Richarlison 'happy' at Everton amid tenuous Liverpool link

Friday, 5 April, 2019 90comments  |  Jump to last
Everton have reportedly poured cold water on suggestions that Richarlison could be a summer target of Liverpool and the Brazilian took to social media to assure Blues fans of his allegiances.

According to UOL Esporte in Brazil, one of Richarlison's representatives, Renato Velasco, recently met Reds boss Jurgen Klopp at his Formby home.

The fact that Velasco has no other European-based clients set tongues wagging that Klopp could be looking to tempt the forward across Stanley Park but, according to the Liverpool Echo, Everton have "laughed the suggestion off".

Seemingly in response, Richarlison, meanwhile, posted two images of himself in Everton colours with the message, "I'm happy".

Richarlison has been with the Blues less than a year since his £40m move from Watford and he has notched 12 goals in what has been an up-and-down but largely successful first season at Goodison Park.  


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Joe Corgan
1 Posted 05/04/2019 at 07:31:12
Hmm. Everton shrug it off and he affirms his loyalty on social media.

He’s definitely off across the park in the summer then! 😂

Ralph Basnett
2 Posted 05/04/2019 at 07:49:27
Who would he replace?

Not good enough for them which is fortunate for us!!!!!

Brian Murray
3 Posted 05/04/2019 at 08:04:36
The way he does the dying swan act after a bit of contact means he would dovetail quite nicely over there. I trust in Brands – with or without the likes of Richarlison!
Graham Coldron
4 Posted 05/04/2019 at 08:05:56
Two good wins on the bounce and the media come up with this shite.Proof as if it was never needed that the media are a bunch of self serving utter shithouses
Anthony A Hughes
5 Posted 05/04/2019 at 08:16:21
Lets respond with a cheeky offer for Salah.
Derek Knox
6 Posted 05/04/2019 at 08:22:08
Interesting too that SSN released a Table of Premier League Club's Transfers for seasons 2017/2018/2019 and the most money paid out to 'agents' in the form of fees, and guess who topped the list? The RS.

Maybe it's just coincidental that this story has emerged on the back of that, but it does make you wonder.

I really like the lad, but his recent performances have raised question marks over his contribution to the field of play overall.

Andrew Laird
7 Posted 05/04/2019 at 08:24:18
London based media try to unsettle Everton player before match with Arsenal, who are trying to get top 4 and need as much help as they can get. To be filed under “comical”. I would honestly rather have him than Salah at the moment who looks every inch a busted flush, Mane on the other hand...
Martin Berry
8 Posted 05/04/2019 at 08:32:42
Aprils fools day has gone !
Robert Leigh
9 Posted 05/04/2019 at 09:26:32
Keane going to Arsenal/Spurs this week for £50mil...

Gomes will sign for Inter/Real Betis rather than us...

Now Richarlison going across the park...

Two wins and this is what happens, what next; DCL to replace Ronaldo at Juventus?!

Phil Sammon
10 Posted 05/04/2019 at 09:34:46
Derek 6

‘I really like the lad, but his recent performances have raised question marks over his contribution to the field of play overall.’

Have you watched the last couple of games, Derek?

I’ve been very critical of Richarlison but it seems odd to pick on his recent form, which has been very good. In fact, on the weekend he actually looked relaxed and happy for the first time. I think he’ll be a better player if he can cut the sulking and enjoy the game.

Bob Parrington
11 Posted 05/04/2019 at 09:45:29
Anthony #5 Yes. We get Salah and 15 million quid and they get Richie 😀 🤓
Derek Knox
12 Posted 05/04/2019 at 09:47:30
Phil @10, maybe you have taken me too literally, admittedly the last two games have seen a difference in attitude from him, with more involvement, and no sulking/going to ground, but prior to that he has not been quite the same player.
Brian Harrison
13 Posted 05/04/2019 at 09:59:26
Only Barcelona will tempt Richarlison from his mentor and father figure Marco Silva. I am sure if he was even looking at an English club he would choose 1 that had a pedigree of winning the Premier League.
Alex Carew
14 Posted 05/04/2019 at 10:20:24
I am guessing Merson is all for him now as a valuable addition.
Liam Reilly
15 Posted 05/04/2019 at 10:25:09
Can't understand why anyone on here would want rid of this kid. He's got all the tools; destined to become one of the best in the world in my opinion and we should enjoy him whilst we have him.
John Malone
16 Posted 05/04/2019 at 10:32:41
Derek 12, he is 21 years old mate playing at a new club in a team in transition. He’s played anywhere across the front three for us, he doesn’t speak the language and is still one if the top scorer’s in the league!!

Give the lad time to mature and learn will you mate every young player has weaknesses and thing’s they need to improve on but he has carried this team at times this season.

I have no doubt he will develop into one if the best player’s in our league and europe!

Stan Schofield
17 Posted 05/04/2019 at 11:04:16
He is undoubtedly a very good, potentially top, player. As always, if he continues being good, unless we improve our performances consistently and achieve status in the Champions League, he'll be off to a top club for a big fee.

However, it would be a top club with a recent track record of actually winning trophies, and not a 2nd tier club such as Liverpool (or Spurs).

Alan J Thompson
18 Posted 05/04/2019 at 11:12:04
Is there any reason Everton shouldn't ask the FA or whoever is the responsible body to ask Velasco and Klopp if they were discussing an illegal tap up for Richarlison given this agent appears to have only one client in Europe or are we being a little bit delicate in believing that there are no other South Americans of interest to a host of clubs?
Tony Everan
19 Posted 05/04/2019 at 11:16:22
Bit late for an April Fool's joke
Mike Gwyer
20 Posted 05/04/2019 at 11:36:01

Surprised the RS loving BBC didn't have this as their main bit of footy gossip, oops, then again one of their main stories is about how "winning the title will be like nothing you've ever seen before" as stated by four totally unbiased RS footy fans. The whole fucking world wants anyone but that lot to win the title and when you read that article, after puking your ring, you realise why..

Bob Parrington
21 Posted 05/04/2019 at 11:45:59
Typical media hype! we'll likely hear about the following players being picked off by the you-know-who of the EPL and some Euro clubs

Richie
Bernard
Siggy
Gomes
Keane
Pickford
DCL

at the very least!

Just get used to it! it's a load of Crxp. We'll also be linked with every blow Joe (had to be careful with my spelling there) around the world as well. But in Brands and Silva we have strength!

I expect an exodus of the driftwood and some excellent signings this summer.


Jim Bennings
22 Posted 05/04/2019 at 12:20:36
Liverpool can dream on, they should be focused on staving the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona from Salah, Mane etc etc
Winston Williamson
23 Posted 05/04/2019 at 12:27:13
The best thing to do is not click or read anything Red-Poop related. The gushing, fawning and general media-masturbation of that slime is heart-attack inducing!

A simpler life is achievable by such avoidance - they're just a stain on a tea towel; a blot of ink; a tedious mind-numbing bore; and their followers do not even know their own history and the small number that do, try to hide their hideous crimes against football.

Do not try to engage with a Red-Poop fan - it is like trying to teach the theory of quantum mechanics to a banana.

Do not try to apply reasoning to a Red-Poop fan - it is like trying to find the leprechauns gold at the end of a multi-coloured rainbow.

Take great solace in the fact that, although we are currently not as established playing-wise as the Red-Poop, we are, as supporters and fans, a century ahead in football-educational-development.

Andy Meighan
24 Posted 05/04/2019 at 12:30:29
Mike @20,

I just read that piece, mate... Puke-inducing.

And what the fuck is all that about? Them winning it would be like nothing you've seen before. It would actually be only a couple of short seasons ago that Leicester defied the odds to claim it. Something that we'll probably never see the likes of again.

The media's love-in with them is sickening with the bias, BBC to Sky... Every other pundit an ex-player or fan... and, to cap it all, the odious Sue Smith (yawn) with her phoney Phil Thompson impressions... and, by the way, who the fuck is she???

Ex player England and whoever... No, sorry, but that's not football, I'm afraid I just hope to god Man City claim the lot — that might shut them up for a while.

Dave Abrahams
25 Posted 05/04/2019 at 12:48:07
Derek (6), regarding agents and the fees they receive, there is a meeting today with the premier league clubs who are voting on a motion where the agent will only be paid by one club,currently they are paid by the buying and selling club.
Scott Hall
26 Posted 05/04/2019 at 12:57:45
Bloody hell! Two wins and off the media go!

I'll save you some time over the coming weeks/month...

Sigurdsson set for £60m Arsenal move
Barcelona eye shock Bernard move
DCL set to replace Martial under United resurgence
Barkley tells Davies 'join me at Chelsea'
'Homesick' Digne eyes PSG switch
Sarri - "Zouma too good for sorry Everton"

And of course not forgetting how the media portray us at the other end of the scale...

Everton set to swoop for Preston North End youngster
Toffees to offer £90m for Mark Noble
Blues plan to replace Gueye with Wrexham starlet
Rooney back to Everton: A real possibility
Niasse - "Cardiff bigger club than Everton"

The British media. Shite since the dawn of time.

Lenny Kingman
27 Posted 05/04/2019 at 13:12:05
Jim #22

You may be on to something there. Maybe when they lose those players mentioned they may want a quick fix like the diving Brazilian. He will remind older RS supporters of the supreme diving mophead Kevin Keegan.

Justin Doone
28 Posted 05/04/2019 at 13:20:45
I don't think he's the only player in the books so more likely enquiring about other players which is exactly what we should be doing.

There are still many gems in the South American Market that I hope we are keeping tabs on. A few more like Ric and we would have some serious skill, pace and work rate.

I bet you could easily find a Gana replacement or a Ricy mk2 for under £10m

Jack Convery
29 Posted 05/04/2019 at 13:26:09
The player should pay the agent not the club. Leeches the lot of them, the worst thing that has happened in football. All that money taken out of the game is a disgrace.

Charlies staying end of.

Rob Halligan
30 Posted 05/04/2019 at 13:33:53
Lenny, I'd say Kenny "dogshit" Dalglish was a better diver than Keegan.
Derek Knox
31 Posted 05/04/2019 at 13:34:54
Dave @25, yes I read that, but I would like them to ban them altogether, but can't ever see that ever happening in this money orientated age of football that we live in.

Justin @28, I have always advocated that 'superstars' have all 'started somewhere' until they were discovered, the secret is spotting them before others do. I believe in Brands we have a good, or better chance, than in the past of doing this, with his S American contacts and superior scouting system.

Regarding Gana, recent reports are stating that PSG have got Anders Herrera from Manure and may not be pursuing their long interest in our guy. Which, in my book is good news, he is at the moment virtually un-replaceable, but there may be an unearthed Gana Mk2 somewhere in the World!

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

32 Posted 05/04/2019 at 13:35:29
I don't know who is recycling this is the English media, but I've read the original piece in Portuguese - and it's actually a well-written and presented piece (albeit by a correspondent based in Paris, which tells you a bit about the reliability of his 'sources).

It's a general piece on Richarlison, recounting his history and progress since joining Watford. The angle referenced in the opening post is a 'throw-away' line in the closing paragraph of a 10-paragraph piece, asking a rhetorical question: 'A move to Anfield on the horizon?' I'll come back to that in a moment.

For anyone interested, he is the full translation:

"At least once a month, most Premier League clubs usually organize a dinner to gather their cast and tighten the ties between their players.

"While still playing for Watford, Richarlison almost didn't attend one of those encounters. The reason? He was angry with himself and the rest of his teammates after being beaten 6-0 by Manchester City at home. For him, there was no climate to fraternize at that moment.

"The story told behind the scenes reveals a bit of the personality of the 21-year-old striker, one of the most prized names in the Premier League today. In addition to giving everything on the pitch, he shone playing up front in his first season on the English pitches and, at the end of it, made the leap to Everton in a 40 million pound deal that generated big buzz in the market.

"The initial reaction was that Tite's [the Brazilian coach] new bet for the national team was not worth all that money. This was the consensus that dominated the news.

"After just over six months, it is safe to say that Richarlison overturned all the prognoses that suggested he would succumb to the pressure of the numbers.

"With 13 goals, he became one of Everton's star players and won over Goodison Park with his charisma and good football. To complete things, he also shone in the Brazilian shirt, hitting the net three more times, affirming himself as a post-World Cup scorer next to Neymar and practically guaranteeing a place in the Copa América [Latin America's equivalent to the Euros which takes place in Brazil this summer].

"If there was still any doubt about his potential, it was put to rest. One picture of this is the attention that the number 30 received in the January transfer window.

"According to UOL Esporte from people close to the striker, offers of just over 50 million pounds were made to secure his football. None of them were taken seriously. Richarlison is considered "irreplaceable." For Everton, they don't begin to talk for less than 70 million pounds.

"The club is in a comfortable position to play hard in the market. First, its main shareholder, businessman Farhad Moshiri, has a fortune estimated at more than 7 billion reais. Then the striker has a father and son relationship with the Portuguese coach Marco Silva.

"Finally, he has more than adapted to the Premier League. There is no interest by his representatives in forcing any situation, either. [my bolding].

"Richarlison has found a partner at Everton. In addition to Richarlison, they also own the midfielder Bernard and are expected to further increase this customer list in the summer. With his name linked to Barcelona, PSG and Milan, Richarlison prefers to stay in England.

"His main agent, Renato Velasco, who takes more care of his career, was recently with rival Liverpool commander Jürgen Klopp at his home.

"A move to Anfield on the horizon? When mentioning the name of the footballer, first nurtured by America-MG before catching the attention of Fluminense, in one of his press conferences at the end of last year, Klopp said [about Richarlison] "what player he is." Richarlison's contract with Everton ends in 2023."

*****

Taking it as a whole, it's a fair, balanced and accurate piece. Within it, it is categorically stated both the player and his agent are happy at Everton with no intention of agitating for a move.

The final paragraph, as I wrote early, opens with a rhetorical question making a tenuous link to the 'alleged' visit by his agent to Klopp's house.

Really nothing to see or take seriously here. Everyone knows how the media works and how they like to make a banquet out of a morsel.

Jerome Shields
33 Posted 05/04/2019 at 14:07:42
Rubbish speculation.
Jamie Crowley
34 Posted 05/04/2019 at 14:19:44
We still have 6 games left this season. It's not summer yet. Where did they stir up this unadulterated bullshit?
Lee Courtliff
35 Posted 05/04/2019 at 14:21:17
I was shocked when Nick Barmby demanded a transfer to that lot but in this era, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Richy went over there!

My days of believing players have the same sense of loyalty as we do are long gone. And in all fairness, why should he?

He's not local, not even English and is probably ambitious and wants to further his career. We're constantly in 'transition' whereas Liverpool are on the brink of winning the league as well as odds on favourites to progress into the semi-finals of the Champions League too!

Painful to admit but they're a far more attractive proposition for any player than we are.

Feel sick now but I'm afraid it's true.

Lee Brownlie
36 Posted 05/04/2019 at 14:57:45
Fucking red shites!!!

Of course he'll be off as soon as we look too shit to stay with again.

Personally, though, I'd rather shoot agents than let them go round touting their 'clients' when – by very definition of what an agent is or does – it's ONLY about how much the agents themselves can get out of any deal!!!

Jamie Crowley
37 Posted 05/04/2019 at 15:37:24
Lee -

This is tabloid poo.

He’s not going to the dark side. I’d bet the house, wife, and kids on it.

Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
38 Posted 05/04/2019 at 15:42:04
Anyone seen the Spurs trying to steal Gomes for £30m headline in the Telegraph?

Any truth in it just proves that Pochettino is no better at spotting talent that Harry Redknapp. Harry always waited to see who Moyes was going to buy before stepping in.

But we have to remember, Redknapp would never be able to find a bargain in a B&M store.

Raymond Fox
39 Posted 05/04/2019 at 16:05:35
May be true, maybe not!
One thing you can be sure of, is the top six clubs will be eyeing a few of our players and its a sad fact that modern day footballers have little if any club loyalty and will be off in a heartbeat as Lee has already said.
Its one of the reasons we find it so difficult to make it through the top six glass ceiling, as soon as we find a top player their off.
James Hughes
40 Posted 05/04/2019 at 16:13:59
Jamie, that's a safe bet sir, you have far too many kids, is it six or have I made that up ? You'll need the missus to look after the brood, so that's off as well . Maybe the house. :)

I can't see Richi crossing the park this summer, so I reckon the house is safe as well.

Pat Kelly
41 Posted 05/04/2019 at 16:40:50
His tweet just said "I'm happy" . It didn't say "at Everton". Maybe he's happy with the reported interest. It's only bull.
Darryl Ritchie
42 Posted 05/04/2019 at 16:49:51
This is a case where the media take 1+1 and come up with a final sum of 20.

He's apparently talking to him...so that means...this is going to happen..maybe..print it!

Rob Halligan
43 Posted 05/04/2019 at 16:57:28
Way off topic here, but our final home game against Burnley has been brought forward to Friday 3rd May with an 8.00pm kick off. What is the bloody point in that?
James Hughes
44 Posted 05/04/2019 at 17:03:29
Rob, is that going to be on TV then
Rob Halligan
45 Posted 05/04/2019 at 17:07:44
It is James. Sky sports. So unless Burnley are still in the deep brown stuff, I don't see the point of picking that game for TV.
Stan Schofield
46 Posted 05/04/2019 at 17:17:47
Lee@35 and Raymond@39: He might well be off to a top club, like Barca, Chelsea, Real, City or Utd, but not to one of the 2nd tier clubs like Liverpool, Arsenal, etc. if he wants to win trophies.
Drew O'Neall
47 Posted 05/04/2019 at 17:31:04
I would expect it to be a covenant in any Everton player’s contract that there be a forfeiture of signing on fee/loyalty fee with any transfer across the park.
Martin Mason
48 Posted 05/04/2019 at 17:58:14
The Telegraph is reporting that Spurs are planning a bid for Gomes.
Jamie Crowley
49 Posted 05/04/2019 at 18:14:34
James @ 40 - five sons. And the house is on! ;0)


Gomes going to Spurs - I don't think that will happen either. I don't see why Gomes, after being so unhappy and mentally not in the right place, would rock the boat at all.

He's happy at Goodison. I don't think the player, based on his past, will mess with a good thing.

Zouma will be the big, and only real, loss if I'm reading my crystal ball correctly.

Brian Williams
50 Posted 05/04/2019 at 18:20:05
I believe Newton FC, here on the Wirral, of the West Cheshire league, are planning to bid for Zouma.

Really? Well it's as valid a rumour as the Richarlison and Gomes ones...

Richarlison's agent reveals real reason he met Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp

Jamie Crowley
51 Posted 05/04/2019 at 18:20:58
Pat @ 41 -

His tweet was with photos of him in the jersey, kissing / mouthing / whatever the hell you call that, the badge.

I think it's a pretty safe assumption he meant "at Everton" including those photos!

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

52 Posted 05/04/2019 at 18:37:22
Brain @ 50.

Reading your link I see the Echo write early in the piece:

"UOL Esporte in Brazil claimed on Thursday that Renato Velasco had travelled to Klopp's house to discuss the possibility of his client becoming the first player since Abel Xavier in 2002 to cross the divide."

The original report does nothing of the sort.

Tabloids and footy rumours. Doncha just love 'em?

Dave Abrahams
53 Posted 05/04/2019 at 18:44:20
Jay (52), you’ve got to give the lads at The Echo some leeway, they don’t get great wages there, and have to make their stories up as they go along.
Paul Burns
54 Posted 05/04/2019 at 20:02:32
Don't you just love agents and the Echo, t*ssers all.
And Ralph Basnett, "he's not good enough for them", what are you on about feller, they're scum, everyone's too good for them, what sort of comment is that on an Everton website?
Mike Gaynes
55 Posted 05/04/2019 at 20:46:40
Silva laughed it off: https://www.goal.com/en-us/news/i-have-to-smile-silva-laughs-at-reports-linking-richarlison/1fssojp7v70ff1nqshbf5igce2
Brian Williams
56 Posted 05/04/2019 at 21:15:11
Jay, it makes me wish I'd been a journo!
Paul Birmingham
57 Posted 05/04/2019 at 22:33:21
The rag arse media, are stirring up the crap. He’s under contract, and it’s not like he’s without any Portuguese speaking people at EFC.

Forget the RedEcho and the rest, and on another note, again the crap officials let a blatant offside goal stand for the RS equaliser.

Hopefully the luck will run out the next week and to the end of the season.

Focus on beating Arsenal.

Mike Jones
58 Posted 05/04/2019 at 22:35:38
I want to be with you, Paul, but I think the cunts are going to win it.

I despise them all. Owners, players and fans. Am I bitter? Yes.

Mike Galley
59 Posted 05/04/2019 at 22:49:57
Mike#58
I'm afraid I agree with you. I had a sneaky feeling they'd drop points tonight, now I have a bad feeling for the season.
Didn't see the game due to being in work. Was it offside? Will their luck never end? Are they the biggest shower of tw#ts in football?
I know the answer to at least one of them questions.
Mike Jones
60 Posted 05/04/2019 at 22:59:08
Hi Mike. I never watched. Just put Sky on about 20 to 10. I was hoping for a draw or defeat.

I still think City are a class above everyone else, I just think they'll be knackered. And 4 trophies is too big a step.

It's the fact I live in the city with blue and red and yet every red I meet seems a shit. No genuine contact from any of them. The bizarre thing is I married a red, and yet all her family reinforce the arrogance. Thank god my son decided to be blue.

If these shite win the league every thick cunt who lives in your street will become an expert. Trust me, you don't want to read the story on the BBC webpage today. The RS who says that, if they win the league, the experience will be like nothing anyone has ever known in their life before! What the fuck!

Mike Galley
61 Posted 05/04/2019 at 23:12:03
Mike
I too live in the city, well almost, I'm in Kirkby. Believe me, I know where your coming from with them!
I've read the BBC article today and made a point of showing it to the Man City/United lads in work. We all agreed that it's a load of sh#te.
Anyway, I agree with you with regards to them and City but if one team can fluke a title it's them. I still have nightmares of the '86 season!
Rob Halligan
62 Posted 05/04/2019 at 23:12:41
I've been out tonight with a mate who's a red. I asked him how much he despises man utd? "Like nothing else", was his reply. "Ah good", I said, " then "you'll be hoping that man city beat them in a couple of weeks time". His reply, "No comment"

I never thought I'd see the day when the fucking shite will be cheering on man Utd. Shower of two faced twats.

Though I suppose if it were us wanting the RS to win a game to aid us, for whatever reason, would we want them to win? I guess we would.

Sigh!!!

Mike Jones
63 Posted 05/04/2019 at 23:18:36
I hate them all with a passion. I have been friends with reds and blues throughout my 50 years... but the Reds always seemed patronising, like as if they were better individuals; even if we were all equals in life.

I admit we aren't great as a team – bar ‘85 and ‘87 – in my lifetime (I'm 70, just) but I'd rather chat to a Blue I don't know than a red I'm ‘aware of'. Fuck them all. Horrible bunch of cunts. It's why I despise them so much

Anthony Murphy
64 Posted 05/04/2019 at 23:23:48
Mike, I’ve had no doubt since last summer that they will win the league this season. They’ve been saying ‘this is our year’ almost every year for as long as I can be arsed remembering but unfortunately this will be their season. We need to get used to it and get it out the way.
Rob Halligan
65 Posted 05/04/2019 at 23:26:58
Mike, forget the fact that United have 13 premier league titles. Forget that Arsenal have won a few, once when going an entire season unbeaten. Forget what Chelsea or man city have done. You can even forget the biggest achievement of all, Leicester winning the premier league.

Should them bastards win it, then it will be the biggest and best title victory of all time. The press, both local and national will be creaming themselves like never before. Nothing will ever beat it.

You are right though. They are the most obnoxious bunch of twats ever to walk this earth.

Mike Jones
66 Posted 05/04/2019 at 23:35:54
Rob I work with some of them and none of them can name a player beyond Salah... reminds me of Suarez... they aren't real supporters or fans.

It's embarrassing for them but doesn't stop me being fucking annoyed. I shouldn't let them get to me...

Mike Galley
67 Posted 05/04/2019 at 23:49:57
If I'm honest, I've couple of red mates that are season ticket holders and go to a lot of away games as well. I can have a conversation about football with these, and whilst I don't always agree with them, I can usually see where there coming from with their point of view. I guess they'd say the same about me.
The ones who burn my head are the alehouse Reds. We all know them. They're the mouthy ones in the pub, usually with comments along the lines of 'Stevie G' 'Carra' 'Five times' etc.
I'm sure I've been to Analfield more times than some of these.
Simon Smith
68 Posted 05/04/2019 at 23:57:51
Haven't read all the comments but really really please with Richalison and his social media comments, nothing worse than when a player talks up your rivals and says it's flattering etc.

Well in Richalison 👍

Paul Birmingham
69 Posted 06/04/2019 at 02:30:55
Lets see what happens. It will happen and Old Nicks Team, will soon loose.

It’s Witch Craft to a level, not seen, but the RS, will loose, and soon.

La Vie Cest La Vie.

Onwards EFC.

Paul Birmingham
70 Posted 06/04/2019 at 02:38:41
Show the Colours and keep the Bastions of Hope, and Everton spirit going, as those RS, won’t win the league this year.

It won’t happen, the best team wins, not Old Nicks Team. They are at their mental and squad level limits. Tonight it showed.

A good few weeks, we pray, will pass. It will be done and City win, and just fully so.

Say no more, than the curse of a life time, them RS.

Stan Schofield
71 Posted 06/04/2019 at 11:25:14
Reds I know are mainly what I would call 'true reds', supporters like 'true Evertonians'. I also know a few bullsitter reds, who don't even know their own history let alone Everton's history. If you avoid or ignore the bullshitter reds, it's just like avoiding or ignoring bullshitters generally, and it makes life easier. You can engage with 'true reds' in a civilised way. When Fred Pickering died recently, a true red messaged me to say what a shame it was and what a good player he was, and I did likewise when Peter Thompson (the reds winger from the 60s) died.

For true reds, I have no problem if Liverpool win a trophy or two, because those reds deserve it, having been frustrated like us. But for the bullshitter reds, it's not an issue, because of avoiding or ignoring them. Horses for courses. And if Liverpool do win the league, well it's about time given what they've spent on players compared to us.

Some on here might tell me that times have changed and it's difficult to engage with reds. Well times have changed, and Liverpool's past successes and media attention have arguably produced a lot of bullshitter reds. But as in life generally where it's better to focus on 'real people' than on bullshitters, no matter how times have changed there will always be that core of true reds, just like a core of true Evertonians. When we become successful again, make no mistake, there will be an influx of bullshitter Evertonians jumping on the blue bandwagon, but not having a real clue about Everton.

Kevin Molloy
73 Posted 06/04/2019 at 12:56:52
I actually want Liverpool to win this season. Not a popular opinion on here, I know, but maybe it's because I don't live in the city any more.

But I am sick of seeing Manchester hoover up everything. That burns me much more than bias against Liverpool. And let's face it, it's been 30 years... and they have been terrific this season.

Brian Wilkinson
74 Posted 06/04/2019 at 14:03:00
Andrew@7, you are spot on about the London based media.

Like me you have picked up on whenever Everton start showing form, or play the so called big six, they start of with one player, then another, so far this week, it has been Richy, then Gomes, will not be long before Gaye pops up again about a move.

All media rubbish which I have long since taken with a pinch of salt.

Funny how not one single Reds player has come up about a move, in the run up to their title challenge, not one.

Brian Wilkinson
75 Posted 06/04/2019 at 14:06:25
have you been naughty again Kevin and for your punishment you have to tip our neighbours.

Get a grip mate and man up.

Stan Schofield
76 Posted 06/04/2019 at 14:15:04
Kevin@74: Although I would make a distinction between 'real reds' and 'bullshitter reds', with real reds deserving success like we deserve success, second only to us winning games is watching Liverpool losing them. I would never want them to win anything, but don't have a problem if they do, because I can avoid the bullshit of the media and those reds who are bullshitters. Watching them be outplayed by Real Madrid last year, and make cock-ups in the process, was a real pleasure.

I don't live in Liverpool now, but did do for many years and grew up there, living near both grounds, and it's just very hard going out and witnessing some reds celebrating when they win, especially the bullshit variety. Some of them don't know how to win or lose graciously.

Brian Williams
77 Posted 06/04/2019 at 14:16:44
You still live on planet earth though, Kevin.... right?
Kevin Molloy
78 Posted 06/04/2019 at 14:28:21
Brian Ha Ha, yes I'm still here.

Don't get me wrong, nobody enjoys a Liverpool comedy pratfall more than me, but cheer on that tin pot little Manchester team to another oil slick championship win, no thanks.

If Liverpool win this season, it would make one half of the city extremely, blissfully happy. I don't begrudge them that, they are all scousers at the end of the day. I enjoy the rivalry, and have never hated them (how can anyone hate them who comes from the city? – it's bonkers).

I also think Liverpool, whilst obviously having much more dosh than us, have had a rough time: HIllsborough was a living nightmare... Why shouldn't they get a bit of what Manchester has been drinking for the last 25 years???

Brian Williams
79 Posted 06/04/2019 at 18:46:27
How long is it since you lived here, Kevin?
Kevin Molloy
81 Posted 06/04/2019 at 20:40:28
Since last time they won it, actually...
John McFarlane Snr
83 Posted 06/04/2019 at 21:21:57
Hi Stan [77] I too live outside Liverpool, in Skelmersdale, and have done for the last 52 years, in my childhood I lived on Everton Road, until 1950 when my mother died. My Grandma then cared for me, and my brother and two sisters, we then lived in Argyle Road Anfield, and like you I was a close to both grounds, five minute to Anfield and ten minutes to Goodison.

I consider myself to be a fair-minded individual, but I'm afraid that my tolerance doesn't stretch to Liverpool winning games, let alone trophies. Most of the so-called Liverpool fans I know in Skem would require an A to Z to find their way to Anfield, and I remind them of this every time I have the misfortune to encounter them.

I

Brian Williams
84 Posted 06/04/2019 at 21:23:18
And where you are now, Kevin. Do they let you outside at all?
John Keating
85 Posted 06/04/2019 at 22:23:42
Kevin,

If you went to confession, you'd be saying "Hail Mary"s for the next 50 years...

Brian Wilkinson
88 Posted 07/04/2019 at 00:30:49
only 50 John.
Mark Andersson
89 Posted 07/04/2019 at 01:35:00
I condider myself a fair and rational man... saying that I have a enate dislike of Liverpool FC...

Like otger bluse I get as pleasure from the red shite loosing a game as I do us winng one..

Slippy G was pure karma...

If Liverpool do win the title thus year I feel that they will have paid back all their karmic deubt and thats a scary thought..

Everton must have done sone really shady shit to have had accumulated so much bad karma...

Maybe thats why EITC are working so hard to pay off that
Debut.

But my other theory is you attract what you fear. Collectively blues fans seem to be more a glass half empty than half full...

In other words we have spent the last 30 years living in hope while walliwing in self pity...

If collectively we change our attitude to be more positive in supporting our club then maybe our fortunes will change for the better not the bitter...

Mike Jones
90 Posted 07/04/2019 at 01:55:54
Anyone on here who says they don’t mind Liverpool winning the league can fuckoff as far as I’m concerned. Their fans don’t give a fuck about us unless it’s to patronise and yet we all live and work in the same space as them. They are no better than you or I, in fact the majority of them are best worth avoiding. Even their ‘famous’ fans are best avoided by normal people John Aldridge or Sue Johnston anyone? I could name more. And that so called comedian who was going to twat Ramos all over Twitter he ruined Peep Show for me the shitty fucker. I’m praying Man City won the league and yes, I’ll be gutted if they don’t
Stan Schofield
91 Posted 07/04/2019 at 12:51:29
John@83: I lived for 9 years on Robson St, between Venice and Vienna Streets, not far from the Kop on Walton Breck Road, so it was closer to Anfield than Goodison. There was a pub on the corner of Vienna St., which I think must have been a red pub judging by the noise from there until the small hours when Liverpool won anything. The worst occasion was in 1977 after the European Cup Final, and I didn't want to venture out for a few days. My red mates were always sporting, and remain so, but some other reds were just a complete pain in the backside that made going out unpleasant.
Brian Wilkinson
92 Posted 07/04/2019 at 12:57:07
That’s the spirit Mike@90, must have a pint sometime at Goodison, man with the same principles as me.

How anyone can want a team who’s Emlyn Hughes took great pleasure taking the piss out of the Everton fans who turned up in the City to welcome them back, the shameless Coleman leg break song, the Steau Bucharest 86 with a European cup on banner at Anfield.

Avoiding true facts and turning it round by throwing bitters back at us.

Now we have Charlie Nicholas ex gunners player coming out with I think Silva will be sacked end of season, just before we play his ex club.

Like I have said in previous post, name one player from our neighbours who has been mentioned by the media about another team wanting one of their players, not a single one while they are in the title race.

Stan Schofield
93 Posted 07/04/2019 at 13:25:33
Brian, regarding repugnant reds, one or two were going on at me a couple of years ago, saying that Everton should support boycotting the Sun. My reply was simple:

The Sun is part of the Murdoch empire, and it's that empire that is the root cause of the shite pumped out by their rags. I will support a boycott of the Sun provided it is part of a bigger boycott of the entire Murdoch empire, with that bigger boycott requiring people to cancel their Sky subscriptions and reds to pressure LFC to have nothing whatsoever to do with Sky.

They didn't really know what to say to that, apart from "don't be ridiculous, Sky provides money for the Premier League". I just said, oh, I see, your moral principle is subject to financial convenience. Nice.

There's always a way to shut them up.

Ian Flanagan
94 Posted 09/04/2019 at 13:56:12
Interesting Fact: Liverpool's attendance is about 53,000 of these approximately 3,000 of these are away supporters. That means of the other 50,000 only 25,000 actually support Liverpool as the other 25,000 are the carers
Jay Harris
95 Posted 09/04/2019 at 14:23:15
I think a large part of our resentment is they get everything given to them and expect it, be it dodgy penalties, dubious offside decisions, red and yellow cards for their opposition and the media glorifying them.

Every game of theirs thats televised is sure to include 3 minutes of "you'll never walk alone".

What other team has their anthem highlighted on TV every game.

Of course more than anything they take delight in spoiling any chance of success we have including the European ban due to their thuggery.

Detest them is putting it mildly.

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