Barkley sparks come-from-behind win for U21s

He does not get that much time in the PL, one would think it would be great for these players to get some match practice. Club policy?

We could build a new ground in Southport and play our first team games there. All it takes is a bit of rejigging and the funfair could be attached to the ground, providing commercial opportunities galore. Also, come to think of it, naming rights: Waltzer Park, Helter Skelter Stadium and The Roller Coaster Ground all sound good to me. Alternatively, it could be built on the beach itself, what with the sea being approximately 27 miles away.

Slightly less feasibly, if Moyes ever picked Barkely for the first team, he could try him on the wing. Didn't he score another goal from an acute angle in the previous game? It's an unusual skill, that - the ability to score from a near impossible angle.

COYB(arkely)!

Next year I'm sure he'll get more gametime, but now ain't the time to play him. We need our best players to get back into form, that'll be the only way we qualify for Europe.

Look at Villa and you see a team playing their best young players.

But we do have some good 'ns coming through...

With Everton, there are more than enough senior players at the club to allow Moyes to take more of a chance on the younger players. Duffy could get plenty of support at the back. Barkley could get plenty of guidance in midfield. Vellios the same up front.

If we look to the other side, we now have Coleman and Mirallas, so again it's now going to be difficult to get a game there.

I don't see him as a central midfielder so it's tough titty at the moment. Maybe if Baines goes he will then get his playing time.

Where would he play anyway?

Would he play instead of Baines or Pienaar or are you asking Moyes to fill round holes with square pegs?

Beat me to it.

A while back it was Coleman who took his chance and now with the guidance of Moyes is starting to look as decent defending as he does going forward. Miralles in front of you helps of course as does swaping both Kevin & Pienaar around on the flanks from time to time. Seems to me that the man in charge who actually also takes the trouble of watching these matches knows what he is doing and if he thinks they are ready or not, who are we to argue?

I would love to see Barkley coming in and taking the Premier League by storm, but time will tell — you only have to look at Jose Baxter to see that all the potential in the world does not mean you can cut it at the highest level. Baxter played well against us but not enough to cry over letting him go.

Who are we to argue? We are ToffeeWebbers, that who we are! It's what we do - argue. Preventing us from putting forward our points of view would be like saying to an airborn flock of geese, "Listen, that 'V-formation' has been done to death, I want you to split up and do your own thing!" It's just not going to happen...

As for Barkley, how many times does he give the ball away in dangerous postions?

Francisco Junior,
Ross Barkley,
Shane Duffy,
Conor McAleny.

These four should be breaking into the first team next season. I can't help wondering if we had another manager willing to give these a chance whether we could see something similar in affect to what Ferguson did.
Kennedy, Garbutt, Stones, Hope and George Green are also players with massive potential. I don't care what anyone says, we have got some real talent in the academy and with the right man in charge we will start to see it.

Barkley is an obvious talent who hasn't had enough game time. look at his two loan spells in the championship this season. he got a run of games and did very well, scoring a decent amount of goals from midfield.

Moyes needs to start introducing these players or risks them not fulfilling their obvious potential.

Oviedo could play left back with Baines left mid, Pienaar right mid with Mirallas playing a free role just behind Jelavic, drifting across the forward line with Gibson and Fellaini in the middle... it would not hurt? Oh, I can dream.

Last season he had one dodgy game and was relegated to the reserves for the rest of the season. This season its been similar treatment.

If I were manager, I'd probably initially ask him to play in areas where if we lost the ball it wasn't critical. I'd work with him to try to improve his game and ensure that he gave the ball away less. I'd give him 10, 20 or 30 minutes in games vs lower league opposition, perhaps when we're winning 3-0. You ever wonder if he's trying too hard to impress because he think's he's unlikely to get another chance for 6 months?

Or we could say that because our young players are not perfect, we're not going to give them any first team opportunities. Then we can bitch that our first 11 are too tired when we lose to teams like Norwich, and whine incessantly for more cash rather than making some use of our academy.

To be honest what pisses me off most is the double standards. Players like neville who regularly give up possession is idolised and Hetinga who regularly gives goals away seem to get lots of game time despite their inadequacies. Players like Duffy and Barkley and Vellios etc get virtually nothing. The moment they make 1 mistake you don't see them again..or in the case of Duffy, play a blinding couple of games for the first team without making mistakes and we still see nothing of him.

It's no big secret that Oviedo is a force to be reckoned with! The guy has hardly had a chance to settle in and he's impressed many already despite Moyes going always with the same players regardless of their form!

Apart from the 90 minutes he had against the Norwich (which he scored 3rd highest ratings in the team that day) he's barely had 90 minutes in all of the 8 other games he's played. Unlike others he actually wants the ball and drive it forward. And I don't need to remind you of his goal assist!

He has to be the most underrated player in the squad by a country mile! How can you not see this?

If I'd have watched the second half I might have formed a different opinion, but nobody had me knocking on Moyes' door demanding he play them in the first eleven.

How this relates to Oviedo is simple,

Play Oviedo ahead of Baines. 4-2-3-1.

Coleman and Mirallas on the right, Fellainia and Gibson in front of the back four. Pienaar in the middle of the 3.

Things like that needs to change. Now, Heitinga and his last performance against Wigan was rotten, but I do not see Duffy having more pace then Heitinga to deal with Kone. Though it has been a long time since I last saw Duffy.

Moyes is his own worst enemy, the way he refuses to use two or three of our best youngsters is coming back to bite him. It is only when he has no other choice that he selects Duffy, Vellios or Barkley.

I cannot understand why Moyes has not got the balls to try out his best young guns. He must think they are too weak mentally.

If Martinez is Everton manager any time soon, I can definitely see him playing Oviedo at left midfield and experimenting with Barkely behind the striker - or even up front in a 4-3-3. Would it work? I don't know, but I'd like to see it.

If, as seems likely, Fellaini goes at the end of the season, it would free us up to try different things. In a sense, Fellaini's goalscoring in attacking midfield has stymied the team's overall progression, much as Cahill's did a few seasons back. The thing is, Fellaini is scoring then you can't argue with it, but if he's not then organising the whole team around him (and adversely affecting Jelavic) is harmful. Tricky.

If we start using these younger players as genuine squad players, we can get rid of heitinga, pick up a transfer fee and wipe £55k / week off the clubs wage bill. Same for barkley and stones who could be used as genuine replacements for PN and you've another £50k / week saved.

Fairly soon you've created enough cash to purchase some additional players with quality and future potential.

If we don't give these reserve players some actual game time, when heitinga leaves and neville retires those youngsters will probably have left the club or be several years behind in their development and the club will suffer.

I must admit, I'm getting worried about his non-development. If he's not going to get thrown in at the deep end then he should be sent out on a season long loan, somewhere he can settle down.