Neville 'embarrassed' by his performance

I admire your honesty, Phil.

Personally I couldn't give a fuck about his honesty, he always talks from a script supplied by Moyes and Kenwright, even when the shit has hit the fan.

But what got my blood pressure up was his comment on how the whole squad wants Moyes to stay and that Moyes has brought stability to the club.

The whole squad? Really? Of course all Moyes's favourites want this as they get a game but I'm sure others don't agree...

And as for stability, ffs, Neville, Moyes has been here for 11 years so that would be the very least that we would expect. How about ambition? Just fuck off, Neville, and take that headmaster with you.

Another thing. I don't want to see the sections of the ground applauding because one of our players is going over to take a corner in front of them. Even worse is when that player applauds back. Let's applaud goals and attempts and good play and give credit where it's due.

Surely if you want the players to play for the shirt then we should be trying to encourage a bond between the players and the fans.

The Goodison crowd should be more concerned about being out-sung by every visiting team this season. It's a morgue until we score.

Phil Neville 'Now that's what I call Inspiration....13' out now in your local record shops, including the hit 'Top 10 and we know we are'

It's the complete lack of awareness that gets me, no wonder he gets in a strop when the lower Bullens tell him to pass to a blue shirt - "who do you think you are?" his visage demands.

If only you knew young Phil.

Get to fuck, you shitty washed-up excuse for a lousy wanker of a player, you've pissed on your own chips.

I honestly fear the worst for this weekend.

Kenwright should be out the door BEFORE any player or the manager, him and his cronies have been like a cancer eating away at the club drom the inside out for over a decade, he's a charlatan who should be kicked up and down Goodison Road for what he's done to the club since taking charge.

Nail. Head. Hit.

Phil Neville, being the captain and always trying his best (don't laugh) is the same as the rest. He wants to get out there and do his bit. You cant take that away from him.
Now, David Moyes job is to put the team together, to see who is good enough and put a team together that will do a job.
If every bleeding Evertonian can see that Nev is past his best, a plodding carthorse, no pace, and really not a PL player anymore, then why cant our overpaid manager see it.

I say, do not blame Phil Neville, as he will always do his best. Blame David Moyes, he picked him, found him worthy of a place in the team on saturday, gave him a job to do and now stands and says we were not good enough on the day. No sir, YOU were not good enough on the day. YOUR FAULT, NO ONE ELSES!

Where is the Top 10 Phil Neville quote? Just curious like

And you know what, he actually does care about this club more than 90% of the other players that have pulled on that blue jersey over the last 15 years.

He's faults are twofold:

1) He is unquestionable loyal to Moyes

2) He's shit at football.

So yes, he may come out and tow the party line...but what else can he do? He's at least been man enough to admit he's had an awful game.

I know he is a massive problem, but can we forget Kenwright for now? We have more immediate problems at the club. An arrogant Jock with the stubbornness of a particularly stubborn mule. Thank you DM, now please may we have our club back.

I say worldwide because as a lifetime Evertonian now living in Canada, we can see every EPL game live all over the globe and, true to form, the City game live at 7:45am on Saturday which could also be a huge embarrassment...

Top down, root and branch reshuffle required - no chance of getting one though.....

When did he say it in Sky news?

Is he man enougho admit he's had an awful game?

He's awful most weeks and this is the first time i've heard him say it and he opens his mouth every week.

No fucking way will he be in the side on Saturday. If he is then I'm leaving before K/O.

Plus Coleman has been good at RB. He's certainly better there than RW - despite being poor against Wigan. In fact I think he's been one real positive this season.

Then we have the media, who probably can't get there head around the fact that some Evertonians don't think MOyes should be in charge anymore. You probably won't hear any pundit suggest Everton can do better than Moyes.

So all we have got left with now is David MOyes, deciding whether he can be arsed with a few more years at Everton. It's he who is calling all the shots, he has got the entire club by the balls.

Max Murphy, hang Moyes. What the fuck?

Peter Leslie, don't you have homework to do rather than typing that last paragraph?

And finally Kunsai, you're pretty consistent with the bile you throw out. Grow up.

Neville is past it and was particularly bad on Saturday but he was picked and has to go out and play the game. Did he play shit on purpose? I doubt it.

Never want to see him in a Blue shirt again. Piss off Neville and take your rallying crys with you.

Yes, I agree, I don't like the platitudes and the soundbites that emanate from his mouth but give the guy some credit for apologising.

I will give Neville credit, not for apologising, but if and when he calls it a day at this level because he knows he cannot contribute to the team on the pitch.

Was the above statement put out by EFC PR team?

His apologizing and raising his hand will not make his performances any better in the future. Commitment and desire aren't his problems. Talent is.

Unfortunately the league table doesn't work like that. Production counts, not much else.

Breaking point is fast approaching. We're going to need some wise decisions to be made pronto on a lot of levels ...

They really do take us for mugs at times.

Beyond the Ronaldo tackle, he's done very little of any note with his feet; only with his gob.

No mention about the bloke that gave up with his back against the run of play, flapping his arms around then... Or has everyone forgotten? Fellaini isn't fit to wear the shirt!

Does he play fellaini, Gibson, Osman, jelavic after that? You'd expect a reaction with jags and Howard, but without Moyes or round have a big challenge on Saturday against city. An away game like OT last season might have helped, but Goodison will not be forgiving again this weekend.

He's just an extension of the moyes bill love in

I don't think it will be interesting at all. I predict 1, 2 changes at the very most. Moyes doesn't recognise form so it will be the same players as usual.

An early goal for city, and it could get ugly.

I totally agree with you but I also know how stubborn/arrogant Moyes is.

Three points

1) Moyes is paid 4million a year to make tough decisions like that for the good of Everton Football Club, not to protect an astonishingly below average player who is now 36
2) Moyes didn't show a young and talented kid by the name of Ross Barkley when he tracked back, made a miss timed tackle in the box and conceded a penalty did he
3) if Moyes had taken decisive action we might still be in the Cup

Scarey, scarey though!

But will he be embarrassed enough NOT to sign a new contract in the summer....great pro.....good capt....nice bloke he maybe.... but premiership level midfield player he certainly is NOT and IMO NEVER has been !!

But will he be embarrassed enough NOT to sign a new contract in the summer....great pro.....good capt....nice bloke he maybe.... but premiership level midfield player he certainly is NOT and IMO NEVER has been !!

But will he be embarrassed enough NOT to sign a new contract in the summer....great pro.....good capt....nice bloke he maybe.... but premiership level midfield player he certainly is NOT and IMO NEVER has been !!

I know who I will be booing at the next match, a player apparently with the ability to actually do something about Saturday's result, one who has spent the whole season pushing for a move to a different club, one who hasn't turned up for 2 months, one who was too cowardly to face the fans after this match. One who takes more money in wages than any of our players yet gives half the effort. I will boo him like I do every match. Neville is just a symptom of the problems within the playing squad at this club but in no way is he the root, if he's not here next season and nothing is added to the squad then these same problems will appear regardless of whether he's there or not. Very short sighted just to always look to blame one or two (Osman is usually best bet for this position) for the failings of the entire 11. When does the searchlight go towards the big players and the uncomfortable questions start getting asked of their performance?

The thing is a lot of supporters have never believed Neville has been a good player or come close to meeting expectations. I resent him being our captain, playing every game, being one of our biggest earners ect. During his time at Everton he should have nothing other than a squad player for right back only at best. Some people praise Neville for his professionalism but the way I see it, I have no respect for a player who is a shinning example of how far you can get in the game but have no talent.

We are all entitled to an opinion. Neville, in my opinion, has been an excellent player for us. But not for the past year or so. His affect on the team has far outweighed his actual talent, and, yes, he brings a level of experience and professionalism to a side that has been lacking a true leader for long enough. People with more footballing nous than we have are unanimous in their appreciation of Neville as a man and a footballer. He isn't , or shouldn't be, a target for personal abuse.
As for your lack of respect for a player who has got "as far as you can get in the game but have no talent" you don't win 6 Premier League titles, 3 FA Cups and 1 Champions League medal if you are, at best, average.
Don't get me wrong here, my heart sank when I saw the midfield partnership of Osman and Neville last Saturday and I predicted a tough game as a result of that, but, surely, as a club and a set of fans we are above the sort of comments that appear on here with relation to Neville, Osman etc.?

The people with more footballing nous than us have a personal relationship with Neville, the fans don't and only have his performances to judge him on.

Also there have been a few average players on Utd's books that have won everything in the game. Butt is one from the time of Neville that springs to mind, he played a lot for Utd and England but when at another club was average.

One thing I think we can all agree on is Neville should be no where near the first team now.

We support a TEAM. Not a bunch of individuals. Neville, Butt etc., were part of a team and as such were worthy of whatever success came their way. Following a thread elsewhere on this site I recently considered my best team from all the players I had actually seen play for us since I started going the match in 59-60. The team of "best players" in each position would not get the better of the best team".
At least we agree on one thing. Phil Neville is now past his best and shouldn't get in the first team now.

We do know why Neville played ahead of Gibson, Moyes said it was a tactical decision. Which I think shows Neville is still held in high regard by Moyes and I really don't believe Neville has played nearly every game due to injuries, he would have played anyway.

If he can honestly say yes then the man is about as honest as our dear leader.

No, Gavin, that's not what I'm saying. Referring to Nevilles' very successful career I was merely pointing out the obvious. You don't win all those trophies if you're crap. If you read what I also wrote you will see that I say, and I quote, "Phil Neville is now past his best and shouldn't get in the first team now." Just like Kendall.
Consider this. Neville may be continuing to play because He loves the game. (I can empathise with him. I had my last 11 a side game when I was 50!)
And maybe Moyes has said he needs him. I doubt if money comes into it. As you say, how much does he need. I imagine his nest is sufficiently well feathered to make the amount he earns neither here nor there.( Please, I don't want someone getting up on his hind legs and crowing "Well why doesn't he play for nothing". If he'd play for nothing Kenwright would have him playing until HE'S 50.)

At 36, he gets selected in a position he couldn't play even at his peak. Then, when he's shit, the club sticks him in front of the media and he stands up and takes it on the chin.

There must be one hell of a job planned for him. Would you take that shit unless you were set for a big role at the club?

It wasn't good enough full stop.

I don't get the impression that either Pip or the manager think he should be preparing to hang up his boots any time soon.

Gavin - the Goodison crowd have forgotten that audience participation is part of the overall enjoyment. Trying to get a chant going spontaneously is nigh on impossible.

I think what Gavin is getting at is if the team are producing boring slow football then its hard for the fans to get excited. I'm sure the noise in the ground would increase if the fans had something to shout about.

Is it the crowds job to raise the team or the teams job to raise the fans?

In the main I think its the players resonsibility to get the crowd going.

Although I fully understand why we have them, I think the all-seater stadium and the instructions not to stand dampen down the crowd. I remember when whole sections would make noise all the way through a game irrespective of what was actually happening on the pitch.

It may be hard to do, but (IMO) it would help if the crowd took it on themselves to vocalize their support en masse rather than waiting for the players to give them something to shout about.

If they're tired, sit out a day in practice. WTF is the problem with that?? These are young men in their prime physical shape. Fatigue should NOT be an excuse at ALL.

We're all tired of the excuses and apathy. Great, the worst starter on our team puts his hand up and says his performance was embarrassing. What's he going to do about it?? He's incapable of playing well at this level (except maybe at RB) so I don't know how he's going to make amends? Maybe he can take the ball of Seamus' foot again and try to shoot from a near impossible angle?? What a complete joke.

Fuck his yoga, fuck whatever supplements he's on, get out of the team already. rant over....just checking.... shit, he's still our captain

When you go at the end of the season, take Osman Moyes and Kenwright with you.