01 Robert 3 - Very few wingers in the PL go on the outside and put a cross in? I watched CL last night and it was something the commentators were bemoaning on there.Its linked to right footers playing on the left and vice versa. They nearly all come inside naturally. Having overlapping full backs would help, as you say, but even then crossing from wide is less common than it was. Maybe it'll make a comeback as the fashion seems to be for teams to be more direct? Robert Tressell 6 Posted 02/10/2025 at 09:41:25 Liam - all good high scoring teams have plenty of pace and at least a few players who go on the outside and put in crosses (high or low). It doesnt need to come from wingers. But it needs to come from somewhere. Liam Mogan 7 Posted 02/10/2025 at 09:52:17 I think you're right on pace Robert. Just don't see as many crosses as we used to.I don't think it would matter if we put crosses in atm. By the time we get to the opposition box, there are that many defenders in there and so few of ours that it would be pointless.It was telling that our goal on Monday came from a cross after a corner, when we had bodies in the box.Another observation is that neither Grealish nor Ndiaye (has he ever put a cross in?) regularly put deliveries in the box. They both chew it, which allows the defence to regroup and mark tightly, and limits any overlapping space anyway.I'm in the minority camp that actually feels sorry for Beto and Barry (although admittedly neither are top class) as they are constantly double or triple marked and never get good delivery from out wide. Phillip Warrington 8 Posted 02/10/2025 at 10:01:22 Play him through the middle with Dewsbury-Hall as the playmakers, and Garner playing in behind them. Grealish on the left and Dibling on the right. Colin Glassar 9 Posted 02/10/2025 at 10:18:35 Robert, Liam, the main problem is everyone tries to imitate what were once successful, revolutionary tactics, ie, playing out from the back, inverted wingers, players lying on the floor behind a wall (ridiculous waste of a player), the false No 9 etc….Everyone wants to copy the “big boys” but, if you don't have the players or the squad to do that, then play to your players' strengths. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Liam Mogan 10 Posted 02/10/2025 at 10:32:06 Players lying on the floor makes me laugh, Colin. Someone was lying on the floor the other day (forget the game) but wasn't tall and the taker just targeted the bit he couldn't cover!My U18 team asked me last week who should lie on the floor when we conceded a free kick. I just shook my head and told them to bloody defend properly. Robert Tressell 11 Posted 02/10/2025 at 11:22:15 By 'cross', I am not just talking about a high ball into the box for a header. I am treating cut backs across the face of the goal as crosses too. Might be semantics. Colin, you are right. This happens a lot. I don't think Moyes has done this particularly this season though. He's mostly played a fairly conventional 4-2-3-1 formation. Liam Mogan 12 Posted 02/10/2025 at 11:36:46 Yes, Robert, crosses are not just in the air, but even so there's still not many of them!My prediction is that in the next few seasons we will see the 'revolutionary' tactic of players going to the byeline and pulling the ball back rather than going inside all the time. This will go hand in hand with the long throw innovation and the cutting-edge technique of smashing it into touch from kick off like Johnny Wilkinson! Colin Glassar 13 Posted 02/10/2025 at 11:46:58 Well, if route one balls and long throw-ins are back in fashion, maybe some bright spark might reintroduce wingers and a big, burly, centre-forward in the box. Maybe tackling could be brought back.Whoever does his would be seen as a visionary and a revolutionary. Pep and Co wouldn't like it but who cares? Bring back football. Conor McCourt 14 Posted 02/10/2025 at 12:03:09 2 points on this thread that are important.Firstly, we do have 2 players in the squad who can get past the winger and put a delivery from the by-line. Garner is the obvious one and, while Patterson has many weaknesses, this is his main weapon.Secondly, and what hasn't been mentioned, is that Ndiaye also gets isolated when on the right. He doesn't have a full-back to take runners away, to overlap or to play quick one-twos.Moreover, Dewsbury-Hall's positioning is also a problem in my view for both wingers. He always takes up an inside-left position rather than being central. Against West Ham, everything went down our left.Ndiaye only looked dangerous when Garner bombed forward on the right, leaving his defensive midfield role. Good understanding of the game by Jimmy but he should not have to do this.Furthermore, Dewsbury-Hall's positioning made Jack's task that much more difficult as the midfielders and central defenders easily shifted more to their right and we're able to condense that area of the pitch. When Jack had joy in the earlier games, he was isolated wide on the touchline with one or two markers where he either took them on or was able to switch the play to make room for others. Jake FitzGerald 15 Posted 02/10/2025 at 12:16:04 Just looking at the heat maps showing right vs left flanks is depressing, as you say, Conor, with nobody running in behind Ndiaye.Every team knows how we'll pan out now and do a West Ham down our right. Dunno why Ndiaye and Grealish don't swap flanks mid game anymore -- that worked; I hope Moyes hasn't banned them using their initiative like that. And bring on Patterson as a wingback midway through the 2nd half to get balls into the box. Oh, and throw everything at getting Juanlu in January. Bobby Mallon 16 Posted 02/10/2025 at 19:24:43 Dave 2 well said. Add Your Comments In order to post a comment, you need to be logged in as a registered user of the site. » Log in now Or Sign up as a ToffeeWeb Member — it's free, takes just a few minutes and will allow you to post your comments on articles and Talking Points submissions across the site. How to get rid of these ads and support TW © ToffeeWeb