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Moyes: We panicked a bit

by | 17/02/2013

David Moyes thought his team panicked a bit in the last five minutes at Oldham and was disappointed not to see the game out.

Moyes told EvertonTV: "We are still in the FA Cup but we are disappointed that we didn't win it because we should have done better to either score another goal or to see it out.

"We had the chances to get the third goal but when you score two goals in any game you hope to win it."

Oldham's late charge saw them launch the ball high into Everton's box time and again, before forcing a succession of late corners.

"We just couldn't get a head or the goalie's hands on it," said Moyes of the final set-piece. "I thought there was a foul on the goalkeeper from the previous corner.

"I thought we could see it out but in the last five minutes we looked as if we were panicking a bit and we didn't do the right things."

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Ralph Basnett
243 Posted 17/02/2013 at 19:33:44
Can't be Dave's fault, he only buy, trains and selects the team to beat the mighty Oldham, and if we scrape through this game we finally get a home tie where we can be embarrassed by another team we should be beating
Ian Allaker
252 Posted 17/02/2013 at 19:34:01
The substitution was needed to help combat the threat of Smith but it still didnt work. Smith would cause problems for any team with his aerial prowess, especially with the quality of cross that was put in and with the opposition goal keeper swinging his arms about trying to puch Howard. Its easy to sit back and criticise with hindsight but I think the majority would have agreed with the substitution at the time.
Barry Rathbone
255 Posted 17/02/2013 at 19:41:15
He's a great laugh is Dave I wonder what he'll come up with next?

"Not arsed about Everton just looking after numero uno!"

As if...

Derek Williams
257 Posted 17/02/2013 at 19:45:57
The substitution made sense, it just didn't work. If they had scored without Moyes having brought on Duffy he'd have got stick for that. Hindsight is a wonderful gift which gives everyone 20/20 vision!!

On another day another ref might have disallowed it anyway with all the shoving, blocking and arm waving by their keeper that was going on. That bloke's a handful at six-foot-six, we need to do better by blocking off the service to him in the replay. No needless corners would be a start.

George McKane
258 Posted 17/02/2013 at 19:43:02
Then I'm in the minority.

I was there and myself and the four friends with me all agreed that it was a bad substitution and bad timing. The comment was that he'd got away with it at Bolton but would he again?

Most teams would know how to play the minute /seconds out — get the ball down the oppositions end and hold it in the corner or something. But for that you have to have a forward up front. We all expected the goal — it was obvious to all of us that the ball would just keep coming back into our box and something would happen.

But of course we pay to watch Everton and we were all critical of the (yet again) negative response. It was Oldham — couldn't we at least out-think them? Or — dare I say — out-play them???

Ben Jones
259 Posted 17/02/2013 at 19:48:40
That really is poor Michael, blaming it on the substitution. Maybe it was because we couldn't handle Smith's height, or maybe it was because we couldn't kill Oldham off with the third goal.

I mean I'm up for blaming Moyes when he deserves it, but this is bordering on ridiculous.

Andrew Yates
260 Posted 17/02/2013 at 19:46:25
We put out a full strength side against Oldham and came away embarrased, very annoying Moyes just doesn't accept we weren't good enough to beat Oldham, penniless, lowly little Oldham, they wanted it more and we didn't. Pants, no excuses.
Brian Harrison
275 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:03:27
I would think the people to blame for not winning this game was the players. We had 11 internationals on that pitch now you would have thought one of them would have said make sure one of our tallest players marks Smith for the last corner of the game. I don't know what it is with modern day players that they cant think for themselves, its like watching young children playing were the coach has to instruct them on every move.

Moyes picked our strongest team and they were not good enough, I think this game tells us more about a lack of decision making by our players than any failing the manager might have.

Paul David
280 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:14:14
Only panic in the last 5 mins?

So the previous 85 mins of hoofing was a calm measured approach.

Paul Wilson
288 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:31:46
All of this will be forgotten when we are at Wembley. Yes, it was annoying letting a late equaliser in but Oldham have had their chance and we will put them out at Goodison; then it is a very favourable draw against Wigan.
Christian Hoff
291 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:32:34
Can someone please tell me why we still use Neville at right back?! He is caught out of position so many times... and when challenged, he backs all the way in to the dangerous area.

Give £4M Stones a chance!! Or Oviedo.

James Stewart
299 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:45:46
Nothing wrong with that sub. Howard doesn't command his 6-yard line never mind the box. Great shot-stopper but costs us far too many sloppy goals
Dick Fearon
302 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:47:51
Why is it that hoofing only works when it is against us?
Mark Dunford
309 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:55:32
I'm rarely in favour of bringing on a defender in the closing minutes and it has cost in the recent past – eg, at Fulham earlier this year – when it draws a team on to you. However, I thought bringing on Duffy was a reasonable move yesterday as we needed height and strength. We still had an outlet up front.

Oldham is an awful place to visit and we were a hairs breadth from winning. We're rightly favourites for the replay – not that this means we'll win.

Jackie Barry
312 Posted 17/02/2013 at 20:57:50
Last 5-minutes? Looked like we were struggling for a lot longer than that. Still if Dave doesn't want to take any blame for the team he puts together, selects to play, and the tactics he adopts then that's fine. Let's be honest though, even though I'm not sure it would have made any difference, has he ever held his hands up and said he made a mistake?

I like Moyes and he has done well with Everton considering; the problem for me is that he is pretty tactically inept when it comes to making game-changing decisions, either he leaves it too late or doesn't do it at all.

Colin Potter
323 Posted 17/02/2013 at 21:11:30
As far as I can remember Moyes has never ever taken the blame for anything that's gone wrong. He brought on Duffy with 90 seconds left on the clock, so the ref quite rightly adds another 30 secs. It disrupted the defence and we paid the penalty. He's done before and he will do it again because he just never learns.
Andy Cobham
325 Posted 17/02/2013 at 21:24:21
I thought the Oviedo and Duffy subs were good... Oviedo was intended to put a bit of pace on the left so that we could try and break on them, Duffy to look after the big grock. The problem came from the pitch and to an extent our inability to adapt properly to it bobbling all over the bloody place. At Goodison I'm fully expecting us to knock seven shades of shite out of them as we get it down and knock it round on the floor rather, which just wasn't possible last night. Ozzie, Pienaar and Mirallas just weren't in the game cos of the pitch and that won't happen at home on a good surface.
Andy Meighan
335 Posted 17/02/2013 at 21:40:08
Andy (#325) — Ossie, Pienaar and, to a lesser extent, Mirallas haven't done jack shit for Everton in recent games. So I'd love to know where you arrive with a statement like that. Oh, and by the way, our surface isn't exactly resembling a bowling green, is it? Only recently, the manager himself expressed concerns over it.

No, the truth is we've gone backwards in recent games and to me look a team devoid of ideas and creativity. And anyone thinking the Oldham replay and then possibly Wigan game will be cut and dried are seriously deluding themselves.

I think this contract business with Moyes is starting to have an effect on the players with some probably thinking, "I wonder where I stand?" I mean surely an incoming manager wouldn't be as loyal to underachieving players as Moyes has been... Would he? Or is that just me being naive?

Rob Baker
341 Posted 17/02/2013 at 22:05:44
Gutted at the late equaliser, felt it was coming. Got to deal with that aerial bombardment better, christ we dished it out with Big Dunc for years!

From what I saw on tele, Jelavic was poor once again and Neville looks hopeless at RB, I think his time is probably up. We will see off Oldham at home followed by Wigan and a semi-final vs Millwall or Blackburn would be a result!!

Robbie Shields
349 Posted 17/02/2013 at 22:05:24
Give me strength, I sometimes wonder how many of you on here have actually played football. Anyone who thinks you can bring on a defender when you are under the cosh and it won't introduce indecision, anxiety and confusion, especially very very late in the game simply doesn't have a clue and can't have played the game on a full sized pitch for any team, or if they did must have got a regular pasting.

In addition to the above it also invites MORE pressure, effectively what you are saying is, oh crap, we can't get out of our box and if I don't put an extra defender on they are going to score. Because you weaken your outlets either up front or in midfield you get yet more "phases" of attack, you know, wave after wave of corners and throw ins and hoofs into the box because you have no one up front or midfield to chase the ball and keep hold of it. Add on the extra 30 seconds introduced by making the sub in time added on and it's pathetic, defeatist, looser, tactically naive, suicidal and inept management.

Just my opinion like ;)

Personally, I can't wait for Moyes to go, give me Laudrup any day of the week.

Wayne Smyth
352 Posted 17/02/2013 at 22:13:00
So the way to beat a 6'6" striker, is to bring on a 6'3" defender?

How about the premier league team try to retain possession, and keep the ball at the other end of the pitch, where the team which is two leagues below is not able to use their 6'6" striker to head the ball into our net?

Or, perhaps after we get 1 goal ahead, we try to finish the game by looking for a 3rd, rather than sitting back on a 1 goal lead and waiting for the opposition to come onto us?

Rocket science, isn't it?

Lewis Barclay
353 Posted 17/02/2013 at 22:21:41
We should have spanked Oldham. We didn't.

A Jelavic hat-trick in the replay would make amends.

Robbie Shields
358 Posted 17/02/2013 at 22:21:28
Oh...... Forgot, it also gees up the attacking team and fans no end! They are all up for it big time now, now they don't have to defend and can even throw caution to the wind, like throw up defenders and even their goalie! After all, with no strikers on the pitch, the defending team is hardly likely to spring a lightning counter-attack, are they? Any panic hoofs out come straight back in the box, with all 22 players in there, hmmmmm, I wonder how the odds for a goal may have changed??????? Answers on a postcard to:

The Moyesiah
Apologist Road

Declan Burke
372 Posted 17/02/2013 at 22:47:09
Colin #323. No, he never learns. November, Fulham away. Leading 2-1. One minute left, Distin replaces Jelly. 30 seconds later, Fulham equalise. Two precious points down the tubes.
Ian Campbell
373 Posted 17/02/2013 at 22:40:05
Robbie Shields - Not really worth the second post - 90th minute substitute wouldn't gee up Oldham and their fans no end.

Also as for your first post when you are holding out for a 2-1 win it is inevitable that you will be under the cosh, the plan is to get the ball as far away from your own goal as possible, its human nature even if it would be more rational to try and play the same way as you did the first 90mins.

Love the fact that people like you highlight the fact that you may have played to a decent level, so have I but unless you have played for Celtic etc then i'm guessing that Moyes has played to a higher level than either of us.

Shane Corcoran
382 Posted 17/02/2013 at 23:10:30
Some of the TW headlines make me laugh.

The article is about Moyes view on the game, including how he felt the team panicked, but the headline shifts some of the blame his way.

Surely the story should be presented as it is and then discussed thereafter where any blame can be directed at Moyes?

Dick Fearon
399 Posted 18/02/2013 at 00:54:09
Jags was reported in the 'Post' saying Oldham would not bully Everton as they did the RS. O yeah!
Ian Campbell
402 Posted 18/02/2013 at 01:11:16
Not sure that a 94th minute header equates to bullying any more than Anichebe bullied there centre half for our goal.

We scored from a corner too.

Mark Sadler
405 Posted 18/02/2013 at 01:37:20
Perhaps we should just buy Smith - two goals against Liverpool - we need that type of player on our books
Spragg Johnson
421 Posted 18/02/2013 at 04:47:41
Tenuous claim ... Duffy surely is better equipped to deal with a corner? Their keeper with his hands up and an Oldham player barging Howard had a much bigger part to play than Jelavic getting subbed ... S@$t happens ... We have a chance to put it right ... Get over it.
Joe Clitherow
458 Posted 18/02/2013 at 09:17:51
Never let facts get in the way of a good agenda eh?

Irrespective of the football reasons of taking off a striker for a 6'3 centre half with seconds to go when you're winning, somehow Moyes is "extending the game" rather than than in actual fact burning up time as every single other team does in a similar position - without exception.

So we are clear there is a *fixed* amount of time - 30 seconds - for a substitution and the mechanics of substitution always takes longer than this, with a net result of reducing playing time. Clearly the sporting Moyes rushed the sub through in less than 30 seconds according to this completely unbiased piece.

Phil Bellis
465 Posted 18/02/2013 at 09:47:21
Whichever way you try to gloss over the last 5 mins Alamo performance, this was a ridiculous thing for the team to do
We weren't playing United ffs
Could you imagine the 80s team, with real on-field leaders panicking like that?
Just keep the ball and keep it away from the danger area

The replay will define this team - stand up and be counted or stand aside

Phil Walling
466 Posted 18/02/2013 at 10:04:42
But don`t some say Neville is only an automatic pick because of his unique leadership skills?
Phil Walling
471 Posted 18/02/2013 at 10:07:06
In spite of all that had been said pre=match,Everton WERE bullied out of a vctory at Oldham.Moyes took no chances,picked his best team and could have expected his very experienced players to show some nouse in the final minutes.That he found it necessary to introduce Duffy at the death indicated that he could not trust them to do so.
Sorry to say,this team (it`s hardly a squad!) will neither win the Cup nor finish above seventh in the League.Time for change,I think.
Phil Bellis
474 Posted 18/02/2013 at 10:30:03
Ha, nice one Phil
Reid, Southall, Gray, Ratcliffe, Mountfield and.......Pip
Something not quite right, there
John Maxwell
480 Posted 18/02/2013 at 10:39:03
The mindless minority have been screaming for Duffy for weeks, well you got him and guess what happened??

Michael Kenrick, instead if post match bashing why don't you setup a post for pre match tactics, formation and game plan. Those who feel they can run things any better can put their name on the line?

Barry Rathbone
483 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:05:42
John Maxwell your correlation of Duffy being selected ahead of an out of form Johnny for a full game to putting him on for 3 minutes to act as bean pole smacks of desperation.
Brent Stephens
484 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:04:54
John, that's a suggestion I've made before - have a thread specifically for people to say pre-match what their team selection would be and their tactics, and to justify that in the light of the opposition's likely team and tactics and their strengths and weaknesses. Then post-match discussion would be very interesting.

Far too easy to come on here post-match and spill out the usual "with hindsight" stuff. Anybody brave enough? I know some do come on and state their preferred team (but it tends not to be the usual post-match whingers) and even then it's not located in a rationale based on the opposition's strengths and weaknesses nor on what actual tactics should be employed. Surely essentials for any real managers.

Paul David
486 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:07:15
Yeah we've all been calling for Duffy to be brought on for a few seconds and be handed the responsibility of handling the other teams threat. I personally didn't slam this sub, its still not what I would have done but at least it was in the dying seconds rather than the last 10 mins (which wouldn't have surprised me). The problem was that the 6ft 4 and vastly experienced Distin should have been marking Smith.
Eugene Ruane
490 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:01:53
- John (480) - Jesus, that is a truly desperate "HA, YOU WERE WRONG!"

'The mindless minority'?

Show us your stats!

It is dead dead DEAD fucking obvious that those 'screaming for Duffy for weeks' were thinking more in terms of STARTING him (in place of say the under-performing Heitinga) rather than bringing him on for the last few seconds of a frantic cup-tie.

Still, it's obvious what you want so let me do you a favour.



Tony J Williams
495 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:15:31
Brent, the difficult thing facing a pre-match discussion, teams and tactics is that you are extremely limited to what you can suggest. Unless you try and cover every eventuality, we go one up, one down, a man up a man down, injury occurs etc

The armchair managers are absolutely fantastic after the game, they can say without a hint of fuckwitishness exactly what Moyes/Everton should have done at x, y & z and believe that they are somehow more tactically astute than the fella getting paid almost £4m to do his job within the confines of real time, not after watching, re-watching the game and making a decision that no-one could ever prove right or wrong.

Tony J Williams
497 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:36:51
However, it is a big fat fuck off red mark for playing that dope at right back. Even an injured Tony Hibbert would have been a better option that Neville on Saturday....even with his hoody on.
John Maxwell
498 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:30:55
Michael and Co.... over to you: let's here what these hindsight football managers can help us with?
Andrew Ellams
500 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:36:08
Going forward Gibson, Osman and Fellaini keep the ball, use it to supply Baines and Mirallas and they provide the service to the striker. In defence, press the man, don't give strikers space to run into and don't let Heitinga within a mile of the game.

That's my tactical contribution, nice and simple.

Paul David
501 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:38:51

It won't work, only if someone picks the same formation and team as Moyes could they be proved right or wrong. I will put my head on the line with this though, Neville will be picked at the weekend and will be shite.

Kevin Tully
504 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:37:28
I agree that post-match should've, could've, would've is a load of old tripe.

It's much easier however, to say we should play two strikers, especially when playing lower League opposition.

My pet hate about Moyes though, is that he insists everyone is back for set pieces or corners. I said to my mate on Saturday that they would equalise, because we had no-one waiting to take the pressure off when we cleared the ball.

We just invite pressure when we are leading a game.

So, pre-match tactical change to leave at least one up (so he is marked by two defenders) when the opposition have a corner or set piece.

Another thing: if you are being paid £4m a year, I expect you to get most things right throughout the course of a match. Or am I expecting too much?

John Maxwell
506 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:47:49
Mr Ruane #490

How about this stat, there was a clown walking down Goodison Road with a cake.... Was it you?

Tony J Williams
508 Posted 18/02/2013 at 11:52:02
Andrew, what do you do if their centre-half rakes his studs down Gibson's calf and he cannot run at full speed?

What about if Pienaar has his usual ineffective game and isn't clicking with Baines?

What is Mirallas's paper hammy goes when he is warming up pre-match?

It's not just as simple as saying, pass to him then to him, cross it and shoot. The other team tried to negate your attacking threat by either man marking/doubling up on better players or kicking lumps out of the player... sneakily so the ref doesn't notice it.

Sometime goalies try and deck other goalies and then try and hand ball it to score. How do you set your team up to combat that?

What happens if you are being overrun in midfield, or as usual the teams target your less than shite right back... you don't have any cover, what do you do?

Etc, etc...

Paul David
512 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:07:50

I also hate that tactic and it makes no sense when you have players as small as Pienaar and Osman on the pitch. There is zero chance of scoring on the break like Oldham did to us. When we concede a corner we are actually conceding 2 set pieces cos when we clear it the opposition player has all the time in the world to control the ball, look up to see what's going on, and play the ball back into our box.

Kevin Tully
514 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:13:14
Forgot to add the comical hoofing witnessed against Cheltenham & now Oldham.

That is a tactic I would throw some fucks into the players about. It's not as if we are chasing a game when we do it, I am talking about turning over possession from the minute Jagielka or Distin receive the ball.

Two touches, look up, and HOOOOOOOFFFFFFFF!!!

Eugene Ruane
518 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:11:44
John Maxwell (506) - you ask me..

"How about this stat, there was a clown walking down Goodison Road with a cake.... Was it you?"

John, a few weeks ago I saw a documentary on BBC1 about a bunch of lion cubs trying to survive during a particularly dry African summer.

Food was scarce and eventually their mother died of hunger, leaving the two cubs to fend for themselves.

It was incredibly sad watching the two little ones eventually become prey for other larger, stronger beasts.

I won't go into detail about the end as it was too distressing but I will admit I shed a few tears

The reason I mention it is that, sad as it was, it still provided more laughs than your piss-weak clown (none) 'gag'.

Phil Bellis
519 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:29:31
"The mindless minority"
How rude!

Maxwell !, see me at break-time

Jim Knightley
525 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:37:10
Bringing on our tallest defender, after Oldham had brought on a 6 foot 6 striker... woah, what was Moyes thinking....


We shouldn't draw to Oldham, but it's the FA Cup, and as Liverpool, Chelski, Spurs, Arsenal, Norwich, QPR, Aston Villa etc etc have proved this season, strange things happen in the FA Cup. So please try and consider the context..we will beat Oldham at home comfortably imo, and then we will be one win against Wigan at home from an FA Cup semi-final. Personally I'm excited.

Joe Clitherow
526 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:14:50
Kevin 504 I don't always agree with you but I am 100% in agreement with you on that one.

I think I have heard David Moyes say that it is based on some kind of Charles Hughes type stats that say that a goal is statistically less likely to be scored the more bodies there are in the box (notwithstanding the fact that that was exactly the opposite reason we conceded on Saturday).

I don't know about that, but I do know that:

a) leaving one man up almost always takes two of the opposing team away from our box rather than the one they leave there, therefore 10 of our team vs 8 of theirs, which is a better defensive ratio than 11 vs 9;

b) when and if the thing does get cleared it ALWAYS comes straight back without an outlet which means you have another attack to deal with rather than just the corner and surely statistically two attacks are worse than one?

Kevin Tully
535 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:48:36
Joe, I think it was Real against Man U who left 4 up when Man U had a corner, that took 5 out of the opposition box, and with all the wrestling nowadays, I think it's easier to defend with less bodies in there. It certainly is for a goalie anyway.

The real issue here is the fact that we always do it, no matter who the opposition are.

Surely the coaching staff must look at these lower League sides and and think they are vulnerable on the counter? So why have all 11 back in the box?

Phil Walling
537 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:49:31
What does it say about such situations in the internationally acclaimed `Guide to Defensive Coaching` by D. Moyes? Afraid I`ve mislaid my copy!
Tony J Williams
539 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:56:21
Kevin, we are not the only team to do it, most of them do.
Tony J Williams
540 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:58:40
Sorry, should have said I agree with you, if frustrates me too. Have Ossie on the half way line, he is no use in the box anyway.
Paul David
542 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:56:34
Moyes said after the Bolton game that cos Bolton have all their players back on corners he thought there might be a chance for someone (Heitinga) to smash one in from the edge of the area. I said at the time and it still stands, why does he think it's a weakness when other teams do it but it's a strength when we do it?
John Gant
543 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:43:35
Eugene (#518) that's up there, lol!
Phil Walling
546 Posted 18/02/2013 at 12:56:21
......and didn`t that other shelf-stacker head Bradford to Wembley against Villa in similar circumstances.Maybe we should be looking for another Bernie Wright at the Coey!
Colin Potter
560 Posted 18/02/2013 at 15:00:07
If Moyes brought on Duffy to nullify Smith with 90 seconds to go, why didn't he bring him on the same time Smith came on?
Kev Johnson
563 Posted 18/02/2013 at 15:22:37
If he was going to bring anyone on with a few minute to go, I'd have said that Hitzlsperger would have been the man. Someone to keep possession, someone to pass round in circles without going anywhere, someone to NOT change the game.

Still, at the end of the day, I think the substitution was irrelevant, as was the foul on the first corner and the debatable foul on the 2nd. If Jelavic had put away a perfectly good chance ten minutes earlier then we wouldn't have been in that situation. That, to me, was the turning point.

Colin Southern
568 Posted 18/02/2013 at 15:04:48
Shock horror Kenrick posting his usual negative editorial on Moyes and the team.
Its a good suggestion to have a tactical analysis thread before games and see what the armchair managers come up with and see if if pans out in Real Time like most managers have to deal with.
Wayne Smyth
622 Posted 18/02/2013 at 17:57:42
Colin, I think a lot of relevant points are made in these threads. Its not exactly like this was the first time that trying to hold onto a 1 goal lead and taking off all attacking outlets has bitten us on the arse.

People are focusing on the last substitution, but for me a bigger issue is the last 30 minutes. To move the team to the next level we need to be keeping our foot down when we go a goal ahead, not sitting back on a 1 goal lead. How many times has that cost us under Moyes management?

We will probably never win anything while that attitude remains the same. Moyes teams will always be paralysed by the fear which emanates from the man himself.

Andrew McLean
650 Posted 18/02/2013 at 20:43:39
Garbutt , Barkley or Oviedo as temporary right backs to deal with the pace of and mark Obita anyone?
Robbie Shields
683 Posted 18/02/2013 at 22:27:56
Moyes would never put Barkley there in a million years and quite rightly so. Apart from the fact that Barkley is a really classy midfielder with a great touch, vision and passing ability there are a couple of other reasons it shouldn't enter Moyes head.

Firstly, the last time Barkley tracked back and attempted a defensive tackle he miss timed it, gave away a penalty and was summarily dropped, still hasn't made a starting 11 appearance since I believe. So the chances of him trying to make a tackle back there are pretty remote. Also, I'm not sure how much pace he has. He is also young and therefore not one of Moyes' favorites.

On the other hand, playing Barkley in Midfield at home against Oldham would make lots of sense. He's shown he can not only play at that level but can score, create chances and dictate a game. But for all the reasons above Moyes won't play him from the start at home against them, not in a Thousand years!!!!!!

John Maxwell
702 Posted 19/02/2013 at 00:39:15
Eugene #518....

A touching story indeed !

In fact it kind of reminds me the day you and Kenwright part, sure you'll be wondering about in the wilderness for a few weeks until you are taken in by the "Venky's Pride".

That will certainly bring a tear to my eye.

Chris Fisher
734 Posted 19/02/2013 at 09:53:43
I still don't get how the goal was allowed! The keeper jumped with both hands in the air which got in the way of Duffy heading it??! Tim Howard was pushed over! I feel maybe the ref wanted the 'magic' of the FA Cup moment!

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